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"A terrible spittle in their direction"

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"A terrible spittle in their direction"

China’s Chairman Xi Jinping, as the VIEW VIEW reported on Wednesday, ordered senior officers of the armed forces to undergo a two-week “internship” in military units.


“And the most important thing is an attempt to show that their place is within the framework of the general structure of party discipline.”

The directive requires commanders during the internship "to live, eat and serve" alongside ordinary soldiers and junior officers. The order concerns officers with the rank of senior lieutenant colonel. According to experts, the goal of this initiative is to strengthen the morale and closer ties between the command and rank and file structure of the People’s Liberation Army of China.
Xi's idea is not original - in 1958, a similar order was issued by his predecessor Mao Zedong. He said that senior officials each year must serve as privates for a month.

According to experts, C, appointed to the post of Chairman of the People's Republic of China only in March, intends to firmly take over the management of both the civilian state apparatus and the military. Evidence of this is the new directive.

And the Chinese Ministry of Defense issued an order to the commanding staff not to accept presents from now on, to refuse invitations to banquets and not to interfere in civil matters in the regions where their parts are located. Analysts consider such measures as part of a campaign to combat corruption and increase the moral level of leading cadres.

Alexey Maslov, head of the department of oriental studies at the National Research University Higher School of Economics, spoke in an interview with the VIEW newspaper on whether C could achieve loyalty of the generals by such unusual methods.

VIEW: Alexey Alexandrovich, Xi Jinping ordered the generals and senior officers to serve as ordinary soldiers for two weeks. Is this an attempt of the new leader to strengthen the authority in the army?

Alexey Maslov: Everything is much more complicated here. The fact is that one of the main tasks of C is the total fight against corruption and corruption in society. Society, like the army, has grown rich. And morale dropped. A large group of Chinese top commanders, in fact, turned into quite wealthy people. They have good salaries, there are collateral earnings.

And the main task, which was set at the XVIII Congress of the Chinese Communist Party, is to strengthen the army and combat power. Technically, the army is strengthened, a lot of money is invested there. At the same time, morale is not as high as we would like. This is what all is aimed at.

VIEW: How strong is discipline?

A. M.: Discipline at the level of the rank and file is very serious. Perhaps this is the most serious discipline that can be found. But at the same time over the past few years there have been a number of trials over the top and middle level, accused of decomposition, waste of military property. That is, the army began to suffer a number of problems that the Russian army suffers as well.

VIEW: How high is C's authority in the army?

A. M .: It’s not completely understood. While he was in the post of deputy chairman of the PRC, his authority was quite high. And he was based primarily on the fact that his father - a well-known party leader. And such people are always highly valued in the army. But given the rather tough measures that C has now taken in the army, perhaps his authority will be subject to certain doubts. Now it is important for him to show the whole people, and not the army, that he saves people's money.

VIEW: Historians remind that more than 50 years ago Mao Zedong also temporarily lowered the status of many generals and marshals. Was it such a military reform?

A. M: Mao, strictly speaking, did not carry out any reform. Mao Zedong was a native of the field commanders who, in 49, carried out a coup in China and occupied party posts. In the summer of 58, a number of military men spoke out against Mao, including against the Minister of Defense of the PRC. They blamed Mao for a whole series of excesses and an attempt to single-handedly rule the country. As a result, a number of people were fired from their posts and downgraded, but no one left. Mao Zedong reassigned himself an army. Now this can not be, because there is no acute confrontation between the military and the party administration there.

And most importantly - if before there was a dispute about the path of development of China, now there is no dispute. The path is clear. The only question is to strengthen military discipline and control over financial flows.

LOOK: How accustomed to the banquets, to the sweet life of the warlords cope with the drill, marches, and cleaning the barracks?

A. MM: I believe that all these measures are a terrible spittle in their direction. And the most important thing is an attempt to show that their place is within the framework of general party discipline. Under Hu Jintao, we could talk about the partial loss of control by the party leadership over military and regional party structures. Because of this, in fact, Bo Xilai attempted to carry out a party coup. Now Beijing is regaining control of the country, Xi is showing who is in charge in China.

VIEW: What determines the promotion in the Chinese army? Was the career of the current generals difficult?

A. MM: In the Chinese army, traditionally family ties were very strong. And there are even clan groups. A number of immigrants from Anhui Province in northwestern China and Chuan Province occupy several central posts in the army. But, nevertheless, both Hu Jintao and Xi Jinping struggle with this clan system.

In China, all ranks in any case are given no earlier than seniority. There is such a thing - junior major and middle major. There must be at least three years between these titles. To become a senior major, it will take another three years. You can be held for one position for five years or longer. In this regard, family ties play a big role. And since the Chinese army has not fought with anyone lately, there is no need to talk about difficulties.

Do not forget that in China, a huge militia, which is also funded by the Ministry of Defense. School workers - the militia also receive salaries. There is also a length of service. There, many specially serve in the militia or these schools to advance in service.

WGCGD: What are the chances of C as a result of reducing corruption and increasing morale?

A. M .: More yes than not. He is actively supported by a number of regional leaders, many of whom he himself brought to power. If he does not succeed, then all the further development of China will change. On the territory of East Asia will not appear that formidable fist, which many fear. China will not be considered as a powerful military factor. Military power is something that China lacks to be a superpower.
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  1. Thunderbolt
    Thunderbolt April 27 2013 06: 29 New
    +6
    I think the richer China becomes, the more corrupt the corrupt people will become. It will simply take a “decent”, veiled form. Chinese tangerines will be able to negotiate with the red emperor. hi
    1. Kazakh number 1
      Kazakh number 1 April 27 2013 10: 58 New
      +3
      If they are not shot. They always have the same sentence for corruption. The highest measure.
      1. smile
        smile April 27 2013 15: 42 New
        +4
        Kazakh number 1
        They are forced to shoot because corruption is a more widespread phenomenon (and shooting is not for every occasion) than ours is a tradition ... still in the middle of the 20th century, an official officially had the right to refuse to receive a visitor. who brought a completely legal offering that did not suit the official ..... they differ not only in that their corruption is more common but more severely punished for it, but also in that they do not water themselves with dirt, convincing themselves that they are the most corrupt and worse than they do not exist in the whole world ... and in our country over the past quarter century it has become, a national sport ....
      2. yak69
        yak69 April 27 2013 15: 52 New
        +1
        Quote: Kazakh№1
        the richer China becomes, the more corrupt will corrupt

        In many ways, the collapse of the USSR began to progress intensively during the years of our relative prosperity and satiety, under Brezhnev. Watch the films “Courier” and “City of Zero” by K. Shakhnazarov (director from God, seer). It shows how we (many) moved towards self-decomposition.
        It was not for nothing that Stalin kept the managerial elite and their kids in a black body. They then turned out to be real Judas!
        As for the army. My opinion is this: it is necessary to make it mandatory to obtain the rank of officer ONLY after serving in the conscription service through the rank and file. He served in the army like everyone else - you have the right to go to school and study to be an officer. I am sure this will add mutual understanding between commanders and soldiers.
  2. fenix57
    fenix57 April 27 2013 06: 37 New
    17
    To Comrade Minister of Defense Shoigu, it’s good to adopt the experience of a strategic partner, which is China, you don’t find ... Our generals would do well to “shake the fat” .. soldier
    1. Thunderbolt
      Thunderbolt April 27 2013 06: 40 New
      10
      Quote: fenix57
      .Our generals would do well to "shake the fat."
      Let them give it to the TRP, and then we'll see wink
      1. kind
        kind April 27 2013 07: 26 New
        +1
        By the way, in our army, the level of physical fitness is checked quarterly by everyone, including the generals. The salary allowance also depends on the level.
        1. APASUS
          APASUS April 27 2013 10: 58 New
          +6
          Quote: Good
          By the way, in our army, the level of physical fitness is checked quarterly by everyone, including the generals. The salary allowance also depends on the level

          Oh don't make me laugh! Would go to such exams once!
          The one with the clock also probably performs miracles on the horizontal bar !!!
        2. vilenich
          vilenich April 27 2013 12: 35 New
          +3
          Quote: Good
          By the way, in our army, the level of physical fitness is checked quarterly by everyone, including the generals. The salary allowance also depends on the level.

          And did you see the running generals? If YES, then I sincerely envy you, a rather rare sight!
          Although in Ukraine there was once such a case when the journalists were scolding the generals and they called them to a sports competition (and by the way, the generals shamed the journalists according to the full scheme).
          Here is a description of this event: “GENERAL RUN”. At the General Staff, the generals and admirals of the Armed Forces of Ukraine competed with journalists (http://flot2017.com/item/opinions/7120)
          By the way, the picture shows the current NHSS APU.
      2. Egoza
        Egoza April 27 2013 09: 48 New
        +6
        Quote: Thunderbolt
        Let them give it to the TRP, and then we'll see

        Oh! Why so cruel! TRP right away! Enough to install the bars on the checkpoint. Comrade will pass - let him go to the next shell. And get stuck because of the belly - well then ... until it grows thin.
        1. smile
          smile April 27 2013 15: 45 New
          +1
          Egoza
          Right! The Winnie the Pooh Experience. who ate too much at Rabbit away, must be introduced into the troops! :)))))
      3. Kazakh number 1
        Kazakh number 1 April 27 2013 11: 01 New
        +2
        In Kazakhstan, a couple of days ago, we sent one general to a pre-trial detention center. I took bribes from the ov for the purchase of military equipment.
      4. TekhnarMAF
        TekhnarMAF April 27 2013 15: 36 New
        0
        No, it’s better at VSKA, but there’s not going to be anything to look at. crying you!
      5. washi
        washi April 27 2013 16: 37 New
        0
        First, comply with army standards.
  3. taseka
    taseka April 27 2013 07: 00 New
    +4
    To shake them in the brain, first of all you need to relate to the soldier and lieutenant - and not to walk like the “Gods” protruding the upper lip - there are normal generals in Russia, just compared to the thick asses ... alas, they are few so far !!! I believe that there will be more, for the good of the country and the people !!!
  4. shurup
    shurup April 27 2013 07: 11 New
    +5
    Immediately the question. But will it be possible to put a general who has been serving a month as a private soldier in a guardhouse for, for example, unauthorized absence?
    1. Thunderbolt
      Thunderbolt April 27 2013 07: 14 New
      +5
      Quote: shurup
      can the general be
      Well, if you quit in a week, then I think you can wassat
    2. kind
      kind April 27 2013 07: 29 New
      +2
      And you apparently did not serve in the army, if you ask such questions? Read the disciplinary charter of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation, there are all the answers.
  5. Canep
    Canep April 27 2013 07: 13 New
    +1
    It would be better if the PLA generals were sent to Ryazan or Pskov for an internship for paratroopers.
    1. vilenich
      vilenich April 27 2013 12: 38 New
      +1
      Quote: Canep
      It would be better if the PLA generals were sent to Ryazan or Pskov for an internship for paratroopers.

      Or maybe it's better to change, they give us their generals for an internship, and we give them ours! Something impressions will be typed !!!
      1. Canep
        Canep April 27 2013 13: 59 New
        +3
        Ours can’t, then you will have to sew a new uniform for everyone, they are thin on rice.
        1. vilenich
          vilenich April 27 2013 16: 04 New
          +1
          Quote: Canep
          Ours can’t, then you will have to sew a new uniform for everyone, they are thin on rice.

          Many will only benefit from this! wink
  6. SPACE
    SPACE April 27 2013 07: 28 New
    +3
    The idea, PR action may be good, but in the form of an order launched from above, it speaks of problems and stratification in the army. Punishment, such as temporarily reduced in rank. I am against it, every general in the past was a soldier, and a good general will never forget this and will always remember the soldiers. And the general who forgot this, he should not be demoted, but dismissed. In the end, he himself can at any time temporarily “lower” himself in the rank, becoming a soldier, run, crawl and jump from a parachute and taste the soldier’s kitchen at the training ground. He will have more respect ...
    1. washi
      washi April 27 2013 16: 44 New
      0
      And we don’t have it? Generals may or may not already be. And the navy is inhibited. Admirals is a great show.
  7. Grated
    Grated April 27 2013 09: 11 New
    +1
    Good day to all!
    Something about the junior officers quietly, probably currently living in the barracks?
    1. Canep
      Canep April 27 2013 14: 01 New
      0
      Our lieutenants also mostly live in barracks.
    2. washi
      washi April 27 2013 16: 46 New
      0
      The fate of this. And you will leave someone in your place.
  8. dark_65
    dark_65 April 27 2013 09: 18 New
    +7
    The Chinese, and I lived with them side by side for almost 13 years, the nation is essentially not warlike, rather herd. The Chinese mentality is the Buddha mentality, adjusted for cunning, and the dodgy of an ordinary person.
    Not warriors, but in their mass, and most importantly, easily amenable to influence.
    They are great performers, but there’s no cunning. All the same, our genetic experience, and the experience of China, are two different things.
    I am writing somewhat schematically, but a blow can be expected from them, but the Aryan superiority of the Germans is unlikely.
    The fact that this is an enemy is beyond doubt, but the enemy is passive, only if snapped, or mass psychosis.
    So, you can sleep, but in the middle of the eye.
    Great chaos is now beginning in China, just like in our perestroika. We were closed, now we see the world, temptations.
    Next comes the turn to demand salaries, circuses, and satiety, let's see.
  9. awg75
    awg75 April 27 2013 09: 25 New
    +4
    EXCELLENT THOUGHT OF THINGS BY THE CHINESE !!! our same would not hurt to send mesyatsok take-off pokhe .... wash shorter. and then a whole caste of Moscow generals formed, who read about the regular army only in fairy tales (for them it’s not that the Far East is not suitable for them, they don’t understand the living conditions)
  10. maestro123
    maestro123 April 27 2013 10: 45 New
    +2
    Quote: awg75
    who read about the regular army only in fairy tales (it’s not for them that the Far East is not suitable for them and Peter, you don’t understand the conditions for life)

    It’s bad that the soldier doesn’t dream of becoming a general, and the general is already dreaming of a high career, there are generals upstairs who have gone all over the country and gone through the army. And there are thieves too, that’s where the main harm comes from the army.
    1. vilenich
      vilenich April 27 2013 12: 45 New
      +1
      Quote: maestro123
      It’s bad that the soldier doesn’t dream of becoming a general, and the general is already dreaming of a high career, there are generals upstairs who have gone all over the country and gone through the army. And there are thieves too, that’s where the main harm comes from the army.

      The army is generally quite a specific structure! At first they learn to obey and follow orders without undue reflection, and then they put forward the most executive, thoughtless and dodgy to commanding heights and want to have wise leaders at the exit. So we get what we have!
  11. not good
    not good April 27 2013 12: 18 New
    +1
    Generals in the barracks? A controversial decision. If the general, leading his subordinates does not delve into their needs and does not control the life of the units entrusted to him, then sending him to the barracks will not add to his conscience, and if the general is conscientious, then separation from the direct performance of his duties would be to the detriment the same subordinates.
  12. Opera
    Opera April 27 2013 12: 45 New
    +1
    Quote: Negoro
    Generals in the barracks? Controversial decision.

    Quote: Negoro
    separation from the direct performance of their duties will be to the detriment of the same subordinates

    I completely agree, this is a window dressing! I remember that Yeltsin also loved to ride on a trolley bus!
  13. lilit.193
    lilit.193 April 27 2013 13: 17 New
    +2
    This is the real leader of the country! good With this, there will be no Serdyukovs! angry And Chubais and even more so! am
  14. Adorofeev63
    Adorofeev63 April 27 2013 13: 50 New
    0
    Money has appeared in the country, and they are corrupting. With the "advice" salary, and Koly took one currency-vodka!
  15. My address
    My address April 27 2013 15: 16 New
    -5
    You look at Putin and it is clear that he is a citizen of the Kremlin. But he whistles about Russia.
    Is he now at least 30% pick up?
    I will not take him to work. He will not even pull a brigadier, resourcefulness and cunning move away from the questions do not work for long. Yes, even finding Chubais in Druganov despite the friends of the last of the CIA. And red is all in managers. How to explain tricks with Chubais at the head of RosElectronano and his friends from the CIA? And for whom does the GDP work?
    I repeat. Most likely the GDP of a citizen of the Kremlin.
    1. smile
      smile April 27 2013 15: 53 New
      -1
      My address
      ... And the old woman dreamed that the Golden Fish was on her premises ... as I understand it, you have both Reagan and Nixon and a couple of Bushs together with Napoleon and Kutuzov in the brigade ... and the place of deployment - ward number 6 in a local fool ... forced to knock on the keys with your tongue - you can’t do it with your hands, a straitjacket is hindering ..... my condolences .... what's your trough - hasn't cracked yet? :)))))
  16. washi
    washi April 27 2013 16: 53 New
    +2
    I agree with both hands. Only everyone who is a reserve soldier. And then Zhirik constantly flaunts his colonel rank, and Mironov - sergeant, and many did not serve at all. Send in parts, hold KMB to its fullest. Let's see who survives and who goes to the hospital. The main thing is that the unit commanders do not sell out.