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From the "swamp" in the "swamp". About the May Opposition Promotions

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Exactly a year has passed since Vladimir Putin assumed the presidency after another election victory. 7 May 2012, his third inauguration to the presidency took place. As you know, the opposition decided to meet that day in a special way, and prepared a protest action on the new Russian area - Bolotnaya Square. The results of the meeting, if I may say so, are known to everyone, and therefore it is hardly worth reminding about pieces of asphalt, fixtures and broken heads a year ago ... But it’s worth telling about the new rally of the Russian “irreconcilable” opposition. It deserves whether or not to judge our readers.


6 May 2013 of the year on the anniversary of a similar rally, the so-called non-systemic opposition again decided to show the Kremlin “fucking mother” and still on the same Bolotnaya Square to hold another gathering of people “fighting for the fate of Russia”, which this time did not match with multi-digit numerals . There was not a word rally or march of epithets "millionth", "billionth", "galactic" or "interplanetary". This time, obviously, in order not to make the people laugh, the opposition leaders decided to do without loud words in the names of the action they organized. Only the sizzling and, naturally, exclusively irreconcilable slogans on paper posters, which, however, later replenished the warehouses of waste paper collection points to raise funds for the following opposition rallies, flew above the Swamp.

Generally, it must be admitted, this time among the oppositionists - accusers of all without exception the plunderers of Russian capitalist property - the action blurred before it began. The incriminating mood of the opposition masses spoiled the news that 5-year-old Maxim Melkov died on the same square where they had gathered during the installation of the “opposition” scene after the fall of a huge column from about a 25-meter height. At first it was announced that this was a working company that undertook to serve the technical component of the rally, then news agencies spread the information that a relative of the worker was allegedly killed. Opposition Russian media were quick to declare that Maxim Melkov adhered to “swamp” views, and therefore the soul simply called him to help his “comrades” ... He adhered to these views or did not adhere to him, but the leaders of the opposition hurried to link the death at the Swamp with those hardships and hardships that today fall on their already hard share.

It is noteworthy that the rally in Bolotnaya Square began with a minute of silence in memory of the deceased, although during this minute there was no silence on the square. In the distance from those who announced this minute, people shouted, shouted and even laughed out loud ... It turned out that the overwhelming majority of the audience did not even hear the beginning of a minute of silence, and those who offered to honor the memory of Maxim Melkov were not at all seen, and about the very death of the 25-year-old youth did not know anything. On the issue of information awareness of the opposition masses ...

The death of a man at Bolotnaya led to the fact that he had to immediately abandon the fiery speeches from the scene, and the scene itself was not fully assembled. That is why the main ideological inspirers had to deliver their speeches losing in the May Moscow air from a certain improvised platform in the form of a car equipped with a minimum set of equipment.



As a result, even representatives of the most opposition media failed to convey to their regular viewers (listeners, readers) exact information about what the leaders of this said there were. The reason is that already approximately in 50 meters from the “scene” there was no way to hear what the speakers called for, and the speakers themselves are not visible (the case with the “unnoticed” minute of silence is an example).

In 70-80 meters from the "epicenter" people sat down on posters (handed to them by the "right oppositionists") posters and played ... who were in cards, who were playing the guitar, who was pouring beer, skillfully carried by, hidden and carried by in plastic bottles. From somewhere far away came deaf fragments of phrases, among which it was possible to make out the words “prisoners”, “freedom”, “Bulk”. The "familiar" word that was heard forced the crouching right on the square to distract from the affairs in which they were engaged, creating an epic mass character, but then the words of the deaf and the "periphery of the opposition" returned to their business.

By the way, about the mass character ... It was to her that the cherished and absolutely all reports of news media, TV companies and radio stations, which 6 of May 2013 of the year tried to broadcast live from Bolotnaya Square, were reduced. At the same time, the number of those who had gathered was counted, who in that much. The Dozhd TV channel, it seems, went the furthest and “launched” so many of its correspondents (part-time accountants) that would be enough to not only cover the events on Bolotnaya Square, but also to help the Moscow janitors clean up after the opposition rally.
The broadcasts were conducted from the square itself, from the streets that approached it, and even from improvised observation posts located on the upper floors of the high-rises adjacent to the square. As a result, every correspondent "from the scene", wanting to outdo his colleagues, presented all the big numbers. At first, it was about 12 thousands of people gathered, then about 15, then someone on Twitter published a number of 27 thousand people and it was precisely this number that many people jumped at. Further more. They counted the area, sorry for the tautology, the area and it turned out that the opposition "mastered" 14000 square meters of territory. No more, no less ... To find the number of people gathered, it was proposed to multiply these meters by 2, or even by 2,5. In the end, it was considered that there were few 27 thousands, and it was necessary to publish data on the 35 thousands of opposition members who came to the rally. It was the oppositionists! .. Only for some reason, the representatives of the “counting commission” did not take into account that the percentages of 10 from the number of participants were law enforcement officers and as many more (at least) were representatives of various media outlets, among which you could see the logos of not only the media Russian, let's say, jurisdiction. And after such “calculations” the oppositionists still make claims to Vladimir Churov and the CEC headed by him ...

What the leaders of the opposition broadcast from the improvised "armored car", the same opposition publications, as it turned out, were of little concern. It is not heard, it is not visible - and God is with them ... The main thing, they say, is gathered. Let the cards spread, let the video cameras hang over the heads and sadly monotonous posters, or listen to an English lesson for your own use with headphones in your ears. The main thing is the notorious mass effect ...

After vague speeches, the opposition leaders presented their vision of how many of their supporters gathered at the Swamp. Ilya Yashin (the representative of the so-called opposition’s so-called coordination council) went the furthest, saying that he had seen no less than 50 thousands of people in the square. The only thing that Mr. Yashin's words testified to is that he, at least, is threefold in his eyes ... If you compare his testimony with the testimony of the Moscow police department, then he doesn’t even triple, but at least sevens ... Apparently, the opposition struggle is all it seriously affects the health of a young man who calls himself a politician ...



If we talk about the leitmotif of the rally, then in the hands of those who gathered more than others, a banner with the inscription “Freedom to the prisoners of 6 May” flashed. But here, too, the irreconcilable opposition was waiting for an incident. Several opposition activists managed to post a black banner with the same inscription on one of the high-rises of New Arbat. The banner, not hanging in its place for half an hour, suddenly began to disappear in one of the windows of the upper floors. According to those who hung the banner, the fabric was sucked into the apartment by one of the tenants, against whom the real bullying began in the microblogging of the Bolotnaya activists. No, what else are these pseudo-activists like: they threw a piece of black rag over several windows, the white light to the residents was blocked. And if a person decided to let out a cigarette smoke in an open window - he looked, and here it is ... Well, naturally, and he vacuumed all this disgrace ...



In order to somehow cheer up the badly spoiled mood of the marsh oppositionists and sweeten their bitter pill, the analytical “Levada Center” decided to say a word before. 6 and 7 in May, that is, on the day of the “marshy” rally and one day later, the staff of this independent (as they call themselves) research center decided to show the Russians their version of the statistics - so to speak about the “pain of Russia”. The data was collected, as was reported in April, and here is the publication of the result exactly on the “swamp” day. Let us present the data of the “Levada Center” opinion poll with the most popular (unpopular), according to the same center, answers of the respondents.

1. Do you support the slogans “Russia without Putin?” And “Putin must leave?” (An interesting statement of the question for an independent research center, isn't it? Note the author of the article)

Rather, do not support - 36%
I do not support it at all - 26%
Rather, support - 16%

2. Than you are not satisfied with the policy of President Putin? Why would you like a person with other suggestions for solving problems in Russia?

Much more attention needs to be paid to issues of social justice and social protection of the population - 44%.

3. How would you like to characterize the current government?

Self-interest - 35%.
Fair - 2%.

4. Do you know who Alexey Navalny is? If so, are you following the case of “Kirovles”, in which he is one of the accused? (Do the authors of the question not be embarrassed that there are already obvious hints of the necessary answers in the question itself ... - comment by the author of the article).

True, in this case “leading” questions did not help “Levada-Center”. More than other people, judging by the result (33%), they still do not know who Navalny is. But, apparently, for Levada Center, the main thing is that he himself helped the "ignoramuses" learn about Alexey Navalny ...

There were other questions, however, these data are quite enough to conclude that the study was “independent”.

It is noteworthy that immediately after such publication from Levada-Center, materials appeared in the media that the center was allegedly a foreign agent, and in just 4 of a month (from December 2012 to March 2013) managed to get from abroad US, UK, Poland, South Korea) almost 4 million rubles. This information was launched to the masses by the newspaper Izvestia, but representatives of the Levada Center itself stated that they were not any foreign agents, and that they did not receive any notification from the prosecutor’s office. At the same time, LC director Lev Gudkov confirmed the information that the agency he heads receives foreign grants, but exclusively for scientific purposes not related to politics. Well, the fact that Levada Center is not connected with politics is not really disputed, especially on the basis of the above-mentioned sociological survey ...

In all likelihood, in our country certain structures, one way or another connected with political technologies, do not want to understand that if the funding comes from abroad, then the law obliges them to register with foreign agents. There is no question of any repressions - just register. But with this, as you can see, problems arise. The legal term “foreign agent” for some reason causes rejection of those who are these agents.

In general, the opposition saga 6 of May once again demonstrated that creativity in “our creative class” slowly but surely disappears, and all the “swamp” action is really aimed not at real political competition in the country, but at self-promotion, and with self-PR frankly low sample ...
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  1. Denis
    Denis 8 May 2013 08: 19 New
    27
    All this is not even worth attention ...
    1. Refund_SSSR
      Refund_SSSR 8 May 2013 09: 05 New
      12
      Attention is not they, but those who stood behind them and stand.
      1. GreatRussia
        GreatRussia 8 May 2013 11: 23 New
        10

        Well - Levada Center’s disconnectedness with politics is not truly disputed, especially based on the topics of the above sociological survey ...



        Another victory of common sense:


        The Prosecutor General's Office revealed facts of foreign financing of the Levada Center

        http://www.interfax.ru/russia/news.asp?id=305408


        Three more Russian non-profit organizations (NPOs) are recognized as foreign agents.

        As the press service of the Prosecutor General’s Office of the Russian Federation told REGNUM news agency, this is the Ural human rights group, the Moscow School of Political Studies and the Human Rights Fund “Public Verdict”.

        According to prosecutors, over the past few months, these organizations received large sums from foreign sources. Meanwhile, organizations say that all information about their activities is in the public domain, and the Public Verdict is ready to go to court if it is recognized by a foreign agent.

        http://www.regnum.ru/news/polit/1656724.html#ixzz2SgSFDheZ

        1. GreatRussia
          GreatRussia 8 May 2013 11: 45 New
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          Quote: AK44

          Such as Ksenia Sobchak for example. And what, quite a professional bl ..., oh, sorry, oppositionist laughing

          Comments are needed or is everything clear already?


          Ksenia Sobchak: "I love Jews, because all Russians are cattle!"

          http://www.myjane.ru/articles/text/?id=507

          Sobchak No, i am an atheist. Though granddaughter of a rabbi.
          http://web.archive.org/web/20100204131546/http://www.gq.ru/people/article/25163/


          Sobchak:Я believer
          http://www.newsru.com/russia/22jun2012/kalosha.html
          1. Alexander Romanov
            Alexander Romanov 8 May 2013 11: 59 New
            +5
            Quote: GreatRussia

            Comments are needed or is everything clear already?

            Yes, not looking there, these clowns are in full view of everyone. Here's what kind of info goes, who knows the truth or not?

            In Vologda, officials banned Soviet symbols on May 9


            I publish interesting material about how Vologda at the celebration of Victory Day, local officials banned the use of any Soviet symbols


            Details here: http://warfiles.ru/show-30515-v-vologde-chinovniki-zapretili-sovetskuyu-simvo
            liku-na-9-maya.html Blogs seem to be confirmed, but there is still silence on the sites. If true, then there is a more terrible people sitting Sobchak and anal. That's who you need to extinguish am
            1. GreatRussia
              GreatRussia 8 May 2013 12: 17 New
              +6
              Quote: Alexander Romanov

              Yes, not looking there, these clowns are in full view of everyone. Here's what kind of info goes, who knows the truth or not?
              In Vologda, officials banned Soviet symbols on May 9



              Who would dare to ban the Victory Banner, rewards of veterans and so on?
              All the more so Soviet symbols depicted on the Banner of Victory, which:

              In order to perpetuate the people's heroic deed in the Great Patriotic War of 1941-1945, to commemorate the merits of the soldiers of the Soviet Armed Forces to the Fatherland and to thank the descendants of the victors of the fascist invaders, this Federal Law establishes the status of the Banner of Victory, the legal basis for its storage and use.
              Article 1
              1. The banner of Victory is the assault flag of the 150th Order of Kutuzov, 1nd Class, by the Idritskaya Rifle Division, hoisted on May 1945, XNUMX on the Reichstag building in the city of Berlin.
              2. The Victory Banner is the official symbol of the victory of the Soviet people and their Armed Forces over fascist Germany in the Great Patriotic War of 1941-1945, a state relic of Russia.
              3. The Victory Banner is in eternal storage under conditions that ensure its safety and availability for viewing.
              4. The place and procedure for storing the Victory Banner, the procedure for its transportation are determined by the President of the Russian Federation.
              5. Storage of the Victory Banner is carried out at the expense of the federal budget.
              Article 2
              1. During the celebrations dedicated to the Victory Day, held by federal bodies of state power, bodies of state power of the constituent entities of the Russian Federation, local authorities, organizations, public associations, laying wreaths at the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier in Moscow and other monuments of the Great Patriotic War 1941 - 1945 on Victory Day and other days associated with the events of the Great Patriotic War of 1941-1945, as well as for displaying instead of the Victory Banner if it was removed from the view for restoration work, copies of the Victory Banner can be used.
              2. On Victory Day, copies of the Victory Banner may be hung on buildings (or raised on masts, flagpoles) along with the State Flag of the Russian Federation.
              3. The appearance of the copies of the Victory Banner must correspond to the appearance of the Victory Banner.
              4. The simultaneous raising (placement) of the State flag of the Russian Federation and a copy of the Victory Banner is carried out in the same manner as the simultaneous raising (placement) of the State flag of the Russian Federation and the flag of the subject of the Russian Federation, municipality, organization, public association.
              President
              Russian Federation
              V.PUTIN
              Moscow Kremlin
              7 May 2007 years
              N 68-ФЗ


              They’re not self-assured, after all, smile

            2. maxbrov74
              maxbrov74 8 May 2013 12: 50 New
              +6
              Quote: Alexander Romanov
              In Vologda, officials banned Soviet symbols on May 9


              My dear, what the hell are you talking about my city? Of course, here we have high-ranking bureaucrats, even those pi..ry, but not so much the same. Learn to filter information and do not insult my patriotic feelings.
              1. Alexander Romanov
                Alexander Romanov 8 May 2013 13: 47 New
                +1
                Quote: maxbrov74
                My dear, what the hell are you talking about my city?

                There is a link, an article on military materials. If the article is a duck, then write that I'm in vain, whether I ask the truth or not.
          2. artemiy
            artemiy 8 May 2013 12: 42 New
            +2
            And I want you to shut up! And she stuck her shameful tape in her ass!
          3. Svatdevostator
            Svatdevostator 8 May 2013 13: 10 New
            +1
            NCOs closed the money ran out, without the money of the people they can no longer collect laughing
          4. AndreyAB
            AndreyAB 8 May 2013 17: 10 New
            +1
            So it’s necessary to send Ksenia a common fund to the Jews, but to confiscate the looted dad by the only begotten, it’s interesting without dough how long it will take to love the Jews.
          5. Harleone
            Harleone 8 May 2013 18: 38 New
            -5
            And who is on the side of the police? Crab from the Cheka, medveput with an iPhone and a horde of burglar officials.
            1. captain dvv
              captain dvv 9 May 2013 02: 24 New
              +1
              Exactly. Those who advocate a change in our political system of total theft are the patriots of their country. Because what our president is doing today with his friends - Secheny, Rotter ... forgot how they are there, the Shuvalovs and Medvedevs are called in one word - treason.
      2. aksakal
        aksakal 8 May 2013 23: 23 New
        +2
        Quote: We refund_SSSR
        Attention is not they, but those who stood behind them and stand.

        - One such "standing" recently opened, and I was quite surprised by this. First, after Shuvalov, someone Surkov in London (remember Kudrin -))) was very indignant at the excessive fight against corruption - here the forum users were outraged that Putin was not engaged in the fight against corruption, and you look like bureaucrats, the second is very “weighty” -)) ) how they squealed and dismissed the nurses. And the more they cry, that means, the more correctly Putin acts.
        Markin answered him. Then this bureaucrat (Surkov) dared to object to Putin during the latter’s arrival at the ministers for non-fulfillment. And the result - expelled from the walls of the Kremlin. Now the Swamp is replenished with one of those who "stood" behind it. We are waiting there for Medvedev - they say that through his spokesman Timakova, he also took part in swamp affairs.
        It seems good that the Kremlin is being cleansed of secret swampy gentlemen, instead of observing the interests of Russia engaged in sabotage, personal enrichment and sabotage of the country, on the other hand, this process leads to increased non-systemic opposition. Indeed, Medvedev, Kudrin, Surkov, and Dvorkovich (also a potential exile of the Kremlin) are rather big, but very weighty and significant figures. It will be interesting already - everything that was hidden behind the walls of the Kremlin will splash onto the street. We stock up on popcorn. If anything, I'm rooting for Putin.
        1. captain dvv
          captain dvv 9 May 2013 02: 06 New
          0
          No need to write nonsense. Surkov, Shuvalov, Serdyukov, Medvedev, Chubais, Kudrin - these are all people who came to power thanks to Putin. They and Putin are one indivisible organized crime group. And if the opposition is fighting against thieves in the government and the presidential apparatus, etc. then honor and praise be to them.
          Sochi Olympics, Summit in Vladivostok, Moscow Region, Case of Prosecutors, VTB, Skolkovo - you can no longer continue. Everywhere theft. And this system was created by Putin. So wake up and stop blaming the West for all the troubles. Themselves have chosen a mediocre ruler now and pay the price. I’m only afraid that Putin will have to pay for the country with our children.
          1. aksakal
            aksakal 9 May 2013 21: 48 New
            +1
            Quote: captain dvv
            So wake up and stop blaming the West for all the troubles.

            Quote: captain dvv
            No need to write nonsense. Surkov, Shuvalov, Serdyukov, Medvedev, Chubais, Kudrin - these are all people who came to power thanks to Putin. They and Putin are one indivisible organized crime group.
            “Listen, think ten times before writing this to me.” This is good advice. First, learn to read. I did not blame the West - it is only about Surkov, who in fact tried to intimidate the UK in connection with his incursions on Skolkovo, which paid Ponomarev $ 750 thousand. Where did I blame the west? Secondly, before starting to argue with me, learn the materiel - with what side did Putin bring the same Chubais? Maybe the other way around? When you cut such rubbish, there is no desire to argue with you respectfully and on equal terms, for you are no match for me. Therefore, eat in full and read to the end. Thirdly, maybe Putin is mediocre, only during the last year’s May elections it was clearly visible that he had no one in his rivals and was close in the same weight category — all the rest were even mediocre. Fourth, you do not blame the authorities for your troubles, but yourself, and even better go to work, maybe you will feel better and stop here to dissolve your loser whining. I hate Shaitan Islamists, Zionists and especially losers. Representatives of the first two categories are at least fighting for their goals, because I hate it, but I DO NOT CARE, but losers who can only whine and blame anyone for their troubles, especially power, also hate and CARRY. Therefore, shut up in response to my post, I'm not going to clatter with you, because there is no respect for you.
            1. captain dvv
              captain dvv 9 May 2013 22: 08 New
              +1
              Did you smoke? Where did you hear that I'm complaining about my life. Go to bed.
              1. aksakal
                aksakal 10 May 2013 00: 32 New
                -2
                Quote: captain dvv
                Did you smoke? Where did you hear that I'm complaining about my life. Go to bed.
                - "Chef, the mustache has disappeared, having spoiled the polymers and our children can’t pay off forever, and all because of Putin (it’s all the same who, the main thing is to be the first person of the state) is a typical position of a loser, it’s checked not only on this resource You start arguing with such a thing - there is always a grudge against this political system precisely because of personal professional failures, simply speaking, a failed person, or a stupidly paid Western agent of influence on the Internet, usually a pimple student who earns himself a penny for courting women. And in either case, you should not waste time arguing with such people. And you too. Therefore, the answer is short - do not indicate what I should do and I won’t tell you where you should go. You’ll have to go far, loser. blame him
            2. Фокус
              Фокус 9 May 2013 22: 45 New
              +1
              You’re harsh, but you’re right!
              1. aksakal
                aksakal 10 May 2013 00: 23 New
                -2
                Quote: Focus
                You’re harsh, but you’re right!

                So I beg and how would I ask a topic to discuss, but what is really happening within the walls of the Kremlin? To discuss at a serious level, with a balance of power and with possible predictions, here again someone appears in an alcoholic T-shirt and how in his kitchen he yells that someone is to blame for him. The primitive himself climbs with his primitive vision to where he is not being asked. Let him go to his kitchen and further lap his swill. Mlyn, Ascetic disappeared somewhere, but instead comes this - ((((
    2. Deniska999
      Deniska999 8 May 2013 09: 22 New
      +2
      Our opposition is laughter. Someone is financing them for sure.
    3. ShturmKGB
      ShturmKGB 8 May 2013 10: 03 New
      +7
      Jesters, amusing performances arrange, like in the Middle Ages doll parsley ...
    4. nnz226
      nnz226 8 May 2013 12: 24 New
      0
      The Bolsheviks in 1903 also did not deserve attention. It all depends on the policy of the authorities. For as Lenin said: “The revolutionary situation is when the lower classes do not want to live in the old way, and the upper circles cannot control in the old way” In Russia, at the beginning of the 20 century, the upper circles could not manage in the old way, and that’s what’s happening!
    5. Lord of the Sith
      Lord of the Sith 8 May 2013 16: 23 New
      +4
      As I see these faces, I immediately remember the video

      1. AndreyAB
        AndreyAB 8 May 2013 17: 12 New
        -1
        Again this shifter in witnesses, when is the turnaround?
    6. gameover65
      gameover65 8 May 2013 19: 26 New
      +1
      but as for me it’s all this riffraff, just sick people. some realized that they can earn money from their illness, others are trying to infect as many people as possible, while others have the disease that hit the brain so much that they can no longer live in the real world. when the Soviet Union knew that they needed help, that’s what they kept them in asylums, which protected the people from various social viruses.
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    1. Ruslan67
      Ruslan67 8 May 2013 08: 39 New
      +3
      Quote: seller trucks
      Romanov, that's who got it, and

      Well, Romanov is still missing request I have been collecting a certain part of visitors lately love Do you seem to want to join their ranks? fellow One adiyet decided to attribute me first to a gang of marshals 2 then defined my mission as fighting trolls fool Do you have a couple of skulls or have special wishes? wassat
      1. seller trucks
        seller trucks 8 May 2013 08: 55 New
        0
        you first understand what it is about, and then threaten.

        http://topwar.ru/27694-kndr-vyvela-iz-rezhima-boegotovnosti-rakety-na-vostoke-st
        rany.html # comment-id-1136847

        and you don’t need to scare me with skulls, okay
  3. vania
    vania 8 May 2013 08: 24 New
    +2
    everything is bought
    1. seller trucks
      seller trucks 8 May 2013 08: 27 New
      +3
      Chef, everything is gone!
    2. does it
      does it 8 May 2013 08: 52 New
      -27
      Quote: vania
      everything is bought

      And so everything is clear! all these bog scenarios (and others as well) are products of the Kremlin, under a tight cap of gru and FSB, to show the world that we have “democracy” and freedom of speech.
      1. seller trucks
        seller trucks 8 May 2013 09: 02 New
        22
        Quote: kvirit
        "democracy" and freedom of speech.


        do you have children IMHO better "iron curtain" than "freedom of speech."
        1. Kushadasov
          Kushadasov 8 May 2013 09: 29 New
          +4
          golden words, youngest
        2. does it
          does it 8 May 2013 20: 09 New
          +1
          Quote: seller trucks
          do you have children IMHO better "iron curtain" than "freedom of speech."

          I don’t argue about the “freedom of speech”, but the iron curtain! that's too much....
          1. seller trucks
            seller trucks 8 May 2013 21: 58 New
            0
            clearly, no children
        3. Skunk
          Skunk 9 May 2013 02: 08 New
          -2
          Nevertheless, it is remarkable that such delusional thoughts are voiced only on the site of URAPATRIOTS.
  4. fenix57
    fenix57 8 May 2013 08: 29 New
    +5
    Well, - SPEAK ... Last year ... oh! And last year, for ..... no, no .... against! Against GDP, OK, AS IF IT'S AN OPPOSITION ... but FOR WHOM ... NONE ... JUST AGAINST .... MEANS AGAINST RUSSIA! THIS IS EXACTLY! .... A PARALLEL WITH 1905 WILL NOT BE RECEIVED ... hi
    1. Kaa
      Kaa 8 May 2013 11: 23 New
      +9
      Quote: fenix57
      MEANS AGAINST RUSSIA! THAT'S FOR SURE!
      Yes, they themselves do not really know. I remember a childish joke: "Winnie, Winnie, where are we going? -On the Swamp! -And why? - Why, why, have a stupid fat pig!" laughing
    2. captain dvv
      captain dvv 9 May 2013 02: 15 New
      +2
      Putin is not Russia. And to oppose Putin is to oppose theft and corruption, against the destruction of medicine. They don’t need her. They and all their relatives have been giving birth to everyone for a long time and are being treated beyond the hill.
      If you like this situation, then you are against Russia.
  5. JIaIIoTb
    JIaIIoTb 8 May 2013 08: 31 New
    +2
    All of them are smeared in one world, as I think everyone knows.
  6. Egoza
    Egoza 8 May 2013 08: 37 New
    19
    An interesting trend, however! In Moscow, the "opposition" gathers on Bolotnaya Square, in Kiev, "Independence Square", where the r-r-revolution blossomed, in the old days was a goat swamp ... And what good can grow on a swamp? laughing Although the pigs in the mud like to swim. Well, they would have depicted these figures in swamp mud and a puddle ... Beautiful? Hang yourself on the wall and admire! Oh! We still need to warn them! Indeed, the swamp can be dangerous, there are bogs there! This is how you speak, speak, and then - the boulevard with the rostrum, and there won't even be a trace! Here is your future, not comrades!
  7. pensioner
    pensioner 8 May 2013 08: 39 New
    21
    The legal term “foreign agent” for some reason causes rejection among those who are these agents.

    I suggest that they call themselves simply - pederasts will not let the filter through in any other way). Firstly, it is now fashionable, and secondly, it is also almost a prerequisite for friendship with the West. Ugh. I wipe the keyboard.
    1. Denis
      Denis 8 May 2013 11: 21 New
      +2
      Quote: retired
      The legal term “foreign agent” for some reason causes rejection among those who are these agents.

      I suggest that they call themselves simply - pederasts will not let the filter through in any other way). Firstly, it is now fashionable, and secondly, it is also almost a prerequisite for friendship with the West. Ugh. I wipe the keyboard.

      Precisely, there will be money for their activities, because of the cardon, to transport in the anus ... undeclared.
      1. a jacket
        a jacket 8 May 2013 18: 22 New
        -1
        exactly, exactly ..
  8. lewerlin53rus
    lewerlin53rus 8 May 2013 08: 40 New
    +8
    Opposition Russian media hastened to declare that Maxim Melkov held swamp views, and therefore the soul simply called him to help his "associates" ...

    The unscrupulousness of the opposition media is overwhelming. And here the death of a person is used to their advantage.
    And it seems that the majority came to Bolotnaya so out of curiosity and rest. The show is free.
  9. kostella85
    kostella85 8 May 2013 08: 45 New
    +5
    Let them hold rallies, it is written in our constitution, only after such an incident (the death of a guy), this is blasphemy in my opinion. On the other hand, with this act, the organizers discredited themselves !!!
  10. 123tank
    123tank 8 May 2013 08: 46 New
    10
    Some kind of booth "fifth column." And they eat Russian fat.
    1. captain dvv
      captain dvv 9 May 2013 21: 18 New
      +1
      Worldly example
      Hired a team of builders. agreed on the timing and budget.
      After a while they say that the money spent on the facility is not built for any reason. For a long time you will listen to the excuses of these builders. The most harmless thing you will do is drive away. You can certainly sue for the money spent.
      People who came to the rally, one of the 140 million dared to ask why not a single obedience to the president has been fulfilled and the money spent. Reform of housing and communal services, Ministry of Internal Affairs, Health, Army, Court, anti-corruption laws, doubling of GDP, etc., etc., etc. And is it not time for such workers to have a well-deserved rest.
  11. vladsolo56
    vladsolo56 8 May 2013 08: 46 New
    +6
    If we assume that 10 thousand people came to the rally, not one, not two, not even a hundred. Who gave the right to insult all who came. I am sure that not less than a million would stand next to them all over the country. But someone doesn’t give a damn. The position of humiliation and insult is the easiest way to defend your opinion. I was not at Bolotnaya, and did not even watch reports from there, I never supported and I do not support Navalny and Udaltsov, only I consider it a hundred to insult everyone who speaks critically about the leadership of our country, an indicator of illiteracy and lack of culture. Look around, rudeness and obscenity have become the norm in communication, anger and intolerance are the principles on which modern society is built. What do we want to build?
    1. stas52
      stas52 8 May 2013 09: 10 New
      19
      They criticize not everyone without exception, but I can’t just name the top of the so-called organizers of this PR campaign. One former prime minister, who at one time did such business, is still not being dismantled, another former deputy for some reason keeps silent about which of the deputies they trampled on, a third Nazi has no words at all, another socialite speaks only about cattle as a cattle. And then all of a sudden became guardians for you and me, that something does not converge. They just want to be on the wave and fall back to the trough.
      1. Grishka100watt
        Grishka100watt 8 May 2013 09: 44 New
        +5
        Daltsova, only now I think it’s one hundred and indiscriminately to insult everyone who speaks critically about the leadership of our country

        And those who come there either are traitors (if they understand whom they support in this case), or idiots (if they do not understand this), or even without a goal, they are simply there from the herd feeling.
        So why respect them ??
      2. captain dvv
        captain dvv 9 May 2013 02: 36 New
        -1
        The people did not come to the rally in order to support some kind of leader. They go to other events with this task, for example, to the Siliger congress. People came to say no to theft and corruption, the destruction of education and medicine, the destruction of an independent court. And all these people are the real patriots of Russia.
    2. pensioner
      pensioner 8 May 2013 09: 32 New
      12
      I am not against the opposition, dear. But against such an opposition. From their lips, talking about social justice for me personally has the same value as preaching about morality from the lips of a professional prostitute. That is the reason for the rejection of the "swamp" by society. It is necessary to tear from their hands the banner of the fight against negativity in society. By force. After all, they picked him up lying around, and not falling out of the hands of the fallen. (Pathos, but Nitsche, it happens). This is the task for worthy, patriotic people. But Putin did not introduce rudeness, intolerance and obscenities in Russia by decree. You are asking:
      Quote: vladsolo56
      What do we want to build?
      The answer is simple - first order in the minds, which is actually this swampy evil and does not really make it.
      1. AK44
        AK44 8 May 2013 11: 26 New
        +4
        Quote: retired
        From their lips, talking about social justice for me personally has the same value as preaching about morality from the lips of a professional prostitute.

        Such as Ksenia Sobchak for example. And what, quite a professional bl ..., oh, sorry, oppositionist laughing
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        2. a jacket
          a jacket 8 May 2013 18: 29 New
          0
          Correctly! Opposit means opposite. But how else, if all the time from the bottom. Then how can you not turn over, it’s the opposite anyway.
      2. captain dvv
        captain dvv 9 May 2013 11: 48 New
        0
        The order in the heads. And who will determine this order. That's just what all our troubles are from that WHAT PEOPLE HAVE UNDERSTANDED TO THINK INDEPENDENTLY. People are not zombies, but you want everyone under one hairstyle.
    3. Patton5
      Patton5 8 May 2013 09: 42 New
      13
      All this was already in Ukraine, rallies and protests, and prisoners of conscience, orange scarves ... But in the end, what ???? All these oppositionists are prostitutes bought by the "West" and all who support them are either fools or traitors to the motherland !!! The opposition should be constructive, and it should be blamed for the government in the kitchen .... And yes, to some extent, everyone disagrees with the authorities, just because everyone deep down considers himself smarter than others ...
      1. captain dvv
        captain dvv 9 May 2013 02: 51 New
        +1
        If I believe that it is impossible to steal, it is not good to keep my money in the USA at 0.25% per annum and to give my citizens a mortgage at 20%. To buy Sibneft from a friend Abramorovich for 16 billion is also bad. It’s not very good to bring crowds of migrants to Russia because of a reluctance to pay their citizens a decent salary. What to turn state medicine into a commercial enterprise is nonsense.
        Then I and all my friends, judging by you, consider ourselves smarter than others.
        1. Фокус
          Фокус 9 May 2013 22: 41 New
          0
          Quote: captain dvv
          If I believe that you can’t steal,
          I also think so and everyone thinks so what?
          Quote: captain dvv
          that keeping my money in the USA at 0.25% per annum and giving my citizens a mortgage at 20% is also not good

          And you are aware that in America everyone stores money, and it’s not the government, although this is not unimportant, but the fact that world trade is in dollars (reserve currency) and if any state wants to trade with everyone, it is forced to store money there where is the source of foreign exchange transactions. As for mortgages, they are issued by commercial banks (and of course not 20%), and in the USA they are kept state-owned and this, as they say, is “two different differences”, but the Central Bank gives money to Comm. banks at 7%. Now let's compare, in the USA, banks charge at 0,25 and issue a mortgage of 5-6%, that is, the difference is more than 20 times, in Russia 7% and they give out 12-14%, that is, twice. This shows the riskiness and profitability of bank capital. If the ruble was the world's reserve currency, we would be able to lower rates to the American ones. In the meantime, we are deeply dependent on their financial system. There are two ways out of this: 1. World War 2. Long and scrupulous work.
          Quote: captain dvv
          What to buy Sibneft from a friend Abramorovich for 16 billion is also bad
          Any rude pressure on our "big businessmen" negatively affects our investment climate, for which we are so sick, but here as they say - "the devil is in the details" and it is quite possible the "corruption component" added value, but professionals must understand this and we we can only rely on rumors and this is a shaky support. Otherwise, I completely agree and support you.
          The rest I am with you
          1. captain dvv
            captain dvv 10 May 2013 00: 02 New
            +1
            Yes, now 13 -14% on the mortgage. In 2009, a relative took 19.5% in the state bank. Currently, the average mortgage rate in the US is 3.2%. A friend in Canada signed up for 30 years at 2.9% and is not yet satisfied.
            To the account of the ruble. Just because the ruble is not a reserve currency, we can do whatever we consider necessary. There are plenty of examples ranging from the Swedish and Danish crowns to the former Estonian crowns. All of these currencies are not reserve currencies but rates have been kept extremely low.
            What we are told on TV about the impossibility of lowering the refinancing rate below inflation is nonsense. Already around the world they realized that money is not the ultimate value. Infrastructure, healthcare, science, education are values. And if you need to let money into the economy at 0.25% per annum with inflation of 3-4%, then this is not a problem for Americans and Europeans. By the way, about the same thing Glazyev offers.
            The company solved the problem of expensive loans by borrowing abroad in various forms - from the placement of shares that ultimately the same borrowing to direct loans from foreign banks. How it all ended in the face of mass margins. Call we all remember.
            That's just them there is a choice to take or not abroad. We have no such choice. It reminds me of a well-known phrase - we won’t give you to anyone, we will rob you ourselves.
    4. report4
      report4 8 May 2013 09: 44 New
      0
      Quote: vladsolo56
      If we assume that 10 thousand people came to the rally, not one, not two, not even a hundred. Who gave the right to insult all who came. What do we want to build?

      If we accept that select buggers came to the square, who know better than all other people what these same people need, then they should not be insulted, but destroyed.
    5. vladsolo56
      vladsolo56 8 May 2013 10: 02 New
      +6
      I want to answer those who instructed the cons, and who claims that everyone who came to the Swamp traitors and against Russia. In that case, where are our state security agencies? why there are no detentions, why there are no court decisions? One clever person wrote in the comments why Khabarov and Kvachkov were imprisoned, they gave long terms, but there is no Navalny and Udaltsov, you just have to scratch your tongue. A head to think talent is not enough. It’s just that this opposition is quite manageable and controlled, it is needed only to discredit everyone who is dissatisfied with the current government, anyone who wants to express their point of view. Those screamers like you will immediately attack and pour mud from head to toe. It’s good for you, it’s convenient for you, everything suits you. You do not care deeply about how the majority lives in the country. here is your position, that’s why you are ready to tear to shreds anyone who disagrees with you.
      1. Grishka100watt
        Grishka100watt 8 May 2013 10: 14 New
        +2
        I want to answer those who instructed the cons, and who claims that everyone who came to the Swamp traitors and against Russia. In that case, where are our state security agencies? why there are no detentions, why there are no court decisions? One clever person wrote in the comments why Khabarov and Kvachkov were imprisoned, they gave long terms, but there is no Navalny and Udaltsov, you just have to scratch your tongue. A head to think talent is not enough. It’s just that this opposition is quite manageable and controlled, it is needed only to discredit everyone who is dissatisfied with the current government, anyone who wants to express their point of view. Those screamers like you will immediately attack and pour mud from head to toe. It’s good for you, it’s convenient for you, everything suits you. You do not care deeply about how the majority lives in the country. here is your position, that’s why you are ready to tear to shreds anyone who disagrees with you.


        I do not understand. You first worried that the swamps were insulted, and now you ask why they are not being planted!

        Most of the country lives much better than under Yeltsin. For bread, sometimes with butter, sometimes with sausage, and many even sometimes with caviar enough! The army is gradually rearming, state employees are slowly raising their salaries.

        You are probably from that group of people who were sitting in the kitchen under Brezhnev and talked about how we are not living well, then when Gorbachev watched the GKChP on TV and also talked about how bad everything was and, as a result, the country was leaked!
        Then it was necessary to act, then !!!!
        Now thank you for saying that you’re alive at all.
        1. fartfraer
          fartfraer 8 May 2013 10: 24 New
          -6
          but in fact? no answer. do you say that if they are agents of the State Department, then why are they at large?
          “Most of the country lives much better than under Yeltsin.” - I agree, and oil is twice as expensive. By the way, compare taxes under Yeltsin and with GDP, by the way, google the territorial losses of the Russian Federation with GDP. In general, I agree with you, now you can and sausage, and even black caviar when it never falls. Putin-Medvedev’s course is undoubtedly more satisfying than Yeltsin’s course. And citizens are undoubtedly less intelligent if they eat the most important thing.
          don't choke on sausage
          1. BARKAS
            BARKAS 8 May 2013 10: 43 New
            +4
            Who gave the right to insult all who came.

            But who insults them, as a rule, usually laugh at them or regret that we have such an opposition, village fools in Russia didn’t when they did not insult just regret it!
            1. a jacket
              a jacket 8 May 2013 18: 31 New
              +3
              I belittle you! Tear the battery! I can’t watch! Or I’ll come help ....
          2. Grishka100watt
            Grishka100watt 8 May 2013 10: 43 New
            0
            but in fact? no answer. do you say that if they are agents of the State Department, then why are they at large?
            “Most of the country lives much better than under Yeltsin.” - I agree, and oil is twice as expensive. By the way, compare taxes under Yeltsin and with GDP, by the way, google the territorial losses of the Russian Federation with GDP. In general, I agree with you, now you can and sausage, and even black caviar when it never falls. Putin-Medvedev’s course is undoubtedly more satisfying than Yeltsin’s course. And citizens are undoubtedly less intelligent if they eat the most important thing.
            don't choke on sausage

            I didn’t speak with you, when I want to talk with you, I’ll write. I have no desire to answer the chatter.
            1. fartfraer
              fartfraer 8 May 2013 11: 57 New
              -4
              Yes, no question, do not have arguments in defending your opinion, you can not answer. The Internet territory is free, no one owes anything to anyone. Success
          3. captain dvv
            captain dvv 9 May 2013 12: 04 New
            +1
            Oil went up 8 times plus gas in the same proportion. So much for Putin’s success. When oil fell in 2008 from 150 to 40-50, all reserves were consumed in one year. Thanks to China with its state. stimulation and the United States for printing dough that rushed to the oil market. You have been in the store for a long time. Look - 80% of the goods are imported. I have only seen this in African countries.
            This is the logical result of Putin’s rule. According to the structure of the economy, we are somewhere in the region of Angola.
            1. Фокус
              Фокус 9 May 2013 15: 41 New
              -1
              Quote: captain dvv
              This is the logical result of Putin’s rule. According to the structure of the economy, we are somewhere in the region of Angola.

              Stop talking nonsense, if you do not understand these issues do not "clog the air."
              1. fartfraer
                fartfraer 9 May 2013 16: 31 New
                +1
                the fact is that this nonsense is around us, you can watch it, feel it, we live in an environment of what you call nonsense. and your truth is only in the “news” and on the president’s live broadcasts. so why believe me, far from the “marsh” man? what I see or what they say to me on TV?
                1. Фокус
                  Фокус 9 May 2013 21: 55 New
                  0
                  In psychology, there is such a thing - perception (perception), and so each person has their own perception, this is such a “filter” that passes through itself the entire flow of information, a vivid example of this is a pessimist and optimist. This "filter" is formed on the basis of personal experience, knowledge gained and received, as well as individual personality traits. As for the truth "surrounded" and "on TV", this difference will always be felt by a person, and the matter is not even a specific state and the level of propaganda but in a person. I can try to explain by the example of fluctuations in stock prices. We take the statistics of quotes of a stock. If we take the statistics for the day, we will see a variable rise and fall in the stock and we will have the impression that this security is not reliable. If we take the statistics for half a year, the curve will level out and we will get the impression that these stocks are stable and our confidence in them will increase. And let's take statistics for three years and see that stock prices are rising and there will already be a positive opinion. So, our environment (friends, colleagues, family, acquaintances), the media, this is “statistics for the day”, if a person has the opportunity and most importantly the desire to break out of “this” and see problems from the outside (not biased - turn off pessimism or optimism in his head) to understand the direction of history, compare the 90s and 2000s, taking into account the input of various parameters and input, then he is able to feel and understand other "statistics".
        2. vladsolo56
          vladsolo56 8 May 2013 11: 18 New
          -5
          THANK! and to whom you personally or maybe can tell you whom I should thank, that I live better than under Ivan the Terrible.
          1. Grishka100watt
            Grishka100watt 8 May 2013 11: 48 New
            -2
            THANK! and to whom you personally or maybe can tell you whom I should thank, that I live better than under Ivan the Terrible.

            To fate.
            I personally do not need it, say thank you to fate, finally figure out what happened to the country after 1991, and wish good health to those people who saved Russia, Putin among them.
            1. Grishka100watt
              Grishka100watt 9 May 2013 18: 05 New
              0
              Minuser: you don’t deserve such a normal life, because you never feel gratitude, you just have few, and you drag others along. Nothing, soon they will take up normally for you, will be responsible for your words. Soon, the bazaar will be dangerous in the sense that you will have to answer, because The situation in the world is already serious.
              1. fartfraer
                fartfraer 9 May 2013 19: 13 New
                +1
                bazaar, bot, everything will be soon. half of the commentators (I will not specifically indicate which, because this is not a "political" observation, but simply by the number of "from both camps") writes his comments without accepting the opposite side of the dialogue arguments minus in tyrnet mean nothing, do not worry)
          2. krokodil25
            krokodil25 8 May 2013 19: 16 New
            0
            Quote: vladsolo56
            THANK! and to whom you personally or maybe can tell you whom I should thank, that I live better than under Ivan the Terrible.

            Well, if you want your position, say thank you wassat
          3. does it
            does it 8 May 2013 20: 12 New
            0
            Quote: vladsolo56
            THANK! and to whom you personally or maybe can tell you whom I should thank, that I live better than under Ivan the Terrible.

            probably; USSR
          4. pensioner
            pensioner 8 May 2013 20: 24 New
            0
            Quote: vladsolo56
            THANK! and to whom you personally or maybe can tell you whom I should thank, that I live better than under Ivan the Terrible.

            Time.
      2. Patton5
        Patton5 8 May 2013 11: 04 New
        +2
        This is exactly how they argue in the kitchen jumping from topic to topic, oil has risen in price again, rockets do not fly, young people are not inferior to a pensioner in a trolleybus, everything is sold and drunk, and so on without a trace ........... Play on the aspirations of the people, crawl to the top of power, sit there legs dangling and spit on those whom the milk rivers promised. And most importantly, scolding, scolding, scolding, the previous government that they supposedly "pissed off all the polymers" and are now recovering for hundreds of years, so you need to tighten your belts. Therefore, we didn’t go to la already in 1991, we ate too much .... We need to start the opposition from oneself (at least not to drink beer in public places Article 20.20. Administrative Code of the Russian Federation)
      3. Mairos
        Mairos 8 May 2013 11: 18 New
        +4
        Traitors are caught, but fools and "naive Chukchi youth" are not supposed to be planted. They are supposed to endure while they are growing up. You really don’t have to roll up to rudeness, but you need to have brains in your head or not get into politics even at the level of shouting “Down!”. Because the fool is easy to use blindly, he will not even understand who, how and why he used it. Like a drunken girl, in the morning after drinking.
    6. igor.borov775
      igor.borov775 8 May 2013 12: 23 New
      +3
      Lord one more woke up, Before you blame the authorities for theft, you yourself have to be honest, Very interesting things happen to some fighters against corruption and power, Mr. Ponomarev being at the post of representative power, taking advantage of the deputy’s laws granted to him, I managed to cut down the money for my the project, But there were other representatives of the parliament and the presidential administration and they did not work for a fee. On Mr. Solovyov’s transfer, he was asked the question: WHY ?, the answer was not convincing, he said about himself that he was the best, most intelligent, etc. , I believe that it used to be the best one when he raised the Siberian Academy, but in the past and now, the Host just said almost everyone gasped and officials and deputies can imagine you can get the money from the state for meetings like that, but he smiled and still I insisted the best I paid taxes, Probably I took many of the university professors and professors in a flurry listening to the revelations of this gentleman, And Do you want to be trusted? You killed all YOUR pure intentions with your own hands, Putin is a thief, take a look at yourself, you don’t notice anything, And the log is really weighty, THERE IS NO MORE FAITH FOR YOU !!
    7. krokodil25
      krokodil25 8 May 2013 13: 05 New
      +5
      Quote: vladsolo56
      Who gave the right to insult all who came. I’m sure that all over the country, at least a million would stand next to them

      Who gave the right to these b ... holes to go out onto the square altogether, no, I understand the opposition, but they are solid prostitutes and all kinds of trash. And as for the fact that they would have stood up to at least a million, and if on the other hand you looked no matter how much there would be 10 million people. does this not suggest you ?!
      1. pensioner
        pensioner 8 May 2013 20: 36 New
        +2
        Quote: krokodil25
        Who gave the right to these b ... holes to go out onto the square,

        Well, really, we don’t have good shooters in Moscow ... Or maybe there is a problem with ammunition?
    8. yur
      yur 8 May 2013 22: 28 New
      +2
      Yes, you look WHO is criticizing. These critics have ruined and sold the country, and now they have the audacity to open their mouths to those who are at least trying to restore something.
  12. omsbon
    omsbon 8 May 2013 08: 47 New
    +5
    The flames of a gay struggle for freedom will flare up in the swamp. And we put it out and drain it!
    1. pensioner
      pensioner 8 May 2013 09: 44 New
      +7
      Quote: omsbon
      And we will put it out

      Pioneering ...
  13. aszzz888
    aszzz888 8 May 2013 08: 50 New
    +4
    We have very soft laws, All these bald and so forth "positioners" bought for loot from Ta .... shvili (see the CIA) behave like political idiots .... When all this swamp is already transplanted!
    1. d1m1drol
      d1m1drol 8 May 2013 10: 01 New
      0
      You know, looking at what Caucasians and Asians do ... I regret that we have almost no bald people left. After all, the rest "law enforcement" committed FSU ... what is happening. And as for the article ... there was a moment when the protest mood and I was overwhelmed ..but! When the noise calmed down a bit, I began to analyze the facts and came to the conclusion that I was mistaken. That although social injustice exists, in general, life is getting better. And I realized that the path was chosen correctly. As for the chaos of bureaucrats .. I hope that they all will be rewarded.
      And bulk, beeps, tweets, and so on ... for organizing riots and trying to rebel everyone for a count ... for twenty-five years ... or bring down forests in the taiga ... or mine uranium in Kazakhstan)
      1. Mairos
        Mairos 8 May 2013 11: 21 New
        +1
        Well you are my friend and a sadist !! For a count of twenty years. They don’t live on Coke for so long !! belay
        1. folds
          folds 8 May 2013 16: 14 New
          +1
          Well then, five years of execution :)
          1. Landwarrior
            Landwarrior 9 May 2013 12: 20 New
            +1
            Quote: plis
            Well then, five years of execution :)

            Life imprisonment with hanging at the end of term on an electric chair in a gas chamber by hanging laughing
  14. Dmitry_2013
    Dmitry_2013 8 May 2013 08: 51 New
    +7
    70-80 meters from the “epicenter”, people sat on the posters that they brought (handed to them by the “right opposition”) and played ... some cards, some on the guitar, some who poured beer, skillfully carried hidden and carried onto the square in plastic bottles.

    Yes, what kind of opposition is it? So the people of beer gathered to drink and be mean. Nothing worth it.
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  16. Boris55
    Boris55 8 May 2013 08: 56 New
    +8
    Blevada center, receiving money from abroad and declared a "foreign agent" conducted a social survey among Russians, but he among Russians, 80-90% of the population did not try to conduct a survey?
    1. Rrv
      Rrv 8 May 2013 12: 56 New
      0
      According to the latest Russian census, 78%.
  17. Yves762
    Yves762 8 May 2013 08: 56 New
    0
    These people have little to do with the real opposition to the current government. And it makes no sense to go sharo ... to fight on the Maidan-Swamp (tm): the power of the protesters will be heard only by those who cast the witchcraft “blocking the railway (and other) paths”.
    (perk "worker" and 120% skill "tenacity" required) am
  18. domokl
    domokl 8 May 2013 09: 00 New
    +6
    What the marshland demonstrates is possible only in Moscow. A bunch of party-goers who play politics. Putin's law on financing control is thought to finish this squalor very quickly.
  19. djon3volta
    djon3volta 8 May 2013 09: 00 New
    +8
    In Libya, Syria and Bahrain - a real paradise for all the marsh opposition. They strive for a better life, to shoot from granotometami, to blow up houses, to pour the blood of children on the streets. In addition, swamp hamsters strive for a better life ..
    Here you are all groaning and yelling: industry is ruined, there is no industry ... But in the modern world, industry has moved to China and other backward countries, and in the West, for example, another structure of the economy, more and more banking and financial sector, IT technology, market , trading, design, etc. and industry has halved and gone into the "third world" and pollutes nature there.
    Yes, all these Navalny, Nemtsovs are tired of, are eager for the budget, but they are not allowed in, that’s the whole truth.
    1. fartfraer
      fartfraer 8 May 2013 10: 29 New
      +3
      mother, that’s what it is)) Putin’s adherents don’t even need industry) dream of Swiss experience?) and really, why do we need industry? more banks, everything in managers, hard workers generally need to be eradicated as a class. and the fact that China has suffered the least you shouldn’t even recall from the crisis, the main thing is that developed countries are in a deep .. "hole", and the Russian Federation is also there. In this, our figures are almost equal to European countries.
      Monsieur in a hat can take the trouble to explain how he sees the economy of the Russian Federation without industry? If you do not have directives from the edra on this subject, you can not bother. If there is, share it.
      1. Dmitry_2013
        Dmitry_2013 8 May 2013 10: 54 New
        +1
        Can you name a specific opposition to Putin and Co.? Existing?
        1. Mairos
          Mairos 8 May 2013 11: 26 New
          +4
          Now there is no worthy alternative to Putin’s team! If they lose power, then it will be picked up by bulk-Medvedev-Chubais. This is even worse .. much !!
          1. Rrv
            Rrv 8 May 2013 13: 00 New
            -10
            Quote: Mairos
            Now there is no worthy alternative to Putin’s team! If they lose power, then it will be picked up by bulk-Medvedev-Chubais. This is even worse .. much !!
          2. captain dvv
            captain dvv 9 May 2013 12: 19 New
            +2
            Yes, you are very bad about the population of Russia. 140 million and there is no alternative. We are what an African country.
            For 13 years, the Putin organized crime group created a situation in which everyone would say that there is no alternative to Putin. Nonsense. Unlike you, I believe in my country and people and I know that in the country there are a lot of smart and decent people who would lead the country much better than Putin.
        2. Boris55
          Boris55 8 May 2013 11: 55 New
          +1
          Quote: Dmitry_2013
          Can you name a specific opposition to Putin and Co.? Existing?

          Putin outlined his position in his seven articles (http://klin.hutt.ru/viewforum.php?id=23&p=2 - there you will find them all) and the implemented May decrees of the 2012 of the year.
          If you are not familiar with them, how can you judge Putin? You just don’t understand what he is doing.
          1. Dmitry_2013
            Dmitry_2013 8 May 2013 12: 18 New
            0
            I will get acquainted, but the question is not about that. Who can you really vote for and be sure that he can handle Putin’s place? What will he replace him and do better?
            1. Boris55
              Boris55 8 May 2013 12: 31 New
              +2
              Quote: Dmitry_2013
              Who can you really vote for and be sure that he can handle Putin’s place?

              With this pack of "rabid dogs" who seized power in 90, only Putin. All the rest - they will devour.
            2. Rrv
              Rrv 8 May 2013 13: 08 New
              -8
              Quote: Dmitry_2013
              Who can you really vote for and be sure that he can handle Putin’s place? What will he replace him and do better?


              As far as I remember, when EBN appointed Pu as his successor, for some reason nobody cared that Pu might be worse than Bori. So what is it that everyone is so worried now?

              And the answer is simple - Kremlin propaganda (s).
          2. Boris55
            Boris55 8 May 2013 13: 30 New
            -2
            Putin for the personal responsibility of the ministers.



            So let's see who studied what ...
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            2. Rrv
              Rrv 8 May 2013 14: 15 New
              -2
              Quote: Boris55
              Putin for the personal responsibility of the ministers.


              And Putin is against rising prices for housing and communal services tariffs - and what?
              1. kostella85
                kostella85 8 May 2013 14: 32 New
                +2
                And Putin for supporting small and medium-sized businesses !!!

                from the age of 14, excise taxes on fuels of Euro 4 and Euro 5 are doubled, a tax is introduced for the legal persons on buildings at the cadastral value of the property!
          3. captain dvv
            captain dvv 9 May 2013 12: 41 New
            +2
            I am an adult and I believe not in words but in deeds. What of what Putin said was done-Nothing.
            And his affairs - theft in the Moscow region, in Skolkovo, at the summit of Vladivostok, at the construction of Olympic facilities, I see. I see that the last accused was released in the case of prosecutors. I see that Serdyukov is free. Therefore, I do not believe his words about the fight against corruption.
            When Putin says words about supporting industry and agriculture, I also don’t believe it because I see with my own eyes the rates in banks at 20%. And after that, our industry must compete with that in which loans in the country are issued at 1-5%.
            When Putin talks about the fight against prices in the housing and communal services, I don’t believe it either, because gas prices and electricity are raised by government decrees. I will tell you a secret that we in Russia already pay for electricity and gas in the region of what the American and Canadian pay. And after the next increase we will pay more than they.
            Do not believe the words, but believe the deeds - this is my advice.
        3. fartfraer
          fartfraer 8 May 2013 12: 00 New
          -1
          I cannot, therefore, I said and say that while there is no one really ready to come to power, slogans such as “Putin must leave” are, in my opinion, childish nonsense. However, this is not a reason to praise the president. And criticism of him has good reason. that's all.
          1. Dmitry_2013
            Dmitry_2013 8 May 2013 12: 15 New
            +1
            however, this is not a reason to praise the president. And criticism of him has enough reasons. That's all.

            criticism of the problem and power should be constructive, with proposed solutions to the problem.
            It is fashionable among our people to buzz in the kitchen about how everything is bad, and when you ask what needs to be done to make it good, everyone shuts up, and some even say that if I were the president, I would put things in order. No specifics, no real offers. Most would just criticize, and as you say, figure it out, think, no one needs it right away. There were no ready-made solutions and will not be !!!
            And there are a lot of them, and this is a real problem!
            1. fartfraer
              fartfraer 8 May 2013 12: 36 New
              +3
              You won’t believe, in every post on this topic they talk to me about constructive criticism. About presumptive ways to solve problems, etc. and in every post I answer it with the same words)
              As an option, I will answer you again.
              So, the proposals: 1-nationalization of the raw material base (oil, gas, timber, etc.) and energy systems. For what? The huge component of the prime cost is the price of energy, transportation costs, etc. Do you know what the cost of electricity is for an entrepreneur-factory etc. twice as much as for a citizen consumer. why? why do the rewards of top management of RAO UES exceed the annual income of all teachers of any Tomsk school? (just an example). Further, the state should sell gasoline from its refinery principle cost price + 10% (for example) for ITS citizens. this also applies to electricity.
              2-by number, but in fact should be the first - increasing the confidence of citizens in the judicial system and the prosecutor's office (first of all). It is not so difficult to ensure the independence of the court - for example, pass a law on which 1-3% (just approximate figures) of the total budget states go to the courts (maintaining their work, costs, etc.) so that the district judge doesn’t depend on the head of the district of the prosecutor’s office should not have “not our competence” when the ordinary citizen addresses the court there should be no court fees from the applicant, money should be received on the decision of the case from the losing side. In short, much more can be written on this issue.
              3-if it is known that such-and-such people get money from the "State Department or other foreign countries" to immediately arrest, we do not forget that this is quite in the spirit of world politics (the arrest of Russian agents of influence in the states, chapman, etc., you should remember).
              in general, short-resources are only in state ownership (100%), defense and strategic production (power systems, water utilities, etc.) are only in state ownership, medium and small business (albeit large too) receives reduced costs for by reducing the cost of electricity, fuel. Remove or minimize the wildest taxes on an entrepreneur, but achieve 100% collection (there is a lot about this, it's lazy to write. However, in general, a simple example is NEP. There was a 5% tax, the penalty for non-payment was harsh, the economy grew by leaps and bounds)
              1. fartfraer
                fartfraer 8 May 2013 12: 44 New
                +1
                By the way, if I can be interested, I can also make complaints) well, so that you do not find the criticism unreasonable)
              2. Dmitry_2013
                Dmitry_2013 8 May 2013 12: 56 New
                -2
                These are good proposals, but their level requires either a presidential term and a good team, or a revolution and also a good team, because no one wants to give anything away.
                One must either lower the level to at least the local level, or participate in the elections and prepare the program.
                And so we have a level of discussion "like in the kitchen." Or are there any specific actions from you on the above?
                1. fartfraer
                  fartfraer 8 May 2013 13: 06 New
                  0
                  I don’t have it) I’ll even say more, it’s not all of which I came up with. But there is a lot of information like this, people think in this direction and possibly conjecture before the party.
                  “These are good proposals, but their level requires either a presidential term and a good team, or a revolution and also a good team, because no one wants to give anything away.” - Unfortunately, I have to leave, work. But partly my criticism of the president is connected precisely with his team and the term that he is in power one way or another with such a scanty result (there is a positive result, I don’t deny it. it just seems to me scanty that's all)
                  Well, about my specific actions I am writing a post, I will post it here after the holidays. It does not concern politics, but I hope to find like-minded people and associates.
                  1. Dmitry_2013
                    Dmitry_2013 8 May 2013 13: 15 New
                    -1
                    There are a lot of infa, but often she lacks the rationale and detailed calculations. This is where you wrote the word roughly.
                    in part, my criticism of the president is connected precisely with his team and the term that he is in power in one way or another with such a scanty result (there is a positive result, I don’t deny it. it just seems to me scanty that's all)

                    and you admit that not all the result and not all of his efforts are visible to you?
                    There is a proverb "Well, where we are not"
                    1. fartfraer
                      fartfraer 8 May 2013 15: 23 New
                      0
                      I agree in the sense that I will not provide calculations for the economy to you, but with regard to the legal side of the comment, it is spelled out in some countries that the budget of the judicial system is 4% of the country's budget. The court does not depend on the executive in financial terms, therefore it is not affected ruling people in court decisions. there are simple ways to fight corruption) all this is already applied somewhere, you only need desire. Of course, this is not a 100% "panacea", but the level can really be reduced. By the way, I want to publicly express the positive about the Tomsk traffic police- many familiar drivers and no one has come across extortion of a bribe. our gayts - "people"))
          2. Dmitry_2013
            Dmitry_2013 8 May 2013 13: 08 New
            0
            fartfraer RU Today, 12:00
            I can’t, therefore, I said and say that while there is no one really ready to come to power

            You claim that there is no alternative to Putin
            fartfraer RU Today, 10:24
            Putin-Medvedev’s course is undoubtedly more satisfying than Yeltsin’s course, and citizens are undoubtedly less intelligent if they eat the most important thing.
            don't choke on sausage

            And then call those who do not see the alternative as fools!
            so are you full or not? contradict yourself! It looks like populism.
            1. fartfraer
              fartfraer 8 May 2013 15: 17 New
              +2
              what is populism? the common sense of the two expressions that you cited as an example is there is no alternative (at least I don’t know, I can be mistaken), but the course of the current government and the president is very far from ideal and, in my personal opinion (I do not impose on anyone , you may not agree) is the course of colonial administration.
              for example, the very first thing in my answer above is nationalization. Chavez didn’t need 13 years in power to spend it, “he had a man’s eggs.” You can collect about ten such examples.
    2. Mairos
      Mairos 8 May 2013 11: 23 New
      +2
      Sir, science and education are only there and where industry is. Otherwise, they begin to die. Europe and the United States are proof of this, just this process is not fast .. but inevitable.
    3. Harleone
      Harleone 8 May 2013 19: 00 New
      +1
      Madness ... Do you know what madness is, Jason? This is the repetition of the same person as president over and over again in the hope of change good
  20. shinobi
    shinobi 8 May 2013 09: 01 New
    +2
    Strange all the same, the opposition in Russia. Do they really believe that even if the Feisty leaves, disappears, I don’t know there, you never know, someone will give them power and let them go to the feeder. They need morons to pray for the health of the GDP, so that as much as possible he lived and dominated longer. Then PR will be for them, and foreign friends will throw money on bread and butter.
    1. Rrv
      Rrv 8 May 2013 13: 14 New
      0
      Quote: shinobi
      Strange all the same in Russia, the opposition.


      And who told you that this is the opposition? Themselves? bully
  21. horoh
    horoh 8 May 2013 09: 05 New
    +5
    I read a few lines, and then it became disgusting. With regards to the gay struggle for freedom, we will not put out and dry it, but we WILL CRUSH AND EXPLOIT !!!!
  22. Nesvet Nezar
    Nesvet Nezar 8 May 2013 09: 10 New
    +2
    I do not agree with those who disagree. I think that they need to allocate land in the Far East - let them show how to live. Although the Kirov region has already been given to them - something is not visible there of the success of democracy and capitalism ....
    1. djon3volta
      djon3volta 8 May 2013 09: 12 New
      +6
      Quote: Nesarya Nesvet
      Although they were given the Kirov region

      Kirov forest - the opposite will be sat thief laughing
      1. d1m1drol
        d1m1drol 8 May 2013 10: 03 New
        0
        wassat a hundred times would plyusanul))
      2. pensioner
        pensioner 8 May 2013 20: 26 New
        -1
        Quote: djon3volta
        Kirov forest - on the contrary, it will be the village of Kori

        But it is true!
    2. pensioner
      pensioner 8 May 2013 09: 48 New
      +1
      Quote: Nesarya Nesvet
      I do not agree with those who disagree. I think that they need to allocate land in the Far East - let them show how to live. Although the Kirov region has already been given to them - something is not visible there of the success of democracy and capitalism ....


      And what are the little things. I offer the whole island. Yes, and ideologically close to them in name. Wrangel.
    3. fartfraer
      fartfraer 8 May 2013 10: 33 New
      +3
      "I think that they need to allocate land in the Far East - let them show how to live. Although they have already given them the Kirov region - that you can’t see the successes of democracy and capitalism there ...." - an interesting thought))
      I’m not familiar with the “swamps” what they have there for rallies in Siberia and I can’t see)
      but according to the comment there is a comment, we have many regions where edirasts are shown, only there are no more successes than in the Kirov region. how do you explain this?
      1. Rrv
        Rrv 8 May 2013 13: 16 New
        0
        How do you explain this?
      2. stroporez
        stroporez 8 May 2013 14: 07 New
        +2
        Vovan sincerely believes that the minimum wage in Russia is 19 rubles, I think about other things he has the same idea .............
        1. Rrv
          Rrv 8 May 2013 14: 52 New
          -1
          Quote: stroporez
          Vovan sincerely believes that the minimum wage in Russia is 19 rubles, I think about other things he has the same idea .............


          Rather, he sincerely wants to convince those with a minimum salary of 5000 - and it looks like he is doing it so far.
          1. stroporez
            stroporez 8 May 2013 15: 54 New
            +1
            yes to me ....... on what he wants to convince. Koresh Evony (Medvedev) wants to pay monthly payments to all kinds of social funds there, he wants to attach them to the minimum wage. not that 20% of 19425 ......... but who cares ??, our government seems to have printed two arithmetic operations in the skull ---- removed and divided ...... ...
            1. Rrv
              Rrv 8 May 2013 16: 17 New
              +1
              There’s nothing to take away, now you can only redo or return.

              In general, it is very significant that the average salary in the country is at the level at which the minimum should be - and not only should, but it can. Such a low level of salaries is caused not by economic problems, but by the existing system of distribution of goods, that is, the targeted NE-liberal policy of the Government, personified in the person of Mr. Putman.
    4. polly
      polly 8 May 2013 18: 38 New
      +2
      That's just in the Far East, these swamp kikimors and ghouls were not enough!
  23. wulf66
    wulf66 8 May 2013 09: 14 New
    +6
    These marsh squalid do not cause anything but a sense of disgust. They are always against, but for whom? And buzz: do not consider us traitors ... Ugh.
  24. optimist
    optimist 8 May 2013 09: 15 New
    +8
    Dear forum users! Do you really think that these shniki, whom we are shown by zombies, are the real opposition ??? In that case, I, the English queen !!! laughing Another show for l.oh. !!! The real opposition is people like Kvachkov and Khabarov !!! The guy rolled up quietly for 13 years with the corresponding article ... Surely all these Nemtsov-bulk-Sobchak and others have the approval and the gesheft from the Putininoid authorities for distracting the old man from real problems. The current “vertical” clearly cuts the moment: as soon as a really dangerous opponent appears, he immediately gets into the jail or, at best, is washed off over a hill.
    1. djon3volta
      djon3volta 8 May 2013 09: 58 New
      +3
      the interaction of power and the opposition looks like this laughing laughing laughing hamsters will always drive you.
      1. optimist
        optimist 8 May 2013 12: 30 New
        +2
        You’re some kind of inept self-taught troll ... If only you could come up with your own, otherwise Surkov propaganda cliches can be made from you like a dog from a train station shawarma ... no
    2. Rrv
      Rrv 8 May 2013 13: 20 New
      -3
      Quote: optimist
      Surely all of these Nemtsov-bulk-Sobchak and others have the approval and the gesheft from the Putinoid government for distracting the formerly from the real problems


      + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +
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      2. AK44
        AK44 8 May 2013 14: 34 New
        +2
        Quote: RRV
        distraction of used labor from real problems

        Explain pliz what or who is meant by the word b.p.d.o.?
        1. Rrv
          Rrv 8 May 2013 14: 50 New
          -4
          Quote: AK44
          Quote: RRV
          distraction of used labor from real problems

          Explain at last, who is constantly called b.s.


          Their:
          1. AK44
            AK44 8 May 2013 15: 47 New
            +1
            Now it is clear! Can you give an example then NOT byd.d.lo.?
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            2. Rrv
              Rrv 8 May 2013 17: 02 New
              -2
              Quote: AK44
              Now it is clear! Can you give an example then NOT byd.d.lo.?


              Are you capable of thinking independently, not believing what was said, but checking information, comparing, and not thoughtlessly repeating after someone? If so, then this is you.
              1. AK44
                AK44 8 May 2013 20: 48 New
                0
                Those. - the vast majority of citizens, don’t, or do you disagree with this? Then why do I and many other people have to go after Nemtsov, Navalny, Shenderovich and other rabble, who openly call the Russian people this disgusting word. If you are in solidarity with them, then go to ....!
                1. Rrv
                  Rrv 8 May 2013 23: 45 New
                  -1
                  No need about the Germans and other things - who they are is clear. But for many it seems unclear on whose side they are playing.

                  Do you support Vova? You are right - he did not call Russian cattle - rejoice at it! Vova lowered the democratic majority (72% at the moment) in another way:



                  Do you need to remind about the minimum wages below the subsistence minimum, the surrender of the economy to the West, and, in fact, genocide?
                  1. Rrv
                    Rrv 9 May 2013 01: 30 New
                    0
                    Amendment - 78%
        2. optimist
          optimist 8 May 2013 14: 58 New
          +2
          At least those who sincerely consider the characters in this article to be real opposition. Any sane person who knows how to draw independent conclusions should understand that all these “swamp plays” are fairy tales for fools. Naturally, I do not blame indiscriminately all the people who came to these protests. Of course, there were many honest and conscientious citizens trying to demonstrate their attitude to the current government and what is happening in the country. But to believe that the Germans, Kasparovs, dogs and other rot, OPPOSITION !!!, - can only be a complete id.i.ot ... recourse Pop Gapon, who 108 years ago led the people under royal bullets, as you know, was a regular provocateur of the royal secret police. Here are those who forgot this, and I think it would be.
          1. kostella85
            kostella85 8 May 2013 15: 10 New
            +1
            Quote: optimist
            Of course, there were many honest and conscientious citizens trying to demonstrate their attitude to the current government and what is happening in the country. But to believe that the Germans, Kasparovs, dogs and other rot, OPPOSITION !!!, - can only be a complete id.i.ot ...


            + + + + + +

            That's what we are talking about, everyone who does not like the current government to call rams and fools, it smells like dementia. And to the question "Who if not Vova?", Out of 140, I think 000-000 people with difficulty, but you can CHOOSE !!!
  25. shark
    shark 8 May 2013 09: 24 New
    +5
    Here again, I look at the hamster assembly at Bolotnaya and see the imperial flag. Question, what the hell are they doing there?
    1. Kushadasov
      Kushadasov 8 May 2013 09: 36 New
      +4
      I agree that for the fools got out with these flags on this booth? Yes, next to the rainbow. It's a shame also for the red flag. Not there he should be. IMHO not everyone fully understood and figured out who is who. Although what other arguments are needed when the Germans, Kasyanovs, Shenderovichs and other professional traitors stand on the podium ...
      1. d1m1drol
        d1m1drol 8 May 2013 10: 06 New
        +1
        As for the pid ... of gay minorities, as long as I live I will not let this infection grow! Up to the physical elimination of the rudiments of a pid ... gay ....
    2. waisson
      waisson 8 May 2013 10: 31 New
      0
      there are mummers and there are those bought. to ban all these hamsters from plowing and sowing
    3. artemiy
      artemiy 8 May 2013 14: 19 New
      +2
      Shame! Empire reptiles!
  26. Renat
    Renat 8 May 2013 09: 41 New
    +2
    Yes, to hell with them with the demagogues. Enough for men to sit at the computer. Aydate to the street. There is a labor holiday. All colors are cleaned up clean up. We will make a feasible contribution to the pre-holiday preparations. After all, preparation for the holiday is sometimes even better than the holiday itself.
    1. stroporez
      stroporez 8 May 2013 14: 12 New
      0
      already ......... it's a pity there’s nothing to photograph .... you don’t have to judge about the whole of Russia on Moskvabad. and they got out and painted and went to the old people to help .... just these people with whom I work- --- They do not show on TV, but in vain ........
    2. a jacket
      a jacket 8 May 2013 18: 37 New
      -1
      Quote: Renat
      Yes, to hell with them with the demagogues. Enough for men to sit at the computer. Aydate to the street. There is a labor holiday. All colors are cleaned up clean up. We will make a feasible contribution to the pre-holiday preparations. After all, preparation for the holiday is sometimes even better than the holiday itself.

      And I spend a clean-up at the workplace. And for the benefit of the country. Can?
  27. smart ass
    smart ass 8 May 2013 09: 44 New
    +3
    Everyone can say against, but who do you propose to replace ??? Prokhorov ??? Duck excuse me is the one who builds cars! probably 10 years as he builds! Look out the window at the parking lot ... How many mobile phones are there ??? And I mean too, with a tongue to grind all the masters
    1. pensioner
      pensioner 8 May 2013 10: 10 New
      +2
      Quote: Clever man
      Sorry, this is the one who builds cars! probably 10 years as he builds! Look out the window at the parking lot ... How many mobile phones are there ??? And I mean too, with a tongue to grind all the masters

      And really! Where is the ё-mobile, ё-mother, and Mikhail Dmitrievich? Che, too, sp .. ** dili?
    2. Rrv
      Rrv 8 May 2013 13: 24 New
      0
      Quote: Clever man
      Everyone can say against, but who do you propose to replace ???
      1. Rrv
        Rrv 8 May 2013 13: 25 New
        +2
        --------------------------
        1. AK44
          AK44 8 May 2013 20: 56 New
          -2
          What is the name of the person (president) who would have pulled the country out of the mess of the 90s in two counts?
          1. fartfraer
            fartfraer 8 May 2013 22: 08 New
            0
            13 years is not in two counts. Although this is just a replica .. to complete the picture
          2. Rrv
            Rrv 9 May 2013 00: 22 New
            -2
            Yuri Boldyrev, Yuri Mukhin, Valentin Katasonov, Mikhail Khazin, Mikhail Delyagin, Vladimir Kvachkov, Sergey Glazyev and, at worst, Zyuganov and Mironov - this is a snap.

            PS I’ll tell you this: any leader will come down if he has to answer for his actions and fulfill the social order of the majority.

            You are not catching up: the president is not some kind of super dude, this is just the supreme COORDINATOR, in our case, the coordinator endowed with powers close to those of the monarch.

            It’s worth mentioning, by the way, that Pu didn’t get anyone out of nowhere - by the two thousandths the mess of the 90s had already ended.
            1. smart ass
              smart ass 9 May 2013 19: 20 New
              0
              Ahahaha zyugano with Mironov !!! Ahahahaha)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))) )))))))) I will burst
              1. Rrv
                Rrv 9 May 2013 21: 38 New
                0
                Why are comrades siu and mi, who are currently working for Mr. Pu, worse than the named Mr.?
  28. djon3volta
    djon3volta 8 May 2013 09: 48 New
    +4
    If you periodically have a question, where do all these revolutionaries work, then here's the answer - they work in various “foundations” and “public organizations”. A kind of professional political prostitution. Somewhere else to work for him in this case unnecessarily. Moreover, American funds generously pay for the banquet.
    1. fartfraer
      fartfraer 8 May 2013 10: 37 New
      -3
      those. You claim that you know such infa 100%, and the FSB officers "do not itch?") you say that the FSB officers ignore the fact of the activities of foreign agents?
      yes, it turns out that we are generally defenseless before the states, even the Chekists can do nothing. why?
  29. Ivan
    Ivan 8 May 2013 09: 53 New
    +3
    The fact that Hahal Sobchak-Yashin claims about 50 thousand protesters is not a calculation, but a report to the Washington regional committee. Green grandmothers pay for every soul. For this fraternity, not a rally is important, but payment. Naive people believe and go to fight for a better share.
  30. JonnyT
    JonnyT 8 May 2013 09: 57 New
    +2
    Reckoned "opposition" !!! Nowadays foreign co-papas will be deprived of their prizes in this quarter .......))))) wassat
  31. awg75
    awg75 8 May 2013 10: 00 New
    +4
    boggy on the bunks. in general, the enemies of the motherland must be shot, but we are a humane state --- therefore, on the bunks
    1. fartfraer
      fartfraer 8 May 2013 10: 39 New
      0
      "in general, the enemies of the motherland must be shot," - I completely agree. The question is only why this is not done.
    2. Rrv
      Rrv 8 May 2013 13: 29 New
      +2
      Quote: awg75
      boggy on the bunks. in general, the enemies of the motherland must be shot, but we are a humane state --- therefore, on the bunks


      Tell him about it:
  32. Semyon Albertovich
    Semyon Albertovich 8 May 2013 10: 04 New
    0
    Come to the rally to listen to the spells of Nemtsov, Kasyanov, Kasparov, etc. this is too fastidious lover of political cuisine.
  33. Middle-brother
    Middle-brother 8 May 2013 10: 09 New
    +4
    http://blog.fontanka.ru/posts/130846/
    "Maxim Melkov was not a volunteer - he was a worker at the Tsvetkov private equity company with which they agreed (in order not to pay taxes) without drawing up documents with payment in black cash ...
    Tsvetkova’s company was hired by Stage Co., with which they also agreed without documents for the same purpose - to avoid taxes ...
    Now the head of ICE Tsvetkov detained

    Everyone diligently excuses themselves - for no one wants to be responsible for the guy’s death ... in words they are all heroes - but like a rooster pecked - everything is in the bushes "
  34. individual
    individual 8 May 2013 10: 19 New
    +5
    The protests of the “swamp” turned into the tyagomotin buzzards. For some, it’s bespeaking (to install a platform, audio equipment, make posters, banners, banners, for S.Parkhomenko from their ECHO and Co. ° to organize the installation of dry closets and the sale of personal hygiene items). There are people working out their "share" at the direction of foreign and domestic puppeteers. There are lovers of the notorious "cookies". There are just idle ones. For the majority of young people, buzzing, hanging out, drinking beer, and having fun also became a leisure activity. Liberals of the EBNovsky draft and second-hand bankrupt politicians have no real influence, have financially restrained themselves and are only breathing with anger at the authorities, which does not allow them to return to the previous feeding trough.
    1. Mikhail3
      Mikhail3 8 May 2013 17: 47 New
      +2
      What kind of business is this ?! I looked at this gazellebronevik and literally yelled. The generally recognized (and in the course of deeply underestimated) assessment of the funds spent in the hands of people standing in the back is about a billion green shawol. BILLION! Sobchak seized the lope (and then returned. Interestingly, they apologized for a long time)?
      Now about the business. Two columns in the height of a person, an amplifier with a control system, a microphone, a power station ... 300-350 thousand RUBLES. Feel the difference? You can buy everything except power supply in any music store (if there is such an aesthetic) or in an electronics store in half an hour. Behind the station it is necessary to call into the instrumental ... The people would shut up their ears and on the edge of the square ... instead, it seems, the broadcast was carried out via Ksyushin iPhone. That's the business ... how, interestingly, the ambassador will report to the State Department ?! Ukatayka laughing
  35. Skavron
    Skavron 8 May 2013 10: 23 New
    +4
    I watched LiveJournal online broadcast ... the impression that the boys and girls gathered to hang out and drink beer ...
    Everything looked very miserable.
  36. Pashhenko Nikolay
    Pashhenko Nikolay 8 May 2013 10: 24 New
    +1
    Quote: vladsolo56
    . You do not care deeply about how the majority lives in the country. here is your position, that’s why you are ready to tear to shreds anyone who disagrees with you.

    Here you are at the point. But believe them, they can break anyone only here on the site these forum trolls. They’re too lazy to raise something to change something in the country, to achieve something.
  37. fenix57
    fenix57 8 May 2013 10: 31 New
    -1
    Quote: vladsolo56
    If we assume that 10 thousand people came to the rally, not one, not two, not even a hundred. Who gave the right to insult all who came. I am sure that not less than a million would stand next to them all over the country. But someone doesn’t give a damn. The position of humiliation and insult is the easiest way to defend your opinion.

    Yes, the flag in their hands (and minus did not set), but FOR WHOM ... YOU CAN ANSWER ...
  38. fenix57
    fenix57 8 May 2013 10: 35 New
    0
    Quote: Egoza
    . And what good can grow in a swamp? Although the pigs in the mud like to swim. Well, they would have depicted these figures in swamp mud and a puddle ... Beautiful? Hang yourself on the wall and admire

    HELLO! Only for you, but piglets (pigs in general) are pure animals ... unlike biped ... hi
  39. runway
    runway 8 May 2013 11: 23 New
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    You can go out of your way and scoff at the protest movement as much as you like, but its meaning is justice. And the words "justice" and "truth" will not beat out from the people neither riot police, nor prisons, nor corrupt journalists. Does anyone argue that the presidential and Duma elections were gross violations of the law? The law, which in our country, that draws .... Maybe someone will argue that the government is full of crooks and thieves, hiding behind the deputy and other immunity? Maybe there are those - who will sell for money and their mother ....
    It is absolutely obvious that “thanks to” the efforts of our leaders, and in our country there is opposition. Yes, it is diverse, it includes various social groups, it does not have iron discipline and a single organization. But all this will be, because our people are worthy of truth and justice.
    1. Ivan
      Ivan 8 May 2013 12: 09 New
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      I don’t agree. This is not a protest movement. And people came to get used to someone solving their problems for them. The opposition is not those who see flaws and yells at every corner, but offers their solution. Or participates in overcoming them . He doesn’t fall on his back like a capricious child and roars "I feel bad, I want something ..", And what words to say .. there will be faces and they will think about slogans for them. At present, we need brains in order to do something and not live according to the principle of “I need to do something, I don’t know what, but I have to.” They’re crawling to different squares and “revolutionizing”. These people think they are cool and fashionable. Well, the media writes them into the creative class and the “virtues” of the Russian people. Still Y. Fuchik said 'PEOPLE BE VIGILANT'
      1. runway
        runway 8 May 2013 12: 58 New
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        You are wrong. I’m not going to agitate you, but in order to understand that you are mistaken, it is enough to come to the rally once.
        1. lav566
          lav566 8 May 2013 15: 39 New
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          You are mistaken, piston!
          Who should I listen to at your rally?
          Jew Shenderovich, who has been sawing the same thing for 20 years
          hackneyed disc about "freedom" and "democracy."
          They were already in power in the 90s. And what was there?
          Theft under the guise of privatization, total impoverishment
          population, inflation 200 percent per month. And democracy
          under Yeltsin there didn’t smell close. Who else should I listen to? Matershinnik Nemtsov?
          Thief and swindler! Yasina? Muttering about 'free market
          economy ", which has already brought, for example, Spain to the pen.
          Then one member of the forum told how being in Israel
          saw an interview on local TV where Shenderovich and Nemtsov spat
          Russian people. The fact that they consider him "cattle" is well known.
          Who else? Prostitute Sobchak?
          The task of all these people is to ruin Russia with CIA money.
          Listen to these freaks yourself!
          1. runway
            runway 8 May 2013 18: 32 New
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            I repeat for the inhibited - I do not agitate someone to listen and obey. Take it easy. I also don’t like Nemtsov and K. "You have the right to boo them. No one will spit in your face. At first I wondered why people were dragging children to a rally? Then I realized that I hadn’t met such an amount of internally free people anywhere else. Just to be among them, to communicate with people is a great joy, these children must be internally free and live in a free country.
            And from your comments, I realized that you can’t talk. Therefore, you can no longer answer me. Farewell.
            1. lav566
              lav566 9 May 2013 08: 02 New
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              If these people are so free, then why are they going to whistle Shenderovichs and Germans?
              How little dogs run around the trainer’s whistle. I doubt that internally free people gather there. And if you are so free, find a platform and communicate. Personally, I am for it with all hands. Only without these freaks. You will choose yourself the leaders of sane people.
              To become a truly free person is an extremely difficult task for an ordinary person.
              For starters, people should start thinking. Do you think I am delighted with what GDP is doing?
              I have claims to him about a cart and a small cart. I’ll never go to Bolotnaya to these Christ sellers. Today is a holiday, I will communicate with friends. They all want to live in a free country.
              1. lav566
                lav566 9 May 2013 09: 10 New
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                I recall the live broadcast on one of the radio stations. Interview
                Shenderovich gave. The radio listener called and asked
                why are you dragging us again in the 90s? And here Shenderovich
                said literally golden words: "And what kind of people are you?"
                The first time I absolutely agree with this type:
                it's time to become a people, it's time to stop hoping for some
                guides that they will do everything for us and where to lead.
                1. lav566
                  lav566 9 May 2013 11: 35 New
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                  On the channel "RBC" are broadcast with the orange presenter Irina Prokhorova.
                  She had a journalist and a director on a visit yesterday, usually disguised as:
                  many words about democracy, freedom, wonderful Europe.
                  And yesterday, the director said so bluntly: the Russian people are amazed
                  imperial thinking. And in order to overcome this among the people, it is necessary
                  crush Russia. The USSR has already crushed, now it’s the turn
                  for Russia. And then the Russian people will come into modernity
                  or, as they call it in the West, modern, and then to supermodern.
                  The fact that the ideology of modernity in the West crashes, the director kept silent about this.
                  The features of supermodern are visible in the modern West.
                  This is totalitarianism, general debauchery, the transformation of people into thoughtless robots, etc.
                  In the West, books are being written about this in philosophical and political science circles.
                  Turning to piston (y): Do we need this? And after the collapse of Russia
                  after all, it’s not freedom and democracy that will come, but chaos, a mess and universal massacre.
                  You can not personally communicate with me - I'm a sharp person.
                  But think at your leisure! Think about whose meetings you go to.
      2. kostella85
        kostella85 8 May 2013 14: 45 New
        +1
        Quote: Iwan
        Well, the media writes them in the creative class and the "virtues" of the Russian people. Yet Y. Fuchik said, "PEOPLE BE VIGILANT '


        They are not written in the "creative class" by the media, but by Deputy Prime Minister Surkov (by the way, the former)
  40. sazyckin
    sazyckin 8 May 2013 11: 28 New
    +1
    Correct article. Respect to the author !!!
  41. CAMS
    CAMS 8 May 2013 11: 30 New
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    literally yesterday on the main page VO went into political review and found an article-interview with LEBEDEV, everything is described there. who, what, how, does, decides, buys. very informative. and most importantly - BUG
    1. djon3volta
      djon3volta 8 May 2013 11: 48 New
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      Quote: KAMS
      who, what, how, does, decides, buys. very informative.

      How much money was promised and how much was given?

      It was agreed $ 35 thousand per month. The amount is small, but for leftists everything is decisive. They transferred the money in tranches to me: I bought a phone with a SIM card in the subway passage, found out the time and place of the meeting, showed the passport to the person who arrived and received the money in an envelope.

      How was it divided into three?

      Each had a salary of about fifty dollars, and I transferred the main sums of shares in dollars to Lena. Serge personally preferred not to take money.

      In April and May, you received $ 35 thousand each, and then?

      In June, after May 6, we received $ 90 thousand. Cars for Razvozzhaev and Nastya Udaltsova were bought for this amount. We also left for leaflets, about 70 thousand rubles each circulation, flags, expenses for the headquarters, Lenya recruited a team there. Trips. In the taverns, I paid out the rest. In general, money was always kept with me.

      When was the last tranche?

      In August - $ 42 thousand

      When did you receive the first money from Targamadze and for what?

      In 2006, for work in Belarus: I watched how local activists spend their money. The tasks were simple: to check whether the posters were pasted up, how many people really were for the shares, to talk with this and that person, give instructions. So I went there: it was entry, they are not entry
      Read more: http://www.kommersant.ru/doc/2181515

  42. Nitarius
    Nitarius 8 May 2013 11: 35 New
    0
    To the wall of fucking Swamps! It’s necessary to work - and not to stagger over the area! I wonder what kind of grandmother they went to bark in the square!
    So the desire to say political PRO..STI.UTH.KI went to the square!
    They need to be in Washington - let grandmothers ask their owners there!
    How are 650 NGOs asked in RUSSIA! THE WEST IS ALREADY FIRED! He needs to hit the snout!
    1. GreatRussia
      GreatRussia 8 May 2013 12: 37 New
      0
      Quote: Nitarius
      So the desire to say political PRO..STI.UTH.KI went to the square!


      Limit to +18
      Here is the white-tape opposition:

      http://smotri.com/video/view/?id=v19947659571


      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2PvlM8Zy7Qw
  43. Yurich
    Yurich 8 May 2013 11: 57 New
    +2
    One clever person wrote in the comments why Khabarov and Kvachkov were imprisoned, they gave long terms, but there is no Navalny and Udaltsov, you just have to scratch your tongue. A head to think talent is not enough. It’s just that this opposition is quite manageable and controlled, it is needed only to discredit everyone who is dissatisfied with the current government, anyone who wants to express their point of view.


    If Kvachkov and Khabarov were in the service of the State Department, they would be prisoners of conscience, but since RUSSIAN OFFICERS, by definition, cannot be this, then naturally the so-called position does not recognize them as prisoners of conscience, although if someone smart thinks of it, then Gudkov it’s possible to sue, in one report it flashed how he put the war in the flesh to physical elimination, unless it was a call for a civil war, and he probably would have a couple of injuries with a broken crossbow. Can someone tell me where to apply with the appropriate statement?
  44. fenix57
    fenix57 8 May 2013 12: 05 New
    -1
    [
    Quote: Yurich
    but since RUSSIAN OFFICERS, by definition, cannot be this, then naturally the so-called position does not recognize them

    There is no sense to climb into it ....- they gave 15 years for BULDAKOV ... Yes, it seems to me LITTLE, LITTLE FOR OFFICER!, WHICH PROTECTED THE MOTHERLAND! soldier
    1. fartfraer
      fartfraer 8 May 2013 12: 15 New
      +2
      I’m very sorry, I’m not a bit aware of who is Buldakov?
    2. Kushadasov
      Kushadasov 8 May 2013 12: 22 New
      +2
      Buldakov both played and plays in the theater and cinema. But the officer BUDANOV died.
      1. fartfraer
        fartfraer 8 May 2013 12: 42 New
        +1
        I heard about Buldakov the actor (and even saw him ... on TV), I admired officer Budanov (160 commander, etc.) and consider him a role model for Russian officers, I just somehow wondered who Buldakov was. the man was sealed up, I hope he forgives me this stupid question
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  46. SHOCK.
    SHOCK. 8 May 2013 12: 45 New
    +4
    Quote: fartfraer
    and citizens are undoubtedly less intelligent if the most important thing for them is to devour.
    don't choke on sausage

    As my mother says, “I AM FOR PUTIN, BECAUSE I RECEIVE PENSIONS ON TIME.” And what is she wrong in this case? Only that she wants to eat (or, in your expression, eat)? Including the “sausage” .
    1. Rrv
      Rrv 8 May 2013 14: 26 New
      -1
      Quote: Sh.O.K.
      And what is she wrong in this case?


      In this case, the “rights”, and FSU, that the penny minimum pension in the country is higher than the minimum salary.
      1. kostella85
        kostella85 8 May 2013 14: 55 New
        +1
        RRV ++++++++

        My mother, receives a pension of about 11000, And I can hardly pay that kind of money to an employee at our enterprise. All Putin’s support is based on the fact that in our country more than half of the working citizens are either municipal, civil servants, the police, the army, and the Ministry of Emergencies. To add to them pensioners - from there and a rating !!!
        1. fartfraer
          fartfraer 8 May 2013 15: 26 New
          0
          given that there are more officials in the Russian Federation than there were in the larger and larger population of the USSR, support was provided to him.
          1. Rrv
            Rrv 8 May 2013 16: 54 New
            +1
            kostella85
            fartfraer

            The point is not only this: I know many pensioners who have quite a decent pension by the standards of the country, and at the same time who vote for the Communist Party and, to a lesser extent, for the Slovak Republic. Putin’s ratings are largely determined by magician Churov and a not-so-high turnout: “Good citizens choose poor power who do not consider it necessary to vote.” esquire.ru/elections
            1. fartfraer
              fartfraer 8 May 2013 17: 01 New
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              it is quite possible, I remember a video that went on the tyrnet, where on the screen to the center. the electoral commission was already 146% of voters
              1. Rrv
                Rrv 8 May 2013 17: 20 New
                -2
                I in the previous post filled a reference - the mathematical justification of falsifications - read, it is interesting.
                1. Lopatov
                  Lopatov 8 May 2013 17: 24 New
                  0
                  Pseudo-scientific game.
                  1. Rrv
                    Rrv 8 May 2013 17: 50 New
                    +2
                    And what else is "pseudoscientific game"? Maybe there is a living wage for the able-bodied population, which is two and a half thousand less than the minimum wage?
                    1. Lopatov
                      Lopatov 8 May 2013 21: 12 New
                      -3
                      Quote: RRV
                      There may be a living wage for the able-bodied population, which is two and a half thousand less than the minimum wage

                      He should be like that. You can make a difference and more
                      1. Rrv
                        Rrv 8 May 2013 23: 19 New
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                        Quote: Spade

                        He should be like that. You can make a difference and more


                        That's right, it should, only the situevina is exactly the opposite: at the moment the cost of living is MORE THAN the minimum wage for the specified amount - do you think this suits people? And if not, then where does the rating of the current Government come from?
    2. captain dvv
      captain dvv 9 May 2013 20: 35 New
      +2
      You explain to her that you need to thank yourself. For working all my life. And not Putin. Pensions are paid by the state and not by Putin. And behind the bottom, tell us about the level of pensions in the same Poland. Min 500 euros - 20000 rubles. And this is in a country without any natural resources with equal starting opportunities. And what year have we been at the 1st place in the export of oil and gas? Where is the money zing?
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  47. Boris55
    Boris55 8 May 2013 12: 47 New
    +2
    Ksenia revealed the secret of the position. For them, the most important thing is INFLUENCE ON POWER, to have “manual” power and with impunity to do whatever comes into their head. To have the opportunity to rob with impunity, and in which case - throw the anger of the people to visible power, while remaining themselves white and fluffy ...



    Uneditable video: http://klin.hutt.ru/viewtopic.php?id=331#p528
    1. AndreyAB
      AndreyAB 8 May 2013 17: 17 New
      +1
      So they, the causative agents have always done so, and the revolutions in Russia according to this scenario, and if the parhaty wins so much in power and they are also in the commissars, well, then you yourself chose seven hides and give them.
  48. USNik
    USNik 8 May 2013 13: 35 New
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    people sat on the posters they brought (handed to them by “the right opposition”) and played ... some cards, some guitar, some who poured beer

    Brotherhood! Next time you need to gather somewhere outside the city! Near the pond! People will come immeasurably! I even came up with a slogan for the future "water" action: "Vodka! Lech! Barbecue!" or "Beer! Yashin! Buy it!" ...
  49. Ilya Mikhalych
    Ilya Mikhalych 8 May 2013 14: 02 New
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    There is no Stalin on them! am !!
  50. Ilya Mikhalych
    Ilya Mikhalych 8 May 2013 14: 06 New
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    Putin is certainly not perfect, but he’s better than hell knows who of this opposition. At least you know what to expect from him ...
    1. Rrv
      Rrv 8 May 2013 14: 30 New
      -2
      Quote: Ilya Mikhalych
      Putin is certainly not perfect, but he’s better than hell knows who of this opposition. At least you know what to expect from him ...