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Yury Krupnov: “Russia needs seven revolutions”

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Yury Krupnov: “Russia needs seven revolutions”In the current era of the ideological timelessness of citizens, only a negative agenda unites


Russia is a rich country, even excessively. A huge territory with huge reserves of raw materials, bringing huge profits to the huge (for the current economic situation) number of money bags. And, of course, our land is rich in talents, heroes, and art. That's just the ideology did not work out. As such, it does not exist - not only from a formal point of view, according to the article of the Constitution, but in fact. Where are these “clamps” that were suddenly spoken about at the top? What do they look like?

Research and just statements on this topic, including statements from the brilliant mouths - not to count. But what's the point? The authors of the next “ideological” research conducted at the Higher School of Economics, even in the title of the work, did not indulge in allegories and called it sharply: “Russian ideological timelessness in the mirror of social media”. That's right - "timelessness."

And really, what time do we live? What a capacious wording it will be indicated in future textbooks stories? What is the century now? Nanotechnology, with the half-dead Skolkovo and the “effective” Rosnano? We would have time to get into our new technological order with our exclusively raw-material economy, the real diversification of which is taking place so far in the Plans and Concepts ...

But on social networks, modern ideology (or rather, its amorphousness) is reflected extremely accurately. This is the insistence of the authors of the work from the HSE under the direction of Emil Payn. The professor himself and the doctor of political sciences in an interview to Ogonyk explained the representativeness of this research technique. “Today, when Internet users in Russia accounted for more than 51% of the adult population, and by the amount of time spent on social networks, our fellow citizens were among the world leaders, it became possible to analyze not just momentary assessments of respondents, but stable ideological associations with a specific identity and in a special language, ”said Mr. Pain.

The Internet did not open to the American political scientist: he showed no signs of a common ideology in society, but four groups stood out confidently and completely vividly: pro-government, "left", nationalist and liberal. The watersheds between them lie so clearly that it seems to look for a common denominator here - an unpromising occupation. But not everything is so simple. There are at least two topics that unite "zaputintsy" with "internal immigrants", and those and others - with their "executioners" on the right and left. This, says the head of the study, is a certain general skepticism in views on the development of the country, which does not bypass even the supporters of the current government. "This is the most important sign of timelessness: the present is ugly, and the future is unpromising," the expert noted.

Another “rallying” theme is xenophobia. “Islamophobia, Kavkazofobiya, migrant-phobia are common even among liberals, and in other trends they are even stronger,” complained Emil Pain to the publication. Such a basis, according to the scientist, can be the key to the emergence of the leading group of "ideological mutants" who will lead the ideology, mixed with xenophobic nationalism and left-wing social populism, into the vanguard. But the liberals, as Mr. Payne actually stated, remain outsiders among the above-mentioned groups: “We suppose they (liberals. - Note KM.RU) have done a lot to instill in the majority of the population a holy hatred of“ the party of crooks and thieves ” . But the list of millionaire ministers, described as “supporters of economic liberalism,” is published, and then a post appears on the Internet: “Liberativists have settled down well: they steal themselves, and they dump Putin on them”. There is no trust. ” It is strange that the researcher did not make a reservation about the ambiguous positioning of the author himself, whom he cited as an example of a “obzyvalki”. Alexei Navalny only liberals can not recognize their own. Valeria Ilinichna, for example, is exactly against.

In principle, the one who seeks will always find, and the “idea of ​​the beautiful” that unites one and all can be found today. The only question is whether everything can be called ideology. For example, the same ideas about social justice that divide and defend (let each with its own connotation) all groups. But this is the situation of ideological stagnation: they have grown to the realization of the value of social justice, but not to socialism. And this is just one example of a superficial attitude to fundamental issues living in civil consciousness. A couple of decades of “timelessness” makes itself felt.

A famous publicist, chairman of the supervisory board of the Institute of Demography, Migration and Regional Development Yuri Krupnov suggested his own version of the “roadmap” of finding a nationwide ideology in an interview with a columnist for KM.RU

- The fact that the Higher School of Economics presented is, if it is possible to say so, the sociology of the decay, downward, degradation trend. It is expressed in the very presence of this clear division of society into these four groups escaping from the sinking "Titanic". They must be redeveloped for the development of the country. On their basis, a qualitatively new social configuration should emerge, governed by the ideology of planetary development. Without it, Russia simply has no prospects, no future.

On the territory of Russia, a source should be created for generating social wealth of a global scale, quite comparable with the entire world economy. This is achievable through seven creative revolutions - demographic, industrial-technological, energy, urban planning, anthropological, Far Eastern and post-Soviet integration (the final formation of the Eurasian Union).

It is necessary to discuss the implementation of these seven revolutions, to discuss the order of the hundreds of country development projects currently available and about a thousand strategic investment projects that will raise every municipal unit of Russia. This is the very agenda of the planetary development of Russia, which will set the possibility for the country to enter a positive, anti-decay, anti-degradation course and the creation of a new ideology - the ideology of development.

- Excellent prospects, but who will do all this?

- We have wonderful young people, primarily in the regions, which have already mastered and continue to gain unique experience based on Soviet (by inertia), Western and modern Russian sources. These young people today create a certain pressure on the authorities. In the “crooked” form, this is so far expressed in various kinds of “swamp” protests, where the tone is set by the so-called “creative class”, which in fact is partly parasitic. But the very pressure of young people on power is the same as a request for development! And then the whole thing is in the government itself.

And, as I see it, Vladimir Putin is gradually beginning to understand this, which can be judged by his pressure on the government, by the singer’s resignation of degradation and the collapse of the country, Vladislav Surkov. Yes, we are slowly getting out to a new road, but we must also be aware that only mild criticism of the government will not be enough here.
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  1. fenix57
    fenix57 16 May 2013 06: 47
    12
    Hello! "... But really, what time are we living in .."- and again set the teeth on edge, - "we. live in times of change." Again, again, "peace to huts, war to palaces!?" - at that time There was a sea of ​​blood ...!
    Stifle the "information raid" from the West and begin gaining "love for the motherland" from kindergartens. No other way..
    1. domokl
      domokl 16 May 2013 07: 53
      12
      Quote: fenix57
      Suppress the "information raid" from the West and begin to acquire "love for the motherland" from kindergartens. No other way.
      good Yes, it’s raided only to Moscow. Such nonsense doesn’t work in the regions. Just because a Siberian boy can and cannot beautifully, in modern times, say why he loves his homeland, but he’ll fill his face with dirt for the country.
      No matter how we cried about the fall of patriotism and other negatives, however, it was our children who fought in the 08 year, destroy bandits in the Caucasus, cruise at the sight of the West on ships in the Mediterranean ..
      1. patline
        patline 16 May 2013 08: 20
        +8
        And again, the revolution? !!! All is enough, not a third or a fifth, no. With revolutions, we have too much and they did not bring anything good.
        It's time to throw the slogan to the masses: Not revolution, but Evolution !!!
        But where the revolution is needed, it’s in the USA, it’s time for them to throw the Fed away from their shoulders.
        1. S_mirnov
          S_mirnov 16 May 2013 08: 53
          10
          "And again the revolution? !!! That's enough, neither the third nor the fifth, none." - but he will not give up the power to the crooks! They can't, they have blood on their hands. They have only one road now. If you do not want change, continue to decompose steadily.
          “We have wonderful youth, first of all in the regions” - wonderful youth are brought up on an integral system of moral principles (they were in the USSR) - on fragmentary fragments of this system smeared with capitalist “values” - you cannot grow up “excellent” youth!
        2. Kaa
          Kaa 16 May 2013 09: 01
          +5
          Quote: patline
          But where the revolution is needed, it’s in the USA, it’s time for them to throw the Fed away from their shoulders
          This revolution is needed not only for the Americans, but first of all for the whole world, including for us, and it makes the 7 revolutions proposed by the author unnecessary. If countries stop paying tribute using the dollar in mutual settlements, then the author's thesis will be fulfilled: "On the territory of Russia, a source of generating social wealth of a planetary scale, quite comparable with the entire world economy, should be created."With a FAIR price of resources, without reserving funds in Treasuries and artificial support for the dollar, more funds are accumulated within the country - people have conditions for a natural, evolutionary improvement in demography, sufficient funds appear for science and the development of new technologies, urban planning, the development of Siberia and the Far East Therefore, I propose to limit ourselves to TWO revolutions - the anti-dollar one and the removal from power of the DOLLAR-INTERESTED Russian pseudo-elites - but they will self-destruct when they are removed from power, and when the dollar collapses, their state and influence on the formation of foreign and domestic policy will be "zeroed".
          1. S_mirnov
            S_mirnov 16 May 2013 10: 22
            +1
            "and makes unnecessary 7 revolutions proposed by the author" How great it turns out! We don't need to do anything !!! fellow We stock up on popokormu and wait for the start of a revolution in the USA !!! laughing
            1. S_mirnov
              S_mirnov 16 May 2013 10: 27
              +4
              There has been so little good news lately! I found it, I decided to share it!
              “As local residents told Novy Region, the incident took place on the night of May 11-12. Several vacationers from Russia came to the half-empty Emran bar and ordered a bottle of whiskey. At the same time, they first had to refuse the waiter’s insistent offers to buy drugs or order girls, and then demand from him to replace the bottle of obviously "burned" alcohol. Instead of the retired waiter, the owner of the illegally built bar, Server Emirov, came accompanied by friends, who, when he was a member of the local ethnic organized criminal group, received the nickname "Volcano" for his explosive character. demanded from the guests of the establishment to pay the bill and get out, and, having received a refusal, began to threaten with a traumatic pistol.However, as a result of the ensuing scuffle, one of the guests took the pistol and shot the fleeing Emirov in the ass.
              NR2.ru: http://www.nr2.ru/crimea/438353.html
              "
              1. Egoza
                Egoza 16 May 2013 10: 43
                +1
                Quote: S_mirnov
                as a result of a brawl ensued, one of the vacationers took a gun and shot in the ass of the runaway Emirov.


                Did you get it? laughing
                1. Gecko
                  Gecko 16 May 2013 10: 49
                  +2
                  got a rubber bullet in the buttock fired from his own pistol
                  1. Hudo
                    Hudo 16 May 2013 13: 02
                    +2
                    Quote: gecko
                    the owner of the illegally built bar, Server of Emirs, when he was a member of a local ethnic organized crime group who received the nickname "Volcano" for its explosive nature

                    Hollow The vent, this "volcano" was turned by a bullet, now it will have another nickname - "Leaky". negative
        3. alex13-61
          alex13-61 16 May 2013 10: 40
          0
          Quote: patline
          But where the revolution is needed, it’s in the USA, it’s time for them to throw the Fed away from their shoulders.

          And not only from their own.
    2. radio operator
      radio operator 16 May 2013 17: 04
      +1

      That is what the revolution in Russia led to.
      Debauchery, abortion, demographic pit and other liberal delights.
      Nightmare. Frost on the skin.
  2. Vladimirets
    Vladimirets 16 May 2013 06: 47
    +6
    Indeed, "They need great shocks, we need a great Russia" (Stolypin).
    1. Bykov.
      Bykov. 16 May 2013 07: 05
      +1
      Quote: Vladimirets
      ... Indeed, "They need great shocks, we need a great Russia" ... (Stolypin).

      And this one, you * s, under the "roof" of the Higher School of Economics, calls for an ax, for riots, for instability, for the shattering of social peace and tranquility in Russia, without any consequences for itself ...
      1. Aristarch
        Aristarch 16 May 2013 09: 12
        +2
        I agree with you, apparently the work has not been completed (revolution), and so in the form of development it can take place)))
    2. Gari
      Gari 16 May 2013 07: 07
      +3
      This is achievable through seven creative revolutions - demographic, industrial, technological, energy, urban planning, anthropological, Far Eastern and post-Soviet integration (the final formation of the Eurasian Union).

      Maybe enough of these revolutions

      Quote: Vladimirets
      Indeed, "They need great shocks, we need a great Russia" (Stolypin).
      1. Bykov.
        Bykov. 16 May 2013 07: 19
        +3
        Quote: Gari
        ... Maybe enough of these revolutions? ...

        You and I, of course, will be enough, but to them, these professors from high economy, upheaval and revolution, in Russia, oh, how they need to, with the state and its institutions of power weakened in them, to indulge in power and unhindered, in the vast expanses of our Motherland and catch a fish, muddy with blood, some water.
        1. alexng
          alexng 16 May 2013 08: 32
          +2
          The jackals above behave the same way, but they behave as if they, having come to power, will be there all their life. And some of the authorities also think that they will be in power until the end of their days and do not think about the consequences after leaving the trough. But in vain. Then they go, after absence and a bowl, into the "non-systemic" opposition and thus further deepen their fate, ie. Once in a quagmire, the more you move, the more you are sucked into the abyss.
          It is better to live in a regime of self-sufficiency and build your life yourself, without interfering with the lives of others.
    3. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 16 May 2013 07: 10
      +6
      Quote: Vladimirets
      Indeed, "They need great shocks, we need a great Russia" (Stolypin).

      I’m curious now, are there people on our site who voted in the Duma elections for this scum? If so, why. Maybe they wanted a change wink so you get them, you still want to see a little blood.

      Ilya Ponomarev from Fair Russia, grantee-belolent, called for the creation of combat units for the war on the street.

      This initiative was joyfully supported by nationalists. In particular, the leader of the “Russians” movement, Alexander Belov, offers to prepare for total destabilization in the country: “I believe that we need to study the experience of Egypt and Libya,” this comrade said ...

      Thus, the Fifth Column of the State Department renounces its recent words about an evolutionary, peaceful and legal change of power, and actually proceeds to hostilities against the multinational people of Russia (on the US side). Apparently, the military detachment will be a group of trained provocateurs (possibly armed) who will arrange skirmishes with the police and with citizens who have a different political position.
      http://warfiles.ru/show-30990-ilya-ponomarev-prizval-oppoziciyu-k-voyne-s-rossiy
      skim-narodom.html
      All the garbage gathered in Fair Russia, AU and who voted for it? For Mironov Judah, where are you all, show the face of a please, although you should say a little plizzz
      1. Garrin
        Garrin 16 May 2013 08: 30
        +8
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        Ilya Ponomarev from Fair Russia, grantee-belolent, called for the creation of combat units for the war on the street.

        But for this, I would "close" it.
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 16 May 2013 10: 22
          +5
          Quote: Garrin

          But for this, I would "close" it.

          He has immunity hi and to hell with him what you do. Maybe such actions will convince Putin that it is time to cancel it. I got it already am
          AU who voted for Mironov, where are you, that hid angry
      2. botur
        botur 16 May 2013 10: 21
        +2
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        In particular, the leader of the “Russians” movement, Alexander Belov, offers to prepare for total destabilization in the country: “I believe that we need to study the experience of Egypt and Libya,” this comrade said ...

        I wonder why this artist still does not study the experience of Egypt and Libya somewhere near the bucket.
      3. radio operator
        radio operator 16 May 2013 17: 13
        +1
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        Ilya Ponomarev from Fair Russia, grantee-belolent, called for the creation of combat units for the war on the street.

        His indignation has no limit! negative The feeder is closed! Alas, "foreign countries will help us" will no longer work. NGOs have gone through, where can the poor oppositionist go now?
        There is only one way out - to go to work. They say that occupational therapy helps a lot.
      4. Denis
        Denis 17 May 2013 09: 07
        +1
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        Ilya Ponomarev from Fair Russia, grantee-belolentochnik, called for the creation of combat units for the war on the street
        And this provocateur himself will go to the streets or, as always, will sit out in the rear?
        There have already been such rEvolutionaries, one lover of blacks what Lamonov was worth and where he is now
  3. taseka
    taseka 16 May 2013 06: 48
    +2
    "sociology of a decaying, downward, degrading trend. "- Don't be afraid! While we all love our parents and children, our birch and the silence on a fishing trip - we love our Motherland and everyone who comes to us with a sword will die from our club !!!
    Just no trends !!!
  4. Denis
    Denis 16 May 2013 06: 52
    +4
    Maybe enough?
    Let them live in an era of change, there is such a Chinese curse
  5. aszzz888
    aszzz888 16 May 2013 06: 54
    +1
    Quote: fenix57
    Hello! "... But really, what time are we living in .."- and again set the teeth on edge, - "we. live in times of change." Again, again, "peace to huts, war to palaces!?" - at that time There was a sea of ​​blood ...!
    Stifle the "information raid" from the West and begin gaining "love for the motherland" from kindergartens. No other way..


    Well, let's generally turn to the "west". We will look into the mouths of these ideologues and dance to their direction.

    Somehow I don’t want such a scenario ...
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 16 May 2013 07: 12
      +4
      Quote: aszzz888
      Somehow I don’t want such a scenario ...

      You don’t want, we don’t want, but those who went to the square with white ribbons, so they want freedom, democracy and hell knows what. Office plagton misses at work, life is boring and they want to bring diversity to life.
      1. aszzz888
        aszzz888 16 May 2013 07: 20
        +3
        I suggest finding this "plankton" with a swampy shade a different variety. The geography of our country is very rich and diverse.
        It is very beautiful in the winter in the taiga. Forest, trees. Perfectly lifts the mood landscapes of Magadan.
        I think you understand me. Thanks in advance.
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 16 May 2013 07: 32
          +3
          Quote: aszzz888
          I think you understand me

          I understand you, but I'm not Putin hi
  6. isp96
    isp96 16 May 2013 06: 54
    +1
    One-prescription concept for 1000 years, everything worked. This is the Orthodox Church and religious tolerance! Sim triumph! And there are no revolutions. There is nothing new in the world.
    1. SCS
      SCS 16 May 2013 07: 43
      +1
      Quote: Isr96
      One-prescription concept for 1000 years, everything worked. This is the Orthodox Church and religious tolerance! Sim triumph! And there are no revolutions. There is nothing new in the world.

      no doubt faith must be! but live the country according to this recipe, which is 1000 years old, in the 20th century, still plowing horses and bulls!
      all talk about new technology is just talk! because first you need production that would need them (technology)! and sucking out these latest technologies from your finger is a waste of time and money!
      you need to cost new enterprises, power plants, develop your own agricultural, and not buy products over the hill just because it is cheaper! selling over the hill is not raw materials, but the final product! and around this all, roads, villages, cities will grow! this will be our new industrialization! on what we now have left, it will not work to rush into the future!
      and of course, all this should be erected not by private organizations, which in all will seek only profit, but by state offices!
      we must be an example to others!
    2. radio operator
      radio operator 16 May 2013 17: 19
      0
      Quote: Isr96
      concept one-recipe 1000 years, everything worked. This is the Orthodox Church

      Yes. And it’s very good that GDP understands this.
      Slowly going to this.
  7. Bykov.
    Bykov. 16 May 2013 06: 57
    +1
    ... the authors of the work from the HSE under the leadership of Emil Pain insist

    Another oracle-diviner, homegrown, again prophesies the death of us and our country, a researcher and economist. How many of you were, so smart with overseas diplomas, nastardamus. deaths promised us, and Russia will stand and melt, which, in fact, they, the jackals don’t like, they’re scribbling reports, doing damn research, monitoring ... DO NOT WAIT !!! Or, wait, a kick under your s * d.
  8. Vladomir
    Vladomir 16 May 2013 06: 57
    +1
    Without the ideology of Russian patriotism and self-sacrifice, all efforts to raise Russia will be unsuccessful.
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 16 May 2013 07: 13
      +4
      Quote: Vladomir
      Without the ideology of Russian patriotism

      Now more and more idiocy prevails hi
      1. ed1968
        ed1968 16 May 2013 16: 20
        +1
        do not understand Russia laughing
  9. Gari
    Gari 16 May 2013 07: 05
    +2
    Another rallying issue is xenophobia. “Islamophobia, Caucasian phobia, migrant phobia are even prevalent among liberals, and in other movements they are even stronger,” Emil Pain complained to the publication.
    - What the Higher School of Economics presented is, so to speak, the sociology of a decaying, bearish, degrading trend.
    And what else could you imagine - Emil Abramovich Pain - Russian political scientist and ethnographer
    1. Denis
      Denis 16 May 2013 07: 18
      +4
      Quote: Gari
      Another rallying topic is xenophobia
      Attention!
      BUT!:
    2. pensioner
      pensioner 16 May 2013 09: 43
      +3
      Quote: Gari
      Emil Abramovich Pain - Russian political scientist and ethnographer

      Oh well. And on an expedition, this ethnographer probably drives to Israel.
  10. Seraph
    Seraph 16 May 2013 07: 29
    0
    There is such a wonderful organization - "Izborsk club", there are not stupid people. It should be clarified that in terms of ideology they have developed
  11. vilenich
    vilenich 16 May 2013 07: 55
    +1
    It is necessary to discuss the implementation of these seven revolutions, to discuss about a hundred existing development projects for the country and about a thousand strategic investment projects that will raise each municipality in Russia.

    I read these empty words and for some reason I recall Yavlinsky's "saving" plan "500 days", the same irresponsible chatter!
  12. Volkhov
    Volkhov 16 May 2013 08: 18
    0
    The authorities are actively involved in all revolutions - they pass laws with heavy fines for smoking, parking, participating in rallies, trade and much more. This money is needed for militants in Syria, the army, special services. But in the implementation of these laws there will be conflicts with the police and 1/1000 will roughly go beyond the scope of the law and will be forced to hide, further the path to the partisans, therefore more money will be needed for cops to fight the people, more fines ... if the partisans suddenly get help - hello revolution.
  13. sergo0000
    sergo0000 16 May 2013 09: 00
    +4
    Again, revolutions and upheavals, from one century to the same. recourse In another way, evolutionarily and calmly working for the benefit of ourselves and the country, doing our own thing, improving ourselves and self-education, what doesn’t work out in Russia !?
    "The Russian people, who wished for a revolution and placed great hopes on it, believed that the monstrous images of Gogol's Russia would disappear when the revolutionary thunderstorm cleans us of all filth. In Khlestakov and Skvoznik-Dmukhanovsky, in Chichikov and Nozdrev, they saw exclusively images of old Russia, brought up by autocracy And serfdom. In the intolerable revolutionary vulgarity there is an eternal Gogol. Hopes were vain that the revolution would reveal the human image in Russia, that the human personality would rise to his full height after the fall of autocracy. Too much we are accustomed to attributing to autocracy, They wanted to explain all the evil and darkness of our life to them. But this only threw the Russian people off the burden of responsibility and accustomed themselves to irresponsibility. There is no longer autocracy, but Russian darkness and Russian evil remained. Darkness and evil are embedded deeper, not in the social shell of the people, but in its spiritual core.There is no longer the old autocracy, and autocracy still reigns in Russia, there is still no respect for a person, for human dignity, for human rights. There is no longer the old autocracy, the old bureaucracy, the old police, and the bribe is still the foundation of Russian life, its fundamental constitution. The bribe has blossomed more than ever. "

    It was written over a hundred years ago by the great Russian philosopher and historian N. Berdyaev. But it’s still relevant !!!
  14. Aristarch
    Aristarch 16 May 2013 09: 04
    +2
    Only now they forgot to mention all the social networks and media sown with anti-Russian propaganda and where there is complete discrimination against the authorities. This is after what our people have gone through, to demand more revolutions, are there really no synonyms, the word itself is already irritating. What a speech without ideological emptiness, if we are imposed (or) to be ashamed of their history in the West. If young people are zombified by the same social. networks and media, there is a strong substitution of concepts, cultural, historical. But history is what should unite us, in order to move on it is necessary to put things in order in these matters. For example, ask the bogies about their attitude to May 9, their attitude to the military-industrial complex, and much more - the answers will greatly disappoint you. Especially the interpretation "smiled", they say, the marsh masses thus simply require the development of the country)))) In what place may I ask, perhaps the answer lies in this quote; "... that just a mild criticism of the government will obviously not be enough here." - Here is the answer, otherwise they started talking about development.
  15. pensioner
    pensioner 16 May 2013 09: 38
    +2
    singer of the degradation and decay of the country Vladislav Surkov.

    What a fuck ... singer. I also have a button accordion. Ass trained.
  16. fenix57
    fenix57 16 May 2013 09: 53
    +1
    Quote: domokl
    No matter how we cried about the fall of patriotism and other negatives, however, it was our children who fought in the 08 year, destroy bandits in the Caucasus, cruise at the sight of the West on ships in the Mediterranean ..

    Admiral, calm down, panic ...., put aside ... hi drinks

    Quote: taseka
    sociology of a decaying, downward, degrading trend. "- Do not be afraid! While we all love our parents and children, our birch and silence while fishing - we love our Motherland
    AND YOU, ALLOW AND MORE ++++++++++++++++++++ drinks
  17. Opera
    Opera 16 May 2013 11: 10
    +7
    Quote: domokl
    Yes, it’s raided only to Moscow. Such nonsense doesn’t work in the regions. Just because a Siberian kid can and cannot beautifully say in modern times why he loves his homeland, but he’ll beat his face just for dirt on the country. No matter how we cried about the fall of patriotism and other negatives, however, it was our children who fought in 08, destroy bandits in the Caucasus, cruise under the Western gunship on ships in the Mediterranean ..

    Just do not again about Moscow !!! And in Moscow, for the dirt on the country’s face, they’ll stuff their faces so that they don’t seem enough! And about the Caucasus ... I work in a training and sports complex, we have a museum of military glory. During the Second World War, a military school was located in this building. Every year a concert is arranged for veterans, tables are laid. One of the stands is dedicated to modern graduates, two of whom died in Chechnya. The administration helps the families of heroes, this is exactly so. One of these guys who died was a machine gunner who was wounded more than once before the last bullet covered the retreat of his comrades ... Freshmen after presenting student IDs will be taken to a museum where they will be introduced to the exposition, they will talk about graduates who have given their debt to the homeland, and those who gave it to the end !
    You can talk and argue a lot about patriotic education ... You need to educate! We have good youth!
  18. aviamed90
    aviamed90 16 May 2013 11: 52
    +1
    "on the other hand, four groups have stood out confidently and quite clearly: pro-government," left ", nationalist and liberal"

    Strongly disagree! Everything is black and white again. Halftones are missing. It never happens in life! For example, I cannot attribute myself to any of the groups ...

    And about revolutions ... The author, apparently, does not understand that every revolution is blood and sacrifices. Thieves who have robbed the country just won't give up their loot. And without this basis, all attempts to get out of the quagmire are in vain. Although Putin is conducting them, at least not Putin. I think we must first try to resolve the issue peacefully. Although I myself foresee failure. Apparently without blood it will not work. But that's just the point, people don't want blood. And therefore, these revolutions are not relevant. There are reasons for them, but there are no performers! Here's a "squiggle"!

    You need to change the basis. And start over. It is necessary to start from revising the results of privatization. But when the people see that the thieves have been caught and punished, then we can talk about some kind of movement forward. The logic is simple: why should I hunchback on the "uncle-thief" and not on the state? Indeed, in the early 90s, we were all approximately at the same household level and had the same rights. Where did they get it all suddenly? Have they not climbed out of the face all their lives? And don't talk about the market! It's a bullshit! Every labor should be paid, but only theft makes it possible to get rich without labor.
  19. Egoza
    Egoza 16 May 2013 12: 02
    +2
    "We are looking at the unfinished work of Hegel" The Constitution of Germany ", written in 1802. The reason for its writing was the attacks of Frederick of Prussia on the first political scientist and PR technologist in the history of mankind. He was Nicolo Machiavelli. Hegel was deeply impressed by the work" Sovereign " which, by all accounts, was the best work of the Italian thinker. Germany was fragmented and in fact was in a state of complete state prostration. The idea of ​​a strong state as a guarantor of freedom and independence of citizens was very popular with Hegel. It was in this context that he considered the idea that the goal justifies means. "Gangrenous limbs cannot be treated with lavender water, life on the verge of decay can only be ended by violent means."
    Hegel set himself pragmatic tasks. He reflected on the establishment of a fair form of government and the role of morality in this process. Yes, when it comes to political struggle and the reunification of German lands, violence can and even should be used. Therefore, Hegel advocates for the "dominant hand of the conqueror" (die Gewalt eines Eroberters), who will unite Germany. And to whom is it necessary to use violence? To criminals attacking states. In this case, this is already a fair punishment. Both the death penalty and imprisonment are fully justified when it comes to the safety of the state structure. "(C)
    All the same, classics need to be re-read! You will find many useful things! And philosophers were more powerful in comparison with the current ones! hi
  20. astra
    astra 16 May 2013 12: 34
    +5
    I think we need to create a "filter" for candidates to the government, officials and other power structures. Give the task of the Academy of the Russian Academy of Sciences to develop a selection method with the inclusion of a lie detector, to check through this "filter" many structures under the supervision of the FSB. I think a lot of trash will be eliminated.
    In our city, police began to be taken to the police through a detector, so over time it became noticeably more.
  21. fzr1000
    fzr1000 16 May 2013 13: 07
    +3
    "On the territory of Russia, a source of generating social wealth of a planetary scale should be created, quite comparable to the entire world economy. This is achievable through seven creative revolutions - demographic, industrial-technological, energy, urban planning, anthropological, Far Eastern and post-Soviet integration (the final formation of the Eurasian Union ). " Krupnov.


    What are you all clinging to Krupnov? Because of the word revolution?
    Let's order.
    1. The demographic revolution. Need-no, but evolution (planned) would definitely not hurt.
    2. Do you need an industrial-technological revolution? FOR SIGNIFICANTLY. Call it evolution if you don't like the word revolution, but evolution must be fast in terms of time, otherwise you can be late.
    3. The energy and urban development revolution, see item 2.
    4. Anthropological revolution, honestly I do not know.
    5. Far Eastern revolution. If we mean by this the development of V. Siberia and the Far East, then see paragraph 2.
    6. Post-Soviet integration revolution. It’s not necessary, otherwise it’s possible to break firewood, not to draw those into the Union, but to scare those who are needed. Only evolution.

    Something like that.
  22. fenix57
    fenix57 16 May 2013 14: 10
    +3
    Quote: Alexander Romanov
    You don’t want, we don’t want, but those who went to the square with white ribbons, so they want freedom, democracy and hell knows what.

    They want one- destabilization in RUSSIA ..
    Quote: aszzz888
    I suggest finding this "plankton" with a swampy shade a different variety.

    Georgia is not included in the extradition treaty ...
  23. radio operator
    radio operator 16 May 2013 16: 55
    +1
    We must give a tough rebuff to these "creatures of vipers."
    Revolutions have never been of use to the people.