From the "swamp" in the "swamp". About the May Opposition Promotions

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Exactly a year has passed since Vladimir Putin assumed the presidency after another election victory. 7 May 2012, his third inauguration to the presidency took place. As you know, the opposition decided to meet that day in a special way, and prepared a protest action on the new Russian area - Bolotnaya Square. The results of the meeting, if I may say so, are known to everyone, and therefore it is hardly worth reminding about pieces of asphalt, fixtures and broken heads a year ago ... But it’s worth telling about the new rally of the Russian “irreconcilable” opposition. It deserves whether or not to judge our readers.

6 May 2013 of the year on the anniversary of a similar rally, the so-called non-systemic opposition again decided to show the Kremlin “fucking mother” and still on the same Bolotnaya Square to hold another gathering of people “fighting for the fate of Russia”, which this time did not match with multi-digit numerals . There was not a word rally or march of epithets "millionth", "billionth", "galactic" or "interplanetary". This time, obviously, in order not to make the people laugh, the opposition leaders decided to do without loud words in the names of the action they organized. Only the sizzling and, naturally, exclusively irreconcilable slogans on paper posters, which, however, later replenished the warehouses of waste paper collection points to raise funds for the following opposition rallies, flew above the Swamp.

Generally, it must be admitted, this time among the oppositionists - accusers of all without exception the plunderers of Russian capitalist property - the action blurred before it began. The incriminating mood of the opposition masses spoiled the news that 5-year-old Maxim Melkov died on the same square where they had gathered during the installation of the “opposition” scene after the fall of a huge column from about a 25-meter height. At first it was announced that this was a working company that undertook to serve the technical component of the rally, then news agencies spread the information that a relative of the worker was allegedly killed. Opposition Russian media were quick to declare that Maxim Melkov adhered to “swamp” views, and therefore the soul simply called him to help his “comrades” ... He adhered to these views or did not adhere to him, but the leaders of the opposition hurried to link the death at the Swamp with those hardships and hardships that today fall on their already hard share.

It is noteworthy that the rally in Bolotnaya Square began with a minute of silence in memory of the deceased, although during this minute there was no silence on the square. In the distance from those who announced this minute, people shouted, shouted and even laughed out loud ... It turned out that the overwhelming majority of the audience did not even hear the beginning of a minute of silence, and those who offered to honor the memory of Maxim Melkov were not at all seen, and about the very death of the 25-year-old youth did not know anything. On the issue of information awareness of the opposition masses ...

The death of a man at Bolotnaya led to the fact that he had to immediately abandon the fiery speeches from the scene, and the scene itself was not fully assembled. That is why the main ideological inspirers had to deliver their speeches losing in the May Moscow air from a certain improvised platform in the form of a car equipped with a minimum set of equipment.



As a result, even representatives of the most opposition media failed to convey to their regular viewers (listeners, readers) exact information about what the leaders of this said there were. The reason is that already approximately in 50 meters from the “scene” there was no way to hear what the speakers called for, and the speakers themselves are not visible (the case with the “unnoticed” minute of silence is an example).

In 70-80 meters from the "epicenter" people sat down on posters (handed to them by the "right oppositionists") posters and played ... who were in cards, who were playing the guitar, who was pouring beer, skillfully carried by, hidden and carried by in plastic bottles. From somewhere far away came deaf fragments of phrases, among which it was possible to make out the words “prisoners”, “freedom”, “Bulk”. The "familiar" word that was heard forced the crouching right on the square to distract from the affairs in which they were engaged, creating an epic mass character, but then the words of the deaf and the "periphery of the opposition" returned to their business.

By the way, about the mass character ... It was to her that the cherished and absolutely all reports of news media, TV companies and radio stations, which 6 of May 2013 of the year tried to broadcast live from Bolotnaya Square, were reduced. At the same time, the number of those who had gathered was counted, who in that much. The Dozhd TV channel, it seems, went the furthest and “launched” so many of its correspondents (part-time accountants) that would be enough to not only cover the events on Bolotnaya Square, but also to help the Moscow janitors clean up after the opposition rally.
The broadcasts were conducted from the square itself, from the streets that approached it, and even from improvised observation posts located on the upper floors of the high-rises adjacent to the square. As a result, every correspondent "from the scene", wanting to outdo his colleagues, presented all the big numbers. At first, it was about 12 thousands of people gathered, then about 15, then someone on Twitter published a number of 27 thousand people and it was precisely this number that many people jumped at. Further more. They counted the area, sorry for the tautology, the area and it turned out that the opposition "mastered" 14000 square meters of territory. No more, no less ... To find the number of people gathered, it was proposed to multiply these meters by 2, or even by 2,5. In the end, it was considered that there were few 27 thousands, and it was necessary to publish data on the 35 thousands of opposition members who came to the rally. It was the oppositionists! .. Only for some reason, the representatives of the “counting commission” did not take into account that the percentages of 10 from the number of participants were law enforcement officers and as many more (at least) were representatives of various media outlets, among which you could see the logos of not only the media Russian, let's say, jurisdiction. And after such “calculations” the oppositionists still make claims to Vladimir Churov and the CEC headed by him ...

What the leaders of the opposition broadcast from the improvised "armored car", the same opposition publications, as it turned out, were of little concern. It is not heard, it is not visible - and God is with them ... The main thing, they say, is gathered. Let the cards spread, let the video cameras hang over the heads and sadly monotonous posters, or listen to an English lesson for your own use with headphones in your ears. The main thing is the notorious mass effect ...

After vague speeches, the opposition leaders presented their vision of how many of their supporters gathered at the Swamp. Ilya Yashin (the representative of the so-called opposition’s so-called coordination council) went the furthest, saying that he had seen no less than 50 thousands of people in the square. The only thing that Mr. Yashin's words testified to is that he, at least, is threefold in his eyes ... If you compare his testimony with the testimony of the Moscow police department, then he doesn’t even triple, but at least sevens ... Apparently, the opposition struggle is all it seriously affects the health of a young man who calls himself a politician ...



If we talk about the leitmotif of the rally, then in the hands of those who gathered more than others, a banner with the inscription “Freedom to the prisoners of 6 May” flashed. But here, too, the irreconcilable opposition was waiting for an incident. Several opposition activists managed to post a black banner with the same inscription on one of the high-rises of New Arbat. The banner, not hanging in its place for half an hour, suddenly began to disappear in one of the windows of the upper floors. According to those who hung the banner, the fabric was sucked into the apartment by one of the tenants, against whom the real bullying began in the microblogging of the Bolotnaya activists. No, what else are these pseudo-activists like: they threw a piece of black rag over several windows, the white light to the residents was blocked. And if a person decided to let out a cigarette smoke in an open window - he looked, and here it is ... Well, naturally, and he vacuumed all this disgrace ...



In order to somehow cheer up the badly spoiled mood of the marsh oppositionists and sweeten their bitter pill, the analytical “Levada Center” decided to say a word before. 6 and 7 in May, that is, on the day of the “marshy” rally and one day later, the staff of this independent (as they call themselves) research center decided to show the Russians their version of the statistics - so to speak about the “pain of Russia”. The data was collected, as was reported in April, and here is the publication of the result exactly on the “swamp” day. Let us present the data of the “Levada Center” opinion poll with the most popular (unpopular), according to the same center, answers of the respondents.

1. Do you support the slogans “Russia without Putin?” and “Should Putin go?” (an interesting statement of the question for an independent research center, isn't it - note by the author of the article)

Rather, do not support - 36%
I do not support it at all - 26%
Rather, support - 16%

2. Why do you not like the policy of President Putin? Why would you like a person with other suggestions to solve problems in Russia?

Much more attention needs to be paid to issues of social justice and social protection of the population - 44%.

3. How would you like to characterize the current government?

Self-interest - 35%.
Fair - 2%.

4. Do you know who Alexei Navalny is? If so, do you follow the Kirovles case, in which he is one of the defendants? (Does it bother the authors of the question that the question itself already contains obvious hints of the necessary answers ... - note by the author of the article).

True, in this case “leading” questions did not help “Levada-Center”. More than other people, judging by the result (33%), they still do not know who Navalny is. But, apparently, for Levada Center, the main thing is that he himself helped the "ignoramuses" learn about Alexey Navalny ...

There were other questions, however, these data are quite enough to conclude that the study was “independent”.

It is noteworthy that immediately after such publication from Levada-Center, materials appeared in the media that the center was allegedly a foreign agent, and in just 4 of a month (from December 2012 to March 2013) managed to get from abroad US, UK, Poland, South Korea) almost 4 million rubles. This information was launched to the masses by the newspaper Izvestia, but representatives of the Levada Center itself stated that they were not any foreign agents, and that they did not receive any notification from the prosecutor’s office. At the same time, LC director Lev Gudkov confirmed the information that the agency he heads receives foreign grants, but exclusively for scientific purposes not related to politics. Well, the fact that Levada Center is not connected with politics is not really disputed, especially on the basis of the above-mentioned sociological survey ...

In all likelihood, in our country certain structures, one way or another connected with political technologies, do not want to understand that if the funding comes from abroad, then the law obliges them to register with foreign agents. There is no question of any repressions - just register. But with this, as you can see, problems arise. The legal term “foreign agent” for some reason causes rejection of those who are these agents.

In general, the opposition saga 6 of May once again demonstrated that creativity in “our creative class” slowly but surely disappears, and all the “swamp” action is really aimed not at real political competition in the country, but at self-promotion, and with self-PR frankly low sample ...
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  1. +27
    8 May 2013 08: 19
    All this is not even worth attention ...
    1. +12
      8 May 2013 09: 05
      Attention is not they, but those who stood behind them and stand.
      1. +10
        8 May 2013 11: 23

        Well - Levada Center’s disconnectedness with politics is not truly disputed, especially based on the topics of the above sociological survey ...



        Another victory of common sense:


        The Prosecutor General's Office revealed the facts of foreign financing of the Levada Center

        http://www.interfax.ru/russia/news.asp?id=305408


        Three more Russian non-profit organizations (NPOs) are recognized as foreign agents.

        As reported to IA REGNUM in the press service of the Prosecutor General's Office of the Russian Federation, these are the Ural Human Rights Group, the Moscow School of Political Research and the Public Verdict human rights foundation.

        According to prosecutors, these organizations have received large sums of money from foreign sources over the past few months. Meanwhile, the organizations say that all information about their activities is in the public domain, and the Public Verdict is ready to go to court if it is recognized as a foreign agent.

        http://www.regnum.ru/news/polit/1656724.html#ixzz2SgSFDheZ

        1. +21
          8 May 2013 11: 45


          Quote: AK44

          Such as Ksenia Sobchak for example. And what, quite a professional bl ..., oh, sorry, oppositionist laughing

          Comments are needed or is everything clear already?


          Ksenia Sobchak: "I love Jews, because all Russians are cattle!"

          http://www.myjane.ru/articles/text/?id=507

          Sobchak No, i am an atheist. Though granddaughter of a rabbi.
          http://web.archive.org/web/20100204131546/http://www.gq.ru/people/article/25163/


          Sobchak:Я believer
          http://www.newsru.com/russia/22jun2012/kalosha.html
          1. +5
            8 May 2013 11: 59
            Quote: GreatRussia

            Comments are needed or is everything clear already?

            Yes, not looking there, these clowns are in full view of everyone. Here's what kind of info goes, who knows the truth or not?

            In Vologda, officials banned Soviet symbols on May 9


            I publish interesting material about how Vologda at the celebration of Victory Day, local officials banned the use of any Soviet symbols


            Details here: http://warfiles.ru/show-30515-v-vologde-chinovniki-zapretili-sovetskuyu-simvo
            liku-na-9-maya.html Blogs seem to be confirmed, but there is still silence on the sites. If true, then there is a more terrible people sitting Sobchak and anal. That's who you need to extinguish am
            1. +6
              8 May 2013 12: 17
              Quote: Alexander Romanov

              Yes, not looking there, these clowns are in full view of everyone. Here's what kind of info goes, who knows the truth or not?
              In Vologda, officials banned Soviet symbols on May 9



              Who would dare to ban the Victory Banner, rewards of veterans and so on?
              All the more so Soviet symbols depicted on the Banner of Victory, which:

              In order to perpetuate the people's heroic deed in the Great Patriotic War of 1941-1945, to commemorate the merits of the soldiers of the Soviet Armed Forces to the Fatherland and to thank the descendants of the victors of the fascist invaders, this Federal Law establishes the status of the Banner of Victory, the legal basis for its storage and use.
              Article 1
              1. The banner of Victory is the assault flag of the 150th Order of Kutuzov, 1nd Class, by the Idritskaya Rifle Division, hoisted on May 1945, XNUMX on the Reichstag building in the city of Berlin.
              2. The Victory Banner is the official symbol of the victory of the Soviet people and their Armed Forces over fascist Germany in the Great Patriotic War of 1941-1945, a state relic of Russia.
              3. The Victory Banner is in eternal storage under conditions that ensure its safety and availability for viewing.
              4. The place and procedure for storing the Victory Banner, the procedure for its transportation are determined by the President of the Russian Federation.
              5. Storage of the Victory Banner is carried out at the expense of the federal budget.
              Article 2
              1. During the celebrations dedicated to the Victory Day, held by federal bodies of state power, bodies of state power of the constituent entities of the Russian Federation, local authorities, organizations, public associations, laying wreaths at the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier in Moscow and other monuments of the Great Patriotic War 1941 - 1945 on Victory Day and other days associated with the events of the Great Patriotic War of 1941-1945, as well as for displaying instead of the Victory Banner if it was removed from the view for restoration work, copies of the Victory Banner can be used.
              2. On Victory Day, copies of the Victory Banner may be hung on buildings (or raised on masts, flagpoles) along with the State Flag of the Russian Federation.
              3. The appearance of the copies of the Victory Banner must correspond to the appearance of the Victory Banner.
              4. The simultaneous raising (placement) of the State flag of the Russian Federation and a copy of the Victory Banner is carried out in the same manner as the simultaneous raising (placement) of the State flag of the Russian Federation and the flag of the subject of the Russian Federation, municipality, organization, public association.
              President
              Russian Federation
              V.PUTIN
              Moscow Kremlin
              7 May 2007 years
              N 68-FZ


              They’re not self-assured, after all, smile

            2. +6
              8 May 2013 12: 50
              Quote: Alexander Romanov
              In Vologda, officials banned Soviet symbols on May 9


              My dear, what the hell are you talking about my city? Of course, here we have high-ranking bureaucrats, even those pi..ry, but not so much the same. Learn to filter information and do not insult my patriotic feelings.
              1. +1
                8 May 2013 13: 47
                Quote: maxbrov74
                My dear, what the hell are you talking about my city?

                There is a link, an article on military materials. If the article is a duck, then write that I'm in vain, whether I ask the truth or not.
          2. artemiy
            +2
            8 May 2013 12: 42
            And I want you to shut up! And she stuck her shameful tape in her ass!
          3. +1
            8 May 2013 13: 10
            NCOs closed the money ran out, without the money of the people they can no longer collect laughing
          4. AndreyAB
            +1
            8 May 2013 17: 10
            So it’s necessary to send Ksenia a common fund to the Jews, but to confiscate the looted dad by the only begotten, it’s interesting without dough how long it will take to love the Jews.
          5. Harleone
            -5
            8 May 2013 18: 38
            And who is on the side of the police? Crab from the Cheka, medveput with an iPhone and a horde of burglar officials.
            1. +1
              9 May 2013 02: 24
              Exactly. Those who advocate a change in our political system of total theft are the patriots of their country. Because what our president is doing today with his friends - Secheny, Rotter ... forgot how they are there, the Shuvalovs and Medvedevs are called in one word - treason.
      2. +2
        8 May 2013 23: 23
        Quote: We refund_SSSR
        Attention is not they, but those who stood behind them and stand.

        - one such "standing" was recently opened, and I was quite surprised by this. First, following Shuvalov, a certain Surkov in London (remember Kudrin -))) was strongly outraged by the excessive fight against corruption - here the members of the forum were outraged that Putin was not engaged in the fight against corruption, and you look like bureaucrats, already the second very "weight" -)) ) how they squeaked and the nurses dismissed. And the more they cry, it means that Putin is acting more correctly.
        Markin answered him. Then this bureaucrat (Surkov) dared to object to Putin when the latter ran into the ministers for failure to comply. And as a result, he was expelled from the walls of the Kremlin. Now Bolotnaya will be replenished with one of those who "stood" behind it. We are waiting for Medvedev there - they say that through his press secretary Timakov, he also took part in swamp affairs.
        It seems good that the Kremlin is being cleansed of secret swampy gentlemen, instead of observing the interests of Russia engaged in sabotage, personal enrichment and sabotage of the country, on the other hand, this process leads to increased non-systemic opposition. Indeed, Medvedev, Kudrin, Surkov, and Dvorkovich (also a potential exile of the Kremlin) are rather big, but very weighty and significant figures. It will be interesting already - everything that was hidden behind the walls of the Kremlin will splash onto the street. We stock up on popcorn. If anything, I'm rooting for Putin.
        1. 0
          9 May 2013 02: 06
          No need to write nonsense. Surkov, Shuvalov, Serdyukov, Medvedev, Chubais, Kudrin - these are all people who came to power thanks to Putin. They and Putin are one indivisible organized crime group. And if the opposition is fighting against thieves in the government and the presidential apparatus, etc. then honor and praise be to them.
          Sochi Olympics, Summit in Vladivostok, Moscow Region, Case of Prosecutors, VTB, Skolkovo - you can no longer continue. Everywhere theft. And this system was created by Putin. So wake up and stop blaming the West for all the troubles. Themselves have chosen a mediocre ruler now and pay the price. I’m only afraid that Putin will have to pay for the country with our children.
          1. +1
            9 May 2013 21: 48
            Quote: captain dvv
            So wake up and stop blaming the West for all the troubles.

            Quote: captain dvv
            No need to write nonsense. Surkov, Shuvalov, Serdyukov, Medvedev, Chubais, Kudrin - these are all people who came to power thanks to Putin. They and Putin are one indivisible organized crime group.
            “Listen, think ten times before writing this to me.” This is good advice. First, learn to read. I did not blame the West - it is only about Surkov, who in fact tried to intimidate the UK in connection with his incursions on Skolkovo, which paid Ponomarev $ 750 thousand. Where did I blame the west? Secondly, before starting to argue with me, learn the materiel - with what side did Putin bring the same Chubais? Maybe the other way around? When you cut such rubbish, there is no desire to argue with you respectfully and on equal terms, for you are no match for me. Therefore, eat in full and read to the end. Thirdly, maybe Putin is mediocre, only during the last year’s May elections it was clearly visible that he had no one in his rivals and was close in the same weight category — all the rest were even mediocre. Fourth, you do not blame the authorities for your troubles, but yourself, and even better go to work, maybe you will feel better and stop here to dissolve your loser whining. I hate Shaitan Islamists, Zionists and especially losers. Representatives of the first two categories are at least fighting for their goals, because I hate it, but I DO NOT CARE, but losers who can only whine and blame anyone for their troubles, especially power, also hate and CARRY. Therefore, shut up in response to my post, I'm not going to clatter with you, because there is no respect for you.
            1. +1
              9 May 2013 22: 08
              Did you smoke? Where did you hear that I'm complaining about my life. Go to bed.
              1. -2
                10 May 2013 00: 32
                Quote: captain dvv
                Did you smoke? Where did you hear that I'm complaining about my life. Go to bed.
                - "chef, the mustache is gone, having screwed up the polymers and our children will never pay off, and all because of Putin (no matter who is actually here, the main thing is that the first person of the state would be) - a typical position of a loser, checked not only on this resource You begin to argue with this on the merits - there is always a resentment against a given political system precisely because of personal professional failures, to put it simply, a failed personality, or a stupidly paid Western agent of influence on the Internet, usually a pimply student who earns a penny for courting women. In either case, time is not worth wasting on arguing with such. And with you. So the answer is short - do not tell me what to do, and I will not tell you where you should go. You will have to go far, loser. All he is to blame
            2. +1
              9 May 2013 22: 45
              You’re harsh, but you’re right!
              1. -2
                10 May 2013 00: 23
                Quote: Focus
                You’re harsh, but you’re right!

                So I beg and how would I ask a topic to discuss, but what is really happening within the walls of the Kremlin? To discuss at a serious level, with a balance of power and with possible predictions, here again someone appears in an alcoholic T-shirt and how in his kitchen he yells that someone is to blame for him. The primitive himself climbs with his primitive vision to where he is not being asked. Let him go to his kitchen and further lap his swill. Mlyn, Ascetic disappeared somewhere, but instead comes this - ((((
    2. +2
      8 May 2013 09: 22
      Our opposition is laughter. Someone is financing them for sure.
    3. +7
      8 May 2013 10: 03
      Jesters, amusing performances arrange, like in the Middle Ages doll parsley ...
    4. 0
      8 May 2013 12: 24
      The Bolsheviks in 1903 also did not deserve attention. It all depends on the policy of the authorities. For, as Lenin said: "A revolutionary situation is when the lower classes do not want to live in the old way, and the upper classes cannot rule in the old way." In Russia at the beginning of the 20th century, the upper classes could not rule in the old way, so "it’s so bad!"
    5. +4
      8 May 2013 16: 23
      As I see these faces, I immediately remember the video

      1. AndreyAB
        -1
        8 May 2013 17: 12
        Again this shifter in witnesses, when is the turnaround?
    6. gameover65
      +1
      8 May 2013 19: 26
      but as for me it’s all this riffraff, just sick people. some realized that they can earn money from their illness, others are trying to infect as many people as possible, while others have the disease that hit the brain so much that they can no longer live in the real world. when the Soviet Union knew that they needed help, that’s what they kept them in asylums, which protected the people from various social viruses.
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    1. +3
      8 May 2013 08: 39
      Quote: seller trucks
      Romanov, that's who got it, and

      Well, Romanov is still missing request I have been collecting a certain part of visitors lately love Do you seem to want to join their ranks? fellow One adiyet decided to attribute me first to a gang of marshals 2 then defined my mission as fighting trolls fool Do you have a couple of skulls or have special wishes? wassat
      1. 0
        8 May 2013 08: 55
        you first understand what it is about, and then threaten.

        http://topwar.ru/27694-kndr-vyvela-iz-rezhima-boegotovnosti-rakety-na-vostoke-st
        rany.html # comment-id-1136847

        and you don’t need to scare me with skulls, okay
  3. vania
    +2
    8 May 2013 08: 24
    everything is bought
    1. +3
      8 May 2013 08: 27
      Chef, everything is gone!
    2. -27
      8 May 2013 08: 52
      Quote: vania
      everything is bought

      And so everything is clear! All these swamp scenarios (and others as well) are the product of the Kremlin, under the tight hood of the GRU and the FSB, to show the world that we have "democracy" and freedom of speech.
      1. +22
        8 May 2013 09: 02
        Quote: kvirit
        "democracy" and freedom of speech.


        do you have children? IMHO better "iron curtain" than "freedom of speech".
        1. +4
          8 May 2013 09: 29
          golden words, youngest
        2. +1
          8 May 2013 20: 09
          Quote: seller trucks
          do you have children? IMHO better "iron curtain" than "freedom of speech".

          At the expense of "freedom of speech" I do not argue, but the Iron Curtain! it too....
          1. 0
            8 May 2013 21: 58
            clearly, no children
        3. Skunk
          -2
          9 May 2013 02: 08
          Nevertheless, it is remarkable that such delusional thoughts are voiced only on the site of URAPATRIOTS.
  4. fenix57
    +5
    8 May 2013 08: 29
    Well, - SPEAK ... Last year ... oh! And last year, for ..... no, no .... against! Against GDP, OK, AS IF IT'S AN OPPOSITION ... but FOR WHOM ... NONE ... JUST AGAINST .... MEANS AGAINST RUSSIA! THIS IS EXACTLY! .... A PARALLEL WITH 1905 WILL NOT BE RECEIVED ... hi
    1. Kaa
      +9
      8 May 2013 11: 23
      Quote: fenix57
      MEANS AGAINST RUSSIA! THAT'S FOR SURE!
      They themselves do not really know. I remember a childish vulgar joke: "Winnie, Winnie, where are we going? -To the Swamp! -Why? - Why, why, have a stupid fat pig!" laughing
    2. +2
      9 May 2013 02: 15
      Putin is not Russia. And to oppose Putin is to oppose theft and corruption, against the destruction of medicine. They don’t need her. They and all their relatives have been giving birth to everyone for a long time and are being treated beyond the hill.
      If you like this situation, then you are against Russia.
  5. +2
    8 May 2013 08: 31
    All of them are smeared in one world, as I think everyone knows.
  6. +19
    8 May 2013 08: 37
    An interesting trend, however! In Moscow, the "opposition" gathers on Bolotnaya Square, in Kiev, "Maidan Nezalezhnosti", where the orange p-r-revolution flourished, in the old days it was the Goat Swamp ... And what good can grow in a swamp? laughing Although the pigs in the mud like to swim. Well, they would have depicted these figures in swamp mud and a puddle ... Beautiful? Hang yourself on the wall and admire! Oh! We still need to warn them! Indeed, the swamp can be dangerous, there are bogs there! This is how you speak, speak, and then - the boulevard with the rostrum, and there won't even be a trace! Here is your future, not comrades!
  7. +21
    8 May 2013 08: 39
    The legal term “foreign agent” for some reason causes rejection among those who are these agents.

    I suggest that they call themselves simply - pederasts will not let the filter through in any other way). Firstly, it is now fashionable, and secondly, it is also almost a prerequisite for friendship with the West. Ugh. I wipe the keyboard.
    1. +2
      8 May 2013 11: 21
      Quote: retired
      The legal term “foreign agent” for some reason causes rejection among those who are these agents.

      I suggest that they call themselves simply - pederasts will not let the filter through in any other way). Firstly, it is now fashionable, and secondly, it is also almost a prerequisite for friendship with the West. Ugh. I wipe the keyboard.

      Precisely, there will be money for their activities, because of the cardon, to transport in the anus ... undeclared.
      1. a jacket
        -1
        8 May 2013 18: 22
        exactly, exactly ..
  8. +8
    8 May 2013 08: 40
    Opposition Russian media hastened to declare that Maxim Melkov held swamp views, and therefore the soul simply called him to help his "associates" ...

    The unscrupulousness of the opposition media is overwhelming. And here the death of a person is used to their advantage.
    And it seems that the majority came to Bolotnaya so out of curiosity and rest. The show is free.
  9. +5
    8 May 2013 08: 45
    Let them hold rallies, it is written in our constitution, only after such an incident (the death of a guy), this is blasphemy in my opinion. On the other hand, with this act, the organizers discredited themselves !!!
  10. +10
    8 May 2013 08: 46
    Some kind of booth of the "fifth column". And they eat Russian bacon.
    1. +1
      9 May 2013 21: 18
      Worldly example
      Hired a team of builders. agreed on the timing and budget.
      After a while they say that the money spent on the facility is not built for any reason. For a long time you will listen to the excuses of these builders. The most harmless thing you will do is drive away. You can certainly sue for the money spent.
      People who came to the rally, one of the 140 million dared to ask why not a single obedience to the president has been fulfilled and the money spent. Reform of housing and communal services, Ministry of Internal Affairs, Health, Army, Court, anti-corruption laws, doubling of GDP, etc., etc., etc. And is it not time for such workers to have a well-deserved rest.
  11. vladsolo56
    +6
    8 May 2013 08: 46
    If we assume that 10 thousand people came to the rally, not one, not two, not even a hundred. Who gave the right to insult all who came. I am sure that not less than a million would stand next to them all over the country. But someone doesn’t give a damn. The position of humiliation and insult is the easiest way to defend your opinion. I was not at Bolotnaya, and did not even watch reports from there, I never supported and I do not support Navalny and Udaltsov, only I consider it a hundred to insult everyone who speaks critically about the leadership of our country, an indicator of illiteracy and lack of culture. Look around, rudeness and obscenity have become the norm in communication, anger and intolerance are the principles on which modern society is built. What do we want to build?
    1. +19
      8 May 2013 09: 10
      They criticize not everyone without exception, but I can’t just name the top of the so-called organizers of this PR campaign. One former prime minister, who at one time did such business, is still not being dismantled, another former deputy for some reason keeps silent about which of the deputies they trampled on, a third Nazi has no words at all, another socialite speaks only about cattle as a cattle. And then all of a sudden became guardians for you and me, that something does not converge. They just want to be on the wave and fall back to the trough.
      1. Grishka100watt
        +5
        8 May 2013 09: 44
        Daltsova, only now I think it’s one hundred and indiscriminately to insult everyone who speaks critically about the leadership of our country

        And those who come there either are traitors (if they understand whom they support in this case), or idiots (if they do not understand this), or even without a goal, they are simply there from the herd feeling.
        So why respect them ??
      2. -1
        9 May 2013 02: 36
        The people did not come to the rally in order to support some kind of leader. They go to other events with this task, for example, to the Siliger congress. People came to say no to theft and corruption, the destruction of education and medicine, the destruction of an independent court. And all these people are the real patriots of Russia.
    2. +12
      8 May 2013 09: 32
      I am not against the opposition, dear. But against SUCH opposition. From their mouths, speeches about social justice are for me personally as valuable as preaching about morality from the lips of a professional prostitute. This is the reason for the rejection of the "swamp" society. We must snatch from their hands the banner of the fight against negativity in society. By force. After all, they picked him up lying, and not falling out of the hands of the fallen. (Pathetic, but nothing happens). This is the task for worthy, patriotic people. And it was not Putin who introduced rudeness, intolerance and obscenity in Russia by decree. You are asking:
      Quote: vladsolo56
      What do we want to build?
      The answer is simple - first order in the minds, which is actually this swampy evil and does not really make it.
      1. AK44
        +4
        8 May 2013 11: 26
        Quote: retired
        From their lips, talking about social justice for me personally has the same value as preaching about morality from the lips of a professional prostitute.

        Such as Ksenia Sobchak for example. And what, quite a professional bl ..., oh, sorry, oppositionist laughing
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        2. a jacket
          0
          8 May 2013 18: 29
          Correctly! Opposit means opposite. But how else, if all the time from the bottom. Then how can you not turn over, it’s the opposite anyway.
      2. 0
        9 May 2013 11: 48
        The order in the heads. And who will determine this order. That's just what all our troubles are from that WHAT PEOPLE HAVE UNDERSTANDED TO THINK INDEPENDENTLY. People are not zombies, but you want everyone under one hairstyle.
    3. +13
      8 May 2013 09: 42
      All this has already happened in Ukraine, rallies and protests, and prisoners of conscience, orange scarves ... But in the end what ???? All these oppositionists are prostitutes bought by the "west" and all who support them are either fools or traitors to the homeland !!! The opposition should be constructive, and scold the government in the kitchen .... And yes, in one way or another, everyone disagrees with the authorities, just because everyone at heart considers himself smarter than others ...
      1. +1
        9 May 2013 02: 51
        If I believe that it is impossible to steal, it is not good to keep my money in the USA at 0.25% per annum and to give my citizens a mortgage at 20%. To buy Sibneft from a friend Abramorovich for 16 billion is also bad. It’s not very good to bring crowds of migrants to Russia because of a reluctance to pay their citizens a decent salary. What to turn state medicine into a commercial enterprise is nonsense.
        Then I and all my friends, judging by you, consider ourselves smarter than others.
        1. 0
          9 May 2013 22: 41
          Quote: captain dvv
          If I believe that you can’t steal,
          I also think so and everyone thinks so what?
          Quote: captain dvv
          that keeping my money in the USA at 0.25% per annum and giving my citizens a mortgage at 20% is also not good

          Do you know that in America everyone keeps money, and it's not about the government, although this is important, but the fact that world trade is in dollars (reserve currency) and if any state wants to trade with everyone, then it is forced to keep money there where is the source of foreign exchange transactions. As for mortgages, they are issued by commercial banks (and of course not 20%), and in the United States, state-owned ones are kept, and this is, as they say, "two different differences" but the Central Bank gives money to Comm. banks at 7%. And now let's compare, in the USA banks take at 0,25 and issue a mortgage of 5-6%, that is, the difference is more than 20 times, in Russia 7% and give out 12-14%, that is, twice. This shows the riskiness and profitability of bank capital. If the ruble were the reserve world currency, we would be able to lower rates to American rates, but for now we are in deep dependence on their financial system. There are two ways out of this: 1. World War 2. Long and meticulous work.
          Quote: captain dvv
          What to buy Sibneft from a friend Abramorovich for 16 billion is also bad
          Any rough pressure on our "big businessmen" negatively affects our investment climate for which we are so rooting, but here, as they say, "the devil is in the details" and it is quite possible that the "corruption component" has added value, but professionals should understand this, and we only we can rely on rumors and this is a shaky support. Otherwise, I completely agree with you and support.
          The rest I am with you
          1. +1
            10 May 2013 00: 02
            Yes, now 13 -14% on the mortgage. In 2009, a relative took 19.5% in the state bank. Currently, the average mortgage rate in the US is 3.2%. A friend in Canada signed up for 30 years at 2.9% and is not yet satisfied.
            To the account of the ruble. Just because the ruble is not a reserve currency, we can do whatever we consider necessary. There are plenty of examples ranging from the Swedish and Danish crowns to the former Estonian crowns. All of these currencies are not reserve currencies but rates have been kept extremely low.
            What we are told on TV about the impossibility of lowering the refinancing rate below inflation is nonsense. Already around the world they realized that money is not the ultimate value. Infrastructure, healthcare, science, education are values. And if you need to let money into the economy at 0.25% per annum with inflation of 3-4%, then this is not a problem for Americans and Europeans. By the way, about the same thing Glazyev offers.
            The company solved the problem of expensive loans by borrowing abroad in various forms - from the placement of shares that ultimately the same borrowing to direct loans from foreign banks. How it all ended in the face of mass margins. Call we all remember.
            That's just them there is a choice to take or not abroad. We have no such choice. It reminds me of a well-known phrase - we won’t give you to anyone, we will rob you ourselves.
    4. 0
      8 May 2013 09: 44
      Quote: vladsolo56
      If we assume that 10 thousand people came to the rally, not one, not two, not even a hundred. Who gave the right to insult all who came. What do we want to build?

      If we accept that select buggers came to the square, who know better than all other people what these same people need, then they should not be insulted, but destroyed.
    5. vladsolo56
      +6
      8 May 2013 10: 02
      I want to answer those who instructed the cons, and who claims that everyone who came to the Swamp traitors and against Russia. In that case, where are our state security agencies? why there are no detentions, why there are no court decisions? One clever person wrote in the comments why Khabarov and Kvachkov were imprisoned, they gave long terms, but there is no Navalny and Udaltsov, you just have to scratch your tongue. A head to think talent is not enough. It’s just that this opposition is quite manageable and controlled, it is needed only to discredit everyone who is dissatisfied with the current government, anyone who wants to express their point of view. Those screamers like you will immediately attack and pour mud from head to toe. It’s good for you, it’s convenient for you, everything suits you. You do not care deeply about how the majority lives in the country. here is your position, that’s why you are ready to tear to shreds anyone who disagrees with you.
      1. Grishka100watt
        +2
        8 May 2013 10: 14
        I want to answer those who instructed the cons, and who claims that everyone who came to the Swamp traitors and against Russia. In that case, where are our state security agencies? why there are no detentions, why there are no court decisions? One clever person wrote in the comments why Khabarov and Kvachkov were imprisoned, they gave long terms, but there is no Navalny and Udaltsov, you just have to scratch your tongue. A head to think talent is not enough. It’s just that this opposition is quite manageable and controlled, it is needed only to discredit everyone who is dissatisfied with the current government, anyone who wants to express their point of view. Those screamers like you will immediately attack and pour mud from head to toe. It’s good for you, it’s convenient for you, everything suits you. You do not care deeply about how the majority lives in the country. here is your position, that’s why you are ready to tear to shreds anyone who disagrees with you.


        I do not understand. You first worried that the swamps were insulted, and now you ask why they are not being planted!

        Most of the country lives much better than under Yeltsin. For bread, sometimes with butter, sometimes with sausage, and many even sometimes with caviar enough! The army is gradually rearming, state employees are slowly raising their salaries.

        You are probably from that group of people who were sitting in the kitchen under Brezhnev and talked about how we are not living well, then when Gorbachev watched the GKChP on TV and also talked about how bad everything was and, as a result, the country was leaked!
        Then it was necessary to act, then !!!!
        Now thank you for saying that you’re alive at all.
        1. fartfraer
          -6
          8 May 2013 10: 24
          but in fact? no answer. do you say that if they are agents of the State Department, then why are they at large?
          "The majority in the country lives much better than under Yeltsin." - I agree, and oil is twice as expensive. By the way, compare taxes under Yeltsin and with GDP, by the way, google the territorial losses of the Russian Federation with GDP, and in general I agree with you, now you can and sausage, and even black caviar whenever and wherever it falls. The Putin-Medvedev course is undoubtedly more satisfying than the Yeltsin course. And citizens are undoubtedly less smart if the most important thing for them is to devour.
          don't choke on sausage
          1. +4
            8 May 2013 10: 43
            Who gave the right to insult all who came.

            But who insults them, as a rule, usually laugh at them or regret that we have such an opposition, village fools in Russia didn’t when they did not insult just regret it!
            1. a jacket
              +3
              8 May 2013 18: 31
              I belittle you! Tear the battery! I can’t watch! Or I’ll come help ....
          2. Grishka100watt
            0
            8 May 2013 10: 43
            but in fact? no answer. do you say that if they are agents of the State Department, then why are they at large?
            "The majority in the country lives much better than under Yeltsin." - I agree, and oil is twice as expensive. By the way, compare taxes under Yeltsin and with GDP, by the way, google the territorial losses of the Russian Federation with GDP, and in general I agree with you, now you can and sausage, and even black caviar whenever and wherever it falls. The Putin-Medvedev course is undoubtedly more satisfying than the Yeltsin course. And citizens are undoubtedly less smart if the most important thing for them is to devour.
            don't choke on sausage

            I didn’t speak with you, when I want to talk with you, I’ll write. I have no desire to answer the chatter.
            1. fartfraer
              -4
              8 May 2013 11: 57
              Yes, no question, do not have arguments in defending your opinion, you can not answer. The Internet territory is free, no one owes anything to anyone. Success
          3. +1
            9 May 2013 12: 04
            Oil went up 8 times plus gas in the same proportion. So much for Putin’s success. When oil fell in 2008 from 150 to 40-50, all reserves were consumed in one year. Thanks to China with its state. stimulation and the United States for printing dough that rushed to the oil market. You have been in the store for a long time. Look - 80% of the goods are imported. I have only seen this in African countries.
            This is the logical result of Putin’s rule. According to the structure of the economy, we are somewhere in the region of Angola.
            1. -1
              9 May 2013 15: 41
              Quote: captain dvv
              This is the logical result of Putin’s rule. According to the structure of the economy, we are somewhere in the region of Angola.

              Enough to carry nonsense, if you do not understand these issues, do not "litter the air".
              1. fartfraer
                +1
                9 May 2013 16: 31
                the fact is that this nonsense is around us, you can watch it, feel it, we live surrounded by what you call nonsense. and your truth is only in the "news" and live broadcasts of the president. so why believe me, far from the "swamp" to a person? to what I see or what they tell me on TV?
                1. 0
                  9 May 2013 21: 55
                  In psychology there is such a concept - perception (perception), and so each person has his own perception, this is such a "filter" that passes the entire flow of information through itself, a vivid example of this is a pessimist and an optimist. This "filter" is formed on the basis of personal experience, knowledge gained and received, as well as individual personality traits. As for the truth "surrounded" and "on TV", this difference will always be felt by a person, and it is not even a matter of a specific state and the level of propaganda, but of a person. I can try to explain it using the example of fluctuations in quotations on the stock exchange. We take the statistics of the quotes of some stock. If we take the statistics for the day, we will see a variable rise and fall of the stock and we will get the impression that this security is not reliable. If we take the statistics for half a year, the curve will flatten out and we will get the impression that these shares are stable and our confidence in them will increase. And let's take statistics for three years and see that stock prices are growing and a positive opinion is formed. So, our environment (friends, colleagues, family, acquaintances), the media, these are "statistics for the day", if a person has the ability, and most importantly, the desire to break out of "this" and look at the problems from the outside (not biased - turn off pessimism or optimism in his head) to understand the direction of history, compare the 90s and 2000s, taking into account the input of various parameters and inputs, then he is able to feel and understand other "statistics".
        2. vladsolo56
          -5
          8 May 2013 11: 18
          THANK! and to whom you personally or maybe can tell you whom I should thank, that I live better than under Ivan the Terrible.
          1. Grishka100watt
            -2
            8 May 2013 11: 48
            THANK! and to whom you personally or maybe can tell you whom I should thank, that I live better than under Ivan the Terrible.

            To fate.
            I personally do not need it, say thank you to fate, finally figure out what happened to the country after 1991, and wish good health to those people who saved Russia, Putin among them.
            1. Grishka100watt
              0
              9 May 2013 18: 05
              Minuser: you don’t deserve such a normal life, because you never feel gratitude, you just have few, and you drag others along. Nothing, soon they will take up normally for you, will be responsible for your words. Soon, the bazaar will be dangerous in the sense that you will have to answer, because The situation in the world is already serious.
              1. fartfraer
                +1
                9 May 2013 19: 13
                bazaar, bot, whatever we want soon. Here half of the commentators (I will not specifically indicate which one, because this is not a "political" observation, but simply by quantity, "from both camps") writes their comments without taking the opposite side of the dialogue under any circumstances arguments. minus in tyrnet mean nothing, don't worry)
          2. 0
            8 May 2013 19: 16
            Quote: vladsolo56
            THANK! and to whom you personally or maybe can tell you whom I should thank, that I live better than under Ivan the Terrible.

            Well, if you want your position, say thank you wassat
          3. 0
            8 May 2013 20: 12
            Quote: vladsolo56
            THANK! and to whom you personally or maybe can tell you whom I should thank, that I live better than under Ivan the Terrible.

            probably; USSR
          4. 0
            8 May 2013 20: 24
            Quote: vladsolo56
            THANK! and to whom you personally or maybe can tell you whom I should thank, that I live better than under Ivan the Terrible.

            Time.
      2. +2
        8 May 2013 11: 04
        This is how they talk in the kitchen, jumping from topic to topic, oil has risen in price again, rockets do not fly, in a trolleybus young people are not inferior to a pensioner, everything is sold and drunk, and so on to infinity ........... Play on the aspirations of the people, to crawl to the top of power, sit there with their legs dangling and spit on those who were promised rivers of milk. And the most important thing is to scold, scold, scold, the previous government said that it "pissed off all the polymers" and now it is a hundred million years to recover, so you need to tighten your belts tighter. Therefore, it is not necessary to la la passed already in 1991, ate too much ... from yourself (at least in order not to drink beer in public places Article 20.20. Administrative Code of the Russian Federation)
      3. +4
        8 May 2013 11: 18
        Traitors are caught, but fools and "naive Chukchi youths" should not be imprisoned. They are supposed to be tolerated until they grow up. You really don't need to slip into rudeness, but you need to have brains in your head or not get into politics even at the level of shouts of "Down with!" Because it is easy to use a fool in the dark, he will not even understand who, how and why used it. Like a drunken girl in the morning after a binge.
    6. +3
      8 May 2013 12: 23
      Lord one more woke up, Before you blame the authorities for theft, you yourself have to be honest, Very interesting things happen to some fighters against corruption and power, Mr. Ponomarev being at the post of representative power, taking advantage of the deputy’s laws granted to him, I managed to cut down the money for my the project, But there were other representatives of the parliament and the presidential administration and they did not work for a fee. On Mr. Solovyov’s transfer, he was asked the question: WHY ?, the answer was not convincing, he said about himself that he was the best, most intelligent, etc. , I believe that it used to be the best one when he raised the Siberian Academy, but in the past and now, the Host just said almost everyone gasped and officials and deputies can imagine you can get the money from the state for meetings like that, but he smiled and still I insisted the best I paid taxes, Probably I took many of the university professors and professors in a flurry listening to the revelations of this gentleman, And Do you want to be trusted? You killed all YOUR pure intentions with your own hands, Putin is a thief, take a look at yourself, you don’t notice anything, And the log is really weighty, THERE IS NO MORE FAITH FOR YOU !!
    7. +5
      8 May 2013 13: 05
      Quote: vladsolo56
      Who gave the right to insult all who came. I’m sure that all over the country, at least a million would stand next to them

      Who gave the right to these b ... holes to go out onto the square altogether, no, I understand the opposition, but they are solid prostitutes and all kinds of trash. And as for the fact that they would have stood up to at least a million, and if on the other hand you looked no matter how much there would be 10 million people. does this not suggest you ?!
      1. +2
        8 May 2013 20: 36
        Quote: krokodil25
        Who gave the right to these b ... holes to go out onto the square,

        Well, really, we don’t have good shooters in Moscow ... Or maybe there is a problem with ammunition?
    8. yur
      yur
      +2
      8 May 2013 22: 28
      Yes, you look WHO is criticizing. These critics have ruined and sold the country, and now they have the audacity to open their mouths to those who are at least trying to restore something.
  12. +5
    8 May 2013 08: 47
    The flames of a gay struggle for freedom will flare up in the swamp. And we put it out and drain it!
    1. +7
      8 May 2013 09: 44
      Quote: omsbon
      And we will put it out

      Pioneering ...
  13. +4
    8 May 2013 08: 50
    We have very soft laws, All these bald and other "positioners" bought for the loot from Ta .... shvili (see the CIA) behave like political simple ... ki. When all this swamp has already been transplanted!
    1. 0
      8 May 2013 10: 01
      You know, looking at what Caucasians and Asians are doing .. I regret that we have almost no bald people left. After all, the rest of the "law enforcement" FSUs committed ... what is happening. And as for the article ... there was a moment when protest moods and I was overwhelmed .. but! When the noise subsided a little, I began to analyze the facts and came to the conclusion that I was wrong. That although there is social injustice, in general, life is getting better. And I realized that the path was chosen correctly. As for the lawlessness of bureaucrats .. I hope that they will all be rewarded.
      And bulk, beeps, tweets, and so on ... for organizing riots and trying to rebel everyone for a count ... for twenty-five years ... or bring down forests in the taiga ... or mine uranium in Kazakhstan)
      1. +1
        8 May 2013 11: 21
        Well you are my friend and a sadist !! For a count of twenty years. They don’t live on Coke for so long !! belay
        1. folds
          +1
          8 May 2013 16: 14
          Well then, five years of execution :)
          1. +1
            9 May 2013 12: 20
            Quote: plis
            Well then, five years of execution :)

            Life imprisonment with hanging at the end of term on an electric chair in a gas chamber by hanging laughing
  14. Dmitry_2013
    +7
    8 May 2013 08: 51
    70-80 meters from the “epicenter”, people sat on the posters that they brought (handed to them by the “right opposition”) and played ... some cards, some on the guitar, some who poured beer, skillfully carried hidden and carried onto the square in plastic bottles.

    Yes, what kind of opposition is it? So the people of beer gathered to drink and be mean. Nothing worth it.
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  16. +8
    8 May 2013 08: 56
    Blevada Center, receiving money from abroad and declared a "foreign agent" conducted a social poll among Russians, but among Russians, 80-90% of the country's population, did not try to conduct a survey?
    1. Rrv
      Rrv
      0
      8 May 2013 12: 56
      According to the latest Russian census, 78%.
  17. 0
    8 May 2013 08: 56
    These people have little to do with the real opposition to the current government. And it makes no sense to go sharo ... to fight on the Maidan-Swamp (tm): the authorities of the protesters will hear only those who cast the witchcraft "blocking the railway (and other) tracks."
    (perk "worker" and 120% of the skill "persistence" are required) am
  18. +6
    8 May 2013 09: 00
    What the marshland demonstrates is possible only in Moscow. A bunch of party-goers who play politics. Putin's law on financing control is thought to finish this squalor very quickly.
  19. djon3volta
    +8
    8 May 2013 09: 00
    In Libya, Syria and Bahrain - a real paradise for all the marsh opposition. They strive for a better life, to shoot from granotometami, to blow up houses, to pour the blood of children on the streets. In addition, swamp hamsters strive for a better life ..
    Here you are groaning and crying: the industry has collapsed, there is no industry ... But in the modern world, industry has moved to China and other backward countries, and in the West, for example, there is already a different structure of the economy, more and more banking and financial sector, IT technologies, the market , trading, design, etc. and industry halved and went to the "third world" and pollutes nature there.
    Yes, all these Navalny, Nemtsovs are tired of, are eager for the budget, but they are not allowed in, that’s the whole truth.
    1. fartfraer
      +3
      8 May 2013 10: 29
      mother, that's what it is)) Putin's adherents no longer need industry) dream of the Swiss experience?) and really, why do we need industry? more banks, all in managers, hard workers in general need to be eradicated as a class. and the fact that China suffered the least from the crisis one should not even remember, the main thing is that the developed countries are in a deep .. "hole", and the Russian Federation is in the same place. In this, our indicators are almost equal to the countries of Europe.
      Monsieur in a hat can take the trouble to explain how he sees the economy of the Russian Federation without industry? If you do not have directives from the edra on this subject, you can not bother. If there is, share it.
      1. Dmitry_2013
        +1
        8 May 2013 10: 54
        Can you name a specific opposition to Putin and Co.? Existing?
        1. +4
          8 May 2013 11: 26
          Now there is no worthy alternative to Putin’s team! If they lose power, then it will be picked up by bulk-Medvedev-Chubais. This is even worse .. much !!
          1. Rrv
            Rrv
            -10
            8 May 2013 13: 00
            Quote: Mairos
            Now there is no worthy alternative to Putin’s team! If they lose power, then it will be picked up by bulk-Medvedev-Chubais. This is even worse .. much !!
          2. +2
            9 May 2013 12: 19
            Yes, you are very bad about the population of Russia. 140 million and there is no alternative. We are what an African country.
            For 13 years, the Putin organized crime group created a situation in which everyone would say that there is no alternative to Putin. Nonsense. Unlike you, I believe in my country and people and I know that in the country there are a lot of smart and decent people who would lead the country much better than Putin.
        2. +1
          8 May 2013 11: 55
          Quote: Dmitry_2013
          Can you name a specific opposition to Putin and Co.? Existing?

          Putin outlined his position in his seven articles (http://klin.hutt.ru/viewforum.php?id=23&p=2 - there you will find them all) and the implemented May decrees of the 2012 of the year.
          If you are not familiar with them, how can you judge Putin? You just don’t understand what he is doing.
          1. Dmitry_2013
            0
            8 May 2013 12: 18
            I will get acquainted, but the question is not about that. Who can you really vote for and be sure that he can handle Putin’s place? What will he replace him and do better?
            1. +2
              8 May 2013 12: 31
              Quote: Dmitry_2013
              Who can you really vote for and be sure that he can handle Putin’s place?

              With this pack of "mad dogs" who seized power in the 90s, only Putin. All the rest - they will devour.
            2. Rrv
              Rrv
              -8
              8 May 2013 13: 08
              Quote: Dmitry_2013
              Who can you really vote for and be sure that he can handle Putin’s place? What will he replace him and do better?


              As far as I remember, when EBN appointed Pu as his successor, for some reason nobody cared that Pu might be worse than Bori. So what is it that everyone is so worried now?

              And the answer is simple - Kremlin propaganda (s).
          2. -2
            8 May 2013 13: 30
            Putin for the personal responsibility of the ministers.



            So let's see who studied what ...
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            2. Rrv
              Rrv
              -2
              8 May 2013 14: 15
              Quote: Boris55
              Putin for the personal responsibility of the ministers.


              And Putin is against rising prices for housing and communal services tariffs - and what?
              1. +2
                8 May 2013 14: 32
                And Putin for supporting small and medium-sized businesses !!!

                from the age of 14, excise taxes on fuels of Euro 4 and Euro 5 are doubled, a tax is introduced for the legal persons on buildings at the cadastral value of the property!
          3. +2
            9 May 2013 12: 41
            I am an adult and I believe not in words but in deeds. What of what Putin said was done-Nothing.
            And his affairs - theft in the Moscow region, in Skolkovo, at the summit of Vladivostok, at the construction of Olympic facilities, I see. I see that the last accused was released in the case of prosecutors. I see that Serdyukov is free. Therefore, I do not believe his words about the fight against corruption.
            When Putin says words about supporting industry and agriculture, I also don’t believe it because I see with my own eyes the rates in banks at 20%. And after that, our industry must compete with that in which loans in the country are issued at 1-5%.
            When Putin talks about the fight against prices in the housing and communal services, I don’t believe it either, because gas prices and electricity are raised by government decrees. I will tell you a secret that we in Russia already pay for electricity and gas in the region of what the American and Canadian pay. And after the next increase we will pay more than they.
            Do not believe the words, but believe the deeds - this is my advice.
        3. fartfraer
          -1
          8 May 2013 12: 00
          I can't, that's why I said and say that while there is no one really ready to come to power, slogans like "Putin must leave" there is, in my opinion, childish nonsense. However, this is not a reason to praise the president. And the criticism against him is well founded. that's all.
          1. Dmitry_2013
            +1
            8 May 2013 12: 15
            however, this is not a reason to praise the president. And criticism of him has enough reasons. That's all.

            criticism of the problem and power should be constructive, with proposed solutions to the problem.
            It is fashionable among our people to buzz in the kitchen about how everything is bad, and when you ask what needs to be done to make it good, everyone shuts up, and some even say that if I were the president, I would put things in order. No specifics, no real offers. Most would just criticize, and as you say, figure it out, think, no one needs it right away. There were no ready-made solutions and will not be !!!
            And there are a lot of them, and this is a real problem!
            1. fartfraer
              +3
              8 May 2013 12: 36
              You won’t believe, in every post on this topic they talk to me about constructive criticism. About presumptive ways to solve problems, etc. and in every post I answer it with the same words)
              As an option, I will answer you again.
              So, the proposals: 1-nationalization of the raw material base (oil, gas, timber, etc.) and energy systems. For what? The huge component of the prime cost is the price of energy, transportation costs, etc. Do you know what the cost of electricity is for an entrepreneur-factory etc. twice as much as for a citizen consumer. why? why do the rewards of top management of RAO UES exceed the annual income of all teachers of any Tomsk school? (just an example). Further, the state should sell gasoline from its refinery principle cost price + 10% (for example) for ITS citizens. this also applies to electricity.
              2-by number, but in fact it should be the first-to increase the confidence of citizens in the judicial system and the prosecutor's office (first of all). It is not so difficult to ensure the independence of the court, for example, to adopt a law according to which 1-3% (just approximate figures) of the total budget states go to the courts (maintaining their work, z-you, etc. expenses) so that the district judge does not depend on the fact of the head of the district; the prosecutor's office should not have "not our competence" when an ordinary citizen applies, the court there should be no court fees from the applicant, the money should be received by the decision of the case from the losing party. in short, there is a lot more to write on this issue.
              3-if it is known that such and such receive money from the "State Department or Zabugorya" to immediately arrest, do not forget that this is quite in the spirit of world politics (arrest of Russian agents of influence in the states, chapman, etc., well, you must remember).
              in general, short-resources are only in state ownership (100%), defense and strategic production (power systems, water utilities, etc.) are only in state ownership, medium and small business (albeit large too) receives reduced costs for by reducing the cost of electricity, fuel. Remove or minimize the wildest taxes on an entrepreneur, but achieve 100% collection (there is a lot about this, it's lazy to write. However, in general, a simple example is NEP. There was a 5% tax, the penalty for non-payment was harsh, the economy grew by leaps and bounds)
              1. fartfraer
                +1
                8 May 2013 12: 44
                By the way, if I can be interested, I can also make complaints) well, so that you do not find the criticism unreasonable)
              2. Dmitry_2013
                -2
                8 May 2013 12: 56
                These are good proposals, but their level requires either a presidential term and a good team, or a revolution and also a good team, because no one wants to give anything away.
                One must either lower the level to at least the local level, or participate in the elections and prepare the program.
                And so we have a level of discussion "like in the kitchen." Or do you have any specific actions on the above?
                1. fartfraer
                  0
                  8 May 2013 13: 06
                  I don’t have it) I’ll even say more, it’s not all of which I came up with. But there is a lot of information like this, people think in this direction and possibly conjecture before the party.
                  "These are good proposals, but their level requires either a presidential term and a good team, or a revolution and also a good team, because no one wants to give anything themselves." - unfortunately I have to leave, work. But partly my criticism of the president is connected precisely with his team and the period that he is in power in one way or another with such a scanty result (there is a positive result, I don’t deny it, it just seems scanty to me, that's all)
                  Well, about my specific actions I am writing a post, I will post it here after the holidays. It does not concern politics, but I hope to find like-minded people and associates.
                  1. Dmitry_2013
                    -1
                    8 May 2013 13: 15
                    There are a lot of infa, but often she lacks the rationale and detailed calculations. This is where you wrote the word roughly.
                    in part, my criticism of the president is connected precisely with his team and the term that he is in power in one way or another with such a scanty result (there is a positive result, I don’t deny it. it just seems to me scanty that's all)

                    and you admit that not all the result and not all of his efforts are visible to you?
                    There is a proverb "It's good where we are not"
                    1. fartfraer
                      0
                      8 May 2013 15: 23
                      I agree in the sense that I will not provide you with calculations on the economy, but with regard to the legal side of the comment, so in some countries it is prescribed that the budget of the judicial system is 4% of the country's budget. The court does not depend on the executive in financial terms, therefore it is not subject to influence ruling people in court decisions. there are simple ways to fight corruption) all this is already applied somewhere, you only need desire. of course this is not a 100% "panacea", but the level can really be reduced. By the way, I want to publicly express a positive about the Tomsk traffic police- there are many familiar drivers and no one has come across the extortion of a bribe. our gaytsy are "people"))
          2. Dmitry_2013
            0
            8 May 2013 13: 08
            fartfraer RU Today, 12:00
            I can’t, therefore, I said and say that while there is no one really ready to come to power

            You claim that there is no alternative to Putin
            fartfraer RU Today, 10:24
            Putin-Medvedev’s course is undoubtedly more satisfying than Yeltsin’s course, and citizens are undoubtedly less intelligent if they eat the most important thing.
            don't choke on sausage

            And then call those who do not see the alternative as fools!
            so are you full or not? contradict yourself! It looks like populism.
            1. fartfraer
              +2
              8 May 2013 15: 17
              what is populism? the common sense of the two expressions that you cited as an example is there is no alternative (at least I don’t know, I can be mistaken), but the course of the current government and the president is very far from ideal and, in my personal opinion (I do not impose on anyone , you may not agree) is the course of colonial administration.
              for example, the very first thing in my answer above is nationalization. Chavez did not need 13 years in power to hold it, "the man had eggs." You can type a dozen of such examples if you wish.
    2. +2
      8 May 2013 11: 23
      Sir, science and education are only there and where industry is. Otherwise, they begin to die. Europe and the United States are proof of this, just this process is not fast .. but inevitable.
    3. Harleone
      +1
      8 May 2013 19: 00
      Madness ... Do you know what madness is, Jason? This is the repetition of the same person as president over and over again in the hope of change good
  20. +2
    8 May 2013 09: 01
    Strange all the same, the opposition in Russia. Do they really believe that even if the Feisty leaves, disappears, I don’t know there, you never know, someone will give them power and let them go to the feeder. They need morons to pray for the health of the GDP, so that as much as possible he lived and dominated longer. Then PR will be for them, and foreign friends will throw money on bread and butter.
    1. Rrv
      Rrv
      0
      8 May 2013 13: 14
      Quote: shinobi
      Strange all the same in Russia, the opposition.


      And who told you that this is the opposition? Themselves? bully
  21. +5
    8 May 2013 09: 05
    I read a few lines, and then it became disgusting. With regards to the gay struggle for freedom, we will not put out and dry it, but we WILL CRUSH AND EXPLOIT !!!!
  22. Nesvet Nezar
    +2
    8 May 2013 09: 10
    I do not agree with those who disagree. I think that they need to allocate land in the Far East - let them show how to live. Although the Kirov region has already been given to them - something is not visible there of the success of democracy and capitalism ....
    1. djon3volta
      +6
      8 May 2013 09: 12
      Quote: Nesvet Nezarya
      Although they were given the Kirov region

      Kirov forest - the opposite will be sat thief laughing
      1. 0
        8 May 2013 10: 03
        wassat a hundred times would plyusanul))
      2. -1
        8 May 2013 20: 26
        Quote: djon3volta
        Kirov forest - on the contrary, it will be the village of Kori

        But it is true!
    2. +1
      8 May 2013 09: 48
      Quote: Nesarya Nesvet
      I do not agree with those who disagree. I think that they need to allocate land in the Far East - let them show how to live. Although the Kirov region has already been given to them - something is not visible there of the success of democracy and capitalism ....


      And what are the little things. I offer the whole island. Yes, and ideologically close to them in name. Wrangel.
    3. fartfraer
      +3
      8 May 2013 10: 33
      "I think that they need to allocate land in the Far East - let them show them how to live. Although they have already been given the Kirov region, something is not visible there the success of democracy and capitalism ..." - an interesting thought))
      I'm not familiar with the "swamp" people, what they have for the rallies in Siberia and I can't see)
      but according to the comment there is a comment, we have many regions where edirasts are shown, only there are no more successes than in the Kirov region. how do you explain this?
      1. Rrv
        Rrv
        0
        8 May 2013 13: 16
        How do you explain this?
      2. stroporez
        +2
        8 May 2013 14: 07
        Vovan sincerely believes that the minimum wage in Russia is 19 rubles, I think about other things he has the same idea .............
        1. Rrv
          Rrv
          -1
          8 May 2013 14: 52
          Quote: stroporez
          Vovan sincerely believes that the minimum wage in Russia is 19 rubles, I think about other things he has the same idea .............


          Rather, he sincerely wants to convince those with a minimum salary of 5000 - and it looks like he is doing it so far.
          1. stroporez
            +1
            8 May 2013 15: 54
            yes to me ....... on what he wants to convince. Koresh Evony (Medvedev) wants to pay monthly payments to all kinds of social funds there, he wants to attach them to the minimum wage. not that 20% of 19425 ......... but who cares ??, our government seems to have printed two arithmetic operations in the skull ---- removed and divided ...... ...
            1. Rrv
              Rrv
              +1
              8 May 2013 16: 17
              There’s nothing to take away, now you can only redo or return.

              In general, it is very significant that the average salary in the country is at the level at which the minimum should be - and not only should, but it can. Such a low level of salaries is caused not by economic problems, but by the existing system of distribution of goods, that is, the targeted NE-liberal policy of the Government, personified in the person of Mr. Putman.
    4. +2
      8 May 2013 18: 38
      That's just in the Far East, these swamp kikimors and ghouls were not enough!
  23. +6
    8 May 2013 09: 14
    These marsh squalid do not cause anything but a sense of disgust. They are always against, but for whom? And buzz: do not consider us traitors ... Ugh.
  24. optimist
    +8
    8 May 2013 09: 15
    Dear forum users! Do you really think that these shniki, whom we are shown by zombies, are the real opposition ??? In that case, I, the English queen !!! laughing Another show for los hovs !!! The real opposition is people like Kvachkov and Khabarov !!! They rolled the man quietly for 13 years with a corresponding article ... Surely all these nemtsov-bulk-sobchak and others have approval and gesheft from the putinoid authorities for distracting the used from real problems. The current "vertical" clearly captures the moment: as soon as a really dangerous enemy appears, it immediately falls into the slammer or, at best, is washed away over the hill.
    1. djon3volta
      +3
      8 May 2013 09: 58
      the interaction of power and the opposition looks like this laughing laughing laughing hamsters will always drive you.
      1. optimist
        +2
        8 May 2013 12: 30
        You’re some kind of inept self-taught troll ... If only you could come up with your own, otherwise Surkov propaganda cliches can be made from you like a dog from a train station shawarma ... No.
    2. Rrv
      Rrv
      -3
      8 May 2013 13: 20
      Quote: optimist
      Surely all of these Nemtsov-bulk-Sobchak and others have the approval and the gesheft from the Putinoid government for distracting the formerly from the real problems


      + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +
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      2. AK44
        +2
        8 May 2013 14: 34
        Quote: RRV
        distraction of used labor from real problems

        Explain pliz what or who is meant by the word b.p.d.o.?
        1. Rrv
          Rrv
          -4
          8 May 2013 14: 50
          Quote: AK44
          Quote: RRV
          distraction of used labor from real problems

          Explain at last, who is constantly called b.s.


          Their:
          1. AK44
            +1
            8 May 2013 15: 47
            Now it is clear! Can you give an example then NOT byd.d.lo.?
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            2. Rrv
              Rrv
              -2
              8 May 2013 17: 02
              Quote: AK44
              Now it is clear! Can you give an example then NOT byd.d.lo.?


              Are you capable of thinking independently, not believing what was said, but checking information, comparing, and not thoughtlessly repeating after someone? If so, then this is you.
              1. AK44
                0
                8 May 2013 20: 48
                Those. - the vast majority of citizens, don’t, or do you disagree with this? Then why do I and many other people have to go after Nemtsov, Navalny, Shenderovich and other rabble, who openly call the Russian people this disgusting word. If you are in solidarity with them, then go to ....!
                1. Rrv
                  Rrv
                  -1
                  8 May 2013 23: 45
                  No need about the Germans and other things - who they are is clear. But for many it seems unclear on whose side they are playing.

                  Do you support Vova? You are right - he did not call Russian cattle - rejoice at it! Vova lowered the democratic majority (72% at the moment) in another way:



                  Do you need to remind about the minimum wages below the subsistence minimum, the surrender of the economy to the West, and, in fact, genocide?
                  1. Rrv
                    Rrv
                    0
                    9 May 2013 01: 30
                    Amendment - 78%
        2. optimist
          +2
          8 May 2013 14: 58
          At least those who sincerely consider the characters in this article to be real opposition. Any sane person who knows how to draw independent conclusions should understand that all these "swamp performances" are fairy tales for fools. Naturally, I do not indiscriminately blame all the people who came out to these protests. Of course, there were many honest and conscientious citizens trying to demonstrate their attitude to the current government and what is happening in the country. But to believe that the Nemtsovs-Kasparovs-Sobchaks and other rot, - OPPOSITION !!!, - can only be done idiot ... recourse Pop Gapon, who 108 years ago led the people under royal bullets, as you know, was a regular provocateur of the royal secret police. Here are those who forgot this, and I think it would be.
          1. +1
            8 May 2013 15: 10
            Quote: optimist
            Of course, there were many honest and conscientious citizens trying to demonstrate their attitude to the current government and what is happening in the country. But to believe that the Germans, Kasparovs, dogs and other rot, OPPOSITION !!!, - can only be a complete id.i.ot ...


            + + + + + +

            About that and speech, all who do not like the current government to call rams and fools, this is the same smells of dementia. And to the question "Who if not Vova?", Out of 140, I think 000-000 people have difficulty, but you can CHOOSE !!!
  25. +5
    8 May 2013 09: 24
    Here again, I look at the hamster assembly at Bolotnaya and see the imperial flag. Question, what the hell are they doing there?
    1. +4
      8 May 2013 09: 36
      I agree that for the fools got out with these flags on this booth? Yes, next to the rainbow. It's a shame also for the red flag. Not there he should be. IMHO not everyone fully understood and figured out who is who. Although what other arguments are needed when the Germans, Kasyanovs, Shenderovichs and other professional traitors stand on the podium ...
      1. +1
        8 May 2013 10: 06
        As for the pid ... of gay minorities, as long as I live I will not let this infection grow! Up to the physical elimination of the rudiments of a pid ... gay ....
    2. waisson
      0
      8 May 2013 10: 31
      there are mummers and there are those bought. to ban all these hamsters from plowing and sowing
    3. artemiy
      +2
      8 May 2013 14: 19
      Shame! Empire reptiles!
  26. +2
    8 May 2013 09: 41
    Yes, to hell with them with the demagogues. Enough for men to sit at the computer. Aydate to the street. There is a labor holiday. All colors are cleaned up clean up. We will make a feasible contribution to the pre-holiday preparations. After all, preparation for the holiday is sometimes even better than the holiday itself.
    1. stroporez
      0
      8 May 2013 14: 12
      already ......... it's a pity there’s nothing to photograph .... you don’t have to judge about the whole of Russia on Moskvabad. and they got out and painted and went to the old people to help .... just these people with whom I work- --- They do not show on TV, but in vain ........
    2. a jacket
      -1
      8 May 2013 18: 37
      Quote: Renat
      Yes, to hell with them with the demagogues. Enough for men to sit at the computer. Aydate to the street. There is a labor holiday. All colors are cleaned up clean up. We will make a feasible contribution to the pre-holiday preparations. After all, preparation for the holiday is sometimes even better than the holiday itself.

      And I spend a clean-up at the workplace. And for the benefit of the country. Can?
  27. +3
    8 May 2013 09: 44
    Everyone can say against, but who do you propose to replace ??? Prokhorov ??? Duck excuse me is the one who builds cars! probably 10 years as he builds! Look out the window at the parking lot ... How many mobile phones are there ??? And I mean too, with a tongue to grind all the masters
    1. +2
      8 May 2013 10: 10
      Quote: Clever man
      Sorry, this is the one who builds cars! probably 10 years as he builds! Look out the window at the parking lot ... How many mobile phones are there ??? And I mean too, with a tongue to grind all the masters

      And really! Where is the ё-mobile, ё-mother, and Mikhail Dmitrievich? Che, too, sp .. ** dili?
    2. Rrv
      Rrv
      0
      8 May 2013 13: 24
      Quote: Clever man
      Everyone can say against, but who do you propose to replace ???
      1. Rrv
        Rrv
        +2
        8 May 2013 13: 25
        --------------------------
        1. AK44
          -2
          8 May 2013 20: 56
          What is the name of the person (president) who would have pulled the country out of the mess of the 90s in two counts?
          1. fartfraer
            0
            8 May 2013 22: 08
            13 years is not in two counts. Although this is just a replica .. to complete the picture
          2. Rrv
            Rrv
            -2
            9 May 2013 00: 22
            Yuri Boldyrev, Yuri Mukhin, Valentin Katasonov, Mikhail Khazin, Mikhail Delyagin, Vladimir Kvachkov, Sergey Glazyev and, at worst, Zyuganov and Mironov - this is a snap.

            PS I’ll tell you this: any leader will come down if he has to answer for his actions and fulfill the social order of the majority.

            You are not catching up: the president is not some kind of super dude, this is just the supreme COORDINATOR, in our case, the coordinator endowed with powers close to those of the monarch.

            It’s worth mentioning, by the way, that Pu didn’t get anyone out of nowhere - by the two thousandths the mess of the 90s had already ended.
            1. 0
              9 May 2013 19: 20
              Ahahaha zyugano with Mironov !!! Ahahahaha)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))) )))))))) I will burst
              1. Rrv
                Rrv
                0
                9 May 2013 21: 38
                Why are comrades siu and mi, who are currently working for Mr. Pu, worse than the named Mr.?
  28. djon3volta
    +4
    8 May 2013 09: 48
    If you periodically have a question, where do all these revolutionaries work, then here's the answer - they work in various “foundations” and “public organizations”. A kind of professional political prostitution. Somewhere else to work for him in this case unnecessarily. Moreover, American funds generously pay for the banquet.
    1. fartfraer
      -3
      8 May 2013 10: 37
      those. you claim that you know this infa 100%, and our FSB officers "don't itch?") that is. Are you saying that FSB officers ignore the fact of the activities of foreign agents?
      yes, it turns out that we are generally defenseless before the states, even the Chekists can do nothing. why?
  29. Ivan
    +3
    8 May 2013 09: 53
    The fact that Hahal Sobchak-Yashin claims about 50 thousand protesters is not a calculation, but a report to the Washington regional committee. Green grandmothers pay for every soul. For this fraternity, not a rally is important, but payment. Naive people believe and go to fight for a better share.
  30. +2
    8 May 2013 09: 57
    "Opposition" was shitty !!! Nasralny and now foreign daddies will be deprived of the prize in this quarter ...))))) wassat
  31. +4
    8 May 2013 10: 00
    boggy on the bunks. in general, the enemies of the motherland must be shot, but we are a humane state --- therefore, on the bunks
    1. fartfraer
      0
      8 May 2013 10: 39
      "In general, enemies of the Motherland should be shot," - I completely agree. The only question is why this is not done yet.
    2. Rrv
      Rrv
      +2
      8 May 2013 13: 29
      Quote: awg75
      boggy on the bunks. in general, the enemies of the motherland must be shot, but we are a humane state --- therefore, on the bunks


      Tell him about it:
  32. 0
    8 May 2013 10: 04
    Come to the rally to listen to the spells of Nemtsov, Kasyanov, Kasparov, etc. this is too fastidious lover of political cuisine.
  33. +4
    8 May 2013 10: 09
    http://blog.fontanka.ru/posts/130846/
    "Maksim Melkov was not a volunteer - he was a worker of the Tsvetkov company with which we agreed (so as not to pay taxes) without drawing up documents with payment in black cash ...
    Tsvetkov's firm was hired by the "Stage Co" organization, with which they also agreed without documents for the same purpose - to avoid taxes ...
    Now the head of the private private sector "Tsvetkov" is detained

    All diligently otmazyvayutsya - because no one wants to be responsible for the death of the guy ... in words, they are all heroes - and like a rooster pecked - all in the bushes
  34. +5
    8 May 2013 10: 19
    The protest actions of the "swamp" have turned into a burden of buzzards. For some, this is business (to install a tribune, audio equipment, make posters, banners, banners, for S. Parkhomenko from their "ECHO" and Co. - to organize the installation of dry closets and the sale of personal hygiene items). There are people working out their "dolyar" at the behest of foreign and domestic puppeteers. There are fans of the notorious "cookies". There are simply idle ones. For the majority of young people, drinking, hanging out, drinking beer, having fun has also become a leisure. Liberals EBNovskogo call and bankrupt second-hand politicians have no real influence, financially run out of money and only breathe anger at the authorities, which does not allow them to go to the old trough.
    1. +2
      8 May 2013 17: 47
      What kind of business is this ?! I looked at this gazellebronevik and literally yelled. The generally recognized (and in the course of deeply underestimated) assessment of the funds spent in the hands of people standing in the back is about a billion green shawol. BILLION! Sobchak seized the lope (and then returned. Interestingly, they apologized for a long time)?
      Now about the business. Two columns in the height of a person, an amplifier with a control system, a microphone, a power station ... 300-350 thousand RUBLES. Feel the difference? You can buy everything except power supply in any music store (if there is such an aesthetic) or in an electronics store in half an hour. Behind the station it is necessary to call into the instrumental ... The people would shut up their ears and on the edge of the square ... instead, it seems, the broadcast was carried out via Ksyushin iPhone. That's the business ... how, interestingly, the ambassador will report to the State Department ?! Ukatayka laughing
  35. Skavron
    +4
    8 May 2013 10: 23
    I watched LiveJournal online broadcast ... the impression that the boys and girls gathered to hang out and drink beer ...
    Everything looked very miserable.
  36. +1
    8 May 2013 10: 24
    Quote: vladsolo56
    . You do not care deeply about how the majority lives in the country. here is your position, that’s why you are ready to tear to shreds anyone who disagrees with you.

    Here you are at the point. But believe them, they can break anyone only here on the site these forum trolls. They’re too lazy to raise something to change something in the country, to achieve something.
  37. fenix57
    -1
    8 May 2013 10: 31
    Quote: vladsolo56
    If we assume that 10 thousand people came to the rally, not one, not two, not even a hundred. Who gave the right to insult all who came. I am sure that not less than a million would stand next to them all over the country. But someone doesn’t give a damn. The position of humiliation and insult is the easiest way to defend your opinion.

    Yes, the flag in their hands (and minus did not set), but FOR WHOM ... YOU CAN ANSWER ...
  38. fenix57
    0
    8 May 2013 10: 35
    Quote: Egoza
    . And what good can grow in a swamp? Although the pigs in the mud like to swim. Well, they would have depicted these figures in swamp mud and a puddle ... Beautiful? Hang yourself on the wall and admire

    HELLO! Only for you, but piglets (pigs in general) are pure animals ... unlike biped ... hi
  39. 0
    8 May 2013 11: 23
    You can scare and mock the protest movement as much as you want, but its meaning is justice. And the words "justice" and "truth" will not knock out of the people neither the riot police, nor the prisons, nor the corrupt journalists. Does anyone argue that the presidential and Duma elections were held with gross violations of the law? The law, which in our country, is that rod .... Maybe someone will argue that the government is full of crooks and thieves, hiding behind parliamentary and other immunity? Maybe there will be those who will sell their own mother for money ...
    It is quite obvious that "thanks" to the efforts of our leaders, we also have opposition in our country. Yes, it is multifaceted, it includes various social groups, it does not have an iron discipline and a single organization. But all this will be, because our people deserve truth and justice.
    1. Ivan
      -1
      8 May 2013 12: 09
      I disagree. This is not a protest movement. But people came there, accustomed to someone to solve their problems for them. Opposition is not those who see shortcomings and yell at every corner, but offer their solutions. Or he himself participates in overcoming them. ... He does not fall on his back like a capricious child and roars "I feel bad, I want something .." according to the principle “something needs to be done, I don’t know what, but it’s necessary.” So they crawl to various squares and “revolutionize.” These people think they are cool and fashionable. Fucik also said "PEOPLE BE Vigilant"
      1. 0
        8 May 2013 12: 58
        You are wrong. I’m not going to agitate you, but in order to understand that you are mistaken, it is enough to come to the rally once.
        1. work566
          +1
          8 May 2013 15: 39
          You are mistaken, piston!
          Who should I listen to at your rally?
          Jew Shenderovich, who has been sawing the same thing for 20 years
          a hackneyed disc about "freedom" and "democracy".
          They were already in power in the 90s. And what was there?
          Theft under the guise of privatization, total impoverishment
          population, inflation 200 percent per month. And democracy
          under Yeltsin there didn’t smell close. Who else should I listen to? Matershinnik Nemtsov?
          Thief and crook! Yasin? Mumbling about the "free market
          economy ", which has already brought, for example, Spain to the handle.
          Then one member of the forum told how being in Israel
          saw an interview on local TV where Shenderovich and Nemtsov spat
          Russian people. The fact that they consider him "cattle" is well known.
          Who else? Prostitute Sobchak?
          The task of all these people is to ruin Russia with CIA money.
          Listen to these freaks yourself!
          1. 0
            8 May 2013 18: 32
            I repeat for the retarded - I do not agitate someone to listen and obey. Take it easy. I also do not like Nemtsov and K. "You have the right to boo them. Nobody spits in your face. At first I wondered why people are dragging children to a rally? Then I realized that I had never met so many internally free people anywhere else. among them, to communicate with people is a great joy.These children should be free internally and live in a free country.
            And from your comments, I realized that you can’t talk. Therefore, you can no longer answer me. Farewell.
            1. work566
              0
              9 May 2013 08: 02
              If these people are so free, then why are they going to whistle Shenderovichs and Germans?
              Like little dogs running on the whistle of a trainer. I doubt that internally free people gather there. And if you are so free, find yourself a platform and communicate. Personally, I am all for it. Only without these freaks. Choose sane people as leaders.
              To become a truly free person is an extremely difficult task for an ordinary person.
              For starters, people should start thinking. Do you think I am delighted with what GDP is doing?
              I have claims to him about a cart and a small cart. I’ll never go to Bolotnaya to these Christ sellers. Today is a holiday, I will communicate with friends. They all want to live in a free country.
              1. work566
                0
                9 May 2013 09: 10
                I recall the live broadcast on one of the radio stations. Interview
                Shenderovich gave. The radio listener called and asked
                why are you dragging us again in the 90s? And here Shenderovich
                said literally golden words: "What kind of people are you?"
                The first time I absolutely agree with this type:
                it's time to become a people, it's time to stop hoping for some
                guides that they will do everything for us and where to lead.
                1. work566
                  0
                  9 May 2013 11: 35
                  The RBK TV channel broadcasts with the orange presenter Irina Prokhorova.
                  She had a journalist and a director on a visit yesterday, usually disguised as:
                  many words about democracy, freedom, wonderful Europe.
                  And yesterday, the director said so bluntly: the Russian people are amazed
                  imperial thinking. And in order to overcome this among the people, it is necessary
                  crush Russia. The USSR has already crushed, now it’s the turn
                  for Russia. And then the Russian people will come into modernity
                  or, as they call it in the West, modern, and then to supermodern.
                  The fact that the ideology of modernity in the West crashes, the director kept silent about this.
                  The features of supermodern are visible in the modern West.
                  This is totalitarianism, general debauchery, the transformation of people into thoughtless robots, etc.
                  In the West, books are being written about this in philosophical and political science circles.
                  Turning to piston (y): Do we need this? And after the collapse of Russia
                  after all, it’s not freedom and democracy that will come, but chaos, a mess and universal massacre.
                  You can not personally communicate with me - I'm a sharp person.
                  But think at your leisure! Think about whose meetings you go to.
      2. +1
        8 May 2013 14: 45
        Quote: Iwan
        Well, the media writes them down to the creative class and the "virtues" of the Russian people. Also Yu. Fuchik said "PEOPLE BE Vigilant"


        They are not enrolled in the "creative class" by the media, but by Deputy Prime Minister Surkov (by the way, already a former one)
  40. +1
    8 May 2013 11: 28
    Correct article. Respect to the author !!!
  41. 0
    8 May 2013 11: 30
    literally yesterday on the main page VO went into political review and found an article-interview with LEBEDEV, everything is described there. who, what, how, does, decides, buys. very informative. and most importantly - BUG
    1. djon3volta
      0
      8 May 2013 11: 48
      Quote: KAMS
      who, what, how, does, decides, buys. very informative.

      How much money was promised and how much was given?

      It was agreed $ 35 thousand per month. The amount is small, but for leftists everything is decisive. They transferred the money in tranches to me: I bought a phone with a SIM card in the subway passage, found out the time and place of the meeting, showed the passport to the person who arrived and received the money in an envelope.

      How was it divided into three?

      Each had a salary of about fifty dollars, and I transferred the main sums of shares in dollars to Lena. Serge personally preferred not to take money.

      In April and May, you received $ 35 thousand each, and then?

      In June, after May 6, we received $ 90 thousand. Cars for Razvozzhaev and Nastya Udaltsova were bought for this amount. We also left for leaflets, about 70 thousand rubles each circulation, flags, expenses for the headquarters, Lenya recruited a team there. Trips. In the taverns, I paid out the rest. In general, money was always kept with me.

      When was the last tranche?

      In August - $ 42 thousand

      When did you receive the first money from Targamadze and for what?

      In 2006, for work in Belarus: I watched how local activists spend their money. The tasks were simple: to check whether the posters were pasted up, how many people really were for the shares, to talk with this and that person, give instructions. So I went there: it was entry, they are not entry
      Read more: http://www.kommersant.ru/doc/2181515

  42. 0
    8 May 2013 11: 35
    To the wall of fucking Swamps! It’s necessary to work - and not to stagger over the area! I wonder what kind of grandmother they went to bark in the square!
    So the desire to say political PRO..STI.UTH.KI went to the square!
    They need to be in Washington - let grandmothers ask their owners there!
    How are 650 NGOs asked in RUSSIA! THE WEST IS ALREADY FIRED! He needs to hit the snout!
    1. 0
      8 May 2013 12: 37
      Quote: Nitarius
      So the desire to say political PRO..STI.UTH.KI went to the square!


      Limit to +18
      Here is the white-tape opposition:

      http://smotri.com/video/view/?id=v19947659571


      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2PvlM8Zy7Qw
  43. +2
    8 May 2013 11: 57
    One clever person wrote in the comments why Khabarov and Kvachkov were imprisoned, they gave long terms, but there is no Navalny and Udaltsov, you just have to scratch your tongue. A head to think talent is not enough. It’s just that this opposition is quite manageable and controlled, it is needed only to discredit everyone who is dissatisfied with the current government, anyone who wants to express their point of view.


    If Kvachkov and Khabarov were in the service of the State Department, they would be prisoners of conscience, but since RUSSIAN OFFICERS, by definition, cannot be this, then naturally the so-called position does not recognize them as prisoners of conscience, although if someone smart thinks of it, then Gudkov it’s possible to sue, in one report it flashed how he put the war in the flesh to physical elimination, unless it was a call for a civil war, and he probably would have a couple of injuries with a broken crossbow. Can someone tell me where to apply with the appropriate statement?
  44. fenix57
    -1
    8 May 2013 12: 05
    [
    Quote: Yurich
    but since RUSSIAN OFFICERS, by definition, cannot be this, then naturally the so-called position does not recognize them

    There is no sense to climb into it ....- they gave 15 years for BULDAKOV ... Yes, it seems to me LITTLE, LITTLE FOR OFFICER!, WHICH PROTECTED THE MOTHERLAND! soldier
    1. fartfraer
      +2
      8 May 2013 12: 15
      I’m very sorry, I’m not a bit aware of who is Buldakov?
    2. +2
      8 May 2013 12: 22
      Buldakov both played and plays in the theater and cinema. But the officer BUDANOV died.
      1. fartfraer
        +1
        8 May 2013 12: 42
        I heard about Buldakov the actor (and even saw him ... on TV), I admired officer Budanov (160 commander, etc.) and consider him a role model for Russian officers, I just somehow wondered who Buldakov was. the man was sealed up, I hope he forgives me this stupid question
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  46. +4
    8 May 2013 12: 45
    Quote: fartfraer
    and citizens are undoubtedly less intelligent if the most important thing for them is to devour.
    don't choke on sausage

    As my mother says, “I AM FOR PUTIN, BECAUSE PENSIONS BRING ON TIME.” And in what way is she wrong in this case? Only that she wants to eat (or, in your expression, eat)? Including “sausage” ...
    1. Rrv
      Rrv
      -1
      8 May 2013 14: 26
      Quote: Sh.O.K.
      And what is she wrong in this case?


      In this case, "rights", and FSUs, that a penny minimum pension in the country is higher than the minimum wage.
      1. +1
        8 May 2013 14: 55
        RRV ++++++++

        My mother, receives a pension of about 11000, And I can hardly pay that kind of money to an employee at our enterprise. All Putin’s support is based on the fact that in our country more than half of the working citizens are either municipal, civil servants, the police, the army, and the Ministry of Emergencies. To add to them pensioners - from there and a rating !!!
        1. fartfraer
          0
          8 May 2013 15: 26
          given that there are more officials in the Russian Federation than there were in the larger and larger population of the USSR, support was provided to him.
          1. Rrv
            Rrv
            +1
            8 May 2013 16: 54
            kostella85
            fartfraer

            This is not the only point: I know many pensioners who have quite a decent pension by the standards of the country, and at the same time vote for the Communist Party of the Russian Federation and, to a lesser extent, for the SR. Putin's ratings are largely due to the magician-Churov and the not very high turnout in the elections - "bad government is chosen by good citizens who do not consider it necessary to vote." esquire.ru/elections
            1. fartfraer
              0
              8 May 2013 17: 01
              it is quite possible, I remember a video that went on the tyrnet, where on the screen to the center. the electoral commission was already 146% of voters
              1. Rrv
                Rrv
                -2
                8 May 2013 17: 20
                I in the previous post filled a reference - the mathematical justification of falsifications - read, it is interesting.
                1. 0
                  8 May 2013 17: 24
                  Pseudo-scientific game.
                  1. Rrv
                    Rrv
                    +2
                    8 May 2013 17: 50
                    What else is "pseudoscientific game"? Maybe the cost of living for the working-age population, which is two and a half thousand less than the minimum wage?
                    1. -3
                      8 May 2013 21: 12
                      Quote: RRV
                      There may be a living wage for the able-bodied population, which is two and a half thousand less than the minimum wage

                      He should be like that. You can make a difference and more
                      1. Rrv
                        Rrv
                        0
                        8 May 2013 23: 19
                        Quote: Spade

                        He should be like that. You can make a difference and more


                        That's right, it should, only the situevina is exactly the opposite: at the moment the cost of living is MORE THAN the minimum wage for the specified amount - do you think this suits people? And if not, then where does the rating of the current Government come from?
    2. +2
      9 May 2013 20: 35
      You explain to her that you need to thank yourself. For working all my life. And not Putin. Pensions are paid by the state and not by Putin. And behind the bottom, tell us about the level of pensions in the same Poland. Min 500 euros - 20000 rubles. And this is in a country without any natural resources with equal starting opportunities. And what year have we been at the 1st place in the export of oil and gas? Where is the money zing?
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  47. +2
    8 May 2013 12: 47
    Ksenia revealed the secret of the position. The most important thing for them is to INFLUENCE THE POWER, to have "manual" power and to do whatever comes into their heads with impunity. To have the opportunity to rob with impunity and if something happens - to throw the anger of the people on the visible power, while remaining white and fluffy ...



    Uneditable video: http://klin.hutt.ru/viewtopic.php?id=331#p528
    1. AndreyAB
      +1
      8 May 2013 17: 17
      So they, the causative agents have always done so, and the revolutions in Russia according to this scenario, and if the parhaty wins so much in power and they are also in the commissars, well, then you yourself chose seven hides and give them.
  48. USNik
    0
    8 May 2013 13: 35
    people sat on the posters they brought (handed to them by “the right opposition”) and played ... some cards, some guitar, some who poured beer

    Brothers! Next time you need to gather somewhere outside the city! Near the pond! People will come immeasurably! I even came up with a slogan for the future "water" action: "Vodka! Lech! Kebabs!" or "Beer! Yashin! Swim!" ...
  49. 0
    8 May 2013 14: 02
    There is no Stalin on them! am !!
  50. 0
    8 May 2013 14: 06
    Putin is certainly not perfect, but he’s better than hell knows who of this opposition. At least you know what to expect from him ...
    1. Rrv
      Rrv
      -2
      8 May 2013 14: 30
      Quote: Ilya Mikhalych
      Putin is certainly not perfect, but he’s better than hell knows who of this opposition. At least you know what to expect from him ...
  51. +1
    8 May 2013 14: 18
    Replenishment in the swamp. They gave Surkov a kick in the ass.


    Vladimir Putin signed the Decree “On V.Yu. Surkov.”

    The full text of the Decree:

    1. In accordance with paragraph “d” of Article 83 of the Constitution of the Russian Federation, release Vladislav Yuryevich Surkov from the post of Deputy Chairman of the Government of the Russian Federation - Chief of Staff of the Government of the Russian Federation at his own request.

    2. This Decree comes into force from the date of its signing.
  52. ABV
    +3
    8 May 2013 15: 38
    Mikhail Zadornov (cat writer) said it well: “All over the world there are rose revolutions, orange revolutions, at least banana revolutions.... but we have a SWAMP revolution, and that says it all!”

    SWAMP and that says it all!
  53. cool.ya-nikola
    +3
    8 May 2013 16: 20
    Quote: Egoza
    A swamp can be dangerous, there are bogs there!

    Dear Elena, a swamp, as a rule, emits gas - methane! Ah, gas, this, very smelly there!

    Quote: krokodil25
    no, I understand the opposition, but these are just prostitutes and all sorts of trash

    Genady! There are a lot of things missing from your picture!...Allow me to add!
    1. AndreyAB
      +4
      8 May 2013 17: 18
      This conscience hits the living with a sickle, maybe the world will become a little cleaner.
  54. Fox
    -1
    8 May 2013 16: 27
    and all the stench comes from Moscow...Moscow is not the capital of the Motherland, Moscow is the sewer of Russia!
    1. work566
      +4
      8 May 2013 17: 05
      Your words offend me. I lived in Moscow all my life, I worked honestly. This is how 99 percent live
      Muscovites. And the fact that this orange caudle has gone astray in this city does not give you the right to call Moscow that.
      1. AndreyAB
        0
        8 May 2013 17: 22
        I also thought so, that Moscow is the heart of Russia, 3Rome, but the current population of inhabitants and the gay-Lesbian morals, both among people and among politicians, as well as the dominance in all structures and the almost complete impunity of guests from the Caucasus and the south of the former USSR, still made me tends to think that it’s already a ditch.
  55. galiullinrasim
    +1
    8 May 2013 16: 29
    Well done, as always, perky to the point. Do they really think that the opposition will come to power in the form of yum-yum-nav and everyone will become rich, etc. and whoever will work - after all, there won’t be enough foreign money for everyone - the common fund will not be allocated to everyone, but will be snatched for themselves.
  56. satellite
    -1
    8 May 2013 16: 33
    I’m wondering if you hate the people who came to the rally, but they didn’t come from a good life, I’m not talking about the puppeteers (they have outlived their usefulness), people despair and don’t trust the authorities, so they are looking for hope in the other side (don’t confuse the country) and a question for you : “Why is the official Zheludkov, who crushed a 13-year-old boy to death and escaped with the dream of a crime, given a sentence of 1 year and 8 months in a penal colony, and the old man from the swamp who swung at a riot policeman and allegedly hit him in the face was given 2,5 years in a general regime colony Oooooh, why are you shut up here, I understand this is not a topic for a military site, BUT the topic of rallies is not your cup of tea. Where are you defenders of justice?
    1. work566
      0
      8 May 2013 16: 48
      Personally, I wouldn’t say that I hate people who go to swamp rallies. Most likely, there are a lot of sincere, kind and loving Russia people there. But who I definitely hate are the Shenderovichs, Nemtsovs,
      Yashin, God forgive Sobchak and other CIA rot!
      But there is no justice in this world. And you definitely won’t find it at rallies.
      Especially the orange ones.
  57. Seraph
    0
    8 May 2013 18: 01
    Christ is Risen!
    All sorts of rootless gopotas, atheists, gather on Bolotnaya. For them, Orthodox Easter is nothing. And these people are fighting for our rights?! Ha ha ha!!! This is the tribe of Judah, enemies and traitors. And the crowd, consisting of ethnic Russians, is a crowd of drugged, lop-eared simpletons. All this foam is bullshit, not worth attention, one riot police battalion and that’s it
    1. fartfraer
      -2
      8 May 2013 18: 24
      Seraphim, tell us in more detail about Orthodoxy? How does it differ from Catholicism? Can you remind us how Rus' was baptized and what the faith was like before Christianity?
      By the way, do you celebrate Maslenitsa? It’s an exclusively pagan and national holiday, I can tell you.
      Before you disgrace Orthodoxy with your statements, think
  58. satellite
    +3
    8 May 2013 18: 05
    How many patients come to the site, and at the same time, with all their might?
    1. a jacket
      -2
      8 May 2013 18: 39
      Agree. That's a plus for you!
  59. Harleone
    +2
    8 May 2013 18: 41
    An excellent and time-tested move is to invent foreign enemies for the people in order to distract them from the real problems in the country. And, as we can see, it works!

    I also receive a monthly salary from an American resident and am in a same-sex marriage with a Dutch citizen, oh.
    1. djon3volta
      0
      8 May 2013 20: 05
      Quote: Harleone
      invent enemies from outside for the people in order to distract from the real problems in the country

      I’m 100% sure that the bulk of the population doesn’t give a damn about all this swamp stuff, many haven’t even heard of it. Ask WWII veterans what they think about these rallies, or take an interest outside the Moscow Ring Road. All this swamp movement is only interesting to Moscow, 100 million Russians put money on them.
      1. Harleone
        0
        8 May 2013 20: 58
        And yet, the shit in the comments is thriving
    2. fartfraer
      0
      8 May 2013 20: 54
      “An excellent and time-tested move is to invent enemies for the people from outside,” the problem is that there really is an enemy.
      “I’m 100% sure that the bulk of the population doesn’t give a damn about this whole swamp party” - I know that the majority of the people don’t care about the Kremlin party
      1. Harleone
        0
        8 May 2013 21: 01
        There is an enemy, but its danger has so far been exaggerated. Russia has more important problems than the threat of the West. It is quite logical that the opposition is supported from abroad - they have common goals. But, alas, it is too early to talk about revolution and change of power by force.
      2. djon3volta
        -5
        8 May 2013 21: 26
        Quote: fartfraer
        I know that the majority of people don’t care about the Kremlin party

        but no! See for yourself.

        1. fartfraer
          +1
          8 May 2013 22: 21
          maybe this is an indicator for you, but I primarily judge from my circle of contacts, from conversations with people who are clear that “swamp” is not a solution, but continuing the “current moment” will not lead to anything good. I’ll tell you right away, to my dear downvoters, etc., who don’t already know this - Serdyukov, Medvedev and all the other hated people in power here are Putin’s people, these are people who would not have gotten their jobs without Putin’s approval. and no matter how I feel about Navalny, but when Bastrykin says “if Navalny hadn’t got involved in politics, he would have lived in peace,” then I want to put Bastrykin himself on trial. Chavez, without the power that the Russian Federation has, did more in less time, Stalin took over the country after the First World War, civil war and in less time I was able to raise the country’s industrial potential by an order of magnitude. And production in Tomsk collapsed under Putin, although it worked quite well even under the crazy Yeltsin. Just don’t tell me that many other “factories and factories” have opened, tens of fewer people work there than worked at large enterprises that closed after the collapse of the USSR (and to this day). What has been done to “jump off the oil needle”? A pipe to China?
    3. 0
      9 May 2013 20: 53
      How else can you explain to the people that absolutely nothing has been accomplished that has been said to the people for 13 years?
      Of course the damned Americans are to blame.
      And the fact that our reserve fund was put into American treasury papers, the fact that state-owned enterprises ended up with accounts in Cyprus, the fact that the children and wives of our bureaucracy are already there, they don’t like to remember about this. And those who remind them are declared agents of the West. A paradox.
      1. fartfraer
        +1
        9 May 2013 21: 41
        and we also forget about the distribution of territories of the Russian Federation to “friends”-neighbors. I was chatting with one “Putin guy” Saitovsky in a personal message, it turned out that this businessman is hiding his income, he’s paying him “gray” at least, and he’s also screaming at me about the freedom of business, not knowing basic things about taxes and paying for the services of “natural monopolists”. The thieves were allowed to steal - they are happy
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  60. -2
    8 May 2013 21: 27
    how well conceived - a swamp, on a swamp square!!! belay wink Yes
    1. fartfraer
      +2
      8 May 2013 22: 26
      you stopped a little early in your infallible logic) it was also successfully conceived that the swamp square is in Moscow, that Moscow is the capital of the Russian Federation, that you are a resident (and even probably a citizen) of the Russian Federation.. should I continue?
  61. 0
    8 May 2013 22: 24
    It's funny about the window)))
  62. sershi87
    +1
    8 May 2013 22: 41
    The article is an obvious order, jeans. Putin’s reign is coming to an end; he won’t last until the end of his term. He must be replaced by patriots and nationalists. There is no other option.
  63. Rrv
    Rrv
    +1
    8 May 2013 23: 33
    --------------------------
    1. fartfraer
      +1
      9 May 2013 19: 33
      I join!
  64. 0
    9 May 2013 07: 00
    Fun article!
  65. -2
    9 May 2013 08: 38
    a worthy place for this disgusting thing is the swamp area!! Yes as they say, all the bastard is in place!! Yes