Children is our future? Part of 3.

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Good day, dear reader! Today, as I promised, in my third article I will talk about another problem of young people: TV and computer. But, before I digress a little: in the last article, the user under the nickname Garrin said: "It’s not clear just why the most important and terrible problem, drug addiction, is not affected." I will say right away: the man said correctly, and now I will sort this problem out.

Children is our future? Part of 3.


Unfortunately, I have no information about the use of "hard" drugs among young people, but I can tell you a little about spice and nasvay (saturate us, nat, nose, ice, nats). First of all, let's look at what is what. Spice is a synthetic smoking mixture. Not to say that it is so popular in my city, but I more and more often see the advertisement "Spice. Smoke. 8 - *** - *** - ** - **"

Now we go to us. He is more "popular." First of all, let me say what nasvay is: a kind of smokeless tobacco product. Usually used to create it bird (chicken) droppings, ash (for viscosity) and, in fact, tobacco. With this, I am not afraid of the word, shit, people are "thrown about." But since the main audience of this site belonged to the 20-35 youth ages ago (please don't take offense), I will write in a more human language. "Nasvay is laid under the lower or upper lip or under the tongue and kept there waiting for the effect. Swallowed saliva with dissolved nasal can cause nausea, vomiting and diarrhea" - taken from Wikipedia. Since tobacco is part of nasvay, it develops nicotine addiction.

Now tell history from life: my former classmate, let's call him Mr. X went to college. I will not tell you what is going on there (in my opinion, the horror), but they use nasvay. On the first day he was offered a "throw", but he refused. And just recently, a friend of mine approached me at school with the question: "Do you want to drop?" Politely having gone to the known sexual organ, he now does not offer it to me. Sad is not it?

Well, it was an addition to the previous article, now let's move on to the main information.

Episode l. Computer.

Well, where to start? To begin with, our young people love to play it. In slang, this is called "zadroit", and the one who plays, respectively, "zadrot". Among the favorite games of "zadrotov" there are Warcraft (Vova), Dota 2 (DotA, DotA for zadrota) and further on the list. Everyone sits differently. For example, 2-3 is enough for me an hour a day and in 2 for a month this game stupidly bothers me, I lose all interest in it. And for others, the game is everything; you cannot live without it.



And already follows such a thing as "game addiction." "Game addiction is a form of psychological dependence, manifested in the obsessive passion for video games and computer games," says Wikipedia. The computer has become an integral part of our life, but still we need to do something about it. I, as an inexperienced person, want to ask you, readers, what to do? You need to do something about it ....



Episode ll. Television.

And now let's talk from the TV. Although I think it is better to call it "box with morons." On modern TV there are not very many really interesting and informative programs. But there are more than enough similar ones ... What only the "2 House" or "Vacations in Mexico" cost? ... Sometimes you want to take and throw this box out the window.



And what are the American cartoons of Disney channel? And not only cartoons, but the same series? Tolerance is massively propagandized (they say, black and white are friends), the American way of life, and so on. Dumb humor and abounds. Long-known fact: off-screen humor "dulls" the person.

Want an interesting fact? The cartoon "SpongeBob" was originally created for the mentally retarded, but it is shown to ordinary children.

Or let us turn to the TNT and STS TV series. Completely foreign creators and producers. It is not surprising that the topic of sex, vulgarity and the like is constantly revolving.

Also on our television there are very few domestic cartoons, those cartoons that would teach kindness, compassion, and others. Already a legend “Tom and Jerry” cartoon, but psychologists are sounding the alarm: you can't watch children! Because there are often scenes of violence, cruelty, and the cats look very "nothing". But the question may arise: what about “Well, wait!”? There are also not very good scenes, for example, the Wolf smokes. I answer: Wolf is the main antagonist of this cartoon. Children already understand this, therefore the child already understands that smoking is bad.



And what to watch and what to do with our children?
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  1. biglow
    +21
    April 23 2013
    And what to watch and what to do with our children?
    teach children to read books and they will be happy smile
    1. Genoezec.
      +8
      April 23 2013
      In my opinion, part of Russia's future will disappear without reading. By the way, he was terribly carried away by computer games, tired of it only after 2 years
      1. -14
        April 23 2013
        Children are like children .. why touch them
    2. +13
      April 23 2013
      And now there are such books:?

      If the way is cut through with his father's sword
      You are wound with salty tears,
      If in a hot fight I experienced that how much-
      So, you read the necessary books as a child!
      1. biglow
        +3
        April 23 2013
        Quote: Uncle Lee
        And now there are such books:?

        read the classics, new is well forgotten old
    3. Melchakov
      +6
      April 23 2013
      What to do, what to do? Parents will have children, here's what to do. And they’re used to blaming the authorities for everything, but they don’t do it.
      1. +7
        April 23 2013
        And who of you tried in 13 years to force your son to read? We read it, and now the books have been replaced by the Internet, TV and playstation. So fasten men, through 5, we’ll get that children get boots and are captured, and then we will protect what remains of the Motherland
        1. +1
          April 23 2013
          Quote: Mechanic
          And who of you tried in 13 years to force your son to read?

          And you try to sit down and read at least a couple of interesting fragments from the book, and then say: "I recommend it, very interesting." And a little later to ask whether the son was interested, "yes" - why, "no" - all the more why. Find it cooler? Yes, easily! Yes, not always classic, but there is a bunch of fiction and patriotic, while all sorts of adventures. Start with what is interesting, then you will not tear yourself away from reading!
          By the way, offhand - the collection "Our cause is just" (N. Perumov, V. Kamsha, E. and S. Ratkevich) or S. Sadov "Prince Voldemar Starinov" - a great thing, with wars, fights, the need for knowledge and so on.
          1. +3
            April 23 2013
            Quote: Egoza
            Yes easily! Yes, it’s not always a classic, but there is a lot of fiction and patriotic at the same time, all sorts of adventures. Start with what's interesting, then you won’t tear it away from reading!
            By the way, offhand - the collection "Our cause is just" (N. Perumov, V. Kamsha, E. and S. Ratkevich) or S. Sadov "Prince Voldemar Starinov" - a great thing, with wars, fights, the need for knowledge and so on.
            I tried it, but cooler Ks with friends and with "dad, give your headphones there the sound is so cool" This is the generation of the Internet and nothing can be done about it. On Friday, I fell ill so that I wouldn't go to school, but when I found out that I would lie in bed and not sit in a swoop on my computer I recovered.
          2. DeerIvanovich
            +3
            April 23 2013
            nevertheless, the writers of the Soviet period wrote remarkably: Kir Bulychev, at least let me read it, he will not tear it off.
            Drivers of frigates I remember there was a good book, a trilogy about midshipmen ... well, and much more.
            similar children will read.
          3. +1
            April 23 2013
            Quote: Egoza
            And you try to sit down and read at least a couple of interesting fragments from the book, and then say: "I recommend it, very interesting."

            It might work, but years before 10, not older. Then the parents are not credible. The problem is that parents do not read books. Absolutely. Remember each of your friends, only honestly. And 20 years ago? Disaster, damn it. sad
        2. bezumnyiPIT
          +1
          April 23 2013
          At the age of thirteen I re-read all Jules Verne. It’s just necessary to bring up the child from time to time
        3. DeerIvanovich
          0
          April 23 2013
          why suddenly starter? smile
        4. +1
          April 23 2013
          Quote: Mechanic
          And who of you tried in 13 years to force your son to read? We read it, and now the books have been replaced by the Internet, TV and playstation. So fasten men, through 5, we’ll get that children get boots and are captured, and then we will protect what remains of the Motherland

          You are mistaken, you used to read far from everything, and not so willingly. Buy your son an e-book, set an example (your own).
  2. serov
    +7
    April 23 2013
    On a zombie box, you can often spin scientific, educational, historical and culture-enhancing programs.
  3. Ak 12
    -1
    April 23 2013
    At the expense of the so-called Naysov Natsov and other things .. on this, in our city every third stall sells this garbage and so openly
  4. Ak 12
    +2
    April 23 2013
    Quote: Civil
    Children are like children .. why touch them

    so if they are not controlled, they will raise a hand on their parents
  5. Ak 12
    +1
    April 23 2013
    and on TV for children some zapodnye cartoon that corrode the brain of the young generation
    1. bezumnyiPIT
      +2
      April 23 2013
      Judging by your grammar, you are very addicted to TV
  6. +5
    April 23 2013
    Yes, that children. My wife left my neighbor due to the fact that he was 38 years old at .... ok, he played in tanks before work and after work, not to mention the weekend. And addicted to his 8 year old son.
    Yes, and on the site advertising World of Tanks. I am sure that 15 percent or more of the site also play. Therefore, from the very beginning we need to set an example. Show that there is a substance more interesting and correct.
    1. +3
      April 23 2013
      Millions of people play "World of Tanks", here the main thing is to know the measure. I also play this game, the main thing here is not to put the game ahead of the family.
      1. +5
        April 23 2013
        Quote: Setrac
        Millions of people play "World of Tanks", here the main thing is to know the measure. I also play this game, the main thing here is not to put the game ahead of the family.


        An adult man needs to work, raise children and ..... his wife and generally spend time with his family outside working hours. No offense, but for example I don’t even have 1 hour a day to play since I started a family. And knowing the online game, there is no measure. All swing, etc. And an hour a day you can’t do.

        In general, the main problem of children is not a computer, but the Internet exactly! Disconnect your child from the Internet and he will not play for more than 2 hours, nor will he communicate online with nerds and, accordingly, he will not be pulled anywhere.
        1. +1
          April 23 2013
          So I say - a measure is needed. I also have an hour and a half a day. And before the wedding, he could spend 6-7 hours a day on the game.
          True, then there was no world of tanks.
          1. +2
            April 23 2013
            Quote: Setrac
            True, then there was no world of tanks.


            There was a counter strike, as I remember now) Then he also played about 8 years ago.
            1. +1
              April 23 2013
              Quote: Manager
              There was a counter strike, as I remember now) Then he also played about 8 years ago.

              Contra and now there, I played in Warcraft3 The Frozen Throne /
          2. +3
            April 23 2013
            Quote: Setrac
            And before the wedding on 6-7 hours a day could spend on the game.

            It’s strange that the wedding generally took place laughing
            Sorry, could not resist
            1. +2
              April 23 2013
              Quote: matRoss
              It’s strange that the wedding generally took place
              Sorry, could not resist

              As one cinema judge said
              "- I knew you were going to say that!"
        2. bezumnyiPIT
          0
          April 23 2013
          Set an example for your child - do not use the Internet then
  7. +3
    April 23 2013
    1st served - handsome-- wink 2nd - I'm already afraid
  8. Melchakov
    0
    April 23 2013
    ... Nickelodeon still allied with Jetiks, and the freak regiments unfolded in battle order. Piglet didn’t see this anymore, the flipped side did not leave him any chances, and only his friend’s thick paw kept him in this world.

    “Vinnie,” he asked suddenly, “are we really English?”

    “By birth,” the teddy bear replied gloomily. - Only by birth.

    - I have checkered pants. I guess I'm a Scotsman. - Blood sharpened on the side with a thin stream and said Piglet quieter.

    “Of course, a Scot.” They are the most staunch warriors! - Winnie unsuccessfully tried to swallow a lump that got up in his throat. “I always suspected you were Mac Pyatak!”

    - No .. O'Piglet. So it is more correct ... and more beautiful ... O'Piglet enters the battle ... You will write ... - Piglet exhaled noisily. And he didn't breathe.

    - Oh, Piglet ... - The bear froze, afraid to disturb his friend. Time just stopped, sounds and smells disappeared, the whole world disappeared. Vinnie himself disappeared, tired of this hopeless war, and it seemed to him that there in front of him a small warrior in checkered trousers was waving his paw with his paw, and he had to catch up with him, tell him to return, after all, this is a terrible mistake, and O` Piglet is rather an Irish surname ...

    * * *

    Carlson was sitting in a tree and desperately cold. The morning cold made its way to the bones, but the scout preferred a dozen anti-personnel grenades to a set of warm clothes - the weight is the same, but the benefits are greater. It was unrealistic to fly across the front line during the day - the proliferating freaks had four machine guns. Therefore, Carlson covered himself with goose bumps, wiped his nose, looked around grimly, but did not move. The transport was late.

    - And-and-and, brazza! Onion, onion, chiariz anising strange! - A couple of rare monsters got out of the undergrowth. They proudly called themselves beavers, but Carlson, even after meeting Aibolit, could not imagine how something similar could be created from a beaver.

    Oh, damn it! emergency chocolate wrapper dropped out of pocket!

    There was no time to wait, reinforcements could come up at any moment, and Karlson, hitting the button on his stomach, rushed into the attack. Having laid a turn, he calmed this perceptive on the move, and turned to the second one, but he turned out to be not easy. This semblance of a beaver was already standing by the tree with a Stinger on its shoulder, there was no way to dodge, and Carlson rushed into a steep dive, wanting only to get closer, so that the freak would be hit by shrapnel.

    The thug panicked, dropped his weapon and subtly screamed in horror - the face of Carlson falling on him was a warped mask of righteous anger.

    - Catch a bun, starve! - Carlson, as in an exercise, threw four grenades, covering the target with a square, and tried to get out of the dive. The attempt turned out to be successful, the dive turned into a shaving flight over the edge of the swamp. Explosions boomed behind his back (there is another one, a thought flashed), and something small and heavy with a metallic clatter ticked on the main rotor, Carlson shook, and he crashed into the swamp at full speed, raising a fountain of spray. "They lie about their splinter," the flyer managed to think, after which the thoughts ended.
    1. Melchakov
      0
      April 23 2013
      A quiet marsh current along the coast attracted a hefty mossy log. Sometimes a pair of tenacious golden eyes came off this log, after which the course was adjusted. Finally, the log stopped and opened a toothy mouth, from which Cheburashka busily climbed out. According to the hanging disguise, the fluffy baby climbed onto the crocodile’s head, took off huge canned glasses, took out the plugs from his ears and looked around.

      - Oh, green, for some reason I don’t see him. Are you really late?

      - Not. Everything is on schedule. A minute before the control time - just to get to the shore.

      - Then they moved. Just come on, not directly, but along the woo-o-o-he of those reeds. Somehow they are perceived strange.

      Gene silently earned a tail and paws. At the exits, he never argued with Cheburashka. Big, sensitive ears, sharp vision at any time of the day, common sense - all this made the small animal a leader. In the camp, Cheburashka was stewing, hiding in a tent and doing some petty things, occasionally choosing to warm himself around the fire and listen to Gene singing.

      Upon closer inspection, the embrace turned into a whole glade, at the end of which friends saw a familiar plump figure lying prone.

      Carlson was alive, but unconscious.

      - Right now, right now, we have it, - "Comrade Che" quickly pulled out a first-aid kit from a small backpack. - So, glucose, adrenaline, vein ... Done. Watch it, Gena, the time will be up in fifteen seconds.

      Carlson opened his muddy eyes. Then he moved his swollen, broken lips, spitting up every minute:

      - More glucose. Che, give me some more ...

      - Enough. We still have to swim back.

      - Do not be afraid, I have one hundred thousand packs of glucose in NZ, I would have the strength to get to it.

      - As for the Base, as for the NZ - all one shove. So it’s better to go directly to the base. Yes, and the commander is waiting. Gene, diving under it, I don’t have enough strength to drag such a carcass upstairs.

      - Diving ... Am I a submarine? grumbled the crocodile, pulling Carlson's moaning deeper.

      “No,” Cheburashka answered quite seriously. “You are much better than any submarine.” I would not trade you for a hundred thousand submarines.

      Then he laid comfortably on Carlson, who again fell into oblivion, and covered him with a camouflage net. And the whole way back he held his hand, afraid to miss a pulse.
      1. Melchakov
        +1
        April 23 2013
        A thinly tinted pencil tapped the map, drawing attention.

        - The enemy went to the line of the Swamp of Yagishny - Romashkovo - Prostokvashino - Enchanted forest. There is a danger of invading the Jungle and the North. Paravozik defended himself for a long time, but in the end he was forced to retreat to Romashkovo itself. Prostokvashino was under flank threat and I propose to leave him.

        The kid raised his head and looked around the audience with a cold look. It seems that the color of the eyes has not changed, it is still the same blue - but now instead of the summer sky there was aurora borealis, cold and merciless.

        - I do not agree. - Uncle Fedor immediately responded from a far corner. - I will not leave Prostokvashino.

        “Disobeying orders?” - The look of the baby was heavy. - Wartime, you know ...

        “What difference does it make to me where to lie?” - answered Uncle Fedor. “I have nowhere to retreat.”

        “It’s you, Uncle Fedor, you’re saying correctly,” the striped Matroskin came up to his side, “we cannot leave Prostokvashino.” There it’s still like a chip, and we’ll leave - that's it, we won’t take it back.

        - Okay, Sharik - of course, with the team, and you, Pechkin, why are you silent? Will you be heroic too?

        - So the enemies are the first thing that they will take? Bridges, banks, mail. How do I give them the mail myself? No, I'm in Prostokvashino, there will be handy there on the hill.

        Then the Kid noticed that Pechkin was unusually calm and severe, a peakless cap on his head, and a clean-necked vest peeping out of the open gate.

        “Well, why is that?” - The commander gestured to a peakless visor.

        “Yes, you just don’t know, commander,” Uncle Fedor laughed. “Pechkin mumbled in the Marine Corps, but was decommissioned by injury.” Everything is fine, everything is right. Well, say something else?

        - If you decide, hold on tight. Against you Fat Louis with dad and the whole family. And Arnold. Can I count on you? If you hold out even at least in the evening, I can transfer reinforcements to the Enchanted Forest, they have very bad conditions there.

        - Absolutely? - Squinted Uncle Fedor, - Did the Owl send a dispatch?

        “Absolutely.” - The kid walked along the table with a map. - Piglet put, Vinnie is wounded, Ia is wounded, okay, at least it’s easy. Carlson personally flew.

        - Got it. Will you let the volunteers go with me?

        - Where to put you, take it. But no more than three, otherwise I know you - entice all the personnel! - The kid already knew who these volunteers were.

        - Then we went. Go ahead, guard, we still have to dig trenches. Perseus, Theseus, Jason - do not worry, eh?

        “Tse,” the voice said, Theseus seems. - I once went to the Minotaur - I was not afraid. Let's go already.
        1. Melchakov
          +5
          April 23 2013
          The Mysterious Forest covered the evening, and the closer the night came, the quieter it became in the war.

          “I don’t understand,” said Winnie the Pooh, regularly applying himself to the flask. “Rabbit, you're smart, tell me what’s going on.”

          “War,” Rabbit shrugged. - War never ends. Etc.

          Rabbit's ears drooped dumbly from the slots in his helmet, his glasses bent once again, a long scratch flashed on his cheek, and his camouflage was in such rags as if he had been torn by a pack of dogs. Although in fact, there was a flock of some barking mutants, but they could be called dogs only in drug delirium.

          “And yet I do not understand.” Look, we are English, Carlson is a Swede, Mowgli you can’t make out, but let him be an Indian. Theseus is generally Greek. And their platoon is recruited there, the heroes of Hellas. Gerda is a Danish, Chippolino is Italian, and Pinocchio, they also speak half from there. - Winnie was silent for a second, again wetting his throat. - How did it happen that we are fighting in Russia?

          “Do you dislike something?” - The rabbit tried to portray the question with his ears, but there was already not enough strength. - And how did you not see the Russians fighting? With me, Baba Yaga lowered a plasticine crow into a squad of transformers in her swamp - I thought I would turn gray. They while they drove away half the detachment laid. And then she will turn into a crow, then into a dog, then into a cow. And you won’t get anywhere. Have you ever seen a dog the size of a cow? And the two of the casket? Where else have you seen such saboteurs? And how did the Gray Wolf fight? He alone kept half of the North!

          - Yes, I’m not talking about how cool you are - Winnie handed his friend a flask and watched with emotion as he quenches his thirst. “I want to understand why it’s not disgusting to fight with relatives myself.” Did you see them today?

          - Saw. - The rabbit laughed shortly. “I just didn’t understand something, is this stupid troublesome gardener my relative?” And this one, in a striped swimsuit, is a relative of O’ Piglet? Rave. Than such relatives, it is better to be an orphan.

          - Yeah. "Gee! ..." - mimicked Winnie the Pooh. And imagine what it was like for the Greeks. Are these their gods? Is this Hercules? To Hades, everyone! Perseus still cannot calm down, everything rushes to attack under cover of night.

          Both still once attached to the flask.

          “I don’t understand one thing,” the little bear said slowly, staring into the fire. - Will there be reinforcements? How many years have we been fighting, eh? You look - the kid is already fifty dollars soon, we, too, are no longer little boys, even Uncle Fedorou - and he is over thirty. Where are the reinforcements? Who will replace us?

          The rabbit was silent and also avoided meeting the bear’s eyes.

          - But what names were ... Okay, I will not say anything about the center. And remember Armenfilm? Kievnauchfilm? Sverdlovsk? Leningrad? Tallinn? Where are they? Where is the help? Are we all that stands in the way of serial mutants?

          - That's all for now. - shortly approached the Kid coming up to the fire. “All hope is that those whom we defended all this time will continue to call us to themselves.” So that we protect their children. While they remember us - we are in the ranks. While our name is, we will fight.
          1. Marat-sp
            +2
            April 23 2013
            Wonderful story
          2. +1
            April 23 2013
            Wow! I would only post it separately.
            1. Melchakov
              +1
              April 23 2013
              Quote: Mikhail3
              Wow! I would only post it separately.

              Quote: Marat-Sp
              Wonderful story

              This, so to speak, is not entirely mine. The source is now not found.
              1. +1
                April 23 2013
                Well, not yours, so not yours. I liked it anyway good
                And who is minus something incomprehensible?
  9. xmike
    +4
    April 23 2013
    I download my "Tales of Pushkin" and "Soyuzmultfilm";)
    1. 0
      April 23 2013
      Quote: xmike
      I download my "Tales of Pushkin" and "Soyuzmultfilm";)

      Very correct! By the way, did you know that in terms of its positive energy and positive influence, the poem "At Lukomorye has a green oak" is equal to the prayer "Our Father"? More Pushkin !!! A genius for all time!
  10. cyclist
    +3
    April 23 2013
    Pepsi generation, our state does not set itself the goal of limiting brainwashing or introducing censorship, all the same it is beneficial for someone, if everything is so bad then everyone’s future choice
  11. pink
    +13
    April 23 2013
    The ancient sages said: "Why conquer the state for your descendants with the help of the army? Send your teachers there to teach his children, and in a few generations, without bloodshed, this state will kneel before your children." So in Russia now this is happening
  12. +2
    April 23 2013
    my friend got divorced because of the game, by the way he played in the World of Tanks advertised here.
    1. +1
      April 23 2013
      My neighbor last week lost his wife and son (left him) for the same reason. This one ... sits drinking beer and continues to play.
      1. 0
        April 24 2013
        Hoopoes are plentiful in all walks of life and Network / Online Games are no exception. I myself have been playing since I was 8 years old (the first was still the Spectrum, as I remember now), but such that it is completely annoying ... And now I play, but not on the Web, but strictly offline - it is important for me not just to stupidly kill time on completely senseless pumping, and enjoy pleasant music, good gameplay, especially the plot - my favorite RPG genre, besides, playing global economic and political simulators, I continue to improve myself: the other day I played a game in "Europe 3" and was happy to find and I read everything I could on the Web about the odyssey of the famous research corvettes Bussol, Astrolabe and Zele - on the weekend I go to visit a friend, there I can tell his 10-year-old son, captivate, interest, and make it clear to a friend in which direction to work.
        From 13 to 15 years old I completely re-read all of Fenimore Cooper, Mine Reed, Jules Verne, Emilio Salgari, Alexander Dumas - something in samizdat, something my grandmother got through communications in Moscow. And no one forced me - it was interesting, I wanted to learn something, to dream up (especially when Ineta was not there at all, and the schedule didn’t turn the language like that). And now I continue to read and attach all the acquaintances / relatives as far as possible.
        So I won’t speak for everyone, I repeat: nerds are flawed people who need help and not necessarily in a prohibitive way. hi
  13. +1
    April 23 2013
    You need to share your time and knowledge with your children.
  14. +4
    April 23 2013
    You know, as soon as it got warm, a lot of kids poured out into the courtyards. The first feeling is that they have turned off or simply not electricity. Nah, everything's fine. Already the soul rejoiced. I remembered my childhood. All is not lost. Children are able to enjoy a warm day and a ball, one for all.
  15. +1
    April 23 2013
    Episode ll. Television.

    Do you think young people are watching TV? In my opinion, among young people, those who watch television (with the exception of sports, perhaps) are now considered idiots and orthodox. For me, so television will die out soon, well, or finally go by the wayside, turning into a frolic for a small audience of fans.

    Well, it makes no sense to blame the children. That's why parents are needed to bring them up normally. I know many passionate very talented children and teenagers. They are not dumber than us at least.
  16. +3
    April 23 2013
    I will say about computer games. There was such a game - "Blade of Darkness". To pass it, it was necessary to sequentially learn more and more combinations on the keyboard that became more complicated with each level, in the end for both hands. Not hand-to-hand combat training smile but fine motor skills improved and noticeably. Anyone who started playing a long time ago can remember such games ... and so what?
    They disappeared. They were popular, they brought tangible money ... disappeared. How is the game built now? Any game written in any country (partially except Russia)? They are made so that a person does not learn anything. Diligently, one can say fanatically, all computer games in the world are filed so that a person does not take out any skills from them. And why? Why do people get divorced from their wives and get divorced for tangible money in order to dart into dummies?
    Nothing complicated. Games offer a surrogate for development instead of real development. That is, a person (who firmly associates himself with his own Persian, even if this Persian is a tank garage) seems to be growing. As if going forward ... by collecting nishtyaks. "I improved the gun." Have you learned to shoot? Have you improved any skills? Have you advanced in self-discipline? No. The man himself collapsed a little more, but ... he collected phantom money for a painted gun. Such "development" is immeasurably lighter than real development, human self-development. But for the psyche it is ... almost indistinguishable! A person turns into trash, and his deceived brain sings soothingly - all is well ... all is well ... I bought a new gun! And the "cruel reality", thrusting a nerd into the ground with the hands of gopniks (whom girls from my class would have chased along the walls with school aprons, before that these "criminals" are pathetic, weak and helpless) or simply reminding him that there are no real successes, only pushes our "gunner" even more to his favorite game. Because there he has a chance for a gun! There he "develops"!
    Destruction of people is progressing. And too fast, too full, too scary impact, so I believe that it is accidental.
    1. 0
      April 23 2013
      Dear Michael3, you apparently did not play computer games seriously. Take the same World of Tanks, since they started talking about it, at least it teaches discipline, team play, develop thinking (this can be said about almost any game). The player in the world of tanks knows how to knock out a tank. A sucker, he is a sucker, regardless of whether he plays computer games or not, and the gopot will not lag behind him, regardless of whether he plays the world of tanks or not. The same sport is far from being as meaningful as some say here, how much sense is there in pumping out dust from a pear? Football, volleyball, basketball - they make less sense than in some computer games. It’s ridiculous to talk about such a sport as sports flooring - curling. The counter-strike player is a ready-made fighter for action in the city.
      I have been playing Warcraft3 Ice Throne for many years (this is a strategy) and I understood the simple rules in order to win you need to know what the enemy is doing, intelligence first of all, in addition you need to guess what the enemy WILL do.
      Of course, for every useful game there are dozens of meaningless, useless, what is called chewing gum for the brain, but the same can be said about books, not all books are worth the paper on which they are printed.
      1. +1
        April 24 2013
        Seriously winked And you download the same Blade and pass it at the highest level, for example, for a gnome. However, this is by the way. I have to disappoint you. If you try to apply the skills of "team play" from tanks in real life, you will find that they are not. Not the ability to work as a team. As for discipline ... well, if a person was not taught any discipline at all, never and in any way, then what is acquired with the help of tanks can be called so. But actually ... And, most importantly. No, the player does NOT know how to knock out a tank. I'm sorry ...
        About the "meaningfulness" of sports. I am sure that in the movies you have repeatedly seen how sweaty, shirtless men (like in toys. These people NEVER work with a naked torso) furiously beat a red-hot piece of metal with a hammer. Tell me, is it useful for a piece of metal to be able to withstand heat loads and hammer blows while hot? No, not at all useful. In their life, the life of the sword, they will not face such loads. But if you do not subject the metal to these "senseless and useless" loads, it will not become a sword. Never.
        About your favorite "world". Do you know how much information a person receives through text? And with the help of the rest of the senses? No, you don't get the ability to predict a person's actions in reality. Over the years, you have gained the ability to predict the actions of 5% of the human psyche in conditions of change of 8-15 factors. The simplest, most elementary situation in life is influenced by at least 50 factors, and people are represented there entirely, and not by five percent. You have learned to fight with your left toe against an opponent who is tied just like you, being able to use only that same toe.
        Training and the formation of a person brings results only when training situations are many times more difficult than workers. For example, in life you do not have to run at the speed of a master of sports in competitions. Enough and less speed. But if he learned instead of running to walk a distance of three meters, each time resting after a week of training ...
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          April 24 2013
          Discipline is also a discipline in Africa, even in the world of tanks, even in a real army, the game is even more difficult, you have nowhere to go in the army, and you must become disciplined in the game. A sport of high achievement is generally VERY harmful. But in a sense, you are right, the game is not a bad job as a learning tool.
  17. +1
    April 23 2013
    Sport should be carried away by youth and examples of the older generation .... children are essentially not to blame for anything, as a rule parents do not have enough time and society imposes values ​​on children. I think that computer games are one of the types of drug addiction .... look at what happens in the west with more avid computer fans ... they sit and play games ... then they get up and take up arms and go on to play further at schools and movie theaters. I’m doing paintball myself and I’m interested in my son, it’s better to shoot at living people, to pour out everything that has accumulated, and then to sit in a friendly company to discuss who is who and how, and not to spend the whole day at the computer sitting the mouse tormenting to nervous breakdowns
  18. +2
    April 23 2013
    He showed his daughter, 13 years old, cried ... \
  19. Rinat
    +2
    April 23 2013
    I am 17 years old, sitting at the computer for about 3-4 hours, mostly looking for new films and books on IMHONet, a third of the time I read the news here.
    Among my acquaintances, there are practically no computer nerds, most boxers and wrestlers, but here they all throw nasvay ... I also tried, but after the first time I was sick, never tried again.
    The only reason we (children) spend a lot of time at the computer is because there’s nothing to do, but since I live in a remote part of the city, there will always be work at home, but I won’t know how children cope in the city center ... therefore and sit a lot at the computer ...
    1. +2
      April 23 2013
      Rinat, compared to my 17 years, you are among the treasures. You’re right now in Ali Baba’s cave, and Ali has successfully fallen far away ... Damn ... With a minimal desire, you can now find techniques, descriptions, techniques and tools to become literally anyone.
      Now you are infinitely efficient and almost absolutely plastic - piss yourself off what you want! Here, in fact, there is only one secret - in fact, a person cannot be taught. Nothing can be taught, in general. A person can exclusively learn. Do you understand? Only you yourself! But here you are almost omnipotent for yourself. Want to be a scary fighter? Be! It is possible. Do you want - an all-knowing wise guy? And you can do it! And you can become a universal - the knowledge and skills of an engineer (not a modern stupid draftsman of pictures, but the real one - like Cyres Smith), the strength and combat skills of a front-line reconnaissance officer of the Second World War (Schwarz and I didn’t have time to squeak with you), sensitive, beautiful fingers of the master ... it is also possible! Choose your path - and go. Follow it all the time, you have the main thing - the information sea, in which there is everything. True, it also has a lot of lies. And this is good! Because the ability to choose the truth and not be fooled is one of the most precious.
      Remember only one more thing - "our world is great and wide. But each of us chooses only one of the roads."
  20. 0
    April 23 2013
    Thanks to the AUTHOR raised a real topic! parents, let’s take a look who grows up at our place, and pay attention to education, otherwise others do it for us,
  21. -1
    April 24 2013
    Sorry dear Werr17, - I will not say, no one will say - for your exposition = it does not pull more =, in a normal school you should have slapped 5 for relevance = but also with a stretch, big =, and 2 for form, content and style. Your statement resembles the creation of a lazy seventh-grader boy who, after the summer holidays, was forced to write at school about how he was relaxing with Grandma. He issued:

    "I came. I looked around. It smelled of manure and the day before yesterday thunderstorm. The cats here are all yellow-eyed. I think because they swarm around in the manure a lot. But why are they yellow-eyed, not green-eyed. That's strange ?! Oh, yes. One." con, went fishing with the guys. There was no fish, as we caught it at the stadium. The director of the stadium informed us about this in the evening. "Etc., etc.

    Do not consider it criticism, I still very soft spoke out. Fair. In general, remember about my five for relevance. You have a lot of work to do with In short. This is the most powerful weapon in the world. Stronger than him simply is not, nothing at all. So to work so that your heart leaves your heels, and even when you write nonsense, people would trust you recklessly ...

    PS: Damn it. Is it real or something, this, nasvay, is so popular in Russia ?! What a horror ...
  22. 0
    April 24 2013
    When there is a computer and a telly for children, books are not needed. He himself read a lot in childhood, and there was no computer, but there weren’t many programs for children on TV, now I understand how much they needed for the children to study, read, go to sections and circles, in a word develop. Well, what normal child will make an effort if dad, mom or computer with a telly does everything for him? One way out is to limit the impact of the telly and the computer, while creating an alternative from sections, circles and libraries. To conduct contests and olympiads requiring knowledge from non-programmatic books read, to encourage winners.
  23. 0
    April 24 2013
    In recent years, everything has changed a lot.
    See how many cars are on the street.
    In my school years, I could stupidly go out into the yard, draw a square, call friends (usually they’re already here, like here) and we started playing square. In the next yard there was an awesome playground I don’t know why, but it’s very convenient to play football .
    And right now. Everything is jammed with cars. There is a basketball court opposite my house. Probably it was made for a pontus. Right now the end of winter and there are cars on it. Yes they are there in half of the territory there in summer too. The ground without a fence, without a fence, throw the ball in the wrong place and you get into a car you love.
    Yes, schools began to put up sports fields. But is there enough of it for everyone? Of course not. In the afternoon it is occupied by schoolchildren, and in the evening, how many people can drive the ball, for example, on such a mini-field ...
    At my house within walking distance there were two sections for schoolchildren, like sections for a gym and table tennis. I went to table tennis, we shared a room with breakdancers. Twice a week, for four hours, twenty people played on two tables.
    My brother didn’t even find it. He sat at the computer for days and nights, and now he sits behind him for days. And I will not describe the diseases that he has.
  24. 0
    April 24 2013
    The older generation is always dissatisfied with the younger ones. Everything will settle down and fall into place, drug addicts and other addicts will be in the vast majority, and the majority will get on their feet. Then history will repeat itself, new generations will appear, and new sources of dependencies, and again the grumbling older generation.
  25. 0
    April 24 2013
    Well colleagues, sorry one
    Quote: Mechanic
    And who of you tried in 13 years to force your son to read?
    and before 13, he did what you learned, what time he learned to read. My seventeenth year goes, but he knows about comp games, he sometimes plays with a friend, but the book is for him in the first place, he started reading in 5 years and how It so happened that he read Russian children's literature and all the invincible spiders and other monsters did not interest him. He preferred J. Verne Bussenard and other adventure literature that he himself read in childhood and adolescence. Another
    Quote: matRoss
    It might work, but years before 10, not older. Then parents are not credible.
    the parent for the 10-year-old is not an authority. Yes, teach him how to make a fire in a damp forest, how to make a hook from a pin and catch a fish, show what a knife is in the forest, what they can do, teach the footcloths to wind correctly and your kid will be in he will keep his mouth shut in the army more than once. And if of course the father himself freezes up in the computer and the shooters are cut, and on the horizontal bar he can’t make a simple upgrade by a coup, then there will be authority.

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