Troop pilot first made a test flight on the PAK FA

The plane took off from the airfield of the Flight Research Institute. MM Gromov in Zhukovsky near Moscow. Within two hours, the systems and equipment were tested according to the flight test program. The flight was successful, in full accordance with the flight task.

Currently, four aircraft participate in flight tests. Two more machines are involved in the ground-based experimental work - one is a complex ground stand, the other is undergoing static tests. In the second half of 2013, the fifth PAK FA will be connected to the flight test program, the assembly of which is being completed at the Komsomol branch of the Sukhoi company - KnAAZ them. Y.A. Gagarin.

Comments

[Bykov.]

In, bon voyage ... or rather, on a long flight !!!

[patline]

T-50 is the best

[TUMAN]

Quote: patline

T-50 is the best

Yeah, and immediately sell to China, in the wake of the su-35.

[Retx]

Oh, do not dramatize, they sell to the Chinese what we already have to replace with the best. Su 35, even with its powerful R&D, is unlikely to create a 100% copy.

[TUMAN]

Quote: RETX

Oh, do not dramatize, they sell to the Chinese what we already have to replace with the best. Su 35, even with its powerful R&D, is unlikely to create a 100% copy.

It's time to replace! Will it be replaced? And they don’t need 100% - I’m a copy, 95% is enough for them!

[Retx]

They just won’t copy the engines - this is their main trouble, but in the end, consider both heaven and earth. But the Chinese are so good in that they do not drain to the west those received from us.

[TUMAN]

Quote: RETX

But the Chinese are so good in that they do not drain to the west those received from us.

Ah, what a good Chinese! You yourself are not funny?

[Retx]

No, there is nothing to laugh at. Every nation, nation has certain characteristics on the basis of which relations are built. If a skillfully conduct politics and properly build relations with the Chinese, then we will get a friend. Imperial state policy, nothing fantastic.
NATO means quietly exists since 49 years, a bunch of countries, different peoples, and all this is a huge military power that can do whatever it wants, at any time and anywhere in the world. And as soon as it comes to Russia, then no, it is impossible, we are the strongest and most powerful, we will defeat everyone, only now (let's think realistically, I know the truth is offensive) recently a large number of all countries are bugs, we are threatened, diplomats can beat, arrest our citizens, set the conditions as equal, or even too arrogant, and we just shake our fist. During the existence of the Russian Federation, only Syria has at least some kind of demonstration of the actions of our Foreign Ministry in the political arena. And then mind you, who supports us? PRC. Why can't we be allies? Put things in order, help each other and eventually organize some kind of "Pan-Asian Coalition", and return order in the world political arena.
The only argument of the opponents is their billion, they will capture us. The 1991 massacre throughout the Caucasus, the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation - purely on paper, they forgot about the existence of the Air Force - the planes are chasing, the Navy is going for color, and the Strategic Missile Forces are being disarmed according to strategic offensive arms. In the Far East, the gate is open come in whoever wants, take what you like. But there are no millions of Chinese. Strange, huh? It was the most real moment, a chance given by God to run into infantry and squeeze out the whole of Eastern Siberia and Raseyushka, and then they would pour vodka to Boriske and issue the documents. And now this is some kind of obsessive national idea to wait for the Chinese raid. Where is the logic?

[TUMAN]

Quote: RETX

No, there is nothing to laugh at.

Your writings, contrary to your writings above. Decide finally.

[Retx]

Why? We sell them so that they do not lag behind. We don’t give back something - it’s too early. That's all.

[Maximus]

Copy but later, the Chinese learn quickly.

[zvereok]

And suddenly trouble will cease to be trouble. They, too, are not husking seeds on the filling, but are working on technology.

[Kolya]

95% of copies of the SU-35, 20 thousand pieces set up for example! Imagine what a force! And how much will we build the T-50?

[Nick]

Quote: Kohl

And how much will we build the T-50?

The namesake, as far as I know, Canada does not build 5th generation aircraft.

[Retx]

And what is not a million? Well, if they have propellers, then yes Creating a modern airplane is not about assembling an iPhone on a conveyor belt.

[evgenii67]

Hello everyone!

Quote: RETX

Oh, do not dramatize, they sell to the Chinese what we already have to replace with the best. Su 35, even with its powerful R&D, is unlikely to create a 100% copy.

Oh how! Tell me how much we pushed the Su-30MKK to them, and how many planes we have in the Su-30 line, just don’t need to say or write that Russia needs the Su-30.

[APASUS]

Quote: RETX

Su 35, even with its powerful R&D, is unlikely to create a 100% copy

What they can’t do is buy from us!
Take the same engines!

[hermes]

Damn, who are you ????? )))))) copied the Yak-130 from the Italians)) m-346 master

[Nick]

Quote: hermes

Damn, who are you ????? )))))) copied the Yak-130 from the Italians)) m-346 master

Yes, you are either off topic or just lying. The Yak-130 was developed by Yakovlev Design Bureau, at one of the stages, the Italians connected to the UBS project, and, first of all, by financing the project. So, the Yak-130 / m-346 master is a joint development, but design, technical and scientific support, primarily Russian.

[Geisenberg]

Quote: TUMAN

Quote: patline

T-50 is the best

Yeah, and immediately sell to China, in the wake of the su-35.

Che trifle then? Immediately give 314ndosam.

[Romn]

Test flights have already begun, it is very pleasing! The plane has not yet entered service, and I already have pride in it! Good luck with this project.

[Sirocco]

By the way, this aircraft received a positive assessment from the Australians last fall, which caused a storm of indignation from their allies.
According to Air Power Australia analyst Dr. Carlo Kopp, the first Russian stealth aircraft is less secretive than the American F-22, and is about the same size as the much smaller F-35. However, in some other aspects, the Sukhoi Design Bureau's T-50 outperforms American models.

This scandalous conclusion for Western experts is based on a scientific analysis of the effective scattering surface of radar waves (EPR), which ended last week. Carlo Kopp notes that the EPR of the T-50 is similar to that of the F-22 and F-35. However, this assessment is given with some reservations. So, the specialists of "Sukhoi", in order to bring the EPR of the T-50 to the level of the F-35, will have to make a number of changes to the design of their aircraft. First of all, it is necessary to reduce the radar signature of the engines and cover the aircraft with radio-absorbing material.


If these tasks can be solved, then the Russian stealth will fully meet all modern requirements for low visibility in frontal projection. In other words, the approach of a new stealth from Sukhoi will be very difficult to detect with most modern radars.

According to Kopp, the lag behind the Americans in terms of development can be offset by the impressive combat effectiveness of the T-50, because in some respects the Russian aircraft even surpasses the praised F-22.

First of all, the expert notes the high thrust-to-weight ratio and maneuverability provided by perfect aerodynamics, a variable thrust vector, and an integrated modern digital flight control system. The second significant advantage is the extremely large fuel supply of 25000 kg. Thus, the T-50 will continue to fly and fight for a long time after the tanks are empty on the F-22 and F-35.

In addition, the T-50 has an advantage over modern American radars and slightly less than the new Chinese, specially designed to detect American stealth. US Navy E-2 and F-22 and F-35 radars against T-50s will have average efficiency.


Source: "CNews.ru".

[Day 11]

It’s not worth it to be so naive to believe that this is nothing more than a course of Amer’s military firms to knock out uncle Sam’s money (scaring the Russians)

[patsantre]

Quote: Sirocco

The second significant advantage is the extremely large fuel supply of 25000 kg.

And what, this nonsense did not seem to anyone?)

[sergei]

that crazy, in TU22m3 almost 70000

[patsantre]

Think what you're talking about.

[Sirocco]

Quote: patsantre

And what, this nonsense did not seem to anyone?)

And the fact that this is an oopyatka didn’t it seem to anyone? We are the same here not brilliant spelling. Well, in general, the meaning, I think, is understandable.

[Backbone]

Nice to read such comments.

[VAF]

[quote = Sirocco] cover the aircraft with radar absorbing material. [/ quote /]

Probably all the same edges, not a plane?

After all, in order to "reduce" the RCS it is necessary to "cover" with a thickness corresponding to the wavelength of the irradiating radar range, now present the total surface area of ​​the aircraft and multiply by the RPM volume - for cm, dm and meter wavelengths

And where with such weight will fly, if at all your plane will fly?

[queen]

Quote: vaf

After all, in order to "reduce" the RCS it is necessary to "cover"

Good Sergey to you. So our honestly say inconspicuous, these same overseas are all not visible

[VAF]

Quote: Romn

Test flights have already begun

What does it mean have already begun?

Test flights have been going on for a long time, the next stages of LCI are going through!

[Jin]

What a handsome man! Complete antipode of the ugly American "competitors". Just heaven (For T-50) and earth (For Raptor and Lightning) ...

[Skuto]

This is the flawed thinking of many "patriots". Our plane, to my great regret, is still a "test" one, they ceased to be such by the end of 2000. Let's have two full-fledged squadrons, at least, without the "head cover" ... Then we will already say something.
And the news is good)))

[Jin]

Quote: Skuto

This is the flawed thinking of many "patriots". Our plane, to my great regret, is still a "test" plane, they ceased to be such by the end of 2000

You are more careful about inferiority, colleague. Do you think I don't know this? I'm actually talking about how "our" and "them" look ... Yes, they fly ... but how? Smut for smut and billions of expenses ... Without eliminating serious shortcomings, we have already spanked a whole bunch of Raptors and these Lightnings! Now what ??? Redoing is always worse than doing right away! It is because of this, including of course, that they "poor" now have to cut their budget! Oh well...

[755962]

Emphasis is placed on the fact that tests have already been carried out military pilot, not a test pilot. Personally, I understand ... Or did not understand ...!?

[Jin]

Quote: 755962

The emphasis is placed on the fact that the tests were conducted by a military pilot, not a test pilot. Personally, I understand ... Or did not understand ...!?

It seems like that colleague, judging by the title, but if by the text of the article, then it is generally not clear ... how it says: "the plane rose" He probably took it and got up ... Therefore, I personally appreciated the photo, well, then, that things are still going on.

[755962]

I support ... Many articles can simply mislead a common man in the street. And then bewildered exclamations about the "transparency" of the material. They would say that the tests are taking place in a regular mode ... without "jambs", etc., etc., and then on the soul calmer.

[Jin]

Quote: 755962

I support ... Many articles can simply mislead a common man in the street. And then bewildered exclamations about the "transparency" of the material. They would say that the tests are taking place in a regular mode ... without "jambs", etc., etc., and then on the soul calmer.

yeah, otherwise I read the title and let's be happy! And then such a bummer ... I also thought, well, it can't be what they would have experienced in the troops ... And on the subject of the article, it turns out that they gave a "try" to an "army pilot". blessing vaf explained everything.

[VAF]

Quote: 755962

Personally, I understand ... Or did not understand ...!?

Hi Zhenya! You just didn't understand! After all, these are "our" aviation media "!

Everything is like according to Zadornov - ".. how to write Iraq or Iran correctly"?

and the media that a military pilot, that a "military" pilot. that military test pilot .. all on the drum!

Well, what to do, what a Tsar, such "heralds"!

It is necessary to "blur" in Russia there are no wide-body aircraft?

"Ruined" IL-96 for the sake of "bobby" and now they are bred! Disgusting, honestly !!!

[Jin]

Quote: vaf

and the media that a military pilot, that a "military" belay pilot. that a military test pilot .. all on a drum!

Yeah, it’s very correctly noticed ... and not only the air media, in my opinion. And the authors sometimes soak, at least stand, at least fall. You’ll smirk in the text, but look at the photo and just the tantrum begins. The fig is asking all this?

[755962]

Zdorоin, Master! I already wrote above about the incompetence of the review. Let them carry out tests as much as necessary and of course by professionals in their difficult business. For us (that is, members of the forum) the main thing is that the work would "work." momentarily, it is difficult, but where without it. Bread begins to eat from the crust (proverb)

[queen]

Quote: vaf

It is necessary to "blur" in Russia there are no wide-body aircraft?

So he himself flew on what in the first term (sorry not in Kolyma)

[VAF]

Quote: 755962

The emphasis is placed on the fact that the tests were already carried out by the military pilot, and not by the test pilot.

The flight was performed by a senior test pilot SLI-1, a test pilot of the 1st class, Colonel Pestrikov Alexey Konstantinovich.

[755962]

Well, short and clear ...

[VAF]

Quote: 755962

Well, short and clear ...

Zhenya, you can and even shorter

[saturn.mmm]

Quote: 755962

The emphasis is placed on the fact that the tests were carried out already by the military pilot, and not by the test pilot

This is probably called "Military Operation Tests"

[VAF]

Quote: saturn.mmm

This is probably called "Military Operation Tests"

There is no such definition in the Flight Test Methodology!

[PLO]

Hello, hello.
could not clarify a couple of points.
1) Yesterday, in the topic about the Su-30MKM, you talked about the engines for the second stage PAKFA, they say that they are already being tested and everything is fine. but in connection with these, the question arose why AL-41F1 is not placed on the Su-35, but only a cropped version of the AL-41F1C?
2) and the second question about the su-34 and in general.
if the aircraft has developed a resource (as I understand it, it’s a glider, not engines), then what is the further fate of these aircraft? only for remelting and scrap or somehow go to the repair fund?

[fzr1000]

Su 34 adopted in 2011. So he has everything ahead.

[VAF]

Quote: olp

could not clarify a couple of points.

Hi Oleg! You know, the first question is clearly not "in terms of salary", although you can make a "guess", but .... not yet for "broad2 voicing, we'll see what happens next!
but the second is easy: initially, the assigned resource and the calendar period are set on the glider.
And further operation takes place within these limits (with the production of KVR'ov within the limits of overhaul resources and calendars).
But in the process of operation, static tests also go on. as a result of which a conclusion is being made. that the first set designated resources and deadlines can be extended, when performing certain tasks (strength bulletins).
And as the initial installation resources are developed at the next CWR, these bulletins are conducted and a decision is made to establish new assigned resources (or rather, the assigned resource within hours, plantings, years).
So, in principle, an airplane can live a very long life with a competent approach!
Well, as they do with us, you yourself see and know how much and what it costs and was "stored" and ..... then only for cutting!

[black_eagle]

On the Kachin Be-12s were prolonged, do we remember the results?

[Larus]

So if it flies in a straight line, near the airfield and to a certain height, and even by order it’s full ???? No words))) By the way, it would be so full, would it really be that they would not advertise it in the conflicts that they successfully create , because they prefer to bomb again on junk.

[Larus]

So if it flies in a straight line, near the airfield and to a certain height, and even by order it’s full ???? No words))) By the way, it would be so full, would it really be that they would not advertise it in the conflicts that they successfully create , because they prefer to bomb again on junk.

[Quiet]

What a handsome man!

Great heights and speeds !!!!

[Reasonable, 2,3]

There is no fly in the ointment.

[taseka]

Quote: Bulls.

In, bon voyage ... or rather, on a long flight !!!

To military pilots !!!!

[svp67]

Troop pilot first made a test flight on the PAK FA

- Hooray! I wish that soon many and many "military" pilots would fly this machine, multiplied by hundreds of copies ... Keep it up.

[Russian]

Eeeh, a beautiful infection!) As our designers said: a beautiful plane cannot fly badly))
I join the aforesaid, bring it the most important thing to mind, and supply as much as possible to the troops!

[Quiet]

Eeeh, a beautiful infection!) As our designers said: a beautiful plane cannot fly badly))

The more beautiful, the better the sky should plow ....

[Borat]

Quote: Quiet

The more beautiful, the better the sky should plow ....

"Plowing" about the plane ... Sounds strange ...

[VAF]

Quote: svp67

Hooray!

Hooray this is not from the series! It's just that the news "as always" in our "special airplane media" is served through one place!

Once again, read carefully - the military test pilot of the V.P. Chkalov GLITs, so you still have to live up to "standing"!

[Day 11]

How do you come, so lower people from heaven to earth! And here we decided that we had already defeated everyone!

[VAF]

Quote: Den 11

How do you come, so lower people from heaven to earth!

I celebrate the same forever, but you have to distinguish between the real and the desired!
And then only the LCI stages are not finished. Before the ICG have not yet reached, and already combatant pilots fly!

They did not write well that ... "for the first time, a cadet from the Borisoglebsk Center, who had just recently completed the first export flight on the Yak-50, lifted the T-130 into the air."

[cherkas.oe]

Quote: vaf

They did not write well that ... "for the first time, a cadet from the Borisoglebsk Center, who had just recently completed the first export flight on the Yak-50, lifted the T-130 into the air." wassat

Hello Sergey, glad to see you on a branch. Do not be angry with the people, they are not to blame for the fact that the information is provided incorrectly to put it mildly, but you want to rejoice at least for something in our life. And please continue to educate, although this is not always a grateful mission. respectfully

[VAF]

Quote: cherkas.oe

Do not be angry with the people

Oleg, I welcome you! I'm not "angry" in any way, I'm just explaining how things really are!
everyone wants me, including that, as soon as possible, but .... it's an airplane, and especially the 5th generation. with all the consequences, so there’s still no end in work!

not all "systems" have been fully tested and "brought together" into a single complex. and already combat pilots

[cherkas.oe]

Quote: vaf

flowing, so there work is still a lot of land!

not all "systems" have been fully tested and "brought together" into a single complex. and already combat pilots

Yes, while all the elements of navigation, tracking and guidance systems are brought together, a lot of kerosene will burn and money will be spent, and the main thing is not to rush during the development, so that later in the process of operation you could only improve and not remodel or buy system elements abroad Avionics for the fifth-generation domestic apparatus.

[VAF]

Quote: cherkas.oe

or buy elements of avionics systems abroad

"Hinting" at the Su-30SM and MiG-29SMT

Yes, in avionics we have "plugs", but not from the "backwardness of our engineers", but from .... okay, otherwise we will again look for the guilty one. Although he is well known!

On the T-50, everything is ours, even Elbrus is completely crammed with our "schemes". as well as Solo on the Su-35S!

Works almost "as it should". will bring, there will be a SONG!

[Ascetic]

Quote: vaf

They did not write well that ... "for the first time, a cadet of the Borisoglebsk Center, who had just recently completed the first export flight on the Yak-50, lifted the T-130 into the air"

... notes the special correspondent of Izvestia from Borisoglebsk, Mr. Bileberdinsky!
Greetings, Sergey!

[Artmark]

Everything will be fine! I am sure there will be a great plane!

[vadimus]

We’re already waiting for the birds to be armed .. Hurry!

[B_KypTke]

Therefore, ergonomics testing of the cockpit and still can life support systems on board.

[Bashkaus]

smiled slyly in response to your comment

[VAF]

Quote: B_KypTke

Therefore, pilot ergonomics testing

This is done at the preliminary design stage!

And military testers are connected at the stage of semi-natural and full-scale modeling!

And it's too late in the air ... to "ergonomize"

Quote: B_KypTke

can still life support systems on board.

and here ... dear Baskaus already said everything, you can’t do without a smile (to put it mildly)!

[APOCALIPTIC]

Quote: vaf

Quote: B_KypTke

Therefore, pilot ergonomics testing

This is done at the preliminary design stage!

And military testers are connected at the stage of semi-natural and full-scale modeling!

And it's too late in the air ... to "ergonomize"

Quote: B_KypTke

can still life support systems on board.

and here ... dear Baskaus already said everything, you can’t do without a smile (to put it mildly)!

And engines of the 5th generation or what?

[kostyan77708]

the plane is handsome! I would like to hear the impression of the flight directly from the pilot!

[Shabur]

And which design bureau is developing it?

[Ram chandra]

FAP FAP FAP!

[alexng]

You, is it about the plane or about the magazine?

[Phantom Revolution]

Let the main thing work out to the smallest detail, and then let it go into series. And not as f-22 riveted, and now correct.

[avt]

Plus, the news is not flashy, but very positive. We are waiting for him to shoot back at the training ground.

[Phantom Revolution]

It is a pity that the pluses do not give the author an article rating.

[cherkas.oe]

Quote: avt

We are waiting for him to shoot back at the training ground.

IT'S NOT SOON, WEAPONS ARE NOT READY YET, even the GDP is in the know, blabbed yesterday.

[VAF]

Quote: cherkas.oe

IT IS NOT SOON

The fact that not very soon is a fact, here haste is not needed at all!

Quote: cherkas.oe

WEAPONS STILL NOT READY

It is a little wrong here, because. the ASPs themselves are already ready and are being "tested" on the Su-35S, but the SUV system on the T-50 is yes, there is still a lot of "work" to do!

[cherkas.oe]

Quote: vaf

It is a little wrong here, because. the ASPs themselves are already ready and are being "tested" on the Su-35S, but the SUV system on the T-50 is yes, there is still a lot of "work" to do!

Thank you.

[Day 11]

Yes, it would be nice to hear feedback from an ordinary (although "normal" will be no lower than a polkan) military pilot! And what new will Andrey-VAF tell us?

[strannik595]

I think his name is Sergey

[Day 11]

The error went out

[VAF]

Quote: Den 11

And what new will Andrey-VAF tell us?

Already all the above said, the news, as always, "HAT"!

It is common practice in flight test work, when at the phases of LCI (development of avionics and airborne safety systems), test pilots of the GNIKI (current GLITs) named after V.P. Chkealov are included in the brigade.
So it was all my life on all types of planes and helicopters!

so that no "ordinary" combat pilot there and "does not smell even close"!

Yes, for the simple reason that military pilots have neither training, nor access to flights under flight-exploratory programs.

To do this, at least you need to undergo training and finish the SHLI MAP or the CPL in the GLIC, well, also fly to a certain level of training!

[leon-iv]

VAF
Good afternoon, you do not know the problem with composites on the garrot solved? Or luminum was put there temporarily.

[VAF]

Quote: leon-iv

Have you solved the problem with composites on the garrot?

They decided, but not on the garrot, but on the center section

Quote: leon-iv

Or luminum was put there temporarily.

on the 3rd and 4th "temporary" there was practically "nothing"! 5 and 6 will be the same, but 7 and further will go already "with all the innovations", but ... it's too early to talk about that. and ... no need

But if everything works out. and this has all the prerequisites, it will be SUPER !!!

Then it’s already possible to really и

[leon-iv]

Then it’s already possible to really

Oga years so years after 5 when the first regiment set.
Threat you do not know tav like very serious requirements for non-gangar storage.

[VAF]

Quote: leon-iv

You do not know tav like very serious requirements for non-hangar storage.

Given the current rate of production and supply of H030 and 101 .... the first regiment of years is so through ...... a lot, unfortunately!

This topic is very "slippery", because. there are still no ground KSA and KSI, MTO facilities, even .. stepladders, not to mention preparation for the operation of ITS, and you are talking about .. storage.

As always ... "on the street" !!

[leon-iv]

Given the current rate of production and supply of H030 and 101 .... the first regiment of years is so through ...... a lot, unfortunately!

Grummi said that from the 14th year there will be a new snap pace raised. Now people are preparing.

[VAF]

Quote: leon-iv

from the 14th year there will be a new snap pace up. Now people are preparing.

God grant! I’ll only be glad, otherwise I’ll be kind of 2 per year and there is a mistake. Naturally H036!

[Day 11]

Sergey, I would like to ask you everything. Do you think that the DPRK Air Force will be able to resist at least Yu.Korea. I just read somewhere that their Migi-29s are undergoing a real modernization (the fat man spares no money for this). then I had a video with their Migami (I can’t find it, I can find it, I’ll lay it out) -19, -21 ----- they look pretty decent (it seems like we went to modernization. The question is: After the modernization they will look worthy in a real battle ? Video in the topic http://video.yandex.ru/users/krion109/view/519/user-tag/%D0%BA%D0%BD%D0%B4%D1%80
/

[Bort radist]

Good luck, I wonder if they called our bird behind the "hillock"?
PS On May 9, a passage over Red Square of 68 sides is planned. In a single formation of the Air Force planes fly by:

Su-24,
Su-25,
Su-27,
Su-34,
MiG-29
MiG-31,

An-22,
An-124,
IL-76,
IL-78,
A-50,



Tu-22M3,
Tu-95
Tu-160

As well as helicopters:

Mi-8,
Mi-26,


Mi-28,
Ka-52.

[Day 11]

No doubt they have already called me. Even I know with what letter the name will begin --- F

[fzr1000]

Full polar fox

[Bashkaus]

If officially, then the Latin name is Alopex lagopus
And in Russian, just a scribe))

[jjj]

Russians have all the arctic fox. The hat is a polar fox, the fur coat is a polar fox. I got a tram - a fox. So the arctic fox will also want to bomb

[zvereok]

full piz # ez

[Phantom Revolution]

no this is export indian. Amer has not yet announced.
But for our carcasses, bear and blackjack are a great name.)

[Bort radist]

Quote: Phantom Revolution

But for our carcasses, bear and blackjack are a great name.

Tu-16 (according to NATO codification: Badger - “Badger”,) it seems they haven’t come up with anything yet, the fantasy has refused.

[Phantom Revolution]

I talked about the two of the above, I did not mention the badger.

[Bort radist]

Quote: Phantom Revolution

I talked about the two of the above, I did not mention the badger.

Yes, no complaints, just TU-95 (bear) is heard and on the go, but they began to forget about that -16, it was a good bomber. Myasishchev M-4 codification of NATO - Bison.

[Thunderbolt]

Quote: Bort Radist

that -16

Tasks performed, but there was an accident.

[Soldier]

Well, that's right. F - ,, fighter ,, fighter, B - ,, bomber ,, bomber, C - ,, cargo ,, (cargo) tra

Nsportnik, R - ,, riconeis ,, reconnaissance, H - ,, helicopter, helicopter and a name is coined for the type designation LA.

[UFO]

+++, oh, the An-225, Yak-130, Yak-141 and Ansat are missing!

[radio operator]

I wonder how the appearance of a production aircraft will change in comparison with the prototype?
So same as the T-10 from SU-27 or even more radical.
I don’t know how to glider, but we have already been given TK to upgrade the station on the T-50, which is already ready to go into series.

[Day 11]

Do not decipher yourself - the enemy does not sleep!

[silver_roman]

Well, in theory, only the nozzles of the engines will change. like it was said that fairings would be delivered as on a raptor to increase the reflectance (forgotten what is called).
Well, in the longer term, anything can be)). Maybe the cab lantern will be made whole-glass.

[Gemar]

Quote: silver_roman

coefficient increase

Reductions?

Quote: silver_roman

the lantern of the cabin will be made whole-glass.

Unbinding?

Quote: silver_roman

engine nozzles.

I doubt that the nozzles will change ... Probably you mean that the engines will paint?

[silver_roman]

No, an account of the increase is all true. I just forgot the name of that particular coefficient. And if you follow the logic of the words I wrote, then it is the coefficient of the reflected ability, i.e. the higher the coefficient, the greater the reflectivity .
It turned out a little crooked, because according to GOST, this coefficient is the inverse of that. what I noted)). the main thing is that you understand the essence!
The lantern is pure speculation, although it is impractical, because a little expensive.
At the expense of nozzles: it was infa that they will modify iron, and not just paint, but this is not verified. just rumors.

[Gemar]

Quote: silver_roman

At the expense of nozzles: they will finalize the iron

Something like a casing? The WAF (or anyone else) also said something like that. However, it seems to me that without such a PAK FA would not have been experienced. If it doesn’t appear on the 5th instance, then it’s just simply painted.

Quote: silver_roman

the main thing is that you understand the essence!

I understood the point, but as a dog, I know everything, but I can’t say ...

Quote: silver_roman

Lantern - this is pure speculation, although it is impractical

Yes, it seems not speculation ... They wrote (just don’t ask those where, I don’t remember!) That they came up with a special spraying and are planning to make a coverless lantern on the serial one that will withstand> Mach 2.

[yanus]

Right by the rules they do everything (test). Even the military pilots pulled up.

[fzr1000]

Help people, what are the two twin-engine high-wing twin-engine planes in the photo? Thought An 14, but not he.

[Lopatov]

It looks like it's a su-80
http://www.sukhoi.org/planes/civil/su-80/

[fzr1000]

Looks like. Thank.

[jjj]

Yes, such would instead of the L-410 UVP in small aircraft

[cyberspace]

It looks like the M-55 Geophysics, but it has 2 turbofan engines, maybe what is the option with a theater / tvd?

[igor36]

M-55 jet

[fzr1000]

They stood on M 55 turbofan engines.

[fzr1000]

Who slammed a minus? Two double-circuit turbojet engines on this plane (M 55) or turbojet engine (I was taught this at the Moscow Aviation Institute).

[Canep]

People are used to DTRD. And AK-47 instead of just AK.

[fzr1000]

One of my favorites

[valeriymotors]

The most beautiful military aircraft in the world !!!

[Nitup]

But, except that the Tu-160 can compete with him

[Thunderbolt]

Quote: Nitup

except that the Tu-160 can compete with him

Let them collaborate better)))

[Vtel]

By screws! You have a claim to us - we are flying to you! Higher and higher and ...

[individual]

My question is: development of PAK-FA Russian, or research and development of the USSR?

[Day 11]

With such a flag, such questions?

[Lopatov]

Flag means nothing

[Gemar]

Quote: individ

PAK-FA Russian, or research and development of the USSR?

Research began under Tsarist Russia.

[Bashkaus]

Answer: T50 RUSSIAN development, fatal for the USA.
I also have a counter question for you:
And what about the vertical take-off technologies in the F35?
And you know, evil tongues say that it is also compromised from Soviet developments in Yak 141

PS I suspect that the psyche of a simple American can not stand the information that their hero astronauts fly into space on (funny to say) spaceships developed really in the USSR and in Russian spacesuits.

[OTAKE]

Quote: Bashkaus

And you know, evil tongues say that it is also compromised from Soviet developments in Yak 141

Americans do not deny the fact of cooperation with Yakovlev Design Bureau in the 90s, they directly opened the curtain of secrets ...

And what about the vertical take-off technologies in the F35?

Everything is fine, flies in, sits down, shoots, and what is wrong?

[Bashkaus]

Everything is fine, flies in, sits down, shoots, and what is wrong?
Thank you for your question.
And not so in this whole thing, the fact that the Americans, according to your words, cooperate and take (bribing) Russian technology is not shameful, but quite normal.
But for some reason, it must be shameful and shameful for us to accept experience from our fathers.
Something somehow sorry for the expression crap or something turns out. Don't you think so?

[OTAKE]

And not so in this whole thing, the fact that the Americans, according to your words, cooperate and take (bribing) Russian technology is not shameful, but quite normal.

So if they are selling, then why refuse then? Especially the price, good, only half a milon
"In 1997, the OKB entered the Air Force command with the Yak-201 fighter project, which is a radical modernization of the Yak-43 project. The aircraft looked very much like the American analogue of the JSF F-35. The project was rejected by the command in light of the fact that the Air Force did not need a light Since 2003, the Yakovlev Design Bureau, in conjunction with the AHK Sukhoi, won the tender for the development of the fifth generation fighter PAK FA and actually stopped work in this direction. As reported in the press, in the early 90s, the documentation for the RD-79- The B300 and the Yak-41 itself were sold to an American company for ... 500 thousand dollars. "

But for some reason, it must be shameful and shameful for us to accept experience from our fathers.

In what place was it said that it was shameful? our industry is not able to produce this. As she was NOT able to produce something advanced and in Soviet times.
As you can see, the plane flies quite normally, shoots.

[Nitup]

I absolutely disagree. At least, military and space technology was and is one of the best, and in some forms the best in the world.

[Nitup]

I absolutely disagree. At least, military and space technology was and is one of the best, and in some forms the best in the world.

[Nitup]

In what place was it said that it was shameful? our industry is not able to produce this. As she was NOT able to produce something advanced and in Soviet times.
I absolutely disagree. At least the military and space technology of the USSR and Russia was and is one of the best, and in some forms the best in the world.

[Botanologist]

On April 3, around 4.30 day, an F-22 stealth fighter from an aircraft of this type deployed at the Kaden Air Force Base (Japan) made an emergency landing on the airfield due to the aggravation of the situation on the Korean Peninsula, the Japanese website ryukyushimpo.jp reported 4 on April .

After landing, there was a fuel leak (fuel spilled 10 meters from the aircraft), more than 10 US troops approached the scene.

According to an eyewitness, when the plane landed, white smoke flowed from the back of the car. By 6.00 in the evening the plane was towed to the hangar. The causes of the incident that day were not identified.

[individual]

PAK-FA and T-50 - a parallel project or fairly independent tasks?

[Day 11]

Why such questions (with such a flag) --- we will not say !!!

[slvevg]

Well done! He laughed heartily! But on the site there is a representative from the special department,

[Gemar]

Quote: individ

PAK-FA and T-50 - a parallel project or fairly independent tasks?

"Is there life on Mars, is there life on Mars ... Science does not know this!"

[USNik]

Well, if you know that the PAK-FA is a promising aviation complex of front-line aviation, and the T-50 is a light tank from one little-known game, then we can say that these are "independent tasks".

[afire]

Yes ordinary perpendicular project

[Drejk]

Answer No. 1: yes
Answer No. 2: with such questions, does it make sense to read the forum ?????
Answer No. 3: what a goat’s flag on our site ???
The main answer: what do you think? Answer make people laugh)))

[OTAKE]

Quote: individ

PAK-FA and T-50 - a parallel project or fairly independent tasks?

I will reveal the greatest secret, this is the same plane. Just different designations. You better sit through the anonymizer, under the flag of the USSR, and then the people are very impressionable, everywhere there are masons, the State Department and seems to have trouble.)

[Thunderbolt]

And you, Agent Otake, in what box are you in? ?

[OTAKE]

Quote: Thunderbolt

And you, Agent Otake, in what box are you in? ?

I won’t be scared, otherwise they will look at me askance. :)

[ed1968]

successful flight t 50 handsome I hope everything goes smoothly and will be adopted on time and put into service

[Wedmak]

Already the army began to pull up. Means preparation of combatant pilots is going on. Those. can we expect that 5 and 6 will already go to military tests or what ???

[VAF]

Quote: Wedmak

Already the army began to pull up

Denis, hello! No, this is a mistake, I painted everything above! So forget about the "system" for now!

Quote: Wedmak

Those. can we expect that the 5th and 6th will already go to military tests or what ???

First you need to wait for 5 and 6 ki. This time! And how do you want without GOSOV immediately military? And also on prototypes?

Unfortunately, miracles do not happen!

[Wedmak]

Greetings to Sergey. Well, when you explained, it became clearer. But still, at least some news from the project. And then something was silent for a long time ..

[individual]

That is how we live. One step from patriot to spy. (Question of curiosity).

[afire]

one might think you threw the maz here on the drain of information and everything was led here)))
there is no information that could be useful for America, it’s better to turn to GDP, he will tell you where to look))

[cherkas.oe]

Quote: individ

That is how we live. One step from patriot to spy. (Question of curiosity).

And you, roll your curiosity into a tube and .... put it in you and it won’t bother you and we should take less.

[Naval]

The main thing is that they would not be released in a single quantity and delivered to the troops. Somehow you sleep better when you know that such handsome men are on guard.

[krpmlws]

Why does PAK-FA have a snub nose, like that of Tu-22M3? That is, it is not symmetrical in the section. It would be more beautiful to make it symmetrical.

[Wedmak]

Aerodynamics is a tricky thing. Here "prettier" does not mean "useful". So it should be. Symmetry is not always observed.

[UFO]

He has a flux, do not worry.

[Chamber No. 6]

Quote: krpmlws

It would be more beautiful to make symmetrical

Is this a spring aggravation? Or - banal infantilism?

[krez-74]

Always with reverence for the fighters, and for the people who fly and construct them!

[True]

It seems to me alone that the PAK-FA glider is a SU-27 file processed?

[Wedmak]

YES. I advise you to go to the optometrist and pick up good glasses.

[Day 11]

Probably only to you alone

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: True

It seems to me alone

If this is a question, then I answer, Yes to one Buy glasses

[mogus]

yes, to one.

[Ascetic]

Quote: True

It seems to me alone that the PAK-FA glider is a SU-27 file processed?

No, it's just a modernized An-2 which was also created as multi-purpose short take-off and landing aircraft technology which the Americans stole and create on its basis a similar fifth-generation aircraft F-35. Our version of modernization is distinguished by better quality characteristics of the airframe converted with the help of the "grinder" and the rasp of the An-2 hull

[Thunderbolt]

In turn, the An-2 is an improved aircraft of the Russian inventor Mozhaisky --- "sharpened", as comrade rightly thinks. True to modern requirements)

[amber-50]

Whoever says anything, but our design school was and will be the best in the world and to hell when amers and anyone else can do something better. But I think this is not our most modern development.

[Maximus]

We’ll wait and see that nothing in the World lasts forever, including our design school, unfortunately there are few new young specialists. All developments on the inertia of the Soviet school, a good reserve in science were made in the Union, the main thing is to maintain succession.

[Bashkaus]

Hey, well, do not offend our star-striped friends like that, watch how they get excited, how many minuses they put to you.
Yes, our school is experiencing difficulties after the 90s, but young people still go, albeit few, but it still absorbs the experience of older generations, from father to son, like a sponge.
We will break through, not out of takha trouble got out, raptors will still swallow dust

[Chamber No. 6]

Quote: Bashkaus

Break through

With such "tyrnet-fighters" who have cut off from military service - no doubt about it! HOORAY!!!

[Opera]

I remember how more recently "our" press was frolicking - models, dummies ...
Good news! Well done! Good luck!

[Sinbad]

Great news! Well done! Now bring to the series, besides still upgrading. And more - more!

[Thunderbolt]

Probably, during test flights on the T-50, our ground-based radars are working. "Considering" the aircraft in many ranges and developing tactics for use.

[VAF]

Quote: Thunderbolt

Probably, during test flights on the T-50, our ground-based radars are working.

This stage in practice is yet to come and will not be held at the LII, but at ...

And so, for a long time already "examined" from all sides and angles on "imitators".

[Thunderbolt]

Got it, Sergey ! When the whole system "buzzes"

[VAF]

Quote: Thunderbolt

When the whole system "hums"

Fully 100% equipped and combat ready (I really hope so) they are planning from the 7th, so this will be almost a series!

[saturn.mmm]

Sergey would like to ask you to comment on the photo, or rather what is in the background. (Photo fresh from 26.04.2013/XNUMX/XNUMX)

[Day 11]

And what is there to comment on, although I’m not as advanced as Sergey, but in my opinion everything is clear-transport the Shuttle to the scrap (or maybe to some museum)

[zennon]

To the museum. Not long ago there was a yinfa that the last "Shuttle" was being dragged somewhere to California.

[Volkhov]

The shuttle is white without soot with new elements of a dark color, similar to portholes - either a layout or a new model.
Shuttle 2 starts - maybe they’re not writing about everything?

[zennon]

The famous American space shuttle was delivered to Washington on the fuselage of a specially equipped Boeing. Discovery traveled to space 39 times, and spent a total of exactly one year there. But now the place of the veteran’s car is not in orbit, but in the National Museum of Aviation and Cosmonautics. There the shuttle will be put on public display.

Discovery escorted with honors: from Cape Canaveral to Washington, a spaceship towed in the sky a special Boeing-747 - the same one that was used to deliver the shuttle to the cosmodrome in August 1984.

[TSOOBER]

Sergey good evening! The article is "no", the comments are super! If you collect everything that you unsubscribed about, you get a WONDERFUL article! (when will you pamper us with your own opus?) If you would like to ask a question: I saw a video on the net how the T-50 launches rockets — how much is not computer animation? were there such launches? and at what stages do such tests pass?

[VAF]

Quote: TSOOBER

I saw a video in the net how the T-50 launches rockets - how much is not computer animation

Hello, Igor! I answer:

1. This is a "cartoon".

2. There were no launches or reset layouts (not yet time), but very soon.

3. Sorry buddy, but this is a question, alas .. I can’t One thing I’ll say, practically everything is on schedule and at this stage all the problems are almost at the stage of resolution!

[TSOOBER]

Thank you! everything is clear and to the point

[Day 11]

Serega (excuse me for pan-friday), all the same, answer to my post above (about the DPRK). I was there, I saw, I wasn’t allowed close. I will be very grateful. RESPECT. KIM CHEN IN

[coleg-10]

I want to get up at the sight of the T-50. With respect and gratitude !!!

[SIBIR38RUS]

PANCAKE!!! Ascetic laughed about An-2 :) :) :) :) :) :) :) Until now, he’ll break through on rzhach :) :) :)

[Ruslan Bear]

I can’t wait for the parade on Red Square

[darksoul]

From aesthetic point of view, the T-100 is 50% more beautiful, more elegant than the f-22, f35 ... it remains to wish our designers that the T-50 was not only a beautiful machine, but also bypassed Western analogues in terms of performance characteristics

[ed65b]

It would be interesting to know the opinion of the pilot, namely the ordinary and not the tester. And the plane is really very beautiful and powerful. Air pit bull. Chinese so-so does not impress, some kind of cotton.

[redwar6]

Well, thank God! That's good.

[dima-fesko]

I understand that launching into mass production is not a joke, well, something is really very long.

[sashka]

Quote: dima-fesko

I understand that launching into mass production is not a joke, well, something is really very long.

Any First aircraft, especially the sample, is worth its weight in gold .. How much it weighs, so much it costs .. Like this. This is not a cheap business. Therefore, when someone decides, he will think a hundred times and weigh his possibilities. And again, this is precisely why there are not so many "willing". It remains to be content with scraps from the master's table .. Thank God It does not concern us. What we want is what we do. The rest are asking ..

[zennon]

The news is great, but the worm is sharpening ... In addition to purely technical issues, there are purely economic issues. How much will this handsome man cost? Departure cost on it? And from here, how many of them can we afford? Our country is not small, not Sweden. Question: how to cover up a huge country with first-class equipment, and not go through the world of Christ for the sake of? When answering, keep in mind that we didn’t impoverish not only with technical nuggets, but this is really so, but also with stools and basil ones too ...

[Day 11]

It seems to me that you only need to equip a couple of regiments with this equipment. And close the borders with equipment like S-400, or maybe even S-500? (Still, it’s purely economically cheaper).

[waisson]

where do you get this technique gadadins a good defense industry promises one thing and practice turns out a different order you need to put in it and not some privileges like some minds suggest

[sashka]

Quote: Den 11

It seems to me that you only need to equip a couple of regiments with this equipment. And close the borders with equipment like S-400, or maybe even S-500? (Still, it’s purely economically cheaper).

Well, maybe it leaves two regiments of the Air Force and Air Defense? And the rest, in Serdyukovsky?. What kind of heresy is this? Have you seen the WAR? What the hell is the economy? On the defense of the Country, saving is categorically contraindicated .. Whoever does not understand, is still disentangling.

[Day 11]

Sashok, look at what century we live in! I think you and I have already discussed it? Who is the main enemy now? - are there some Wahhabis, but the main thing here is? - is a really strong special forces!

[sashka]

But the GRU should deal with the Wakhabites, even in the "embryo". But for some reason it was disbanded. Strange, isn't it?

[Day 11]

Shurik, you’re wrong, the GRU should have other tasks. And professional special forces should be engaged in wahs.

[sashka]

Quote: Den 11

Shurik, you’re wrong, the GRU should have other tasks. And professional special forces should be engaged in wahs.

It is necessary to "deal" with this rabble not on your territory, but on the way. Then only a headache and losses

[sashka]

Quote: Den 11

Sashok, look at what century we live in! I think you and I have already discussed it? Who is the main enemy now? - are there some Wahhabis, but the main thing here is? - is a really strong special forces!

In war, special forces are partisans .. (No offense is said). After all, it is better to "soak in the toilet" from afar and without losses. Is it logical? Well, Spetsnaz cannot replace ALL. Each type and branch of troops has its own tasks and methods. And let there be an opportunity for a quick response. But during a massive attack, unfortunately, the Special Forces will not help. To each his own ...

[Day 11]

Yes, you (can you?) Sanya is very mistaken. Now we need a strong, well-trained special forces. Sambiki is good, of course, also needed, but after all, it was purely an economic component!

[sashka]

Quote: Den 11

Yes you (can you?) Sanya

You can, if you are over fifty))) And I'm not Sanya and Sanya.))) Better Sasha. For that matter ..

[Day 11]

I apologize if I offended. I'm 40. We will have no questions

[Day 11]

I agree with you in many respects, but the 5th generation KILLER also has nothing to do there (his tasks are somewhat different).

[sashka]

Quote: Den 11

I agree with you in many respects, but the 5th generation KILLER also has nothing to do there (his tasks are somewhat different).

So I'm talking about the same .. T-50 and Wahhabis. What kind of connection can there be?

[navy33]

very good news. thanks a lot for clarification .

[zevaka84]

PAK FA all sorts of need, PAK FA different are important.

[sashka]

Quote: Den 11

I apologize if I offended. I'm 40. We will have no questions

In no case. I like it when you .. But I'm not Sanya. Agree.

[Day 11]

why can’t I find the letter E on the keyboard (with dots)? These smelly gadgets ... (for a normal computer my daughter doesn’t sit-occupied). My name is Denis. I can talk with you (you) about the Second World War (very I love this topic) .You can in PM

[sashka]

Quote: Den 11

why I can not find the letter E on the clave (with dots)

Under the "Esc" key. True, it gives an error when typing .. After all, the site, after all, is from Germany .. Unfortunately, I have to work tomorrow. At 5 in the morning I get up .. It was nice to chat

[sashka]

Here you look at our plane and think what beauty .. Look at not ours, and think that you wanted to say this? . No SCHOOL. USE makes itself felt. And you won’t buy it for any billions.

[Day 11]

You shouldn’t be so. They have beautiful planes too. How do you like the B-2 Spirit? I think it’s very beautiful. Take a look on the Internet and check it out (how does it fly the second question)

[sashka]

Quote: Den 11

You shouldn’t be so. They have beautiful airplanes. How do you like the B-2 Spirit?

Good means "in demand" in this case .. How did it end? Desert and parking. Poste restante. But that's how interesting. If only Chubais managed to transfer us to "nano-format". then we would not have seen them .. failed. What to do?. The eternal Russian question? So many times "wanted", but it turned out as always. (by the way) is attributed to Chernomyrdin. But we were told at school ... and I was over 50 .. STRANGE ..

[Alexstalker]

Best! If the Women in the Ministry Do Not Slow down ...

[Day 11]

I think Shoigu dispersed all the "swans" to e-ben --- hair dryer!

[aszzz888]

As the classic used to say, "After all, they can do it whenever they want!"
So that the number of takeoffs equals landings!
Fly and fly everyone!
Pure SKY!

[Lunew]

A bit of humor. Continued about China.

[Homeless]

Why there is no information about the comments of the military pilot, at least about the general impressions of the flight on the T-50. The lack of comments is alarming.

[sashka]

Why not give the project a name? The most beautiful name for a destroyer of US and Eurofighters .. I think the Airplane MUST have a NAME .. HOW DO YOU THINK? PAK FA or T-50 does not "sound"? Maybe something more realistic, more specific and more correct? But from Botany, Feathered, etc. Do not Choose .. The fact is that we have problems with the war. But for such a thing, you can "strain"
In short, you need a NAME for our aircraft .. Let's dare ..
let's have a competition for the "name" for the t-50 ...

[sashka]

We are Russians .. Soft and beautiful, I don’t want the most .. So that there are no illusions .. This I continue about the name PAK-FA .. SOMETHING IS OUR BEAUTIFUL. But something on the spot ... Administrators, let's try or "muddy"? Maybe not "Buratino" from the General Staff, but not Pope Carlo either ..