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Ruble during the Great Patriotic War

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Ruble during the Great Patriotic War

One of the lesser-known themes of World War II is the question of wages in the rear, the real value of the ruble in wartime. How much did citizens of the USSR receive in the prewar period and home front workers during the war years?


Chairman of the USSR State Planning Committee Nikolai Voznesensky in his work “The USSR Military Economy during the Patriotic War” noted that the average monthly salary of workers in the USSR Union industry (enterprises of union and republican subordination existed) increased from 375 rubles in 1940 to 573 rubles in 1944 (by 53%). And in the steel industry, it reached 697 rubles, and in the coal industry - 729 rubles. The salary of engineering and technical workers in the same period increased from 768 rubles to 1209 rubles. Moreover, in the steel industry it reached 1725 rubles, and in the coal industry - 1502 rubles. In the republican industry and agriculture revenues were lower.

The memoirs of veterans and contemporaries in general confirm the words of the head of the State Planning Commission. So, planer Jacob Roytman from 1936, he worked at the Odessa plant them. Lenin in the "closed" shop, which carried out defense orders, said that he received 720 rubles a month. According to him, this "amount seemed huge." Pyotr Butov, after training in the mining school, worked in the mine number 15-16 in Gukovo, a mechanic of an electric locomotive of trolleys. In 1939, I earned about 1 thousand rubles per month. And this despite the fact that "lunch at our miner's dining room cost 30 kopecks." Fedor Titov graduated from college in the 1936 year, receiving a specialty locksmith-train engine 3-th level. From the 3 rank before the war began, it grew to 6, earned about 500 rubles per month, so much then the best suit to order cost.

Mikhail Borisov, after completing their studies at the flying club, they wanted to leave the instructor. They offered 750 rubles, plus full provision - free food, free form. Claudia Deryabina (Ryzhkov) worked as an aero club instructor. Received 625 rubles. The instructors were fully provisioned - breakfast in the dining room, lunch and dinner brought to the airfield, lived in private apartments. Pavel Ankudinov reports that he received 100 rubles in the first year of study, and each new year a dozen were added. And as an instructor, he received 700 rubles, plus free good food and uniforms. "They lived well, this does not take away."

Pilot Sergey Gorelov becoming a sergeant received 440 rubles (lieutenant salary was 750 rubles). In this case, the sergeants lived in rooms for 3-4 people in each, but not in the barracks, had a complete allowance - food, form, travel. It is safe to say that the military and skilled workers were the elite of the country, this was reflected in their income. With the incomes of "collective farmers", agricultural workers, the situation was much worse. True, we must not forget that all the “roads”, social elevators before the youth were open, just learn.

Veniamin Lazarev recalled that in 1940 he worked at a logging site, where he was assigned to a collective farm, received 70-80 rubles a month. The quantity and quality of work of a collective farmer was estimated and taken into account by workdays (they were informally called chopsticks). In collective farms there were no salaries taken in industry, the entire income of an agricultural enterprise, after fulfilling its obligations to the state, was placed at the full disposal of the collective farm and collective farmers. Each collective farmer received his share in accordance with the worked up work days.

How much did prices rise during the war years?

It is clear that the war led to higher prices. Most of the industry was reoriented to military needs, the number of channels for the supply of goods from abroad has drastically reduced. However, the Soviet leadership as a whole managed to avoid serious fluctuations. Voznesensky noted that the index of retail government prices for rationed food and manufactured goods during the war economy period in the Soviet Union remained unchanged and in 1943 was 100,5% of the pre-war level. The only exceptions were alcoholic beverages and tobacco products, the prices of which were increased. It was a kind of indirect tax on that part of the population that actively bought these goods. As a result, the products that were sold on cards (standardized products) cost almost the same as before the war. In addition, the Soviet authorities managed to ensure more or less timely replenishment of the cards. There were no delays for boiling. But they could replace some products with others. According to Voznesensky, during the period of the military economy, the population that was on state food supply rose to 78,8 million. This is when the population of the USSR in non-occupied territories in 130 million people in 1942 year. Collective farmers no ration cards.

It is clear that on some cards it was very difficult to live. Some were helped by relatives from the village. The situation in the country was different, in some places in the village they lived on the verge of starvation, in others they could help relatives and acquaintances. Who had the opportunity, bought more products on the market. Voznesensky recognized that the situation on the free collective farm market was different, here the law of value acted in its market form of supply and demand. The price index increased to the 1943 year from the pre-war level: for crop products - by 12,6 times, for livestock products - by 13,2 times. It is clear that prices differed from time, terrain, ability to bargain. In particular, if on cards the bottle of vodka in Moscow 1942 cost 30 rubles, then on the market 400-500 rubles. A loaf of rye bread in the market cost 150-200 rubles.

Infantry officer Alexander Lebedintsev, talking about the meeting of the new year (1945 of the year) in Moscow. At that time, he received cash support for the post of regimental chief of staff, citing the following prices: a bottle of vodka or a loaf in 2 kg cost 300 rubles, a pack of “Kazbek” cigarettes - 75 rubles. This is in Moscow, in the countryside, the military bought and brew for 400 - 700 rubles. Writer Vsevolod Ivanov wrote down prices in the city of Gorky (Nizhny Novgorod) in the autumn of 1942 of the year: a glass of millet - 25 rubles, tobacco - 30-50 rubles, a liter of vodka - 450 rubles. I must say that in the memories of the products most often called bread and vodka. There is no need to talk about the significance of bread during the war years, and vodka traditionally played the role of not only the product of consumption, but also of the monetary unit.

Dmitry Vaulin, who served in the division of the bombers, which 9 on May 1945 produced an air salute, went to celebrate the Victory in the capital the next day with his comrades. In the restaurant "Moscow" they bought 4 bottles of vodka and 4 loaves of bread, all for 500 rubles. The monthly salary of Vaulina was 2,5 thousand rubles. One hundred grams of commercial vodka cost 40 rubles.

The availability of food by region differed seriously. If the villages of Ukraine, Belarus and Central Russia were in poverty and starving, then in Transcaucasia the standard of living practically did not change. The interpreter of Joseph Stalin, Valentin Berezhkov, getting to the Tehran Conference, was amazed at the food abundance in the Azerbaijani capital. In the restaurant it was possible to order kebabs, various snacks and other dishes from the voluminous menu without cards. The Maitre d'hote explained the reason for this abundance by the fact that transport difficulties do not allow food items to be taken out of Transcaucasia, they cannot be stored for a long time, therefore, in restaurants all are without cards. According to him, relatively inexpensive goods and the collective farm market. The population of the South Caucasus did not experience food shortages during the war. Perhaps this is exaggerated, but the fact remains that in Transcaucasia, the shortage of food products was less noticeable, and prices in the markets were lower than in other areas of the Soviet Union.

This is evidenced by other contemporaries. Tamara Bondarenko (Sladkova), her childhood was spent in Baku during the war years, recalls: “... I don’t remember the hungry time. Even sweets from Iran and American chocolate were given to us. ” Georgian writer N. Dumbadze in the novel “The Law of Eternity” described how, during the war years, the young man Bachany had lunch at the collective farm canteen, ordering only bread and cheese for 5 (!) Rubles. This surprised the waitress, not taking the usual for lunch time meat, wine and kharcho. The Russian villages in the military and post-war, recovery years did not even dream of such luxury. They dreamed of an extra piece of bread.

It must be said that the Soviet monetary system, despite the introduction of a rationing distribution system at the beginning of the war (introduced by other warring states) and significant inflation, showed high stability. In almost all areas, the ruble has retained its real purchasing power. The ruble has not turned into empty paper, like the “queens” of the Provisional Government or the Soviet “millions of“ lemons ”of the Civil War.

Ruble and other means of payment in the occupied territory

Surprisingly, in the territory occupied by German troops, the Soviet ruble retained its purchasing power. This can be explained by the fact that at first there was simply no other means of payment. The German authorities needed time to master the occupied territories, launch their currency into circulation, or create a new banknote. Therefore, initially they allowed the circulation of the Soviet ruble. Even the salaries of their accomplices were paid in rubles, taxes were calculated in them, which were taken from the population. After the battle of Moscow, when the German plan of the “blitzkrieg” was finally defeated and the Wehrmacht was thrown off from Moscow, there was hope that soon Soviet power would be restored throughout the USSR. The ruble has retained its position. Somewhat later, the German authorities began to take measures to limit the circulation of the ruble, but time was already lost.

Even before the attack on the USSR, the German military-political leadership planned to completely subordinate the Soviet economy to the interests of Germany. Among the measures to subjugate the economy of the USSR were the development of samples of special occupation money, which were supposed to oust the ruble. First of all, it concerned the Soviet Ukraine. Initially, the German authorities wanted to print banknotes with 1, 3 and 5 rubles; 1, 3, 5 and 10 chervonets. The bills were casually executed, primitive in design. They were going to place the Russian text on them: “Published on the basis of the regulation on the issuing bank. Kiev. 1941 year. Issuing Bank. On the back of each bill put the inscription: "Forgery of bank notes is punishable by hard labor." But this money was not approved. The higher authorities did not accept the fact that they had inscriptions in Russian. They were not going to leave anything Russian in the occupied territories.

As a result, for the captured territories of the USSR, it was decided to introduce occupational banknotes in karbovanets, where all the inscriptions will be in German. On banknotes from 1 to 500 karbovanets, there were different drawings. The happy faces of a boy, a girl, a peasant woman, a worker, a miner and a sailor were depicted. On each sign was the imperial seal of the Third Reich - an eagle holding a swastika in its claws. 4 July 1942 was issued by Erich Koch, the Reich Commissar of Ukraine, to conduct a monetary reform and completely withdraw rubles and chervonets, replacing them with Carbanians. Before 25 in July, the residents of Ukraine were ordered to exchange (hand over) the available Soviet money from 5 rubles and higher for Karbovanians. Dentes 1 and 3 of the ruble, as well as Soviet coins, were not withdrawn from circulation. The exchange took place at the rate of one ruble per karbovanets. However, it was agreed that the money will be withdrawn, if there is no evidence that they were acquired legally. This scared away many owners of large sums. In addition, no sums exceeding 200 rubles were issued, and special interest-free savings accounts were credited.

But this reform was not successful. This became especially clear after the Battle of Stalingrad, the German authorities were considered by many to be temporary. Carbovane's rate fell rapidly, and in the spring of 1944, there was a massive rejection of the population of the occupation money. In addition to karbovanets and Soviet rubles worth 1 and 3 rubles, coins in 1 - 20 kopecks, there were also occupation marks and German zinc and bronze coins in 1, 2, 5 and 10 pfennigs. The "canceled" Soviet rubles also went unofficially.



In order to rob the population, German troops received the so-called. imperial credit bank notes (“occupation marks”). Their exchange rate did not correspond to reality, and besides, the population had nothing to buy for them. Another means of plundering the population was to establish extremely low prices for agricultural products subject to mandatory surrender. At the same time, the occupation authorities used a shortage of essential goods from the population and sold them for inflated prices.

These types of robbery were supplemented by a whole system of taxes. In October 1941, the Commander-in-Chief of the Ground Forces signed the “Temporary Deal for Taxes and Fees”. This has become a heavy financial burden for the population in the occupied territory. The occupation authorities introduced various additional taxes. In some areas of the rear, the entire adult population was taxed "for security". In a number of places, the able-bodied population was subject to a head tax, special taxes were paid on doors, windows, “extra” furniture, etc.

For a more efficient use of the resources of the occupied territories, the German authorities, among other measures, resorted to the issuance of various kinds of surrogates of means of payment. In addition to the creation of an issuing bank in Ukraine, an Issuing Bank for Eastern Land was established under the Ostland Reich Commissariat (it included the Baltic States and Belarus). Special currency units for these territories were not issued, using the tickets of the General Directorate of the imperial credit cash desks of a single sample, i.e. the same occupation marks. At the same time, the army quartermaster service prepared special receipts for raw materials, for which goods could be purchased. In fact, such receipts had a more serious weight than other banknotes in circulation.

On the territory of the occupied regions of Northern Russia, part of the Leningrad and Pskov regions, as in other occupied territories, the Special Task Force “La” (Landwirtschaftlich, i.e. agriculture) on food and agriculture issues was formed. At the direction of this group, "Signs of the punctual value of spinning products" were made in Riga. The same issue was carried out in Belarus. In the Belarusian regions that were included in East Prussia - the Belostok region and parts of the Brest and Grodno regions, real German brands were used.

Ostland's currency legislation forced the population to hand over items made of precious metals and foreign currency. Violators were threatened with fines, confiscations and imprisonment.

Sources:
Berezhkov V.M. Pages of Diplomatic stories. M., 1987. // http://militera.lib.ru/memo/russian/berezhkov_vm2/index.html
Voznesensky N. The Soviet military economy during the Patriotic War. M., 1948 // http://militera.lib.ru/h/voznesensky_n/index.html
Internet site "I remember." Memories of war veterans // http://iremember.ru/
Kustov MV Price wins in rubles. M, 2010.
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  1. kind
    kind 14 May 2013 08: 10
    +5
    Interesting! To the author +!
    1. yak69
      yak69 14 May 2013 16: 13
      +7
      The author is not only ++++++++, but also just a big thank you!
      It is knowledge of the history of our country that makes us successors and successors of those traditions by which our valiant ancestors not only defended the state, but also elevated it to the rank of a great country.
      For more than 20 years the government has been "inventing the economic wheel", while the country's economy and industry are "getting better and better." Citizens of the country live more and more joyfully!
      The country's leadership can take a lot of useful things from what has been accumulated in the USSR, but for some reason it does not.
      Can someone explain why the authorities with enviable persistence refuse proven and working solutions?
      Why are the Japanese and Americans happy to take our Gosplan experience, and we are fleeing from it like leprosy ?!
      One hundred thousand why ..... but the answer is one.
      Or I'm wrong?..
    2. Gladiatir-zlo
      Gladiatir-zlo 19 May 2013 15: 42
      +1
      The availability of food by region differed seriously. If the villages of Ukraine, Belarus and Central Russia were in poverty and starving, then in Transcaucasia the standard of living practically did not change. The interpreter of Joseph Stalin, Valentin Berezhkov, getting to the Tehran Conference, was amazed at the food abundance in the Azerbaijani capital. In the restaurant it was possible to order kebabs, various snacks and other dishes from the voluminous menu without cards. The Maitre d'hote explained the reason for this abundance by the fact that transport difficulties do not allow food items to be taken out of Transcaucasia, they cannot be stored for a long time, therefore, in restaurants all are without cards. According to him, relatively inexpensive goods and the collective farm market. The population of the South Caucasus did not experience food shortages during the war. Perhaps this is exaggerated, but the fact remains that in Transcaucasia, the shortage of food products was less noticeable, and prices in the markets were lower than in other areas of the Soviet Union.

      yeah, the whole world dawdled famously, fraternal peoples.
  2. k220150
    k220150 14 May 2013 08: 19
    17
    There was the famous Stalinist People's Commissar of Finance Arseny Grigorievich Zverev (1900-1969), who can be safely considered one of the main Creators of the Victory. "Alternatively gifted" Khrushchev dismissed him before the reform of the 60th year. Now look at Kudrin and Siluanov, are there any questions? No questions!
    1. Egoza
      Egoza 14 May 2013 08: 38
      +9
      Quote: k220150
      Arseniy Zverev (1900-1969), the famous Stalin’s People’s Commissar of Finance, who can safely be considered one of the main Creators of the Victory, was dismissed by Khrushchev before the reform of the 60th year.


      It’s just amazing how with such a great practical experience it was possible in peacetime to pro-financially sustain the country! That is truly the ENEMIES of the PEOPLE!
    2. Uhe
      Uhe 14 May 2013 12: 41
      -4
      Kudrin and Siluanov are Witte in one person, that is, the one who sold Russia in the interests of a small stratum of crooks and foreign powers.

      At least Khrushchev did not sell his Motherland (forget about his bloodsucking at the end of the 30s and betrayal for a couple with Zhukov at the beginning of the war), and his stupid actions are just the actions of a small man who, by the will of fate, took a great place. It is only a pity that - worse than the enemy. And Kudrin is smart, but an enemy.
      1. washi
        washi 14 May 2013 16: 34
        +8
        Khrushchev destroyed collective farms, state farms and cooperatives, piecework premium system of financing enterprises and institutions. He ceased control of party members. Turned the party into an idol. He rejected the work of Stalin. Under Khrushchev, related party relations arose. etc. The end of the USSR was laid by Khrushchev - Former Trotskyist (in vain Stalin believed him and others)
    3. Proud.
      Proud. 14 May 2013 14: 15
      +6
      Quote: k220150
      "Alternatively gifted" Khrushchev dismissed him before the reform of the 60th year.

      I read something different. I quote: "... Finance Minister Arseny Grigorievich Zverev, disagreeing with the reform plan, resigned on May 16, 1960 from the post of head of the Ministry of Finance. He left immediately after May 4, 1960, the Kremlin signed Resolution No. 470 Of the Council of Ministers of the USSR "On changing the scale of prices and replacing current money with new money." This native of the village of Negodyaeva, Klinsky district, Moscow province could not help but understand what such a reform would lead to, and did not want to participate in this matter ... "
    4. luka095
      luka095 14 May 2013 22: 33
      0
      A. Zverev himself resigned, expressing disagreement with the Khrushchev monetary reform.
      People’s Commissar Zverev can be considered a financial genius. He provided finance for ALL projects (nuclear, missile and many others) that were in progress, kept the ruble from devaluing during the war ...
  3. Vladimirets
    Vladimirets 14 May 2013 08: 50
    -6
    The peasants alone, as serfs, worked for workdays both during the war and after it.
    1. anip
      anip 14 May 2013 12: 02
      +6
      Quote: Vladimirets
      The peasants alone, as serfs, worked for workdays both during the war and after it.

      Nonsense. Even in the article you can read:
      Quote: post
      The collective farms did not have the salaries accepted in industry, all the income of the agricultural enterprise, after fulfilling its obligations to the state, came at the full disposal of the collective farm and collective farmers. Each collective farmer received his share in accordance with the worked workdays.

      In other words: the more each worked better and the more the collective farm produced, the more each member of the collective farm ultimately received production (either in kind or after its realization by the collective farm).
      1. Red hornet
        Red hornet 14 May 2013 12: 40
        10
        And confirmation of this is Ferapont Golovaty, a Soviet collective farmer who, during the war years, contributed his personal savings for the construction of two fighter aircraft ...
        1. Vladimirets
          Vladimirets 14 May 2013 13: 21
          0
          Quote: Red Hornet
          And confirmation of this is Ferapont Golovaty, a Soviet collective farmer who, during the war years, contributed his personal savings for the construction of two fighter aircraft ...

          There were also prosperous ones from rich collective farms, drummers, etc., but there were a minority of them. Well, Golovaty was a collective farmer beekeeper, and they are not poor people under any authority (who knows), although this does not detract from his merits.
          1. washi
            washi 14 May 2013 16: 47
            +3
            And who prevented the establishment of normal production in the traditional Russian community? The law did not interfere. Moreover, the law did not interfere with the private production of agricultural products, which the collective farmers did. There was a rate of change. The rest was divided into a community or take it for yourself. Where a competent leader lived there well, even during the war. And where the community was frightened - there they lived as if under the king.
        2. viktorR
          viktorR 15 May 2013 10: 34
          0
          Well then, the plane cost almost three buckets of honey, Maybe I exaggerate, but very inexpensively, then it was easier for Golovatov to make money on a fighter than for the same period for a Chinese automobile industry car.
          1. washi
            washi 18 May 2013 14: 04
            0
            Conclusion - agricultural products were valued expensive. Peasants on collective farms lived well.
      2. Vladimirets
        Vladimirets 14 May 2013 13: 20
        +2
        Quote: anip
        Nonsense.

        Quote: anip
        In other words: the more each worked better and the more the collective farm produced, the more each member of the collective farm ultimately received production (either in kind or after its realization by the collective farm).

        You need to look wider, and not just read the letters. That's just the point, agricultural products have always been the cheapest, at the level of backwardness of the country's agriculture, difficult climatic conditions and product orders, revenue was low, peasants got a penny, scrap labor, but no money. The peasants only dreamed of the money that the workers received.
        1. rate
          rate 14 May 2013 14: 37
          +2
          Do not forget about millionaire collective farms. There were many of them.
        2. washi
          washi 14 May 2013 16: 52
          +2
          You need to look wider, and not just read the letters. That's just the point, agricultural products have always been the cheapest, at the level of backwardness of the country's agriculture, difficult climatic conditions and product orders, revenue was low, peasants got a penny, scrap labor, but no money. The peasants only dreamed of the money that the workers received.
          YEAH OF COURSE. Under Stalin, collective farmers had not only collective farm, but also personal farming. And during the war, the most expensive is food. What money did the poor collective farmers build tank columns for?
          1. Vladimirets
            Vladimirets 14 May 2013 18: 58
            +2
            Quote: Vasya
            Under Stalin, collective farmers had not only collective farm, but also personal farming.

            Of course they did, it was necessary to eat something. Only now they kept this economy underground, they hayed a personal cow in the forests and inconveniences, on a rare weekend, as well as a garden, in a rare free time.
            Quote: Vasya
            And during the war, the most expensive is food.

            I agree, they just sent all the food to the front, everything for victory and did not have to be considered.
            Quote: Vasya
            What money did the poor collective farmers build tank columns for?

            For the last, for family rings and earrings, for the last grams of bread and meat, this was a great feat, they gave back, all that they could.
            1. washi
              washi 18 May 2013 14: 27
              0
              Of course they did, it was necessary to eat something. Only now they kept this economy underground, they hayed a personal cow in the forests and inconveniences, on a rare weekend, as well as a garden, in a rare free time.
              Of course. Strada is, under any authority, sleepless weeks. While the land is ready, it is necessary to sow very quickly. Nevertheless, there were children trained and trained to work. And there was no need to hide in the ravines. Everything was open. This is not now to grab public money. They asked to buy government bonds. But on them until the death of the USSR everyone paid. [/ Color
        3. washi
          washi 18 May 2013 14: 15
          0
          Under Stalin, no one limited the personal farm of the collective farmer. Everyone had a household. There were obligatory workdays (according to the old corvee), and given the mechanization (MTS), the peasant worked for himself more time. Therefore, canneries also developed on normal collective farms. They accepted, though at a fixed price, but no one forbade anyone to stand on the city market. Even during the war. For liberals and democrats, read Solzhenitsyn between criticisms of Stalinism.
      3. ed65b
        ed65b 14 May 2013 18: 38
        0
        My grandfather and grandmother did not tell me how they got rich during the Second World War in the village. And how she spoke for spikelets sent to camps, and how, from starvation, they went to the fields at night to collect these same spikelets so that the watchman would not catch the same thing. Everything to the front, the whole village worked to win. But the people did not fat. But Golovaty must have gutted the old pre-war nest egg or propaganda.
        1. washi
          washi 18 May 2013 14: 33
          0
          During the war, everyone survived, except for cultural figures. And individual Great regiments. Here they are grabbing. And Party members.
          It was the same during Chechnya.
    2. Aleksys2
      Aleksys2 14 May 2013 16: 27
      +4
      Quote: Vladimirets
      The peasants alone, as serfs, worked for workdays both during the war and after it.

      a workday is not a working day, but a certain amount of work, the norm: mow a certain area, weed or plow. Advanced workers earned dozens of workdays per day.
      In 1939, a minimum was established of what had to be worked out on the collective farm, from 60 to 100 workdays per year.
      With the outbreak of war, the minimum workdays was increased to 100-150 workdays per year.
      Example:
      For one workday in the farm Dawn in the 1937 year, the collective farmer received: 30 kg of grain, 5 rubles. 80 cop., 65 gr of meat, 65 gr of wool, 2,3 kg of hay.
      The family of the collective farmer Ustyantsev, earning 760 workdays, receives 1500 pounds of bread and 4000 rubles of money.
      1. Vladimirets
        Vladimirets 14 May 2013 18: 55
        0
        Quote: Aleksys2
        The family of the collective farmer Ustyantsev, earning 760 workdays, receives 1500 pounds of bread and 4000 rubles of money.

        And how much is 4000 rubles per family? After the reform 400 rubles a year, a lot, of course, 35 rubles a month, per family, the family of the collective farmer Ustyantsev snickered.
        1. Aleksys2
          Aleksys2 14 May 2013 20: 14
          +2
          Quote: Vladimirets
          After the reform 400 rubles a year, of course, a lot of 35 rubles a month, per family, the family of the collective farmer Ustyantsev snickered.

          What reform do you mean? 1922-1924 years? 1947 of the year? 1961 of the year? or 1991 of the year?
          1. Vladimirets
            Vladimirets 14 May 2013 21: 13
            -1
            Quote: Aleksys2
            What reform do you mean? 1922-1924 years? 1947 of the year? 1961 of the year? or 1991 of the year?

            The reforms of 1924 and 1991 have nothing to do with this conversation, do not drag too much, and during the other two exchanges were 1 to 10, so the meaning is the same.
            1. Aleksys2
              Aleksys2 15 May 2013 14: 08
              0
              Quote: Vladimirets
              The reforms of 1924 and 1991 have nothing to do with this conversation, do not drag too much, and during the other two exchanges were 1 to 10, so the meaning is the same.

              Duc any monetary reform to 1937 year has nothing to do.
              This collective farmer received for his workdays:
              1. 4408 rubles
              2. 22800 kg of grain
              3. 494 kg of meat
              4. 494 kg of wool
              5. 1748 kg of hay.
              The collective farmers could sell all this on the collective farm market in the city.
              In this case, do not forget about personal plots.
    3. washi
      washi 14 May 2013 16: 40
      +2
      The peasants alone, as serfs, worked for workdays both during the war and after it.
      But did the workers and engineers work for free, or did they get too much?
      It all depended on production, a ratsuha, and on cost savings. There were collective farms — millionaires and millionaire workers.
  4. omsbon
    omsbon 14 May 2013 09: 35
    +9
    Yes, modern "effective" managers should learn from the Stalinist people's commissars. Although for different problems the same solution does not exist. Some had a task to raise the country, while others to plunder it!
  5. avt
    avt 14 May 2013 11: 14
    +2
    Quote: omsbon
    Yes, modern "effective" managers should learn from the Stalinist people's commissars. Although for different problems the same solution does not exist. Some had a task to raise the country, while others to plunder it!

    Well, they themselves issued a proposal and immediately quite specifically and briefly explained the impossibility of its implementation. good
  6. Uzoliv
    Uzoliv 14 May 2013 11: 15
    +5
    Here is a curious quote from the author:
    “I must say that the Soviet monetary system, despite the introduction of the rationing system of distribution at the beginning of the war (it was introduced by other belligerent states) and significant inflation, has demonstrated high stability. In almost all areas, the ruble has retained its real purchasing power. The ruble has not become empty. paper, like the "kerenko" of the Provisional Government or the Soviet "million-" lemons "of the Civil War."
    It is necessary to note a very important fact, namely, a significant part of the population, and this more than 50% was excluded from the Soviet monetary system. This workers and employees received a salary, and the peasants received workdays. And the turning point between the urban and rural population in numbers in favor of the urban one occurred under Khrushchev. As you know, the less money the population has, the less inflation (I will make a reservation, this is not the only way to fight inflation). Therefore, it is not surprising that financial stability has been preserved - no. The Stalinist financial system is austerity.
  7. Rainger
    Rainger 14 May 2013 11: 33
    +2
    Right now they will blame but somehow this idyllic picture does not fit and at the same factory No. 17 (Barnaul) during the war, the average wage of a worker ranged from 535 to 709 rubles. (TSAAF AK, F.R-1453, Op. 1, D. 67, L.13; Ibid., D. 123, L. 54, 57; Ibid., D. 10, L. 37, 41-42) . In the Novosibirsk Region, the average salary of a working people's commissariat of ammunition was approximately comparable. But how much really could you buy products freely on the market? By the way, such affectors somehow forget about subscribing to bonds for the defense fund and membership dues for party VKP (b), the Komsomol, trade unions ... And if the author of the article tries to compare with the damned before the revolutionary past, then under Nikolai II in 1914 - 1917 the card system in the country was not introduced by growth ... (I will accept all response arguments based on sources, the mysterious gibberish in the text is an archive link, I ask you to consider the minus minors Trotskyites-Nazis).
    It’s just that the idyll somehow doesn’t even agree with the official Soviet propaganda about the fact that during the war years there was a continuous tin with food in the rear ...
    1. Rainger
      Rainger 14 May 2013 12: 01
      0
      Oh, anonymus went to throw cons ... how did they start linking to archives to bring them immediately to the bushes ...
    2. Ascetic
      Ascetic 14 May 2013 12: 19
      +8
      Quote: Rainger
      (I will accept all response arguments based on sources, the mysterious gibberish in the text is an archive link, minusculers please consider the Trotskyists-Nazis).


      Strongly said ... After that, who wants to minus good The father, whose childhood was spent in the war years in evacuation and then in the Smolensk village, says that he first tasted white bread in a military school in the early 50s. "Everything for the front, everything for Victory" was not just a slogan. and life itself and its purpose. It remains only once again to bow low to our people who have borne all this horror of the war on their shoulders and remained the Winners no matter what.
      1. Rainger
        Rainger 14 May 2013 12: 34
        -3
        Well, how can we work like that ... Just when I wrote a diploma on the defense industry in the Altai Territory, I had to read a fairly large number of documents concerning the life of workers of the war period ... Mostly under the heading Secret, such details get out there - horror ...
        1. washi
          washi 18 May 2013 14: 55
          0
          Horror is how? In wartime, taking out factories, organizing production, rest (minimal) is already a feat. Try to make a plant in peace (our) time.
          An algorithm for production in wartime: what to produce, find where, find suppliers, find who will produce, arrange accommodation (food, washing).
          The workers and everyone else lived in shit, but they produced products.
          The fact that they already in peacetime could not organize decent conditions. Are these the problems of Stalin and Beria? And how many small anti-Khrushchev strikes?
      2. washi
        washi 18 May 2013 14: 40
        -1
        Read modern nutritionists. White bread is bad.
    3. viktorR
      viktorR 14 May 2013 12: 33
      +8
      To begin with, the Great Patriotic War has its own name for a reason ... And therefore, it is not worth comparing it with the First World War.
      Well, of course, I understand that you absolutely rightly blame Stalin for not supplying all residents, without exception, with a "grocery basket" with pineapples, bananas, balykas and red caviar during some kind of war. Oh well, and a tyrant !!!
      1. Rainger
        Rainger 14 May 2013 13: 07
        -9
        Eeee, the First World War was also called the Second World War, only the name didn’t take root because of the change of power in the country ... another question is that, in connection with the more thoughtful actions of the General Staff at the beginning of the war, defeats comparable to the summer of 1941 were avoided and the Russian economy felt yourself is somewhat better than the economy of the USSR and do not distort my words, I didn’t say that, just the work of party members on the ground sometimes doesn’t stand any criticism ... Well, the Soviet regime has nothing special since the war e threatened ...
        1. SPQR
          SPQR 14 May 2013 13: 18
          +3
          Do you even know the history of the First World War? There were two such Samsons and Renenkampf and a place near Tanenberg. Did the economy feel better? Ha Ha Ha, but she lived on Western subsidies. The USSR did not threaten anything other than the Nazis in Europe and the Japanese militarists on in the east, you probably don’t know, but in WWI, Japan was in no way, but allies. Take off your pink glasses, looking at the history of the First World War!
          1. Rainger
            Rainger 14 May 2013 13: 37
            -7
            The total losses in the East Prussian operation amounted to 70 thousand people, in fact, a trifle for the AUXILIARY operation in the interests of the coalition which played a positive role (minus two corps from the direction of the main attack) ... Can you give proof or just one word?

            Fascists? Ooh, I represent hordes of black shirts by Mussolini carrying out plans to capture the USSR ... Japanese militarists? Oh, a country with an industrial level of development somewhere around Belgium with three thousand tanks fired during the war, bogged down in a war with China, is trying to attack several million more hectares of taiga called the Soviet Far East. Have you ever wondered with whom Hitler would conclude a peace treaty if Barbaross’s plan not to let Ilúvator miraculously come true?

            Oh yes, and Lend-Lisa in the years of the Great Patriotic War, in your opinion, was it not?
            1. Aleksys2
              Aleksys2 14 May 2013 16: 38
              0
              Quote: Rainger
              The total losses in the East Prussian operation amounted to 70 thousand people, essentially a trifle for the AUXILIARY operation in the interests of the coalition which played a positive role (minus two corps from the direction of the main strike)

              The East Prussian operation 1914 is an offensive operation of the Russian armies of the North-Western Front (commanded by General Ya. G. Zhilinsky) 4 (17) August - 2 (15) September at the beginning of the 1 World War. At the request of France, the offensive was undertaken before the end of the mobilization and concentration of the Russian armies in order to thwart the offensive of the main German forces against France. The immediate goal of V. about. was the capture of East Prussia for the subsequent invasion into Germany. The defeat of the Russian armies (their losses amounted to 245 thousand people, including 135 thousand prisoners) in the east coast, despite the courage of the troops thrown into the offensive without proper training, understaffed, without organized rear, was the result of the unsatisfactory leadership of Zhilinsky , as well as actual betrayal by Rennenkampf. Large losses of personnel, especially officers, affected the combat effectiveness of the Russian army. On 3 (16) on September, General Zhilinsky was dismissed from the post of commander of the North-Western Front, and General N.V. Ruzsky was appointed in his place.
              1. Rainger
                Rainger 14 May 2013 18: 09
                -2
                You are what it is based on. Not aware, for example, that the Entente countries lost in the balance of power at the front in the first 48 days of the war? And the East Prussian operation was a necessary step for winning the entire campaign of 1914, to remain alone with the Kaiser army, no one smiled in 1914 except England, for it, after Schlieffen’s plan, the war was just beginning ... There wasn’t just time to prepare, but as a result, in 1914, the central powers actually lost the war ...
              2. washi
                washi 18 May 2013 14: 59
                0
                The defeat is due to the lack of education of the officers and command.
                Now, if we are threatened with defeat, then for the same reasons. Plus bribing the command
            2. washi
              washi 14 May 2013 17: 06
              +1
              PNH DLB
              Read your loved ones. Who where. How many destroyed.
              1. Rainger
                Rainger 14 May 2013 18: 31
                -4
                I don’t have any loved ones, but you have ...
              2. Rainger
                Rainger 14 May 2013 19: 19
                -3
                And by the way, I did not insult you ....
            3. anomalocaris
              anomalocaris 14 May 2013 18: 45
              0
              Sucks being stupid. Well, if you are in the secret archives, then be kind, take an interest in the plans for mobilization and war for 1912-1913. And do not grind nonsense.
              1. Rainger
                Rainger 14 May 2013 19: 17
                -3
                I don’t enter the secret archives, I only worked with local regional party ones, including declassified ones, and if this is an invitation to Podolsk at your expense, I expect from you a money transfer and help in obtaining a relationship .... And if you are not familiar with the contents of the plan Schlieffen and the German deployment scheme within the framework of this plan and the real balance of forces on the fleets in August-September 1914, then read the classics on the miller: Takman and Galaktionova, everything is said in the applications ... and where did you get the mysterious knowledge of the mobplans of the Russian General Staff before Vel Coy War I at a loss its sources you do not have sounded all unfounded ....
                1. anomalocaris
                  anomalocaris 14 May 2013 19: 28
                  +2
                  The Moltke-Schlieffen plan is known to me. The real balance of power for Germany defined a war on two fronts. Another conversation is that if, in spite of the strained cries of the French and English, the military plan of the General Staff of the Russian Empire had been fulfilled, it is quite possible that Austria-Hungary would have been knocked out of the war by the summer of 1915, and the Germans, perhaps even taking Paris, would have been in deep and hopeless dupe.
                  1. Rainger
                    Rainger 14 May 2013 20: 10
                    0
                    The fact of the matter is that with the fall of Paris, France leaves the game automatically and the Germans, according to Schlieffen’s plan, begin to transfer forces to the eastern front already on the 72nd day of the operation it seems so ... Do not forget the Germans Railway network is better developed than Russia, and the superiority in heavy artillery in 1914 was in Germany (more than the entire Entente combined), do you seriously think that cousin Willy in October 1914 will suddenly become ripe for Nikki's cousin? Nicholas II was NOT an idiot SO ...
                    1. anomalocaris
                      anomalocaris 15 May 2013 15: 48
                      0
                      Yeah. And how would the British look at it? So the Franks would have fought to the stop. With all the ensuing consequences.
        2. avt
          avt 14 May 2013 13: 34
          +2
          Quote: Rainger
          another question is that in connection with the more thought-out actions of the General Staff at the beginning of the war, defeats comparable to the summer of 1941 were avoided by the Russian army and the economy of the Russian Empire felt slightly better than the economy of the USSR

          Well this is generally ... request And the accident of the 15th does not tell you anything? And the loss of territory, including Poland, which was part of the Empire, is that how? And the arms hunger with tremendous efforts overcame due to foreign supplies for gold?
          1. Rainger
            Rainger 14 May 2013 13: 59
            -4
            Well, it happened, but you must agree that it doesn’t look so catastrophic as the defeats of the summer of 1941, but there was a Western front, but the Russian army actually stood alone and didn’t retreat very far in France, the war was on its territory, but THERE, unlike YOU, none of this tragedy doesn’t ... Was it or not Yes there was a famine of weapons but there was a Brusilovsky breakthrough in the summer of 1916, but they decided at the expense of external deliveries and what is bad? Lend-Lease you, too, the weakness of the USSR will not be called please double standards ...
            1. avt
              avt 14 May 2013 16: 03
              +2
              Quote: Rainger
              Well, it happened, but you must agree that it doesn’t look so catastrophic as the defeats of the summer of 1941, but there was a Western front, but the Russian army actually stood alone and didn’t retreat very far in France, the war was on its territory, but THERE, unlike YOU, none of this tragedy doesn’t ... Was it or not Yes there was a famine of weapons but there was a Brusilovsky breakthrough in the summer of 1916, but they decided at the expense of external deliveries and what is bad? Lend-Lease you, too, the weakness of the USSR will not be called please double standards ...

              Strongly however. During the war on two fronts of the Germans, the imperial army received not very weak from the Reichswehr. So I lost all of Poland and the Baltic states, by the way, the term of the August catastrophe was introduced precisely then, I’m not inventing anything. Well, in a light talk about weapons hunger ... request Read Fedorov and find out when he was overcome, almost only by the end of the 16th. No, of course it is easier to talk about the villain Stalin and his commissars who drove unarmed machine guns with a couple of shells on a gun and talk about the "brilliant" general staff of the tsarist army in August 15 By the way, did we take Berlin after Brusilov's breakthrough? Or is Stalin again to blame? He the villain stopped Nikolka's train at the Dno station and forced all the commanders, including Brusilov, to send telegrams in favor of the "abdication" arranged by the Rodzians , Shulgin and other monarchists? Or was it a brilliant move by outstanding military strategists - to drain the commander-in-chief and destroy the army before the defeat of the Germans by the Entente? A strong strategic move! The Supreme with the General Staff of the Red Army is resting in comparison with such patriots and oath ministers. Regarding supplies - oddly enough there are no analogies here. On the one hand, the mobilization of all forces for the struggle and, by the way, for the future, in addition to weapons, they also received machine-tool equipment, continued the neglected industrialization. Oh, Reilly, he also played up, a lot of domestic bugs sucked and got a little gold. So there was no special cunning of the Imperial General Staff in the strategic plan. But somehow the current propaganda of the canonized royal family needs to be informed, so they catch up with horror for 41 years and add the valor that undoubtedly took place in the 14th year. And again we do not draw correct conclusions.
              1. Rainger
                Rainger 14 May 2013 18: 17
                -2
                And you don’t distort my words, I didn’t say a word about the bad Stalin, but you attribute to me what I said, that is, you are a liar and a demagogue ... You can bring a source from where you got the source in plain text, or you can again la ....
            2. washi
              washi 14 May 2013 17: 09
              -1
              Purchases for cash, gold and ore called Lend-Lease?
              1. dddym
                dddym 14 May 2013 19: 13
                0
                Well, what if it was called that? :)
            3. anomalocaris
              anomalocaris 14 May 2013 18: 52
              +3
              Once again I repeat - it’s bad to be stupid. On the western front at that time there were stubborn and bloody battles, what would you know. This is the first. And secondly, the war of 1914 and 1941 are two very big differences. Although, I'm afraid this is beyond your comprehension.
              1. Rainger
                Rainger 14 May 2013 19: 05
                0
                You specify when exactly these battles on the western front were gathering thoughts?
                1. anomalocaris
                  anomalocaris 14 May 2013 19: 17
                  0
                  Is the word combination "Miracle on the Marne" known? If not, try typing in a search engine. Although, in your case, it seems late ...
                  1. Rainger
                    Rainger 14 May 2013 20: 01
                    0
                    It was impossible to clarify right away? and now we begin in order the chronology of the July crisis of 1914 you do not need to specify? And the content of Schlieffen’s plan as amended by Moltke Jr.? If you know, then briefly it was like this:
                    The right wing of the German army begins maneuvering through Belgium in accordance with the plan, but there in the west the gloomy Teutonic genius began to be annealed by Grandfather Schlieffen when he wrote his plan, he considered the following:
                    We can’t break the line of the French border fortresses, but if we break through it, we lose time and we don’t have the Entente’s ice going for a long time, but if the kirdyk is gathered, they will crush the mass sooner or later. So it is necessary to quickly as far as the means allow to surround them around Paris with asymmetric coverage - where will they go from Paris? And stumble while the Russians are not going to. Therefore, the best option would be that the center and the left wing of the Kaiser army do not rock the boat and sit near Metz.
                    But Herr Moltke, Jr. decided that there would not be enough troops for the left flank according to the initial version and strengthens the left wing due to the strike right.
                    When the war broke out in the early days, the Germans were doing pretty well Liège and Namur were washed down by the Germans quite quickly, though King Leopold with the rest of the army retreated not to the west, but to the north to Antwerp. broke through. While the Germans attacked the central part (it seems it was Kronprinz himself), the Germans wanted their own piece of glory and they climbed up to beat the French gambling, they threw them away, but thereby they accelerated the retreat of the French troops west to the Verdun-Paris line ... As a result of this compote in the ranks of the Germans formed a gap to eliminate it Moltke-ml orders the right wing to change direction from west to south-west, thereby leaving Paris to the left of its strike wing. Meanwhile, while the Germans were hopping through Flanders, the 1st and 2nd Russian armies entered eastern Prussia, the German Junkers panicked, to put it mildly, somehow forgot to let them know that while everything was going as it should, but the German commander-8 suffered and he became to call the bosses Moltke allocated two corps from the strike wing and replaced the commander-8 of Hindenburg. The offensive of the 1st and 2nd armies simultaneously with the intention to frighten the Germans was intended to cover the northern flank for the deployment of the South-Western Front against Austria to continue?
        3. Drosselmeyer
          Drosselmeyer 14 May 2013 14: 43
          +3
          Was there anything threatening the Soviet regime? The very location of the Wehrmacht is 50 km away. from Moscow, for five months from the start of the war, do not you consider a threat to the regime? But the mass executions of communists and commissars and the occupation of the entire industrialized part of the country?
          1. Rainger
            Rainger 14 May 2013 18: 21
            -2
            You saw a map of the USSR and read the plan of Barbarossa? If you seriously think that 190 (according to the official Soviet version) divisions would really be enough to defeat such a rather big state like the USSR, then I can only sympathize with you since you don’t know the equipment ....
            1. anomalocaris
              anomalocaris 14 May 2013 18: 56
              +1
              Regarding the reality or not reality of the Barbarossa plan, all questions are for Keitel and Paulus. You can even try to summon their perfume.
              The fact is that this plan was developed and accepted for implementation. This, baby, is confirmed by documents and the whole course of events.
              1. Rainger
                Rainger 14 May 2013 19: 09
                -1
                Well, then what of this? Adopted developed successfully prosrali exactly by July and what next? In the Second World War, before June 22, everything was clear ... The Third Reich is in a deep ass and it’s impossible to get out of it. Why is Adik Russia also not clear that there were not enough of his problems ...
                1. anomalocaris
                  anomalocaris 14 May 2013 19: 20
                  +1
                  To whom was this clear? List these in the studio. Or will there be only your last name?
                  1. Rainger
                    Rainger 14 May 2013 20: 15
                    0
                    S. B. Pereslegin will suit you? Do you seriously think the Third Reich is so cool to endure the British Empire of the United States and the USSR Chokh? The Nazis did not have dominance at sea, and therefore could not claim victory in a global war in principle ...
                    1. anomalocaris
                      anomalocaris 15 May 2013 16: 26
                      0
                      Absolutely not satisfied. By the way, what would you know, the Third Reich on June 22, 1941 was in a war only with Britain.
                      Z.Y. My advice to you, do not read the slayer for the night.
    4. ranalexsandra
      ranalexsandra 14 May 2013 14: 27
      +7
      When Soviet troops liberated Kursk in 1943, my mother swelled with hunger. Note that she was immediately admitted to the hospital, and it was not even possible to take a comb from home. Everything was given by the state. I dare to note that in Kursk there was no stone left over after the retreat of the Nazis. Yes, of course you can wag your tongue and write all kinds of nonsense. Yes, there were loan bonds, but people worked day and night, and overcoming hunger, cold and tiredness did everything to win. For smart guys like you. Where it was possible to plant and sow, if mines and shells left over from the Second World War are still found on our territory. And the fields near Kursk, and for several years after their life, red grass grew on them, since the earth was soaked in human blood. And the truth is "disgrace" - bananas were not given with pineapples. "Bad" state.
    5. washi
      washi 14 May 2013 17: 02
      +3
      Do not forget the card system. Salaries were paid excluding food prices that had risen. Food on the cards for free. Those who fought at the front transferred their money to relatives.
      The intelligentsia was in the bastard to work with their hands, so they were starving, maybe.
      They are disgusted to work now. They organize rallies.
    6. washi
      washi 18 May 2013 14: 39
      0
      In Novosibirsk, my grandfather ran to the factory from mobilization. because he was the last man in the family. Rations and salary. It was enough to send money to his and 4 other families.
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  9. Standard Oil
    Standard Oil 14 May 2013 13: 05
    +6
    Probably if the current critics of the Stalinist system would have been at the helm, then they would have taken Berlin by 12 o’clock on June 22, 1941, and people would have been skating in oil, several of such critics-morons who had given in to power would ruin the country, and the rest would indulge them.
    1. Rainger
      Rainger 14 May 2013 13: 38
      -8
      No, this is a Communist Party consisting of cowards of careerists and traitors to the motherland, once again scared like in 1941 ...
  10. avt
    avt 14 May 2013 13: 37
    +4
    Quote: Standard Oil
    Probably if the current critics of the Stalinist system would have been at the helm, then they would have taken Berlin by 12 o’clock on June 22, 1941, and people would have been skating in oil, several of such critics-morons who had given in to power would ruin the country, and the rest would indulge them.

    Yeah, that’s how straightforward you are to see Gorbachev’s speaker - the process has gone awry, and I reject your attacks. And then Yeltsin with drunk tears - forgive me Russians, understand.
    1. Rainger
      Rainger 14 May 2013 13: 50
      -4
      And what is the Communist Party sacred cow and Caesar's wife in one thing that they are beyond criticism and beyond suspicion? I don’t criticize Stalin’s face at all, I dislike YOUR position is extremely populist illiterate and cowardly ... You have one meta minus your opponent and argue something for scrap ...
      1. viktorR
        viktorR 14 May 2013 16: 02
        +4
        Forgive me, but so many counterarguments were given to you that a sane person would have agreed long ago. But either your belief in libarals does not allow you, or the insult that you were wrong, you continue to rant. Of course, ideally, it was possible to get by with a little blood and not overstrain. But for some reason I am sure that replacing all "extremely populist, illiterate and cowardly" with people like you would be a disaster.
        1. Rainger
          Rainger 14 May 2013 18: 11
          -1
          What points do I list them? I don’t see something in my howl?
      2. avt
        avt 14 May 2013 16: 34
        +5
        Quote: Rainger
        And what is the Communist Party sacred cow and Caesar's wife in one thing that they are beyond criticism and beyond suspicion?

        I hope you put a minus for stupidity. Expressed out of ignorance,
        Quote: Rainger
        No, this is a Communist Party consisting of cowards of careerists and traitors to the motherland, once again scared like in 1941 ...

        In the forty-first, it was thanks to the work of the party-economic apparatus that EVERYONE and EVERYTHING could be mobilized to fight Nazism, and thanks to, and not contrary to the activity, the evacuation was carried out, and much more. This was only at Svanidze and Radzinsky that Stalin hid in the country , the Communists and the NKVD officers ran away, and the people themselves somehow gathered in cities and villages, decided who would go somewhere, who would go to the factory as directors or workers, and who would be privates, and whom they chose as marshal. laughing Do not confuse the party members of the 41st and the party of the times not even of late Brezhnev, but of the hunchbacked precursors.
        1. Rainger
          Rainger 14 May 2013 18: 13
          -4
          You will tell this to the Komsomol members at a party meeting, but I didn’t touch Stalin, it’s just that it’s difficult to call some reaction of the CPSU (b) panic and there were enough cowards, and I hope you don’t deny this among the Communists?
          1. avt
            avt 14 May 2013 19: 31
            -1
            Quote: Rainger
            You will tell this to the Komsomol members at a party meeting, but I didn’t touch Stalin, it’s just that it’s difficult to call some reaction of the CPSU (b) panic and there were enough cowards, and I hope you don’t deny this among the Communists?

            Well, back at 13.38
            Quote: Rainger
            No, this is a Communist Party consisting of cowards of careerists and traitors to the motherland, once again scared like in 1941 ...

            The party consisted in 41 m consisted of careerists, cowards and traitors to the motherland with a small letter, and now we include the back. Now the reaction of the VKPb is some and not safe, and the cowards say not all but enough. So who is the liar and demagogue? You are kind.
            Quote: Rainger
            About the fact of correspondence in clear text, where did you get the specific source

            But I won’t, you’ll not feed the horse, you’ll interrupt, you want to find it yourself, since you wrote dissertations with sources, you should have been able to work, but with all the shouting about the arguments, you don’t need them, you have one argument - your own opinion, the rest is with him naturally diverging lies and deceit.
            1. Rainger
              Rainger 15 May 2013 08: 35
              -2
              How do you feel about the processes of 1937? Why did so many enemies of the people suddenly appear in the CPSU (B.)? It seems to me that not everyone has been cleaned up judging by June 22, 1941 and subsequent events? And how sin all the enemies suddenly found themselves among yours ....
        2. Rainger
          Rainger 14 May 2013 18: 29
          -2
          By the way, why I do not have the right to such a judgment if you also force me to draw conclusions based only on the brochures of an official organization, which, with a rather large unsatisfactory creak, performed its duties fulfilling the will of the GKO ...
    2. ranalexsandra
      ranalexsandra 14 May 2013 14: 09
      +4
      Remarkably said !!!! Nothing to add Thank you
    3. washi
      washi 14 May 2013 17: 13
      +2
      Probably if the current critics of the Stalinist system would have been at the helm, then they would have taken Berlin by 12 o’clock on June 22, 1941, and people would have been skating in oil, several of such critics-morons who had given in to power would ruin the country, and the rest would indulge them.
      In June they couldn’t. But they would celebrate the New Year in Paris.
  11. ranalexsandra
    ranalexsandra 14 May 2013 14: 06
    +9
    Thanks so much for the article. Very interesting. I have one question. Who will answer? Why was the right state policy being pursued at that difficult time for the country - now there is no war, but we are in .....? All my life I worked, and a pension of 5 rubles. Under the former state, even in a nightmare, this situation could not be dreamed of. And it’s already impossible to get a job after 300-40. Who will answer when it ends? Thanks in advance for your reply.
    1. Uncle lee
      Uncle lee 14 May 2013 16: 00
      +8
      It interests me too
    2. Rainger
      Rainger 14 May 2013 18: 22
      -3
      And who if not a secret worked then?
  12. Takashi
    Takashi 14 May 2013 14: 45
    +4
    Finally, a worthwhile article among the endless comparison of whose tank is better :)
    It might be worthwhile to supplement what measures the Government took to depreciate the money supply, in addition to austerity. As well as how the NKVD bodies worked in this area.
    1. ed65b
      ed65b 14 May 2013 18: 29
      0
      And Medvedev on the table.
  13. gmajor
    gmajor 14 May 2013 17: 14
    0
    Dear, on the bill at the top who is depicted? If a pilot, then why a parachute on his chest?
  14. washi
    washi 14 May 2013 17: 17
    +1
    Everything is described in books and articles. But the monetary reform was carried out GENIALLY and in compliance with SECRET. As a result, HAPPUGES suffered
  15. ded_73
    ded_73 14 May 2013 17: 51
    +1
    Everything is correct, but Nodar Dumbadze is not Georgian, but a great Soviet writer.
  16. ed65b
    ed65b 14 May 2013 18: 28
    +2
    As a veteran who went through the whole war and took Berlin said. "When we entered Poland, they gave us zlotys. In the Czech Republic, they gave us kroons in Germany, but the Germans did not give them rubles, so what kind of occupants were we?" Gold words.
  17. deman73
    deman73 14 May 2013 19: 52
    +1
    An interesting informative article, but as for the village, I’ll say as my grandmother told me, their chairman was normal during the war, so they didn’t starve, but they didn’t
  18. Standard Oil
    Standard Oil 14 May 2013 23: 15
    0
    Sometimes it’s probably easier to convince the lamppost than our liberals, although the lamppost will have more intelligence.
  19. bublic82009
    bublic82009 14 May 2013 23: 25
    +1
    the economy during the war resisted and allowed to restore it after the war.
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  21. Vemes
    Vemes 13 December 2014 18: 26
    0
    It turns out that now the state of the economy is worse than after the war?
  22. 2ez
    2ez 2 October 2018 22: 59
    0
    Sorry, but the truth is that in Baku the population also had problems with food. I don’t know, of course, what happened in the cafe-restaurants, but my mother, a Russian by nationality, says that they even ate watermelon peels ... And they did not always see the bread. My grandmother worked at a fish factory, dragging smoked fish. Until now, my mother recalls how my grandmother brought this fish, fat flows ... Mom does not eat smoked fish ... Somehow ...