Rosoboronexport's next success in Peru

As the Peruvian newspaper La Republica reported in an article by Angel Paez "Ejército canceló millonaria compra de 7 misiles antiaéreos a Corea del Sur" on May 12, 2013, Peruvian ground forces division division general General Ricardo Moncada Novo, on April 14, has officially rendered a new account in the name of the land forces commander Peru. (108 million dollars) for the purchase for the Peruvian Party of portable Chiron anti-aircraft missile systems (also known as Shingung, or KP-SAM) produced by South Korean company LIG Nex24 (former LG Innotec, part of the LIG group of LG Corporation). The contract was signed on December 104,1492 41,6 of the year and was to be the first sale of the South Korean Chiron air defense system abroad.

The contract provoked protests from Rosoboronexport (about which our blog wrote), since the Chiron (Shingung) MANPADS was developed with the active participation of Russian developers under the relevant 2003 agreement of the year. Rosoboronexport announced the presence in the South Korean system of Russian intellectual property transferred to the South Korean side in agreement with the Ministry of Defense of South Korea, and that the South Korean manufacturer does not have the right to sell this property to third countries.

Rosoboronexport provided the relevant documents to the Ministry of Defense and the Peruvian Army Command, and LIG Nex1, reportedly, was unable to provide Peruvians with the appropriate permission from the Russian side to re-export the technology. After the signing of the contract, the South Korean company tried to achieve changes in the financial terms of the deal with Peru (having demanded 60% advance payment instead of agreed 30%) and unilaterally tried to make changes to the package and technical conditions of delivery. All this led to the cancellation of the contract with the Peruvian army's LIG Nex1. In addition, the company LIG Nex1 officially disqualified as a potential supplier of the Peruvian army for a period of one year.

Demonstration of a portable LIG Nex1 Chiron (Shingung) air defense system to a Russian military representative

Comments

[Ghenxnumx]

The news is good, but it’s crumb at sea - AK of various modifications both sold and sold, RPGs, planes copied from ours, and much more, that’s where the bonanza is for our defense industry.

[Russian]

Mdaa, and South Korea there too! With China, it would not hurt to behave the same way.

[elmir15]

Quote: р_у_с_с_к_и_й

Mdaa, and South Korea there too! With China, it would not hurt to behave the same way.

the presence in the South Korean system of Russian intellectual property transferred to the South Korean side

It can be seen that we liked to step on the rake, why should other countries connect other countries to the development and production on their territory? Why are these adhesives needed? It is necessary to independently develop samples or mutually beneficial to cooperate with other countries where our lag in some areas is significantly behind, for example, electronics is behind us.

[fortunophile]

I suggest looking at this "victory" from a different angle
We read in the article:
"MANPADS Chiron (Shingung) was developed with the active participation of Russian developers under the relevant agreement in 2003"
Now the question is: "Why did Russian developers take part in this?" I understand now there will be comments about bubble and "markets", we are not so different, but think about 2003 Russia has money like a fool of candy wrappers, but we are sharing our intellectual developments with a US ally ...
Aren't we ourselves creating the conditions to look like fools in the eyes of others? Imaginary "victoria" turns out, the secrets are disclosed by us, but I think the South Koreans will come up with how to sell them to third countries

[Pimply]

You are not good at patent law. In this case, that RPG, that AK will sell, because they expired patent applications. Usually they are 10-15 years. Ak was not initially patented at all, and then licenses for its production were distributed here and there for free.
That is, from a certain moment, anyone can produce AK. However, patent rights can be obtained for a number of components and parts used in the hundredth series. Which, in general, was done. However, the whole world is riveting a conditionally called AK-47 version, for which a license is NOT REQUIRED.

[Ghenxnumx]

Quote: Pimply

You are poorly versed in patent law. In this case, that RPG, that AK will sell, because they expired patent applications.

In fact, I understand a little - I'm not talking about the terms of licensing, but just about missed opportunities; and I’m glad that already with the new series the AK acted competently, defending themselves legally.

[Reasonable, 2,3]

With "certain persons in the defense industry, we are in trade. Iernichayu.

[svp67]

Well, positive news twice:
- it’s good that we managed to prove and defend our development;
- it looks like the Peruvian authorities are giving our country not an "ambiguous hint" about the willingness to cooperate;

[pensioner]

Quote: svp67

Well, positive news twice:
- it’s good that we managed to prove and defend our development;
- it looks like the Peruvian authorities are giving our country not an "ambiguous hint" about the willingness to cooperate;

Well, we are creeping closer to everything else ...

[Artmark]

We must gain a foothold in Latin America, we must sell our weapons !!!

[ankh-andrej]

Quote: svp67

it seems that the Peruvian authorities are not giving our country an "ambiguous hint" about their willingness to cooperate;

According to the results of tests during the tender there, in general, the Chinese QW-18 systems were the best both in terms of performance and price. But "the service of material support of the ground forces of Peru (Servicio de Material de Guerra del Ejército - SMGE) was unexpectedly recommended for the acquisition of the South Korean Chiron, and a contract was signed with the South Korean side, which caused questions from the Peruvian public and protests from the Chinese CPMIEC "

[Mizhgan]

However, this is another progress on the world stage, albeit small, but progress ... Comfort also consists of small trifles.

[Petrovich44]

By the way. Not really in the subject, but ...
Russia will continue to supply Syria with S-300 systems provided for by previous contracts
13 May 2013 | 11: 03
At the same time, there will be no new agreements
At a meeting with the Foreign Ministers of Poland and Germany, Sergey Lavrov awaited uncomfortable questions. According to Kommersant, after the meeting in Warsaw, the Russian Foreign Minister had to explain why Russia continues to supply anti-aircraft missile systems to Syria. German Foreign Minister Guido Westerwelle said that arms supplies to Syria should be stopped, and only in this case will the settlement get a chance. Lavrov in response explained that Russia was not going to conclude new contracts with Damascus. Now we are talking about an agreement signed in 2010. Part of the equipment has already been sent to Syria, the rest is actually waiting for shipment. Lavrov also noted that the S-300 is a defensive weapon that is designed to enable Syria to protect itself from air attacks. The minister also recalled the recent attacks by the Israeli Air Force.
As expected, the topic of deliveries to Syria S-300 will become a key at the talks between Vladimir Putin and Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, which will take place in the coming days.
http://www.echo.msk.ru/news/1072932-echo.html
Let's hope that there will be S-300 complexes in Syria.

[UFO]

We must also sue the Koreans for a penalty, or what kind of "indemnity".

[Yves762]

And what is the "next success of Rosoboronexport" ???
What prevents Tuzik-phages from "doing" (copy-paste rules , thanks to China) your MANPADS without cooperation with Rosoboronexport.?.
IMHO, nashi with protection of "copyright and intellectual property", since all sorts of local "vassals" on them .... try to put ..

[Igoriok222]

Well, completely insolent. They want to sell Russian intellectual property illegally. Shoot!

[Hammer]

Well, at the end, they began to defend their rights! Well, better late than never ... I hope that this behavior will become the norm ...

[Standard Oil]

Well, it is a pity that the USSR was an altruistic state, how many licenses sailed to the damned bourgeois and their insidious Maosist reactionaries.

[ankh-andrej]

"The Chiron complex was selected based on the results of a tender announced in 2011, in which, in addition to the South Korean system, the Chinese QW-18 and FN-16 MANPADS were also presented (both were presented by the Chinese foreign trade association China Precision Machinery Import and Export Corporation - CPMIEC) and the Russian 9K338 Igla-S MANPADS (represented by Rosoboronexport). "
And now that the Peruvians will arrange a new tender?

[Zubr]

THIS IS CALLED FOR EVERY Tricky Bum, THERE ARE A SCRAP ...

[darksoul]

Pleasantly surprised, even though somewhere managed to defend domestic intellectual property ... keep it up