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Children is our future? Part of 3.

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Good day, dear reader! Today, as I promised, in my third article I will talk about another problem of young people: TV and computer. But, before I digress a little: in the last article, the user under the nickname Garrin said: "It’s not clear just why the most important and terrible problem, drug addiction, is not affected." I will say right away: the man said correctly, and now I will sort this problem out.


Children is our future? Part of 3.


Unfortunately, I have no information about the use of "hard" drugs among young people, but I can tell you a little about spice and nasvay (saturate us, nat, nose, ice, nats). First of all, let's look at what is what. Spice is a synthetic smoking mixture. Not to say that it is so popular in my city, but I more and more often see the advertisement "Spice. Smoke. 8 - *** - *** - ** - **"

Now we go to us. He is more "popular." First of all, let me say what nasvay is: a kind of smokeless tobacco product. Usually used to create it bird (chicken) droppings, ash (for viscosity) and, in fact, tobacco. With this, I am not afraid of the word, shit, people are "thrown about." But since the main audience of this site belonged to the 20-35 youth ages ago (please don't take offense), I will write in a more human language. "Nasvay is laid under the lower or upper lip or under the tongue and kept there waiting for the effect. Swallowed saliva with dissolved nasal can cause nausea, vomiting and diarrhea" - taken from Wikipedia. Since tobacco is part of nasvay, it develops nicotine addiction.

Now tell history from life: my former classmate, let's call him Mr. X went to college. I will not tell you what is going on there (in my opinion, the horror), but they use nasvay. On the first day he was offered a "throw", but he refused. And just recently, a friend of mine approached me at school with the question: "Do you want to drop?" Politely having gone to the known sexual organ, he now does not offer it to me. Sad is not it?

Well, it was an addition to the previous article, now let's move on to the main information.

Episode l. Computer.

Well, where to start? To begin with, our young people love to play it. In slang, this is called "zadroit", and the one who plays, respectively, "zadrot". Among the favorite games of "zadrotov" there are Warcraft (Vova), Dota 2 (DotA, DotA for zadrota) and further on the list. Everyone sits differently. For example, 2-3 is enough for me an hour a day and in 2 for a month this game stupidly bothers me, I lose all interest in it. And for others, the game is everything; you cannot live without it.



And already follows such a thing as "game addiction." "Game addiction is a form of psychological dependence, manifested in the obsessive passion for video games and computer games," says Wikipedia. The computer has become an integral part of our life, but still we need to do something about it. I, as an inexperienced person, want to ask you, readers, what to do? You need to do something about it ....



Episode ll. Television.

And now let's talk from the TV. Although I think it is better to call it "box with morons." On modern TV there are not very many really interesting and informative programs. But there are more than enough similar ones ... What only the "2 House" or "Vacations in Mexico" cost? ... Sometimes you want to take and throw this box out the window.



And what are the American cartoons of Disney channel? And not only cartoons, but the same series? Tolerance is massively propagandized (they say, black and white are friends), the American way of life, and so on. Dumb humor and abounds. Long-known fact: off-screen humor "dulls" the person.

Want an interesting fact? The cartoon "SpongeBob" was originally created for the mentally retarded, but it is shown to ordinary children.

Or let us turn to the TNT and STS TV series. Completely foreign creators and producers. It is not surprising that the topic of sex, vulgarity and the like is constantly revolving.

Also on our television there are very few domestic cartoons, those cartoons that would teach kindness, compassion, and others. Already a legend “Tom and Jerry” cartoon, but psychologists are sounding the alarm: you can't watch children! Because there are often scenes of violence, cruelty, and the cats look very "nothing". But the question may arise: what about “Well, wait!”? There are also not very good scenes, for example, the Wolf smokes. I answer: Wolf is the main antagonist of this cartoon. Children already understand this, therefore the child already understands that smoking is bad.



And what to watch and what to do with our children?
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  1. biglow
    biglow April 23 2013 12: 50 New
    21
    And what to watch and what to do with our children?
    teach children to read books and they will be happy smile
    1. Genoezec
      Genoezec April 23 2013 15: 13 New
      +8
      In my opinion, part of Russia's future will disappear without reading. By the way, he was terribly carried away by computer games, tired of it only after 2 years
      1. Civil
        Civil April 23 2013 15: 17 New
        -14
        Children are like children .. why touch them
    2. Uncle lee
      Uncle lee April 23 2013 15: 22 New
      13
      And now there are such books:?

      If the way is cut through with his father's sword
      You are wound with salty tears,
      If in a hot fight I experienced that how much-
      So, you read the necessary books as a child!
      1. biglow
        biglow April 23 2013 15: 34 New
        +3
        Quote: Uncle Lee
        And now there are such books:?

        read the classics, new is well forgotten old
    3. Melchakov
      Melchakov April 23 2013 15: 24 New
      +6
      What to do, what to do? Parents will have children, here's what to do. And they’re used to blaming the authorities for everything, but they don’t do it.
      1. Armata
        Armata April 23 2013 18: 23 New
        +7
        And who of you tried in 13 years to force your son to read? We read it, and now the books have been replaced by the Internet, TV and playstation. So fasten men, through 5, we’ll get that children get boots and are captured, and then we will protect what remains of the Motherland
        1. Egoza
          Egoza April 23 2013 19: 26 New
          +1
          Quote: Mechanic
          And who of you tried in 13 years to force your son to read?

          And you try to sit nearby and read out at least a couple of interesting fragments from the book, and then say: "I recommend, very interesting." And a little later, ask whether his son was interested, “yes” - why, “no” - especially why. Cool to find? Yes easily! Yes, it’s not always a classic, but there is a lot of fiction and patriotic at the same time, all sorts of adventures. Start with what's interesting, then you won’t tear it away from reading!
          By the way, offhand - The collection "Our cause is right" (N. Perumov, V. Kamsha, E. and S. Ratkevich) or S. Sadov "Prince Voldemar Starinov" - a great thing, with wars, fights, the need for knowledge and so on.
          1. Armata
            Armata April 23 2013 20: 03 New
            +3
            Quote: Egoza
            Yes easily! Yes, it’s not always a classic, but there is a lot of fiction and patriotic at the same time, all sorts of adventures. Start with what's interesting, then you won’t tear it away from reading!
            By the way, offhand - The collection "Our cause is right" (N. Perumov, V. Kamsha, E. and S. Ratkevich) or S. Sadov "Prince Voldemar Starinov" - a great thing, with wars, fights, the need for knowledge and so on.
            I tried, but better than Ks with friends and with “dad give your headphones there the sound is so cool” This is an Internet generation and there’s nothing to be done about it. On Friday, he got sick so as not to go to school, but when he found out that he would be in a bed, and not in a computer, he recovered in one fell swoop.
          2. DeerIvanovich
            DeerIvanovich April 23 2013 20: 14 New
            +3
            nevertheless, the writers of the Soviet period wrote remarkably: Kir Bulychev, at least let me read it, he will not tear it off.
            Drivers of frigates I remember there was a good book, a trilogy about midshipmen ... well, and much more.
            similar children will read.
          3. matross
            matross April 23 2013 20: 53 New
            +1
            Quote: Egoza
            And you try to sit nearby and read out at least a couple of interesting fragments from the book, and then say: "I recommend, very interesting."

            It might work, but years before 10, not older. Then the parents are not credible. The problem is that parents do not read books. Absolutely. Remember each of your friends, only honestly. And 20 years ago? Disaster, damn it. sad
        2. bezumnyiPIT
          bezumnyiPIT April 23 2013 20: 03 New
          +1
          At the age of thirteen I re-read all Jules Verne. It’s just necessary to bring up the child from time to time
        3. DeerIvanovich
          DeerIvanovich April 23 2013 20: 11 New
          0
          why suddenly starter? smile
        4. Setrac
          Setrac April 23 2013 21: 29 New
          +1
          Quote: Mechanic
          And who of you tried in 13 years to force your son to read? We read it, and now the books have been replaced by the Internet, TV and playstation. So fasten men, through 5, we’ll get that children get boots and are captured, and then we will protect what remains of the Motherland

          You are mistaken, you used to read far from everything, and not so willingly. Buy your son an e-book, set an example (your own).
  2. Serov
    Serov April 23 2013 15: 22 New
    +7
    On a zombie box, you can often spin scientific, educational, historical and culture-enhancing programs.
  3. Ak 12
    Ak 12 April 23 2013 15: 23 New
    -1
    At the expense of the so-called Naysov Natsov and other things .. on this, in our city every third stall sells this garbage and so openly
  4. Ak 12
    Ak 12 April 23 2013 15: 27 New
    +2
    Quote: Civil
    Children are like children .. why touch them

    so if they are not controlled, they will raise a hand on their parents
  5. Ak 12
    Ak 12 April 23 2013 15: 28 New
    +1
    and on TV for children some zapodnye cartoon that corrode the brain of the young generation
    1. bezumnyiPIT
      bezumnyiPIT April 23 2013 20: 04 New
      +2
      Judging by your grammar, you are very addicted to TV
  6. Manager
    Manager April 23 2013 15: 31 New
    +5
    Yes, that children. My wife left my neighbor due to the fact that he was 38 years old at .... ok, he played in tanks before work and after work, not to mention the weekend. And addicted to his 8 year old son.
    Yes, and on the site advertising World of Tanks. I am sure that 15 percent or more of the site also play. Therefore, from the very beginning we need to set an example. Show that there is a substance more interesting and correct.
    1. Setrac
      Setrac April 23 2013 15: 35 New
      +3
      Millions of people play in the World of Tanks, the main thing to know is the measure. I also play this game, the main thing here is not to put the game in front of the family.
      1. Manager
        Manager April 23 2013 15: 57 New
        +5
        Quote: Setrac
        Millions of people play in the World of Tanks, the main thing to know is the measure. I also play this game, the main thing here is not to put the game in front of the family.


        An adult man needs to work, raise children and ..... his wife and generally spend time with his family outside working hours. No offense, but for example I don’t even have 1 hour a day to play since I started a family. And knowing the online game, there is no measure. All swing, etc. And an hour a day you can’t do.

        In general, the main problem of children is not a computer, but the Internet exactly! Disconnect your child from the Internet and he will not play for more than 2 hours, nor will he communicate online with nerds and, accordingly, he will not be pulled anywhere.
        1. Setrac
          Setrac April 23 2013 16: 09 New
          +1
          So I say - a measure is needed. I also have an hour and a half a day. And before the wedding, he could spend 6-7 hours a day on the game.
          True, then there was no world of tanks.
          1. Manager
            Manager April 23 2013 16: 18 New
            +2
            Quote: Setrac
            True, then there was no world of tanks.


            There was a counter strike, as I remember now) Then he also played about 8 years ago.
            1. Setrac
              Setrac April 23 2013 17: 03 New
              +1
              Quote: Manager
              There was a counter strike, as I remember now) Then he also played about 8 years ago.

              Contra and now there, I played in Warcraft3 The Frozen Throne /
          2. matross
            matross April 23 2013 20: 59 New
            +3
            Quote: Setrac
            And before the wedding on 6-7 hours a day could spend on the game.

            It’s strange that the wedding generally took place laughing
            Sorry, could not resist
            1. Setrac
              Setrac April 23 2013 21: 26 New
              +2
              Quote: matRoss
              It’s strange that the wedding generally took place
              Sorry, could not resist

              As one cinema judge said
              "- I knew you would say that!"
        2. bezumnyiPIT
          bezumnyiPIT April 23 2013 20: 06 New
          0
          Set an example for your child - do not use the Internet then
  7. datur
    datur April 23 2013 15: 31 New
    +3
    1st served - handsome-- wink 2nd - I'm already afraid
  8. Melchakov
    Melchakov April 23 2013 15: 41 New
    0
    ... Nickelodeon still allied with Jetiks, and the freak regiments unfolded in battle order. Piglet didn’t see this anymore, the flipped side did not leave him any chances, and only his friend’s thick paw kept him in this world.

    “Vinnie,” he asked suddenly, “are we really English?”

    “By birth,” the teddy bear replied gloomily. - Only by birth.

    - I have checkered pants. I guess I'm a Scotsman. - Blood sharpened on the side with a thin stream and said Piglet quieter.

    “Of course, a Scot.” They are the most staunch warriors! - Winnie unsuccessfully tried to swallow a lump that got up in his throat. “I always suspected you were Mac Pyatak!”

    - No .. O`Piglet. It’s more correct ... and more beautiful ... O`Piglet enters the battle ... You’ll write ... - Piglet exhaled noisily. And did not breathe.

    - Oh, Piglet ... - The teddy bear froze, afraid to disturb his friend. Time just stopped, sounds and smells disappeared, the whole world disappeared. Vinnie himself, tired of this hopeless war, also disappeared, and it seemed to him that a warrior in checkered pants waved his paw of a small stature ahead of him, and he had to catch up with him, say that he was back, because this was a terrible mistake, and O` Piglet is rather an Irish surname ...

    * * *

    Carlson was sitting in a tree and desperately cold. The morning cold made its way to the bones, but the scout preferred a dozen anti-personnel grenades to a set of warm clothes - the weight is the same, but the benefits are greater. It was unrealistic to fly across the front line during the day - the proliferating freaks had four machine guns. Therefore, Carlson covered himself with goose bumps, wiped his nose, looked around grimly, but did not move. The transport was late.

    - And-and-and, brazza! Onion, onion, chiariz anising strange! - A couple of rare monsters got out of the undergrowth. They proudly called themselves beavers, but Carlson, even after meeting Aibolit, could not imagine how something similar could be created from a beaver.

    Oh, damn it! emergency chocolate wrapper dropped out of pocket!

    There was no time to wait, reinforcements could come at any moment, and Carlson striking a button on his stomach, rushed to the attack. Having laid a bend, he instantly reassured this quick-witted, and turned to the second, but he was not easy. This semblance of a beaver was already standing by a tree with a “Stinger” on his shoulder, there was no way to dodge, and Carlson rushed to a steep peak, only wanting to get closer so that the freak was hit by fragments.

    The thug panicked, dropped his weapon and subtly screamed in horror - the face of Carlson falling on him was a warped mask of righteous anger.

    - Catch the bun, starve! - Carlson threw four grenades at the exercises, covering the target with a square, and tried to get out of the peak. The attempt was successful, the peak turned into a shaving flight over the edge of the swamp. Explosions hooted behind me (there is one more, a thought flickered), and something small and heavy with a metal thud blew on the main rotor, Carlson was pulled, and he crashed into the swamp at full speed, raising a spray fountain. “They're lying about their splinter,” the flyer managed to think, after which his thoughts ended.
    1. Melchakov
      Melchakov April 23 2013 15: 42 New
      0
      A quiet marsh current along the coast attracted a hefty mossy log. Sometimes a pair of tenacious golden eyes came off this log, after which the course was adjusted. Finally, the log stopped and opened a toothy mouth, from which Cheburashka busily climbed out. According to the hanging disguise, the fluffy baby climbed onto the crocodile’s head, took off huge canned glasses, took out the plugs from his ears and looked around.

      - Oh, green, for some reason I don’t see him. Are you really late?

      - Not. Everything is on schedule. A minute before the control time - just to get to the shore.

      - Then they moved. Just come on, not directly, but along the woo-o-o-he of those reeds. Somehow they are perceived strange.

      Gene silently earned a tail and paws. At the exits, he never argued with Cheburashka. Big, sensitive ears, sharp vision at any time of the day, common sense - all this made the small animal a leader. In the camp, Cheburashka was stewing, hiding in a tent and doing some petty things, occasionally choosing to warm himself around the fire and listen to Gene singing.

      Upon closer inspection, the embrace turned into a whole glade, at the end of which friends saw a familiar plump figure lying prone.

      Carlson was alive, but unconscious.

      - Right now, right now we are him, - "Comrade Che" quickly pulled out a first-aid kit from a small backpack. - So, glucose, adrenaline, vein ... Done. Observe, Gene, time - in fifteen seconds it will rise.

      Carlson opened his muddy eyes. Then he moved his swollen, broken lips, spitting up every minute:

      - More glucose. Che, give me some more ...

      - Enough. We still have to swim back.

      - Do not be afraid, I have one hundred thousand packs of glucose in NZ, I would have the strength to get to it.

      - As for the Base, as for the NZ - all one shove. So it’s better to go directly to the base. Yes, and the commander is waiting. Gene, diving under it, I don’t have enough strength to drag such a carcass upstairs.

      - Diving ... Am I a submarine? grumbled the crocodile, pulling Carlson's moaning deeper.

      “No,” Cheburashka answered quite seriously. “You are much better than any submarine.” I would not trade you for a hundred thousand submarines.

      Then he laid comfortably on Carlson, who again fell into oblivion, and covered him with a camouflage net. And the whole way back he held his hand, afraid to miss a pulse.
      1. Melchakov
        Melchakov April 23 2013 15: 43 New
        +1
        A thinly tinted pencil tapped the map, drawing attention.

        - The enemy went to the line of the Swamp of Yagishny - Romashkovo - Prostokvashino - Enchanted forest. There is a danger of invading the Jungle and the North. Paravozik defended himself for a long time, but in the end he was forced to retreat to Romashkovo itself. Prostokvashino was under flank threat and I propose to leave him.

        The kid raised his head and looked around the audience with a cold look. It seems that the color of the eyes has not changed, it is still the same blue - but now instead of the summer sky there was aurora borealis, cold and merciless.

        - I do not agree. - Uncle Fedor immediately responded from a far corner. - I will not leave Prostokvashino.

        “Disobeying orders?” - The look of the baby was heavy. - Wartime, you know ...

        “What difference does it make to me where to lie?” - answered Uncle Fedor. “I have nowhere to retreat.”

        “It’s you, Uncle Fedor, you’re saying correctly,” the striped Matroskin came up to his side, “we cannot leave Prostokvashino.” There it’s still like a chip, and we’ll leave - that's it, we won’t take it back.

        - Okay, Sharik - of course, with the team, and you, Pechkin, why are you silent? Will you be heroic too?

        - So the enemies are the first thing that they will take? Bridges, banks, mail. How do I give them the mail myself? No, I'm in Prostokvashino, there will be handy there on the hill.

        Then the Kid noticed that Pechkin was unusually calm and severe, a peakless cap on his head, and a clean-necked vest peeping out of the open gate.

        “Well, why is that?” - The commander gestured to a peakless visor.

        “Yes, you just don’t know, commander,” Uncle Fedor laughed. “Pechkin mumbled in the Marine Corps, but was decommissioned by injury.” Everything is fine, everything is right. Well, say something else?

        - If you decide, hold on tight. Against you Fat Louis with dad and the whole family. And Arnold. Can I count on you? If you hold out even at least in the evening, I can transfer reinforcements to the Enchanted Forest, they have very bad conditions there.

        - Absolutely? - Squinted Uncle Fedor, - Did the Owl send a dispatch?

        “Absolutely.” - The kid walked along the table with a map. - Piglet put, Vinnie is wounded, Ia is wounded, okay, at least it’s easy. Carlson personally flew.

        - Got it. Will you let the volunteers go with me?

        - Where to put you, take it. But no more than three, otherwise I know you - entice all the personnel! - The kid already knew who these volunteers were.

        - Then we went. Go ahead, guard, we still have to dig trenches. Perseus, Theseus, Jason - do not worry, eh?

        “Tse,” the voice said, Theseus seems. - I once went to the Minotaur - I was not afraid. Let's go already.
        1. Melchakov
          Melchakov April 23 2013 15: 43 New
          +5
          The Mysterious Forest covered the evening, and the closer the night came, the quieter it became in the war.

          “I don’t understand,” said Winnie the Pooh, regularly applying himself to the flask. “Rabbit, you're smart, tell me what’s going on.”

          “War,” Rabbit shrugged. - War never ends. Etc.

          Rabbit's ears drooped dumbly from the slots in his helmet, his glasses bent once again, a long scratch flashed on his cheek, and his camouflage was in such rags as if he had been torn by a pack of dogs. Although in fact, there was a flock of some barking mutants, but they could be called dogs only in drug delirium.

          “And yet I do not understand.” Look, we are English, Carlson is a Swede, Mowgli you can’t make out, but let him be an Indian. Theseus is generally Greek. And their platoon is recruited there, the heroes of Hellas. Gerda is a Danish, Chippolino is Italian, and Pinocchio, they also speak half from there. - Winnie was silent for a second, again wetting his throat. - How did it happen that we are fighting in Russia?

          “Do you dislike something?” - The rabbit tried to portray the question with his ears, but there was already not enough strength. - And how did you not see the Russians fighting? With me, Baba Yaga lowered a plasticine crow into a squad of transformers in her swamp - I thought I would turn gray. They while they drove away half the detachment laid. And then she will turn into a crow, then into a dog, then into a cow. And you won’t get anywhere. Have you ever seen a dog the size of a cow? And the two of the casket? Where else have you seen such saboteurs? And how did the Gray Wolf fight? He alone kept half of the North!

          - Yes, I’m not talking about how cool you are - Winnie handed his friend a flask and watched with emotion as he quenches his thirst. “I want to understand why it’s not disgusting to fight with relatives myself.” Did you see them today?

          - Saw. - The rabbit laughed shortly. “I just didn’t understand something, is this stupid troublesome gardener my relative?” And this one, in a striped swimsuit, is a relative of O’ Piglet? Rave. Than such relatives, it is better to be an orphan.

          - Yeah. "Gee! ..." - mocked Winnie the Pooh. Imagine what the Hellenes felt like. Are these their gods? And this is Hercules? In Hades, everyone! Perseus still can not calm down, everything is rushing under the cover of night to attack.

          Both still once attached to the flask.

          “I don’t understand one thing,” the little bear said slowly, staring into the fire. - Will there be reinforcements? How many years have we been fighting, eh? You look - the kid is already fifty dollars soon, we, too, are no longer little boys, even Uncle Fedorou - and he is over thirty. Where are the reinforcements? Who will replace us?

          The rabbit was silent and also avoided meeting the bear’s eyes.

          - But what names were ... Okay, I will not say anything about the center. And remember Armenfilm? Kievnauchfilm? Sverdlovsk? Leningrad? Tallinn? Where are they? Where is the help? Are we all that stands in the way of serial mutants?

          - That's all for now. - shortly approached the Kid coming up to the fire. “All hope is that those whom we defended all this time will continue to call us to themselves.” So that we protect their children. While they remember us - we are in the ranks. While our name is, we will fight.
          1. Marat-sp
            Marat-sp April 23 2013 18: 13 New
            +2
            Wonderful story
          2. Mikhail3
            Mikhail3 April 23 2013 18: 45 New
            +1
            Wow! I would only post it separately.
            1. Melchakov
              Melchakov April 23 2013 19: 29 New
              +1
              Quote: Mikhail3
              Wow! I would only post it separately.

              Quote: Marat-Sp
              Wonderful story

              This, so to speak, is not entirely mine. The source is now not found.
              1. matross
                matross April 23 2013 21: 09 New
                +1
                Well, not yours, so not yours. I liked it anyway good
                And who is minus something incomprehensible?
  9. xmike
    xmike April 23 2013 15: 47 New
    +4
    I shake my "Tales of Pushkin" and "Soyuzmultfilm";)
    1. Egoza
      Egoza April 23 2013 20: 15 New
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      Quote: xmike
      I shake my "Tales of Pushkin" and "Soyuzmultfilm";)

      Very correct! By the way, do you know that in its positive energy and positive influence, the poem “At the Lukomorye green oak” is equal to the prayer “Our Father”? More Pushkin !!! A genius for all time!
  10. cyclist
    cyclist April 23 2013 15: 48 New
    +3
    Pepsi generation, our state does not set itself the goal of limiting brainwashing or introducing censorship, all the same it is beneficial for someone, if everything is so bad then everyone’s future choice
  11. pink
    pink April 23 2013 15: 50 New
    13
    The ancient sages said: “Why conquer the state for your descendants with the help of the army? Send your teachers there to teach his children, and in several generations, without bloodshed, this state will kneel before your children.” This is happening in Russia now.
  12. gabs
    gabs April 23 2013 16: 00 New
    +2
    my friend got divorced because of the game, by the way he played in the World of Tanks advertised here.
    1. Manager
      Manager April 23 2013 16: 08 New
      +1
      My neighbor last week lost his wife and son (left him) for the same reason. This one ... sits drinking beer and continues to play.
      1. Raphael_83
        Raphael_83 April 24 2013 19: 54 New
        0
        There are enough hoops in all areas of life and Network / online games are no exception. I myself have been playing since I was 8 years old (the Spectrum was still the first, as I remember now), but I didn’t have enough to do it ... And now I play, but not on the Web, but strictly offline - it’s important for me not just to stupidly kill time to completely pointless pumping, and to enjoy pleasant music, good gameplay, especially the plot - my favorite RPG genre, besides, playing global economic and political simulations I continue to improve myself: the other day I played the game in “Europe 3” and I was happy to find and I re-read everything on the Web that I could about the odyssey of the famous research corvettes “Busol”, “Astrolabe” and “Zele” - I go to visit a friend on the weekend, where I can tell his 10-year-old son, captivate, interest, and let his friend understand in which direction to work.
        From 13 to 15 years old I completely re-read all of Fenimore Cooper, Mine Reed, Jules Verne, Emilio Salgari, Alexander Dumas - something in samizdat, something my grandmother got through communications in Moscow. And no one forced me - it was interesting, I wanted to learn something, to dream up (especially when Ineta was not there at all, and the schedule didn’t turn the language like that). And now I continue to read and attach all the acquaintances / relatives as far as possible.
        So I won’t speak for everyone, I repeat: nerds are flawed people who need help and not necessarily in a prohibitive way. hi
  13. sys-1985
    sys-1985 April 23 2013 16: 07 New
    +1
    You need to share your time and knowledge with your children.
  14. Renat
    Renat April 23 2013 16: 50 New
    +4
    You know, as soon as it got warm, a lot of kids poured out into the courtyards. The first feeling is that they have turned off or simply not electricity. Nah, everything's fine. Already the soul rejoiced. I remembered my childhood. All is not lost. Children are able to enjoy a warm day and a ball, one for all.
  15. Sevastopol
    Sevastopol April 23 2013 18: 36 New
    +1
    Episode ll. Television.

    Do you think young people are watching TV? In my opinion, among young people, those who watch television (with the exception of sports, perhaps) are now considered idiots and orthodox. For me, so television will die out soon, well, or finally go by the wayside, turning into a frolic for a small audience of fans.

    Well, it makes no sense to blame the children. That's why parents are needed to bring them up normally. I know many passionate very talented children and teenagers. They are not dumber than us at least.
  16. Mikhail3
    Mikhail3 April 23 2013 19: 07 New
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    I’ll say about computer games. There was such a game - “Blade of Darkness”. For its passage, it was necessary to consistently learn all new, more complicated with each level combinations on the keyboard, in the end for both hands. No hand-to-hand training smile but fine motor skills improved and noticeably. Anyone who started playing a long time ago can remember such games ... and so what?
    They disappeared. They were popular, they brought tangible money ... disappeared. How is the game built now? Any game written in any country (partially except Russia)? They are made so that a person does not learn anything. Diligently, one can say fanatically, all computer games in the world are filed so that a person does not take out any skills from them. And why? Why do people get divorced from their wives and get divorced for tangible money in order to dart into dummies?
    Nothing complicated. Games offer a surrogate for development, instead of real development. That is, a person (who tightly associates himself with his own Persian, even if this Persian is a tank garage) is growing. As if going forward ... by collecting nishtyakov. "I improved the gun." Did you learn to shoot? Have you improved any skills? Have you advanced in self-discipline? Not. That man himself collapsed a little bit more, but ... scored phantom money for a painted gun. Such a “development” is immeasurably lighter than real development, self-development of a person. But for the psyche, it ... is almost indistinguishable! A man turns into garbage, and his deceived brain sings reassuringly - everything is fine ... everything is fine ... I bought a new cannon! And “cruel reality”, stuffing the nostrils into the ground with the hands of gopniks (whom the girls from my class would have chased with school aprons on the walls, before these “criminals” are miserable, weak and helpless) or simply reminding him that there are no real successes, only presses our “gunner” to his favorite game even more. Because there he has a chance for a gun! There he "develops"!
    Destruction of people is progressing. And too fast, too full, too scary impact, so I believe that it is accidental.
    1. Setrac
      Setrac April 23 2013 21: 58 New
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      Dear Michael3, you apparently did not play computer games seriously. Take the same World of Tanks, since they started talking about it, at least it teaches discipline, team play, develop thinking (this can be said about almost any game). The player in the world of tanks knows how to knock out a tank. A sucker, he is a sucker, regardless of whether he plays computer games or not, and the gopot will not lag behind him, regardless of whether he plays the world of tanks or not. The same sport is far from being as meaningful as some say here, how much sense is there in pumping out dust from a pear? Football, volleyball, basketball - they make less sense than in some computer games. It’s ridiculous to talk about such a sport as sports flooring - curling. The counter-strike player is a ready-made fighter for action in the city.
      I have been playing Warcraft3 Ice Throne for many years (this is a strategy) and I understood the simple rules in order to win you need to know what the enemy is doing, intelligence first of all, in addition you need to guess what the enemy WILL do.
      Of course, for every useful game there are dozens of meaningless, useless, what is called chewing gum for the brain, but the same can be said about books, not all books are worth the paper on which they are printed.
      1. Mikhail3
        Mikhail3 April 24 2013 10: 24 New
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        Seriously winked And you download the same Blade and go through it at the highest level, for example, for a gnome. However, this is by the way. I have to disappoint you. If you try to apply the skills of a "team game" of tanks in real life, you will find that it is not they. Not the ability to work as a team. As for discipline ... well, if a person was not taught any discipline at all, never and nothing, then acquired with the help of tanks can be called so. But actually ... And, most importantly. No, the player does NOT know how to knock out a tank. Excuse me ...
        About the "meaningfulness" of the sport. I am sure that in the movies you have repeatedly seen how sweaty, waist-high men (like in toys. These people NEVER work with a naked torso) frantically hammer with a hammer over a hot piece of metal. Tell me, is a piece of metal useful in the ability to withstand temperature loads and hammer blows in a hot state? No, not at all useful. In their life, the life of the sword, they will not encounter such loads. But only if you do not expose the metal to these "meaningless and useless" loads, it will not become a sword. Never.
        About your beloved "world." Do you know how much information a person receives using text? And with the help of the rest of the senses? No, you do not get the ability to predict human actions in reality. For many years you have gained the ability to predict the actions of 5% of the human psyche in the face of changing 8-15 factors. At least 50 factors influence the simplest, most elementary situation in life, and people there are represented in their entirety, and not five percent. You have learned to fight with your left toe with an adversary who is tied like you, having the ability to use only the same toe.
        Training and the formation of a person brings results only when training situations are many times more difficult than workers. For example, in life you do not have to run at the speed of a master of sports in competitions. Enough and less speed. But if he learned instead of running to walk a distance of three meters, each time resting after a week of training ...
        1. Setrac
          Setrac April 24 2013 13: 57 New
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          Discipline is also a discipline in Africa, even in the world of tanks, even in a real army, the game is even more difficult, you have nowhere to go in the army, and you must become disciplined in the game. A sport of high achievement is generally VERY harmful. But in a sense, you are right, the game is not a bad job as a learning tool.
  17. darksoul
    darksoul April 23 2013 20: 21 New
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    Sport should be carried away by youth and examples of the older generation .... children are essentially not to blame for anything, as a rule parents do not have enough time and society imposes values ​​on children. I think that computer games are one of the types of drug addiction .... look at what happens in the west with more avid computer fans ... they sit and play games ... then they get up and take up arms and go on to play further at schools and movie theaters. I’m doing paintball myself and I’m interested in my son, it’s better to shoot at living people, to pour out everything that has accumulated, and then to sit in a friendly company to discuss who is who and how, and not to spend the whole day at the computer sitting the mouse tormenting to nervous breakdowns
  18. Uncle
    Uncle April 23 2013 20: 37 New
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    He showed his daughter, 13 years old, cried ... \
  19. Rinat
    Rinat April 23 2013 21: 02 New
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    I am 17 years old, sitting at the computer for about 3-4 hours, mostly looking for new films and books on IMHONet, a third of the time I read the news here.
    Among my acquaintances, there are practically no computer nerds, most boxers and wrestlers, but here they all throw nasvay ... I also tried, but after the first time I was sick, never tried again.
    The only reason we (children) spend a lot of time at the computer is because there’s nothing to do, but since I live in a remote part of the city, there will always be work at home, but I won’t know how children cope in the city center ... therefore and sit a lot at the computer ...
    1. Mikhail3
      Mikhail3 April 23 2013 21: 36 New
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      Rinat, compared to my 17 years, you are among the treasures. You’re right now in Ali Baba’s cave, and Ali has successfully fallen far away ... Damn ... With a minimal desire, you can now find techniques, descriptions, techniques and tools to become literally anyone.
      Now you are infinitely efficient and almost absolutely plastic - piss yourself off what you want! Here, in fact, there is only one secret - in fact, a person cannot be taught. Nothing can be taught, in general. A person can exclusively learn. Do you understand? Only you yourself! But here you are almost omnipotent for yourself. Want to be a scary fighter? Be! It is possible. Do you want - an all-knowing wise guy? And you can do it! And you can become a universal - the knowledge and skills of an engineer (not a modern stupid draftsman of pictures, but the real one - like Cyres Smith), the strength and combat skills of a front-line reconnaissance officer of the Second World War (Schwarz and I didn’t have time to squeak with you), sensitive, beautiful fingers of the master ... it is also possible! Choose your path - and go. Follow it all the time, you have the main thing - the information sea, in which there is everything. True, it also has a lot of lies. And this is good! Because the ability to choose the truth and not be fooled is one of the most precious.
      Remember only one thing - "our world is large and wide. But each of us chooses only one of the roads."
  20. faser
    faser April 23 2013 21: 53 New
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    Thanks to the AUTHOR raised a real topic! parents, let’s take a look who grows up at our place, and pay attention to education, otherwise others do it for us,
  21. de_monSher
    de_monSher April 24 2013 05: 38 New
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    Sorry dear Werr17, - I will not say, no one will say - for your exposition = it does not pull more =, in a normal school you should have slapped 5 for relevance = but also with a stretch, big =, and 2 for form, content and style. Your statement resembles the creation of a lazy seventh-grader boy who, after the summer holidays, was forced to write at school about how he was relaxing with Grandma. He issued:

    "He arrived. He looked around. It smelled of dung and the thunderstorm of yesterday. The cats here are all yellow-eyed. I think because there are many poking around in the dung. But why are they yellow-eyed and not green-eyed. That’s strange ?! Ah, yes. One horsewent fishing with the guys. There was no fish, since we caught it in the stadium. We were informed about this by the director of the stadium, in the evening. "Etc. etc.

    Do not consider it criticism, I still very soft spoke out. Fair. In general, remember about my five for relevance. You have a lot of work to do with In short. This is the most powerful weapon in the world. Stronger than him simply is not, nothing at all. So to work so that your heart leaves your heels, and even when you write nonsense, people would trust you recklessly ...

    PS: Damn it. Is it real or something, this, nasvay, is so popular in Russia ?! What a horror ...
  22. Alex66
    Alex66 April 24 2013 09: 09 New
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    When there is a computer and a telly for children, books are not needed. He himself read a lot in childhood, and there was no computer, but there weren’t many programs for children on TV, now I understand how much they needed for the children to study, read, go to sections and circles, in a word develop. Well, what normal child will make an effort if dad, mom or computer with a telly does everything for him? One way out is to limit the impact of the telly and the computer, while creating an alternative from sections, circles and libraries. To conduct contests and olympiads requiring knowledge from non-programmatic books read, to encourage winners.
  23. TROG
    TROG April 24 2013 11: 21 New
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    In recent years, everything has changed a lot.
    See how many cars are on the street.
    In my school years, I could stupidly go out into the yard, draw a square, call friends (usually they’re already here, like here) and we started playing square. In the next yard there was an awesome playground I don’t know why, but it’s very convenient to play football .
    And right now. Everything is jammed with cars. There is a basketball court opposite my house. Probably it was made for a pontus. Right now the end of winter and there are cars on it. Yes they are there in half of the territory there in summer too. The ground without a fence, without a fence, throw the ball in the wrong place and you get into a car you love.
    Yes, schools began to put up sports fields. But is there enough of it for everyone? Of course not. In the afternoon it is occupied by schoolchildren, and in the evening, how many people can drive the ball, for example, on such a mini-field ...
    At my house within walking distance there were two sections for schoolchildren, like sections for a gym and table tennis. I went to table tennis, we shared a room with breakdancers. Twice a week, for four hours, twenty people played on two tables.
    My brother didn’t even find it. He sat at the computer for days and nights, and now he sits behind him for days. And I will not describe the diseases that he has.
  24. svskor80
    svskor80 April 24 2013 11: 40 New
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    The older generation is always dissatisfied with the younger ones. Everything will settle down and fall into place, drug addicts and other addicts will be in the vast majority, and the majority will get on their feet. Then history will repeat itself, new generations will appear, and new sources of dependencies, and again the grumbling older generation.
  25. Captain45
    Captain45 April 24 2013 16: 37 New
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    Well colleagues, sorry one
    Quote: Mechanic
    And who of you tried in 13 years to force your son to read?
    and before 13, he did what you learned, what time he learned to read. My seventeenth year goes, but he knows about comp games, he sometimes plays with a friend, but the book is for him in the first place, he started reading in 5 years and how It so happened that he read Russian children's literature and all the invincible spiders and other monsters did not interest him. He preferred J. Verne Bussenard and other adventure literature that he himself read in childhood and adolescence. Another
    Quote: matRoss
    It might work, but years before 10, not older. Then parents are not credible.
    the parent for the 10-year-old is not an authority. Yes, teach him how to make a fire in a damp forest, how to make a hook from a pin and catch a fish, show what a knife is in the forest, what they can do, teach the footcloths to wind correctly and your kid will be in he will keep his mouth shut in the army more than once. And if of course the father himself freezes up in the computer and the shooters are cut, and on the horizontal bar he can’t make a simple upgrade by a coup, then there will be authority.