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Politicians in Georgia again talk about countering "possible Russian aggression"

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The political struggle continues in Georgia. It would seem that after the defeat of his party in the parliamentary elections and the wave of information shedding light on the events of August 2008 in South Ossetia, Mikhail Saakashvili should think about somehow trying to save his face before the Georgian people and retire. avoiding a real criminal punishment (and the punishment can be quite real). But the current president, apparently, is going to storm the power Olympus of Georgia again, using every opportunity to find the main culprits that during the years of his rule Georgia did not join either NATO or the EU, and in addition lost more than a third of the territory a grand military provocation organized by Saakashvili more than 4 years ago. Mr. Saakashvili is not going to admit his guilt, but he is going to find it in the activities of the current majority in Georgia and, in addition, present new scenarios of his “Napoleon” plans.


So, about the “Napoleonic” plans of the outgoing president of Georgia and his “army” this autumn in order. To begin with, it is worth noting that Mr. Saakashvili, in his political activities, chose the following tactics: Saakashvili exposes any conversations to the current Georgian Prime Minister Ivanishvili about the need to normalize relations with Russia as trade in Georgian national interests. Obviously, in this way, Saakashvili, with his entire party retinue, wants to get support among those Georgian citizens who in recent years have become infected with the stereotype of Russia as the number one enemy with whom it is necessary to talk exclusively from a position of strength. It was about the position of power in terms of “conversations” with the Russian Federation that Dimitri Shashkini (Dmitry Shashkin), the associate of President Saakashvili, reflected in one of his recent interviews with the Georgian media. The main military department of Georgia, Lieutenant Shashkin (yes, during his work as the head of the Georgian Ministry of Defense, he was exactly a lieutenant, and he still, in principle, still remains) headed from July to October 2012.

Politicians in Georgia again talk about countering "possible Russian aggression"


Shashkin, in terms of quotations from Winston Churchill, reminds Georgian citizens that Russia respects only strength, which makes it related to the “evil empire” - the Soviet Union. The ex-minister, who was born on the territory of the Ukrainian SSR, declares that Russia is an Asian country that perceives any act of goodwill as a signal for annihilation.

Until the state idea of ​​Russia changes, it will remain the main threat and enemy of our country.

Mr. Shashkin under the words about the “act of goodwill” apparently hints at the “goodwill” shown by the Georgian army on the orders of Saakashvili in August 2008 of the year. Apparently, the “Asian essence” of Russia, in his opinion, lies in the fact that she (Russia) moved troops to help its peacekeepers, who were shot by “Europeanized” Georgian military from artillery and volley fire systems, to help Russian citizens living on territory of South Ossetia. Well, what if the main sign of the Asian essence of the whole state is to come to the aid of their compatriots, no matter where they live, then let Russia remain at least three times Asian country (according to the classification of Lieutenant Shashkin), unlike the "European" Georgia Mikhail Saakashvili, who is trying to cover up his fifth point with an EU banner and gave orders to commit war crimes.

But the most interesting thing is not even the fact that the representative of political forces who are again determined to “take” the Georgian parliament speaks of Russia as the number one enemy. The most interesting thing is that Shashkin, obviously wanting to obtain the status of the main Georgian patriot of Ukrainian origin, reflects on the fact that Georgia will be able to return Abkhazia and South Ossetia under the “democratic wing”. Reflections of the ex-minister begin with the philosophical assessments of the civil war in Russia and a certain cunning move by the communists, and then logical perturbations lead him to urgently restore recruitment for the army to fight with Russia. In other words, Lieutenant Shashkin (Shashkini) apparently still wants to become a general, and therefore proposes to make the Georgian army mixed: contract-recruiting with a serious focus on reservists.

In order, as one of Mikhail Saakashvili’s supporters expressed this same Dmitry Shashkin, “to repel a possible Russian aggression,” we must now recruit thousands of young people into the Georgian army of 10. It is to call, but not to sign contractual obligations. At the same time, the service for the Georgian recruit Shashkin determines within one year, which, in his opinion, will allow in five years to bring the number of trained reservists to 50 thousand people. If we consider that while Shashkin was at the helm of the Georgian military, an analysis was made of the optimal composition of the Georgian army, which said that Georgia needed at least 100 thousand trained fighters to "solve" the Abkhaz and South Ossetian "issues", then 50 thousand, designated by Shashkin himself, this is half the “norm”. “Norms” for an attempt to now “force Russia to peace”.

In this case, Shashkin's reflections can be considered contradictory to Georgian reality itself. Words about switching to 100% army contract in Georgia were heard for a long time, but only this year, current Defense Minister Irakli Alasania (the one who received the post of defense minister after Shashkin) said that Georgia in 2013 might expect the last draft of youth to the army service. In the meantime, the spring model is in full swing, which is designed to bring to military service by Georgian counterparts the military registration and enlistment offices 1650 of young people aged from 18 to 27.

The draft campaigns in Georgia were carried out before Shashkin came to the post of defense minister, and at the time when he personally led the Georgian Defense Ministry, and after he was dismissed from the government of the country. So what, then, does this same gentleman, who considers himself a connoisseur of how to force Russia to abandon "aggressive plans in the Caucasus", speaks? What prevented and prevents Georgia from preparing its reservists from among those recruits who are sent to the reserve today? In all likelihood, the former minister hints that it is time for Georgia to increase the scale of the draft campaign in his country, and this hint goes also through the financial issue. In particular, Dmitry Shashkin states that contract servicemen cost the Georgian budget 100 million lari a year more than recruits, and this is not only an additional burden on the country's budget, but also (a strange logical chain - author’s comment) - increasing the likelihood of a new Russian intervention in Georgia

In general, Lieutenant Shashkin, together with President Saakashvili, are determined to have some kind of military revenge, or at least a military intimidation of their northern neighbors, that is, you and me, by increasing the number of draftees in the Georgian army.

Remember the words of Churchill. If Russia does not see that Georgia has the power to defend itself, and the support of NATO, it will simply swallow Georgia
- the ex-Minister of Defense finishes his argument on how to make such a country as an “Asian” and “enemy” Russian Federation be afraid of a democratic Georgia.

Of course, such words have delightedly pleased those Georgian gentlemen who still continue to consider Mikhail Saakashvili to be a great and infallible democratic politician of all time, and are confident that the Georgian army will still be able to show Russia to “fucking mother”. Only now people who are confident in the infallibility of Saakashvili in Georgia are becoming less and less every day, and therefore Mr. Shashkin’s reflections today should be perceived only as an element of political struggle within Georgia itself with the goal of gaining additional percentages for the UNM rating before the presidential elections and elections to bodies local governments that are coming to expect Georgia.

But how much Shashkin will raise this rating is a big question, especially on the basis of modern Georgian realities. Here is one of the examples of “national love” for its president and his party on the part of ordinary Georgian citizens. Immediately after representatives of the United National Movement (Mikhail Saakashvili’s party) again spoke out for cultivating ideas to show Russia to the “fucking mother” and denouncing the “ignorance of Ivanishvili’s foreign policy,” the very representatives were awaiting very unpleasant consequences. In particular, Mikhail Saakashvili with several of his supporters decided to dine at the restaurant “La Truffe”, from where he had to carry his legs, as other visitors to this establishment expressed obvious displeasure with such a neighborhood. Saakashvili himself managed to leave with several attendants, but members of the parliamentary faction of the UNM and former members of parliament he headed did not have time. Everything literally flew into them that other La Truffe visitors who had complained found their hands: from glass ashtrays to table knives. As a result, several members of the UNM were injured: MP Vashadze (head injury), MP Sakvarelidze (bruises on his face, a cut wound to his hand). Among the attackers marked one injured.

Saakashvili himself hastened to declare that he did not appear in the restaurant, and that the words that he had fled from the fight and curses from La Truffe are lies of political opponents. Obviously, if it were not for the bruises and wounds of his associates, received by them while visiting the restaurant, and if there were not several witnesses at once, then Saakashvili said that there were no UNM deputies in the restaurant, but they received their wounds in the fight against Asian invaders "on democratic fronts.

In general, this time Saakashvili and his closest associates did not manage to discuss the strategy and tactics of fighting the internal and external enemies of the UNM. And the very information about how some overly ambitious Georgian lieutenants, together with other politicians suffering from the Bonapartist complex of Georgia, are planning to develop the army and wage a political struggle in order to rein in the "Asians", suggests some historical analogies: unhealthy corporals, "subhuman enemies", beer putsches and everything like that ... How such things end up is well known.
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  1. Nicholas C.
    Nicholas C. 14 May 2013 07: 30
    26
    It is symbolic of a swift-footed tie-eater with a Bandera steaming for a couple.
    1. pribolt
      pribolt 14 May 2013 07: 54
      18
      Something Saak in the photo without a tie, it seems the last finished ...
      1. Gari
        Gari 14 May 2013 09: 50
        +2
        Obviously, in this way, Saakashvili, with his entire party retinue, wants to receive support among those citizens of Georgia who in recent years have become infected with the stereotype of Russia as the number one enemy that needs to be discussed exclusively from a position of strength

        Mikheil Saakashvili seems to be turning into an outcast in his own country. Neither presidential status nor numerous protection protects him from popular anger. The head of Georgia’s motorcade was thrown eggs in one of the regions where he came to meet with residents. At the same time, Saakashvili could not even get out of the car. However, supporters of the president still remained. But now they are being beaten more and more often in Georgia - moreover, on the air.
        1. KamikadZzzE1959
          KamikadZzzE1959 14 May 2013 14: 47
          +1
          K L O U N S !!!!!
        2. FC SKIF
          FC SKIF 14 May 2013 16: 18
          +1
          Saakashvili, you have already been written off, the curators have surrendered you, and you are so stupid that you don’t understand the obvious things. Remember the fate of the presidents of the Philippines, Iraq and others. Hiding in London, from this adder, if you are with money, then there is no extradition.
      2. waisson
        waisson 14 May 2013 10: 42
        +4
        not only a tie but also a belt and laces on boots
        1. de klermon
          de klermon 14 May 2013 21: 45
          +1
          Sa-ah-ah ... oh, what a president! But the defense ministry is a gift of fate in general! .. It’s just to compare them with a beer coup ... It’s a bit small ... If Shishkidze still pulls this crawl on Vlasov’s, then Sa-ah-the president only if a parody of what Something Quisling ...
      3. beech
        beech 14 May 2013 19: 52
        0
        nice go ..al Mr. Saakashvilli)
      4. ed1968
        ed1968 14 May 2013 20: 35
        0
        or maybe just ashamed to wear
    2. vadimus
      vadimus 14 May 2013 08: 07
      +4
      What restless are these? Did they wash the tinsels?
      1. treskoed
        treskoed 14 May 2013 08: 24
        +4
        Apparently, the payment is hourly for speeches, or page-by-page for publications ... It is necessary to live, without a post and power ..
        1. Gari
          Gari 14 May 2013 09: 55
          +1
          Residents of the second largest city in Georgia - Kutaisi - had a completely unhospitable welcome to President Mikheil Saakashvili. Arriving at a meeting with his associates hardly expected that his motorcade would be stoned. Saakashvili’s remarks about political opponents aroused people's displeasure.
          The security of Mikheil Saakashvili had to make every effort to guide the President of Georgia to the car surrounded by the protesters. Residents of Kutaisi blocked the office of the National Movement, where a meeting of the party asset was held. The demand is Saakashvili’s resignation as head of state.
          For several minutes the motorcade could not move. And when the jeeps rushed sharply, someone from the crowd began to throw stones at them. Security guards jumped into cars on the go.

          See the original material at http://www.1tv.ru/news/world/222514
      2. Egoza
        Egoza 14 May 2013 08: 46
        +7
        Quote: vadimus
        Did they wash the tinsels?

        Nah! The order to retreat from the Washington regional committee did not arrive! They will hold on to the last tie in a second hand.
        1. self-propelled
          self-propelled 14 May 2013 09: 07
          +2
          Quote: Egoza
          Nah! The order to retreat from the Washington regional committee did not arrive! They will hold on to the last tie in a second hand.

          not, the Yusov’s relatives are engaged in drawing Turkey into an open war with Syria, but they forgot about the tie-eater. here he is (lover of ties) and wriggles as he can ... request
      3. avt
        avt 14 May 2013 10: 47
        +2
        Quote: vadimus
        What restless are these? Did they wash the tinsels?

        So what to do ? It’s necessary to work out, and loans allocated for the war are best written off request So yapping that the owners would not drive away.
    3. NKVD
      NKVD 14 May 2013 09: 50
      +3

      Lieutenant checkers it's cool no words. Another "commander" corporal Hitler comes to mind. By the way, in which ward do we have "Napoleon"? laughing
    4. Sakhalininsk
      Sakhalininsk 14 May 2013 09: 56
      +5
      Quote: Nikolai S.
      It is symbolic of a swift-footed tie-eater with a Bandera steaming for a couple.


      Here a simple saying is more suitable: "TWO MUCH IS POWER!"
      1. Genady1976
        Genady1976 14 May 2013 17: 49
        0
        There are even no words, just drooling to spit on entih ----------- well, there are no words.
    5. Reasonable, 2,3
      Reasonable, 2,3 15 May 2013 03: 34
      0
      Here I am, I do not understand the Masochists, but rather, the election crap.
  2. pensioner
    pensioner 14 May 2013 07: 33
    +8
    about Russia as the number one enemy with whom you need to talk exclusively from a position of strength

    I do not understand ... From the position of what? What the hell are you doing? Or heavy ashtrays in Georgia?

    Deputy Vashadze (head injury)

    In-in. From childhood ...
    1. Old_kapitan
      Old_kapitan 14 May 2013 07: 55
      +5
      In-in. Since childhood ..

      Well yes. Mom gave birth while standing ... In the forecourt toilet ...
    2. Atlon
      Atlon 14 May 2013 08: 36
      13
      Quote: retired
      about Russia as the number one enemy with whom you need to talk exclusively from a position of strength

      laughing Come on ... Talk to us again "from a position of strength" ...
      The writing is on the wall: Comrades Georgians. Learn military affairs in this way. We’ll come check!
      1. 11 black
        11 black 14 May 2013 09: 05
        -6
        Quote: Atlon
        The inscription on the wall: Comrades Georgians. Learn military affairs in this way. Come check!

        It can be seen that if you increase Photoshop, it was written something else, although I'm not sure maybe just a series of pictures
        but in principle I agree with you - only in every sense can a sheep talk to a bear from a position of strength ...
        1. Atlon
          Atlon 14 May 2013 09: 39
          +2
          Quote: 11 black
          You can see that if you increase Photoshop, it was written something else,

          No photoshop definitely. This was shown on TV in due time. It's just that someone did a panorama shooting not very skillfully or with a cheap soap dish.
          1. yanus
            yanus 14 May 2013 10: 19
            +5
            Quote: Atlon
            No photoshop definitely. This was shown on TV in due time. It's just that someone did a panorama shooting not very skillfully or with a cheap soap dish.

            What a panorama shooting, what a photoshop. What are you doing? there stupidly 5 separate pictures are "glued" in the paint. Did the liberal conspiracy seekers bite you or what?
            1. Containers
              Containers 14 May 2013 21: 37
              -2
              Ask what "panoramic shooting" is =)
        2. pensioner
          pensioner 14 May 2013 10: 29
          +3
          Quote: 11 black
          You can see that if you increase Photoshop, it was written something else,

          About this inscription, even the Minister of Defense of Georgia in his report on the course of hostilities (for ssaki) wrote. He called it extremely humiliating for Georgia. Well, he knows better ... You can find in the internet.
      2. waisson
        waisson 14 May 2013 10: 46
        +2
        good good good offset !!! real and without speculation hi
      3. dc120mm
        dc120mm 14 May 2013 12: 06
        -1
        There is no photoshop, but it doesn’t rejoice over the victories of Malinkoi Georgia. It's a shame simple, you are not the ones from China or the USA.
        1. Lopatov
          Lopatov 14 May 2013 12: 10
          0
          They themselves are to blame. And you and Ossetians. Well, in part, we had to give both sides of the conflict horns long before August 2008. After all, each warm season is a mutual provocation with shooting, in any case it would end in war.
          1. pensioner
            pensioner 14 May 2013 22: 34
            +1
            Quote: Spade
            They themselves are to blame. And you and Ossetians.

            Exactly! My former cadets told that they tried to explain to the Ossetians even before the war: "Don't!" So no! The Ossetians thought that Georgia would be afraid to attack and trolled it to the fullest. Ours decided to take away their weapons.
            1. Lopatov
              Lopatov 14 May 2013 23: 05
              +1
              Yes, there they all troll each other. And all in a crowd troll peacekeepers. Either the Georgians on the block will be killed at point-blank range by the Georgians, or the Ossetians will face Kulakhmetov’s face with subordinates. Having fun from the heart every year, from spring to autumn.

              There was order there only at Land, that didn't sort out anyone. I drove both those and others. He blew up Ossetian 120-mm mortars, rode in Gori for a showdown on three BMPs. But by his joint efforts the Georgians and Ossetians "left" - the major general took his duties too seriously.

              So part of the blame for this war in Russia. There was nothing to go on about the parties to the conflict. Hussing in such matters leads to a lot of blood.
        2. pensioner
          pensioner 14 May 2013 12: 11
          +5
          Quote: dc120mm
          There is no photoshop, but it doesn’t rejoice over the victories of Malinkoi Georgia. It's a shame simple, you are not the ones from China or the USA.

          How to quietly attack - so big. How to get through the brain - so small. And victory is always a joyful event. And over the scoundrel - so in twins. Yes! And what do you write with an Estonian accent? Go to your native.
        3. carbofo
          carbofo 14 May 2013 15: 03
          +2
          Quote: dc120mm


          Assault without declaration of war is a grave war crime.
          It is also a grave crime unreasonable shooting of civilians.
          Another crime is an attack on a peacekeeping battalion.
          Georgia made all the mistakes that it could make, barking incorrectly about its defeat, exterminate and be silent.
          You yourself made porridge, be so kind as to eat and not whine.
          From an elephant's point of view, a pug is just a puddle on the pavement.
          You better think about what would happen to you if it were not for Russia, I think no one would remember who the Georgians would be after 50 years under the Turks.
          So all your people owe life to those who knew who is good and who is bad, you already have no smart people, and there is only enough intelligence left to grab more.
          Personally, I have nothing against the Georgians BUT if this goes the way and then you die out as a nation in 100 years, compare this forecast with 250 years of alleged occupation !!!.
          1. dc120mm
            dc120mm 14 May 2013 16: 25
            -6
            Quote: carbofo
            Assault without declaration of war is a grave war crime.
            It is also a grave crime unreasonable shooting of civilians.
            Another crime is an attack on a peacekeeping battalion.
            stop stop stop Georgia made mistakes but! that's what you wrote I will not comment on it, for God's sake smile
            1. carbofo
              carbofo 14 May 2013 16: 52
              +5
              You made no mistake, YOU KILLED PEOPLE.
              I do not need your comments, they are worthless.
              1. pensioner
                pensioner 14 May 2013 19: 29
                +2
                Quote: carbofo
                You made no mistake, YOU KILLED PEOPLE.
                I do not need your comments, they are worthless.

                !!! In addition, we have not forgotten.
            2. Old_kapitan
              Old_kapitan 15 May 2013 18: 00
              +1
              Georgia made mistakes but!
              The fact that you admit that Georgia made mistakes is good. But! "Mistakes must not be admitted. They must be washed off. Blood!" (C) Especially such. You have to be an idiot to shoot at Russian peacekeepers and expect Russia to look at the map - big Georgia, or small ...
        4. yustas
          yustas 15 May 2013 07: 15
          +1
          Quote: dc120mm
          victories of Malinkoi Georgia

          my son so constantly says how something should be so big, how to get in the ass, so small ...
          I do not divide the nation, but damn it, live together, and no one will touch you, I have many friends and acquaintances, of different nationalities, and nothing, we sit together and go on nature to relax.
          And if we were cheated, there’s nothing to shout now that you are small, have the courage to answer.
  3. vilenich
    vilenich 14 May 2013 07: 37
    +6
    Whatever the child would amuse, if only it would not climb!
    They chose the wrong country to measure with instruments!
    1. nickname 1 and 2
      nickname 1 and 2 14 May 2013 09: 06
      +1
      Quote: vilenich
      Whatever the child is amusing,


      Aw! MOPSik, sits already long ago in .ope, but even from there, unpleasant sounds are heard.
    2. omsbon
      omsbon 14 May 2013 09: 12
      +3
      Quote: vilenich
      They chose the wrong country to measure with instruments!


      They are measured not by instruments, but solely by asses, according to new gay liberal settings.
  4. mojohed
    mojohed 14 May 2013 07: 38
    +6
    In Georgia, it is Georgia, again before the elections, they stir up horror. Like their friends - the Balts, they are trying to earn points on who will "whip up" this horror the most. The one who scares the Georgians more will be chosen. Georgians do not have a consistent and clear political strategy. Until now, they live on the money of the West, which supports the stereotype of closeness to NATO in Georgians. I think that the turmoil starts and the West will throw the Georgians as it was in 20058. Azerbaijan is also flirting with NATO. But such flirting will not lead to something beneficial for these countries, because the main principle of stability and confidence in the future for any small state is friendship or good-neighborly relations with close neighbors. political points that are trying to pirouette to NATO and the West to earn the CIS kings will not be of any use to their states.
  5. Old_kapitan
    Old_kapitan 14 May 2013 07: 48
    +5
    Well, what if the main sign of the Asian essence of the whole state is to come to the aid of their compatriots, wherever they live, then let Russia remain at least three times as an Asian country

    And God give her such a stay!
  6. kind
    kind 14 May 2013 07: 54
    +4
    Well, what if the main sign of the Asian essence of the whole state is to come to the aid of their compatriots, wherever they live, then let Russia remain at least three times as an Asian country (according to the classification of Lieutenant Shashkin) in contrast to the "European" Georgia Mikheil Saakashvili, who is trying to cover his fifth point with the European Union banner and giving orders for war crimes.

    And what, the Asian is ashamed? Look at the map of the ratio of the territories of Europe and Asia. All enlightenment in Europe (with rare exceptions) came from "wild" Asia with the help of the same crusaders (read in today's article "Ode against the West"). From Asia, they learned what philosophy, astronomy, sugar, cosmetics, etc. are.
    The words: "This is what the whole enlightened Europe does" or "the European view" crumbles me, well, they have nothing special there, man is a wolf to man, business is considered a sacred word, concepts of good and moral are absent. It seems to me that they envy us, and therefore shit.
    1. pensioner
      pensioner 14 May 2013 07: 58
      +1
      Quote: Good
      Is Asian ashamed?

      China will explain to these rodents in 2 counts on fingers that no.
      1. WS
        WS 14 May 2013 19: 08
        +1
        Stalin, as you recall, was called Asian, but he seems to be a Georgian with Abkhazian roots
        1. yustas
          yustas 15 May 2013 07: 19
          0
          Quote: WS
          Stalin, as you recall, was called Asian, but he seems to be a Georgian with Abkhazian roots

          Yeah, it’s like Beria was arranging the genocide, but everyone forgot that he was not quite Russian. a comfortable position, as it were =) may sue Georgia, because we were oppressed .. =)))
          1. carbofo
            carbofo 15 May 2013 16: 03
            0
            Quote: yustas
            maybe a lawsuit against Georgia, because we were oppressed .. =)))

            Well, if for fun, blame the Georgians for the Russian genocide in 1937
            there are about 3 million victims, they will like it :)
  7. vilenich
    vilenich 14 May 2013 07: 56
    +4
    Request to the author!
    Quote more correctly, and then from the quote:
    Remember the words of Churchill. If Russia does not see that Georgia has the power to defend itself, and the support of NATO, it will simply swallow Georgia

    it’s hard to imagine that Shashkin refers to a phrase attributed to Churchill:
    "It is naive to believe that Russia respects anything but power."
    1. ed65b
      ed65b 14 May 2013 09: 09
      +5
      And it’s even harder to believe that Churchill was thinking about Georgia.
    2. carbofo
      carbofo 15 May 2013 11: 15
      0
      The funny thing is that we don’t really care whether the country is strong or not, we don’t take the country just like that, the Caucasus was conquered partly in order to stop the raids and cover up Georgia.
      In other words, it is a provoked expansion.
      In the vast majority of cases, many countries independently provoked us to seize, while the enemy’s strength did not matter, for hundreds of years we could not pay attention to small and not very territories that did not bother us with cross-border problems or had no strategic meaning.
      At the same time, I do not recall that there would be problems for the people regarding life within the Empire, at least not a single people would disappear from the map of the Empire, except in cases of complete assimilation.
      1. yustas
        yustas 15 May 2013 11: 19
        +1
        Quote: carbofo
        The funny thing is that we don’t really care whether the country is strong or not, we don’t take the country just like that, the Caucasus was conquered partly in order to stop the raids and cover up Georgia.
        In other words, it is a provoked expansion.
        In the vast majority of cases, many countries independently provoked us to seize, while the enemy’s strength did not matter, for hundreds of years we could not pay attention to small and not very territories that did not bother us with cross-border problems or had no strategic meaning.
        At the same time, I do not recall that there would be problems for the people regarding life within the Empire, at least not a single people would disappear from the map of the Empire, except in cases of complete assimilation.

        +1, and the peoples of these countries in our history have occupied oh what political places.
        in general, as they say, who would cry. they would be brought to us in Siberia in the days of the USSR from Georgia, Lithuania, Latvia and other republics to Siberia to see how we lived here ...
  8. Denis_SF
    Denis_SF 14 May 2013 08: 05
    +3
    hints at the "goodwill" that the Georgian army demonstrated by order of Saakashvili in August 2008

    And then she ran at the speed of light dropping feces.
    "Army" - read "Chorus".
    1. Old_kapitan
      Old_kapitan 14 May 2013 14: 56
      +2
      And then she ran at the speed of light dropping feces.
      "Army" - read "Chorus".

      ZADORNOV: Well, what am I going to do, I just don't know! You know, when Georgia was very afraid of the Turks, they asked Russia to protect them. I say at my concerts ... I said ten years ago: "There will be no army in Georgia - it will have a choir." NATO members are mistaken, they will dress Georgia, but it will be a choir in NATO uniform.
  9. igordok
    igordok 14 May 2013 08: 42
    +4
    Geographically - Georgia in Asia. The fact that they are allowed to sing at the Eurovision Song Contest is not a reason to think of themselves as Europe, all the more as "enlightened Europe".
  10. fenix57
    fenix57 14 May 2013 08: 54
    +5
    Yes, not for nothing in Georgia they want to legalize marijuana. Smoke and ... a hare in the hop. laughing
  11. pensioner
    pensioner 14 May 2013 08: 59
    +3
    Someone made: to be a sloppy Georgian = to climb into a geyropu with a bare booty. I'm sorry. But after 08.08.08. they just infuriate me. Well, at least I was later told something by people who were there. Slightly calmed down. We do not live with them more in friendship and harmony. Do not live.
  12. ed65b
    ed65b 14 May 2013 09: 14
    +4
    Shashkin is gay. Surname sold. For him there is nothing sacred at all except grandmas. He and Sahak will sell only pay more. He is a piece of soap, and it may be sha ntsy and Shashkinbaev, etc. Scum. Skillful comrade was a Jewish weight lifter a very promising athlete. In Uzbekistan, he took everything he could, but they didn’t let out internationally, they said the name was changed to Uzbek, so Grisha said that never, this is my ancestral history and I won’t betray her.
  13. Standard Oil
    Standard Oil 14 May 2013 09: 16
    +3
    All the same, more words will not go further, many Georgians have already seen Russian tanks near their house, they will not want to watch this "show" anymore. They will gawk from the booth, but they will not come out anymore.
    1. pensioner
      pensioner 14 May 2013 09: 27
      +1
      Quote: Standard Oil
      They will bark from the booth, but will not come out anymore.

      You noticed it very well. Yes, and in the booth, the tail will be running out.
  14. YaRusich
    YaRusich 14 May 2013 09: 16
    +8
    Quote: retired
    We do not live with them more in friendship and harmony. Do not live.

    Well, why, fools do not live there either, just freaks and bastards (like Saakashvilli) need to be crushed in the bud and not given power. Together, the fascists were hollowed and no one asked you Georgians or Russian. They just have to understand themselves that we need to be friends, because it’s unlikely that they will be shining from amers.
    1. pensioner
      pensioner 14 May 2013 10: 37
      +2
      Quote: YaRusich
      Together, the fascists were hollowed and no one asked you Georgians or Russian.


      So Yes. But when was that? Can you imagine what has grown there over 25 years? Nothing good. Fascism is growing well on the basis of plentifully fertilized by nationalism. And that’s it.
  15. Withoutdream
    Withoutdream 14 May 2013 09: 18
    +2
    Another pre-election blah blah blah. I doubt very much that the Saakashvil gang itself believes in what it says to the public. They say what they pay for. The moral side of the issue, in this case, is not even taken into account by them.
  16. nevopros
    nevopros 14 May 2013 09: 28
    +2
    Here nstarikov.ru/blog/25279 interesting.
    1. radio operator
      radio operator 14 May 2013 10: 59
      +2
      “The Jackal is one of the most terrible insults in the Caucasus. Because the inherent meanness and cowardice deprive the representative of the human race of the right to be called a man. And there is some kind of higher justice in that not the Ossetians, not the Russians, not the UN Human Rights Council, but the Georgians themselves, at last, called Mikheil Saakashvili to account.

      Good phrase from the Starikov blog you cited.
      1. Gari
        Gari 14 May 2013 12: 07
        0
        The beginning of the war from beginning to end is on Saakashvili's neck, "Burjanadze said.
        Former Speaker of the Georgian Parliament, leader of the opposition "Democratic Movement" United Georgia "Nino Burjanadze said on Monday that President Mikheil Saakashvili should be convicted for last year's war in South Ossetia, according to the VZGLYAD newspaper correspondent in Tbilisi." The beginning of the war from beginning to end on Saakashvili's neck, - she said. -
  17. dark_65
    dark_65 14 May 2013 09: 36
    +1
    Recently, doubts have plagued me, who is the first in political prostitution: Ukraine, or Georgia, so far, the sympathies like the spectator of this shed are evenly divided ...
    Your opinion?
    1. pensioner
      pensioner 14 May 2013 12: 00
      +2
      Quote: dark_65
      Your opinion?

      I bet on Georgia.
      1. Naval
        Naval 14 May 2013 21: 34
        0
        Your opinion?
        Of course, Rodents, in Ukraine, at least 50% of the population is friendly towards Russia, and even more, with the exception of Galicia and a small layer of nationalists.
      2. yustas
        yustas 15 May 2013 07: 23
        0
        +1 vote for Georgia, or anything personal, just the president you have
  18. Semyon Albertovich
    Semyon Albertovich 14 May 2013 09: 43
    +1
    "The train has left" - the Georgian elite is unlikely to feed on anti-Russian rhetoric for a long time.
    1. mocxari
      mocxari 14 May 2013 10: 40
      17 th
      As long as Russia occupies 18% of the territory of Georgia, the entire Georgian elite will be anti-Russian, because we Georgian people will be anti-Russian and will not allow the arrival of russophile traitors in power (there are very few Koikhs).
      1. seller trucks
        seller trucks 14 May 2013 11: 48
        +8
        well, without Georgian love, Russia will somehow survive, but honestly, about birds
      2. ultra
        ultra 14 May 2013 15: 25
        +2
        Quote: mocxari
        the whole Georgian elite will be anti-Russian, because we Georgian people will be anti-Russian

        IMHO-US IT'S ON THE DRUM! soldier
      3. luka095
        luka095 14 May 2013 22: 05
        0
        And here is our "truth-lover" critic. Looks like you're getting paid on a piece rate? Or are you on a salary?
        Colleagues, I am sure this "truth-lover" critic will annoy everyone with his numerous comments on this article. Written with errors, categorically, disrespectful to opponents ... This is the style.
        Do not enter into a discussion with him! It must be overlooked.
  19. mocxari
    mocxari 14 May 2013 10: 55
    15 th
    But generally, the Russians scold MN Saakashvili is a loyal indicator that he is a patriot of his homeland, and that he did everything right in relations with the Russian Federation.
    The main thing that he managed to achieve is that during his reign a new generation has grown up who is alien to Russia, who will focus only on NATO and the EU and for whom no Russian concessions are acceptable, because Western civilization is mentally close to them but Russia in no way, so now be pro-Russian in Georgia, everyone is ashamed, even those units that are loyal to the Russian Federation aloud refuse this.
    1. Geokingxnumx
      Geokingxnumx 14 May 2013 11: 14
      11
      Quote: mocxari
      MN Saakashvili is a loyal indicator that he is a patriot of his homeland,

    2. baton140105
      baton140105 14 May 2013 11: 24
      +7
      More stars))))))))) Then you will come to you and everyone confesses in love, and curses the sakashka))) Including the "new generation" whose parents, whatever one may say, are "old generation" with no the worst memories of Russia and the USSR. I have never met a frank negative, even when I spoke Ossetian in the center of Tbilisi. Not all of you are frostbitten (like ours) and GLORY TO GOD !!
    3. Withoutdream
      Withoutdream 14 May 2013 11: 25
      +7
      Who is close to Western civilization? Georgia? You are a Losers citizen, you probably did not study history at all. First of all, what do you mean by the concept of "Western civilization"? I dare to assume that America? I assure you that the American "Western civilization" is the Indians with their rich ancient culture, and not the former gnawed colony of the English throne, which first destroyed the Indians and seized their territories, and now, with its inherent greed, is trying to grab the territory of a weaker people, or to plant your own government if you can't grab it. So, are the Indians closer to you in spirit than Russia? Or do you mean by "Western civilization" Europe? Would you like to say that your colorful southerner-Georgian is similar in spirit to an English lord or a French romantic, a Spanish bullfighter? Where did you find the connection between Georgia "Western civilization" You would at least argue for a change. Otherwise, "Western civilization is close to us," but there are no arguments.
    4. dc120mm
      dc120mm 14 May 2013 12: 02
      14
      sad Do you live in Georgia? How can one talk about Saakashvili as a patrite?
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        1. Containers
          Containers 14 May 2013 21: 55
          -1
          Has Russia always been hostile to Georgia? Business ...
        2. Gecko
          Gecko 14 May 2013 22: 12
          0
          Himself so ...
    5. pensioner
      pensioner 14 May 2013 12: 06
      +4
      Quote: mocxari
      But generally, the Russians scold MN Saakashvili is a loyal indicator that he is a patriot of his homeland, and that he did everything right in relations with the Russian Federation.
      The main thing that he managed to achieve is that during his reign a new generation has grown up who is alien to Russia, who will focus only on NATO and the EU and for whom no Russian concessions are acceptable, because Western civilization is mentally close to them but Russia in no way, so now be pro-Russian in Georgia, everyone is ashamed, even those units that are loyal to the Russian Federation aloud refuse this.

      I am bleeding! and you asked Nata and the EU: are they aware that you are guided by them? It will be funny: orientated, orientated, but orientated ...
      1. mocxari
        mocxari 14 May 2013 12: 21
        -9
        Yes, in the know, and in 2014, Georgia is likely to become a candidate for accession (MAP), this is the last step before membership.
        1. pensioner
          pensioner 14 May 2013 18: 55
          +2
          Quote: mocxari
          Yes, in the course and in 2014 Georgia is likely to become a candidate for accession (MAP), this is the last step before membership

          Oh well. And you won’t believe it! My nuno means more than your hopes. And I am so .... I’ll survive you again. I’ll look ... And I’ll drive a peg in you (you know where). In the Urals there are a hundred ooooh ...
          1. yustas
            yustas 15 May 2013 07: 27
            +1
            Quote: retired
            In the Urals there are a hundred ooooh ...

            So if it’s not enough, we’ll throw it from Siberia =)
            1. pensioner
              pensioner 15 May 2013 08: 26
              +1
              Quote: yustas
              So if it’s not enough, we’ll throw it from Siberia =)

              Not. Your size is too big. For amers save.
              1. yustas
                yustas 15 May 2013 08: 32
                0
                Quote: retired
                Not. Your size is too big. For amers save.

                Well, their government is pulling in a geyropu, let them train, but we have enough for amers if they want ... we are kind and not greedy.
                Gruzinov is sorry, the people are mostly kind (at least they were), but they were not lucky a little.
        2. Naval
          Naval 14 May 2013 21: 43
          +1
          Hopefully, countries with unresolved territorial problems will not be admitted to NATO. That’s the dilemma of recognizing the independence of new states and joining NATO, or demanding de-occupation and licking their lips secretly.
        3. Containers
          Containers 14 May 2013 21: 56
          +1
          For information - a state that has unresolved territorial disputes can only enter into the city.
    6. Shkodnik65
      Shkodnik65 14 May 2013 12: 19
      +3
      ... during his reign, a new generation has grown up which is alien to Russia, which will focus only on NATO and the EU ...

      Yes, no question, dear !!!! Values, so values ​​!!! Only, chur, all in full and from the very beginning. And at the very beginning, your values ​​have geyparads, marriages of pid .... owls, parental control, foster families for children to denounce ... Well, there is still a lot of good. You can ... tear the German cross, but I will not believe in life that the Georgian people, which I VERY respect, agreed to this. But Saakashvili first put your americos and now they handed over, a tie to him ... tongue
      1. mocxari
        mocxari 14 May 2013 12: 28
        -7
        Nothing, nothing, we ourselves will understand what and how without you, this does not concern you in any way.
        1. ultra
          ultra 14 May 2013 15: 30
          +2
          Quote: mocxari
          Nothing, nothing, we ourselves will understand what and how without you, this does not concern you in any way.

          Good luck! hi
          1. pensioner
            pensioner 14 May 2013 18: 34
            +1
            Quote: ultra
            Quote: mocxari
            Nothing, nothing, we ourselves will understand what and how without you, this does not concern you in any way.

            Good luck! hi

            And in the last ...
        2. pensioner
          pensioner 14 May 2013 18: 58
          +1
          Quote: mocxari
          it does not touch you in any way.

          No one can get me so creative as you. But not "sideways"but have not tried boxing? Of course not! And I understand you (a rare case) ...
    7. yanus
      yanus 14 May 2013 12: 23
      13
      Quote: mocxari
      But generally, the Russians scold MN Saakashvili is a loyal indicator that he is a patriot of his homeland, and that he did everything right in relations with the Russian Federation.

      Russians do not blame Saakashvili. Everything is much sadder. They laugh at him)))
      1. hommer
        hommer 14 May 2013 23: 07
        +3
        Quote: yanus
        Russians do not blame Saakashvili. Everything is much sadder. They laugh at him)))



        Caucasian headless necktie (Saakashwilis vulgaris)
        Biologists attribute this funny animal to the order of rodents, the genocide family. Russian and Western scientists were divided in a dispute over the usefulness of this animal. If most biologists in the West consider a tie-eater a rare and very useful species, which is definitely subject to care and protection, then their Russian colleagues attribute the animal to dangerous, and, most importantly, very poorly predictable pests.
        For the proper upbringing of this animal, it, after birth in its endemic region, must learn and find a mate for the production of small tie-eaters in the West.
        The behavior of this beast is very unusual - among other rodents, he is very bold and arrogant, but when a large representative of another species appears, loses his temper and tries to escape to his mink, no matter how far from it at the moment. It is this feature of rapid running, as well as some inadequacy of his thinking that determined the appearance of the word “headlong” in the name of the animal. Russian scientists really want to find out whether a tie-eater can reproduce in captivity, but their European and American colleagues are opposed to such a bold experiment, offering our specialists better practice at the collider.
        If this animal notices a drop in the interest of other rodents, it can begin to genocide anyone in a particularly cynical form. It is for this peculiarity of behavior that Russian experts attribute the tie-eater to dangerous pests. Since Western scientists do not often have to observe this animal in its natural habitat, they treat this fact with some distrust.
        Of the animals close to this species, one can also mention the muzzle of the Dnieper Dnieper, full of twin duck-billed and spratofashiks of the Baltic.
        1. pensioner
          pensioner 15 May 2013 08: 33
          0
          !!!! How could I not have noticed such a pearl yesterday! Super! Hommer! There are no words !!!
    8. spd2001
      spd2001 14 May 2013 12: 37
      +4
      Wait, guys, whom Russia is alien to. After Syria, the Turks will come to you, and there yourself ask for help. We have already passed such a scheme. History must be taught and respected so that the same rake is not stepped on twice. Focus on NATO, it will correct your orientation. And Georgia will never be in the EU, because it has no geographical relationship to Europe. We do not need some Georgians to love us, but time will make you respect Russia.
      1. mocxari
        mocxari 14 May 2013 12: 48
        14 th
        Quote: spd2001
        but time will make you respect Russia.

        Nobody respects you, not we, and not even those who are considered allies of yours, because everyone knows your word has no value, but in order to achieve its goal, they are ready for any abomination.
        They have never, never been respected and respected.
        1. Lopatov
          Lopatov 14 May 2013 12: 51
          10
          Our word has no price because it is not bought. And yours has. In the bucks. We did not give a damn about the Dagomys agreements.
          1. Geokingxnumx
            Geokingxnumx 14 May 2013 14: 50
            0
            Quote: Spade
            Our word has no price because it is not bought. And yours has. In the bucks. We did not give a damn about the Dagomys agreements.

            better not talk about this agreement and its correct name is the Sochi agreement
            1. Lopatov
              Lopatov 14 May 2013 18: 53
              0
              somehow they were violated by you
        2. pensioner
          pensioner 14 May 2013 13: 08
          +4
          Quote: mocxari
          They have never, never been respected and respected.

          You must have understood after a long and gloomy study of your passport ...
        3. spd2001
          spd2001 14 May 2013 13: 11
          +1
          I repeat, I understand that sometimes you need to repeat twice (and sometimes two is not enough). Time will put all the points over Y. God forbid you to not experience this on yourself, so that it would not be doubly offensive.
        4. spd2001
          spd2001 14 May 2013 13: 44
          +1
          But this is what your authorities are doing right - http://www.newsazerbaijan.ru/exclusive/20070723/41849649.html
          No need to resist, tolerant Europe has been waiting for you already. Direct road to the EU as part of Turkey. Bon Voyage! Do not forget to relax so that it does not hurt. P.S. I would have given a lot for watching the first Caucasian gay pride parade in Tbilisi, but God forbid to be somewhere close to this action.
        5. yanus
          yanus 14 May 2013 14: 39
          0
          Quote: mocxari

          Nobody respects you, not we, and not even those who are considered allies of yours, because everyone knows your word has no value, but in order to achieve its goal, they are ready for any abomination.
          They have never, never been respected and respected.

          Civilization seems to have reached Georgia. The first batch of mirrors was brought there. They look at themselves, share their impressions.
        6. carbofo
          carbofo 14 May 2013 17: 06
          +1
          Quote: mocxari
          and in order to achieve their goal, they are ready for any abomination.
          They have never, never been respected and respected.

          Well, well, that’s probably what we shot the Georgian border outpost from the MLRS at night.
          In your country, in general, there are normal mushrooms, otherwise your adequacy is doubtful.
        7. Gecko
          Gecko 14 May 2013 22: 14
          0
          Yes you are famous jackals. Bear respect from the jackal - a bunch.
    9. Andrey57
      Andrey57 14 May 2013 13: 22
      +4
      Go learn Russian before yapping on a Russian-language site. And the fact that a whole generation has been raised in Georgia in hatred of Russia, we will quite survive in Russia, and we will also know that if you stick around, you will need to pound in full so that not only Mishiko ate his ties, but everyone else lovers to start war.
      1. dark_65
        dark_65 14 May 2013 18: 51
        0
        You don’t need to drive such people, keep them under supervision so that the new Mishiko does not grow up, as he enters into adulthood, immediately press the eggs with the doors, and then to hell with them, knights in donkey skins.
    10. igordok
      igordok 14 May 2013 13: 22
      +3
      Quote: mocxari
      And generally, the Russians scold MN Saakashvili is a loyal indicator that he is a patriot of his homeland,

      They do not scold him. They laugh at him. smile
    11. carbofo
      carbofo 14 May 2013 16: 59
      +2
      Quote: mocxari
      the fact that he is a patriot of his homeland, and that according to the relations of the Russian Federation he did everything right.

      A person who, by order of the United States, kills his own people, cannot be a patriot by definition.
    12. dark_65
      dark_65 14 May 2013 18: 47
      +1
      Do you really think so? Or a "tolerant" opinion?
      I was always interested in people who were in the eyes .... and they hu..yu ,.
      I respected Kikabidze before, now I would not have extended my hands.
      The people of Georgia made a choice, their right, sympathy is hardly worthy.
      In addition to all rulers, there must be brains.
      The main thing that he managed to achieve is that during his reign a new generation grew up which Russia is alien to, and this is scary, not for us, and not for us ... for the generation.
  20. knn54
    knn54 14 May 2013 11: 06
    +4
    mocxari: that under his rule, a new generation has grown up which is alien to Russia, which will focus only on NATO and the EU ...
    There is no Georgia since 1991, now it is Georgia!
    1. mocxari
      mocxari 14 May 2013 12: 07
      -8
      Georgia is Georgia in English, so call at least Georgia at least Georgia, everything is exactly the same.
      1. seller trucks
        seller trucks 14 May 2013 12: 12
        +6
        Ie in English Georgians is georgy?
        1. mocxari
          mocxari 14 May 2013 12: 19
          0
          georgian i.e. georgian
          1. Vodrak
            Vodrak 14 May 2013 20: 37
            0
            Well, there is "Dom-2", why not be "Georgia-2". Apparently it's still a reality show ...
      2. Garrin
        Garrin 14 May 2013 12: 14
        0
        Quote: mocxari
        Georgia is Georgia in English, so call at least Georgia at least Georgia, everything is exactly the same.

        And I like it more - Iveria or Kartli.
      3. pensioner
        pensioner 14 May 2013 12: 16
        0
        Quote: mocxari
        all exactly one

        g.no
        1. mocxari
          mocxari 14 May 2013 12: 26
          -1
          Is that you about yourself? winked
          1. pensioner
            pensioner 14 May 2013 13: 10
            +2
            Quote: mocxari
            Is that you about yourself?

            Could about myself. But it doesn’t work out. The term is busy.
            1. mocxari
              mocxari 14 May 2013 13: 54
              -8
              By whom? Putin took, or Medvedev?
              Nothing is enough for you either.
              1. pensioner
                pensioner 14 May 2013 14: 28
                +2
                Quote: mocxari
                By whom? Putin took, or Medvedev?

                So you already managed to patent it. You will take it from you now. how ...
  21. Goblin 28
    Goblin 28 14 May 2013 11: 59
    +6
    Quote: mocxari
    But generally, the Russians scold MN Saakashvili is a loyal indicator that he is a patriot of his homeland, and that he did everything right in relations with the Russian Federation.
    The main thing that he managed to achieve is that during his reign a new generation has grown up who is alien to Russia, who will focus only on NATO and the EU and for whom no Russian concessions are acceptable, because Western civilization is mentally close to them but Russia in no way, so now be pro-Russian in Georgia, everyone is ashamed, even those units that are loyal to the Russian Federation aloud refuse this.


    Then, according to the logic and rules of the "Western" civilization you so loved, Russia had to destroy 19/9 Georgians in the 10th century after Georgia was admitted to the Empire, and drive the remaining 1/10 to a reservation. And to populate the vacated territory with Russians. And where would your new "Western" generation be now, in what place?
    Georgians have always hated us and will hate us. Nobody needs their friendship! And for the United States you are the same Indians, only Georgian. Yusovskiy instructors call you that now. Read
    1. mocxari
      mocxari 14 May 2013 12: 23
      -7
      Your gut is thin, otherwise you would have done so with pleasure.
      And we do not have hatred for you, most likely pity.
      1. seller trucks
        seller trucks 14 May 2013 12: 35
        +1
        Yes? Well, the guys from the Vostok battalion are not very sentimental, they will quickly bring constitutional order
        1. Lopatov
          Lopatov 14 May 2013 12: 39
          0
          No more "battalion Vostok"
          1. seller trucks
            seller trucks 14 May 2013 12: 53
            +1
            this is not the point, with all our "shoals", the conflict proved that the Georgians are worthless warriors, and the fact that the troops were stopped is a completely different story, and the status of the Russian base is no longer peacekeeping, plus the s-300

            By the way, after the disbandment of w / n "Z" and "V" they became part of the 42nd Guards Motorized Rifle Evpatoria Red Banner Division
            1. mocxari
              mocxari 14 May 2013 12: 57
              -7
              The conflict proved that Russia is not able to achieve its goal, you did not succeed in de-sovereignizing Georgia and changing the regime, as Putin declared, in the above privacy of the Georgian armed forces and international pressure plus from entering the 6th fleet in Georgia.
              1. Lopatov
                Lopatov 14 May 2013 13: 01
                +4
                It depends on what goals. There was no purpose to plant you again on your neck. Secured Abkhazia and South Ossetia, and that's enough.
                1. mocxari
                  mocxari 14 May 2013 13: 58
                  -6
                  Well, I don’t know, “Great” Pu himself said that he would hang Saakashvili for one place, Lavrov stood up for the “change regime”, and suddenly the 6th fleet entered and everyone forgot about it, so the goal was the complete occupation of Georgia and the establishment of a puppet government which your leaders have failed to achieve.
                  1. Lopatov
                    Lopatov 14 May 2013 14: 26
                    +6
                    And who said he would not hang? Putin he is, he said, will do.

                    By the way, where did the 6th Fleet go? He is stationed in the Mediterranean on a permanent basis. It looks like you are writing a new story on the go about how the United States forced Russia to stop. In fact, one American ship passed through the straits after the end of hostilities.

                    Russia has completely and completely fulfilled its task.
              2. seller trucks
                seller trucks 14 May 2013 13: 13
                +1
                Quote: mocxari
                The conflict proved that Russia is not able to achieve its goals


                Yes? Saakashvili said this, the main task of the RA was to maintain control over the Roki Tunnel, and not to overthrow the regime in Tbilisi.
                1. mocxari
                  mocxari 14 May 2013 13: 59
                  -4
                  Bullshit, he didn't say that.
                  1. seller trucks
                    seller trucks 14 May 2013 14: 17
                    +4
                    delirium, in your heads, I'm telling you this. Russia retained its presence in the Caucasus, the threat of shelling was eliminated, the main accumulations of equipment were destroyed, the Georgian fleet was sunk, Sabakashvili got crap and ate his tie. And also the betrayal of Medvedev who signed the "Sarkozy Plan"
              3. pensioner
                pensioner 14 May 2013 18: 50
                +1
                Quote: mocxari
                The conflict proved that Russia is not able to achieve its goals, you did not succeed in de-sovereignizing Georgia and changing the regime as Putin announced,

                If you, down (d..b.lu doesn’t let the filter through) want so much better, then rejoice. Think at your leisure. Why am I glad? Let me tell you the answer: strangers uncles decided: Georgia (do you like to call yourself that?) Let it be independent for now (like - let them think so, independent). For the most stupid I write: BYE.
              4. zvereok
                zvereok 14 May 2013 20: 10
                +2
                A ship with diapers (6 fleet) arrived in Georgia to provide personal hygiene items, heroically escaping, throwing weapons and equipment (resisting) to the Georgian army.
                1. pensioner
                  pensioner 14 May 2013 21: 02
                  0
                  Quote: zvereok
                  Ship with diapers

                  Ne. Caravan.
                  1. zvereok
                    zvereok 15 May 2013 00: 06
                    +1
                    Quote: retired
                    Quote: zvereok
                    Ship with diapers

                    Ne. Caravan.



                    Like the Turks launched only one ship.
                2. Naval
                  Naval 14 May 2013 21: 53
                  +2
                  Pampers, a very important thing in the Georgian army, otherwise dirtied all the way to Tbilisi.
        2. mocxari
          mocxari 14 May 2013 12: 44
          -4
          Russia, 140 million, hopes for Chechens from the Vostok battalion, which has long been gone. belay
          P.S. You be more careful so that one day these Chechens with whom you want to "frighten" us will not turn their weapons against you as it was in 1994.
          1. Lopatov
            Lopatov 14 May 2013 12: 53
            +3
            But there are two motorized rifle brigades. In the countries bordering Georgia, Abkhazia and South Ossetia. Here we hope for them.
          2. seller trucks
            seller trucks 14 May 2013 13: 03
            0
            Quote: mocxari
            140 million Russia hopes for Chechens from the "Vostok" battalion which has long been gone


            in South Ossetia 4-I Guards. Russian military base in military unit 66431, Tskhinval, genatsvale
            1. mocxari
              mocxari 14 May 2013 14: 07
              -6
              This essence does not change; the status quo has been established; the Russian Federation is unable / unable to touch Georgia with its finger (no matter how much they would like to), and Georgia is still not in a good condition to return 18% of the territory.
              This is obvious to everyone except for stoned NTV, ORT and so on.
              1. MVS
                MVS 14 May 2013 14: 18
                +4
                Quote: mocxari
                Russia cannot touch Georgia with a finger / not capable (no matter how they would like)

                Well, of course, otherwise heroic amers will come and disperse all with clubs laughing
                Almost everyone who returned to our side of the mountains brought with them the captured Georgian flags. Your army is nothing. She threw everything when our sun appeared. And the sixth fleet - why it will not help return territories to you. Or is he just a big target?
                Quote: mocxari
                not yet in a state.

                Will never be able to.
                1. mocxari
                  mocxari 14 May 2013 15: 16
                  -3
                  Quote: MVS

                  Well, of course, otherwise heroic amers will come and disperse all with clubs

                  No, they don’t need clubs, your rulers understand well that you don’t have to play with the United States, or they will get it by Bosko, so it will do without clubs as it was in 2008, as soon as the 6th fleet entered the same place the Russian Armed Forces stopped the offensive.
                  1. carbofo
                    carbofo 14 May 2013 17: 28
                    +3
                    Quote: mocxari
                    you don’t have to play with the United States, or they’ll get it in Bosko, so it’ll do without clubs as it was in 2008, as soon as the 6th fleet entered the same place the Russian Armed Forces stopped the offensive.

                    No need to say what you want to believe, by the time when someone swam somewhere, we had already dispersed your entire army in the corners, and drowned your entire khmm (Navy).
                    There was no task to conquer; no one needs you or your territory.
                    She is strong to know about a pug, as she barks at an elephant.
                  2. MVS
                    MVS 14 May 2013 19: 58
                    0
                    Quote: mocxari

                    No, they don’t need clubs, your rulers understand well that you don’t have to play with the United States, or they will get it by Bosko, so it will do without clubs as it was in 2008, as soon as the 6th fleet entered the same place the Russian Armed Forces stopped the offensive.

                    And why did the US, having such a "powerful" instrument of pressure on the Russian Federation in the region, not force us to withdraw its troops from Abkhazia and South Ossetia? Or are they themselves afraid to get the full program?
              2. Lopatov
                Lopatov 14 May 2013 14: 28
                +1
                Why touch you with a finger?
              3. seller trucks
                seller trucks 14 May 2013 14: 28
                +5
                Quote: mocxari
                , The Russian Federation can’t / isn’t able to touch Georgia with a finger (as if they wouldn’t)


                Georgians can sleep peacefully, because, on .... they do not need anyone, well, they will turn up and get again on an impudent bread. by the way, I don’t like NTV or ORT, don’t look, for example, I don’t watch, I have enough clowns on the Internet
              4. ultra
                ultra 14 May 2013 15: 37
                +4
                Quote: mocxari
                Well, Georgia is still not in a condition to return 18% of the territory.

                The word "yet" is not appropriate here. The word NEVER is more appropriate! soldier
              5. zvereok
                zvereok 14 May 2013 20: 15
                +1
                "The Russian Federation cannot / cannot touch Georgia with a finger (no matter how much they want to)"

                There are two wise thoughts: 1. Do not touch shit will not stink. 2. Georgia is so elusive because nafig nobody needs it.
      2. Lopatov
        Lopatov 14 May 2013 12: 40
        +2
        Do you regret that you did not finish the job?
      3. pensioner
        pensioner 14 May 2013 18: 39
        +1
        Quote: mocxari
        Your gut is thin

        Since we have switched to anatomy (sorry, you first started), then it’s wider than yours ... it doesn’t happen. And if you want to Europe, you continue to calibrate it, calibrate it. And for the future. Don't you sonny compete with me old in wit. go buy it in a sex shop. x ... th sell out!
    2. MVS
      MVS 14 May 2013 13: 29
      +3
      Quote: Leshy 28

      Then, according to the logic and rules of the "Western" civilization you so loved, Russia had to destroy 19/9 Georgians in the 10th century after Georgia was admitted to the Empire, and drive the remaining 1/10 to a reservation. And to populate the vacated territory with Russians. And where would your new "Western" generation be now, in what place?
      Georgians have always hated us and will hate us. Nobody needs their friendship! And for the United States you are the same Indians, only Georgian. Yusovskiy instructors call you that now. Read

      Why destroy yourself? You could wait until the Turks did it.
  22. Stiletto
    Stiletto 14 May 2013 12: 04
    +3
    Quote: mocxari
    But generally, the Russians scold MN Saakashvili is a loyal indicator that he is a patriot of his homeland, and that he did everything right in relations with the Russian Federation.



    Why are you there, all the ties are overeating ?!
  23. dc120mm
    dc120mm 14 May 2013 12: 17
    10
    Karoche, Misha and his gang are already leaving, not quite quietly but painlessly.

    Soon (more precisely, after the Olympics) a real normalization of Georgian-Russian relations will begin.

    PS Yesterday in Afghanistan there was an attack by the Taliban at the Georgian base, 3 people were killed, about 20 were wounded. The sooner we get our guys out, the better the atom for us already ...
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      1. Yarbay
        Yarbay 14 May 2013 13: 00
        13
        Quote: mocxari
        1.კარგი რა, რეებს წერ?

        Dear, could you write in Russian!
        If you have something to say to your fellow countryman, then write in his face, or how is it impolite and disrespectful to discuss something in a language that others do not know or you have not been taught this?
        1. ultra
          ultra 14 May 2013 15: 38
          +1
          Quote: Yarbay
          Dear, could you write in Russian!

          good good good
        2. Misantrop
          Misantrop 14 May 2013 16: 05
          +8
          Quote: Yarbay
          could you write in Russian!

          Alas. To do this, you need to be able to read on it. Several boobies of the same nation not so long ago tried to rob the city police department in Odessa in the middle of the day, mistaking it for a rich mansion. When shocked cops asked if they had read what was written at the entrance, the answer was: "We cannot read Russian" (the sign was, which is typical, in the mov) laughing
      2. Check
        Check 14 May 2013 14: 19
        +1
        Mdaa ... Georgians are not the same ...
      3. yanus
        yanus 14 May 2013 15: 57
        13
        Quote: mocxari
        კარგი რა, რეებს წერ? სააკაშვილს არ გავკარი, მაგრამ ამათ გასახარად ესეთები აქ ამ "ველიკოდერჟავნიკი" ნაბოთლარების საიტზე როგორ უნდა დაწერო?
        2.თუ გგონია ამით რამე დადებითს გაუჩენ ცდები, დედიან ბუდიანად იმპერიალისტები არიან, როგორც ავტორები ისე იუზერები, ერთი განახა "დამოუკიდებელ" აფხაზეთ, "სამხრეთ ოსეთზე" როგორ სიხარულით ჭყვიტინებენ.
        ღირსების ამბავია ეგ მეტი არაფერი ......
        3.
        რუსეთთან მეგობრობის დედაც არ მოვტყან როცა ორი საუკეთესო მხარე წაღებული აქვთ.

        ისე კი რაც გინდა წერე შენი ნებაა.

        Did someone throw a plate of pasta into the monitor?
        1. Misantrop
          Misantrop 14 May 2013 16: 02
          +6
          Quote: yanus
          Did someone throw a plate of pasta into the monitor?

          What does the pasta have to do with it? This is a commercial break from drug manufacturers. Excellent anthelmintic, over there laughing
          1. pensioner
            pensioner 15 May 2013 09: 32
            0
            Quote: Misantrop
            What does the pasta have to do with it? This is a commercial break from drug manufacturers. Excellent anthelmintic, over there

            !!!!!!!!!!!!
        2. pensioner
          pensioner 15 May 2013 09: 31
          0
          Quote: yanus
          Did someone throw a plate of pasta into the monitor?


          !!!!!!!!!!
      4. pensioner
        pensioner 14 May 2013 19: 15
        +2
        Quote: mocxari
        1.კარგი რა, რეებს წერ? სააკაშვილს არ გავკარი, მაგრამ ამათ გასახარად ესეთები აქ ამ "ველიკოდერჟავნიკი" ნაბოთლარების საიტზე როგორ უნდა დაწერო?
        2.თუ გგონია ამით რამე დადებითს გაუჩენ ცდები, დედიან ბუდიანად იმპერიალისტები არიან, როგორც ავტორები ისე იუზერები, ერთი განახა "დამოუკიდებელ" აფხაზეთ, "სამხრეთ ოსეთზე" როგორ სიხარულით ჭყვიტინებენ.
        ღირსების ამბავია ეგ მეტი არაფერი ......
        3.
        რუსეთთან მეგობრობის დედაც არ მოვტყან როცა ორი საუკეთესო მხარე წაღებული აქვთ.

        ისე კი რაც გინდა წერე შენი ნებაა.


        You won't believe it. Only a full down (... again, the filter did not pass) on a Russian resource this can be posted. With the same success, in even more picturesque epithets (language allows. Heard about "great" and "mighty"?) In Russian I would explain to you what I think specifically about you and about your relatives ... then turn on your fantasy, oh which of them I thought was cooler ... And yet. Well, you can't joke. It happens. Read books. And learn. True, the books are written in Russian ... Start with Danelia. Finish Kvirikadze. Heraclius. They would have clearly explained to you: what's what. Especially Danelia ...
      5. Gecko
        Gecko 14 May 2013 22: 26
        +2
        Forget about Abkhazia and South Ossetia forever. We both gave and took away.
    2. Geokingxnumx
      Geokingxnumx 14 May 2013 13: 38
      +3
      Quote: dc120mm
      Soon (more precisely, after the Olympics) a real normalization of Georgian-Russian relations will begin.

      normalization will be, but until there is a rishon issue of conflict regions, there will be no serious relations between Russia and Georgia
      Quote: dc120mm
      PS Yesterday in Afghanistan there was an attack by the Taliban at the Georgian base, 3 people were killed, about 20 were wounded. The sooner we get our guys out, the better the atom for us already ...

      agree
      1. mocxari
        mocxari 14 May 2013 14: 12
        -6
        1. It’s good that at least understand this.
        2. I do not agree, everything goes voluntarily in Afghanistan, not like they drove guys during the USSR, they have good salaries there, etc. I don’t have it, you don’t have the right to decide for them, if they don’t want to, they don’t go, and if so, then they want it and they don’t protest. .
        1. Geokingxnumx
          Geokingxnumx 14 May 2013 14: 27
          +5
          Quote: mocxari
          I don’t agree, in Afghanistan everyone goes voluntarily, not like they drove guys during the USSR, they have good salaries there, etc. I don’t have it, you don’t have the right to decide for them, if they don’t want to, they don’t go, and if so, then they want it and they don’t protest. .

          I do not decide) I think so) you need to reduce the contingent! 1700 people is a lot! why go? Of course for money that would nokarmit family and other costs pay
          1. Yarbay
            Yarbay 14 May 2013 14: 52
            +4
            Quote: GEOKING95
            Of course for money that would nokarmit family and other costs pay

            I think against the backdrop of your fellow countryman, you will soon become the favorite of our site from Georgia)))))))))
            1. Geokingxnumx
              Geokingxnumx 14 May 2013 15: 01
              +4
              Quote: Yarbay
              I think against the backdrop of your fellow countryman, you will soon become the favorite of our site from Georgia)))))))))

              ) can be
              if I served in the Army I would go to Afghanistan for experience and interest, but when a person goes a second time and in a third, then most of them come for money!
              1. Yarbay
                Yarbay 14 May 2013 15: 29
                0
                Quote: GEOKING95
                if I served in the Army I would go to Afghanistan for experience and interest, but when a person goes a second time and in a third, then most of them come for money!

                You're right!
                And more than that, Georgia has no interest there !!
                Is that to run in their units in a combat situation !!
                Is it necessary ??
          2. mocxari
            mocxari 14 May 2013 15: 03
            -3
            Well, you answered yourself, they go kakraz voluntarily and not forcibly, while they are well aware of the risks.
            And those who howl raise, and want to take our guys out of there, just cheat, let them pay guys $ 1000-2000 a month from their pocket, then I’ll believe that they honestly do it, but from their side it’s a political struggle and nothing more.
            And the operation in Afghanistan will end in 2014, i.e. only a year is left, so to demand now to withdraw the Sun is just foolishness in my opinion.
            1. ultra
              ultra 14 May 2013 15: 41
              +1
              Quote: mocxari
              pockets guys will pay $ 1000-2000

              Well, the salary !!! For two thousand, substitute the head for bullets !!! request
              1. Geokingxnumx
                Geokingxnumx 14 May 2013 15: 52
                +5
                Quote: ultra
                Well, the salary !!! For two thousand, substitute the head for bullets !!!

                to feed the family! will pay children money for studying! then yes! What would you not do for your family?
                1. Yarbay
                  Yarbay 14 May 2013 15: 54
                  +1
                  Quote: GEOKING95
                  to feed the family! will pay children money for studying! then yes!

                  sadly!
                  1. Geokingxnumx
                    Geokingxnumx 14 May 2013 16: 03
                    +4
                    Quote: Yarbay
                    sadly!

                    highly! and the fact that 22 guy died there! (3 soldier died yesterday)
                    1. Yarbay
                      Yarbay 14 May 2013 16: 36
                      +1
                      Quote: GEOKING95
                      highly! and the fact that 22 guy died there! (3 soldier died yesterday)

                      I know read it!
                      I wish your people a peaceful sky!
                      For friends to be faithful and enemies to become friends!
                2. Seraph
                  Seraph 15 May 2013 04: 04
                  +1
                  Hmm ... but in the Union, Georgians were almost the richest. No Union - no Georgian wealth. Why is your leadership so stupid? Anyone can understand that without Russia Georgia will come a slow but sure end. Especially if Turkey realizes that you are no longer interested in us.
              2. mocxari
                mocxari 14 May 2013 15: 59
                -8
                Nothing, nothing, Russian soldiers from Angola to Manchuria turned their heads to bullets, for "world domination" and maybe for one bottle of vodka before the battle, agree $ 2 is much better.
                1. Yarbay
                  Yarbay 14 May 2013 17: 23
                  +1
                  Quote: mocxari
                  "world domination" and maybe for one bottle of vodka before the fight, agree $ 2 is much better.


                  I do not agree!
                  If the state cannot provide its citizens with a normal salary in their country and the young guys are forced to risk their lives for this amount for no reason, then the state is mildly damaging!
                2. pensioner
                  pensioner 14 May 2013 20: 42
                  0
                  Quote: mocxari
                  Nothing, nothing, Russian soldiers from Angola to Manchuria turned their heads to bullets for "world domination"


                  Agree that this is something different than dying for the schizophrenic fantasies of the head of state who does not control his fear. And where your government + prezik Georgia was financed from, you know better. These are usually called puppets. Or "sons of bitches". With the addition of "But this is OUR son of a bitch ..."
                  1. mocxari
                    mocxari 14 May 2013 22: 20
                    -1
                    Quote: retired
                    Quote: mocxari
                    Nothing, nothing, Russian soldiers from Angola to Manchuria turned their heads to bullets for "world domination"

                    Agree that this is something else

                    I agree this is something worse, this disease is called imperialism, it is treated only by cardinal methods, for the Germans two injections were needed in 1918. and 1945
                    For you, two injections of 1917. and 1991 it wasn’t enough to get a third.
              3. hommer
                hommer 14 May 2013 22: 15
                +2
                Quote: ultra
                Quote: mocxari pocket guys will pay $ 1000-2000 Well, salary !!! For two thousand, substitute the head for bullets !!!


                I agree. Some kind of madhouse.
              4. pensioner
                pensioner 15 May 2013 08: 40
                0
                Quote: ultra
                Well, the salary !!! For two thousand, substitute the head for bullets !!!

                It seems that Shura Balaganov’s requests were more serious ...
          3. pensioner
            pensioner 14 May 2013 19: 40
            0
            Quote: GEOKING95
            I do not decide) I think so) you need to reduce the contingent! 1700 people is a lot! why go? Of course for money that would nokarmit family and other costs pay

            Guys! Without flattery ... Will Ssakashvili come to the funeral of the dead "peacekeepers"? And what can he say? And will he leave them alive? That's it ... And I still remember how coffins were brought to us from Damansky in 69m. And I remember the funeral. And I remember THAT mothers screamed and how I myself cried when the elder brother of my kindergarten friend was buried. He was later given a Hero. Posthumously. A city in the North of the Urals. It is easy to find which one.
        2. Yarbay
          Yarbay 14 May 2013 14: 54
          +1
          Quote: mocxari
          . I know many who go there for the second and even third time, so do not panic.

          How not to ??)))))))))
          In your opinion, is it normal when healthy young people, the soldiers of your country, earn money by hiring money for someone ???
          No longer they can earn money in their country?
          1. mocxari
            mocxari 14 May 2013 15: 12
            -3
            Yes, it’s absolutely normal, in Afghanistan the interests of our state and our military are combined.
            The state from participating receives bonuses in the form of assistance from the allies (be it in military-technical terms, whether it is more attention to the Georgian-Russian conflict from the side of the allies), and accelerates the process of Georgia’s integration into NATO.
            And the military, which I’ll note once more, go voluntarily, get high patches, a good social and economic package, plus experience.
            1. Yarbay
              Yarbay 14 May 2013 15: 34
              +2
              Quote: mocxari
              Yes, it’s absolutely normal, in Afghanistan the interests of our state and our military are combined.

              oops))))))))))))))))))))
              and what are the interests of your state in Afghanistan?))))))))))
              You should solve your problems and protect your interests in your region !!
              Quote: mocxari
              State from participation receives bonuses in the form of assistance from allies

              Getting bonuses ??)))))))))))
              Say the payment!
              and the help would be the same if you hadn’t participated in this operation !!
              Quote: mocxari
              boosts Georgia’s integration into NATO.

              Really?))))))))))))
              and how to force ????)))) Georgia is already a candidate for joining the NATO bloc ??))))))))) Why no one knows)))))))
              and the military are forced to risk themselves for the interests of others, because the country cannot provide them with highly paid work in their country!
              1. mocxari
                mocxari 14 May 2013 15: 54
                -3
                1.Our interests are where the interests of our allies are, we get help from them, especially in the field of security, but this is not a one-way process, we are not only consumers of their help, but we deliver them our help where we can.
                2.And you don’t know if the help would be the same or not if we hadn’t participated in the operation in Afghanistan.
                3.In 2014, Georgia will most likely receive a MAP from NATO, and this is not the last place that our military will play in Afghanistan, in any case, we have no other way.
                4. The military is not forced, I have repeatedly explained to you that he goes there voluntarily and not forcibly.
                5. If you don’t know, I will say that it is our budget and no one else to pay that salary to our military, and in Georgia the military also has good salaries (by our standards, of course, not American), there are simply more in Afghanistan, that’s all.
                1. Yarbay
                  Yarbay 14 May 2013 16: 07
                  +1
                  Quote: mocxari
                  4. The military is not forced, I have repeatedly explained to you that he goes there voluntarily and not forcibly.

                  You do not understand Russian well!
                  This is forced to go for money !!
                  and everything else written by you is nonsense and nonsense of an inflamed brain!
                  1. mocxari
                    mocxari 14 May 2013 16: 13
                    -2
                    Yeah, of course since you said it will be so.
                    Well, how can one go for money voluntarily (you want to go, you want to not) you can call forced it is understandable only to you probably.
                    1. Yarbay
                      Yarbay 14 May 2013 16: 32
                      +1
                      Quote: mocxari
                      Well, how can one go for money voluntarily (you want to go, you want to not) you can call forced it is understandable only to you probably.

                      When you need money and do not go for it !!
                    2. Yarbay
                      Yarbay 14 May 2013 17: 26
                      +2
                      Quote: mocxari
                      Yeah, of course since you said it will be so.

                      you don’t poke me boy!
                      I didn’t drink with you!
                2. seller trucks
                  seller trucks 14 May 2013 16: 13
                  +1
                  reluctantly, your allies lay their heads for the ideas of democracy, in fact, why, there is fresh "cannon fodder" from Georgia and Ukraine, which will do it for "beads". well done.
            2. ultra
              ultra 14 May 2013 15: 43
              +3
              Quote: mocxari
              Yes, absolutely normal. In Afghanistan, the interests of our state are combined.

              I fell out of a chair !!! Georgia has interests in Afghanistan, what !!! lol
              1. Yarbay
                Yarbay 14 May 2013 15: 59
                +4
                Quote: ultra
                I fell out of a chair !!! Georgia has interests in Afghanistan, which ones !!

                You absolutely do not understand geopolitics, however, apparently, like me !!!))))))))))))))))))))
                Probably, Georgia is taking control of Afghan oil !!))
                1. mocxari
                  mocxari 14 May 2013 16: 04
                  -3
                  Sorry, you have a big problem with humor, Comrade Tatar.
                  1. hommer
                    hommer 14 May 2013 22: 22
                    +2
                    Quote: mocxari
                    Sorry, you have a big problem with humor, Comrade Tatar.

                    Now, Yarbay has already become a Tatar laughing

                    Sorry, but you have big vision problems.
                    Or with knowledge?
                    1. Yarbay
                      Yarbay 14 May 2013 22: 44
                      +1
                      Quote: hommer
                      Now, Yarbay has already become a Tatar

                      Well, in this he is right somewhere))))
                      The fact is that we were called Azerbaijanis in Tsarist Russia by Tatars or Muslims! I think they were afraid to call Turks!
                      The term Azerbaijani appeared after the revolution!
                      1. hommer
                        hommer 14 May 2013 23: 46
                        +1
                        I don’t think he knew that!
                      2. Geokingxnumx
                        Geokingxnumx 15 May 2013 00: 58
                        +1
                        Quote: hommer
                        I don’t think he knew that!

                        and we were called Tatars, after the Mongol invasion of Georgia
                  2. yustas
                    yustas 15 May 2013 08: 20
                    +1
                    Quote: hommer
                    Sorry, but you have big vision problems.
                    Or with knowledge?

                    Here it is more likely with a head, and already from there with eyesight, and with knowledge, and with humor.

                    PS.
                    Yarbay, Homer, hello comrade!
            3. Max otto
              Max otto 15 May 2013 00: 10
              0
              Well, there, "gerycha" is cheaper to buy, it is better than their mushrooms, they say, the same business.
          2. carbofo
            carbofo 14 May 2013 17: 33
            0
            Quote: mocxari
            Yes, it’s absolutely normal, in Afghanistan the interests of our state and our military are combined.

            An interesting interest is to grow opium poppy!
          3. pensioner
            pensioner 14 May 2013 20: 50
            0
            Quote: mocxari
            Yes, absolutely normal. In Afghanistan, the interests of our state are combined.

            Oops! Do not make me laugh! What are Georgia’s interests there? Yes, there wasn’t enough cannon fodder to plug holes - that’s all your interests. Interestingly amers about the dead you consoled a lot of Chen? Then. Probably. Someday. Heartily. Yes, they forgot about you, as about a suitcase without a handle ...
          4. Patton5
            Patton5 15 May 2013 01: 11
            0
            Simply put, the Georgian government trades in the lives of its sons, so that the ruling people get buns.
  • crasever
    crasever 14 May 2013 12: 41
    0
    Wow, this Saakashvili is still puffing, although it is time for this killer of peacekeepers and civilians to frantically rush about in search of a hole darker, but deeper ...
  • fenix57
    fenix57 14 May 2013 12: 46
    0
    [quote = senior citizen] I bet on Georgia. [/ quote]
    [quote = mocxari] Nothing, nothing, we ourselves will figure out what and how without you, it doesn’t touch you on any side [/ quote]
    [quote = mocxari] Nothing, nothing we ourselves will figure out what and how without you touching it. [/ quote] and SHO was said, suddenly MATERNOUS against RUSSIA ...:
    [quote = mocxari] ჰო საქართველოში ვცხოვრობ.
    რუსეთთან ურთიერთობაში სააკაშვილი 100% სწორი იყო.
    ეს რომ ასეა ამტკიცებს ისიც რომ ახალი ხელისუფლებაც იგივე პოლიტიკას აგრძელებს (ნატო, ევროკავშირი, ო SO LISTEN! YOU'RE NOT STUPIDY AND METABLES BORDER ...
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    3. mocxari
      mocxari 14 May 2013 14: 16
      -5
      Delirium tremens? belay
      1. Lopatov
        Lopatov 14 May 2013 14: 29
        +1
        A familiar condition?
        1. mocxari
          mocxari 14 May 2013 15: 19
          -4
          No, from where, not Russian. wink
          1. bord731
            bord731 14 May 2013 16: 18
            +6
            Quote: mocxari
            No, from where, not Russian. wink

            No, - you - trollius obyknovennyi ...
            1. MG42
              MG42 14 May 2013 19: 53
              +3
              >>> I have mastered the translator from Russian into Georgian ...
              ფიქრობს, რომ ყველაზე ჭკვიანი >>> I translate = thinks that he is the smartest and put up a flag.
          2. seller trucks
            seller trucks 14 May 2013 21: 15
            +1
            "Everyone has their own shortcomings" (c) Osgood Fielding III,
            1. MG42
              MG42 15 May 2013 00: 00
              0
              Quote: seller trucks
              "Each has its own shortcomings" (c)

              Lady Gaga in Georgian

              mocxari translate what is this Georgian singing?
              1. Geokingxnumx
                Geokingxnumx 15 May 2013 00: 59
                +2
                Quote: MG42
                Lady Gaga in Georgian

                Well, I don’t know if you know what comedy shows are!
                1. MG42
                  MG42 15 May 2013 01: 06
                  +2
                  Quote: GEOKING95
                  if you know what comedy shaw is

                  I know the question was not for you, but for the Georgian , this new "Georgian" writes painfully good in Russian ... And it is quite simple to check the "flag" = complicating the task on the video >>> translate a piece of national news, for example.
          3. datur
            datur 14 May 2013 23: 06
            +1
            Well, you have rodents, now only ties are in fashion !!! laughing wink yes
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  • Vtel
    Vtel 14 May 2013 14: 17
    +1
    In one of his recent interviews with the Georgian media, the former Georgian defense minister Dimitri Shashkini (Dmitry Shashkin), a companion of President Saakashvili, was thinking about the position of power in terms of “conversations” with the Russian Federation. The main military department of Georgia, Lieutenant Shashkin (yes, while working as the head of the Ministry of Defense

    Brownian movement of one shit to another. The "tough" Georgian army, together with the vanguard of the freedom-loving people, tried on 8.8.8 to triumphantly solve the land issue in Lenin style, to all who are not with them 1,5 by 2 meters, regardless of age and religion - and this is bitter, because they seem to be Orthodox , although now I can’t believe it. And Schaub, who of the "Iberians" remembered these innocent, bright lives ... Although in previous centuries worthy warriors lived in Iberia, from God, now their Nama. And they are all about the land, which does not belong to them, if you look with the corner of your ear into the History of not so distant centuries. As the ancient aksakals said - THE PEOPLE IS WORTHY OF ITS RULER. Although there are still worthy people among them, they simply cannot be heard.
    1. mocxari
      mocxari 14 May 2013 14: 31
      -7
      [quote = Vtel] [quote] THE PEOPLE ARE WELCOME TO THEIR GOVERNOR. [/ quote]

      I agree with the Russian dignity of Putin, the best you can not give out.
      1. MVS
        MVS 14 May 2013 14: 33
        +7
        Quote: mocxari

        I agree with the Russian dignity of Putin, the best you can not give out.

        Yes, Putin is better than a tie-eater.
        1. mocxari
          mocxari 14 May 2013 15: 24
          -7
          Well, you have Putin (aka Urusbashi) until 2024 on health.
  • Takashi
    Takashi 14 May 2013 14: 59
    +5
    I have a feeling that the Georgian leadership is participating in a certain television show.
    The point of the show is to play from time to time the poor and unfortunate ones on whom the punishing sword from Moscow will soon fall. :) :) The result will be another cash infusion from some sponsor (USA \ Ukraine \ European Union).
    In fact, we Russians do not care deeply for Georgia. What are you having fun with your president there - your Georgian business. We live and do not bother you.
    What do we need in your Georgia? Wine? there are from Moldova. Grapes? - Krasnodar is.
    Maybe we need your oil? do you have it
    Militarily, Georgia will not last even 2 weeks if it wedges us Russian or we get drunk ...
    So, dear Georgians, you yourself are somehow there yourself ...
    we will deal with our president as a thread.
    1. Geokingxnumx
      Geokingxnumx 14 May 2013 15: 06
      +2
      Quote: Takashi
      I have a feeling that the Georgian leadership is participating in a certain television show.
      The point of the show is to play from time to time the poor and unfortunate ones on whom the punishing sword from Moscow will soon fall. :) :) The result will be another cash infusion from some sponsor (USA \ Ukraine \ European Union).
      In fact, we Russians do not care deeply for Georgia. What are you having fun with your president there - your Georgian business. We live and do not bother you.
      What do we need in your Georgia? Wine? there are from Moldova. Grapes? - Krasnodar is.
      Maybe we need your oil? do you have it
      Militarily, Georgia will not last even 2 weeks if it wedges us Russian or we get drunk ...
      So, dear Georgians, you yourself are somehow there yourself ...
      we will deal with our president as a thread.

      if you do not give a damn do not write statues about Georgia and the president’s fool so often)
      1. Lexo
        Lexo 14 May 2013 18: 26
        -4
        By the way, I should pay attention to what is often written about Georgia ... it only seems to fools that Georgia is not needed ... even as I NEED! and therefore Moscow will never leave Georgia alone .. :)
        1. seller trucks
          seller trucks 14 May 2013 21: 09
          +1
          in the Ukrainian press, every day they write tons of waste paper about the intrigues of the Kremlin, following your logic, Ukraine will never leave Moscow alone. What a horror! we will be forced to extort mov belay
        2. carbofo
          carbofo 15 May 2013 11: 24
          +1
          Quote: Lexo
          Georgia is not needed ... even as NEEDED

          Explain to whom and why you need it ??
          Guilt? - Everyone doesn’t care how the Spanish and Moldavian ate, and they eat, the fans do not count.
          Resorts? - Everyone goes to Turkey.
          Borjomi? - this is for the kidneys.
          What else in Georgia is there that would interest us? I personally am not interested in any of the above.
          Sour wines
          Resorts xs, was not and is not interested
          Borjomi Nitsche, but Narzan is no worse.
    2. carbofo
      carbofo 14 May 2013 17: 36
      +1
      Quote: Takashi
      Militarily, Georgia will not last 2 weeks,

      You bent it, even Sweden does not want to stretch for more than a week, but they will still be larger in size.
  • Black
    Black 14 May 2013 16: 16
    +1
    Quote: 11 black
    only in every sense can a ram talk to a bear from a position of strength ...

    this is what makes me think ..... Now, if I were a Georgian (pah-pah-pah), I probably suspected Mishiko of working for Russia. How else can you explain that in 3 days de jure was sewn to the de facto ... This could be done either by a madman or a traitor.
    1. Geokingxnumx
      Geokingxnumx 14 May 2013 16: 24
      +2
      Quote: Chen
      this is what makes me think ..... Now, if I were a Georgian (pah-pah-pah), I probably suspected Mishiko of working for Russia. How else can you explain that in 3 days de jure was sewn to the de facto ... This could be done either by a madman or a traitor.

      hoo hoo))) did not think that someone would write this (From Russian)! yes there is a suspicion
      1. Black
        Black 14 May 2013 16: 30
        +1
        Quote: GEOKING95
        yes there is a suspicion

        Well, then you lick one place then !?
        He spoiled Russian-Georgian relations as much as he could, to such an extent that perhaps the point of no return was passed. We’ll somehow live, but you (and how embarrassing it will be !!) again, sooner or later have to ask friends. It's unavoidable.
        1. Geokingxnumx
          Geokingxnumx 14 May 2013 16: 34
          +1
          Quote: Chen
          Well, then you lick one place then !?

          i don't lick
          Quote: Chen
          He spoiled Russian-Georgian relations as much as he could, to such an extent that perhaps the point of no return was passed.

          and sense Sahak is to blame for this?
          Quote: Chen
          We’ll live somehow

          And we
          Quote: Chen
          again, sooner or later have to ask friends

          maybe life and maybe not
          1. Black
            Black 14 May 2013 16: 57
            0
            Quote: GEOKING95
            and sense Sahak is to blame for this?

            Not only. It began with Gamsakhurdia.
            You don't know how to fight. In Abkhazia they got it in the nose, it was necessary to lure them with a different pretzel. And you again, instead of a pretzel, "hail"!
            Quote: GEOKING95
            And we

            For God's sake. Here with all my heart to you - good and peace.
            Quote: GEOKING95
            maybe life and maybe not

            Life, katso, how to drink, give life! You are not in Europe, there is a different alignment.
            1. Geokingxnumx
              Geokingxnumx 14 May 2013 21: 10
              0
              Quote: Chen
              Not only. It began with Gamsakhurdia.

              wow))) and what do you know about Gamsakhurdiy? Gamsakhurdia refused the West)
              Quote: Chen
              You do not know how to fight. In Abkhazia they got a nose

              Yes, what sense is it that you can write! I will be reminded of who helped in Abkhazia with technology and lively power! in Abkhazia we got a nose because we believed Yeltsin and Shevardnadze!
              Quote: Chen
              Life, katso, how to drink, give life! You are not in Europe, there is a different alignment.

              Yes, we are in the Caucasus! and in the Caucasus others rule!
              1. mocxari
                mocxari 14 May 2013 22: 12
                -1
                Why do you describe this, do you think they don’t know?
                They still know how they know, but they’ll blow out all their shit exactly for gold, such is their nature.
                And the fact that in 1992-1993 in Abkhazia, there really was a war between Georgia and the Russian Federation on several occasions they themselves (generals, ministers, etc.) recognized that they were proud of it (killing thousands of civilians and occupying part of a foreign state) .....
  • Black
    Black 14 May 2013 16: 25
    +2
    Quote: mocxari
    I agree with the Russian dignity of Putin, the best you can not give out.

    What are you guys measuring ... letters, so you are presidents !?
    Gentlemen Georgians! Already in the military plan, we got shit, so make your own website, name it like "Defense from Russia", and go! What are you doing here !?
    About what we deserve. Russians are worthy of Putin. At least we are not ashamed of him, he didn’t justify under the armor in front of the eyes of the whole world ... I, like yours, did not bite my ties.
  • lecturer
    lecturer 14 May 2013 17: 47
    +1
    Mr. Shashkin, under the words about the “act of goodwill,” apparently hints at the “goodwill” that the Georgian army demonstrated by order of Saakashvili in August 2008.
    "Friends!
    Though you hoarse, praising each other, -
    All your music is bad! .. "
    Why, without fear of sin,
    Does the cuckoo praise the Rooster?
    For praising the Cuckoo.
  • deman73
    deman73 14 May 2013 19: 26
    0
    Everything is numb to Mishiko
  • WS
    WS 14 May 2013 19: 39
    0
    Question to mocxari, according to my information, Adjara is actually occupied by the Turks like Cyprus, is Georgia going to do something with this problem (if this is a problem of course)?
    1. mocxari
      mocxari 14 May 2013 22: 15
      -1
      There is no truth in your information, for there are no real problems in Adjara, but about the "occupation" I laughed ...
      There is occupation in Abahia and in Tskhinvali and the occupiers, Russians.
  • Naval
    Naval 14 May 2013 22: 02
    +1
    They are not very capable of fighting, if they are not women and children, of course, there they are heroes. But they sing ...
  • mocxari
    mocxari 14 May 2013 22: 34
    -3
    Russian comrades, no matter how you grunt in this forum (or in another), this reality will not change, Georgia in the sphere of your influence cannot be returned to you, it is not the government of Georgia, not the Georgian people to prevent this, as if the return has already passed.
    Our only way is through NATO and the EU and you will have to come to terms with this, whether you want it or not.
    1. morprepud
      morprepud 14 May 2013 22: 44
      +3
      comrades rodents, no matter how you cover up your point ... - still rushing shit ... after 2008 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    2. datur
      datur 14 May 2013 23: 09
      +1
      you grunt-fighting rodent hamsters !!! all the more you don’t need us for nothing !!!! and we will need you and the memory of rodents erase, do not hesitate, we have rich experience !!! so go and eat the ties !!!! - this is what you do best yes
  • studentmati
    studentmati 14 May 2013 23: 18
    0
    It is sad that the short-sightedness, and frankly speaking, from the stupidity of politicians, affects the relations of two fraternal and very close in spirit and faith peoples.
    1. Seraph
      Seraph 15 May 2013 04: 50
      0
      Alas, faith for our peoples is no longer at the forefront; our spirit has always been different; anthropologically, culturally, we did not stand by the same; languages ​​are nothing in common. But they are sympathy because of constant provocations and hostility pass. Probably many years will pass before we can forget the grievances
  • Seraph
    Seraph 15 May 2013 04: 44
    -1
    I think that the topic of 18% of the lost territory of Georgia is no longer relevant. This is a fait accompli and the first sign of the collapse of the entire country. As such, the Georgian people do not exist, there are Kartvels, Mingrelians, Svans; Abkhazians and Ossetians have already separated. Another 5-6% of Armenians and Azerbaijanis, as well as Yezidis, Greeks, Chechens, Tats. Since the beginning of the 90s. more than a million people left the country, i.e. about 20%, every fifth. A single anthropological type among the so-called. "Georgians" do not exist: the difference between the inhabitants of neighboring villages, separated by mountains, is greater than among the Russians, separated by thousands of kilometers from the Baltic to Vladivostok. The central government completely discretized itself (Gamsakhurdia-Shevardnadze-Sahakyan). The economy, if you can call it a mixture of remittances from Russia, handouts from the United States, subsistence agriculture and non-working industry, is incapable. The army has proven its complete worthlessness. The entire history of the area now occupied by the Republic of Georgia is a continuous feud and stabbing with constant invasions from the outside, the withdrawal of hundreds of thousands of slaves into slavery, the degradation of state institutions and the economy. The short period of stability under the protection of the Russian Empire-USSR is over. Western Transcaucasia is slipping into its natural state: disintegration, clan-ethnic conflict, anarchy. Well, at the end, the occupation by a strong neighbor (m.b. Turkey), mass Turkification and Islamization, population decline; becoming a Turkish backwater. Will the history of Tsar Heraclius II, the Treatise of George and Tsar George XII be repeated? This is hardly in our lifetime ...
  • smershspy
    smershspy 16 May 2013 16: 11
    +4
    Gentlemen! It should be noted that the people are not to blame for anything, the politicians are to blame - "American henchmen, corrupt puppets, false Georgians who brought the country to such a state. I can say that on New Year's Eve in Georgia, giant chandeliers hung on the streets while children were running. on the streets and asking for money - it really amazed me. Who brought the country to such a state? The answer is simple: corrupt officials who want to push Russia and Georgia and sow enmity in the hearts of people. They begin to erase military monuments and interpret history in a Western manner! With the hands of Georgians! the West wants to put pressure on Russia, turn two peoples into enemies while our peoples fought together, hand in hand in the Second World War! We have a common history! We need to be friends and end up with Western pseudo-coolness! Georgians think about it! I have the honor!