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"Accidentally at the Russian borders"

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"Accidentally at the Russian borders"Moscow did not see any signs of US refusal from Euro-PRO, said Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov. According to him, Washington, by contrast, now intends to deploy its system in three regions, “accidentally” bordering Russia. There were at the head of Russian diplomacy and other claims to the United States.


Russia did not believe in the decision of the United States to partially abandon missile defense in Europe.

“I didn’t hear or see indisputability about this in American statements. They cannot do this, because the US Congress even during the last convocation forbade any changes without consulting the legislators, ”said Sergey Lavrov in an interview with RTVI.

No illusions

Recall that in March the United States announced its intention to abandon the deployment in Poland of an additional type of interceptor missiles as part of the creation of an European missile defense system, as well as a program to strengthen anti-missile defense before 2017 due to North Korea’s threats. However, according to Lavrov, the new configuration still remains within the framework of the global US missile defense system. Moreover, Washington’s intention to deploy missile defense not only in Europe, but also in the Middle and Far East, only heightens Russia's concern.

“Thus, it is not only the European part of the globe, but three large regions, each of which coincidentally or accidentally lies quite close to the Russian borders. We do not suspect anyone of anything, but, as one great commander said, in military affairs it’s not the intention that is important, but the potential. "Chekhov's gun" is based on the same logic, "he stressed.

According to the minister, Moscow will continue to seek legal guarantees of non-directional missile defense against Russia, since it cannot rely on promises given in words. “When the USSR withdrew its troops from Europe, we were sworn to promise at the highest level that NATO would not spread eastward. Then, when, despite assurances at the highest level, the alliance nevertheless began to expand in this direction, we were again convinced that no substantial combat forces would be permanently stationed on the territory of the new NATO member states. This was even recorded when the Russia-NATO Council was established, ”he recalled.

At the same time, the minister continued, NATO still refuses proposals from Russia to give a clear definition of the concept of “substantial combat forces.” “But we need not only legal guarantees, but an agreed list of criteria, which allows us to verify at each particular stage that these guarantees are being fulfilled and that the development of US missile defense on a global scale is in such a way as to meet the originally stated goal. Namely: to stop rocket threats from outside the Euro-Atlantic region, ”he explained.

"This is our problem."

Touching on other topics of Russian-American relations, Lavrov reaffirmed that the adoption of the Magnitsky Act in the United States was the result of lobbying by the head of the Hermitage capital investment fund, William Browder, illegally enriched in Russia.

“This is a frank anti-Russian action, conceived, as far as can be judged, by people quite sophisticated in politics and undertaken not without the influence of Browder. He most actively lobbied this law on Capitol Hill, and then it rushed around all European countries and proposed “anti-magnet laws” to be adopted in European parliaments, ”the Foreign Minister emphasized.

Speaking about the death of Magnitsky, Lavrov called her a terrible tragedy. “When people die in prisons, this is very bad. But the case with Magnitsky is our problem, ”he added.

At the same time, the minister added that Russia has many complaints against American justice. “There are a lot of complaints about the US judicial system. The same sentences against murderers and rapists of Russian children. Many are released in the courtroom, given suspended sentences for real facts, when irreparable damage is caused to children. At the same time, our citizens are being robbed, Yaroshenko was stolen from Liberia, or illegally taken out of the country, as Bout was taken out of Thailand in violation of Thai laws, ”he recalled.

According to him, both of them were provoked by American agents, who, in fact, "lured them into talking about providing transportation services to someone."

The minister recalled the American authorities and the Guantanamo prison. “The very fact of a prison in Guantanamo is a shame. And the fact that they do not close it is explained openly, without embarrassment, with one motive: “If we transfer them to the USA, we will have no legal grounds for keeping them in prison. Therefore, we keep them without trial. What we want is what we are doing: we are trying, not trying. ” No one checks or controls this prison, ”the minister explained.

Separately, Lavrov touched upon the situation with Russian children adopted by families from the United States. According to him, Moscow admits that the number of incidents with adopted children may be more than what is known to the Russian authorities.

“The fact that such accidents can be much more, says a general analysis of the situation with the adoption in the United States not only Russian, but also any other children, including American ones. After these stories they began to scandalously appear in the press and stir up our public opinion; American citizens and NGOs appealed to the Russian embassy in Washington, telling that they have a family in the state, in the village, in the city, who mocks their children, and everyone sees this. They were interested in whether this was a Russian child, and therefore appealed to the Russian embassy, ​​”Lavrov said.

According to him, 21 is currently aware of the case of bullying Russian children in the United States. “And how many such children we still do not know, since we do not have the opportunity to track down the“ adopted routes ”. This is especially true of what happened in the 90s. Moreover, when adopting a child from Russia, as well as from any other country, in the USA he is given an American name, in all documents he passes under the last name given to him by American parents, ”he added.
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  1. Vanek
    Vanek April 15 2013 06: 29 New
    19
    "Accidentally at the Russian borders"

    Accidents are not accidental.

    Hello to everyone. hi
    1. Nick
      Nick April 15 2013 08: 22 New
      11
      Quote: Vanek
      Accidents are not accidental.

      I realized at school that randomness was not a calculated rule by someone. But seriously, let's think about whether the global missile defense around our borders would be so relevant for the United States, if American government worked in our government, Russian ministers were appointed only after the approval of the US State Department, did NATO observers work at Russian military facilities and defense industry enterprises? After all, all this was in Yeltsin’s times and not about any EuroPro then there was no talk.
      The conclusion suggests itself - some people in the West do not like the current changes in Russian politics, hence the attempts to put pressure on us, including through the notorious missile defense system ...
      1. alex-defensor
        alex-defensor April 15 2013 08: 56 New
        23
        USA, as a state, must be DISMANTLED !!! This is necessary to save humanity, including US citizens themselves.
      2. Kolya
        Kolya April 15 2013 09: 33 New
        +6
        Stop listening to this childish simplicity of the lie that the US missile defense is not against Russia. What guarantees??? They will deliver missile defense, and our guarantee is if our strategic weapons can overcome it. Stopping the drain of money from Russia is another guarantee of ours; part of the money withdrawn in the United States settles.
        1. S_mirnov
          S_mirnov April 15 2013 11: 12 New
          -4
          "Stop listening to this childlike simplicity that the US missile defense is not against Russia." Stop listening to Lavrov’s babble! "We don’t suspect anyone of anything," - since you don’t suspect anyone, don’t try in vain, and if you suspect all the same, act!
          "Moscow will continue to seek legal guarantees of missile defense against Russia," - kindergarten! At the head of the country with us? / What? LAWYERS! Holy believers in legal guarantees!
          The spineless policy of the Russian Federation is simply depressing, if we would learn from the DPRK to defend our interests, but we don’t see eggs or are afraid for our foreign accounts and property. And how can the head of state pursue his own policy when his daughters live in Europe?
          1. kosmos84
            kosmos84 April 15 2013 19: 14 New
            +1
            all right drinks я
        2. stalkerwalker
          stalkerwalker April 15 2013 19: 32 New
          +7
          Quote: Kohl
          Stop listening to this childish simplicity of the lie that the US missile defense is not against Russia. What guarantees???

          In attempts to achieve world domination by any means, no guarantees can be guarantees as such (sorry for taftology).
          70 more than years ago, the USSR received a "guarantee" from Germany.
          Any guarantee ceases to be a guarantee when the need for this guarantee ceases to be.
          repeat
    2. elmi
      elmi April 15 2013 14: 16 New
      +5
      According to him, Washington, on the contrary, intends to deploy its system in three regions, “Accidentally” bordering Russia.

      We also need to deploy air defense near the borders of the United States, supposedly accidentally finding themselves close to their territory, for example in Cuba, in Venezuela from the threat of terrorists
      1. S_mirnov
        S_mirnov April 15 2013 22: 57 New
        +1
        "We also need to deploy air defense near the borders of the United States" - for this we need money, i.e. it is necessary to redirect profits from the sale of minerals to the side of the state (or to really raise the economy), neither one nor the other modern authorities are able to do.
    3. starshina78
      starshina78 April 15 2013 19: 11 New
      +6
      The Americans tried in the days of the USSR to arrest, and subsequently take the Soviet man out of Thailand or elsewhere. Immediately off the coast of Thailand or Liberia appeared our ships with marines, which were permanently located in the Indian Ocean and the Atlantic. Not a single case like this has ever happened. What is this talking about? Or that they are not afraid of us, or that they are not taken seriously. And this is already bad! In response, they would take ours, accuse or provoke some American to commit an illegal act against Russia, and take him to Russia, and here they would give him a term of three hundred years for an attempted coup. This would be a normal response to their lawlessness. But no one will dare to it. And for what reason - cowardice or fear - is already unknown.
      1. S_mirnov
        S_mirnov April 15 2013 23: 00 New
        -1
        “Our ships with marines appeared right off the coast of Thailand or Liberia,” - what do you mean, if the Americans arrest all foreign accounts of our officials and generals in response? And if the property is taken? Here, because of the list of Magnitsky, the howl to the whole of the Russian Federation is a hundred, and you are talking about such a clear disobedience. You are so accused of extremism or of insulting the feelings of believers in GDP wink
      2. Nick
        Nick April 16 2013 00: 12 New
        +1
        Quote: starshina78
        The Americans tried in the days of the USSR to arrest, and subsequently take out a Soviet man from Thailand or somewhere else ... Not a single case like this happened ...

        There were similar cases. In the mid-80s, amers stole our embassy employee, it seems, from Italy and secretly transported him to the States. They tried, but he managed to get away from them and get to our embassy. The case then was limited to a press conference and other diplomatic delights. There were no serious consequences for the States.
  2. VadimSt
    VadimSt April 15 2013 06: 32 New
    +8
    It’s high time to say the United States and the European Union: - “They don’t go to someone’s monastery with their charter!”
    It is good to hear, from the lips of S. Lavrov, the words of the statesman.
    1. Sirocco
      Sirocco April 15 2013 07: 06 New
      +7
      You know Vadim, today it becomes fundamentally important for the West to prevent the emergence of a major raw material power with a high geopolitical status. Of course, politics is a delicate matter, and there is a lot of incomprehensibility in it, like the fact that we still call the EU and the USA "Partners." Hedgehog it is clear that we are competitors, and to be honest, enemies. And the latest actions of the EU (represented by Germany and the USA) in relation to Russian savings in Cyprus banks, confirmation of this. The EU in a difficult situation, although they shout about the fact that Germany is tired of pulling everyone and financing, it’s a lie. Germany is next to the United States, two parasites on the body of the planet that earn Looting. Pay attention to the situation as a carbon copy is similar to the one that was 100 years ago, before the 2nd World War. And who is interested in arranging such historical deja vu for us? Naturally USA and partners. Honestly, I don’t have any desire to comment on our relations, all one thing, but because. It is time for Russia to move from words to action. And tie with this swagger and hypocrisy. It is good to make knicksen before the EU.
      1. rolik
        rolik April 15 2013 18: 42 New
        +3
        Quote: Sirocco
        And the latest EU actions (represented by Germany and the USA) in relation to Russian savings in Cyprus banks

        For us and the answer came to Cyprus. In Moscow, the court won on the application of the depositor of one of the Cypriot banks. By a court decision in Russia, accounts were seized at the branch of this bank (until the full repayment of the depositor’s claim), and operations were suspended. So, our money will be returned. Arrest money of branches, assets. Nefig Cyprus lifted his paw, now let him pay.
        1. stalkerwalker
          stalkerwalker April 15 2013 19: 38 New
          +5
          Quote: rolik
          Nefig Cyprus lifted his paw, now let him pay.

          And why should Cyprus deal with this garbage? They were ordered - Cyprus replied "Yes!".
          And now, after the fact, the Cypriot prime minister offers the Russians, depositors in the local banks, Cypriot citizenship as a weak compensation and an illusory guarantee against further EU "money dues".
    2. Phantom Revolution
      Phantom Revolution April 15 2013 08: 44 New
      +2
      Politics, it is necessary to prove to society that this is not so, and that the American and European society is easily washed. Let's just say it all again about the bloody tyranny scream when needed.
  3. Ragnarek
    Ragnarek April 15 2013 06: 45 New
    +9
    What are the legal guarantees in FIG? need to arm and plant poplars along the borders
  4. nokki
    nokki April 15 2013 06: 47 New
    12
    It is good to hear, from the lips of S. Lavrov, the words of the statesman.

    "A good word backed by a gun is always more convincing than just a good word."
    (Al Capone)
    1. Nick
      Nick April 15 2013 08: 26 New
      +2
      Quote: nokki
      A good word backed by a gun is always more convincing than just a good word. "

      I add, "even if it is written on good paper ..." wink
  5. fenix57
    fenix57 April 15 2013 06: 51 New
    +5
    Recall the pact "Molotov-Ribbentrop" and definitely not believe the amers. It is right. good
    The Magnitsky Act, as well as the Dima Yakovlev law, is nothing more than a “game of politicians”. If there are border guards, they know that the lists for people who were denied entry to the Russian Federation were, are and will be. And the person indicated in the list is not allowed into the territory of the Russian Federation WITHOUT AN EXPLANATION OF REASONS. soldier stop
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov April 15 2013 07: 40 New
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      Quote: fenix57
      . And the person indicated in the list is not allowed into the territory of the Russian Federation WITHOUT AN EXPLANATION OF REASONS.

      It would be nice for us to add Nemtsov, Alekseev, Navalny to this list, the guys have left, but they are not allowed to return. We understand the list laughing
      1. Vrungel78
        Vrungel78 April 15 2013 13: 22 New
        +4
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        It would be nice for us to add Nemtsov, Alekseev, Navalny to this list, the guys have left, but they are not allowed to return.

        And it’s even better not to let them go there. Let them live on the plane laughing
        1. Hudo
          Hudo April 15 2013 17: 49 New
          0
          Quote: Vrungel78
          And it’s even better not to let them go there. Let them laugh on the plane


          Something like this, changing only Rome, to Fashington.

      2. vadson
        vadson April 15 2013 18: 45 New
        +2
        as soon as they will not be allowed into Russia, then they will not need a fuck
  6. Belogor
    Belogor April 15 2013 06: 51 New
    +2
    all these Anglo-Saxons understand only the asymmetric responses to their actions, and when the howl rises, it means it is numb.
  7. mogus
    mogus April 15 2013 07: 00 New
    +4
    Interesting ... Get legal guarantees from the USA about not expanding NAziTO. bees against honey! Spring, poplar "bloom" will begin soon. It would be necessary more often parks, with poplars ...
  8. Kaa
    Kaa April 15 2013 07: 00 New
    +1
    The US government today unveiled a list of Russian officials against whom unilateral sanctions are being imposed in accordance with the Sergei Magnitsky Act on the Rule of Law and Accountability, passed by the US Congress last December. This list, submitted by the US Treasury Department, includes 18 people. There are no officials of the highest rank on the list. The list includes: 1. former investigator of the Investigative Department Karpov Pavel,
    2. senior adviser to justice Logunov Oleg, 3. former head of the Butyrsky pre-trial detention center Komnov Dmitry,
    4. judge of the Tver court of Moscow Krivoruchko Alexei 5. judge of the Tver court of Moscow Sergey Podoprigorov 6. judge of the Tver court of Moscow Stashina Elena, 7. judge of the Tver court of Moscow Ukhnaleva Svetlana, 8. Head of the Moscow tax inspection Stepanova Olga, 9. Head of the Moscow Tax Inspectorate Himina Elena, 10. Deputy Head of the Department for Combating Tax Crimes Artem Kuznetsov, 11. Deputy Head of the Department for Supervising the Investigation of Particularly Important Cases of the Prosecutor General of the Russian Federation Andrei Pechegin, 12. the head of the Sailor Sailor Silence Prokopenko Ivan, 13. investigator Silchenko Oleg, 14. police officer Tolchinsky Dmitry, 15. Interior Ministry employee Alexei Droganov, 16. Deputy Head of the Investigative Department under the Ministry of Internal Affairs of the Russian Federation Natalya Vinogradova, 17. Officer of the Chechen Ministry of Internal Affairs Directorate of Security, Bogatyrev Lecha,
    18. Russian businessman Dukuzov Kazbek.
    But there is also an “extensive list that can be introduced according to circumstances. The Magnitsky List has expanded significantly, and now includes a number of high-ranking officials - the Prosecutor General of the Russian Federation Yuri Chaika, the head of the FSB Economic Security Directorate Viktor Voronin, the chairman of the Investigative Committee of Russia Alexander Bastrykin, the head of the Moscow City Court Olga Yegorov: One of the authors of the Magnitsky Act, US Congressman James McGovern, handed over the new “black list” to the US Presidential Administration. There are a total of 280 Russian officials (initially, in the fall of 2010, there were 60 people involved) involved in the death of a Hermitage Capital lawyer Sergei Magnitsky (see the dossier “SP”). All of them are invited to ban entry and financial operations in the United States.
    280 people from the "list" are divided into four categories. These are citizens who:
    - responsible for the detention, prosecution and death of Sergei Magnitsky;
    - At the level of the law, they assisted in his arrest, prosecution and death;
    - Received financial benefits from his arrest, persecution and death;
    - were involved in a criminal conspiracy disclosed by Sergei Magnitsky. It is possible that the final "list" will be even wider - several international non-profit organizations, in particular, Human Rights Watch and Amnesty International, have also submitted their options to the State Department. This is humiliating for our elite. This click is not so much on Seagull and other high-ranking defendants in the “list”, but on Putin. It turns out that the executors of Vladimir Putin’s orders are subject to sanctions. This shows that Russia - in the eyes of the West - is not such a great country to stand on ceremony with it, that we are starting to look like Belarus. This is a very serious blow to Putin’s position, because it was he who, in the opinion of the political elite, should ensure its immunity. Http://www.nn.ru/community/gorod/main/? Do = read & thread = 2770432
    & topic_id
    = 65057380 & anchor = 65073986
    http://svpressa.ru/politic/article/66461/?regnum=1
  9. UFO
    UFO April 15 2013 07: 26 New
    +5
    "All accidents are well-prepared patterns." Striped actions confirm the tendency for Russia to rise and strengthen, becoming DANGEROUS. Well, we are glad. good
  10. Hort
    Hort April 15 2013 07: 42 New
    +4
    Yes, they put their missile defense wherever they want. We just need to deploy the Iskanders with the same “brick” expression and actively put the Yars on duty.
    Well, in addition, in the border areas, opposite the Amer’s missile defense systems, "accidentally lodge" airborne brigades.
    1. Egoza
      Egoza April 15 2013 11: 52 New
      +2
      Quote: hort
      Opposite Amer’s missile defense systems, “accidentally lodge” airborne brigades.

      Why "by chance"? Send the guys a long-term excursion to the Brest Fortress! let Europe think about it, remember history ... laughing
      1. Hort
        Hort April 15 2013 14: 42 New
        0
        Well, I, by analogy with the article winked they will "randomly" deploy missile defense, and we will also "accidentally" - means of their destruction / capture (desanti)
  11. Hort
    Hort April 15 2013 07: 42 New
    0
    Yes, they put their missile defense wherever they want. We just need to deploy the Iskanders with the same “brick” expression and actively put the Yars on duty.
    Well, in addition, in the border areas, opposite the Amer’s missile defense systems, "accidentally lodge" airborne brigades.
  12. sablezub81
    sablezub81 April 15 2013 08: 04 New
    10
    Down with the Bush Feet, down with all the American products. Let's help collapse the pen'dos economy
    1. Hudo
      Hudo April 15 2013 08: 29 New
      +5
      Quote: sablezub81
      Down with the Bush Feet, down with all the American products. Let's help collapse the pen'dos economy


      1. lewerlin53rus
        lewerlin53rus April 15 2013 08: 52 New
        +5
        "What molested, he is a Frenchman in general"
        "Who cares!"
        laughing
  13. Mikhail Topor
    Mikhail Topor April 15 2013 08: 41 New
    +5
    our asymmetric answer is the transition in the calculations from the dollar to any other currency. In war as in war :-)
    1. vadson
      vadson April 15 2013 18: 49 New
      +3
      before giving up the dollar, you need to transfer the stabilization from bucks to something really tangible and not toilet paper, and only then ruin the buck, otherwise we’ll stupidly lose the annual budget
  14. JonnyT
    JonnyT April 15 2013 08: 54 New
    +1
    Obviously, the United States and NATO seriously decided to secure an unpunished strike on the Russian Federation ...... 5 years and all ...... But I think that in the basements of our research institutes the latest developments on how to overcome missile defense are already underway, because independence is at stake and the survival of the nation.
    By what principle do NATO interceptor missiles work ??? Probably carried out the interception of targets flying at high speed. The missiles are equipped with a computer that synchronizes information with the radar and various missile defense elements at sea on earth in space. Heat traps will no longer help; high-frequency pulses also lie. You can try to burn the control computer of the rocket with a directed electromagnetic pulse (the type of which occurs in the sun). The solution is probably to bring down the whole system at once. You can shoot down satellites (the Krona system) or launch a bag of nails into space (although I think it's still a myth). Bomb land and sea elements with strategists. Then the path for poplars will be open. 10 pcs and America kirdyk, go to the bottom! So in any case, we have something to answer even now. The question is price.
    1. Hort
      Hort April 15 2013 14: 48 New
      +1
      the hat is all. It is incapable of their missile defense to intercept ALL of our missiles, if there is a salvo, then the kirdyk will come to them - because a considerable part will still break through. Therefore, by the way, they persuade us to reduce our arsenals. Type in the name of peace
    2. navy33
      navy33 April 15 2013 19: 24 New
      +2
      I’m koumeka that the guys from the office like Kaspersky will add to the amers something viral in their computers.
    3. stalkerwalker
      stalkerwalker April 15 2013 19: 45 New
      +4
      Quote: JonnyT
      So in any case, we have something to answer even now. The question is price.

      All military operations can be transferred to the banal “land-coastal” version, having blown up, in time, in near-Earth orbit a couple of nuclear weapons in antipolar coordinates.
      And then everything, we drain the water from the radiators with high-tech equipment that is not covered by EMR.
  15. Chumich
    Chumich April 15 2013 10: 28 New
    0
    we also need to accidentally deploy something by accident ... strategic bombers an air division or several nuclear submarine missile carriers ... so that they also accidentally fly and go along the coast of North America accordingly.
  16. fenix57
    fenix57 April 15 2013 10: 33 New
    0
    Quote: Alexander Romanov
    It would be nice for us to add Nemtsov, Alekseev, Navalny to this list, the guys have left, but they are not allowed to return. We understand the list

    This is only FOR; - BUT, these gentlemen are reinsured (double, triple, etc. citizenship). It does not have the right ....... to restrict the right of entry to a CITIZEN OF THE RUSSIAN FEDERATION. Is the difference clear? drinks
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov April 15 2013 10: 47 New
      +1
      Quote: fenix57
      - BUT, these gentlemen are reinsured (double, triple, etc. citizenship)

      So you need to make sure that people with dual citizenship do NOT have the right to engage in any kind of state activity. And it is better to cancel dual or even triple citizenship, otherwise you will not understand. Who is a citizen of which country requestIt’s like ours, but look-sent.
    2. vadson
      vadson April 15 2013 18: 53 New
      0
      to deprive them of Russian citizenship without explanation or "in connection with the interests of the country" and not let them go home
  17. AndreyAB
    AndreyAB April 15 2013 10: 59 New
    +1
    Yes, how many more lessons do our managers need? All arms and missile defense treaties with the United States are poached, and unilaterally by the Shtatov’s, you can’t imagine more vile and hypocritical behavior, but they also negotiate with them, persuade us, and they call us aggressors all over the world . You can’t negotiate with them to the detriment of yourself, and how much will our government step on the rake? It turns out that they will sign some kind of tsidulka and let the army and equipment be cut in an emergency, and then restored - bvrdak.
    1. SASCHAmIXEEW
      SASCHAmIXEEW April 15 2013 15: 19 New
      +2
      Question: and who is in the government? Mendel Dvorkovich and Chubais !! That’s who you must drive up! Through the People’s Court! So that I could give it to everyone by earrings ..... And by and large .. One needs to drive all the power and start from scratch! But these are all dreams ... And the course must be changed .. We are all homegrown strategists ..
      1. vadson
        vadson April 15 2013 18: 57 New
        +1
        laughing as grandfather Lenin did-the eradication of illiteracy in the "government", all who have fake deserts to the wall am
  18. PACIFIST
    PACIFIST April 15 2013 12: 46 New
    0
    Moscow will continue to seek legal guarantees of missile defense against Russia. And amers, if yes, such as a guarantee that it is not directed against us, Lavrov will believe and calm down ????? And how to believe them if all the missiles are on the perimeter of the border, and you are boiling with the DPRK to install them in the Far East. And in my opinion this missile defense as well as the SDI is directed only that the Russian Federation should be drawn into the arms competition
    1. Vrungel78
      Vrungel78 April 15 2013 13: 35 New
      +1
      The consequence of the arms race is the impoverishment of non-militarized sectors of the economy. The budget is not rubber. Russia will not do that. And Americans are able to count money. They just demonstrate their impudence and impunity.
    2. SASCHAmIXEEW
      SASCHAmIXEEW April 15 2013 15: 37 New
      +1
      The arms race never stopped and it did not cause the collapse of the USSR! The liquidationist 5colon, internal sabotage, corruption, every secretary in the republics wanted to become king, so they got what they got! But Hitler spat on guarantees! The paper suffers ... how much is signed and not executed ,,,! C ... in the eyes, God's dew ..! That there are no other levers in Cuba to open the base and guarantee that YaRS will not be sent to Cass, and to the Samali pirates, what will they say?
  19. aleks71
    aleks71 April 15 2013 14: 01 New
    -1
    damn, where I do not press the tanks pop up .. tell me. admin, let them figure it out ... Already the third day is such crap .. bastard .. where are they looking? or is it just me?
    1. SASCHAmIXEEW
      SASCHAmIXEEW April 15 2013 15: 39 New
      +1
      I received a letter from the admin how to remove this crap, I removed it.
  20. Black
    Black April 15 2013 14: 20 New
    +1
    In my naive view, relations in a society of people and relations international relations are very similar. The same messages. the same methods. They mock, mock and rob the weak. They fight with the strong, make friends, obey.
    The Kremlin, possessing everything that is necessary for reckoning with it, is leading some kind of sugary-feigned policy of "friendship." We take the word ... now they have become “wiser” - we demand that they write on lined paper- and swore a memory to M. Thatcher ... Why? To steal here, and then settle down? They are afraid to jerk their hand sharply and get into the "list", and there is a summer residence, children, a mistress, but here you can’t leave. Maybe let them go? Maybe we’ll do something ourselves?
  21. Black
    Black April 15 2013 14: 21 New
    0
    In my naive view, relations in a society of people and international relations are very similar. The same messages. the same methods. They cheat, mock and rob the weak. They fight with the strong, make friends, obey.
    The Kremlin, possessing everything that is necessary for reckoning with it, is leading some kind of sugary-feigned policy of "friendship." We take the word ... now they have become “wiser” - we demand that they write on lined paper- and swore a memory to M. Thatcher ... Why? To steal here, and then settle down? They are afraid to jerk their hand sharply and get into the "list", and there is a summer residence, children, a mistress, but here you can’t leave. Maybe let them go? Maybe we’ll do something ourselves?
  22. Semyon Albertovich
    Semyon Albertovich April 15 2013 14: 30 New
    +1
    The deployment of the US missile defense system on the borders of Russia poses a threat to the country's security; there can only be one adequate answer - this is an increase in the number of missiles with nuclear warheads (at least up to 10 thousand). Overseas wise men will seek and support politicians for their first roles in the Russian Federation, who will agree with the US missile defense system in Europe and reduce nuclear weapons to 10 pieces / candidate Medvedev, who missed the UN resolution on Libya for the sake of his ambitions "great ruler" /. ONLY IMAGINE THE STATES WHERE THE STATES TO PLACE RUSSIA'S PRO-PRO along the US borders.
    1. Hort
      Hort April 15 2013 14: 43 New
      0
      there can be only one adequate answer - this is an increase in the number of missiles with nuclear warheads / at least to 10 you
      salt them? three and a half thousand for the eyes is enough. And the whole planet
      1. Semyon Albertovich
        Semyon Albertovich April 15 2013 14: 50 New
        -1
        The US missile defense will hit 7 thousand, and 3 thousand will remain, especially for you, "Hort".
        1. vadson
          vadson April 15 2013 19: 06 New
          +1
          Yeah, show me at least one pro in the world that will simultaneously hit at least 100 missiles of at least medium range? and you are 7 thousand. Moscow region is designed to counteract an accidentally launched missile, i.e. small amount
        2. Hort
          Hort April 15 2013 21: 22 New
          +1
          where is such confidence that the state missile defense will bring down 7 thousand? Have you forgotten the false goals?
  23. Vtel
    Vtel April 15 2013 15: 29 New
    +3
    How did this fawning get in front of the Yankees, then a roll of paper asked for confirmation that they hadn’t aimed the rockets at us, now we kindly ask you not to build ankhnii base under our nose. Maybe we will protect ourselves from North Korean missiles and place the Iskanders in Cuba, you never know what - they suddenly fly by. And it’s like in a soap opera - everyone fills our neck with fables, but they do not let us into the bathhouse.
  24. APASUS
    APASUS April 15 2013 19: 20 New
    +2
    The death of Magnitsky is a world-class tragedy !!, and the Russian children .... what kind of children ??
  25. krokodil25
    krokodil25 April 15 2013 19: 49 New
    +1
    Incidentally at Russian borders

    Accident is an undetected regularity in time.
  26. nod739
    nod739 April 15 2013 20: 42 New
    +3
    Stalin is urgently needed!
    moreover today, well, or nakrynyak tomorrow, after tomorrow it will be LATE
  27. patriot2
    patriot2 April 15 2013 21: 26 New
    +1
    I remember there was such a "non-aggression pact" of Molotov-Ribbentrop. How things ended everyone knows. These promising pieces of paper can be wiped off by remembering them. In reality, what? - deployed missile defense at the borders of Russia. Do we need it !? No!!!
    And one more thing: you must not allow “a little bit of NATO missile defense”, since you cannot be “slightly pregnant” and wait until it resolves!
  28. SPACE
    SPACE April 15 2013 21: 46 New
    0
    "Well, take it away, and take it away, but take away your suitcase, but I won’t remove it, but I won’t remove it, and I won’t remove it."
    --"Moscow did not see signs of a US refusal of Euro-missile defense, said Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov."
    And what does your Moscow see? 15 years this epic on missile defense lasts, And Moscow is not a damn thing and does not see.

    --"Russia did not believe in the US decision to partially abandon missile defense in Europe."
    Russia did not believe it, huh? and once again?

    --"I have not heard and did not see the irrevocability in this regard in American statements."
    Well, and what conclusions Mr. Lavrov? What will MOSCOW be doing? START4 sign? or will you start negotiations on nuclear weapons? Masters of compromise damn, at such a pace and YagO will not remain. Your door is full, thieves pick the installation, and you're all about the guarantee. Even history tells you that bargaining brought Stalin, Hussein and Gaddafi to a not very good condition. Until they give you an installation in the head, doesn’t it reach your brain? Only it may not have time to reach, probably sclerosis is not otherwise. Do not feel sorry for you, sorry for normal people, senior citizens of old people and children who are already 20 years old, for whose stupidity to pay. Even children know a fairy tale about three piglets, live with wolves, howl like a wolf. Trying to feed our rams, wolves.