MiG-31 crashed during training

The MiG-31 interceptor fighter crashed the night before during a training flight in Kazakhstan. One of the pilots died, according to the republic’s military prosecutor’s office.

"About 22 hours 45 minutes 23 April in the area of ​​the village of Spacious in Shetsky district of Karaganda region during a training flight crashed military aircraft MiG-31 military unit 50185 of the Ministry of Defense, under the control of the pilot - part of Colonel Edigeev MO and navigator - his deputy, Major Galimzyanov RR. When the plane fell, the crew ejected, "- said in a statement.

The pilot Edigeev died on landing, his body was found by rescuers sent to the crash site. The navigator was taken to hospital, his life is not in danger.

On the fact of the catastrophe, the prosecutor's office opened a criminal case on the article "Violation of flight rules or preparation for them." The crash, according to preliminary data, was due to the failure of technology.

The crashed MiG-31, according to prosecutors, in December 2012 underwent repairs at the 514-m aircraft factory of the Russian Defense Ministry in Rzhev. After that, the plane managed to fly all 42 hours. Before the fall, the fighter made four sorties, the crash occurred after the fifth takeoff.

Recall that in October 2011, the Russian MiG-31 fighter crashed in the Perm Territory, in the area of ​​the Bolshoe Savino airfield. Fighter performed a scheduled flight. Both crew members died. No one was hurt on earth.

The year before, the MiG-31 crashed in 60 km northeast of the same airfield. Then the pilots managed to eject. Shortly before the fall, the interceptor crew reported that the car was in a corkscrew.

The MiG-31 is a double-supersonic interceptor developed in the USSR at the turn of 1970 - 1980's. The fighter of the fourth generation made the first flight of the USSR Air Force in 1982 year. The maximum speed of the fighter is 3 thousand km / h, the range without ammunition - 3,3 thousand kilometers. The maximum flight height is 20,6 thousand meters. Armament consists of 23-millimeter cannon and short-range, medium and long-range guided missiles. Combat load - 3 thous. Kg.

Comments

[Nevsky]

The blessed memory of the deceased ...

[patline]

Damn, such news is already enraging. How long to? How so - after the repair and crashed? Did you use the self-made or b / ear parts again?
Investigate and judge all those responsible, without leniency. For others to be discouraged.
And it’s also interesting, are all our service personnel, or do Kazakhs also have access to technology?

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: patline

Damn, such news is already enraging. How long to?

It is strange that someone put the article plus. What plus

[Ezhaak]

Quote: Alexander Romanov

What plus

Someone was incredibly happy with this message. Maybe.

[Bashkaus]

Why are you surprised? Of course, there were people who put the article plus. You look at how many pluses and cries of joy happens in articles when NATO planes fight.
I don’t feel sorry for cars, I feel sorry for people, especially ours (I also consider Kazakhs as ours).
Lord, have mercy on us sinners, have mercy on the dead Marat, You are one for all, regardless of religion.

[cth; fyn]

It is strange that someone put the article plus. What plus

Someone was incredibly happy with this message. Maybe.

So the pluses are put not for the liked news, but for its need and relevance for the site.

[Vanya]

Ie do not need to publish bad news?

[cth; fyn]

Ie do not need to publish bad news?

Likely, when a messenger who brought bad news at all, a poleaxe was made at all.

[Canep]

The Kazakhs are more likely to have access, it is not their business, civilian aircraft serviced by the Kazakhs and the military also do not often fall. You need to investigate and then draw conclusions.

[Mairos]

So this, as I understand it, is the board of the Kazakh Air Force. What does our staff have to do with it?

[Sgt.]

The plane belonged to the Air Force of the Republic of Kazakhstan, pilots and technical personnel are also Kazakhstani.
And what a pancake is Kazakh or Russian difference.
A military air defense pilot died.
and now we have a kind of sky in common

[Check]

I support! sorry for the guys and board

[Ascetic]

Quote: Sergeant

and now we have a kind of sky in common

It has always been with us and will be common ... Our fate is to live together like this

[Trailer]

Already the second in a week, by the way:


In the Atyrau region of Kazakhstan, a military unmanned aerial vehicle crashed. This was reported by the local edition of Ak Zhaiyk.

The incident, according to emergency services, occurred on the evening of Friday, April 19. The drone fell near the village of Balkuduk, Kurmangazinsky district. “At that time, my children grazed cattle near our village,” said local resident MP Mansur Kuanyshaliev. “They say they saw a rocket fly right above them and fall a few kilometers from them.” The rumble was quite strong, puffs of black smoke rose above the site of the explosion. ” No one was injured in the incident.

The emergency services and police, as well as the border guards arrived at the scene.

The device’s ownership is still unknown. The publication gives its description: length about 12 meters, wingspan two and a half meters. When it fell, the device fell into several parts, inscriptions in Russian, as well as painted red stars, were noticed on the wreckage.

The publication believes that the device was launched from the Russian military training ground Ashuluk, located in the Astrakhan region (which borders the Atyrau region of Kazakhstan). The emergency service, obviously, adheres to the same version: as follows from a letter from the head of the regional emergency department, O. Zhamangarin, the wreckage of the drone "will be transferred to the relevant Russian services."

There have been no official comments from the Russian side in connection with the fall of the UAV.

[Nayhas]

"The crashed MiG-31, according to the prosecutor's office, in December 2012 was repaired at the 514th aircraft plant of the Russian Defense Ministry in Rzhev." - ours, how will they repair the plane or fall or burn up on takeoff ...

[Vanek]

Do you have a car?

[Retx]

Do not focus your attention on the word "our". The check will be carried out and then there will be a result, but if these are again interrupted numbers, then this is a scribe ...

[Nayhas]

Well, the plane didn’t fall in Russia, so the likelihood that, as always, the pilot will be to blame is low.

[Mcsim]

The burnt-out TU-95 with w / n 21 also managed to fly a little after the "modernization"

[Cavalier]

Sometimes it seems that the Lord himself destroys divisions without tasks with his own hands. Like the Tu-95, so it is, and the Mig-29th, if the MO itself does not dare.

[Vanek]

Quote: Cavalier

Sometimes it seems that the Lord himself destroys divisions without tasks with his own hands.

Let him sit better without tasks than he won’t be.

[sanyabasik]

Quote: Nayhas

ours will both repair the plane or crash or burn on take-off ...

"Yours" yes, I agree, but this plane was being repaired at 514 ARZ, so "yours" have nothing to do with it ..

[tomket]

I wonder why the pilots die during the ejection? It seems, as always, it was argued that the products of the "star" are the most reliable

[Vanek]

Possibly evacuated at low altitude. "Not enough space." Until the last, they fought for the plane.

[silver_roman]

and besides, there might have been a high lateral rate of descent, crashed into some object, but considering that the aircraft was in a tailspin, there shouldn’t be a high speed idea .... we are waiting for the results of the investigation!

[Quiet]

Possibly evacuated at low altitude. "Not enough space

This is nonsense dear The catapult is triggered even in the parameters ALTITUDE -0 .. SPEED - 0 ..... The guy could be hooked by a piece of a falling plane. A similar case was at the turn of the 70s, 80s. Then the catapulted pilot chopped off a leg above the knee with a fragment of a wing. The guy blew out before reaching the ground.

My condolences to the family and friends of the pilot .....

[Vanek]

Quote: Quiet

It is a

And this rudeness dear

I also mean about the same thing. It worked. I do not argue. I have nothing to do with aviation. Therefore, I write "There was not enough space" It is in quotation marks. If you do not understand ... well, at least, do not be rude.

[VAF]

Quote: Quiet

The catapult is triggered even in the parameters ALTITUDE -0 .. SPEED - 0 ...

Quiet, respected. You are not quite right, or rather. Completely wrong!

This almost never happens, and if it does, it ends up 100% fatally, because. airplanes and helicopters with a "rupture" of the flashlight from the pyrocords can be counted on the fingers - ONCE and TWO, all other airplanes have a limitation on the speed of the head. there are fewer combat units for dropping the flashlight-nat. There are more on sparks. The start starts at 130 km / h!
The height is yes, the height is 0, the chair reaches a height of 87 meters, which ensures the full operation of the entire automation system for entering the stages of the parachute system, but ... ONLY in the HORIZONTAL FLIGHT.
there is a limitation on the vertical speed of decrease (fall) of the aircraft from 3 to 5 times (depending on the type of seat) X on M / SEC, so calculate what minimum ejection height you should have with a vertical decrease (fall) of the aircraft at least at a speed of 25 m / s.
And you say HEIGHT 0!

And especially for the Lord of Sith !!!
This is not written in the internet! How do I know that? Internet genius You are ours, together with Varnaga and Glukharskaya!
I apologize for the flood of the Silent and Moderators!

[Kaa]

Quote: vaf

The height is yes, the height is 0, the chair reaches a height of 87 meters, which ensures the full operation of the entire automation system for entering the stages of the parachute system, but ... ONLY in the HORIZONTAL FLIGHT.

Good evening! But how then did the catapult on the Su-27 work during the tragedy in Sknilovo, where Drying was at its peak and the pilots ejected, already "striking" the ground, it seems, with their wing? The video was clearly visible.

[VAF]

Quote: Kaa

But how then did the catapult on the Su-27 work during the tragedy in Sknilovo, where Drying was at its peak and the pilots ejected, already "striking" the ground, it seems, with their wing? The video was clearly visible.

Hi wise Kaa! So you answer yourself ... exactly when it struck the earth. vertical speed was no longer Toponar and Cooper catapulted.
The same Averyanov with Shendrik on the Su-30th practically when Sushka got to 0 jumped.
But Kvochur was already jumping when the MiG-29 went down and miraculously survived, it was only saved by the fact that the plane fell earlier and exploded, so it filled the parachute canopy with a blast wave, but just before touching it. land mother, and if a second later, then everything ....!
I won’t upload photos. For a very long time. But you can take a word!
I jumped from 1000 meters with a vertical under 100 m / s, the K-36DM chair, the dome entered at a height of 200 meters! These are ... pies!

[Kaa]

Quote: vaf

But Kvochur was already jumping when the MiG-29 went down and miraculously survived, it was only saved by the fact that the plane fell earlier and exploded, so it filled the parachute canopy with a blast wave, but just before touching it. land mother, and if a second later, then everything ....!

Thanks, I realized, but with Kvochur the shots were - well, just tin, I scrolled several times, until I suggested about the same

[VAF]

Quote: Kaa

With Kvochur, the shots were - well, just tin, I scrolled several times, until I suggested about the same

Well, it's easier for me, I heard so to speak firsthand!

And about 0 to 0, as Tikhiy wrote. The wildest case in our 9 IAD, when moving materiel from Smolensk to Shaikovka.
At 9-51, after starting the engines, both catapults (Kornev and Laktyushin) worked right before the taxiing .. right into the flashlight!
So far, no one has figured out!

[Kaa]

Quote: vaf

So far, no one has figured out!

"There are many things in the world, friend Horatio, that our wise men never dreamed of" - a couple of days ago we discussed the opus, where the author was choking with saliva, proving how good it is when 99% of the operations are performed on purchased second-hand Airbus and Broilers by automation, and only ours slovens in a critical situation first try to figure out what happened, and do not frantically leaf through the instructions "What to do"

[dc120mm]

See the damage, both materially and humanly. :(

[pinecone]

Sorry for the pilots. Maybe everything is not all right at this air base.
PS The training flight is more familiar than the newfangled "training".
True, they began to introduce the word "simulator" instead of a simulator.

[GreatRussia]

Trouble

The crashed MiG-31, according to prosecutors, in December 2012 underwent repairs at the 514th aircraft factory of the Ministry of Defense of Russia in Rzhev. After that, the plane managed to fly in just 42 hours. Before the fall, the fighter made four sorties, the crash occurred after the fifth take-off.

From the last:


A military aircraft in Kazakhstan could crash due to equipment failure.

Such findings were presented to the Ministry of Defense. The MiG-31 crashed late in the evening during a training flight. The pilot and navigator ejected. They were sent to a hospital.

The plane underwent scheduled repairs in December in Rzhev and managed to fly 42 hours.

An operational investigative team works on the spot.
http://rusnovosti.ru/news/258501/


If so, isn't it time to finally deal with all these "modernizers" and "remonters"?

[Uncle lee]

Sorry for the flyers ... Condolences

[silver_roman]

What a pity that the pilot died! Rest in peace.
The MiG-31 is a wonderful car, but still the years go by and probably not in vain took up the development of a new aircraft. Such frequent crashes confirm this!

[Cavalier]

for developing a new aircraft

Not needed. Su-35 with PTB and RVV-DB will cope no worse.

[silver_roman]

PTB - overweight, and therefore less speed and height.
RVV-DB - I don’t know about this. Under the MiG-31, the missile was sawn specially. So I doubt that the su-35 is generally suitable for these purposes. Maybe he can fulfill the PART of the task, but still this is not enough. This was understood in the USSR and it is understood now. Otherwise, they would not have spent money on the development of a new aircraft, but simply ordered a separate batch of su-35 separately.

[Cavalier]

Why speed? Su-35 is suitable for these purposes, if it is trained to carry PTB and give a normal RVV-DB with ARGSN, naturally. In the USSR there was a different situation - they were going to reflect the raid from the Arctic by American strategists. The probability of this scenario today is 0.0%. This will not happen, but washed down an expensive program for the construction of a couple of dozens of taskless aircraft - this is nonsense. Su-35 + AWACS - the choice of successful people.

[Primatpro]

Quote: silver_roman

probably not in vain undertook the development of a new aircraft

Of course not in vain. It’s necessary to cut the budget.
And the fact that such an aircraft has no tasks is true, little things. Cheburashka, what to take from them.

[silver_roman]

and what does "NO TASKS" mean ????
the fact that the aggressor does not invade our airspace ??? But didn’t you think why this happens and why an unmanned zone is quietly declared over Libya? maybe because Libya did not have a MiG-31 ????
As the old Chinese saying goes: "If you want peace, prepare for war!" - and that's it. While such aircraft will be on alert duty, you don't have to worry about the excessive arrogance of the foe!

[Primatpro]

Quote: silver_roman

and what does "NO TASKS" mean ????

That’s what it means. There are airplanes, and why they are needed - no one really can say. What are his tasks there. SR-71 shoot down? They were removed from armament to all horseradish. U-2 was shot down in the 60s. The rest will be handled by a bunch of A-50U and Su-27/30/35, and even miserable MiG-29s. Is the MiG-31 needed in this situation? Of course not.

[ultra]

Quote: Primatpro

And the fact that such an aircraft has no tasks is true, little things. Cheburashka, what to take from them

TROLLING-SPECIAL FORM OF MAZOCHISM IMHO!

[Mairos]

It is rather a form of sadism - a sort of brainwashing

[sanyabasik]

While there are no results of the work of the commission for the investigation of the accident, any attacks on equipment, pilots, a repair plant, Putin and Navalny are groundless.

[silver_roman]

by the way there is such an interesting otmaza: the human factor. A specialist from Antonov told us at the university that almost any reason for the crash of an aircraft can be attributed to this category. He went into a tailspin, which means the pilot went to beyond-the-limit flight modes; the wing has fallen off, which means that the technical services, repair shops, etc., have worked poorly. and so almost always. Those. the man is to blame.

[Primatpro]

Another cheburashkolet crashed without any problems. Nothing to see here, diverge.

[Cavalier]

What does it mean to diverge, and see the pictures?

[31-RUS]

There is very little information about the crash and it is premature to break spears about poor-quality repairs. A pilot is very sorry.

[volan]

Family of condolences pilot ... Don’t fall SO guys!

[Thunderbolt]

.My condolences, let the earth rest in peace.

[lelyk72]

Explain to me "After that, the plane managed to fly only 42 hours. Before the fall, the fighter made four sorties" - what is it, they do a few refueling on EACH flight ??

[lelyk72]

Explain to me, "After that, the plane managed to fly only 42 hours. Before the fall, the fighter made four sorties" is that, they make several refuelings in each flight ????

[barbiturate]

like back in the USSR, the MiG-31 was not very much loved, for the complexity of piloting and unwillingness to forgive mistakes, they even gave a nickname, such as "widow supplier", no one heard of this? Although I have no doubt that for its time, the car was simply unique and very necessary in concept and now, only newer in development and production. Sorry for the pilot, rest in peace.

[Primatpro]

Quote: barbiturate

has anyone heard of this?

I heard only about a completely different plane - the Yak-38. Yes, yes, the same yak that is on the deck * blight.

[viktorR]

The nickname was given, yes, but only to the American starfighter, not the MiG-31

[Yep]

be repaired!

[Algor73]

Maybe they "repaired", maybe the human factor, and maybe maintenance. Very little information. We must wait for the results of the official investigation. But no matter how it was, sorry for the pilot.

[Rus_87]

ASTANA, April 24 - IA News-Kazakhstan. The reason for the crash of a MiG-31 military aircraft in the Karaganda region was the failure of equipment, the press service of the Ministry of Defense of Kazakhstan said on Wednesday.

[valokordin]

It is a pity for the colonel, the disgusting statement of some "specialists" dividing their guys into ours and not ours, insultingly hinting that Kazakhs cannot fly and maintain materiel. Kazakhs know how to fly well and maintain materiel, but these resonators simply have no conscience. Pilots will never do that.

[Dmitriy85]

It is high time to buy new WEST-made aircraft. How did you buy the MTC C-295, why also they won’t buy a European fighter?

[Alibekulu]

Quote: Dmitriy85

why also do not buy a European fighter?

Dmitriy85, why not
But here and now, not the time and the place where this issue is worth discussing ..
I am sorry for the relatives, friends of the victims ...

[pensioner]

Quote: GreatRussia

Trouble

And so few of them are left, and those who know how to fly them well are probably even less so. The aviation path is dotted with the bones of pilots. No wonder they say so.

[DEfindER]

You can draw this conclusion - since they began to fall so often, it means they often began to fly. And everything would be fine if only the pilots did not die, and the pieces of iron, though expensive, but life is still the most expensive .. All this suggests that we need to revive a reliable base of those maintenance of aircraft, and high-quality training of specialists, as it was in Union ..

[Vtel]

Well, the Real Colonel! Rest in peace!

[USNik]

Sorry for the dead pilot and the best interceptor in the world. Although there are still plenty of them in stock, the loss of such a machine should still cause the most serious check, which is probably being done at the moment.

[Apollo]

My condolences to the family of the deceased pilot

[cherkas.oe]

Very sorry for the lad, the kingdom of heaven to him and the earth rest in peace, relatives and friends, sincere condolences.

[darksoul]

To the pilot, a blessed memory of the earth rest in peace .... what kind of upgrades and repairs are these ... although my friend was an aircraft mechanic ..... su-24 serviced ... I heard how they repair (((.... I hope this goes unpunished will not remain .... and the media did not skip the same .. silent ha..da

[Marek Rozny]

Last night, there was information about the Kazakh Air Force:


Major General Askar Buldeshev, deputy commander of the Republic’s Air Defense Forces, was detained in Kazakhstan. The serviceman was suspected of involvement in frauds with the repair of military equipment. Buldeshev, as noted, was responsible for the purchase and modernization of weapons (including the fleet).

What specific abuse he is charged with is still unknown.

In January, we recall, it became known about the detention of another high-ranking military man - the head of the armaments department, Major General Almaz Assenov. The arrest was also reported by the KTK channel. As noted, "multimillion-dollar contracts" passed through Buldeshev, he was suspected of receiving a bribe in the amount of 200 thousand dollars.

Later it turned out that in Kazakhstan, two Ukrainians were also detained - employees of the state-owned company Ukrspetsexport, suspected of bribing a certain official (the media called the same amount of the alleged bribe - 200 thousand dollars). It was reported that in this way they tried to get help in the implementation of contracts. The detainees were accused of bribery, they were assigned a preventive measure in the form of arrest.

In the company "Ukrspetsexport", as reported by "Glavkom" in February, they refused to disclose information about the reason for the detention of employees.

The Prosecutor General of Kazakhstan Askhat Daulbaev, in turn, said that representatives of the generals of the Armed Forces of Kazakhstan received bribes from representatives of Ukrspetsexport for the repair of military aircraft. Frauds, he said, were also revealed in the case of the repair of the An-72 aircraft of the Kazakhstan border service, which subsequently - in December 2012 - crashed near Shymkent.

In early April, it was reported that the criminal case involving Almaz Assenov ("on the fact of receiving bribes from representatives of a foreign company for lobbying its interests in the procurement of work related to the modernization of weapons and military equipment") is nearing completion.

http://www.lenta.ru/news/2013/04/24/detain1/

[Marek Rozny]

When there were kickbacks with the Israelis, ours planted both a Kazakh and a Jew. When there was a rollback with the Ukrainians, both the Kazakh and the Ukrainians were arrested. Logically, now we have to blame (in addition to the detained deputy head of the Air Force) someone from a Russian company that carried out poor-quality repairs of Kazakhstani aircraft.

[Alibekulu]

Here, I think, in connection with this plane crash, it is necessary to mention the statement of Lazar Moiseevich Kaganovich when he only became the People's Commissar of Railways.
In his first speech, he announced that the main thing in transport was safety, and at the same time Each accident, each crash has a surname, name and patronymic.

Kaganovich demanded to identify the culprits, and to report to him personally, and to stop all talk about the common fault of a railway. For each fact of the accident, theft and mismanagement began to be examined personally, which had the result, but not with punishments by a single commissar he pulled the failed industry into the forefront.

[Alibekulu]

At the same time, the role of Lazarus in the implementation of terror cannot but cause a dumbbell. He signed the execution lists after Stalin, and went to places (in particular, to the Ivanovo and Yaroslavl regions), and handed over the employees. He even sacrificed his own brother, thereby bringing him to the party ...