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To the fall of "Rain" and other mouthpieces of the creative class. Why did they stop giving money to them and who will take their place

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"The rain of the noisy drop ..."


If someone suddenly doesn’t know, the Dozhd TV channel is a conglomeration of rebellious showmen, actively covering swamp riots a year after their completion and exposing the horrors of Stalinism after 60 years after the death of Joseph Stalin. A television channel was created in 2010 for a specific audience, on which great hope was placed in subsequent Moscow events. However, the audience in reality did not justify hopes, which soon affected the financial condition of its media horns.

Thus, the “acute” social talk-show by Ksenia Sobchak “State Department” on “Rain” was closed by the decision of the general director Natalia Sindeeva. The reason - a low audience rating. Sindeeva said that the channel will try to restart the program in September in a new format that has yet to be found.

By the way, this will be the fourth attempt to find a format for the “State Department”. What ordered to live long now is even called the “State Department 3”. Initially, the show was broadcast on MTV, but after the first release it was taken off the air - the channel did not like the format. Then KA Sobchak dragged it to the Internet broadcast on the Snob website, but it did not last long there, migrating to Rain after the third reincarnation.

Strange, agree. It seems to be a hot topic, and guests are handshaking, but there is no rating.

The situation with television journalist Parfenov is also bad. After throwing on TV channels, he also came to the “Rain”, where he recently launched his weekly social program “Parfenov”, but now there is not enough money for it. Although you need only 100 million rubles per year. The first issues were sponsored by the father and son Gudkov together with Ilya Ponomarev, but now, apparently, this source has dried up, as Parfyonov opened a fundraising company with television viewers.

However, this is a problem not only of specific programs, but also of the entire TV channel. Recently it became known that he is switching to a paid broadcast. This means that the viewer will now have to pay from 10 to 40 rubles for one-time viewing of live broadcasts and authoring programs.

CEO Sindeeva recognizes that such a move is likely to cause an outflow of viewers, but, apparently, the channel has no other financing options. By the way, if you are a fan of it and want to support financially, then you can invite Natalia Sindeeva to dinner. It will cost you only 1 million rubles.

Non-public television of Russia

The project “Public Television of Russia” (OTP), which has become one of the last products of Medvedev's presidency, could be a salvation from media collapse for creakls. But this channel in the course of its carrying has undergone dramatic changes. Previously, we already wrote about the difficulties with the collection of funds, which, in theory, were to ensure its functioning, but now on this initiative finally put an end to it.

As it became known recently, OTP will be financed by the state on 100%. The government has recognized the failure of the idea of ​​collecting tens of billions of rubles from the audience (the amounts from 30 to 100 billion rubles of target capital were previously voiced). As a result, it was decided to allocate funds for the channel under the state program "Information Society".

That is, at the output we received another federal channel. That, perhaps, for the better. If initially it was planned as “socially urgent”, now we are promised “programs about science and culture, high-quality documentary and Soviet cinema”.

On this occasion, by the way, the head of OTR, Anatoly Lysenko, was recently interviewed by Ksenia Sobchak, who accused him of refusing to create an “opposition channel investigating the crimes of Putin’s inner circle.” Here is a very significant fragment from the conversation:

“Lysenko: Very interesting were the developments (for OTR - ES) on how to show the way of the law to life on the example of the law on fisheries, which was taken along with the Public Opinion Foundation. Really curious…

Sobchak: Do you really think that the law on fisheries is really interesting for the emerging civil society in Russia? The law on rallies - yes, the law on children - yes.

Lysenko: Tomorrow I will give your phone to my fisherman friends. I do not envy you. Do you know how many people in the country are passionate about this thing? About twenty million people.

(...)

Sobchak: While there is no social protest, do you think that requests for liberal freedoms, freedom of speech are not so important?

Lysenko: That is история our development, in our society, these requests have always been not very significant. Take the 1913-14 years, the most such ... I now have a bzik, I wish I would not deal with this outrage, but would make a film on this topic. After all, who then spoke most of all? Not workers and peasants, but the liberal intelligentsia. By the way, first of all, she was under attack with a piano thrown out of the windows, with philosophical steamers. It was the engine, not the legend of the workers 'and peasants' revolution. ”

Woe to the vanquished

What we are seeing now is not a separate misfortune for the showmen lost in the life of the show or the Dozhd TV channel - it is a systematic collapse of the information mouthpiece of creacles. As noted above, the crackers with the task entrusted to them on the street failed. They did not cope so well that the sponsors have no sense in spending on their further encouragement.

The reasons for this may be different versions. But the result is indisputable: for yesterday’s media elitarians this turned into a real tragedy. Where can I get 100 million to Parfyonov for creativity, who will give Sobchak to Courchevel?

The hope that ordinary representatives of “disgruntled townspeople” will take upon themselves the heavy burden of financial support for exposing the state will not be even unreal — they are ridiculous at all. The self-respecting craacle today is saving money for a trip to Egypt. Million for dinner with Mr. Sindeeva in his budget does not provide.

An example of an OTV is proof of this. Yes that OTV - in the eyes of the projects that require, and much smaller fees. Big City Magazine (the owner of which, incidentally, Sindeeva, and the investor, her husband Alexander Vinokurov) does not know who to sell and is being blackmailed by his own “unique creative team,” the Colta website has sunk into something like a coma, followed by followed by the "public Internet project OpenSpace."

In general, the creative class did not pull the media load. Whether the appetites of the “unique journalists” turned out to be excessive, whether the creative class is small and financially inconsistent, or it is both.

Lesson us

All of the above doesn’t mean that the information field is free from the influence of the anti-state media lobby - it was not for nothing that they had been bossed for two decades, teaching them to write about their state with the intonation of tired disgust and asserting that this is professionalism. It would be naive to assume that the disappearance of the most costly horns of anti-state propaganda will change this intonation.

It’s just now that this disgusting and tired stance towards Russia is left without grants and private investors by media chapters with them in the state-financed media. And if the state relaxes, it will soon receive a hundred “eh of Moscow” at public expense.
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  1. Alex Nick
    Alex Nick April 27 2013 06: 19 New
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    It’s time to cover this viper.
    1. Nicholas C.
      Nicholas C. April 27 2013 08: 24 New
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      There was a time when Medved Dimon-iPhone himself advertised this channel. Did not help.
      1. krasin
        krasin April 27 2013 17: 37 New
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        All the unpopular channels would have been closed long ago if it hadn't been for the abominable practice
        packet TV. The consumer of channels, that is, me, you, he, the family, when you connect a TV (cable, satellite), they acquire a channel package that includes different channels. It is necessary to enable a person to take a package of channels, those that he wants, that is, by name for each channel. and then all the channels are unpopular unnecessary, house-2 type trash and others by themselves will be eliminated, only those that people watch and pay for will remain. The garbage channels will automatically be hidden.
    2. NKVD
      NKVD April 27 2013 09: 48 New
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      The article pleased. We also need to take care of sponsors for those who unfastened their loot, and the ordinary "creative hamsters" on the Internet (and not only in it) to push ...am
    3. bask
      bask April 27 2013 10: 26 New
      +3
      Quote: Alex Nick
      avno time this gadyushnik cover

      What kind of viper. it so happened that in Russia all television and the media are under the control of Zionists, local and foreign.
      So, from the name, the anti-Russian anti-patriotic essence of the media, nothing changes. This article is about any of the federal channels.
      1. bezumnyiPIT
        bezumnyiPIT April 27 2013 11: 34 New
        -2
        Well, Jews seem to you everywhere
        1. Kaa
          Kaa April 27 2013 12: 44 New
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          Quote: bezumnyiPIT
          Well, Jews seem to you everywhere
          At factories, fields, in mines do not seem. "Everyone is silent, and I, perhaps, will express myself. Although I run the risk of being branded as a xenophobic, anti-Semitic and supporter of the Iron Curtain. We went: I’m probably quite dumb, but I don’t understand why the text for “Total Dictation” this year will be read by Dean Rubin.
          Dina Rubina is probably a good writer. Perhaps the brightest, most talented writer. But she is a citizen of another state. In 1990, Dina Ilyinichna emigrated to Israel:
          “I understood that I would not return to Russia,” Rubina admitted in an interview with KP. - But she could not go ... But it was my choice. I wanted my children to grow up in the national majority. ” Now the children of Dina Rubina are growing in the national majority: in 2005 her daughter served in the Tsakhal (Israel Defense Forces), now, after eight years, she is probably a melimonica, that is, a reservist.
          No, I'm not talking about nationality. I’m talking about citizenship. Do we have our own writers? Well, I don’t know, Lyudmila Petrushevskaya. Dina Sabitova. Tatyana Tolstaya. German Sadulayev.
          Why show that an emigrant with twenty-three years of experience knows Russian best of all? Left, and now will teach us?The leadership of Total Dictation argued that the campaign has been actively developing abroad in recent years, and, in fact, has turned into an international project. In general, I don’t understand much. I don’t understand why in the Vladimir Solovyov’s “Duel” program I am constantly taught to live by Estonian citizen Mikhail Weller. Smart or foolish, the writer’s words are devalued by the very fact that he was presented with the Estonian State Prize in 2008 - the Order of the White Star.And the point is not that a small Baltic country pursues a consistent anti-Russian policy. Just what is allowed to Jupiter is not allowed to the bull. I suspect that I would have demolished the “state fool” from a Russian citizen calmly - but I don’t want to demolish Vladimir Pozner from a US citizen (or, as it is customary to say in certain circles, an American influence agent)This, of course, is not about a total ban on the participation of foreigners in the public life of Russia, but only about priorities. The word of a citizen should always be more weighty, the word of a person from abroad - optional and alternative. A glance from the side is useful, but you should always remember that a foreign agent may pursue its own goals other than Russian...
          Well, as an official with a house in Miami, a business in the Swiss Alps and a daughter at Harvard. http://www.kp.ru/daily/26042/2956369/
          1. StolzSS
            StolzSS April 27 2013 20: 32 New
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            And in my opinion it’s time for all these teachers with foreign passports to revise, so to speak, exactly the recipes of a friend of the MAO hehe hehuiweibins have toughly cleaned the professors at the time, but we need to clean all the scribblers, the journalist and other rubbish which is not a pity))))
          2. SASCHAmIXEEW
            SASCHAmIXEEW April 27 2013 20: 51 New
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            KAA is 100% right, the dominance of the Zionists is striking, and all because the key positions are "they" and they are in power !!!
            1. Borat
              Borat April 28 2013 09: 49 New
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              Quote: SASCHAmIXEEW
              and they are in power !!!

              President of the Russian Federation - Putin (Russian)
              Prime Minister of the Russian Federation - Medvedev (Russian)
              Chairman of the Council of the Federation of the Russian Federation - Matvienko (Russian)
              Chairman of the State Duma of the Russian Federation - Naryshkin (Russian)
              and so on downward.

              So, all of the above representatives of the Russian authorities, according to your statement, are Zionists.
          3. knn54
            knn54 April 30 2013 19: 41 New
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            1.bezumnyiPIT: Well, Jews seem to you everywhere.
            In the USSR (and even now), Russians, Ukrainians ... took all the warm places: at the blast furnace, marten. And the Jews got a cold beer stall.
            2. Alexander of novels: ... escort Gaidar to the last journey.
            About the dead either good or nothing. Died, that's good.
      2. Xunta
        Xunta April 27 2013 12: 09 New
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        Ren TV (Week with Marianna Maksimovskaya), Star, All Russia Holding (1,2, Culture, 24, My Planet) Absolutely adequate channels ... and no Jews are involved. And normal people generally watch TV at a minimum, books must be read. About Ren TV, I especially emphasize! Only a week with Marianna Maksimovskaya ... the rest of their heresy about Zionist aliens burning brains from psychotronic weapons is heresy)
        1. Volozhanin
          Volozhanin April 27 2013 12: 57 New
          +5
          I agree that something Ren TV has been “carrying” lately. Isn’t it time for someone to be a fool?
          1. smile
            smile April 27 2013 14: 54 New
            +4
            Volozhanin
            Looking at that fucking hot one. what they are broadcasting on RenTV, I think that it is time to put the Inquisition with its fires into action ... it just doesn’t fit my head, how can such a thing be fanned!
            1. dark_65
              dark_65 April 27 2013 16: 51 New
              +2
              Evil you all lol gave fools freedom of speech, because for so many years no one remembered their Martians
        2. smile
          smile April 27 2013 14: 51 New
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          Xunta
          I agree about the Jews - well, I don’t believe that they are so super-intelligent superhuman people that they rule the planet the way they want, and we, dull, miserable and poor, hang out at their place; well, they don’t do anything better for us .... like I don’t believe that they are supervillains who only dream of enslaving the whole world .. (if you remember, this label is zealously hung on us :)))) ..
          And about Maksimovskaya - alas, it’s sometimes funny to watch how this pretty young lady, preaching the usual marsh truths, is trying to interview different villains ... well, for example, protecting mad pussy and running into Stalin- at Chaplin, or at the same Astakhov ( even though he’s not nice to me). In such cases, they tear her like a goat, and she just needs to stupidly slap her eyes and sluggishly kick back ... and this is not because she is stupid - no, this is because the truths she preaches are rotten, she simply has no arguments for her protection .... I personally look at her this week only because I want to know what else our opozitsioneryer threw out .... and often they do not understand how much they expose themselves in such programs ....
          1. tan0472
            tan0472 April 27 2013 15: 20 New
            +7
            Quote: smile
            And about Maximovskaya

            Many Maximovskaya texts are written (and served) with NLP elements. Liberal burps are given out as immutable truths.
            1. smile
              smile April 27 2013 15: 56 New
              +4
              tan0472
              Well, about NLP - I don’t know .... somehow it doesn’t affect me ... :)))) And with the fact that burping - I agree!
              1. tan0472
                tan0472 April 27 2013 16: 42 New
                +2
                Quote: smile
                Well, about NLP - I don’t know .... somehow it doesn’t affect me ...

                I am not special in NLP, but I read one book (to know when they affect me). Maksimovskaya’s speeches are designed not for you, but for the young and undecided.
            2. Botanologist
              Botanologist April 27 2013 21: 52 New
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              Quote: tan0472
              Many Maximovskaya texts are written (and served) with NLP elements.


              It seems that these texts are written in a cultural environment, where the principles of NLP are somewhat ... different. In Russia, such emissions do not work. After all, NLP should be tied to culture, symbols, mentality wink rather than rewrite stupidly a textbook on media marketing. Although they are doing it.
          2. Tverichanka
            Tverichanka April 27 2013 19: 51 New
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            Quote: smile
            about Maximovskaya

            Absolute truth !!! And the channel rotten to the smack. And Maksimovskaya.
            1. smile
              smile April 27 2013 21: 19 New
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              Tverichanka
              Thank you - you’re separate because you are here:)))) ... it’s very nice that such a specific site is actively visited by girls, and they are exceptionally reasonable .... much more reasonable than some local men ... :) )))
      3. Kaa
        Kaa April 27 2013 12: 17 New
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        Quote: bask
        from the name, anti-Russian anti-patriotic essence of the media, nothing changes
        I INSIST ON MORE RADICAL MEASURES, CAREFULLY STUDY THE HERITAGE!
      4. SASCHAmIXEEW
        SASCHAmIXEEW April 27 2013 20: 44 New
        0
        That's right, Zionists everywhere where it smells of money, but on TV and in the media since Soviet times and where a freebie! For my 65 years, I saw one Jew working in his arms, in the ATB LOAO, all the others with feathers in their pockets and with ties! Honestly, they are like a nation, I’m on the drum, but when the country is 80% Russian, foreigners rule to the detriment of the people, I don’t like that, I don’t like Mr. Kipit in me ... It’s because if nothing changes, there will be no good ...
      5. Che
        Che April 30 2013 19: 29 New
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        Ay beauty, everything is correctly noted.))) +++
    4. bereg
      bereg April 27 2013 14: 31 New
      +3
      channel of Moscow ghouls, let them stop stinking the trash !!!!!!!!!!
      1. Ezhaak
        Ezhaak April 27 2013 15: 29 New
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        Quote: bereg
        close the trash

        They themselves decay and close. Why bother? Earth and dung worms will help them in this.
    5. Vasilenko Vladimir
      Vasilenko Vladimir April 27 2013 20: 37 New
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      but I didn’t know that there is such a channel laughing
    6. ism_ek
      ism_ek April 30 2013 11: 18 New
      0
      Money is a strange thing. Here are some lines from the biography of Mikhail Leontyev, the ideological inspirer of the author of this article:
      Born October 13, 1958 in Moscow, a Jew.
      At the beginning of 1993, together with Dmitry Ostalsky and Sergey Parkhomenko, he left Nezavisimaya, and in February 1993 he became one of the founding individuals of the Editors of the Segodnya Newspaper LLP, created with the sponsorship of Vladimir Gusinsky (Bridge Bank) and Alexander Smolensky (Stolichny Bank; later A. Smolensky left the project).
      In 1997, after the reorganization of the newspaper Segodnya, he left it and took part in the project of the Delo newspaper, sponsored by Menatep Mikhail Khodorkovsky
      From November 1997 to 1998, he was the author of the informational and analytical program Seventh Day (TV Center, a channel of the Moscow City Hall).
      Since March 15, 1999, he has been the host of the daily informational and analytical program “However,” of the Vremya information channel (ORT), which was controlled by Boris Berezovsky until the fall of 2000.
      1. Ezhaak
        Ezhaak April 30 2013 11: 55 New
        +1
        You're dramatizing. Money for a corrupt man, that worm for a fish.
  2. Mitek
    Mitek April 27 2013 06: 20 New
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    "invite Natalya Sindeeva herself to dinner. It will cost you only 1 million rubles." ETOGES, what are these dear today ... how are they there .. and what is interesting you can agree on for three or four!))))
    1. alexl85
      alexl85 April 27 2013 06: 50 New
      +5
      Dinner passed and a million disappeared ... If there is one, I think you should not spend on such nonsense ...
      You can raise a good startup for a million.
    2. ImPerts
      ImPerts April 27 2013 10: 48 New
      +3
      And the continuation of the banquet is included in this price? Pay a million for dinner? Listerman argues that such entertainment is cheaper.
      1. TekhnarMAF
        TekhnarMAF April 27 2013 16: 24 New
        +2
        I confirm that my dinner without sob (p?) Chachki was much cheaper, and invited, much nicer! Speaking about Xenia, do not respect yourself!
  3. waisson
    waisson April 27 2013 06: 24 New
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    if it’s honest for me, as a Boraban citizen, what’s going on behind the scenes of Masmedio, I have one task to survive in this setup and not to watch cockfights of the corrupt sub-winged top of the media giant with a false patriotic one, and right-wing thoughts say, but everyone who revolves around him got their minds around.
  4. GreatRussia
    GreatRussia April 27 2013 06: 32 New
    0
    Academician J. Alferov defeated magazines from the Rain:


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y8BRJFsvNzY
  5. djon3volta
    djon3volta April 27 2013 06: 33 New
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    why did you lose interest with TC LADY? and what is so hard to understand? tired, not interesting, monotonous, one-sided. public
  6. GreatRussia
    GreatRussia April 27 2013 06: 35 New
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    Academician, Nobel laureate J. Alferov defeated the magazine from "Rain":

    1. does it
      does it April 27 2013 11: 17 New
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      Quote: GreatRussia
      Academician, Nobel laureate J. Alferov defeated the magazine from "Rain":

      fat plus Zhores Alferov ...
    2. Hudo
      Hudo April 27 2013 11: 21 New
      +9
      I looked. What a bright man Zhores Ivanovich! Among these, I do not know what to call, individuals simply Gulliver in the country of Lilliput.
    3. Sonik
      Sonik April 27 2013 11: 30 New
      +7
      Cool)) At first I saw the pink logo of the channel as - False
      1. Tverichanka
        Tverichanka April 27 2013 19: 56 New
        +1
        Quote: Sonik
        channel logo like - False

        And they were not far from the truth. You probably have the first impression, often the most true?
    4. Zeus
      Zeus April 27 2013 12: 25 New
      +2
      It looks like a conversation between professors and students))))
      1. Hudo
        Hudo April 27 2013 16: 55 New
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        Quote: Zeus
        It looks like a conversation between professors and students))))


        Rather, a conversation (forced) with those who entered the university for ashipka and did not pass the first session to the know-it-alls.
    5. tan0472
      tan0472 April 27 2013 15: 52 New
      +4
      Quote: "There is no more important task for the country than the revival of the high-tech industry" Zh. Alferov (38 minutes). The APEC Summit in Vladivostok and the Olympics in Sochi are certainly great, but without them the country will not cease to exist. But without the high-tech industry, it will cease.
      1. spynet
        spynet April 28 2013 05: 00 New
        0
        The APEC summit in Vladivostok left behind a higher educational institution with infrastructure, and Sochi is a resort city and after the Olympics can attract quite a few tourists ...
        And of course, these investments, in theory, should pay off in the future, and everything will depend on the implementation.

        P.S. And for demagogues, such as on Rain, who say / will say that the money was thrown into the pipe and the president is to blame for everything: If the president gave you an apartment, this does not mean that he should also clean it.
  7. smel
    smel April 27 2013 06: 38 New
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    Too many people think about themselves on the television screen. Not far from them, and figures from culture have left. According to the zombie man, they insistently push the invaluable role of some political figures, but it is impossible to hear the opinion of people who are among the scientific elite. And it is completely impossible for a simple layman even to express his thoughts on the housing and communal services reform, the traffic police and the Ministry of Internal Affairs as a whole, on education and health services, etc., on ordinary channels, for various people, various funds for studying public opinion, VTsIOMs do this, yes and just zhurnalyugi. So I personally am not sorry for the closure of malware and channels. And the central Augean stables would not hurt to clean or restore (especially copyright programs and various show programs)
  8. gleb49
    gleb49 April 27 2013 06: 43 New
    +5
    The end of the article is incomparable. Not the state will relax, but specific editors. There are many grinning cattle in Russia who are ready to find negative everywhere and in everything.
  9. djon3volta
    djon3volta April 27 2013 06: 57 New
    0
    Why edit and shorten my comment ??? am
    why did you lose interest with TC LADY? and what is so hard to understand? tired, not interesting, monotonous, one-sided. public
  10. fenix57
    fenix57 April 27 2013 07: 01 New
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    Oh, there is no money, oh there are no sponsors .. All these Syndhei, dogs, parthenovs, in short all this Liberosovsky creative - on farms, yes with shovels, yes to the factory machine, and to Chukotka to the reindeer herders in the tundra - there they have the place ...
    1. Kaa
      Kaa April 27 2013 12: 49 New
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      Quote: fenix57
      all this creative liberosovsky-
      THERE IS THEIR DAY NORM OF PROMOTION BY HONEST WORK FOR THE GOOD COUNTRY!
  11. djon3volta
    djon3volta April 27 2013 07: 03 New
    +7
    Why edit and shorten my koment? am
    why did you lose interest with TC LODZH? and what is so difficult to understand? tired, not interesting, monotonous, one-sided. They wanted to replace TC STAR with public television, do you know about this? and at the beginning of this project it was just that, remove STAR, and on this place to show the faces of megahombs, heaped up, liberals, discontent, and marsh swamp slush mixed with gomosyatiny.

    who constantly speaks out against Putin? thieves and crooks such as Navalny, psycho Udaltsov (by the way, he was in a psychiatric hospital 2 weeks 5 years ago), pedophile Adagamov, the wrecker of Kabanov’s wife, the impoverished millionaire Psyusha Stulchak, the last traitor to hang himself in the Netherlands and the Spanish authorities granted political asylum gay activist Alexei Kiselev, who fears criminal prosecution in Russia in the riot case on Bolotnaya Square in Moscow, Interfax reported on Friday.

    those who are strayed by a close mind, they like to say that they say those who are for Putin or at the feeding trough or thieves, Nashi (there are no others who are for Putin))), it turns out pensioners, veterans, teachers, medical workers, military personnel, drivers of trawl buses, miners and oil workers, carpenters and masons, pilots, machinists, scientists, etc. are all thieves and Nashi? it turns out that tens of millions of thieves and nashists voted for Putin in the country? here’s the Second World War, he’s living for him, he voted for Putin, I asked him in the winter, is he a thief or a NASHT?

    I’ll answer you this way, since you are rowing all in one comb, then I’ll do it like that. You are against Putin, then are you with those who are in the picture, logical? I think 100% logical.
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov April 27 2013 07: 12 New
      +3
      Quote: djon3volta
      who constantly opposes Putin? thieves and crooks such as Navalny, crazy Udaltsov (

      Hi John. Thank you for remembering Anal! I want to ask you here, if this pro-liberal shushara is the enemy of Russia, then what kind of banana does Putin drag Kudrin and publicize it all over the country. Even with his words, he offered a job, WHY? Familiar all faces yes wink
      1. djon3volta
        djon3volta April 27 2013 07: 35 New
        +4
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        then what kind of banana is Putin dragging Kudrin and promoting it all over the country.

        however, Kudrin does not work in the government and does not occupy any posts in the Kremlin. he was dismissed. And the fact that Kudrin was allegedly called the best finance minister in the world, Gorbachev and Yeltsin called the West almost the main peacekeepers.
        vryatli Putin called him to work. and you can say a lot on the air. according to Kudrin, you need to change financial policies and he supposedly knows the recipes, it turns out bad Putin does not hire him because Kudrin knows how to cope with the situation? where is the logic ?? ?
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov April 27 2013 07: 45 New
          +2
          Quote: djon3volta

          however, Kudrin does not work in the government and does not occupy any posts in the Kremlin

          However, Putin offered him a position, but Kudrin refused! According to Putin himself hi
          Quote: djon3volta
          .a the fact that Kudrin was allegedly called the best finance minister in the world

          Without Allegedly, if he was watching a press conference, Putin himself drew attention to this fact and presented it as an achievement!
          Quote: djon3volta
          vryatli Putin called him to work
          Yes, it didn’t call, Putin (not yet 48 hours gone) as Putin said to the whole country-What did he offer Kudrin to work in the government. This was said by Putin-PERSONALLY.
          Quote: djon3volta
          where is the logic???
          Review Putin's interview again, and then write. Although I think you watched it from the first to the last word. And I understand that I myself was surprised when I saw Kudrin there and heard from Putin what I heard. What to do is reality.
          1. Thunderbolt
            Thunderbolt April 27 2013 07: 49 New
            +2
            Quote: djon3volta
            vryatli Putin called him to work.
            140 million Russians have seen, but YOU Eugene how overlooked belay ?
            1. Nitup
              Nitup April 27 2013 10: 48 New
              0
              You can say anything, the main thing is done.
            2. bezumnyiPIT
              bezumnyiPIT April 27 2013 11: 39 New
              +1
              Yeah, everyone looked straight, personally I have no desire to watch every year the king communicates with the people, there are a lot of things
              1. Tverichanka
                Tverichanka April 27 2013 20: 14 New
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                Quote: bezumnyiPIT
                - personally, I have no desire

                And don’t look. Nobody comes to you with a gun and forces you, right? So what is the problem then?
          2. djon3volta
            djon3volta April 27 2013 10: 09 New
            0
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            Without Allegedly, if he was watching a press conference, Putin himself drew attention to this fact and presented it as an achievement!

            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            Yes, it didn’t call, Putin (not yet 48 hours gone) as Putin said to the whole country-What did he offer Kudrin to work in the government. This was said by Putin-PERSONALLY.

            So you and many people sitting here don’t believe Putin, but you yourself say that Putin is a balabol, but then you believe it already? laughing strange you. where is the logic again asking? what are the double standards? you either believe or don't believe Putin, stop rushing there and there and clinging to words.
            I say again - did he say anything on the air. Did Kudrin confirm that he was called?
            1. Alexander Romanov
              Alexander Romanov April 28 2013 04: 18 New
              +1
              Quote: djon3volta
              Kudrin confirmed that his name was?

              Is this exactly what Kudrin did or didn’t you see or hear? Or maybe you don’t see what is not profitable to see and what is not profitable to hear?
              1. Ruslan67
                Ruslan67 April 28 2013 04: 31 New
                +1
                Quote: Alexander Romanov
                Is this exactly what Kudrin did or didn’t you see or hear?

                But she doesn’t want to work at the same time request Probably a small salary was offered wassat
                1. Alexander Romanov
                  Alexander Romanov April 28 2013 04: 51 New
                  +2
                  Quote: Ruslan67
                  Probably a small salary was offered

                  No, it’s not about salary. He wanted to work as president, and this position is already taken. laughing
                  1. Ruslan67
                    Ruslan67 April 28 2013 04: 54 New
                    +2
                    Quote: Alexander Romanov
                    He wanted to work as president

                    Classic mismatch of desires with opportunities fool
                    1. Alexander Romanov
                      Alexander Romanov April 28 2013 05: 08 New
                      +3
                      Quote: Ruslan67
                      Classic mismatch of desires with opportunities

                      Yes, this is exactly the classic, eat pineapples, grouse chew, two corefana and Kudrin bourgeois. Escort Gaidar to the last let. Mourn with them, tearing button accordions laughing
                      1. Ruslan67
                        Ruslan67 April 28 2013 05: 15 New
                        +1
                        Quote: Alexander Romanov
                        Mourn with them, tearing button accordions

                        Who is there in our funeral business? I give know-how to expand the assortment of funeral services shops-accordions in mourning coloring for such events wassat And given the age of some individuals button accordions will require a lot bully
                      2. Alexander Romanov
                        Alexander Romanov April 28 2013 05: 24 New
                        +2
                        Quote: Ruslan67
                        And given the age of some individuals button accordions will require a lot

                        The main thing is that there would be enough vodka, otherwise the people will begin to see off the liberals on their last journey and away we go. For two weeks, at least the country will thump. Hunchback on the way, champagne gentlemen laughing
                      3. Ruslan67
                        Ruslan67 April 28 2013 05: 26 New
                        +2
                        Quote: Alexander Romanov
                        Hunchback on the way, champagne gentlemen laughing

                        And there you look and the old turtle will ripen wassat As if in a long binge with joy not to break what
                      4. Alexander Romanov
                        Alexander Romanov April 28 2013 05: 34 New
                        +4
                        Quote: Ruslan67

                        And there you look and the old turtle will ripen

                        You about this wink Yes, here, where for the bedside table apparently recruited Apostle Peter her recruiting laughing
                      5. Ruslan67
                        Ruslan67 April 28 2013 05: 43 New
                        +1
                        Quote: Alexander Romanov
                        apparently fell over at the Apostle Peter her conscription laughing

                        Rather, she is in another department am And there and so the overload - the boilers can’t cope wassat
  12. Tverichanka
    Tverichanka April 27 2013 20: 12 New
    +1
    Quote: Alexander Romanov
    I heard from Putin what I heard.

    Alexander, I hope you heard the saying, “Keep your friends close to you, and your enemies even closer!” What could be incomprehensible here? In the world of finance, Kudrin is not the last person (we do not consider his activities as the min.finanzof of the Russian Federation), he has extensive personal connections. No one has canceled Insider, and such information is highly, very valuable. And why not use such a source to Putin? And at the same time limit Kudrin’s activity as an independent politician? Isn't that logical? It seems to me that any leader (no matter what he directs) he seeks to know from reliable sources what is going on, what is being conceived by competitors, and even more so by ill-wishers ... Does such a version have the right to exist?
  13. Che
    Che 1 May 2013 21: 16 New
    0
    Alexander Romanov. Games all these sayings, reassure the world community to less yapping.
  • cyberspace
    cyberspace April 27 2013 08: 24 New
    +9
    Quote: Alexander Romanov
    which banana Putin drags Kudrin

    So the proverb “Keep your friends close and your enemies even closer” seems to have not been canceled yet.
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov April 27 2013 08: 33 New
      +1
      Quote: siber
      So the proverb "Keep your friends close, but your enemies even closer."

      Yeah even closer is that take him to work in the government fool
      1. lewerlin53rus
        lewerlin53rus April 27 2013 09: 20 New
        +4
        Well, Kudrin, he can be a really cool financier. But his task, as a subordinate, is to do what his superiors instruct him. And when he began to make a gag and still dissolve his tongue where it was not necessary, he was fired. As far as I understand, he is against our enormous military spending. It is, of course, easier to solve economic problems without spending money on defense. But if today we do not spend money on defense, then tomorrow we will not steer our economy.
  • Zeus
    Zeus April 27 2013 12: 38 New
    +3
    Kudrin Putin suggested to WORK, and not to kill the economy further with his neoliberal-style economic mantras. Kudrin does not want to work on a new scheme (why is this a separate issue) and he spoke about this almost directly using the word - half measures. Putin said this: He doesn’t want to work the net.
    1. Tu-214R
      Tu-214R April 27 2013 13: 53 New
      +2
      Kudrin is not a net, he simply does not want to work in the Medvedev government. Remember the scandal, it was probably before the presidential election, Kudrin said that if Medvedev becomes prime minister, he will abandon the post of minister. Medvedev (then still president) smashed Kudrin to smithereens for this demarche, and proposed to leave the post of minister. They showed public flogging on TV. Disagreeing with the policies of the prime minister or president is one thing, but after such a scandal to return to Medvedev - this must not be respected.
      1. SASCHAmIXEEW
        SASCHAmIXEEW April 27 2013 22: 33 New
        0
        Respect yourself, disrespect, it’s not about kudrin, in my opinion, it is as corrupt as Chubais and they both carry out the same order, the collapse of the country! And how this is done, everyone feels on his pocket! All the price increase is the result of the work of kudrin ! Our funds are abroad at 2-3% per annum, and our, supposedly, the Central Bank gives money to our bank at 8%, and those to the economy at 15%, so who is the enemy of the country? Mendel and Kudrin played the show! No more! It’s necessary to drive all the liquidationists out of power, I know that for sure !!! They are the enemies of RUSSIA !!!
  • optimist
    optimist April 27 2013 10: 52 New
    +2
    All honest, adequate, decent, and loving their country people oppose your Jewish-Zionist bastard. gdp and his minions. And the fact that you were “demoted” from “major” to “foreman” in this forum is the best confirmation of this. Every day the idiot is becoming less and less, who stupidly believe that the gdp "is not sleeping, -thinks about Russia" !!! laughing
  • bezumnyiPIT
    bezumnyiPIT April 27 2013 11: 37 New
    0
    I am far from being a liberal, but I am not for Putin
  • Tverichanka
    Tverichanka April 27 2013 20: 02 New
    0
    Quote: djon3volta
    and I will do so.

    John, I support you. We will fight back together!
  • kind
    kind April 27 2013 07: 37 New
    +5
    Strange, agree. It seems to be a hot topic, and guests are handshaking, but there is no rating.

    Nothing strange, to whom it’s pleasant for DEM to stir up, and even bastard of its smell? !!! Although I suspect there are perverts.
  • shinobi
    shinobi April 27 2013 08: 00 New
    +3
    Yes, what really is there. Opps blown away, covered up financing channels and a whisker. There are few ideological ones, but no one will work for free. They’ll finish the oval one and you can flip this page of the history of the Russian state.
  • family
    family tree April 27 2013 08: 26 New
    +3
    It’s just that now these squeamish-tired position regarding Russia, which were left without grants and private investors, will be dragged by media crates to the state-financed media. And if the state relaxes, it will soon receive a hundred “Moscow echs” at the state expense.
    Yes, with what fright? All this KaKa sings to the tune of those who pay them. So, they will repaint very quickly and begin to bite the former owners, and with pleasure, at least for the fact that they threw them.
  • Belogor
    Belogor April 27 2013 09: 05 New
    +2
    Hamster television, it's even worse than ordinary. As they say - it sucks
  • Semurg
    Semurg April 27 2013 09: 22 New
    +9
    Society is tired of the revolutions and perestroika that bring only the deterioration of the life of the main population. But Putin and Nazarbayev promise and give stability to society; therefore, they have the support of the main population, the main thing is that this stability does not go smoothly into stagnation. For this, we need the opposition so that the authorities do not fall asleep on their laurels, but the opposition that destroys the foundations of its state and calls for revolutions, it’s not the opposition anymore, but agents of the influence of foreign states. And the fact that they are deprived of the media’s opportunities is correct, but it’s very important not to go too far, otherwise let our bureaucrats free up such a thing that they don’t need enemies.
    1. Tverichanka
      Tverichanka April 27 2013 20: 55 New
      0
      Quote: Semurg
      This is what opposition is for.

      The opposition should be constructive. What is the use of empty criticism? If I don’t understand anything in nuclear physics and undertake to criticize Any projects in this area, can I be considered the opposition? For any criticism, it’s important to know the subject and make suggestions, moreover, justified, but no, from the floundering bay. And all of our so-called opposition is doing just that. What is Sobchak a specialist in economics or in foreign policy? And there ... As they say, "Where the horse with the hoof, there’s cancer with the claw "
  • Grishka100watt
    Grishka100watt April 27 2013 11: 27 New
    +5
    By the way, if you are his fan and want to support financially, you can invite Natalya Sindeeva herself to dinner. It will cost you only 1 million rubles.


    Ahah ... ahahahah .... ahahaHAHAAAAAAA !!!!!
    I hope she has relevant information available ???
    1. smile
      smile April 27 2013 15: 00 New
      +4
      Grishka100watt
      Yeah ... whoever dines with a woman dances her ... :)))
      An expensive aunt ... probably she’s got something made of platinum there, with diamond splashes ... :))))
    2. Tverichanka
      Tverichanka April 27 2013 20: 57 New
      0
      Quote: Grishka100watt
      I hope she has relevant information available ???

      And if there are any? Are you ready to invite? ... I'm joking, I'm joking ...
      1. Grishka100watt
        Grishka100watt April 28 2013 08: 54 New
        0
        smile
        Well what are you, I'm a family man)

        Although, in my place, maybe someone would have noted that such an amount would be enough to dine countless times with women and better)
  • luka095
    luka095 April 27 2013 12: 09 New
    +3
    The article is good, the author is a plus.
    I watch the rain periodically - such a channel causes rejection. I think because continuous criticism and distortion of facts, constant repetitions of the same thing very quickly reduce interest. If you look a little more closely at how broadcasting is generally conducted, regardless of who it is, you can immediately see peremptory judgments. And this is typical of all our liberals - after all, only they have the right to the truth. After all, everyone else, in their opinion, simply does not reach their high intellectual level. There is such a smack of narcissism in their activities.
    The canal closes - the road is there. The air will be cleaner.
  • virm
    virm April 27 2013 12: 18 New
    +3
    Parfyonov is already on NTV. Leads a news release. nothing will happen to such a substance - it will always pop up.
  • Goldkonstantin
    Goldkonstantin April 27 2013 12: 42 New
    +1
    Somehow there was a moment when I watched this channel. Nonsense, in a word. Whining on one topic: everywhere thieves, bad under Putin, there is no freedom, but how good it is to live in the West! Sobchak then where it climbs with her brain? Her father would be alive, would have long ago torn out as it should.
  • varov14
    varov14 April 27 2013 12: 56 New
    +1
    “You can invite Natalya Sindeeva herself to dinner. It will cost you only 1 million rubles.” Will she show striptease there, or is the program designed for something more? Memories will remain positive or one "creative"?
  • v53993
    v53993 April 27 2013 12: 58 New
    +3
    "Silver Rain?" Is this the one that consists of 30 pieces of silver?
  • varov14
    varov14 April 27 2013 12: 58 New
    0
    “You can invite Natalya Sindeeva herself to dinner. It will cost you only 1 million rubles.” Will she show striptease there, or is the program designed for something more? Memories will remain positive or one "creative"?
  • slaventi
    slaventi April 27 2013 13: 23 New
    +2
    The fact that the rain channel crashed is a pleasant thing, but it doesn’t change much. The central channels, by and large, play the same destructive role. They focus on the so-called ratings, and rating agencies are in New York. About 80-90 percentages of negative information are reported in the news, which adversely affects people both physically and mentally, it seems that there is no worse Russia. There are certain facts to be, but in general the information is false. Many programs and shows give the impression that besides eating, neighing, it’s more nothing more is needed. Less interesting programs are delayed late. The question is how to remove the media as a whole from under external control.
    1. Tverichanka
      Tverichanka April 27 2013 21: 02 New
      0
      Quote: slaventi
      . The question is how to remove the media as a whole from under external control.

      Difficult, but achievable. And I hope that this is not far off. After a year or two for sure.
  • radio operator
    radio operator April 27 2013 13: 54 New
    +3
    Alien to us, this pro-Western "human rights."
    It’s very stinky from there - you’ll ventilate the hell.
  • Radoslav
    Radoslav April 27 2013 15: 17 New
    +1
    To drive all these political and not only political prostitutes to the west and to America, let there be raving about their masters and, first of all, Mr. Obama.
  • GreatRussia
    GreatRussia April 27 2013 15: 21 New
    +3
    Quote: Alex Nick
    It’s time to cover this viper.
  • Mirth
    Mirth April 27 2013 15: 53 New
    0
    By the way, if you are his fan and want to support financially, you can invite Natalya Sindeeva herself to dinner. It will cost you only 1 million rubles.
    Oh, what nonsense. Moscow is full of prostitutes much cheaper and prettier.
  • washi
    washi April 27 2013 16: 21 New
    +1
    I stupidly do not understand. Creative translated into Russian - creating. And who is creating with us? Sobchak? Office hamsters? Watchman of these offices? Cesspools - clearing? Name their posts in Russian and find out who organizes the processions. Where really the creators work. Restore what they ditched. Let it slowly, but recovery is underway.
    Make Universities Semi-Paid. We lack skilled workers. He proved himself in production - he entered free of charge (at the expense of the enterprise). Otchuchil already returned as an engineer.
    Introduce Stalin's education and economy. Any collective farm or enterprise could become a millionaire, and its employees receive millionth bonuses for their work and rationalization proposals. They also paid for patents. Everything was done for the development of science and production.
    1. family
      family tree April 27 2013 17: 03 New
      +1
      Quote: Vasya
      I stupidly do not understand. Creative translated into Russian - creating. And who is creating with us? Sobchak? Office hamsters? Watchman of these offices? Cesspools - clearing? Name their posts in Russian and find out who organizes the processions. Where really the creators work. Restore what they ditched. Let it slowly, but recovery is underway.
      Make Universities Semi-Paid. We lack skilled workers. He proved himself in production - he entered free of charge (at the expense of the enterprise). Otchuchil already returned as an engineer.
      Introduce Stalin's education and economy. Any collective farm or enterprise could become a millionaire, and its employees receive millionth bonuses for their work and rationalization proposals. They also paid for patents. Everything was done for the development of science and production.

      More suitable create. I immediately remembered
      when he was a puppy, he lived at home in the winter, and when he was young, when he does a big job on the floor, or bites his shoes, his wife grumbled at him all the time, saying that he had done the bastard again smile
  • Ulysses
    Ulysses April 27 2013 17: 32 New
    0
    Good article.
    Kakly without financial support from abroad were blown away, like a balloon in Siberian frost.
  • pensioner
    pensioner April 27 2013 18: 39 New
    0
    "The first issues were sponsored by the father and son of Gudkov, along with Ilya Ponomaryov, but now, apparently, this source has dried up, as Parfyonov opened a company to raise funds from viewers."

    Have you tried it on your own money? Rubber product No. 2.
  • pensioner
    pensioner April 27 2013 18: 46 New
    +1
    Quote: slaventi
    The fact that the rain channel crashed is a pleasant thing, but it does not change much. Central channels, by and large, play the same destructive role.

    I totally agree. But there are also public councils with them. Where is their work? Why are we doomed to watch stupid TV shows, pop concerts and foreign (moronic, although they have a completely different) movie ?. If there weren’t Stars and Culture, this box could have been dumped for a long time.
  • alma
    alma April 28 2013 18: 14 New
    0
    By the way, if you are his fan and want to support financially, you can invite Natalya Sindeeva herself to dinner. It will cost you only 1 million rubles.
    And to sleep with Natalia Sindeeva is already 2 million rubles.
    Joke :-) Offended please do not throw stones very much ...
  • Marek Rozny
    Marek Rozny April 28 2013 18: 45 New
    +2
    eeeh, you have soft power and people ... in Kazakhstan, the bulk of the critical mass of "oppositionists" who really smell of the State Department from their mouths has been kicked out. And where they settled first (Belgium, Britain, Switzerland, Austria) - they lobbied so that the local authorities would not let them turn around. As a result, prosecutors of Western European countries are engaged in all of our "democratic oppositionists", even harmful British people have opened criminal cases against our "white puppies" and fugitive oligarchs))))) We must be able to! ))))
  • Nyx
    Nyx 28 March 2014 17: 34 New
    0
    Quote: luka095
    The article is good, the author is a plus.
    I watch the rain periodically - such a channel causes rejection. I think because continuous criticism and distortion of facts, constant repetitions of the same thing very quickly reduce interest. If you look a little more closely at how broadcasting is generally conducted, regardless of who it is, you can immediately see peremptory judgments. And this is typical of all our liberals - after all, only they have the right to the truth. After all, everyone else, in their opinion, simply does not reach their high intellectual level. There is such a smack of narcissism in their activities.
    The canal closes - the road is there. The air will be cleaner.

    I'm sharing. I wouldn’t close it myself for reasons of freedom of speech, but I’m not going to fight for the discovery of such muck. dog death dog.