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The United States decided to transfer squadron of convertible planes to Japan

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The US authorities will transfer the 12 Osprey convertiplanes to Japan, Pentagon chief Chuck Hagel announced Monday after talks with Japanese Defense Minister Itunori Onodera.


"We confirm the deployment of the second squadron (convertoplans) MV-22" Osprey "in Japan, which will occur this summer and which will increase our (military) capabilities in the region," ITAR-TASS quoted the head of the American military department.

The main part of the US military facilities in Japan is located on the island of Okinawa. Recently, the American military presence is causing increasing discontent among the population of the prefecture. This is partly due to the transfer to the island of convertible planes of vertical take-off "Osprey", which locals consider to be unsafe.

Boeing and Bell Helicopter Textron corporations began developing the V-22 a quarter of a century ago. They were supposed to replace the helicopters of the Vietnam War. Designers had to overcome many difficulties. Several prototypes and first produced cars crashed during tests. Only in 2000, the 23 marines were killed in the wrecks of Osprey.

However, according to the Pentagon, the V-22 convertoplanes showed themselves quite well in military operations in Iraq and Afghanistan. They can deliver up to 24 people over a distance of 900 km, reaching speeds of up to 620 km per hour. Each such machine costs from 70 to 89 million dollars.
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  1. Ragnarek
    Ragnarek April 30 2013 11: 14 New
    +7
    and what will these fans change?
    1. Canep
      Canep April 30 2013 11: 18 New
      11
      Against the backdrop of negotiations between Japan and Russia, these fans may become that fly in the ointment in a barrel of treaties signed in Moscow.
      1. patline
        patline April 30 2013 11: 23 New
        +4
        these fans can become that fly in the ointment in a barrel of contracts signed in Moscow.

        Well, that's what they do. Predictably naive.
        1. Army1
          Army1 April 30 2013 14: 29 New
          0
          Well, Korea twitched and calmed down
      2. Goodmen
        Goodmen April 30 2013 11: 25 New
        11
        I wonder how these negotiations will end.
        Surrender of the Kuril Islands or early panic? Although recently in the political course the tendency of squandering "Kemsky volosts" is clearly visible ...
        1. Canep
          Canep April 30 2013 11: 29 New
          +3
          The Kuril Islands can only be handed over in exchange for Japan joining the Customs Union. laughing
          1. ziqzaq
            ziqzaq April 30 2013 11: 49 New
            +7
            Quote: Canep
            The Kuril Islands can only be handed over in exchange for Japan joining the Customs Union

            I do not agree, only with the accession as the subject of the Russian Federation with the state Russian language ...... And what? The Yapis still have no alternatives ...... And don’t have to laugh, you yourself think, for example, the island of Hokaydensky, St. Tokiev, it sounds like ..... Yes, and the Chinese will not be afraid .... ..
            1. Tian
              Tian April 30 2013 11: 54 New
              +1
              Yapov still has no alternatives ......


              Sorry, what?
              1. ziqzaq
                ziqzaq April 30 2013 12: 15 New
                +2
                Quote: Tian
                Sorry, what?

                Either learn Chinese, or Russian, oh yes, or Korean (northern). What did the Yapes do in China with the civilian population, that the Koreans were cut out on Sakhalin, and there was a very large diaspora .... So it’s safer to learn Russian. Tian, ​​take pity on the Japanese, let people live, switch to the ruble, again, at least they will hold normal money in their hands ....
                1. ziqzaq
                  ziqzaq April 30 2013 12: 28 New
                  +3
                  Quote: ziqzaq
                  Tian, ​​take pity on the Japanese

                  Well, Tyan was removed, he did not do otherwise ... Moderators please reanimate him, otherwise the customers defeated him at work, they changed the terms of reference for the third time. You can even laugh with Tyan ...
                2. DeerIvanovich
                  DeerIvanovich April 30 2013 23: 49 New
                  0
                  Ainu lived on Sakhalin, Koreans lived south of Hokkaido
            2. Canep
              Canep April 30 2013 12: 09 New
              0
              Yes, and all the Japanese to rewrite in Yashi, Vani, Olya, etc. laughing
              1. Canep
                Canep April 30 2013 12: 35 New
                0
                And so that it would not hurt them to rename vodka in sake, “Old Russian Sake” - I think it's not bad. laughing
            3. Natalia
              Natalia April 30 2013 14: 21 New
              +1
              Quote: ziqzaq
              Hokaydensky, St. Tokiev, it sounds like ..... Yes, and the Chinese will not be afraid ...

              Honshu-Tokyo Autonomous Region. lol laughing
          2. Su24
            Su24 April 30 2013 13: 07 New
            -2
            Quote: Canep
            The Kuril Islands can only be handed over in exchange for Japan joining the Customs Union. laughing


            I agree! Very true geopolitical proposal.
          3. Akhtuba73
            Akhtuba73 April 30 2013 13: 53 New
            0
            And the guarantor is not a guarantee for you already? He clearly said yesterday ... (sorry for the rude translation)
          4. Konstantm
            Konstantm April 30 2013 20: 21 New
            0
            Quote: Canep
            The Kuril Islands can only be handed over in exchange for Japan joining the Customs Union

            It’s possible to leave any union.
        2. TUMAN
          TUMAN April 30 2013 13: 56 New
          +1
          Quote: Goodmen
          I wonder how these negotiations will end. Surrender of the Kuril Islands or early panic? Although recently in the political course the tendency of squandering "Kemsky volosts" is clearly visible ...

          Along the way, Putin is not the first time to give out Russian lands. He has experience.
      3. leon-iv
        leon-iv April 30 2013 12: 54 New
        0
        What kind of interfere will it be?
      4. Pimply
        Pimply April 30 2013 17: 10 New
        -3
        Here the question is not in relations between Russia and Japan, but in the situation with the DPRK
    2. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov April 30 2013 11: 21 New
      +4
      Quote: Ragnarek
      and what will these fans change?

      Yes, you don’t catch the essence, read -USA decided to transfer ...
      Simultaneously laughing
      Japan celebrates "Restoration of sovereignty" for the first time
      In Japan, on April 28, for the first time in the history of the country, a new state holiday is celebrated - “Day of Restoration of Sovereignty”.
      http://news.mail.ru/politics/12917519/
      Here is such a sovereignty wassat
      1. Natalia
        Natalia April 30 2013 14: 39 New
        +1
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        Here is such a sovereignty

        Haaaa sovereignty))))) You can laugh at this, I will laugh only the first 500 times laughing

        After the defeat in World War II, the Imperial Army of Japan was disbanded, and military factories and educational institutions were closed. The occupation authorities have banned even martial arts. In 1947, the Japanese Constitution was adopted, which legally enshrined Japan's refusal to participate in military conflicts.
        1. TUMAN
          TUMAN April 30 2013 14: 45 New
          0
          Quote: Natalia
          Haaaa sovereignty))))) You can laugh at this, I will laugh only the first 500 times

          It is unlikely that you will laugh with the Japanese, and indeed, laugh about sovereignty after watching this video.
          http://warfiles.ru/show-30074-kak-ssha-upravlyayut-rossiey.html
          1. Natalia
            Natalia April 30 2013 19: 12 New
            0
            REN TV? !!!
            Fu what stupid .... mozhha also channel "RAIN" invite me to watch. winked )))
            .... it seems like I’ll laugh at this joke 750 times))) lol
            1. TUMAN
              TUMAN April 30 2013 21: 41 New
              0
              Quote: Natalia
              REN TV? !!! Fu, what stupid .... mozhha also the channel "RAIN" invite me to watch. ))) .... it seems like I’ll laugh 750 times over this joke)))

              There is a lot of information on this subject, so I won’t be proving the obvious. There is no point. hi
    3. svp67
      svp67 1 May 2013 18: 51 New
      0
      These cars can be good in the sky of Korea ...
  2. Tian
    Tian April 30 2013 11: 15 New
    -10
    Proud of Japan! Striped guys will not give them an insult = (^ _ ^) =
    1. Lord of the Sith
      Lord of the Sith April 30 2013 11: 20 New
      +3
      one needs pride when the “striped” soldiers, as you put it, cease to rape local girls, their bases will close and leave the Japanese islands.
      1. Tian
        Tian April 30 2013 11: 22 New
        -3
        Well, striped to them the whole economy was rebuilt and they have been guarded for 60 years :)

        Do they know what standard of living? I've been to Tokyo twice. A couple of years ago.
        1. JonnyT
          JonnyT April 30 2013 11: 30 New
          11
          And I was in the military museum of Vladivostok. There is a photo there, where a resident of Japan walks around a pedestal on which lie the heads of the killed Russians. He holds one head with a "good-natured, friendly" smile ...... Continue to be proud of Japan, maybe you are lucky and they will make you their slave!
          1. Tian
            Tian April 30 2013 11: 31 New
            -7
            Cool. You then better in the Second World War museums then do not go. By the way, what do you drive yourself: Japanese or German? :R
            1. JonnyT
              JonnyT April 30 2013 11: 53 New
              +3
              Quote: Tian
              Cool.

              What can I say ... if you are pleased with the severed heads of compatriots, then further reasoning and discussion do not make sense. Such as you have to beat every day and all day before the onset of "insight".
              1. Tian
                Tian April 30 2013 11: 56 New
                -3
                So what ride, you did not answer? On the Lada? However, it is also impossible to use Zhiguli, it’s fiat, and Italy was fascist. This is bad luck. On the Niva can?
                1. JonnyT
                  JonnyT April 30 2013 12: 02 New
                  +2
                  I have several cars, there are Russian and German and Japanese. In Japan, there are also cars from Russia ... for example, UAZ goes there with a bang!
                  And what are you chasing ??? On the iPhone ????
                  1. Tian
                    Tian April 30 2013 12: 04 New
                    -1
                    Ahhhhh. Well clearly shorter. wink

                    Did they cut the heads of Russian soldiers? How dare you?

                    for example, Oise goes there with a bang!

                    There are no UAZs in Japan. Single only.

                    I'm on the right-hand drive. Mark2.
                    1. JonnyT
                      JonnyT April 30 2013 12: 13 New
                      +2
                      Ahhhhh. Well clearly shorter.

                      What do you understand?
                      Did they cut the heads of Russian soldiers? How dare you?

                      So not only soldiers were slaughtered! There were atrocities worse than the type of extermination of pregnant women! Watch the movie "The Man Behind the Sun".
                      Anti-human experiments is normal in your opinion ????

                      Quote: Tian
                      I'm on the right-hand drive. Mark2.

                      Well, what else do you have Japanese?
                2. Armata
                  Armata April 30 2013 12: 06 New
                  0
                  Quote: Tian
                  So what ride, you did not answer? On the Lada? However, it is also impossible to use Zhiguli, it’s fiat, and Italy was fascist. This is bad luck. On the Niva can?
                  Why are you so stuck in cars? Well tell me then (you were in Japan) which sweets are considered a delicacy, and whose juices do they prefer, 60% meat, dairy products, grain? What equipment do they have in machine-building plants (their own, then they have only 1,5 companies)? Who at Toyota is currently leading the design deportation? Whose metal are they buying now to rivet their cars? Whose tunneling machines do they work with?
                  1. Tian
                    Tian April 30 2013 12: 10 New
                    0
                    Mmmm, do you deny the achievements of Japanese engineering, technology and design? I am simply discouraged.
                    1. fzr1000
                      fzr1000 April 30 2013 12: 15 New
                      +1
                      Was there no color music in childhood?
                    2. Manager
                      Manager April 30 2013 12: 16 New
                      +5
                      Quote: Tian
                      Mmmm, do you deny the achievements of Japanese engineering, technology and design? I am simply discouraged.


                      So what's the use of that Christmas tree that you laid out? In our cities they are struggling with this. Anyway, Yapis are no longer people, but cyborgs have become. Marriages by agreement are absolutely everything, they do what Amer says to them!
                      And what a long way to go! With all their technologies, they still can’t really stop the leak of radiation from fokushima. In short, go to an OPU sales person. Nauseous from you!
                    3. Armata
                      Armata April 30 2013 12: 20 New
                      +1
                      Quote: Tian
                      Mmmm, do you deny the achievements of Japanese engineering, technology and design? I am simply discouraged.
                      Deny it. I work with this and I know how they really have everything there. And about the picture. Where are her achievements shown? The neon tube was patented in America, but it was invented by a Russian engineer. In Moscow, such a threshing floor is like dirt and glows no worse, gypsy damn it all.
                  2. fzr1000
                    fzr1000 April 30 2013 12: 22 New
                    +1
                    Indeed, the accident at the nuclear power plant is still incomprehensible. Why such a technically advanced country could not cope with the consequences for so long. Well, it’s clear that they don’t have many selfless people like us at Chernobyl. Well, there are all sorts of robots?

                    And about the equipment in factories, etc. .. can I write in more detail, is this a military secret?
                  3. leon-iv
                    leon-iv April 30 2013 12: 56 New
                    +1
                    Hi Zhen, I’m interested in enlightening me.
                    You wrote about machines, but CX is interesting to me.
            2. Alexander Romanov
              Alexander Romanov April 30 2013 12: 00 New
              +1
              Quote: Tian
              . By the way, what do you drive yourself: Japanese or German?

              I'm in Japanese, but here's what cool is in your comment
              1. fzr1000
                fzr1000 April 30 2013 12: 29 New
                +2
                What kind of cretins sometimes come out here? Reaping the benefits of school reform. Children do not learn history if it is not in profile (they are not going to take the exam on it), and here is the result.
                1. Armata
                  Armata April 30 2013 12: 38 New
                  0
                  Quote: fzr1000
                  What kind of cretins sometimes come out here? Reaping the benefits of school reform. Children do not learn history if it is not in profile (they are not going to take the exam on it), and here is the result.
                  Yes, he just reviewed the pacemons. fool With such confidence, talk about what oak is oak.
                  1. fzr1000
                    fzr1000 April 30 2013 12: 42 New
                    +1
                    And about the equipment at Yapovsky factories, etc. .. can I write in more detail, is this a military secret?
                    1. Armata
                      Armata April 30 2013 12: 51 New
                      +2
                      Quote: fzr1000
                      And about the equipment at Yapovsky factories, etc. .. can I write in more detail, is this a military secret?
                      No, not a secret. At the Mitsubishi shipyards, there is a press for forming UZTM metal, a milling machine Nizhny Novgorod. In Okuma's machine shops are the RSZ and Ivanovo machines. On EMC there are furnaces for the generation of crystals on radiation sensors in the power units of Priborostroitelny Zavod Sverdlovsk. I saw it with my own eyes. For their machines, 5 years ago, metal has been burning from VISA by the way, as well as for folks and Khundaev.
            3. skullcap
              skullcap April 30 2013 12: 47 New
              +1
              Quote: Tian
              By the way, what do you drive yourself on: Japanese or German? :R

              I, for example, have two cars. One of them is Suzuki Liana. Bought at the time, to personally assess the level of foreign cars.
              I have to say that I was disappointed: on every lying policeman he squeaks like the old ZIL-157. But after all, freight. Creak and shock absorbers, and when you move at an angle, then the door. The built-in receiver independently jumps from one station to another by its own choice. By the way, when you insert a disc, it also jumps to the radio.
              But most of all I was struck: when I passed the run-in, I decided to try how fast the maschina drives. In the technical documentation indicated its upper speed 180 km / h.
              So I decided to try. I found a suitable site outside the city and started overclocking. When 160 km in the cabin there was a strong smell of burning oil. Stopped, raised the hood: the exhaust manifold was covered with sores from drops of burnt oil. It is seen at this load from somewhere began to drive oil.
              And yet: on all machines on the 1 second gear at low revs, you release the gas pedal and the car continues to drive. When you let this one go, it stalls. I went to the first MOT in the service center, said this to the mechanic. He asked what my gearbox was and summed up: “It happens on mechanics, you have to get used to it”
              In general, maybe I was not lucky, but I came to the conclusion that the Japanese cars - guano. And the opinion of their perfection is one of the artfully propiar myths. Type new king dress. And just until the child was found, who would give the uninhibited truth that the king is naked. I gave her youngest daughter to go to the pool.
              And now I go to the VAZ-2105.
              Although there are fewer horses in it, but far more intakes. I think that we need to spend less on advertising and more often use our own head.
              1. Tolik.
                Tolik. 975 April 30 2013 13: 16 New
                -1
                As if on the site "Drom.ru" hit. Dear, you have gone far from the topic. Yes, Japanese industry has penetrated deeply into the consciousness of the mature population of our immense. And their cars, and I consider the most reliable and unpretentious (there were 6 cars). The point is to solve the transfer of winged whales, the range of which with further relocation to about. Hokaido covers the south of Sakhalin and the southern Kuril Islands, where the entire infrastructure of the skeletons is developed, by the way, basically remaining from the cute "Japs" in the 45th. Believe me, these turntables will not remain idle. And talking about some kind of accession is not only dangerous, but just plain stupid. There is no need for us to tear away waters with rich resources. But the insidious yapi knows no bounds. So, they almost didn’t drown the border guard father after midnight - they “didn’t notice”, even though the navigation lights were turned on, and the anchorage was in a predetermined place. Japs are not so simple and these movements are always fraught with consequences.
              2. fzr1000
                fzr1000 April 30 2013 13: 52 New
                0
                Suzuki is Japan's most unsuccessful car company. But their motorcycles are a fire.
        2. dmn2
          dmn2 April 30 2013 13: 02 New
          0
          and what is the level of radiation there ?!
    2. BARKAS
      BARKAS April 30 2013 11: 22 New
      +3
      Well, yes, and if they behave badly, they will again dump the nuclear landmine, for example, in Amers, Tokyo knows how.
      1. Tian
        Tian April 30 2013 11: 26 New
        -12
        Well, you, Russians, and Germans were burned, but no one will say in their right mind that you have hatred for them in the 21st century.
        1. BARKAS
          BARKAS April 30 2013 11: 33 New
          +1
          In vain you divide it into Japan and Germany, no one didn’t even attack, but the largest US military bases were there and burned German cities just Americans.
          1. Tian
            Tian April 30 2013 11: 37 New
            -5
            Well, actually it was time. Finland, too, was not even going to attack anyone, hmm. So why are you attached to the Japanese? They have not threatened anyone for 60 years.
        2. Armata
          Armata April 30 2013 11: 35 New
          15
          Quote: Tian
          Do they know what standard of living? I've been to Tokyo twice. A couple of years ago
          That is why the representative in Russia of one of the largest machine-building companies in Japan does not want to go home. "And what have I forgotten there? In Moscow, I have an apartment of 150 squares, and we don’t even have those, but if I had, I wouldn’t have such an apartment for the rest of my life make money. " I also go there often and myself saw their life. So do not drive.
          Quote: Tian
          Well, you, Russians, and Germans were burned,
          Probably hard to live dumb. Learn the story of a schoolboy.
          1. Tian
            Tian April 30 2013 11: 39 New
            -5
            Well, I know the story well. Germany was burned to ashes by the Allies and this is a fact. What is wrong?
            1. Armata
              Armata April 30 2013 11: 57 New
              +4
              Quote: Tian
              Well, I know the story well. Germany was burned to ashes by the Allies and this is a fact. What is wrong?
              Apparently bad. Most of Germany was destroyed during the siege, but not completely burned. It is on our land that they burned villages with the inhabitants. But on a bold statement on the standard of living in Japan, something shut up in one fell swoop.
              1. Tian
                Tian April 30 2013 12: 01 New
                -2
                Germany was burnt / destroyed, the same thing. Dresden has been wiped off the face of the earth, Berlin too.

                And the standard of living in Japan is very high. The highest in Asia, by the way.
                1. Armata
                  Armata April 30 2013 12: 15 New
                  0
                  Quote: Tian
                  And the standard of living in Japan is very high. The highest in Asia, by the way.
                  Well, yes, in comparison with Korea and China it may be, but this is bad luck. Japan is one of the five most expensive countries in the world with an average salary level; Tokyo is the most expensive of the cities in the world. The average Japanese salary is lower than ours (relative to the minimum consumer basket) by 27-32%. The main industries have long been moved outside of Japan, because they are simply becoming uncompetitive due to the costs of the RFP and taxes. And I know this from communicating with the Japanese themselves, and not from Internet tales.
        3. skullcap
          skullcap April 30 2013 11: 36 New
          +5
          Quote: Tian

          Tian


          Today, 11: 26

          ↑ ↓ New


          Well, you, Russians, and Germans burned

          You're lying and jerking in the most impudent way. The Russians, even in response, trashing the Nazi war machine, never became like the Germans or the Japanese, and did not destroy civilians, including they did not burn.
          By the way the question is: if you are not Russian - why are you hiding under the Russian flag?
          1. Tian
            Tian April 30 2013 11: 40 New
            -3
            I do not distort. Germany was destroyed to the ground, the whole industry after the war exported from there, all its current power began to appear only in 70-80-e, and before that it was devastated.
            1. skullcap
              skullcap April 30 2013 12: 16 New
              0
              Quote: Tian
              I do not distort. Germany was destroyed to the ground, the whole industry after the war exported from there, all its current power began to appear only in 70-80-e, and before that it was devastated.


              Or you distort or simply far from the school program on economic geography.
              Open this textbook and see what places in the economic development occupied and Germany and the GDR.
              Although the war that Nazi Germany had unleashed, it was naturally said not only on its victims, but also on the aggressor itself.
              But this is a manifestation of the highest degree of justice. Whoever has no right to talk about the damage suffered is the instigators of the world massacre - the Germans and the Japanese.
        4. fzr1000
          fzr1000 April 30 2013 12: 16 New
          +2
          You m ... k or d.u.r.a.k. ? We burned the Germans where? At war? Or for fun, like them us.
    3. Sasha
      Sasha April 30 2013 11: 41 New
      +4
      Proud of Japan!

      The Japanese do not remember their recent history. I recently watched one program there, they asked a young Japanese woman - what do you know about Hiroshima and Nagasaki? She said that these words made her feel something familiar, but she didn’t remember what.
      And you say respect ... They themselves do not respect their country.
      1. krokodil25
        krokodil25 April 30 2013 11: 55 New
        +5
        Quote: Sashok
        I recently watched one program there, they asked a young Japanese woman - what do you know about Hiroshima and Nagasaki? She said that these words made her feel something familiar, but she didn’t remember what.

        Not only do they not remember, but they also think that we dropped a nuclear bomb on them!
        1. kirieeleyson
          kirieeleyson April 30 2013 12: 38 New
          +5
          Quote: krokodil25
          They think that we dropped a nuclear bomb on them!

          By the way, there is such a fact. I can not imagine wondering who is like this young man who is proud of Japan. There are no heroes, the warrior’s path also, a bushido is buried along with the Emperor’s honor and dignity, after the Americans dropped nuclear bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Tell me, how can you enter into allied relations with the enemy, which destroyed all relatives, friends, and just compatriots? How can one live “under protection” for 70 years of those who use the entire population of this country for their own purposes, those who have staged a technological breakthrough in the country, forcing the population to work 12 hours a day to this day?
          It imposed slavish thinking on the population, and the leadership of large industrial groups are 60% American citizens. Until now, these little Japanese are suffering from the US occupation, which, under the guise of "protecting an ally," simply takes advantage of the country's order. What are the Kuril Islands? It would be nice if the Japanese were independent, there all the conditions for fishermen can be created together and good neighborly life will be established, but it turns out that we will give strategic access to the sea for the sake of mattresses. They ran away, Schazz. The Americans apparently did not understand yet that the world cannot be unipolar, they want an apparently large American strait instead of their country.
      2. DeerIvanovich
        DeerIvanovich April 30 2013 23: 59 New
        0
        investigation on the second channel about cheating with competitions such as miss world, etc.
    4. Manager
      Manager April 30 2013 12: 05 New
      +3
      Quote: Tian
      Proud of Japan! Striped guys will not give them an insult

      They just run out and dry them!
  3. selbrat
    selbrat April 30 2013 11: 18 New
    +4
    We would have built these units more. Maybe their marines will disappear slowly. laughing
  4. Stiletto
    Stiletto April 30 2013 11: 20 New
    +2
    “We haven’t copied such crap yet,” the Chinese thought at this point.
  5. Standard Oil
    Standard Oil April 30 2013 11: 26 New
    -3
    Well, seeing a pair of V-22 over Okinawa, Russia will definitely give the Japanese all the islands of the Kuril chain, and if the Americans add another couple of F-16 here, then all of Sakhalin.
    1. kirieeleyson
      kirieeleyson April 30 2013 12: 43 New
      +3
      Quote: Standard Oil
      Well, seeing a pair of V-22 over Okinawa, Russia will definitely give the Japanese all the islands of the Kuril chain, and if the Americans add another couple of F-16 here, then all of Sakhalin.

      Do not wait)
      1. Standard Oil
        Standard Oil April 30 2013 21: 33 New
        0
        Looks like humor no one understood fool
    2. Manager
      Manager April 30 2013 12: 48 New
      +4
      Quote: kirieeleyson
      Well, seeing a pair of V-22 over Okinawa, Russia will definitely give the Japanese all the islands of the Kuril chain, and if the Americans add another couple of F-16 here, then all of Sakhalin.


      Whoever comes to us with V22 will leave with OPA in v22! - Popular wisdom =)
  6. Check
    Check April 30 2013 11: 26 New
    +1
    “We confirm the deployment of the second squadron (convertiplane) MV-22 Osprey in Japan, which will happen this summer and which will increase our (military) capabilities in the region”
    the question is why increase military capabilities in the region ?? for what purpose?
  7. koksalek
    koksalek April 30 2013 11: 40 New
    +1
    Quote: Tian
    Well, you, Russians, and Germans were burned, but no one will say in their right mind that you have hatred for them in the 21st century.

    And who else?
    1. Tian
      Tian April 30 2013 11: 41 New
      -3
      I did not understand the question.
  8. Renat
    Renat April 30 2013 11: 57 New
    +2
    To remind the Japanese how the Amers in the 45th brought about the same "baby" and "fat man" in about the same way.
  9. Serov
    Serov April 30 2013 12: 02 New
    +2
    Japan is an interesting country and much can be learned from them, but they need to be given a tambourine so that they don’t hobble there.
  10. Basilevs
    Basilevs April 30 2013 12: 15 New
    +5
    Quote: Canep
    The Kuril Islands can only be handed over in exchange for Japan joining the Customs Union.

    For me, it’s not so bad to ever give up. "... where the Russian flag is raised once, it must remain forever ..."
    1. Renat
      Renat April 30 2013 12: 44 New
      +2
      Try to give the Kuril Islands and then the claims of many countries will begin. Koenigsberg, etc., etc. Not an inch of land to the enemy.
  11. Reserve buildbat
    Reserve buildbat April 30 2013 12: 20 New
    +3
    Tian, ​​learn the story. Unlike the Anglo-American forces, the Soviet troops did not commit atrocities either in Germany or in Europe in general. Germany "burned", as you put it, it was the Angles and Amer. Japan - amers. And now, by the way, propaganda is already under way in Japan that the Russian bombs were dropped on Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
    By the way, about the speed of the V-22 - as far as I remember, there 620km / h never smelled. With euphoria reported on the achievement of 555km / h
    1. Tolik.
      Tolik. 975 April 30 2013 13: 39 New
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      Quote: stock buildbat
      And now, by the way, propaganda is already underway in Japan that the Russians dropped nuclear bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

      yes, but not now, but since the 80s, lessons in Japanese schools have drawn an analogy between minke whales and Bolsheviks, and indeed (ask the Japanese themselves) about nuclear bombing it speaks in favor of the USSR. History is redone, no matter what you say. So dear Chan is a child of this alteration.
  12. Nymp
    Nymp April 30 2013 12: 21 New
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    Here, on the eve of Victory Day, NERUSI appear sparing fascist Germany that destroyed half of Europe, and most importantly a third of our population. It's a shame that our grandfathers (grandfathers literally mean 44 years old) shed blood for the sake of such ghouls !!! What would it chewing gum in front of a computer ranted about the cruelty of Russian! Ugh, disgusted even to enter into polemics.
    1. Armata
      Armata April 30 2013 12: 40 New
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      Quote: Nymp
      It's a shame that our grandfathers (grandfathers literally mean 44 to me) shed blood for the sake of such ghouls !!! What would it chewing gum in front of a computer ranted about the cruelty of Russian! Ugh, disgusted even to enter into polemics.
      Well, then who will teach them at all? So after all, and the remnants of the brain on the chewing gum will leave.
      1. Nymp
        Nymp April 30 2013 13: 01 New
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        Yes Eugene I read your comets I fully support, there’s nothing to insert.
  13. aszzz888
    aszzz888 April 30 2013 12: 49 New
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    Mericatos rod on quiet to their base equipment. Let the yapis at least bother us, be striped for all their public opinions. Yes, and undercover, such as their bases, from the North Koreans.
  14. Garik
    Garik April 30 2013 13: 13 New
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    Quote: Tian
    Well, let's start with the fact that Japan has not threatened anyone for 60 years, but is under the protection of the United States and has a purely defensive doctrine of warfare. Yes.

    And atrocities were absolutely for everyone. Germany was wiped off the face of the earth, including the Red Army.


    That you listen to the troll. He picks your brain and you fend off nervously. In the bath pi ... and that's it! These jerks have nothing sacred.
  15. Reserve buildbat
    Reserve buildbat April 30 2013 13: 13 New
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    Tian, ​​Japan is not under the protection of the United States, but is their colony. Whatever one may say, Japan does not have an independent policy; all decisions are made only with the permission of Washington. Even a pity the Japanese in this regard.
  16. Bashkaus
    Bashkaus April 30 2013 13: 15 New
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    Shell-C1 to the rescue
  17. nikolas 83
    nikolas 83 April 30 2013 13: 18 New
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    One thing surprises me how the Japanese agreed to provide their territory for US military bases? After all, the Americans dropped nuclear bombs on them. If I were a Japanese, I would damn the Americans. am
  18. Serov
    Serov April 30 2013 13: 27 New
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    Japan understands that if it goes against the amers, it will ensure the fate of Hiroshima and Nagasaki. But I have the impression that the amers devoured the Japanese spirit and bit into self-awareness of the Japanese people
    1. individual
      individual April 30 2013 15: 50 New
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      Japan's self-consciousness is shoved into the crotch of the interests of amers after Hiroshima and Nagasaki. It is in such a centaur that their policies exist. North The Koreans farted a little and their whole geopolitics stood on the ears.
  19. Vtel
    Vtel April 30 2013 13: 32 New
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    “We confirm the deployment of the second squadron (tiltrotor) MV-22 Osprey in Japan, which will happen this summer and which will increase our (military) capabilities in the region", - quotes ITAR-TASS the head of the US military.

    Most likely this region is North Korea, not Russia. And the samurai didn’t come for an excursion to the Kremlin, because of the insidiousness they are second after kosher. Yes, our liberals will sing sweetly, so that they do not interfere with a showdown with the Koreans.
  20. Rebus
    Rebus April 30 2013 13: 44 New
    +2
    Each such machine costs from 70 to 89 million dollars.

    To hell with them such expensive under-planes? request
    The cost of the Mi-26, depending on the modification, prices from 20 to 25 million are indicated, and the parameters are better ...
    Not every fighter costs so much ....
    1. Reserve buildbat
      Reserve buildbat April 30 2013 13: 49 New
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      Is not it clear? Uncle Sam said - buy. That bought. And Mi-26 is the weapon of the main enemy - Russia. Ay-yay-yay will be if they buy.
      1. Kajiya
        Kajiya April 30 2013 14: 43 New
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        And what is the meaning of convertiplanes in general? Why is it better than airplanes and helicopters?
  21. fzr1000
    fzr1000 April 30 2013 13: 48 New
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    Quote: Tian
    Well, you, Russians, and Germans were burned,



    Judging by this phrase, this .... ordinary provocative ... from neighboring countries or a former compatriot, and hardly any thread school student. It’s easier not to pay attention.
    1. Serov
      Serov April 30 2013 13: 54 New
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      I agree with you comrade)
  22. Egen
    Egen April 30 2013 14: 58 New
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    What are you all about the Kuril Islands, IMHO this is against North Korea. Just for what, really? Distracted from the topic :) The only thing for which IMHO enta gizmo is not badly suitable and where its cost can be paid off is special operations. What, the Americans are going to land for the capture of Korean missiles? :))) Or maybe to evacuate their own from South Korea? Or maybe it’s easier - to have time to evacuate the embassy in Japan, the benefit of the radius is enough to fly to the nearest aircraft carrier outside the range of tactical nuclear weapons :)
  23. Ragnarek
    Ragnarek April 30 2013 15: 42 New
    +1
    Quote: TUMAN
    Quote: Goodmen
    I wonder how these negotiations will end. Surrender of the Kuril Islands or early panic? Although recently in the political course the tendency of squandering "Kemsky volosts" is clearly visible ...

    Along the way, Putin is not the first time to give out Russian lands. He has experience.

    For example?
    1. TUMAN
      TUMAN 1 May 2013 01: 12 New
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      Quote: Ragnarek
      For example?

      Territorial concessions to China and Norway! Don't you know? We need to be more interested in the life of the country!
  24. kasper
    kasper April 30 2013 15: 59 New
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    S-400 should be hinted at the Kuril Islands ...
  25. individual
    individual April 30 2013 17: 47 New
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    Considering the node Japan, China, Korea, you need to know and remember that these countries historically hate each other. The task of Russia should use these contradictions on the principle of "divide and conquer." This is a win-win policy of Russian interests. Amer is mired in this confrontation. Russia must be free of obligations.
  26. Zomanus
    Zomanus 1 May 2013 08: 50 New
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    If we put japas on our islands, in half a year there the Amers will densely sit down with their Ajis and tomahawks. And then we have to urgently equip the entire coast with bases. And these are such cuts and kickbacks that no olympiad with summits has ever been dreamed of.