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Ukraine at the geopolitical crossroads

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Unfortunately, the situation with the definition of foreign policy in recent years for our country was not the best. 2010 was marked by the beginning of a rapprochement between Ukraine and the Russian Federation: V. Yanukovych made his first visit to Moscow; he gave his first interview as President of Ukraine to the Russian information and analytical television channel Vesti; in 2010. However, further events showed a clear restraint of the President of Ukraine regarding the Russian vector: he continued to declare Ukraine’s European integration ambitions and work in this direction. Nevertheless, despite the initialing of the text of the Association Agreement, which included the creation of an in-depth and comprehensive free trade zone, the pace of European integration began to slow down noticeably; this is partly due to the attempt of the EU itself to put pressure on Ukraine because of the so-called. “A politically biased trial” over opposition leaders.


Today, the foreign policy situation of Ukraine is characterized by the lack of significant advancement either in relations with the Russian Federation or the EU, even though a number of Ukrainian media report this event as a breakthrough after a long political boycott. Moreover, this move remains a priority for Ukrainian politicians. People's Deputy of Ukraine from Zaporozhye V.A. Boguslayev in his interview to the television channel “Alex” stated that Ukraine should not strive to integrate into the EU, but also not to join the Customs Union (CU); at the same time, the deputy noted that this is the position of the president himself: “a wise position”. Thus, the task of Ukraine is to take a neutral position between two geopolitical and geo-economic heavyweight players. But the question is: will the heavyweights themselves suit such a format?

What is Ukraine for the West? The head of the risk management department of Erste Bank in Ukraine, in an interview with our magazine, called Ukraine Alaska with a sales market of 46 million. But if we discard the whole pathos of this statement, then between the lines it can be read that Ukraine is being imposed on the colonial model of the economy, which means excessive export orientation, almost complete dependence on a foreign investor and the dominance of the share of imports in the consumer sector. Such a system of national economy management is acceptable for countries experiencing an economic crisis and not having their own means to overcome it; It is one of the “crisis management” tools at the state level. But in the case of Ukraine, crisis management, which theoretically should be of a short-term nature, was delayed for a twenty-one-year period. Our state, both its leadership and ordinary citizens, finally needs to understand that the West sees in us only a profitable asset, from both geopolitical and geo-economic points of view. Nor can there be any talk of Western help: George Xennan, director of the US State Department’s Planning Center, wrote back in 1948 that “in order to keep 50% of world wealth in our hands, we must part with all romanticism and sentimentality human growth of welfare or democratization.

What will Ukraine get from joining the CU? Executive Director of the International Blazer Foundation, Oleg Ustenko, predicts that, subject to joining the CU, Ukraine will lose the opportunity to influence its customs policy, since a single customs policy will be formed for the organization’s member countries. This will lead to the fact that in case of joining the CU, Ukraine should revise the tariffs for a number of goods exported by WTO members, which will prompt them to appeal to the WTO dispute settlement body, which can impose sanctions on Ukraine. As noted in the report “Prospects for relations between Ukraine and the Customs Union of the Russian Federation, the Republic of Belarus and the Republic of Kazakhstan” prepared by the National Institute for Strategic Studies in 2011, the total amount of penalties will be 5 billion dollars.

In addition, the high revenues of the Russian Federation from the export of hydrocarbons will allow it to buy high-tech products, ignoring the Ukrainian supplier, thereby placing Ukraine’s research and development enterprises in a difficult position. In addition to this, we should recall the statement of the General Director of Motor Sich JSC, and now the People's Deputy of Ukraine V.A. Boguslayeva at the conference "Ukraine - Russia" with the participation of the presidents of the Russian Federation and Ukraine D. Medvedev and V. Yanukovich, held on 17-18 in May 2011, about the RF policy on import substitution, which threatens the existence of the scientific and technical base of Ukraine, because of high technology Ukrainian products are mainly supplied to the Russian market.

Yes, we have to admit that Ukraine is only an object of international politics and economy, not a subject. It is hardly possible to change this, therefore one must be guided by the main principle of diplomacy - to operate with the existing ones. This means that Ukraine needs to sell itself as profitably as possible, but to sell it to someone alone. The reader may object, citing as an example the countries of Central Asia, which, although they cooperate closely with Moscow, in parallel also play along with Brussels, Washington and Beijing.

However, these subjects of international relations conduct such a foreign policy only because they all have real assets that are in demand on world markets. The countries of Central Asia have reserves of oil and gas, as well as reserves of the most important rare-earth metals for the world economy. In the period 2010-2011. The EU planned to use gas reserves from Turkmenistan and Uzbekistan to fill the Nabucco and Trans-Caspian gas pipelines, but now China claims the same gas, intending to contract not only the main export volumes of Turkmen gas, but also all gas exports from Uzbekistan and even from Kazakhstan. Kazakhstan is interesting not only for its hydrocarbons, but also possesses the second largest reserves of rare-earth metals after China. Today, the “rare earth” of Kazakhstan is the only real alternative to Chinese raw materials: Greenland possesses huge reserves of rare earth metals, according to the sectoral Internet publication mining.com, which in the future can satisfy about 20% of the global demand for the most valuable metals from Green Earth with radioactive elements, making them unsuitable. Considering this, and also the fact that the Celestial Empire uses the “rare earth” as a political tool, Kazakhstan is becoming in demand on the world stage: in 2012, the Federal Republic of Germany and Japan signed an agreement with Kazakhstan for the supply of rare earth metals.

Uzbekistan is also of interest from a geopolitical point of view: located in close proximity to the Middle East and from the Russian Federation, it is an excellent base for building military bases, conducting special operations and deploying radar stations. So 29 June 2012 Uzbekistan declared the suspension of its membership in the Collective Security Treaty Organization (CSTO), which is considered to be an informal counterbalance to NATO, and already 3 in October 2012 Tashkent visited 17 US generals for a five-week visit to discuss issues of US cooperation with " key allied countries. "

All this means that the international community will strive to be friends with Astana, Ashgabat and Tashkent, closing its eyes to the violation of its own core values ​​(the uprising of oil workers in the Kazakh city of Zhanaozen in December 2011 killed 700 lives) and not teach them how to live constantly happening with Kiev. Unlike the states of Central Asia, Ukraine cannot boast of such reserves of the most valuable minerals, and the estimated volume of shale gas production in the amount of 8-11 billion m3 / year, which Azarov stated, still needs to be confirmed.

However, the countries of Central Asia can act as another example for Ukraine, namely, an example of how one can overdo it by playing on clashing the interests of world heavyweights. The desire to escape from the Kremlin’s “guardianship” and the naive adherence to the idiological “West (and East) will help us” can be brought by the countries of Central Asia in the neocolonialism network - not only western, but also eastern. The problem of Central Asia is the colossal power ambitions of the local elites with very little political experience of the government itself. The political experience of the Central Asian countries is limited to a period of several hundred years after the collapse of the Golden Horde and before the steppe lands passed under the arm of Moscow. In other words, this is the experience of the Horde khans, whose main ambitions were "to own the herds and wives of defeated enemies and feast in their tents." This meme is actually completely recreated by the current rulers of the region, who formed their regimes in the image and likeness of the same khanates.

And precisely in this lies their mistake: in the 21st century, steppe men no longer inspire fear in the whole world; unfortunately, they are no longer subjects of politics, but only objects, and objects that are devoid of a strategic vision, but with Tamerlan’s ambitions.

Central Asia is located between two strategic players in Eurasia - the Russian Federation and China. But if the Russian Federation almost 70 years created on the site of the nomadic civilized states, with China there is only a genetic relationship and only. Most of the Middle Kingdom, this region is needed only as a raw materials appendage. There is another player - the United States, who, like the Serpent-Tempter, trying to play on the “great past of the owners of the Great Silk Road”, draws them into their networks. Thus, the foreign policy of the Central Asian elites in the form of withdrawal from the CSTO and from the sphere of the direct interests of the Russian Federation, as well as maneuvering between the interests of the powerful, can play a cruel joke with them: the “golden Tamerlana onuchata goal” may be between the US hammer and the anvil of China.

Therefore, in spite of the “multi-sectoral policy”, the Central Asian countries, nevertheless, suffer from one of the heavyweights, the Russian Federation. Thus, the obstinate Uzbekistan at the end of December 2012 assured Russian Foreign Minister Lavrov that he did not plan to deploy military facilities of foreign states on his territory; With all the freedom of its foreign policy, Kazakhstan is increasingly integrating into the CU; Kyrgyzstan in 2013 will develop an action plan for joining the CU. These countries have made their choice. Now it's Ukraine.

Joining any bloc, be it European or Eurasian, in any case will lead to a partial infringement of national interests. This is as objective as the fact that the Volga flows into the Caspian Sea. But the delay of death is similar: if Ukraine does not decide on a foreign policy course, our country can be comprehended by the fate of Cambodia during the Vietnam War, when, due to an unsuccessful attempt of the central government to observe neutrality, the ultra-right Khmer Rouge group captured the country. The Orange Revolution introduced into the formation of Ukraine’s foreign policy course an element of radicalism: it began to obey the formula “OR-OR”: “either NATO or non-aligned; or West or East. " If at the beginning of the 2000s (especially the period of V. Yanukovych’s premiership in 2002-2004), this situation could have been resolved according to the scenario of a small European state: economic stability in exchange for a national idea and ideology, now this was not possible due to unfortunate set of circumstances due to the second round of the global economic crisis.

The danger of the current situation from a political point of view, as shown история, is a threat that is internal to the country: in order to finally determine the foreign policy, and therefore ideological, course, society can turn away from liberal parties (to which the ruling party belongs) and appeal to parties that hold radical views. History knows such examples - Italy 1920's and Germany 1930's; no need to describe further events. At first glance, this least desirable development scenario seems unlikely, but the theory of strategic planning and risk management says that you need to take into account all the scenarios, even the least realistic ones.

Thus, the analysis of the current situation and a vivid example of the Central Asian region showed that Ukraine by all means need to finally decide on the foreign policy direction or significantly improve the economic condition of citizens as a possible alternative to a clear foreign policy and national ideological course. Otherwise ... Ukraine will repeat the fate of Buridan's ass.
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  1. Ruslan67
    Ruslan67 6 May 2013 05: 48
    +7
    It seems that in the 21st century another proverb will be used - Like Ukraine in the ice hole fool what
    1. Nicholas C.
      Nicholas C. 6 May 2013 06: 09
      14
      The Ukrainian oligarchy is not Buridan’s donkeys, they are the same people. They don’t even think about anyone who formally rules there in Ukraine: Yanukovych, Yushchenko ... - they get rich. And while there is an opportunity to grow rich, they are not interested in how many millions Ukraine is dying, how poor and humiliated the people are.
    2. MG42
      MG42 6 May 2013 06: 12
      13
      Quote: Ruslan67
      How Ukraine is in the ice hole

      Yanukovych continues to bend the line that the previous presidents of Ukraine did before him = sitting on two chairs, but this is not only uncomfortable, you can also end up on the floor ....
      this is how it will be
      1. Egoza
        Egoza 6 May 2013 07: 26
        +7
        Quote: MG42
        Yanukovych continues to bend the line, what the previous presidents of Ukraine did before him = sit on two chairs,

        So, after all, our presidents declared that Ukraine is the center of Europe. But no - whatever one may say, for Russia, for Europe - Outskirts. Which side do not look. But this doesn’t reach the presidents.
        There is a struggle between two groups of oligarchs - a group of bankers and a group of industrialists. Just do not think that they are fighting for the prosperity of the country, solely for profit in their pockets. And from this point of view, the EU is preferable for both. Bankers - it is clear why, and industrialists - because they are afraid that with the accession to the CU the Russian oligarchs will significantly squeeze them out, or the CU will closely monitor the implementation of the terms of the union agreement. And this means that "nothing can be stolen." They are not satisfied with this situation. That is why the thought is being actively instilled into the heads of the population: "You are not enough of your oligarchs, and Russians will sit on their necks" - because of this, some people think that it is better not to join anywhere. But not all of them. And yet, all the same. We have already started talking about creating a consortium for the Ukrainian GTS. And already Europe declares that by the end of the year Ukraine must decide what it will do with the pipe. And already on the sidelines, European politicians say that they do not know whom to support, because every time there is a risk that Ukraine will change its course. And in general "it's not over yet." The EU has a bunch of claims on which it can very realistically refuse Ukraine even to sign the association. Will live.
        1. MG42
          MG42 6 May 2013 07: 49
          +8
          Quote: Egoza
          But no - whatever one may say, for Russia, for Europe - Outskirts.

          For Russia = Outskirts in the historical sense, for the EU = "buffer zone" between the EU and the CU.
          1. Scythian 35
            Scythian 35 6 May 2013 09: 11
            -4
            Citizens of Russia, let’s express their thoughts less in this way and humiliate your neighboring state. The more you care about Ukraine in this way, the wider steps nationalism penetrates the east of Ukraine !!! I urge tolerance.
            Respectfully!!!
            1. Alexander Romanov
              Alexander Romanov 6 May 2013 09: 22
              +3
              Quote: Scythian 35
              I urge tolerance

              It’s you who are calling for tolerance in georopean sites. They like tolerasts and others
              1. Kaa
                Kaa 6 May 2013 12: 16
                +3
                Quote: Alexander Romanov
                It’s you who are calling for tolerance in georopean sites.
                I have already cited the December bill banning the propaganda of homosexuality by the "regional" V. Kolesnichenko. And the gop-position answered in February with the exact opposite: "On February 19, the Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine registered bill 2342 ......, aimed at the so-called "protection against discrimination" of sexual perverts and the real discrimination of the majority. What does this mean in practice if such an act is adopted? And the fact that from now on the homosexual “passes as the owner of his vast Motherland” ... Including its kindergartens and schools, prisons and hospitals, universities and motels. And try your employer not to take the painted image of an incomprehensible gender who wants to be a “child educator”! This is “discrimination based on sexual orientation”! They will condemn this "intolerant" director of the school, or kindergarten right away. And the article is ready:
                Article 16. Vidpov_dalnist for violation of the law on the prohibition of discrimination and discrimination
                1. Individuals who are guilty of decreasing legislation to protect and discriminate, to bear civil, administrative and criminal law.
                Without a doubt, it was the Western curators who dictated the bill to the obedient Ukrainian "elite". The explanatory note already mentioned explicitly states that “The draft Law of Ukraine“ On introducing amendments to the legislative acts of Ukraine for the sake of memorizing and protesting discrimination in Ukraine ”(the draft law) has been scattered for the last low level. ”. Even public criticism of perverts is already “namir’s debacle about discrimination” and “pidburyuvannya before discrimination”, that is, an occasion for administrative and criminal prosecution. Most religious figures automatically fall under this article, since sodomy is condemned by all major faiths, public activists fighting for family values ​​and morality, in general, any normal person who publicly criticizes perverts. There is nothing to be surprised at: perversions are the most important part of occult rituals, and judging by the persecution of Christians, according to the affirming anti-Christian symbolism in the EU countries, it is the occultists who rule there. Everyone chooses a symbolism that he likes: a Christian - a cross, a Muslim - a crescent, a Buddhist - a lotus. And what about the leadership of the European Union, which built the European Parliament in the form of the Tower of Babel condemned by the Church from the picture of Brueghel the Elder, and then issued postcards with such a tower and the inverted pentagonal star of Lucifer rising above it? The EU is ready for any form of pressure to spread homosexuality in Ukraine. Even the non-recognition of the results of the Ukrainian elections! It is this option that the OSCE representatives promised before the last parliamentary elections, if the deputies dare to pass the second draft 8711, which prohibits the promotion of homosexuality to children, in the second reading. And if the “Western horde” does not give a “dwarf to the kingdom” to our authorities, then the existing government will be declared “undemocratic” and illegitimate, with all the ensuing consequences. For example, foreign accounts and real estate of Ukrainian oligarchs may be arrested, and the interests of financial and industrial groups in exporting goods to the same EU may be infringed. This half to the point of frightening the Ukrainian authorities, and the very positive bill 8711 was never submitted to the second reading. And, as we see, the opposite bill has been filed, according to which they will discriminate against all who are against the propaganda of homosexuality for children. http://from-ua.com/voice/6aad3a5d5caa3.html
                1. Old_kapitan
                  Old_kapitan 6 May 2013 12: 44
                  +3
                  And the gop-position responded in February with the exact opposite: “On February 19, the Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine registered bill 2342 ......, aimed at the so-called“ protection against discrimination ”of sexual perverts and at real discrimination of the majority.

                  Wise Kaa, and our gop-position doesn’t care which bills to put forward, if only not like in the regionals.
                2. Scythian 35
                  Scythian 35 6 May 2013 16: 11
                  -1
                  I apologize, but I’m not on this topic, I’m not acting and can’t help you in anything !!!
              2. anton107798
                anton107798 6 May 2013 12: 19
                -5
                Quote: Alexander Romanov
                This is you at the georopeian sites


                Here is a wonderful response from the Russian people about the Europeans, but I remember EURO 2012 ... Kharkiv, Freedom Square, Holland's fan zone ... for two weeks the Dutch were visiting us, I went there to have a rest ... So, Russians there was darkness! It got to the point that the poor Dutch began to get confused. After all, the flag of the Russian Federation is a slightly modified flag of the Netherlands. So in front of me, the Dutchman stops the Russians and says something to them, and they say "RUSHEN" to him ... the Dutchmen apologized, took pictures TOGETHER, then I looked at the beer together ... In general, not fights, not hooligans, friendship! But these were probably not real, not patriotic Russians.
                1. Imperial
                  Imperial 6 May 2013 13: 11
                  0
                  . So, the Russians were darkness! It got to the point that the poor Dutch began to get confused. After all, the flag of the Russian Federation is a slightly modified flag of Holland.
                  Well, who did you understand))) And according to the text: as the old man Stanislavsky (Alekseev) used to say, I DO NOT BELIEVE. For what the Austrians tell you, because your flag is the flag of lower Austria)))
                  1. anton107798
                    anton107798 6 May 2013 13: 21
                    0
                    Quote: Imperial
                    Well, who did you understand


                    Yes, do not believe, not my own story is not for me. if you don’t know the history of your own flag, this is not my problem. Yes, and I didn’t write about the flag, but about the relations between Russians and the Dutch, but as you can see, you read only a line about the flag
                    1. Imperial
                      Imperial 6 May 2013 14: 54
                      0
                      No, I’m just about the Dutch, or you don’t have customs, or there is grass on every corner, this is the only way to explain the “latrine” of the Dutch people, although it seems to me that YOU composed this opus.
                  2. Kaa
                    Kaa 6 May 2013 13: 44
                    +2
                    Quote: Imperial
                    because your flag is the flag of lower Austria
                    I do not agree, rather the symbolism of Barbados - here and "zhovtoblakytnist", and "fork" - all symbols of Ukraine come from the Caribbean !!!!!!
                    1. anton107798
                      anton107798 6 May 2013 14: 00
                      +2
                      Quote: Kaa
                      Ukraine comes from the Caribbean



                      and on the topic to answer? But it’s obvious that it’s too difficult, and it’s certainly easier to poke, to mock;
                2. smile
                  smile 6 May 2013 16: 40
                  +4
                  anton107798
                  Well, we’re not savages, and at the household level we normally communicate with everyone who treats us normally. Well is there anything surprising?
            2. Kars
              Kars 6 May 2013 10: 26
              +1
              Quote: Scythian 35
              let's express our thoughts less and humiliate a neighbor in a similar way

              Not like that, they also need to sympathize with someone, express their sincere preoccupation with the situation, tell them what to do, where to go)))) At least somehow feel their significance)) At the same time, confirm the proverb about the log in the eye.
              But nothing dogs bark, the caravan goes))
              1. Scythian 35
                Scythian 35 6 May 2013 10: 31
                0
                And the minuses are probably put behind the checkbox without reading.
                1. Nesvet Nezar
                  Nesvet Nezar 6 May 2013 11: 40
                  +4
                  I doubt the flag, although it causes aggression and laughter at the same time =)) I think the minuses are put for your appeal - the Russians ... The Russians in Russia are like cockles in Ukraine, in the vein of insult, after the period of Yeltsin’s reign =))))
              2. knn54
                knn54 6 May 2013 13: 47
                -9
                Kars: ... the dogs bark, the caravan is coming.
                Nothing personal. Let's check the attitude of SOME visitors to the Native classics:
                Academician Pavlov: "I must express my sad look at the Russian person - he has such a weak brain system that he is not able to perceive reality as such. For him there are only words. His conditioned reflexes are coordinated not with actions, but with words."
                Alexei Tolstoy: "Muscovy is Taiga Rus, Mongolian, wild, bestial."
                Fyodor Dostoevsky: "A people that wanders around Europe and seeks what can be destroyed, destroyed just for the sake of entertainment."
                Ivan Aksakov: “Oh, how hard it is to live in Russia, in this stinking center of physical and moral depravity, meanness, lies and villainy.”
                Ivan Turgenev: "The Russian is the greatest and most inane liar in the whole world."
                1. Hudo
                  Hudo 6 May 2013 16: 35
                  +7
                  Quote: knn54
                  Nothing personal. Let's check the attitude of SOME visitors to the Native classics:


                  You ....., a verifier, an inhabitant of online garbage cans and virtual cesspools, you can continue to wallow in the Internet mud false quotes.

                  Fyodor Dostoevsky: "A people that wanders around Europe and seeks what can be destroyed, destroyed just for the sake of entertainment."

                  The phrase is taken out of context. Dostoevsky critically reflects on the European view of Russians.

                  Check the search links below!

                  The diary of a writer. 1876:
                  http://az.lib.ru/d/dostoewskij_f_m/text_0480.shtml

                  "I said that Russians do not like in Europe. That they do not like - about this, I think, no one will argue, but, by the way, we are accused in Europe, all Russians, almost without exception, that we are terrible liberals, moreover, revolutionaries and always, with some even love, tend to join the destructive rather than conservative elements of Europe. For this, many Europeans look at us mockingly and hatefully: they do not understand why we should be deniers in someone else's business, they positively take away from us the right of European denial - on the grounds that they do not recognize us as belonging to civilization. They see us rather as barbarians, staggering across Europe and rejoicing that something can be destroyed somewhere, only to destroy, for pleasure, just to see how it all falls apart, like a horde of savages, like the Huns who are ready to flood ancient Rome and destroy the shrine, even without any idea of ​​what kind of jewel they are destroying. It is true that the majority of Russians in Europe have declared themselves liberals in Europe, and even this is strange. Did anyone ever ask himself the question: why is this so? Why almost nine-tenths of Russians, throughout our entire century, cultivated in Europe, have always adhered to that layer of Europeans that was liberal, to the left side, that is, always to the side that itself denied its own culture, its own civilization, more or less of course (what Thiers denies in civilization and what the Paris Commune of '71 denied in it are extremely different) "

                  They poked you in the face and vomit of your own lie. The rest of your quotes - the same price, however, as you yourself.
                  1. knn54
                    knn54 6 May 2013 17: 12
                    -1
                    Gleb. Do not poke and be rude. This is the last argument and a penny to him (like you). Quotes, by the way, are not mine. I have no desire what
                    the argument turned into a quarrel, a quarrel into a fight, a fight into a wake, a wake into a party, a party into a dispute ...
                    And henceforth - do not confuse Ukrainians with Galician rabble!
                    1. Hudo
                      Hudo 6 May 2013 17: 24
                      +1
                      Nikolay, you have seen a text from which one of the quotation types cited as an "argument", also in a twisted form, has been torn out. What kind of reaction did you expect? Perhaps a serving of strawberries a la Kyusi? And where did you notice the poking?
                2. Kaa
                  Kaa 6 May 2013 17: 16
                  +5
                  Quote: knn54
                  knn54
                  Quote: knn54
                  there is the greatest and most liar liar in the whole world
                  :"The idea of ​​this article is inspired by the posts of some dark personalities who publish examples of quotes on various Internet sites supposedly belonging to famous Russian figures, in which the dignity and mental abilities of the Russian people are humiliated 1. Academician Pavlov: "I must express my sad look at the Russian person - he has such a weak brain system that he is not able to perceive reality as such. For him there are only words. His conditioned reflexes are coordinated not with actions, but with words." 1932 year. When Pavlov did not say or write anything like that. From a physiological point of view, the false quote attributed to academician Pavlov is absolutely amateurish. Even if we discard the absolutely delusional and Russophobic first sentence, having heard that old Pavlov, without hesitation, I would conduct an emergency lobotomy of the author’s inflamed brain such nonsense, then, in the third, the abnormality of the connection between the conditioned reflex and words is postulated. Although, even people far from science, they understand that the higher the neurophysiological organization of a person, the more he is capable of reflex actions based on speech. Apparently, the author of this quote is worse than a trained dog - since he is not able to coordinate his activities with words. Alexei Tolstoy: "Muscovy is the taiga Rus, Mongolian, wild, bestial." The works of Alexei Nikolaevich and Alexei Konstantinovich were checked. Both writers never said or wrote anything like this. Check the search links below! Complete works of both: http://az.lib.ru/t/tolstoj_a_n/ http://az.lib.ru/t/tolstoj_a_k/
                  Fyodor Dostoevsky: "A people that wanders around Europe and seeks what can be destroyed, destroyed just for the sake of entertainment."The phrase is taken out of context. Dostoevsky critically reflects on the European view of Russians.
                  The diary of a writer. 1876 ​​year
                  http://az.lib.ru/d/dostoewskij_f_m/text_0480.shtml
                  I said that Russians are not liked in Europe. They don’t argue that they don’t like it, but, by the way, they accuse us of Europe, of all Russians, almost without exception, that we are terrible liberals, moreover, they are revolutionaries and are always inclined with some kind of love join the destructive rather than the conservative elements of Europe. They are watching us for it. many europeans mockingly and downcast - hateful: they don’t understand why we should be deniers in someone else’s business, they positively rob us of the right of European denial - on the grounds that they do not recognize us as belonging to civilization. They see in us, it’s more like barbarians staggering across Europe and rejoicing that something and somewhere can be destroyed - destroyed only for destruction, for pleasure it’s just to see how it all falls apart, like a horde of savages, like the Huns who are ready to flood into ancient Rome and destroy the shrine, even without any idea of ​​what kind of jewel they are destroying. http://warrax.net/91-92/info.html
                  TROLL THINNER THERE, THERE ON THE LINK YOU CAN ALSO BE MUCH MUCH GARBAGE fool
            3. Gecko
              Gecko 6 May 2013 11: 15
              +6
              The Americans don’t write anything about you at all, because it’s them who are specifically for you.
            4. Old_kapitan
              Old_kapitan 6 May 2013 11: 37
              +8
              Citizens of Russia, let’s express their thoughts less in this way and humiliate your neighboring state.

              Did someone say a lie somewhere? So why be offended? I myself will subscribe to every word of the same Fidget.
            5. anton107798
              anton107798 6 May 2013 12: 11
              -7
              Quote: Scythian 35
              Russian citizens


              will not help, right now they will be minded ... the word UKRAINE is like a red rag to a bull! Right now, you will find out who you are and what Ukrainians think about us.
              1. anton107798
                anton107798 6 May 2013 13: 27
                -2
                Quote: anton107798
                will be nominated right now



                well, it turned out to be right))) everything is so predictable ... well, come on, minus
              2. smile
                smile 6 May 2013 16: 47
                +3
                anton107798
                Cons is the attitude towards you and your position ... do not take on too much, claiming to represent Ukraine and all Ukrainians ...
            6. Corsair
              Corsair 6 May 2013 15: 30
              +1
              Quote: Scythian 35
              The more you care about Ukraine in this way, the wider steps nationalism penetrates the east of Ukraine !!!

              Nationalism across the whole of Ukraine is implanted from Kiev, through the passive contemplation of what is happening in the western regions. What is only one reaction of the authorities (or rather its imitation) to impose a ban on celebrating Victory Day!?
              But it’s just a matter of business: to submit a submission to the Constitutional Court of Ukraine, to suspend decisions that are obviously contrary to the Constitution, and only after the celebration Paramogi Day to dot I.
            7. smile
              smile 6 May 2013 16: 37
              +5
              Scythian 35
              In part, you are right, but you may not see that our bay is directed not against the Ukrainians and Ukraine, but against your overly loud Bandera, near-Bandera nationalists, as well as against the actions of politicians who connived and lead Ukraine away from Russia ... moreover to the detriment of Ukraine itself ...
              1. Scythian 35
                Scythian 35 7 May 2013 21: 07
                -1
                smile

                Understand that each person has some kind of pride, dignity, his own point of view, some kind of pride for his country, for his people. The President did not work out, God bless him, but there are thousands of other reasons to be proud of his country.
                Having come to this, the site of Ukrainians is accused of all sins, asked for tolerance, and I am told about the movement of sexual minorities in Europe, if a person has a problem, it's not my fault !!!
                An outsider will come to this site, and here - to take away Crimea, in Kiev with a nuclear warhead, to scatter the entire population from the right bank of the Dnieper, etc.
                A person will immediately think, but I have such integration with such people !!! Moreover, he will remember the old sins of the communists - here's a new voter for the Svoboda party.
                I didn’t want to earn cons, but since I’ve said so. In percentage terms, the western regions of Ukraine voted the most for the freedom party, while in quantitative terms almost half were given by four regions. And guess what ??? Regions of this distance, the percentage is small 4-6%, but in quantity all this resulted in almost half of those who voted in Ukraine. Fall Kharkiv, Dnipropetrovsk, Kherson and Odessa regions.
      2. Captain Vrungel
        Captain Vrungel 6 May 2013 07: 36
        +6
        Shaw. You all clung to Yanukovych. Pahanat chose it on the exterior, grandmother liked Schaub. Schaub's brains were absent. Schaub did what they ordered. So he does. Some in the vehicle are torn, others in the EU. They can’t decide in any way, but he suffers. They write one on the teleprompter, the earphone whispers another in the ear, so he is involuntarily at a loss.
        And in general, sho you all climb with your unions, only interfere with life. There are enough own "kazlov".
        1. MG42
          MG42 6 May 2013 07: 44
          +6
          Quote: Captain Vrungel
          Shaw you all clung to Yanukovych ..... >>> Own "kazlov" enough.

          About the goats that interfere with life .... no comment
      3. taseka
        taseka 6 May 2013 15: 18
        +1
        Quote: MG42
        what the previous presidents of Ukraine did before him = sitting on two chairs

        Their name is "Political prostitutes"
        But we will find out the goals after 100 years! Or glorify or curse !!!
    3. Kars
      Kars 6 May 2013 10: 24
      +6
      How nice it is to be so attentive to Ukraine. That article is not a day, or even a few. It’s time to rename the site to Ukrainian Review)))))
      1. Nesvet Nezar
        Nesvet Nezar 6 May 2013 11: 42
        10
        Ukraine is part of Russia. Ukrainians are Russians living in Ukraine.
      2. anton107798
        anton107798 6 May 2013 12: 23
        -6
        Quote: Kars
        How nice it is to be so attentive to Ukraine


        I go to the site and look through articles no longer in search of news about weapons and something, but in search of articles about Ukraine ... It's so nice to read about my native land. By the way, you will learn a lot, especially historical articles are impressive. I really then laugh for a long time ...
        1. Kaa
          Kaa 6 May 2013 17: 21
          +2
          Quote: anton107798
          I really then laugh for a long time.
          LAUGHTER WITHOUT REASON - A SIGN fool
        2. APASUS
          APASUS 6 May 2013 22: 13
          +1
          Quote: anton107798
          I go to the site and look through articles no longer in search of news about weapons and something, but in search of articles about Ukraine ... It's so nice to read about my native land. By the way, you will learn a lot, especially historical articles are impressive. I really then laugh for a long time ...

          Why this sarcasm?
          You do not like the site, or you say nothing?
          If you have something to say write an article, imagine your view on the same history of Ukraine!
      3. alex13-61
        alex13-61 6 May 2013 12: 35
        +7
        Krasu: What would I, a resident of Ukraine, do on this site if I hadn’t written a word about this Ukraine ????
        1. Kars
          Kars 6 May 2013 12: 40
          -3
          Quote: alex13-61
          Beauty

          Karsu
          Quote: alex13-61
          And what would I, a resident of Ukraine, do on this site?

          Look for news about Ukraine on the Russian patriotic site))) you are not a masochist by accident?
          And read about tanks, you didn’t like the article about the 68 bis cruiser? About the beginning of American stealth?
          1. alex13-61
            alex13-61 6 May 2013 21: 21
            0
            Kars: if I were a masochist, I would visit completely different sites (for sexual perverts), and I’m looking for news and, especially, analytics about Ukraine on a Russian patriotic site, because I live in Crimea and cannot be separated from Russia ...
            1. Kars
              Kars 6 May 2013 21: 27
              +1
              Quote: alex13-61
              I’m looking for analytics about Ukraine on a Russian patriotic website, because I live in Crimea and cannot be separated from Russia ...


              In vain, but these are your personal problems. But then, in principle, I do not understand the essence of your question
              Quote: alex13-61
              site, if not a word about this same Ukraine was not written here ???? Nonsense melete Dear ....

              Your personal problems, and why ask me what are you doing here really stupid))

              but you get a couple of pluses))))
              1. alex13-61
                alex13-61 7 May 2013 14: 11
                0
                Yes, I, it seems, did not ask you a question, dear, your answer was - it was ... but "you" is not stupidity, but something else ... (we didn’t use brotherhood, as - no way ...)
                1. Kars
                  Kars 8 May 2013 09: 18
                  +1
                  Quote: alex13-61
                  Yes, I kind of didn’t ask you a question

                  Quote: alex13-61
                  Beauty:

                  Quote: alex13-61
                  And what would I, a resident of Ukraine, do on this site if there wasn’t a word written about this Ukraine ????


                  even a resident of Ukraine could be put in quotation marks. And the question and appeals are very obvious, but it turns out to be just plain stupid.

                  Quote: alex13-61
                  not brudershaft we did not use with you, as in no way.

                  Through no, it’s difficult, but you don’t bother, take an example from me. Be simpler and people will reach for you))))))
      4. Gecko
        Gecko 6 May 2013 12: 45
        +4
        You forget that propaganda is also a weapon.
        You don’t know? The Americans are pumping billions of dollars into you, why should they fight, they will print more green papers, buy up local princes on the vine, pay politicians and journalists, they will all the wishes of the West and publicize, and naive people think that this is their decision, and they will pay off, all the bills in foreign banks will freeze ...
        1. Kars
          Kars 6 May 2013 13: 13
          -5
          Quote: gecko
          Americans are bucking in you billions of dollars

          What are you? Where are they? Somewhere the billions are swelling and they didn’t call me)))
          Quote: gecko
          nor all the desires of the west and propiar

          and what? desires from the east do not inspire me either.
          Quote: gecko
          You forget that propaganda is also a weapon.
          You don’t know?

          What can I say - your use of this weapon is quite possible to save the Americans a couple of billions, even though the Americans can sponsor it - posting here such statues, and provocateurs Bovalov)))
          1. Gecko
            Gecko 6 May 2013 15: 59
            +4
            Quote: Kars

            What are you? Where are they? Somewhere the billions are swelling and they didn’t call me)))


            And you will spin around their NPOs, for example, the Soros Fund, etc., maybe that will be cut short.

            Here in Russia, some of the paid "demolitionists" were slapped in the ears, the same TV presenter Savik Shuster and Yevgeny Kiselev, they went to your Ukraine to corrupt the people.
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            2. Kars
              Kars 6 May 2013 18: 51
              -1
              Quote: gecko
              And you will spin around their NPOs, for example, the Soros Fund, etc., maybe that will be cut short.


              They would throw in billions)) For a long time everyone would speak Ukrainian, your fleet would collect things in Novorossiysk, and at the border there would be a three-row kalyushka and minefields))))
              Quote: gecko
              TV presenters Savik Schuster and Eugene Kiselev, they left for you to Ukraine to decompose the people.

              NDA, you are some kind of weak people if you can kiss Kiselev with nimble))))
        2. Scythian 35
          Scythian 35 6 May 2013 16: 19
          -7
          Quote: gecko
          buy up local princes on the vine

          enviously !!! your price is much less !!!
          1. Gecko
            Gecko 6 May 2013 16: 33
            +4
            We can also send to you all the prominent teachers there, according to the list, to promote democracy and integration into the European Union, NATO, etc.
            Yavlinsky, Nemtsov, Akunin, Ryzhkov, Kasparov, Parkhomenko, Khakamada, Navalny, Udaltsov, Sobchak, etc. etc.
            1. Ivan.
              Ivan. 6 May 2013 17: 52
              +1
              It’s not fraternal not to shit on the Outskirts, it’s better to go back to London with the deprivation of citizenship and the right to enter the community, which is the real world community.
          2. Ivan.
            Ivan. 6 May 2013 17: 54
            0
            Found something to brag about!
    4. vadimus
      vadimus 6 May 2013 10: 57
      +4
      Yes, Europe does not need Ukraine. Europe itself is the last H.P. eats without salt. But the confused behavior of the authorities clearly does not play in favor of fraternal peoples ...
  2. Jurkovs
    Jurkovs 6 May 2013 07: 23
    +5
    Economic being determines political consciousness. Who owns the Ukrainian economy, who determines its economic existence? Ukrainian oligarchs! What do comprador, depatriotic oligarchs need? Rob, rob and rob again. It is best to do this while sitting between chairs, in an atmosphere of chaos and permissiveness. Until Ukrainian society understands specifically what belongs to whom and how it is managed, there will be no progress.
  3. Belogor
    Belogor 6 May 2013 08: 27
    0
    Ukraine can only twist booty to sell itself more profitably, because more then she has nothing but ambition.
    1. anton107798
      anton107798 6 May 2013 12: 07
      -6
      Quote: Belogor
      Ukraine can only twist booty to sell itself more profitably, because more then she has nothing but ambition.


      What then are you so anxious to draw us into the vehicle? After all, we have only ambitions. you see your government does not understand what, but you, ordinary people, understand everything, know everything, but it’s not your ambition that sits in the president’s chair
      1. Naval
        Naval 6 May 2013 12: 55
        +2
        What then are you so anxious to draw us into the vehicle?
        I feel sorry for relatives living in Ukraine, who against the background of the Russians look like beggars, and ahead is a foggy and uncertain future.
        1. anton107798
          anton107798 6 May 2013 13: 24
          -7
          Quote: Naval
          Russians look like beggars


          Oh laughed))))) aaaaaaaaaaaa !!!! Sorry? feel sorry for ourselves, we don’t seem to ask for pity!
          1. Naval
            Naval 6 May 2013 16: 35
            -1
            You, I do not regret it, I feel sorry for the relatives, Ukrainians have managed to give birth to them, and they are suffering.
        2. Scythian 35
          Scythian 35 6 May 2013 16: 23
          -4
          I’ll say for sure at the level of Kostroma and Vologda peasants that Ukrainians look like oligarchs, tear your ass from your chair once in your life and drive two hundred kilometers. north of Moscow !!!
      2. Polytechnic
        Polytechnic 7 May 2013 22: 24
        0
        They torn up a single country, I would also like to bring mine back to my place.
  4. Alexander-Tomsk
    Alexander-Tomsk 6 May 2013 08: 46
    +7
    Each article on the site about Ukraine causes a heated discussion, sometimes gradually developing into a bowel movement between residents of Ukraine and Russia. Friends, let's not quarrel and just wait, I think in the next 2-3 years it will become clear where Ukraine will go to the West or East, or just split up. drinks
    1. Captain Vrungel
      Captain Vrungel 6 May 2013 09: 14
      11
      Yes, Ukraine is not going anywhere. Traditionally, it is expected that someone will come to disperse this mess and put things in order, expelling the men who always bite among themselves (get).
    2. itkul
      itkul 6 May 2013 11: 37
      +3
      Quote: Alexander-Tomsk
      Friends, let's not quarrel and just wait, I think in the next 2-3 years it will become clear where Ukraine will go to the West or East,


      And why wait, they go to Europe and have been talking about this for a long time. There is no work in Ukraine and many Ukrainians go to work abroad, and they need European sports to work abroad. For example, you know that even now a visa to the United States for citizens Russia is given for 2 years, and for citizens of Ukraine for 5 years
      1. smile
        smile 6 May 2013 16: 55
        +2
        itkul
        We go to earn money no less, even we have a lot of them in the Kaliningrad region ... and normally we don’t swear ... :)))))
  5. jungar
    jungar 6 May 2013 09: 10
    +3
    When it comes to Ukraine, for some reason I always remember Oksana from the Gogol night before Christmas.
    1. Hudo
      Hudo 6 May 2013 09: 21
      +6
      Quote: jungar
      When it comes to Ukraine, for some reason I always remember Oksana from the Gogol night before Christmas.


      The only difference is that the blacksmith Vakula has a rival - an unprincipled Euro-pervert intending to hang Oksana euro noodles on her ears and hand her into sexual slavery. And while this same Oksana is being driven by beautiful euro-beads and euro-shines, she does not notice the whip and shackles hidden behind the back of the greedy Euro-pervert.
      1. Hudo
        Hudo 6 May 2013 11: 57
        +3
        Minusators are quiet, there are no arguments, so I quietly minus, as if the air was spoiled by letting in a fetid "whisper" in a decent society and is not recognized. And in general, it's time to tighten this minus on the quiet - clicked on the "minus", a window opened for writing an answer - no slobbering - walk in the forest. There are no arguments against, instead of "minus" - smoke bamboo. I'm not writing because of the rating, it's just time for deaf-mute minusers to teach the human language.
        1. yur
          yur 6 May 2013 20: 37
          0
          Well, dear, if what you wrote is a "human" language, then it is better for us to "quietly" read articles and keep quiet.
    2. alex13-61
      alex13-61 6 May 2013 12: 29
      +1
      No, rather, I recall Solokha ... It is exactly what modern Ukraine resembles ...
  6. Arkan
    Arkan 6 May 2013 10: 45
    +1
    Since the collapse of the USSR, I never went to the polls, I just didn’t see the point. This time I’ll probably go and vote for Yanukovych - there’s simply no real alternative to him.
    1. Hudo
      Hudo 6 May 2013 11: 34
      +2
      Quote: Arkan
      Since the collapse of the USSR, I never went to the polls, I just didn’t see the point. This time I’ll probably go and vote for Yanukovych - there’s simply no real alternative to him.

      Dear Arkan, there really is no alternative. But not Yanukovych, but actually there’s no one to choose from. In the last election, I voted for this, as it turned out the European integrator, damn it, now - I will not go at all. Let the zavgar draw voices for himself.
      1. Egoza
        Egoza 6 May 2013 12: 09
        +5
        Quote: Hudo
        now - I won’t go at all. Let the zavgar draw voices for himself.

        It is MANDATORY to go to the polls. And if there is no one for whom they would vote, and the item "against all" was removed from us, then you just need to spoil the ballot so that it will not be added later, "who needs it"
        1. Hudo
          Hudo 6 May 2013 12: 12
          +2
          Quote: Egoza
          Quote: Hudo
          now - I won’t go at all. Let the zavgar draw voices for himself.

          It is MANDATORY to go to the polls. And if there is no one for whom they would vote, and the item "against all" was removed from us, then you just need to spoil the ballot so that it will not be added later, "who needs it"


          I agree, Elena, that’s really better.
          1. Ivan.
            Ivan. 6 May 2013 13: 36
            +2
            It turns out that I can even take bluetooth with me and they will not draw a new one?
      2. Kaa
        Kaa 6 May 2013 12: 27
        +2
        Quote: Hudo
        Dear Arkan, there really is no alternative. But not Yanukovych, but actually there’s no one to choose from
        From Ukraine and Yanukovych in particular, the Americans themselves are o.kh.r.e..e.s. and: "The influential American newspaper New York Times devoted a column to the situation in Ukraine.
        In particular, the publication notes that the Tymoshenko case is a litmus test that demonstrates how Ukraine is torn between “European sensitivity and traditions deeply rooted since the Soviet Union.” Andrew Kramer called the author of the article Viktor Yanukovych is a “strong and provincial” politician whom critics perceived as a Russian puppet. However, now, in their deep surprise, the president rejects attempts to attract Ukraine into the Russian sphere of influence.Further, the American writes, not without irony, that “at home, Yanukovych does not refuse to plant opponents and then pleases some with release.”Such amazing activity of the Ukrainian leader “increases the country's international isolation,” writes the New York Times.http: //politics.puls.kiev.ua/person/169560.html#1367780452
    2. Ivan.
      Ivan. 6 May 2013 12: 24
      0
      And you also have no point "against all"? You must understand that all Yanukovychs are promoted "brands" and are promoted by the same forces. I would go to vote if a group of good people empowered the best of themselves, who would embody their vision of what the country should be (only he can really make mistakes and not blame them on mistakes), and here with a 5% barrier, power can come only a politician, and a politician is a benefit and means a lie and a choice between bad and very bad, and which of them who is not very clear because it makes sense - to cast your vote and then be silent in a rag - for me it is not. In general, elections are designed to legitimize the choice of certain forces. Show
  7. Captain Vrungel
    Captain Vrungel 6 May 2013 10: 58
    +1
    It is better to live with a stepfather like Lukashenko than to coexist with such a father.
  8. Canep
    Canep 6 May 2013 11: 50
    +3
    (the uprising of oil workers in the Kazakh city of Zhanaozen in December 2011 claimed 700 lives)

    What kind of nonsense hardly so many people participated in the riots (700 people were fired for an illegal strike), and the author writes about the mass execution. Then 14 people were killed, and about 150 were injured, according to the official version. Even if 70 people actually died (according to unofficial data), the author definitely lies about 700 dead.
    But if the Russian Federation for almost 70 years created on the site of nomads civilized states, with China has only genetic kinship and only.

    The first time I put a minus for an article.
    What is the genetic relationship between the Uzbeks, Tajiks and Turkmens can be with the Chinese? Kazakhs and Kyrgyz have only external resemblance. If you follow the logic of the author, the Spaniards and Caucasians have a genetic relationship.
  9. HAM
    HAM 6 May 2013 11: 55
    +2
    Guys, let's live in peace! HUDO. And he will draw his own voices, don’t hesitate, don’t make his life easier!
    1. Hudo
      Hudo 6 May 2013 12: 06
      +1
      Quote: HAM
      Guys, let's live in peace! HUDO. And he will draw his own voices, don’t hesitate, don’t make his life easier!


      And I have no doubt, I myself live in Lugansk. In the mayoral election, the representative of the party party Kilinkarov actually won, and the representative of the party of Yanukovych Kravchenko drew a victory.http: //www.aif.ua/politic/news/28708 or http://comments.ua/politics/228794-kilinkarov- nadeetsya-poymat.html and after that, who will believe after that that in the 2012 parliamentary elections, none of the Reds went to parliament in majoritarian districts.

      But I won’t go to the polls anyway - let the Euro-integrator and Russophobe Yanukevich draw a bastard, maybe he can turn his neck on it.
      1. Egoza
        Egoza 6 May 2013 12: 17
        +2
        Quote: Hudo
        let the bastard draws the European integrator and Russophobe Yanukevich, maybe he can turn his neck on it.

        It’s Yanukovych hopes that he will go out in the second round with Tyagnibok, and people will choose Yanuk so that they won’t choose a fascist. However, Klitschko also has his own ambitions for this post. Look how quickly he returned to the sport, he won the battle, honor and glory to the Ukrainian athlete .... While Yanuk is not supported now, they can very well choose Klitschko. Only now they do not realize that Klitschko is Yushchenko No. 2. Just look at his declaration
        “The total income for 2012 of the People’s Deputy, the leader of the“ BLOW ”faction in the Verkhovna Rada, Vitali Klitschko, amounted to 11,204 thousand UAH. This is stated in his declaration, published by the parliamentary newspaper Voice of Ukraine. (Well, just like our pensioners - less than 1000 hryvnia per month! laughing )
        However, he has a different picture abroad. As they say in Odessa, oil painting. According to the declaration, the amount of income received (accrued) from sources outside Ukraine (from Germany) is $ 5 million (UAH 40 million). V. Klitschko owns, rents or otherwise uses the apartment with a total area of ​​225 sq. M. m
        The amount of funds in accounts in banks and other financial institutions owned by V. Klitschko is 121 million 342 thousand 842 UAH., Including abroad - 121 million 342 thousand 842 UAH.
        At the same time, the UDAR leader did not publish information about the income of his family members.
        http://www.vremia.ua/news/1626.php
        xxxxx
        The question of where he will direct Ukraine to eat? I do not have!
        1. Hudo
          Hudo 6 May 2013 12: 32
          +5
          Quote: Egoza
          . Despite the fact that Yanuk is no longer supported, they may well choose Klitschko. Only now they don’t realize that Klitschko is Yushchenko No. 2


          Klitschko in me personally causes persistent disgust since the time of the maydaun, where this steroid broiler raged for the amusement of cattle along with Beeloopas Golodomorovich Yushchenko. Since then, when he tied an orange rag to his panties in the ring. And now, he has the whole broken orange deck in his party "Frenzy".
          Threat. And he is not a boxer now, boxing is far behind now this is a staged box-like wrestling with beating bags and a well-known result and fee. Ugh and all.
          1. Canep
            Canep 6 May 2013 12: 38
            +2
            But whoever the Ukrainians choose to steer, the oligarchs will still be.
          2. aepocmam
            aepocmam 6 May 2013 13: 32
            +3
            Klitschko's party is called not "IMPACT", but "3,14DAR"
        2. Old_kapitan
          Old_kapitan 6 May 2013 12: 58
          +2
          Dear Fidget, the battle was won by Vladimir, not Vitaly. love I do not dislike his income - he earned them with his head and hands, unlike Yanukovych. But here's the flirting with "Svolota" and the fascist Tyagnibok ...
          1. Egoza
            Egoza 6 May 2013 17: 14
            +1
            Quote: Old_Kapitan
            Vladimir won the battle, not Vitaliy

            Thanks for the clarification Valery! I am not against their income. Won, earned, honor and praise. I'm talking about something else. You can't be as two-faced as Vitaly. And I doubt that the younger protests him. You cannot pretend to be the president of Ukraine, keeping all your business over the hill. This applies to all other "willing". And although somewhere Vitaly is now trying to distance himself from opposition rallies, he only caught himself late. Has already shown his "face"
            1. Hudo
              Hudo 6 May 2013 19: 01
              +1
              [img] http: // https: //encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images? q = tbn: ANd9GcQ3mS0PneSxhojl
              664qaLbe45lTxmF-2HwGoAG2BlClA9yT7BW5bg[/img]

              He fraternizes with the leader of the Ukrainian fascists.
            2. Old_kapitan
              Old_kapitan 7 May 2013 10: 03
              0
              Has already shown his "face"

              Here I am about the same ... negative
  10. Naval
    Naval 6 May 2013 12: 45
    +1
    Following the local folk wisdom that "Pokirlev's calf of two queens sse" our unlucky brothers still hope to "squeeze out" both Europe and Russia, but it looks like the freebie is over, you have to make a choice - who are you with? Therefore, there is no need to waste eloquence :), the abscess will open by itself, and very soon hi
  11. Nomad
    Nomad 6 May 2013 13: 18
    +3
    "(the uprising of oil workers in the Kazakh city of Zhanaozen in December 2011 claimed 700 lives)"
    Is this a mistake or someone's heavy nonsense? In Zhanaozen, 17 (seventeen) people died.
  12. IRBIS
    IRBIS 6 May 2013 13: 27
    +3
    Interesting ...
    Ukraine is a sovereign state. There is both the President and the Government who determine foreign and domestic policies. Let the Ukrainians decide with whom and in which direction to move. And we all impose ourselves on "brothers", give "sensible" advice. They need them, our advice? What, from here it is better to see what is going on with them? They will figure out their own lives. And they do not require special help, they only ask not to interfere. And the compulsion to brotherhood always ends in failure. Or does history teach nothing? Or are there not enough of our own problems and give us Ukrainian ones too? Reunion? And what will you, excuse me, Slavic patriots, do with Western Ukraine? She just won't want to reunite with the "fraternal" Russian people. Oh, how he doesn't want to ...
  13. Sergey Tregubov
    Sergey Tregubov 6 May 2013 13: 32
    +2
    we are a civilized nation ... we are shunemo (slowly moving crawling) to GeyRopa ... the dream is NOT Russian (Ukrainian ... And ... ntsya) ... hut, verba pid tynom, tall, pervach, fat, fat. fat ... a lot of SALA ... oxen and ... dumplings in our yard ... it’s cold too long ... oh oh that mustache damned znoglyulyut to fuck us sincere NOT Russian ... do not give breaths, gaz.les, oil mustache Without pay more ... raise ... we are a civilized nation with Trypillian pots ... gay gay before GayRopa.
    1. anton107798
      anton107798 6 May 2013 14: 05
      -6
      Quote: Sergey Tregubov
      Sergey Tregubov


      did you even understand what you wrote?
      do you want to write yourself zrozumіv scho?
      1. IRBIS
        IRBIS 6 May 2013 14: 18
        0
        He can neither read nor write, much less think. And you write something about "understood"! Don't bother talking to nothingness.
      2. Tektor
        Tektor 6 May 2013 14: 33
        0
        I didn't understand anything, absolutely. But I can clearly see that Ukraine has turned into a "hot potato", which the "players" are trying to throw to each other. It is quite obvious that Ukraine is "not needed" as (that violinist) a project for some kind of socio-political development. Ukraine today is a burden, a yoke that only requires huge resources to maintain the status quo. The geopolitical situation is heating up, and to have such "chains" on their eggs is like death. Therefore, the unambiguous conclusion is that Ukraine will not be accepted anywhere ... And the territory will be "developed" for military bases. The NATO base near Odessa has already been built ...
  14. Black
    Black 6 May 2013 14: 22
    +3
    Quote: IRBIS
    coercion to fraternity always ends in failure

    Great words. Framed. And in the epigraph to all articles about fraternal Ukraine!
    We would decide for ourselves what chair to sit on, how to raise the economy, and not indicate to others.
  15. Makarov
    Makarov 6 May 2013 15: 20
    0
    People's Deputy of Ukraine from Zaporozhye V.A. Boguslaev in his interview to his TV channel Alex promoted his interests ...
  16. Makarov
    Makarov 6 May 2013 15: 24
    +3
    Very sensibly written article .. thank you very much, author ...
  17. alexander rus.
    alexander rus. 6 May 2013 17: 09
    0
    Quote: Naval
    What then are you so anxious to draw us into the vehicle?
    I feel sorry for relatives living in Ukraine, who against the background of the Russians look like beggars, and ahead is a foggy and uncertain future.

    So help your relatives financially! And that is a pity. "It's a pity at the bee"
  18. arseke
    arseke 6 May 2013 21: 09
    0
    When will Ukraine finally have adequate power? Not a power but some circus
    What nafig Europe? Why is it striving for a block that falls apart and degenerates? Especially when you have close associates who will take.
  19. ABV
    ABV 6 May 2013 22: 56
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    The amazing country of Ukraine. It would seem - look what happened to Bulgaria, Romania, the Baltic states after the entry - they killed their own energy and forced to buy from the e-union at higher prices, the industry was bought up or destroyed, residents work in the eurozone countries as second-rate servants ... The European Union eats new members! But no, everything is the same ...
  20. Goblin 28
    Goblin 28 7 May 2013 17: 03
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    Dear wise KAA!
    Ready to sign your every word! Usually it happens - all the negative statements of the Great Russians about Russians, supposedly in a negative way, always break out of contexts and are designed for ignorance and that, as a rule, no one will check.