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American fighter F-35V first made a vertical landing at night

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American fighter F-35V first made a vertical landing at night

In the US, the fifth-generation fighter F-35B, passing the test, for the first time made a vertical landing at night, reports Wtkr.com.


In the video, distributed the other day by the Pentagon, you can see how an airplane with a thrust vectoring control makes a short run up and takes off, and after a while it still hangs in the air with the engine nozzle pointing down and lands vertically, like a helicopter, reports RIA "News".

The modification with a shortened takeoff and vertical landing is intended for the US Marine Corps.

The test flights of the F-35 were temporarily stopped in February, when a crack was discovered in the turbine blades of an engine prototype during tests. However, a representative of the company that conducted the incident investigation later stated that this was due to the operating conditions and that this was not a design defect. Flights have been resumed.

F-35 was developed by aircraft manufacturer Lockheed Martin and is the second American fighter of the fifth generation. The aircraft is designed using low-visibility technology and can carry nuclear warheads. The production of one machine costs the Americans 137 million dollars.

In December last year, the US Department of Defense signed a contract with Lockheed Martin to buy another batch of these aircraft, totaling about $ 3,8 billion. The first aircraft of this type, the F22 Raptor, is the only fifth-generation fighter in the world to go into service.
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  1. fzr1000
    fzr1000 April 9 2013 08: 16 New
    11
    Well. Yours ... pooh. I was upset, in short.
    1. Nevsky
      Nevsky April 9 2013 08: 37 New
      +2
      American fighter F-35V ....


      American? And what's that?



      crying
      1. klimpopov
        klimpopov April 9 2013 08: 59 New
        +4
        But this is no longer ... crying
      2. Heccrbq
        Heccrbq April 9 2013 09: 06 New
        +2
        This is a prototype f-35)))
      3. alex-defensor
        alex-defensor April 9 2013 10: 28 New
        12
        No, we should not update the Yak, since at this stage of technology development, vertical takeoff and landing have the following disadvantages:

        1. Increased fuel consumption (on takeoff ~ 35-40%)
        2. Unstable balance and, as a result, possible disasters during bad weather;
        3. The weighting and complexity of the design and, as a consequence, less payload.


        We consider our solution with a shortened take-off due to engine power and a controlled thrust vector OPTIMAL at this stage of technological progress
        1. vjhbc
          vjhbc April 9 2013 20: 41 New
          0
          this is all true but there is one thing but the survivability of airfields and airplanes on them and only the vertical line allows dispersal and it outweighs all the shortcomings and again, but this is only necessary for a war with an equal enemy so both are needed
          Quote: alex-defensor
          No, we should not update the Yak, since at this stage of technology development, vertical takeoff and landing have the following disadvantages:

          1. Increased fuel consumption (on takeoff ~ 35-40%)
          2. Unstable balance and, as a result, possible disasters during bad weather;
          3. The weighting and complexity of the design and, as a consequence, less payload.


          We consider our solution with a shortened take-off due to engine power and a controlled thrust vector OPTIMAL at this stage of technological progress
      4. Sotnik77s
        Sotnik77s April 9 2013 11: 54 New
        0
        Someone with us podsuetsilsya while there was confusion and leaked our plane amer and with all the documentation !!!!!!!!!!!!
      5. No_more
        No_more April 9 2013 16: 01 New
        0
        the continuation of our response to the harrier, with the Yak-38 we were catching up with them, but here they almost caught up.
    2. Trailer
      Trailer April 9 2013 08: 47 New
      12
      Do not worry. At night it is, of course, the ropes stretched worse are visible!
      1. lelyk72
        lelyk72 April 9 2013 09: 55 New
        +2
        crane, by the way, too))))
    3. Stiletto
      Stiletto April 9 2013 09: 32 New
      +1
      From what? First time see a Hollywood movie? :-)))))
    4. sergius60
      sergius60 April 9 2013 09: 37 New
      +2
      Why upset? Test pilot planted on the concrete. After all, howls were about how with this miracle to be guided by STERVOY pilots. And in the field conditions! The most interesting is ahead ... lol
      1. fzr1000
        fzr1000 April 9 2013 10: 21 New
        +1
        At night, all this was done in order, because night flights are more difficult-showed the capabilities of the aircraft. Well, the work of blood pressure looks more effective. I think that somehow.
        1. Papakiko
          Papakiko April 9 2013 12: 03 New
          0
          Quote: fzr1000
          I think that somehow.

          You look, how YAKi and "Hari" hang and all staging and picturesque attempts of "mattress" attempts with f-35V become clear.
    5. Bashkaus
      Bashkaus April 9 2013 15: 22 New
      +2
      Well, do not be so upset you. Rejoice for the guys, now the main thing is that they would soon be massively allowed to run on the conveyor, but it’s difficult to manage such crap or that the performance characteristics have to be reduced for the sake of the vertical stray, and the war will write off heavily kerosene. The more G they rivet, the better, than now they will come to the conclusion that it is G and they will not begin to make a real "candy"
  2. tronin.maxim
    tronin.maxim April 9 2013 08: 27 New
    +5
    The American F-35B fighter first made a vertical landing at night. WHAT ACHIEVEMENTS! laughing laughing laughing
  3. Russian knight
    Russian knight April 9 2013 08: 28 New
    0
    Why upset then? Ours will be at least no worse, even better good
    1. fzr1000
      fzr1000 April 9 2013 08: 32 New
      +3
      What is our SKVVP? Something I do not remember anything about the prototypes.
      1. Denis
        Denis April 9 2013 08: 39 New
        +1
        Quote: fzr1000
        Our SKVVP what
        There was a Yak-141, so it was slibersted and rebuilt, but it's a pity
        1. fzr1000
          fzr1000 April 9 2013 08: 49 New
          +2
          Yes, there is no it for a long time. 20 years no longer.
          1. Denis
            Denis April 9 2013 09: 12 New
            +2
            Quote: fzr1000
            Yes, there is no it for a long time. 20 years already gone
            That is a pity that was
            It seems to me that there are enough 141 achievements in this, they were already interested in
        2. Nayhas
          Nayhas April 9 2013 09: 26 New
          0
          “There was a Yak-141, so it was slabbery and rebuilt, but it’s a pity” - in fact, it crashed and burned down during tests. Those. did not pass the tests and the work was turned off, in short, it did not work out ...
          1. Denis
            Denis April 9 2013 09: 58 New
            +1
            Quote: Nayhas
            in short, it didn’t work out.
            Can you recall many cars whose tests went smoothly right away?
            The crisis that occurred after the collapse of the USSR, the accident that happened with one of the prototypes, and also the negative attitude of the military towards the “vertical lines” that had taken shape at that time led to a total cessation of funding and the closure of the project
            Such rubbish turned out and turned, but not because it was bad
          2. fzr1000
            fzr1000 April 9 2013 10: 27 New
            0
            And here is the fact that he crashed? A lot of things fought during the creation, testing and refinement. There were two instances, actually. The crashed was more fully equipped. The work was canceled, because the customer - the Moscow Region, together with the Navy, “cooled down” to the VTOL itself, and the deck modifications of the “land” fighters were more reliable and better than Yak at the time. Well, grandmothers, money, loot, financing, budget ...
          3. Ghenxnumx
            Ghenxnumx April 9 2013 18: 06 New
            0
            Quote: Nayhas
            in fact, it crashed and burned down during tests. Those. did not pass the tests and the work was turned off, in short, it did not work out ...

            According to your statements, we should not have a strategic nuclear forces now, since the missiles exploded on take-off during the tests and people died in these tests.
  4. Krapovy32
    Krapovy32 April 9 2013 08: 29 New
    0
    Yes, he already has so many sores that until they eliminate them we will already have something to answer them soldier
    1. patsantre
      patsantre April 9 2013 10: 14 New
      0
      Well, list chtol) those that have not yet been eliminated.
  5. krokodil25
    krokodil25 April 9 2013 08: 31 New
    +2
    In the United States, the fifth-generation fighter F-35B, undergoing testing, first made a vertical landing at night


    Another 10-15 years and the plane will learn to fly vertically !!! lol
    1. Nayhas
      Nayhas April 9 2013 09: 28 New
      +5
      “To date, the F-35B flotilla has completed a total of approximately 700 short take-offs and more than 380 vertical landings.”
      http://www.pw.utc.com/News/Story/20130405-1200/2013/All%20Categories
  6. Vasily79
    Vasily79 April 9 2013 08: 32 New
    +7
    Dates for such dibs, he should land on the moon with his belly up
  7. CAMS
    CAMS April 9 2013 08: 32 New
    +1
    5th generation !? we have 4 ++ is not inferior to the 5th
    1. queen
      queen April 9 2013 11: 58 New
      0
      Quote: KAMS
      not inferior to the 5th

      And who said that the fifth penguin? He does not pull up to him. What will he have a combat radius with under such regimes? Yes, and what will he carry on himself. If you take off half the work for a short time, but sit down with a load vertically, the navel will untie. Not a plane complete misunderstanding)
  8. Romn
    Romn April 9 2013 08: 33 New
    11
    The adversary’s successes should not be depressed, but only forced to work and be proactive. I am confident in our designers and scientists, they will also show what they are worth. Let's wait for our handsome 5 generation! smile
    1. Suhov
      Suhov April 9 2013 09: 29 New
      +1
      Quote: Romn
      The adversary’s successes should not be depressed, but only forced to work and be proactive.

      You should always remember that the enemy is not asleep!
    2. queen
      queen April 9 2013 12: 06 New
      +1
      Quote: Romn
      only make work and be proactive

      good + But at this stage we do not even need it theoretically. The Yak-141 was a breakthrough car of the time, but it was a search for a new one. And for the T-50, don’t worry, he studies and does it well)))
  9. Dimani
    Dimani April 9 2013 08: 36 New
    +1
    American fighter F-35V first made a vertical landing at night


    And what, the landing site did not even light with flashlights? belay
    1. WWW.budanov
      WWW.budanov April 9 2013 10: 45 New
      0
      Maybe they were afraid that it would fall apart or “slip”!
  10. Averias
    Averias April 9 2013 08: 37 New
    +4
    To be honest, I’ve got enough to read about their “super achievements”. The title of the article should sound something like this - At the cost of incredible efforts (financial and human), the F-35 aircraft was finally able to make a vertical landing. Everyone breathed a sigh of relief and crossed themselves. A pilot from nervous tension was sent for rehabilitation followed by early retirement.
    Damn, do we have anything to brag and surprise ourselves? Although it’s certainly right, why “shine” your developments and achievements (and they are there, the same Borey class submarine, PAK FA, because its performance characteristics and so on are still a secret, there is only general infa). Somehow it’s a shame for the state.
    1. sergius60
      sergius60 April 9 2013 09: 58 New
      -1
      Dear, even what even I have so far learned, and these are really miserable crumbs, it IS ENOUGH that for a power NOT TO BE OFFENDED. MO and "office" - as advertising agencies, they somehow never earned money ... hi
      1. Averias
        Averias April 9 2013 10: 19 New
        0
        If you noticed, then I said - a little annoying. And a little higher, I said that it’s correct that we are not “shining” the development. What is the problem then?
  11. bulvas
    bulvas April 9 2013 08: 41 New
    +6
    If you recall who helped them ...
  12. Denis
    Denis April 9 2013 08: 42 New
    +5
    Everything when it happens for the first time, it was a night F-117 case over Yugoslavia flew ...
    And this is the same good way
  13. smart ass
    smart ass April 9 2013 09: 02 New
    -2
    It seems to me ... they are deceiving our brother !! It spread like a pentagon ... like a leak ... then why at night ???? What day, then it doesn’t fly !? Anyone ... bought a harikkayn from the English .... hung cardboard on it (as in Soviet films about the war German tanks from t 55 did) and forward show "NEW"
    1. lelyk72
      lelyk72 April 9 2013 09: 57 New
      +1
      Who minuses stuck a friend? Uncle joked, joked successfully, cons why ????
      1. patsantre
        patsantre April 9 2013 10: 16 New
        +2
        Sucks a joke.
    2. sergius60
      sergius60 April 9 2013 10: 01 New
      +5
      And you can without frank stupid things? VTOL once Harrier ("The Hound") was nicknamed, but not Hurricane ("Hurricane"). Just to blurt out something?
      1. Averias
        Averias April 9 2013 10: 24 New
        +1
        I support. Before you say anything, you need to at least know the correct names. And then they will hear a ringing ... good . It's like they say about the LHC, more than a dozen times, from venerable news channels, the presenters say - ANDRON COLLIDER, instead of HADRON. Literacy pancake.
      2. smart ass
        smart ass April 9 2013 13: 09 New
        +2
        AXA completely admit my MISTAKE) I wrote very quickly, it flew out))) sorry comrades, but when I wrote I thought about HARIER) They attacked the defenseless wise guy right away !!!
        1. sergius60
          sergius60 April 9 2013 13: 42 New
          0
          How can one deprive oneself of the joy of HIS "posk-p-and-d-a-r-and-be"! (I clarify right away, I mean precisely - the liquid mixture obtained from the resins of conifers, but God forbid what they thought.)hi drinks This let the ENEMIES remain ignorant.
  14. FunkschNNX
    FunkschNNX April 9 2013 09: 26 New
    +1
    So he seems to be completely in the machine should sit upright, and what is the difference between the machine day or night?
    Once it takes off with a short take-off, it seems that nifiga amers did not solve the main problem of the UHV - a negligible payload.
  15. pensioner
    pensioner April 9 2013 09: 33 New
    +1
    Quote: tronin.maxim
    The American F-35B fighter first made a vertical landing at night. WHAT ACHIEVEMENTS!

    Yes, not a fact. No wonder they did everything at night. Neither x ... I can be seen. Yes, on any sat without taking off. So, buzzed for the order and all.
    1. patsantre
      patsantre April 9 2013 10: 17 New
      +1
      But Nitsche, that during the day he already took off hundreds of times and sat down?
  16. newcomer
    newcomer April 9 2013 09: 37 New
    +3
    Quote: Clever man
    .Harikkeyn bought from the English .... hung cardboard on it (as in Soviet films about the war German tanks from t 55 did) and go ahead to show "NEW"

    that’s the point. they themselves said in whose traditions to mold bullshit for domestic consumption. and what Hurricane remembered is right. It was on the Hurricanes, Kittyhawks, and aero-cobras that our Stalinist falcons defended their homeland from the Nazis, and not the Englishwoman, in our twinkles, yaks, lags, and donkeys. if amers get something better than ours, (and this is almost always) it is necessary to rejoice and learn to work with them. or again in case of war we will run to them for help?
    1. Zopuhhh
      Zopuhhh April 9 2013 13: 15 New
      +1
      You do not voice the context of our use of their technology? And the scale of use, or even the truth, will turn out that the Americans won the war, and we only flew a little ...
  17. nikolas 83
    nikolas 83 April 9 2013 09: 46 New
    -1
    Why doesn’t he sit down during the day? Another Hollywood movie. Special effects
  18. SPIRITofFREEDOM
    SPIRITofFREEDOM April 9 2013 09: 51 New
    -1
    Catch up and overtake !!!!
    1. patsantre
      patsantre April 9 2013 10: 19 New
      +1
      Wake up, we are not in the USSR. And the latter also fell apart partly from such slogans (SDI)
  19. Kavtorang
    Kavtorang April 9 2013 09: 59 New
    +5
    And who doesn’t like it? The adversary is cursed?
    Flies, takes off and lands. IMHO, they will soon begin to practice close air combat and attacks on ground targets. This modification to the requirements of the deck carrier, the carriers of the Americans - at least assholes. It is not necessary to spray with drool, but to evaluate the need for such a demon in our naval aviation. Do we need this or not? IMHO, that no - there is nothing to base on.
    For our YAK-141 - sorry, the topic died a hundred years in the afternoon recourse
    1. Odysseus
      Odysseus April 9 2013 16: 04 New
      +1
      Quote: Kavtorang
      It is not necessary to spray with drool, but to evaluate the need for such a demon in our naval aviation.

      Competent comment. You need to think more about your affairs than about the US.
      Quote: Kavtorang
      Do we need this or not? IMHO, that no - there is nothing to base on.

      Actually, it’s needed, of course. But at the moment it’s utopia.
      But what’s very important is the plans of the Ministry of Defense to put Zhuk-m on the Mig-29K. It’s just very bad. It’s stupid to start an expensive modernization of an aircraft carrier and building planes, getting an outdated plane at the exit. Of course, then it can be modified, but why such a loss of time?
  20. shpuntik
    shpuntik April 9 2013 10: 08 New
    +1
    And why is everything at night? Maybe something would not be visible on the cable, which is lowered during landing? :-)
  21. Vanek
    Vanek April 9 2013 10: 11 New
    +3
    Quote: shpuntik
    And why is everything at night?


    Shy.
    1. Zopuhhh
      Zopuhhh April 9 2013 13: 16 New
      +1
      Shameless face, but shy? )))
  22. TRAFFIC
    TRAFFIC April 9 2013 10: 19 New
    +4
    Honestly, people who write such comments amaze
    It may be that the cable was not visible, which is lowered during landing
    Why doesn’t he sit down during the day? Another Hollywood movie. Special effects
    It would seem that the Internet gave mankind an unprecedented level of access to information, what is the problem of watching on YouTube a lot of videos with landing during the day and even on an aircraft carrier and not writing such nonsense?
    1. shpuntik
      shpuntik April 9 2013 12: 36 New
      +1
      Why is bullshit right away? You are apparently one of those who believe that the Americans were on the moon. Explain why landing at night is presented as something extraordinary? I personally see this as a video report to American taxpayers (senators in particular), and if there is a cable there, I won’t be surprised at all. Since the money is not small invested, and as much will leave, and in vain. I do not consider it promising, although the solutions are interesting. And this, by the way, is not because they are so smart, these Americans, but because they have something to pay with a printing press (swindlers in our opinion). Therefore, as a nation, they are not my authority. Secondly. Our weapons are the best and most effective in the world. Proven by practice. For example, take the German tank "Tiger" - it was a masterpiece at one time, but at a cost six times more expensive than the T-34. PPSh-machine gun up to 80% of parts were made by stamping. Who won you know. Draw your own conclusions. And, about the cable and the Liebher crane, do not take it seriously, this is a joke. A joke in which there is some truth. Ah, here's the share, we'll see ...
      1. TRAFFIC
        TRAFFIC April 9 2013 13: 26 New
        -1
        [quote] You are probably one of those who believe that the Americans were on the moon. / quote] Believe in God, and this is a fact. smile
        [quote] Explain why landing at night is presented as something extraordinary? [/ quote] Who is presented? This is one of the tests that the F-35 must pass.
        [Quote] and if there is a cable, I won’t be surprised at all. [/ quote] and more about the joke, once again, there are many F-35 landing videos and as many people saw this, deny the possibility of a vertical landing of this aircraft, well, to put it easier, probably nonsense. Everything else in your post is politics.
  23. Ezhaak
    Ezhaak April 9 2013 10: 22 New
    +1
    Quote: Nayhas
    did not pass the tests and the work was turned off, in short, it did not work out ...

    A negative result, also a result. And the drawings have been preserved. For the future.
  24. Kuzkin Batyan
    Kuzkin Batyan April 9 2013 10: 33 New
    +1
    That is, they adopted the aircraft, never using it at night during testing ?? However..
  25. Kavtorang
    Kavtorang April 9 2013 10: 34 New
    +4
    Quote: TRAFIC
    Honestly, people who write such comments amaze
    It may be that the cable was not visible, which is lowered during landing
    Why doesn’t he sit down during the day? Another Hollywood movie. Special effects
    It would seem that the Internet gave mankind an unprecedented level of access to information, what is the problem of watching on YouTube a lot of videos with landing during the day and even on an aircraft carrier and not writing such nonsense?

    I’ll tell you more - even in the magazine ZVO for 2012 there was a color picture of the F-35B deck day launch - a normal military man is enough.
    But here is the specificity of the site: the first thing to do is to declare hosanna Glory to Russia, then you need to annihilate the anathema to the Americans, then do not forget to proclaim the anathema to the geyurope, small-shavens and paddling pools. Then you need to write about nuclear weapons in Russia, which is only cooler than eggs, be sure to shoot all light armored vehicles from RPG-7 wink
    1. sergius60
      sergius60 April 9 2013 10: 58 New
      0
      Dear, there is so much shit around, so even on the site you can talk with normal men. with him, sometimes you can have some fun. But here is all OWN. In spirit, in conviction. They just do not care. And “proclaim hosanna Glory to Russia” is HOPE! There will be her hope, you can look and bitch thicker. So life is lived in vain. So you did nonsense. And here are the others ...
    2. lelyk72
      lelyk72 April 9 2013 11: 03 New
      +1
      I am not a military man, and I am not a pilot or an aircraft designer. Nevertheless, I won’t believe in truth that TAKEOFF during the day is the same as landing at night, especially on an aircraft carrier.
  26. sergius60
    sergius60 April 9 2013 10: 37 New
    +1
    Based on what, there’s just something. Container ships inclusive. Even the Yak-38 was practicing take-off and landing on the container ship Nikolai Cherkasov. What is the "trick" of VTOL and this is a practical "omnivorous" media. And if you add a container version of the "Caliber" to the deck, in general, an interesting "Lego" can work. The real plug with them is that in vertical take-off modes the fuel is consumed unnecessarily. The load capacity turns out, somehow not very. request
    Engineers will make an economical "heart-flame motor", you can think about something. If they don’t do it, then "the game is not worth the candle." hi
    1. Kavtorang
      Kavtorang April 9 2013 11: 03 New
      +1
      Nice to talk to a smart person hi
      Here is just to base and there is nothing to be found. Well, there are simply no ships.
      Merchant fleet - not work out. Except Sovcomflot, everything is under the flags. And Sovcomflot is 90% of the tanker and gas carrier. If you depict to me the operating time of the ARAPAJO convoy-based system as applied to a tanker, I will take off my hat to you.
      I am aware of the experimental development of the SVPP at Cherkasov, but I have not seen the final solution.
      And let's not move to the country of Fantasy: on the ADG 16-32 units of aircraft (the same Harrier AV-8-II, 4 PLO / PiS helicopters) expeditionary BTG of the whole, with a tank company.
      1. sergius60
        sergius60 April 9 2013 13: 33 New
        +1
        Dear Kavtorang, "a kind word and a cat is nice." hi
        I agree with you on the situation - NOW! But you are of course aware of what is happening with the global economy. And then it will be much more fun. After the "sequestration" of the budget at the minke whales, now such an "oi-la-la" begins, saliva can be choked. From 10 AUG, FOUR are displayed for conservation. And this is the general course for chopping shipyards. If you just drown in the ocean, like predecessors. The Chinese comrades have already "lured" to build SIX aircraft carriers. 2 on the type of "Varyag", turbines with the Kharkov plant ALREADY agreed to "rivet". And 4, it’s a matter of fact, atomic. I’m not at all surprised at the “striking similarity” with Ulyanovsk. China has one very serious vulnerability. Communications. Marine. Now, I don’t remember exactly how much, but 3/4 of the cargo flows are in the SEA, it’s darling ... It’s probably not worth throwing quotes in the style of "... who owns the sea ..." And so everything is clear. I do not envy the Amer admirals in 10 years. They will start to nightmare not childishly ... The British already have experience. After the Second World War, almost for every REMAINING “steamer” in the ranks, the admiral had to understandably were generally in the service. No kidding.
        By the way, the LAST Amer tank left Germany that week. Angles also molted soap. And the Bundes themselves should have 150 pieces left. Saving money, crisis, you know.
        So in such a situation, even 2-4 Russian AVs in 10 years, it will be POWER. And for the history of the state this is an instant. I really hope that the children in the lessons of history, after 50 years, even cease to notice the "short-term failure in the development" of the Armed Forces of Russia. Why soar, because GREAT RUSSIA is around!
  27. vorobey
    vorobey April 9 2013 10: 39 New
    +1
    about progress. Already glad that no one was injured.

    So I'm not a flyer men. As M. Gorky said. Born to crawl can’t fly, but explain to me
    this is not a link. how can it be?

    quote.
    when, during tests of a prototype aircraft, a crack was detected in the engine turbine blade However, the representative of the company conducting the investigation of the incident, later said that this is due to operating conditions and this is not a design defect
    1. UzRus
      UzRus April 9 2013 10: 56 New
      +1
      Unacceptable operating conditions, hehe ... laughing
      1. AlNikolaich
        AlNikolaich April 9 2013 22: 58 New
        0
        Quote: UzRus
        Unacceptable operating conditions, hehe

        In-in! Of course! Where it is seen that when the turbine is working, the wind blows into the blades with a pressure of hundreds of atmospheres, and under 1000 degrees temperature! That's terrible! am
        Bring the turbine into normal conditions immediately! Room temperature, zero pressure and no centrifugal force! fellow
  28. Kavtorang
    Kavtorang April 9 2013 10: 45 New
    +1
    Quote: Kavtorang
    Quote: TRAFIC
    Honestly, people who write such comments amaze
    It may be that the cable was not visible, which is lowered during landing
    Why doesn’t he sit down during the day? Another Hollywood movie. Special effects
    It would seem that the Internet gave mankind an unprecedented level of access to information, what is the problem of watching on YouTube a lot of videos with landing during the day and even on an aircraft carrier and not writing such nonsense?

    I’ll tell you more - even in the magazine ZVO for 2012 there was a color picture of the F-35B deck day launch - a normal military man is enough.
    But here is the specificity of the site: the first thing to do is to declare hosanna Glory to Russia, (although all that is glorified is mainly the USSR) further, you need to annihilate the anathema to the Americans, then do not forget to proclaim the anathema to the geyurope, small-shavens and paddles. After that, you need to write about the nuclear weapons of Rossi that only eggs are cooler, be sure to shoot all light armored vehicles from RPG-7 (I always want to comment on foreign BTT commentators-observers in the BTR-80 and charge it from the personnel RPG-29) wink

    Well and further, m. you will be happy.
  29. Russian knight
    Russian knight April 9 2013 10: 47 New
    +3
    Quote: Russian Knight
    Why upset then? Ours will be at least no worse, even better good



    And why am I minus? Explain ka please.
    1. Kavtorang
      Kavtorang April 9 2013 11: 12 New
      +3
      I put you a plus, so as not to be upset. Ours will not be - there is no concept of application.
      1. Per se.
        Per se. April 9 2013 21: 24 New
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        Quote: Russian Knight
        Ours will not be - there is no concept of application.
        Only, the lack of a concept is better attributed not to VTOL, but to the short-sighted heads of our superiors. It is bitter to realize that breaking ahead with the YAK-141, we pohёr topic, but here we are mocking here on work in the United States. The Yankees are not fools, they will bring the fighter to mind. This is not only a plane for the fleet, it is also a plane in the event of a global war, when kilometer runways and aircraft in hangars will be covered with a copper basin in a preventive strike. The fact that we do not have ships under the vertical, so when they appear, it will be too late to “drink Borjomi”, and we, after all, have already ordered the same Mistral, and we are planning to build other ships.
      2. Per se.
        Per se. April 9 2013 21: 35 New
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        Quote: Kavtorang
        Our will not be - no concept of application
        Only, the concept of the use of VTOL is not in the short-sighted heads of our bosses, and not in VTOL, as such. It is bitter to realize that having stepped forward with the YAK-141, they have stolen this topic from us, and here we are only naively scoffing at work in the USA. The Yankees are not fools, they will bring the fighter to mind. This is not only a plane for the fleet, but also a plane in the event of a global war, when kilometer runways, together with the planes tied to them, will be covered with a copper basin during a preventive strike. The fact that we don’t have ships under vertical lines now, so when they arrive, it will be too late to “drink Borjomi”, and we, after all, ordered the same Mistral, and we are going to build other ships.
  30. bulvas
    bulvas April 9 2013 11: 04 New
    +5
    As they say "with whom you will lead ..."
    The style of many of the performances here (and in other places) resembles shooting from machine guns into the air and shouting "Allahu akbar ..." bearded, with towels on his head.

    you don’t need to think about anything, just shout "we are better! we have more! etc.
    night landing, unlike day landing, which means automation is fully working
    1. vorobey
      vorobey April 9 2013 11: 16 New
      +2
      Quote: bulvas
      you don’t need to think about anything, just shout "we are better! we have more! etc


      ay well done, ay uterus in the eyes cut the truth. Just explain please friendly such a difference. Ours, before starting the series, all run in and experience. and then the series went. the dough from the vassals was cut down and now they are also testing along the way. By the way, why do vassals gradually refuse or reduce purchases of these predators and lightning?

      not because the predator turns into a harmless hamster, and lightning into a sun bunny. And everything is called in one word - zilch.
  31. Kavtorang
    Kavtorang April 9 2013 11: 18 New
    +2
    Quote: bulvas
    night landing, unlike day landing, which means automation is fully working

    An optical approach control system is operating. Roughly speaking, all landing lights should be the same color, if not - you need to go to the second round.
  32. bulvas
    bulvas April 9 2013 11: 20 New
    +4
    Quote: vorobey
    ay well done, ay uterus in the eyes cut the truth. Just explain please friendly such a difference. Ours, before starting the series, all run in and experience. and then the series went. the dough from the vassals was cut down and now they are also testing along the way. By the way, why do vassals gradually refuse or reduce purchases of these predators and lightning?

    not because the predator turns into a harmless hamster, and lightning into a sun bunny. And everything is called in one word - zilch.



    Does Soviet (and Russian technology) always work the first time? there are no errors, improvements, accidents ...
    do not refuse our equipment?
    Is Russian equipment in first place in the world?

    There are no miracles. Everything new is given with labor, blood and huge costs. Without these victims, the new does not appear.

    If you notice, the main idea is about screaming and stupid shooting
  33. Hemi cuda
    Hemi cuda April 9 2013 11: 21 New
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    How many years I think why they need f-22 and f-35 and I do not understand the meaning of these chainsaws for the budget.
  34. Kavtorang
    Kavtorang April 9 2013 11: 34 New
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    Quote: Hemi Cuda
    How many years I think why they need f-22 and f-35 and I do not understand the meaning of these chainsaws for the budget.

    About the same meaning as from PAK-FA and others like them. Nothing new in this raging world. Give us a budget button accordion - we will tear it to crap
    1. Hemi cuda
      Hemi cuda April 9 2013 11: 47 New
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      In the T-50, the meaning is even in the F / A-22, although it was realized through the ass but the F-35 is stupid.
  35. Atrix
    Atrix April 9 2013 11: 39 New
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    It is interesting to look at the assembly shop where fighters are assembled in Russia.
    1. Hemi cuda
      Hemi cuda April 9 2013 11: 42 New
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      Look in the articles for a lot of photos posted.
    2. Ezhaak
      Ezhaak April 9 2013 12: 58 New
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      It seems that it’s not the plane itself that is being assembled, but just some nodes filling the glider. According to the description, there seems to be an assembly of components and parts of the wing. However, coolly automated feed to jobs.
  36. Old skeptic
    Old skeptic April 9 2013 11: 49 New
    +2
    C'mon, f-3,5 is a good plane,
    the best of its kind
    moreover unbreakable,
    because "born cannot crawl fall" request
  37. nikolas 83
    nikolas 83 April 9 2013 12: 12 New
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    Old Skeptic Come on, f-3,5 is a good plane,
    the best of its kind
    moreover unbreakable,
    because "born cannot crawl fall" request[/ Quote]

    I completely agree. Our PAK FA is still better. Easier, cheaper, more maneuverable and longer without refueling.
  38. newcomer
    newcomer April 9 2013 13: 24 New
    +1
    Quote: nikolas 83
    I completely agree. Our PAK FA is still better. Easier, cheaper, more maneuverable and longer without refueling.

    Yeah ... the trouble is that our Pak Fak is NOT! and most likely there will be almost no. because Recently, our military aircraft are produced by the small-scale screwdriver assembly method. Amers of raptors alone released more than we all put together in the same time.
  39. sergius60
    sergius60 April 9 2013 14: 21 New
    +1
    It just repeats the old trick that ALREADY worked perfectly. The guys joyfully launched into the F-15 series, and after a five-year period they received a “joyful” meeting with the Su-27. Only here about the "small batch" you got a little excited. Su-class fighters cost 50-80 MILLION evergreens. Everybody’s beloved Mistral (a wonderful ship for the work with which it was created + the Zenit-9 BIUS, is somehow forgotten or stupidly not aware of it.) = $ 600 million. At a minimum, we get 12 units. Squadron. Now we are waiting, with "joyful" smiles from a meeting with the T-50 (I wonder what they will call, Su-37?) hi
  40. Ruslan Bear
    Ruslan Bear April 9 2013 14: 29 New
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    people do you think in close combat su 27cm3 against f22 who whom?
  41. Alexey M
    Alexey M April 9 2013 14: 31 New
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    We laugh in vain. The enemy is not asleep. In 3-5 years they will finish. And we are our PAX?
    1. Ezhaak
      Ezhaak April 9 2013 14: 43 New
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      Are you in doubt I have no doubt that PAK-FA will be adopted. Another thing is that Russia, to be honest, will find it difficult to assemble 200-300 aircraft in a short time.
      1. sergius60
        sergius60 April 9 2013 15: 51 New
        -1
        Until 2020, the planned release of 60 units. BUT! The T-50 will also have long-range missiles, but the F-22 will NOT have them. There is simply no place in the internal compartments. And this is not a "cant" of designers. The terms of reference were issued in glorious times, when "it was clear to everyone" that a huge polar fox had come to Russia. Well, why bother? With whom is it really possible to fight? And here is the "capture". Rumors of death were premature. lol Therefore, the T-50 (Su-37 ... 47 or whatever it is ...) will shoot the "predators" (Raptor F-22) OUTSIDE the detection zone as "game". And the whole “cimus” of the situation is that nothing can be fixed! Last year, the shop with production was successfully covered. And the equipment was eliminated. There will be no more Predators, even to make up for the natural loss. Normal "animals", for 150 lyam thing, did you get it? Well, US Air Force has karma like that. The MiG-15 vs Saber, the MiG-21 vs Phantom, the Su-27 vs Needle somehow turned out better in real CASE. The tradition is ... hi
  42. sven27
    sven27 April 9 2013 14: 32 New
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    I know why Moldovans plant potatoes at night, and why Americans do this with an airplane laughing