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Memorial content. How our “TV elite” honored the memory of Thatcher and Chernomyrdin

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Counting the number of wreaths, expensive cars, analysis of the location of the grave, the status of those who came to grieve - all this can tell how long and how they will remember the deceased. In these details - and echoes stories, and signs of momentary conjuncture.


However, the greatest contribution to the posthumous reputation still makes television. It is here that the context and nature of the mention of a dead person are determined, and therefore a hierarchy of values ​​is created.

The death of Margaret Thatcher, reflected by Russian television channels, did not allow the viewer to figure out what this significant historical figure was, however, gave food for thought about the people working on TV, their worldview and political preferences.

Many of our channels, and this is an indicative fact, even changed the broadcasting schedule on the day of the sad news for them about the death of the former British Prime Minister.

This means that the technically difficult action was preceded by volunteers, telephone conversations of the authorities. One can imagine how important the uncle and aunts fussed about when choosing memorial content. Teleklerki wool database, clarified ownership of copyright, evaluated the ideology of what the Russian audience should know about the late "Iron Lady".

In the archives of "Russia" there was a film, the degree of complementarity of which fully corresponded to the tradition of speaking at the funeral ceremony with sweetness and anxiety.

The only confusion was: he was shot by Nikolai Svanidze, as they say, with a lump in his throat long before Thatcher's death and did not contain any serious analytics, which is inherent in professional journalistic research.

Simply put, this film is frankly bad, and its author is ridiculous in his operetta role as a romantic youth who is in love with an elderly baroness. It was especially strange to watch the film of Nikolai Karlovich to those who understood that Thatcher personally participated in the destruction of their homeland. However, it was precisely this circumstance that certainly served as an impulse to Svanidze’s ardent feeling towards the lady of the heart.

On the First they showed an imported film about the “Iron Lady”, in which there were many barbs addressed to the Soviet Union. The film was made with love for the heroine, however, watching Thatcher in the newsreel, for her arrogant utterances and flirtatious grimaces, it was difficult to get rid of the thought that the Russian audience was being fooled. With other music, without an obsessive pathetic note, with other offscreen text (which reported, for example, on the destruction of the UK coal industry, the unique British car industry, which provides statistics on the victims of the war with Argentina), Thatcher’s history of the board would have caused the audience quite well-founded dislike

However, nothing like our TV about Thatcher, unfortunately, did not say. We are not talking about the fact that television should spit in a fashionable grave. Although TV is not a diplomatic department, and in a situation where an enemy dies, it can do without special ceremonies.

But for this, television workers must at least consider Thatcher as an enemy. But in this department, on the contrary, Margaret is an attractive symbol.

What symbol? What is so attracted to the liberal crowd of her image? In addition to the trendy anglomania, there is something deep, significant. What makes Ivan Urgant change the humorous tone to pathos (the first time in many years) and tell the tragic news in the final humorous program with a wet eye. By the way, it was precisely this mise-ensemble that turned out to be more powerful in propaganda than numerous lisoblyudskih films about Thatcher. The jester, the prankster, the scabbler, took off his mask at the tomb of the queen and wept, didn’t it, a strong move? ..

So what is Margaret? How did she captivate the minds of the Moscow intelligentsia public?

This audience has always been supportive of witches. The image of Bulgakov Margaret laid down on the soul of the Soviet educators, homegrown mystics with an unwashed head, but a pure aura. In the late eighties, this stratum, let's say in a fashionable manner, became the environment where the cult of the literary witch Margarita harmoniously complemented the cult of the geopolitical witch Margaret, as a result of the synthesis of which a completely physical, strange, angular image appeared - Galina Starovoitova, but, incidentally, the speech was not about her…

The libertarian views of our “elite” became the basis of the Russian cult of Thatcher.

Thoughts and hopes of admirers of St. Petersburg Alice Rosenbaum, almost our primordial libertarian who left the Soviet Union in the 20 of the last century, settled in America and took on the resounding pseudonym Ayn Rand, embodied in the image of the “iron lady”. It was this lady, with her hilarious in details philosophy of total individualism, that firmly conquered the minds of the free-thinking Russian public (from Latynina to Chichvarkin). Ain Rand’s beautifully published books come out in Russia in thousands of copies, her “philosophical concepts” are distributed by speakers of libertarianism with knowledge of marketing secrets - unobtrusively, with enthusiastic clatter of language, which is intended to emphasize the forbiddenness and sweetness of the fetus. For the writer and “philosopher” Ayn Rand, the main thing is the freedom of the individual in everything, without any ethical framework, but with the only prohibition - it is impermissible to violate the boundaries of foreign private property. Ayn Rand stands for the primacy of competition, the rejection of any form of paternalism, the exclusion from the life of an individual of the factor of the state, inevitably, in its opinion, encroaching on personal freedom.

The tragic kiss of the Russian elitarians of cold forehead of Margaret is also a libertarianism without a leg, a declaration of views, a demonstration of a system of values, the main thing in which is contempt for the Soviet, Russian state, but in no case, of course, not for the British or American, to guard these borders Russian elite to death ...

An important event in the context of the chosen theme was the film, which was released on the Russia 1 channel for the 75 anniversary of Viktor Chernomyrdin. Sergey Brilev called his work “Femdom” - famously and at the same time with a feeling of unlimited devotion.

The only drawback of the film is that it does not have a caption "for publicity". If the viewer immediately became aware of the author's intention - to make an extensive advertising video - there would be no questions. But Sergey Brilev, the presenter of the final program on “Russia 1”, who usually acts as an analyst, did not inform the viewer that this time he turned into advertising agents.

The author had to solve a seemingly impossible task, with which he (let's say, running ahead) brilliantly coped. It was necessary to present the political biography of his hero as a chain of glorious achievements. And not just some personal, chernomyrdin ones, but as many as the achievements of all Russia. This apology of the victories of the Black-and-White War required the use of unique technologies. It is clear from the film that not all interviewees easily agreed to discuss the figure of Chernomyrdin in a complimentary tone. Therefore, it should be so cut and nespandor ambiguous comment that he looked like praise. And it turned out!

Only an attentive viewer was able to notice that, for example, Igor Ivanov could not convincingly prove the value of Chernomyrdin’s contribution to the negotiation process between the Americans and Milosevic.

It even seemed that the former Minister of Foreign Affairs, on the contrary, criticized the actions of the special envoy, that somewhere in the archives of Brilev there is an uncut synchronous one that can be used in some future film with the conditional name “The Betrayal of Serb Brothers”.

Jumping from one flimsy hummock to another, from one glorious milestone to the next, Sergey Brilev did not manage to fall into the muddy slime of disappointments. Even telephone conversations with Basayev were presented as a victory of humanity over treachery. Behind the scenes there is everything that followed after this arrogant assignment of others' powers, all that “terrorist activity”, as a result of which hundreds of people died.

The victory of Russia was, it turns out, the activities of the CWS in the Gore – Chernomyrdin commission. In an interview, Al Gore recalled the jokes of a colleague, and the authors of the film confined themselves to this “little man” without mentioning which particular national interests of Russia were surrendered within the framework of this very commission. As if the media never wrote that only on the rejection of military-technical cooperation with Iran, Russia lost about 4 billion dollars, those more dollars in the mid-nineties.

And of course, Chernomyrdin did a good job, because he saved Chubais from the attacks of the reactionary deputies, did not let him be fired, which Chubais himself happily told about. And Yeltsin Chernomyrdin supported 93 in October, but it is not yet known how everything would turn out. And in Ukraine, he fulfilled the most important diplomatic mission, during which, however, the orange came to power.

It is rightly said that the Black Sea Fleet saved Gazprom, it is noted what it cost him, not mentioned, what it cost Gazprom, whether the hero of the film became a shareholder of the gas monopolist. Maybe he did not ... Well, they would say so!

In the film, the presentation of the collection of vintage cars of Victor Stepanovich takes place in the film. How much is the collection? But who cares about it? .. The main thing is that everything has been carefully restored, including the “gift” (as stated in the film) by the Orsk residents of the lorry, which used to stand on a pedestal, and even earlier it was driven by Chernomyrdin’s father. The story seemed to be unsaid, it’s somehow strange that for some reason the monument to the workhorse of the Great Patriotic War was removed from the pedestal. Well, I went to her, for example, Chernomyrdin's father, and now what? .. The camera grabbed mostly domestic cars, trying, apparently, to emphasize the collector’s patriotic aspirations, but there’s also Western, bourgeois, for example, Mercedes 540K . About this instance, evil tongues say that it was donated to Chernomyrdin by Boris Berezovsky, and bought for more than a million dollars at a foreign auction. There are a lot of rumors around this collection of rarities, some even claimed that it was part of the “Rolls-Royce” that disappeared from the Historical Museum, which Lenin traveled after the revolution, and formerly members of the royal family ... There is such a legend ... the descendants of Chernomyrdin, whether this is so, refute the slander, but journalist Brilev, of course, is not interested in such details. The main thing is the winning general line ...

Television funerals, television memorial events have long been turned into an endless, narrowly corporate event. The general list is not drawn up on television, but in the heavenly office, but the list of the chosen ones is occupied by TV.

That, according to which ranking the degree of pompousness of farewell is chosen, cannot but raise questions. I do not want to juggle the names of those who were deprived of attention. We only note that politicians, artists, and on that and in this world represent not only themselves, but also social groups. The liberals stand behind one person, the patriots behind the other, the primitives behind the third, the left behind the fourth. It is impossible not to take this circumstance into account when formulating a television broadcasting policy. Rather, it is possible, but such a situation will annoy the viewer and beyond ...

Although it was thought right now, maybe it’s good that television does not notice the death of patriots, patriots, disenfranchists, does not remember the jubilees of the communists, statesmen, but pompously buries liberals, anti-Sovietists, a breed of freedom-loving people, generation of compradors, fat cats ... Maybe there is some higher justice, an unexpected chance to watch the endless procession of despised and hated ones into another world. You look, you look - and already neither gloating, nor bitterness remains.
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  1. smel
    smel April 19 2013 06: 49 New
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    Sarcasm in the article pleases. One never wanted anything good for my country and did everything to humiliate and destroy it. And the other seemed to be wanted, but he succeeded as always. The article is a plus, and the television box is minus for the harmfulness of information
    1. Denis
      Denis April 19 2013 07: 28 New
      +2
      Quote: smel
      Sarcasm in the article pleases
      And the news!
      When they say that in this way the first-last prezik head with a patch went away from the court
      1. 755962
        755962 April 19 2013 12: 33 New
        +4
        Quote: Denis
        When they say that in this way the first-last prezik head with a patch went away from the court
    2. rolik
      rolik April 19 2013 10: 29 New
      +5
      Quote: smel
      One never wanted anything good for my country and did everything to humiliate and destroy it.

      It is enough to understand what kind of person it was that she considered Mechnyi to be her best friend and ally in the struggle for democracy. And he didn’t even come to the funeral of his best friend, as I was going to kill .... oh, that’s how he remained.
      1. Denis
        Denis April 19 2013 18: 25 New
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        Quote: rolik
        he didn’t even come to the funeral of his best friend
        He didn’t know again
        As with Tbilisi and Vilnius
        And what then did not have the mind to think that decent people and for much smaller shoals resign
    3. Vovka levka
      Vovka levka April 19 2013 15: 39 New
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      Margaret Thatcher did not like the political system that was in the Union, the people have nothing to do with it. When the question was about the collapse of the Soviet Union, she came to Kiev and spoke in the Verkhovna Rada, and dissuaded from independence.
      Chernomyrdin, in comparison with others, was a good guy. The trouble is that everyone should do what he learned. We have everything according to Lenin. There is such a caste of “leaders”, who use the drum to steer, that’s rule. So they rule that they are already sick of it.
    4. Sirocco
      Sirocco April 19 2013 15: 42 New
      +2
      I watched our TV, I honestly say, and this is not only my opinion, it seemed that the great respected politician and man in the Russian Federation died, on all channels, everywhere and everywhere, broadcasts and news about the death of a man who made a lot of efforts to destroy our country . So much hypocrisy, swagger and knicksen was in our media. I wanted to spit on these populations from our media. There is no respect for either his people or the country. And this is not the first time. Somehow we have already dealt with this topic here.
      1. antidote
        antidote April 19 2013 16: 11 New
        +1
        Our media is the diocese of liberalists, the media are clearly not friends of Russia. It was always, unfortunately. At the beginning of the century, all the media were in the hands of one hostile nation of the autocracy, newspapers played a decisive role in discrediting power and promoting liberal ideas. Why do not we see the central channels of Prokhanov, Starikov, Fedorov, but only Svanidze, Pozner and so on representatives of one nation
        1. Sirocco
          Sirocco April 19 2013 16: 20 New
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          Yes, a lot of questions have accumulated to those in power on TV. It seems that there is no longer BAB, Gusinsky and other pro-Western owners of Russian TV. And on TV, a complete mess, debauchery, and corruption of youth. I think with our TV owners, the handbook is the doctrine of Dales. Overcame them Golden Taurus. fool
          1. stalkerwalker
            stalkerwalker April 19 2013 16: 45 New
            +4
            Quote: Sirocco
            It seems that there is no longer BAB, Gusinsky and other pro-Western owners of Russian TV.

            Just look at the thick face of the "permanent head of the jury of KVN" - the continuity of generations is still visible.
            1. Sirocco
              Sirocco April 19 2013 18: 37 New
              +1
              Quote: stalkerwalker
              "permanent head of the jury of KVN"

              Speaking of KVN, I have no words. Just drool. Not that KVN which was before. Sneak, hypocrisy, and flat jokes bought, no impromptu.
    5. Andrey Yuryevich
      Andrey Yuryevich April 20 2013 19: 14 New
      +1
      The death of Margaret Thatcher, reflected by Russian television channels, did not allow the viewer to figure out what this significant historical figure was, however, gave food for thought about the people working on TV, their worldview and political preferences.
      hi as it is rightly said ... corrupt media, however, what is now not corrupt in our country? Is that the real Russian soul is not for sale ...
  2. Fox
    Fox April 19 2013 06: 57 New
    +6
    but what’s not clear: “whoever pays for a lady dances her! ..” they mourn, mayonnaise spanking, about the sponsor (or the sponsor’s grandmother, or rather). but what pleases, less people watched TV, even sales flattened.
  3. Nesvet Nezar
    Nesvet Nezar April 19 2013 06: 58 New
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    Thatcher is a greedy dumb English sheep.
    1. Basilevs
      Basilevs April 19 2013 09: 09 New
      +6
      Oh no, pay tribute; smart, predatory and evil rat-dog.
  4. ABV
    ABV April 19 2013 07: 01 New
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    Yes, I was struck by the hysteria in the media that caused the death of M. Thatcher. First, as always, I was especially pleased by inserting a film about her into the broadcasting network. It’s a shame to praise and kill so much for a man who hated us and seeks to destroy not only the USSR, but also the entire population of our country! I'm just IN SHOCK!
    1. SlavaS
      SlavaS April 19 2013 08: 18 New
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      Did her statement on TV sound: “It is advisable for 15 million people to live in Russia.”?
      1. aksakal
        aksakal April 19 2013 10: 04 New
        +6
        Quote: SlavaS
        Did her statement on TV sound: “It is advisable for 15 million people to live in Russia.”?

        - not voiced! It’s somehow more convenient to sleep on the ceiling and give birth to hedgehogs there, than to voice the Russian TV THIS at such a minute. Urgant has ceased to respect. Somehow I don’t want to watch his programs anymore.
    2. rolik
      rolik April 19 2013 10: 32 New
      +6
      Quote: ABV
      Yes, I was struck by that hysteria in the media,

      Our television has long turned into a cesspool. Normal programs and deliver in it, 10 percent. The rest is feces, which they are trying to offer us as food for the mind.
      1. stalkerwalker
        stalkerwalker April 19 2013 12: 09 New
        +6
        Quote: rolik
        Our television has long turned into a cesspool

        If we compare our TV with the same TV of the Tin Islands, then immediately there will be a noticeable difference in the quality of broadcasting ("they only have a" figure "on the air, we have the old and the" analogue ")," they "do not muddle their people and country. The number of “blah-blah” shows is an order of magnitude smaller than ours. “There” you can see shows forgotten on our airwaves, such as “In the animal world” and “Cinema Travelers Club.” “Chernukha” is practically absent. There is no dominance on the channels of the same people, such as Urkagant, from whose faces, already sick ...
    3. JonnyT
      JonnyT April 19 2013 11: 42 New
      +2
      What is surprising ??? The owners of the media continue to persistently elevate the image of a glamorous and treacherous s..ki! Like a hint of who should be equal to the younger generation! corrupt media are trying to raise a traitor! Techer witch - who dreamed of destroying everything Russian and plundering our Motherland. None of this film will refute this truth!
  5. Humpty
    Humpty April 19 2013 07: 05 New
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    Like the Zionists who "captured mail and telegraph" like Svanidze, the Melechins like to look like freaks.
    It reminds a joke where the blue dreamed of being a footballer - I hit on goal, past, the platform screams 3,14 ... and my soul is pleased.
    Jokes are jokes, but the main television channels are captured by the enemy. To put it mildly, it is surprising that some Russian state. figures (especially women) openly admire Thatcher, a clear enemy.
    1. Denis
      Denis April 19 2013 07: 30 New
      +6
      Quote: Humpty
      some Russian state. figures (especially female)
      Probably their goal and objectives are similar.
    2. slav4ikus
      slav4ikus April 19 2013 08: 30 New
      +5
      why some? one dubious senator clearly compares her to her beloved
      1. Denis
        Denis April 19 2013 08: 40 New
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        one dubious senator
        b ... Komsomol youth?
        Valentina Matvienko in the media compared herself to Margaret Thatcher, “modestly” noting that they, in her opinion, have a lot in common ...
        So go and guess:
        Whether she, like Thatcher, worships Britain ...
        Whether, like Thatcher, he hates Russia ...
        1. Igarr
          Igarr April 19 2013 11: 54 New
          +2
          Either both ... lie down.
          .
          Do not say, brothers.
          Such a disgrace from the media - well, I did not expect it.
          I thought they would say that she died - that’s all. And then ... sobs, moaning, ending.
          "Inglourious Observations" - a film by K. Tarantino.
          This name characterizes our ... el ... eli ... elite, drenched in shit.
        2. stalkerwalker
          stalkerwalker April 19 2013 12: 13 New
          +3
          Quote: Denis
          Valentina Matvienko in the media compared herself to Margaret Thatcher, “modestly” noting that they, in her opinion, have a lot in common ..

          It is in the spirit of our "elite" - wishful thinking ...
          AND.
          I doubt that Thatcher had a "pogonyalovo" "Margot half a glass." With such a past, she would not have fallen into any administration, even dropping the villages.
        3. folds
          folds April 19 2013 13: 49 New
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          Or was Thatcher in England called Ritka-glass? ;)
  6. Bigriver
    Bigriver April 19 2013 07: 16 New
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    Thatcher is a smart and treacherous enemy of the USSR and Russia.
    The lady draws to the quintessential personification of eternal British policy towards Russia.
    To her death, a program about how she “recruited” Gorbi and contributed to the collapse of the USSR would be useful.
    Enemies must be known in person and studied. And I take the talk about its role in “pushing the world away from the abyss of nuclear war” as a continuation of the liberal propaganda of the 80-90s.
    1. DimychDV
      DimychDV April 19 2013 08: 55 New
      +5
      >> But in this department (our TV), on the contrary, Margaret is an attractive symbol. >> We must stop paying them-and you will see that they will do the same and even better to show arrogance for money.

      Insolence for Russia has always been among the first allies ... with which enemies are no longer necessary. Whose cruisers and shells did the Japanese have in 1904-5? Who clamped cardiff for Russian cruisers at coal stations? And remember a little earlier, the Crimean War? And the Berlin rout of Russian diplomats after Skobelev’s success in Bulgaria? Even earlier - yes here: Golovnin went to the Pacific Ocean in 1807, and then the Tilsit peace happened with Napoleon and me. The impudent men immediately arrested all Russian ships and cargoes, detained our sloop in Cape Town - and ours sunbathed there for almost a year, until Golovnin studied the wind and habits of the English ships and arranged an escape. Again - in the murder of Paul 1, many see the British track.
      For one, though not ashamed - for shooting at point blank range from the cannons of their dragoon regiment near Balaklava (they even made a film about this) - and for the rout in Petropavlovsk-Kamchatsky. Their admiral was so ashore there and shot himself, counting the losses.
      ... But if our kings had at least a third more attention to the East Ocean and the fleet on it, there would have been a better squadron there — they could have threatened their colonies — Singapore and Ceylon with India.
      Kudaaa ... Even they themselves abandoned Hawaii, not to mention Alaska.
    2. antidote
      antidote April 19 2013 16: 14 New
      0
      On Ren TV, there was a program that told how Thatcher recruited humpback
      1. Denis
        Denis April 19 2013 18: 16 New
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        Quote: antidot
        On Ren TV, there was a program that told how Thatcher recruited humpback
        Ren TV is known for her creepy fantasies, but in order to break this ...
        Besides her, no one was more experienced, since when did amateurs begin to trust this?
        Yes, and too early to declassify
  7. Tartary
    Tartary April 19 2013 07: 16 New
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    I remember the broadcast of the negotiations between the PMC and Basayev ...
    I certainly didn’t have any sense of confidence that what was happening would lead to a positive result for Russia ...
    And it was like that - some kind of murky yooh (sort of like in power), speaks menacingly with the main bandit, who has a bunch of armed scumbags behind the wall and a couple of kalashas at arm's length ... Who was Chernomyrdin for him? Ugh! Some Moscow pepper is a parquet politician ...
    Judging by the tone of the conversation, the PMC could not convincingly say anything. Any harsh criminal authority in those days was more intelligible and dangerous than a whole PMC, behind which the army, aviation and navy ...

    It was necessary to wet these impudent bandits regardless of the victims of innocent people - all one happened so that thousands of innocent citizens of Russia, Russians, Chechens, Tatars, etc. were injured. But not Chechens in Ichkeria, and long before the events, the darkness fell under the knives .
    It was necessary to soak in the toilets already then, right away! And in the end, do not let go of blah blah blah on luxury buses under the protection of the federal troops and the Ministry of Internal Affairs - you see, the womb of the Chechens who were alive and their homies from the Middle East would have fallen right away, immediately and forever.

    And M. Thatcher-s.u. was finished ... Both in foreign policy, and for his own people, as it turned out now ... Let him turn now as a “fan” next to Bereza and such muddy “heroes” Stories of the World.
  8. Belogor
    Belogor April 19 2013 07: 17 New
    +4
    It’s high time to clean up the leadership of those channels that have state. support. Some of them simply do not want to be included, it seems that the programs are made only for.
    1. Ustas
      Ustas April 19 2013 07: 42 New
      +7
      Quote: Belogor
      It’s high time to clean up the leadership of those channels that have state. support.

      And who will clean it? The liberal government of the Russian Federation? So it, on the contrary, gives the order to praise the freaks who hate Russia.
      Cabinet of Ministers resigned.
  9. Egoza
    Egoza April 19 2013 07: 18 New
    +8
    The way the TV channels reacted brilliantly shows the mood of their owners. They would also like to destroy the majority of Russia's population. And the way the British themselves celebrated her death proves the true attitude of people to this lady. That's what you need to focus on. It’s a pity that friend Gorby did not go. Sick, poor. And I really wanted ... so that his heart attack would suffice from emotions there.
    And Chernomyrdin will be remembered for a long time for his "immortal statements"
  10. apro
    apro April 19 2013 07: 21 New
    +8
    What a pity that our enemies die in honor and in bed. Margaret Thatcher:
    (Report on the collapse of the USSR, USA, Houston, 11.1991)
    The Soviet Union is a country that posed a serious threat to the Western world. I am not talking about a military threat. She, in fact, was not. Our countries are quite well armed, including nuclear weapons.
    I mean the economic threat. Thanks to a planned policy and a peculiar combination of moral and material incentives, the Soviet Union managed to achieve high economic indicators. The percentage of growth in gross national product was approximately two times higher than in our countries. If we take into account the enormous natural resources of the USSR, then with the rational management of the economy the Soviet Union had very real opportunities to oust us from world markets.
    Therefore, we have always taken actions aimed at weakening the economy of the Soviet Union and creating internal difficulties for it.
  11. Denis
    Denis April 19 2013 07: 22 New
    +3
    provided food for thought about people working on TV, their worldview and political preferences
    About their views and about them, and so it is clear since TV is the faithful shout of homosexual
    Maybe I should say like J. Hasek in "Adventures of the Good Soldier Schweik":
    "-Killed then our Ferdinand
    - I know two, one accidentally drank hair growth fluid, and the other collects the dog ..., and I don’t feel sorry for both of them
  12. ramsi
    ramsi April 19 2013 07: 34 New
    +4
    Well, why be surprised? What is the top - such is the servant
    1. explorer
      explorer April 19 2013 12: 02 New
      +1
      Quote: ramsi
      Well, why be surprised? What is the top - such is the servant


      Cho too shy, say directly: what a bar, such and lackeys. wink
  13. Boot under the carpet
    Boot under the carpet April 19 2013 07: 40 New
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    I did not understand our television at all. Many acquaintances say: "Imagine, Thatcher is dead!" I still do not understand what's in it for Russia. Died and hell would be with her! That's for someone, but I certainly will not grieve for the British! Some kind of nonsense! We must honor our people, not horseradish from the hill!
  14. Grbear
    Grbear April 19 2013 07: 41 New
    +4
    Thatcher is a lioness, but dead. And let those who are supposed to do it (God and worms), but not the TV that represents Russia. Thatcher, Berezovsky, PMC, soon the EBN is not a TV, a team of mourners, with an “accented” assessment of their role in the life of the country. I understand - the right of a journalist, but you need to learn from Thatcher, to defend the interests of YOUR country.
  15. Averias
    Averias April 19 2013 08: 02 New
    +5
    We canonize Judas, trample Heroes into the mud and put into oblivion. This is the Apocalypse of our day.
  16. lewerlin53rus
    lewerlin53rus April 19 2013 08: 07 New
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    Yeah, well, she loves our TV with the tears that have come up with emotion for days to tell us about the "achievements" of all the Western leaders who have rested in the Bose, forgetting how much harm they have done to our country. Just because they hated the USSR does not mean that after its collapse they fell in love with Russia. Is it really hard for someone to understand that by harming the country, they were harming its people as well.
    And how many tears were shed at one time about the death of Princess Diana, who is no one to us at all. And in those same days, our great Artist Yuri Nikulin died, which was reported as if in a slip. And direct reports and moaning from the deathbed of the Pole Wojtyla, who laid down his life in the fight against the USSR. Now, here is the funeral of the Iron Lady.
    And now we are waiting for who is next. Maybe this one:
    1. omsbon
      omsbon April 19 2013 08: 49 New
      +4
      Yes, we will not grieve, but we are upset that we could not judge!
    2. JonnyT
      JonnyT April 19 2013 11: 57 New
      +1
      Devils do not take Gobachev, because they are afraid that he will destroy even hell!)) wassat

      Our people are different ... I try not to talk badly about the dead ......
  17. AndreyAB
    AndreyAB April 19 2013 08: 09 New
    +3
    Yes, Russia can only remember this, so to speak, lady - one of the most convinced enemies of Russia, because Margot’s hatred of Russia knew no bounds.
  18. GreatRussia
    GreatRussia April 19 2013 08: 26 New
    +3
    Quote: Humpty
    Like the Zionists who "captured mail and telegraph" like Svanidze, the Melechins like to look like freaks.
    It reminds a joke where the blue dreamed of being a footballer - I hit on goal, past, the platform screams 3,14 ... and my soul is pleased.
    Jokes are jokes, but the main television channels are captured by the enemy. To put it mildly, it is surprising that some Russian state. figures (especially women) openly admire Thatcher, a clear enemy.



    Notice that the source is the most to eat ....


    [i] Of course, we are not Vladimir Volfovich and are not going to calculate how many "ethnically impure" elements are on our television. Doing this is both stupid and anti-human. We just want to understand what is the contribution of Jews to the domestic (so it happened!) TV.

    The fact that this contribution was quite a lot could be seen the other day by seeing the next ceremony for the television workers to present TEFI figurines to each other (the work, by the way, of Ernst the Unknown). Among those who stood on the stage, went up on stage, didn’t fall on it and just sat in the auditorium there were many people who were of interest to us.

    Their creative achievements and accomplishments will be discussed below. We will say right away that the Jewish theme as such is rarely raised on our television and usually after midnight (as happened recently in the new program of Boris Berman and Ildar Zhindarev “Without Protocol” when the country's chief rabbi came to visit them). We do not particularly show Israeli TV shows and programs. Another premiere of TV-6 became a good swallow in this sense (meaning “Countdown” - an excellent game translated from Hebrew).

    National Jewish holidays are also not favored by domestic TV, except that local channels will show the opening ceremony of the next festival or Hanukkah concert. And, of course, in the news, everyone and everyone (and with a different accent) is talking about the visits of the Israeli minister, the meetings of the Knesset and the terrorist attacks of the Palestinians.

    So, rather, on our television, not a Jewish note sounds, but an Israeli note itself (which, of course, is not the same thing).
    1. GreatRussia
      GreatRussia April 19 2013 08: 26 New
      +1
      This is all the more offensive because there are plenty of people of a certain nationality among our television people, and one of them could make a rating "national" program for a long time. However, instead of empty dreams, we turn to reality.

      And let's start with the main, state, albeit second in order number, channel. Here, along with his Mirror, Nikolai Svanidze makes diagnoses for the whole country; invariable "Good morning" wish this country Sasha and Lolita; and finally, the country is entertained by the ageless Regina Dubovitskaya and her dubious “Full House”; as well as the cheerful Aleksandr Gurevich with his too tenacious "One to One".

      Let’s add here to Klara Novikova, who is figuring out in line with Elena Yakovleva what a woman wants and has long ceased to be ridiculous “Gorodok” with Oleinikov-Stoyanov, who still inhabit it (and receive the Television Academy award for this simple matter).

      We especially note the rapidly gaining momentum and in the blink of an eye became the general producer of the channel Valery Todorovsky, who was recently responsible for the series. In the "multi-series" produced by the young director, there is so far nothing specifically Jewish √ but in the new movie, which "Russia" twists tirelessly, is full of national names, surnames and heroes.

      In general, as you have probably already seen, we do not have state anti-Semitism (as well as the propaganda of Zionism)!

      They are not on another, semi-state channel, the former estate of Berezovsky. But do not really consider the programs of the rude-minded Leonid Yakubovich, the astonishing Maxim Galkin, the always enthusiastic-hoarse Vitaly Wulf, to be specifically "Jewish". Neither unsinkable KVN (where both the jury and the stage play a lot of ours in fun and resourcefulness), neither the eternal "Jumble", nor the surviving "What? Where? When?" to the topic, in general, do not apply. And even the Poznerian "Times", with all due respect to the President of the Russian Television Academy, "raise the Jewish question" infrequently.
  19. GreatRussia
    GreatRussia April 19 2013 08: 27 New
    +3
    Where "ours" is apparently invisible, so it is on the channel "Culture"It’s not without reason that Minister Shvydkoy manages our culture. In addition to classical music concerts performed by violinists and cosmopolitan conductors, films about the Holocaust and programs about Soviet scouts, you can watch programs from such specialists as wonderful brilliant Yuri Bashmet, Artem Vargaftik, full of self-esteem Alexander Belinsky, and handsome Igor Butman , pompous Yuri Mamin, always confused and childishly naive Nika Strizhak.

    Not to mention the retrospectives of the classics of the domestic fiction and documentary films, of numerous cartoons and cultural news not devoid of Jewish colors. However, do not expect sharp questions or truly ethnographic stories from this channel with state symbols.

    They will be found on another √ recently unknown √ channel, the current estate of the already mentioned Berezovsky. And reports from hot spots (including from Palestine), and heated discussions on the Arab question, and spelling things by their proper names (black and black, anti-Semitism √ anti-Semitism) migrated from the old NTV to the new TV-6.

    Together with the witty and artistic Viktor Shenderovich, growing before the eyes of the granddaughter of the composer Listov Lisa, namesake Levins √ chief producer and chief designer.

    However, the main thing is not who is who, but who works. And the new old channel works for fame, constantly releasing new programs, experimenting with both content and design. Not shying away from the so-called "Jewish theme."

    It is no coincidence that in Israel, where our first, second and fourth buttons used to be watched, now they are switching over to the Six. Indeed, what difference does it make, what nationality is television, it is important that it is REAL.

    PS We did not list all the Jews from the TV at all. Behind the scenes were Leonid Yarmolnik with his “L-club”, and the know-it-all Ganapolsky with his “Detective Club”, and the nimble Savik Shuster with his many projects, and Andrei Makarevich under his delicious lampshade, and Mikhail Shirvindt and dogs from Dog show ". [/ i]

    "Jewish Magazine"


    http://www.sem40.ru/famous2/e259.shtml
  20. Lech from ZATULINKI
    Lech from ZATULINKI April 19 2013 08: 35 New
    +3
    our INTELLIGENCE on TV should promote knowledge and culture among the people and not engage in politics and, moreover, teach our people how to live.
    Goebels is immediately remembered under the name SWANIDZE - something that SWANIDZE reminds him of.
    As for the THATCHER, a whole era of frank RUSOFOBS left with her — this cannot but rejoice, no matter how cynical it sounds.
  21. Black
    Black April 19 2013 08: 39 New
    +2
    CT is a reflection of the views and moods of the country's ruling elite. On church bells they sometimes wrote: “Whom I love, I will bestow (I bestow!).” We look and draw conclusions about values ​​and priorities.
  22. Tartary
    Tartary April 19 2013 08: 39 New
    +1
    Quote: GreatRussia
    and long ago ceased to be ridiculous "Gorodok" with Oleinikov-Stoyanov, still inhabiting it (and receiving the Television Academy award for this simple matter).

    Everything written by you here in the posts draws to a separate article, which you quoted from somewhere - an ancient article, because Oleinikov is no longer alive, but clearly relevant ...
  23. dark_65
    dark_65 April 19 2013 08: 43 New
    +2
    By and large, we already live in a quiet occupation, starting at age 85, we will survive, but it is difficult for our consciousness to wake up in all this shit.
  24. nod739
    nod739 April 19 2013 08: 44 New
    +2
    Quote: lewerlin53rus
    Is it really hard for someone to understand that by harming the country, they were harming its people as well.


    THIS IS THE MOST KEY PHRASE +

    и
    all this confirms that people forget how to THINK, SEE, ANALYSIS, but only listen to what the TV says
  25. erased
    erased April 19 2013 08: 46 New
    +1
    One enemy is external, the other is internal. And they almost raise both of them as heroes. And then who are these builders? Certainly not their own.
  26. GreatRussia
    GreatRussia April 19 2013 08: 46 New
    +1
    Quote: Tartary

    Everything written by you here in the posts draws to a separate article, which you quoted from somewhere - an ancient article, because Oleinikov is no longer alive,

    Correct you.
    Not written, but quoted by me.))))

    "Jewish Magazine"
    http://www.sem40.ru/famous2/e259.shtml


    Quote: Tartary

    but clearly relevant ...

    So I unfortunately did not notice any changes.
  27. Standard Oil
    Standard Oil April 19 2013 08: 50 New
    +2
    "100-200 thousand people will be enough for Russia to service a gas pipe"
    M. Thatcher
    1. stalkerwalker
      stalkerwalker April 19 2013 12: 18 New
      +4
      Quote: Standard Oil
      "100-200 thousand people will be enough for Russia to service a gas pipe"
      M. Thatcher

      You're wrong.
      This deceased spoke of 15 (fifteen) thousand. And she corrected the translator when he too, taken aback by such a figure and tone of statement, tried to translate as fifty thousand.
      Which, in principle, does not play a special role.
      Already wrote that the Lord God sent her to the Babu lawyers.
      1. Standard Oil
        Standard Oil April 19 2013 12: 34 New
        0
        Perhaps it is possible that in hell they should take a larger pan for it and fry it with Russian gas.
      2. stalkerwalker
        stalkerwalker April 19 2013 16: 40 New
        +4
        Quote: stalkerwalker
        about 15 (fifteen) thousand.

        Wrong.
        I beg your pardon.
        The figure in 15 millions was announced.
        Which, however, does not change anything.
        1. Ruslan67
          Ruslan67 April 19 2013 18: 23 New
          +2
          Quote: stalkerwalker
          Wrong.
          I beg your pardon.

          Wrong twice this is not Thatcher said a toad-like Albright hi
  28. Uncle lee
    Uncle lee April 19 2013 08: 59 New
    +7
    These figures should meet in the same pan .. And about TV, so now I look more about little animals, no politics, and rest my soul
  29. Jurkovs
    Jurkovs April 19 2013 09: 15 New
    +4
    Our TV outrages me no longer where. Well, there was nothing more to talk about, even a rehearsal of the funeral was shown all day. The complete lack of self-esteem. The central channels are with our money, but we are zombified with European values. Can arrange a public public re-certification of the leadership of all channels?
  30. wulf66
    wulf66 April 19 2013 09: 19 New
    +1
    One, supposedly metallized abomination, spoiled us in a purely Anglo-Saxon manner - not in a fair fight, but from the underside, with the help of a labeled freak. And the second, pompous Fabian, with a smart look humiliated us all, with his negotiations with the murderers of children and women. All this aroused nothing but disgust.
  31. mike_z
    mike_z April 19 2013 09: 19 New
    +5
    My commander, already quoted on this site, is Vice Admiral G.A. Radzevsky often used to say to us: "History does not teach, it teaches lessons!" This is one of his aphorisms. What lesson are they trying to teach us from the screen about recent (recent) history? But the one that is described in the article - enemies become friends, traitors heroes. Say - do not watch TV, as prof. Preobrazhensky said about Soviet newspapers? Good thought, but it will not work, because you will fly out of the information field. Well, I ... but youngsters take everything at face value.
    There is nothing to say about M. Thatcher; let her United Kingdom mourn or spit, it is not our business. And I will remember the anecdote of those years: “Gorbachev gets up from Thatcher’s bed, wipes yourself, you know what he says and says:“ I was glad to crush the whole bourgeoisie of England at once, ”and Margaret answered from bed:“ I was pleased to feel the end of communism ” Political jokes reflect reality, but now they are not there. An alarming sign.
    But this is not an anecdote - remember ChVSovskoe in Buinaksk: "Shamil Basaev, Shamil Basaev ..." I still wanted to shoot this ... prime minister.
    And then - the opening of the monument to EBN in Sverdlovsk, Medvedev, pathos ... They still did not demolish this statue, but the Slovlovites ?! It is high time. In my hometown of Penza, they wanted to name the new library by the name of EBN (I said then that my legs would not be in it, despite the invitation), thank God - they refused, they left the name of Lermontov. Well done!
    Here are such lessons. And the memories on TV about these characters, as about the saviors of Russia! And while this is the case, nothing will change in our country.
  32. valokordin
    valokordin April 19 2013 09: 25 New
    +5
    All this abomination that came to power in 1991, which was consumed by the Soviet riches obtained (not stolen), which, by the way, did not choke, these arrogant faces of Svinadze, PMC, EBN, Red and other bullshit will constantly praise both dead and living embezzlers. All of them praise and to their heart press their native image of the eternal enemy M. Thatcher. And of course, the former Soviet ambassador to Greece, whose son is a dollar billionaire, also seeks to cling to this person. Surprised by the affectionate, sacred sobbing of the former Soviet Prime Minister Ryzhkov about another baroness who had gone into the world. Soon the Great Celebration, our leaders will publicly remember with great fanfare the great feat of the Soviet people, having laid mud on the Generalisimus, will enthusiastically cry about the main creators of the Victory-penalty companies and battalions, and then forget it until the next holiday, and the surviving WWII veterans will hope for the promised separate apartment, and at this time Madame Vasiliev will continue to languish in the terrible dungeons of a 13-room apartment. Here it is reality and justice.
  33. krez-74
    krez-74 April 19 2013 10: 03 New
    +1
    I completely agree !
  34. Gur
    Gur April 19 2013 10: 08 New
    +3
    Damn, nothing comes to mind .. except as obscenities, on us and our government, on the one hand we allow us to do this, on the other they are happy to try. I wonder if our people have enough courage and determination on the next anniversary of EBN to drink champagne and shout out “The damned sweeper died”, is it true that this will change? not a damn thing, and our education is either good or silent. Only such education is not visible to everyone, or not our people, or too ours, which is only good and it doesn’t matter about whom.
  35. mike_z
    mike_z April 19 2013 10: 22 New
    +2
    Quote: GUR
    I wonder if our people have enough courage and determination on the next anniversary of EBN to drink champagne and shout out, “Cursed sweeper died”

    I don’t know how the people have, but for me personally - that's enough! I am very well-educated and generally not capable of this, but this ... I will mark with homies as a holiday. By the way, when tell me, I don’t remember such dates.
  36. ughhh
    ughhh April 19 2013 10: 37 New
    +2
    Once again, I hear that the entire telebraty is corrupt through and through, and the best place for the TV box is in the trash.
  37. Goldmitro
    Goldmitro April 19 2013 11: 12 New
    +1
    <<< But for this, television workers must at least consider Thatcher an enemy. But in this department, on the contrary, Margaret is an attractive symbol. >>>
    As true liberals of the Western spill, quietly indulging in geymocratic universal human market values, they are obviously in solidarity with Thatcher's expressed opinion that in Russia it is enough to have a population of 45 million people to serve the oil and gas pipe serving the West. The rest of the population of Russia, presumably, referred to by the liberal directly as KID on earth, has nothing to do! This is a non-reformed and non-re-educated BALLAST, which you must get rid of! Naturally, they include their loved ones in these 45 million, in the elite, which will be the first to be admitted to the Western financial trough for their faithful service to the West!
  38. Pit
    Pit April 19 2013 11: 13 New
    +8
    wink fellow bully ppppppppppppppppppppp
  39. POMA
    POMA April 19 2013 11: 36 New
    +2
    Thank you guys for being there, it's nice to read, debate. Yes, and look at the scrambler, I already have 5 accounts blocked, I also have to fight at the Internet level.
  40. stalkerwalker
    stalkerwalker April 19 2013 12: 22 New
    +3
    Thankfully, our TV leadership had the courage to show on the news the opinions of ordinary Englishmen and Irish, who literally rejoiced at Thatcher's death and sang a song from the children's movie "Ding Dong, the witch is dead!".
    I wonder what songs the Russian people will sing at the funeral of "hunchback", "red" and other "companions"?
    recourse
    1. explorer
      explorer April 19 2013 13: 45 New
      +1
      Quote: stalkerwalker
      I wonder what songs the Russian people will sing at the funeral of "hunchback", "red" and other "companions"?


      the rehearsal was already in 2009, when Gaidar was handed over to Satan:
      mail.ru was forced to remove the "wishes of a good journey." It was interesting to compare them with condolences at that moment on the death of Turchinsky.
  41. Standard Oil
    Standard Oil April 19 2013 13: 04 New
    0
    But to collect all together in a warm, cozy frying pan, remember the past times ... am
  42. Comrade1945
    Comrade1945 April 19 2013 13: 46 New
    +1
    Good buy, old witch!
    Tagged will be soon.

    PS
    Although this is not at all Khrestian, but ...
    I solemnly promise that I will drink a bottle of good sparkling wine, celebrating the day when the humpback bastard leaves for another world, where, as stated in the famous obscene poem by Luca M., "there is neither ... nor sadness"
  43. Vtel
    Vtel April 19 2013 13: 59 New
    +2
    Our TV men must be sent with entwine praise not for a week not to Komarovo, but to Argentina. All "our" media are run by zhiddy and their henchmen, this can be seen on the main channel of the NTV - named after Gusinsky, you just have to look into the menu. The rest of the channels are as if ours, but not ours - with a kosher douche, you understand.
    Anto the media itself is doing a great job of decomposing Russian low-clothing. And in order to “love” them for this, sometimes you look and the film skips about how they love Russia and all the troubles we have from us are “drunk and stupid”.
  44. vlbelugin
    vlbelugin April 19 2013 14: 38 New
    +2
    There were people in our time ...
    In 1977, in the spring, Margaret blundered something towards the USSR. So L.I. Brezhnev, who is now remembered as an eccentric and so on, said, I do not remember verbatim, but the meaning is this. Let this lady not speak to the USSR for two submarines are enough for us to lower this island (England) to the bottom of the ocean. After that, Margaret became almost our friend. And after that she stated that the presence of nuclear weapons is the guarantor of peace. Why remember? In the audience, he studied at the school, there was a receiver and every half an hour the “Mayak” transmitted a statement by the Secretary General of the CPSU Central Committee, Leonid Brezhnev.
    Yes, they could once talk to the West.
    1. Denis
      Denis April 19 2013 18: 20 New
      0
      Quote: vlbelugin
      Yes, they could once talk to the West
      There were people!
      not like this:
  45. kind
    kind April 19 2013 14: 40 New
    -1
    She will not harm anyone anymore; talking about the dead is either good or nothing. So let's be quiet.
  46. GreatRussia
    GreatRussia April 19 2013 20: 06 New
    +1

    Gelman opens an exhibition in Perm, for which he was spat in the face in Krasnodar.

    http://www.permm.ru/menu/pressa-o-nas/gelman-otkryivaet-v-permi vyistavku,-za-ko

    toruyu-v-krasnodare-emu-plyunuli-v-liczo.-permskie-veruyushhie-obizhayutsya-na-b



    asargina-za-molchanie.html



    And the natural response to the endless provocations of this Russophobic rabble:



    The invitation did not find extremism
    Verification of the distribution of leaflets has been completed.
    Investigative authorities of the Investigative Committee of the ICR found no signs of inciting ethnic hatred in distributing leaflets, the content of which some residents of Perm considered extremist. Recall that the text of the leaflets contained an appeal to all Jews and representatives of other nationalities to gather in the PERMM museum with a stock of food and valuable things. This decision was made following a linguistic examination.


    Recall leaflets were posted in the center of Perm on June 29. On pink paper with the emblem of a black eagle, similar to the image of an eagle, which was the emblem of the NSDAP, appeal to all Perm Jews and national diasporas. According to the text, they were invited to gather in the premises of the PERMM Museum of Modern Art on the opening day of the Russia for All exhibition. “Take food for two days, gold and valuables with you.” Attendance is required, ”the report said. Under the leaflet was the signature “commandant of the commandant’s office”.
    Read more: http://www.kommersant.ru/doc-y/1691277
    http://www.kommersant.ru/doc-y/1691277