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On the issue of national policy. Unpublished mid 80's study

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In the public mind there was an opinion that the Russian people underwent genocide only during the periods of the Civil War, collectivization, repression, and provoked famine. However, if we do not assume that genocide is the organized destruction of an ethnos only by physical means, by direct violence under the gun, then it turns out that the most crushing (for centuries!) Nation and state belong to the postwar period.


The following material is told that историяin which we live now. It shows how with the help of political and economic mechanisms the life of the Russian people was stifled, and with it the great state that he had prepared for death. At first glance, there is bewilderment, how could the authorities make decisions, obviously opposing the country's economic and political power? However, everything rises to “its” places if we recall the pronounced anti-Russian direction of the administrative mechanism that was created in 1917. With such a view on the problem, the only meaning of these “solutions” is easily revealed: the destruction of the assimilating potential of the Russian people, which it originally had. Then we will clearly see the former, contrary to any economy and national fortress of the state, the dominant vector: the genocide of the Russian people.

The work was written in the middle of 80-ies d. n G. I. Litvinova and was transferred to the most courageous, for those times, the only Russian magazine "Our Contemporary". However, the material was banned for publication, and the magazine did not sacrifice itself.

TO THE QUESTION OF NATIONAL POLICY

The prospects for the development of the USSR as a single multinational state require the strictest observance of the constitutional principle of equality of nations, the elimination of obstacles to the internationalization of the state and society. The privileges and benefits provided earlier to individual nations in order to ensure the priority pace of their development allowed in an unprecedentedly short period of time to solve the most important task in the field of national relations - the task of de facto equality of nations. With her decision, mainly towards the end of 30, there was no need for benefits. Their further preservation began to threaten the creation of new, actual inequalities: the previously backward peoples began to overtake the nations that were rendering them assistance. According to the results of the 1979 population census, among the nations that are distinguished by low (below the all-Union) indicators of security of the employed population with highly qualified specialists were Russians, Belarusians and the people of the Baltic States who had the highest literacy rates before the revolution. And among the peoples with the highest rates are the peoples of the Transcaucasus and Central Asia, who were distinguished by extremely low literacy rates before the revolution. The lowest indicators were in the economic regions located on the territory of the RSFSR: West Siberian, East Siberian, Ural, Volga-Vyatka, Central Black Earth, Volga.

These areas of high-industrial and fuel and energy importance are now provided by highly qualified specialists 3-5 times lower than the Georgian SSR. The national orientation of the training of scientific personnel is doubtful. In 1973, Russians and Belarusians had the lowest qualifications among Soviet scientists. They had the lowest percentage of people with advanced degrees. However, at 100 researchers there were graduate students: among Russians, 9.7 people; Belarusians - 13.4; Turkmen - 26.2; Kyrgyz - 23.8. This trend continues, reinforcing the new actual inequalities of nations.

The Kazakhs, Kirghiz, Turkmen and other peoples of the Asian part of the country, which had died out before the revolution, now have the highest natural population growth in the world, while Russians and Ukrainians, who had the highest natural population growth before the revolution, are now facing the threat of depopulation (extinction).

In all the Union republics, excluding the RSFSR, the proportion of the indigenous nation among students, postgraduates, researchers and managers, higher authorities and administration is higher than among the population, while as a rule the industrial working class is lower . The 1979 population census recorded an amazing phenomenon: the percentage of people with higher education among Tajiks living in the territory of their “own” republic is two times higher than among Tajiks living in the neighboring Uzbek SSR, although there they are also indigenous. "Second-rate" indigenous for Uzbekistan. Some other nations were in a similar position.

It seems appropriate to make changes to the budget and tax policy, as well as the procurement price policy, etc., which resulted in favorable conditions for decades for advancing rates of socio-economic development of previously backward nations in the framework of the relevant national statehood. So in 50, the incomes of the collective farmers of the Uzbek SSR were 9 times higher than in the RSFSR, and the cost of gross crop production for 1 workday at purchase prices in the Non-Chernozem zone was estimated at 10 times lower than in the Uzbek SSR and 15 times lower than in the Georgian SSR.

In 1960, the lowest natural population growth (in Estonia) differed from the highest (in Tajikistan) by 6; in 1975, this gap increased to 15, and in 1981, up to 22 times: the natural increase of the population of Latvia in 22 times less than in Tajikistan.

There has been an accelerating increase in the proportion of the population of the republics of Central Asia, Kazakhstan and the Transcaucasus as part of the population of the USSR and a drop in the proportion of the population of the Slavic and Baltic republics.

In most regions of the Non-chernozem zone of the RSFSR, the absolute population is also decreasing. Even 3-4 decades ago, the population of all the republics of Central Asia together was four times less than the population of the Ukrainian SSR. Today, this ratio has been preserved only among people of retirement age, while the younger generation (children and adolescents) have become equal in number. This means that in the next one and a half to two decades, the population of the republics of Central Asia will become equal, and then it will quickly begin to outpace the population of Ukraine, since among newborns this superiority already exists.

The population of the republics of Central Asia, which was recently inferior in terms of the number of RSFSR by more than 10 times, today maintains this gap only among pensioners, while the number of children and adolescents differs only 2.8 times. And all these huge changes occurred during the life of one generation.

It is advisable to consider the possibility of correlation of the entire policy of the Soviet state, taking into account the trends in the development of socio-demographic processes. It should be borne in mind:

1. The increase in the proportion of the population of the republics that are subsidized from the All-Union budget, or who give the smallest percentage of contributions to the All-Union budget, on the one hand, and the fall in the proportion of the population of the republics that form the main part of the All-Union budget, on the other hand (see Laws on budgets for 1924- 1984 (years) is able to increase the budgetary tension in the USSR.
2. The increase in the proportion of the population of the republics consuming food, producing them in a smaller volume than the proportion of their rural population and the fall in the proportion, as well as the absolute number of the rural population of the republics producing the bulk of food, can aggravate the food shortage and complicate the decision of the food program .
3. An increase in the share of republics with a predominantly agricultural population and a reduction in the share of the population of republics and nations, through which the industrial working class is formed, may complicate the socio-economic development of the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics.
4. The fall in the share of nations with the greatest experience in the most complex branches of the economy and science and the increase in the share of nations with the least experience with such experience can slow down scientific and technical progress.
5. The fall in the share of nations with the greatest historical military experience may complicate the solution of military strategic tasks. Population census 1979g. confirms the forecasts of American scientists that from 2000, the Soviet Army will become predominantly Muslim (the Americans counted on religions, and not on nations).

All this indicates that the optimal development of the USSR as a single multinational state implies the solution of a whole complex of problems of an organizational, regulatory and legal, and political-practical nature.

Among the national problems of particular concern and concern is the fate of the "elder brother" - the Russian people, on whose shoulders lay the brunt of the rise in the socio-economic development of previously backward peoples.

A significant part of the gross national product and national income created by the Russian people was constantly redistributed to the previously backward national areas, providing them with faster growth rates of investment and socio-economic development.

The rates of social and economic development of the RSFSR, and within its framework of the Russian nation, of the Russian regions, remained steadily lower than all-Union, even after the problem of actual equality was resolved.

The preservation of the accelerated rates of socio-economic development of non-Russian peoples as compared with the Russians has led to the lagging of the important characteristics of its socio-economic, demographic, and cultural-political development from most other peoples, to which it has helped and continues to provide assistance. Thus, according to the 1970 population census, the security of the employed Russian population by specialists with higher education in both the city and the village turned out to be one and a half to three times lower than among the peoples of Central Asia, Kazakhstan, and Transcaucasia. Practically, Russians turned out to be on the last place among the nations with the union republics; nevertheless, the largest universities of the RSFSR still give up 25% of their places for out-of-competition enrollment of representatives of previously backward and now advanced nations, exacerbating this new de facto inequality.

Budget laws still create the most favorable budget regime for the republics of the Transcaucasus, Kazakhstan, and Central Asia. In addition to high (up to 100%) deductions to the budgets of these republics from turnover tax - the main source of budget revenues - these republics, as a rule, receive all 100% personal income tax in their budget, while the RSFSR never received more than 50%, not to mention the fact that this republic has never benefited from subsidies from the all-Union budget. Although the RSFSR has the highest load of acreage on 1 of a busy collective farmer and the largest number of man-days worked in a year, the incomes of collective farmers are relatively low, almost 2 times lower than in the Tajik SSR, where the arable land load per collective farmer is 8 times lower than in the RSFSR.

The low incomes of the rural population of the RSFSR, especially the Non-Black Earth Region, are a consequence of the low profitability of its collective and state farms. The negative aggregate profitability of agriculture of the RSFSR is explained primarily by the purchasing and retail price policy. Through this policy, the main redistribution of national income created in the republic, region is carried out.

Purchase prices for one of the main agricultural crops produced in the RSFSR — potatoes do not even compensate for the costs of its production. In farms of the Non-Chernozem Region, the cost price of a centner of potatoes is 9Rub.61cop., And it is handed over to the State in 6Rub.06cop. (including discounts on starch, non-standard, etc.). Thus, the more the farm produces potatoes, the higher the losses.

Unprofitable is also the production of flax and other agricultural products produced on the territory of the RSFSR. At the same time, the prices of cotton, rice, tea, citrus fruits, and other crops produced in the southern republics enable their producers to receive fairly high incomes. Enough of such a comparison. Potato and citrus production requires almost the same labor costs, so prices are almost the same all over the world, or differ two to three times, and only in the USSR is this difference 20-35 multiple: potatoes stand in 20 (compared to oranges) or 35 (compared to lemons) is cheaper than citrus fruits. Tax policy is still the least favorable for the RSFSR.

Although the RSFSR produces most agricultural machinery, electricity and fertilizers, the supply of mineral fertilizers per 1 hectare of arable land and the power of agriculture here is 2-4 times lower than in most other republics, which negatively affects crop yields and rural incomes. Despite the fact that the RSFSR produces more than half of meat and dairy products, the population of its regions is provided with this product in the worst way, long and constantly experiencing a deficit thereof, while other republics are in a better position. Poor security of the Russian regions with food forces them to go shopping for food in the neighboring regions of Ukraine, Belarus, and the Baltic states, where supply is better. These assaults often cause anti-Russian sentiments among the local population.

The RSFSR has the worst infrastructure development. Here, the percentage of families with no separate apartments living in hostels is higher than in other republics.

Meanwhile, the housing supply of the RSFSR should be no worse, and better than in other regions, due to the fact that more than a third of its territory is located in harsh climatic zones. Russia is poorly endowed with roads. By the length of paved roads per square kilometer of territory, it occupies the last place among the republics, slightly ahead of only the Turkmen SSR, 85% of whose territory is desert!
The Russian people have significantly limited opportunities for the realization of political rights, compared with non-Russian peoples.

Thus, in 1980 of more than half of the adult population of the country and more than 60% of the industrial working class, Russians made up only 26% of the deputies of the Supreme Soviets of the Union republics, 35% were deputies of the Supreme Soviets of the autonomous republics and 45% among the deputies of local councils. Thus, the Russians are represented in the higher authorities twice as low as in the industrial working class, which contradicts the position of the leading role of the industrial working class.

The situation with national history, science and culture is no better. The RSFSR is the only republic that does not have its own Academy of Sciences.
The demographic situation of Central Asia, where about 10% of the population of the USSR live, is studied in four republican Academies of Sciences, whereas the situation in the dying Nonchernozem zone of the RSFSR, which unites almost a quarter of the USSR population, is not in a single academic institution. The institutes of the Academy of Sciences of the USSR, naturally, do not deal with republican and regional topics. The RSFSR is now the only republic (including autonomous) that does not have its own published history. The military exploits of each of the 12 heroes of the Soviet Union - the Kirghiz are reflected in the republican scientific and fiction literature, sung in musical works, cinema, and painting. After all, little Kyrgyzstan has the Academy of Sciences with its humanitarian institutions, including the Institute of History, and the film studio, and the unions of writers, composers, artists, etc. But about the exploits 260 heroes of the Soviet Union - the natives of the Smolensk region and all 8000 Russian heroes of the Soviet Union is known much less. Our distant descendants, if they take in head to study the history of 2 World War I only from our republican editions, will be surprised: why didn’t many Russians fought against fascism in that distant era, especially since the war was on their territory. And if they fought, why did they leave no trace in the scientific literature? Among the dozens of volumes of scientific historical books, including collections of documents on the role of a people in the defeat of the German fascist troops, there is not a single one devoted to the role of the Russian people. In any republic, excluding the RSFSR, children in schools teach the history of the USSR and the history of their native land, the republic.

It brings love to the native land, to his people, to his nation. Russian schools teach only the history of the USSR.
The absence of the Academy of Sciences in the RSFSR interferes with the training of scientific personnel. In 1980, the State Committee on Science and Technology and the Presidium of the USSR Academy of Sciences decided on the priority training of scientific personnel for the regions of the RSFSR most in need. However, the decision was stillborn.
For example, in 1981-1982. 15 out-of-competition places in the graduate school of the Institute of State and Law of the Academy of Sciences of the USSR were distributed as follows: 7 places in the republics of Central Asia and Kazakhstan; 4 - the republics of the Caucasus; one each by Belarus and Latvia, and one each by Bashkiria and Udmurtia. Indicators of the socio-cultural development of the Russian people are in one of the last places, and if compared with the corresponding indicators of the peoples of the RSFSR.

At the same time, every year Russians occupy lower and lower places. According to the 1979 census, by the number of persons with higher education per capita of the employed population, Russians were among the peoples of the RSFSR in the 16 place among the townspeople and in the 19 place among the villagers, yielding one and a half to two times even to the Buryats, Yakuts, Chukchi.

The artificially inhibited rates of the socio-economic and cultural-political development of the Russian people led to alarming demographic results: the Russians experienced the most dramatic drop in the birth rate. (When assessing the birth rate of the Russian population, one should make allowances for its mechanical increase due to assimilation. Up to 98% of children born in marriages mixed with Russian, especially in Russian-Tatar and Russian-Jewish families, call themselves Russians. This mechanical increase is essentially improves the demographic characteristics of the Russians and worsens them among the Jews, Tatars and other peoples with a negative assimilation balance). The nation was facing the threat of depopulation. The birth rate of Russians for a long time does not provide a simple reproduction of the population. An increasing number of families are limited to one child. The demographic degradation of the Russian people is also expressed in the fact that the life expectancy of men in Russian villages in many regions (Arkhangelsk, Kalinin, Novgorod, Pskov, etc.) fell to 54-57 years and is 5-7 years lower than in rural terrain of the USSR as a whole. The harmful effect on the health of the Russian nation is exerted by the fact that Russian women constitute the majority of people employed in physical, unskilled, harmful to the female body works, and this adversely affects the health of their children.

The small number of children in Russian villages leads to the closure of schools or to the small number of students - 10-15 students per school. In these 1-2 schools, teachers teach all subjects. Pupils finishing such schools find themselves in worse starting conditions, which hinders the possibilities of their further social advancement as compared with the children of other republics.

All this testifies to the lack of attention to the fate of the Russian people, who are in unequal with other conditions. Throughout Soviet history, the Russian people played a decisive role in the conduct of socialist transformations, in the development of the industrial working class, in the production of material goods, the formation of the all-union budget, the solution of military-strategic problems, the development of science and art. The depopulation and degradation of this people is incompatible with the social and scientific-technical progress of the entire Soviet state as a whole.
Do we need to prove the great role that 14 played by the existing republican CCs of the Communist Parties and Academies of Sciences in the development of half of the population of our state played a 50? Why not create such bodies for the other half of it - the Russian? Such bodies with such powers are needed, at a minimum, for each economic region of the RSFSR, or even for each oblast. Tyumen or Gorky regions, for example, having no less economic significance and economic potential than Kyrgyzstan or Estonia, should have authorities and administrations that have no less authority and competence. These areas should be provided with not a bad infrastructure and opportunities for its development. Requires a serious reform of the management of the territory. The current structure was good XNUMX years ago, and now it slows down the development of the material and spiritual forces of society. Each region of equal economic importance should have equal socio-economic rights and powers, as well as equal opportunities for their realization.

The economic, socio-demographic and national policy of the Soviet state should strictly obey the constitutional principle of equality of nations, equality not only of rights, but also of the possibilities of realization of these rights for a representative of any, including Russian, nation in all spheres of the material and spiritual life of society. The provision, written down in the CPSU Program, that “the party will continue to pursue a policy ensuring the actual equality of all nations and ethnic groups with full regard for their interests, paying special attention to those areas of the country that need more rapid development” has not lost its significance and relevance .

For each of the provisions set forth here, detailed argumentation and factual material can be presented. ”
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  1. Ragnarek
    Ragnarek April 8 2013 16: 03 New
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    Yes, the Russian people all their history lived and died for others, it would be time to think about themselves already. And then, out of habit, Russia owes that, Russia owes it. Russia paid all its debts to its neighbors in blood. As in the USSR they pulled the country at the expense of the RSFSR, so now (thank God to a lesser extent) we are pulling the ears of our neighbors.
    1. ShturmKGB
      ShturmKGB April 8 2013 16: 06 New
      +7
      In view of the degradation of the 90s, the "Soviet times" were viewed as the times of prosperity, but even there, if you look closely, there were excesses and exaggerations, so now we will do our life, and not live in the past or the future ...
    2. sichevik
      sichevik April 8 2013 16: 57 New
      +1
      "For others" - for whom? But what about the millions of Ukrainians, Belarusians, Azerbaijanis, Armenians, Georgians, Kazakhs, Kirghiz, Tatars, Bashkirs and many, many non-Russians who died in the Great Patriotic War? It was not only the Russians who fought, the entire Soviet People fought. And they also rebuilt the country after the war with the whole world. Everyone worked - the entire Soviet people. Someone more, someone less, but EVERYTHING worked. And there is no need to ascribe all the merits to yourself.
      1. Ragnarek
        Ragnarek April 8 2013 17: 58 New
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        You take a short segment of history, but even during the Second World War the bulk of the people took over the Russian people (Ukrainians and Belarusians also belong to the Russian ethnic group.
        1. Earthman
          Earthman April 8 2013 19: 11 New
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          Quote: Ragnarek
          You take a short segment of history, but even during the Second World War the bulk of the people took over the Russian people (Ukrainians and Belarusians also belong to the Russian ethnic group.

          Yes, solid brain srach. it is necessary to manage to call Belarusians and Ukrainians Russian Russians. do they call themselves that?
          1. Concept1
            Concept1 April 9 2013 08: 13 New
            +1
            Earthman Yes, solid brain srach. it is necessary to manage to call Belarusians and Ukrainians Russian Russians. do they call themselves that?
            I explain for you very simply Ukraine-MaloRussiya, BeloRussia and Russia are both Elder, Middle and Junior ZhUZ
            So I hope it is clear .... fool
            1. Earthman
              Earthman April 9 2013 08: 22 New
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              Quote: concept1
              I explain for you very simply Ukraine-MaloRussiya, BeloRussia and Russia are both Elder, Middle and Junior ZhUZ
              So I hope it is clear ....

              Understand the wise guy, Zhuzy is a generic division so that mixing does not occur, and does not go into the comparison and explanation of Ukraine, Belarus, Russia. I understand that if the language is the same, but they speak different languages ​​of the same group, and you don’t need to prove something like there are many Russian speakers
        2. Murat 09
          Murat 09 April 8 2013 19: 19 New
          +2
          Well, how can I say, for example, 88000 people went to the front from my people of 15000 people, almost all the men died, 9000 of them died, only 250 people went to the Germans before the NKVD data, and Stalin sent the remaining children, women and old people to Kazakhstan where half died in the first year of exile. the rest worked, many became honored workers and even heroes of social services. labor. Well, who made the war more burdens.
          1. Gecko
            Gecko April 8 2013 21: 13 New
            +5
            Stalin - Georgians if anything, do not blame Russian ...
            Already tired of the fact that the Russians are to blame for all universal problems ...
          2. AndreyAB
            AndreyAB April 9 2013 06: 30 New
            +3
            Yes, of course, your people suffered more, and they worked better and were not deservedly punished, and my people turned out to be the most privileged and the last, both grandfathers died in the war, grandmothers with five children on the collective farm plowed for workdays, and in the village where by the way bread was grown even at 70 e years, they brought bread twice a week and gave 3 rolls of black and two white, yes, electricity was only eight hours a day, and this is a 6-hour drive from Moscow, and in Siberia I personally, if you want to believe it, you don’t want to be there He rode alone along the road and he showed, counted ten villages of 100-200 yards and only forty men came from the war, but it turns out since you’re less oppressed and more, and you don’t present the Georgians with all kinds of famines, you have Russian as always to blame, but you never remembered the good, and when it was hard for the Russians, so you kicked everyone out of their republics in a row and it was in front of my eyes, and the Slavs have no such conclusion as faithful and good friends, and if no one remembers what measure the head assistant from Russia mischief where in the world, and no matter what nationality, so they call him Russian and he doesn’t mind, it's ridiculous.
          3. bezumnyiPIT
            bezumnyiPIT April 9 2013 12: 06 New
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            Soviet people
        3. Yeraz
          Yeraz April 9 2013 10: 35 New
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          Quote: Ragnarek
          You take a short segment of history, but even during the Second World War the bulk of the people took over the Russian people (Ukrainians and Belarusians also belong to the Russian ethnic group.

          In terms of numbers, the population of Russia at that time was several times higher than that of others and the percentage of the population of the Union republics was not a little lost. Azerbaijan sent only 25 percent of its population to the front and half did not return, plus the number of people working in the rear to support the front. in other republics, representatives of these constituencies themselves will be better off.
      2. Yoshkin Kot
        Yoshkin Kot April 8 2013 19: 24 New
        +7
        Yeah, I just forgot to mention that all the brothers subsidized at the expense of the poverty of the Russian people
      3. Ivan.
        Ivan. April 9 2013 17: 14 New
        0
        Usual jerking
    3. Ragnarek
      Ragnarek April 8 2013 17: 56 New
      +3
      I’m interested in this: so that I don’t comment on two votes stably minus, who minus show up
      1. Normal
        Normal April 8 2013 19: 29 New
        +2
        Quote: Ragnarek
        I’m interested in this: so that I do not comment on two votes stably minus
        This means that you have "fans" laughing Be proud!
        .... There, others in the distance, God knows.
        And here, we have enemies.
        Would be an honor, would be an honor ...
        In addition, the rating is positive, so everything is fine.

        PS
        Cons are not mine (anyway here)
    4. Yoshkin Kot
      Yoshkin Kot April 8 2013 19: 23 New
      +3
      Well, and what other evidence is needed that the Judeo-Marxists are occupiers?
    5. AndreyAB
      AndreyAB April 9 2013 06: 17 New
      +2
      And these neighbors strive to spit in the back.
    6. bezumnyiPIT
      bezumnyiPIT April 9 2013 12: 07 New
      0
      Carry this proud burden -
      Sons went
      To serve you subject
      To the peoples of the ends of the earth -
      To hard labor for the sullen
      Restless savages
      Half demons
      Half the people.

      Carry this proud burden -
      Be even and businesslike
      Don't succumb to fears
      And do not count insults;
      Simple clear word
      Repeat for the hundredth time -
      This to your ward
      Generous harvested.

      Carry this proud burden -
      Fight for the peace of others -
      Make the disease retreat
      And Hunger shut your mouth;
      But how are you closer to success
      The better you recognize
      Pagan Negligence,
      Treacherous Lies.

      Carry this proud Burden
      Not like an arrogant king -
      To hard black work
      Like a slave, self-control;
      You don’t see during life
      Ports, highways, bridges -
      So build them, leaving
      Graves of people like you!

      Carry this proud burden -
      You will be rewarded
      Challenging commanders
      And the cries of the wild tribes:
      "What do you want, damn,
      Why confuse minds?
      Do not lead us to the light
      From the sweet Egyptian Darkness! "

      Carry this proud burden -
      Ungrateful labor, -
      Ah, too loud speeches
      Your fatigue is betrayed!
      By what you have already done
      And ready to do more,
      Silent people will measure
      You and your Gods.

      Carry this proud burden -
      Far from youth
      Forget easy glory
      Cheap laurel wreath -
      Now your maturity
      And rebellion to fate
      Appreciate the bitter and sober
      The court of equals to you!
      R. Kipling
    7. Ivan.
      Ivan. April 9 2013 17: 09 New
      +1
      Ragnarek (1) RU
      "Yes, the Russian people have lived and died for others throughout their history."
      That's what he is valuable for, what was the truth, he shared the last, did not spare his life not only for his own sake but also for strangers, and preferred to see his brothers as strangers rather than competitors.
      And you propose to turn into burghers who only think about themselves.

      "As in the USSR, at the expense of the RSFSR, they pulled the country, so now (thank God, to a lesser extent) we are pulling by the ears of our neighbors." -

      It’s absolutely true, but now we are pulling the United States, NATO, Israel at the triple pace of which they scatter a part in the form of 30 pieces of silver so that the bickering does not stop among us.
      In the book by Ivan Drozdov "Occupation" there is some information about those who are responsible for the current situation. http://ivandrozdov.ru/
    8. StolzSS
      StolzSS April 11 2013 00: 33 New
      0
      Probably we will have our own Hitlel and teach the tricky neighbors to kiss the boots of the Russian people)))
  2. ShturmKGB
    ShturmKGB April 8 2013 16: 04 New
    0
    In view of the degradation of the 90s, "Soviet times" were seen as the heyday
  3. RPD
    RPD April 8 2013 16: 05 New
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    "The 1979 census recorded an amazing phenomenon: the percentage of people with higher education among Tajiks living on the territory of" their "republic is two times higher than among Tajiks living in the neighboring Uzbek SSR, although they are also an indigenous population there, but how would be "second-rate" indigenous for Uzbekistan. "
    the results of this "VO" are now visible both in Tajikistan and in Uzbekistan. returned to buy and donkeys
  4. avt
    avt April 8 2013 16: 05 New
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    Well, now, God forbid, you call yourself a Russian - just an extremist. Only Russian ponimash negative And this despite the fact that in the census 80% called themselves Russian! request
    1. Manager
      Manager April 8 2013 17: 12 New
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      Quote: avt
      in the census, 80% called themselves Russian!

      Wah! Kaneshnaman. Ozhny Russian) Already 3 knee went. (No offense to anyone) I live in Moscow simply and here, God forbid, there are 5-6 percent of native Muscovites. For a long time I propose to enter in the red book. I think in Russia the same situation as a whole is already. And as they say, if you are a minority, then sit and keep quiet, otherwise they will make me an extremist.
      Recently, my aunt at the entrance praised the janitor "Rossiyanin" for cleaning cleanly, to which she received the answer that, they say, we are not you drunks and we are able to work and soon you will work for us. Here's something like this!
      1. PN
        PN April 8 2013 19: 39 New
        +6
        About 4 years ago I happened to visit the city of Ukhta. The first impression when I got out at the station was that I came to the Caucasus! 90% of those who were there were people of Caucasian nationality! Here he is, the Russian North.
        1. z-exit
          z-exit April 8 2013 20: 19 New
          +5
          Same. I come on a business trip to the Trans-Baikal Territory, Mogocha. I think naive, that at least here I will take a break from these cute unshaven faces. Oh sure. As soon as I get out of the carriage to the pier of the station, the first thing I see is the "Karina" stall, I think, well, sometimes I pass to the next one - the sign "Karina - 2". The most expensive institution in this city was called "Caucasus" (now burned down).
          I feel not far off First Chukotka-Caucasian war.
          In general, the article still lacks Masons and Anunaki for complete nonsense.
      2. Yeraz
        Yeraz April 9 2013 10: 45 New
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        Quote: Manager
        Quote: avt
        in the census, 80% called themselves Russian!

        Wah! Kaneshnaman. Ozhny Russian) Already 3 knee went. (No offense to anyone) I live in Moscow simply and here, God forbid, there are 5-6 percent of native Muscovites. For a long time I propose to enter in the red book. I think in Russia the same situation as a whole is already. And as they say, if you are a minority, then sit and keep quiet, otherwise they will make me an extremist.
        Recently, my aunt at the entrance praised the janitor "Rossiyanin" for cleaning cleanly, to which she received the answer that, they say, we are not you drunks and we are able to work and soon you will work for us. Here's something like this!

        Well, with the current clubbing entertainment and with such a birth rate, yes, and blaming only the authorities is stupid. I have a lot of friends where they earn 30 thousand in the family, mother is a housewife and calmly father contains 3 children in this family, and seven Russians where father and mother work and 60 thousand are guaranteed to earn money, and in many cases they give birth to 1 more child and complain, it’s like a word. Well, at such a pace, Russians will certainly be a minority in St. Petersburg and Moscow, plus reverse assimilation will begin at a certain stage, when the Russians assimilate This is certainly not soon yet, but if at such a pace then in 30–40 the picture will be different.
    2. AndreyAB
      AndreyAB April 9 2013 06: 44 New
      +3
      And not only now, in the eighties he served in the army, there the grandfathers of the Azrbaydzhantsi beat the young people in a crowd, and when we gathered and piled them, practically one to one, the special officer promised to put us all in prison for the national policy, there was a noise and the victims were national cadres, and Such a policy of humiliation of Russian Ukrainians and Belarusians has been going on for a long time and does not stop to this day, the example of a comrade oxer kills a young guy on the street and all justice proves that after the blow he was still alive and died from a collision with the curb, but the curb cannot be punished, the difference is that murdered Russian and innocent murderer of the national cadre, but in the metro, on the contrary, the Russian girl decided to stand up for herself in front of the national cadres with the help of traumatics, what impudence is definitely to blame and no one took into account that there was a knife in the hands of the national cadre - this is a detail of the national costume, blame "shameless "Russian. And we see this approach everywhere, even Gaster in our country have more rights than we do, we are even forbidden to defend ourselves, wait for the police to protect. And on account of the fact that they are ashamed to call themselves RUSSIAN, they are no longer Russians - they are people of the world without family and tribe.
      1. Yeraz
        Yeraz April 9 2013 11: 53 New
        +1
        Quote: AndreyAB
        And not only now, in the eighties he served in the army, there the grandfathers of the Azrbaydzhantsi beat the young people in a crowd, and when we gathered and piled them, practically one to one, the special officer promised to put us all in prison for the national policy, there was a noise and the victims were national cadres, and Such a policy of humiliation of Russian Ukrainians and Belarusians has been going on for a long time and does not stop to this day, the example of a comrade oxer kills a young guy on the street and all justice proves that after the blow he was still alive and died from a collision with the curb, but the curb cannot be punished, the difference is that murdered Russian and innocent murderer of the national cadre, but in the metro, on the contrary, the Russian girl decided to stand up for herself in front of the national cadres with the help of traumatics, what impudence is definitely to blame and no one took into account that there was a knife in the hands of the national cadre - this is a detail of the national costume, blame "shameless "Russian. And we see this approach everywhere, even Gaster in our country have more rights than we do, we are even forbidden to defend ourselves, wait for the police to protect. And on account of the fact that they are ashamed to call themselves RUSSIAN, they are no longer Russians - they are people of the world without family and tribe.

        Well, rather, they gave it to someone's paws, and they harnessed for them, but they left you left.
        Well, about the girl who was shooting in the subway, so you had some kind of incorrect info there weren’t national footage, there were Russian companies in one of which 1 national footage was Ibrahim who had a knife, but this fucking shot not at Ibrahim, but in a Russian from their company, and a couple of shots when this guy was lying on the ground, and Iragim was even at a distance. And now this Russian guy should be at the doctor’s place for the rest of his life, she’s definitely pierced something there. Therefore, he suggests a fight 2 Russian companies in one of which there was only 1 Ibrahim, and besides, they didn’t shoot at him, but at the lying Russian, I think that it’s uncontrollable and I was unknowingly or deliberately predisposed as an interethnic conflict.
        If you do not agree, write in a personal, so as not to clog this thread.
        And as for Gaster, they have more rights, but by God, what rights does the Uzbek prey without documents have?
        And whoever has money even though he is from Honduras, yes he will be right.
  5. Russian
    Russian April 8 2013 16: 15 New
    +7
    And as soon as the Union collapsed, all of Central Asia again sharply lost ground, in fact, returned to its previous level. But we paid dearly for this progress! In general, we need to unite only with Ukraine, Belarus, and maybe Kazakhstan, but with the rest we have purely business relations, otherwise it’s enough, just to ask for help right away, but there’s no return!
    1. mda
      mda April 8 2013 17: 11 New
      +6
      Quote: р_у_с_с_к_и_й
      In general, we need to unite only with Ukraine, Belarus, and maybe Kazakhstan, but with the rest we have purely business relations, otherwise it’s enough, just to ask for help right away, but there’s no return!

      I agree that it is necessary to unite only with Ukraine, Belarus and Kazakhstan, and in the rest, bring the right people to power so that there are no vagaries like Rahmon.
  6. Ruslan_F38
    Ruslan_F38 April 8 2013 16: 17 New
    11
    Everything is absolutely true. Take for example Tatarstan, nationalism rushing out of all the cracks. The entire oil industry (and indeed the entire large business) is owned by the sons and friends of Shaimiev and Minnikhanov, and note that they are far from Russian. With their very identity, the richness of the Tatar language, their titular nation and ostentatious respect for other nationalities, those living in Tatarstan successfully entered the 21st century and shout about it at every corner and constantly play it playing the national card in front of Moscow and quite successfully, it should be noted. If you don’t know Tatar or not Tatar, there’s no career, business will be taken away. In a word, there is no question of any equality. Tatarstan is like a beautiful sweetie, turn around and inside the city, but.
    1. Mother russia
      Mother russia April 8 2013 16: 35 New
      19
      Oh, that's for sure. Been in Tatarstan - the local Russian population is often pressed, and so that you can’t even utter a peep.
      The exception is Kazan, but it is the capital, and there they try to prevent it. In other cities, such as Almetyevsk, Bugulma, Leninogorsk and others, the Russian local population, formerly indigenous, is pressed much more.
      Very disappointing. I have best friends - Russian, Tatar, Turkmen and Dagestan. Everyone speaks Russian very cleanly. And everyone does not accept harsh nationalist behavior. All for equality and fraternity of minorities. And none of them has ever been impudent, on the contrary - we are all friends and protect each other.
      You know, there are just a lot of people with low intelligence who are yelling "down with chock!" or "Rusnya is under us! We live on a high!"
      And yet, there are more good people than these fools who are ready to kill each other. But even though there are fewer of them, they are nevertheless judged by them - they are a kind of marker, by a small number of which they judge the whole people. This is extremely wrong.

      The upbringing of young generations must be improved. Then there will be no such intolerance towards each other. During World War II there was no division according to nationality
      - went into battle and Died for a common homeland.
      It is impossible to dishonor the Bright Memory of the ancestors and their peoples. It is worth living more worthy. And more culturally.
      1. Ruslan_F38
        Ruslan_F38 April 8 2013 16: 43 New
        +7
        That is the point, there are not enough intelligent people, the upbringing of young people is absent and as a result, what we have now is complete infinity, the absence of any moral principles. As for Kazan - I disagree, there, in fact, everything is much worse. It just does not appear at the household level, for which it is reflected in all segments of the population.
        1. Mother russia
          Mother russia April 8 2013 17: 30 New
          +3
          Quote: Ruslan_F38
          As for Kazan - I disagree, there, in fact, everything is much worse.


          Ooooh ... And the nationalists got there. Absolutely insolent.
          What prevents to live as before - a person is a brother, comrade and friend? No, it is imperative to oppress the rights of others. It is not even the nations as a whole, but certain groups of people that cultivate hatred of other nations. Everyone, alas, bends his "stick". And, as it seems to me, they are no longer just bending, but bending.
      2. djon3volta
        djon3volta April 8 2013 18: 17 New
        -1
        Quote: Mother Russia
        Russian local population, formerly indigenous, are pressed much more.

        why are you breach, a nonsense? he’s been ... you have been and I’m living here, and all my life, and no one has oppressed me. Have you heard enough of him? am
        1. Mother russia
          Mother russia April 8 2013 18: 43 New
          +4
          Quote: djon3volta
          why are you breach, a nonsense? he’s been ... you have been and I’m living here, and all my life, and no one has oppressed me. Have you heard enough of him?


          Tell me your city. What city do you live in? My relatives live in Nizhnekamsk, Almetyevsk, and Buinsk. In the shuttles and the lower one, I don’t argue, I correctly said about Almetyevsk, Bugulma and Leninogorsk. So do not.
          A prostitute Navalny never respected. He was like m, so he will remain.
          1. Rustiger
            Rustiger April 8 2013 22: 30 New
            +2
            Tell me your city.


            Let me tell you. I was born in Chistopol (now there are two apartments, I’m coming for the weekend), I live in Zelenodolsk with my family, and every day I go to work in the kabalny Kazanga.
            With Ruslan_F38 I agree 100%!
        2. Normal
          Normal April 8 2013 19: 40 New
          +6
          Quote: djon3volta
          I live here, and all my life, and no one oppressed me. Have you heard enough of the bulk?

          John, oppressing you is all one that hurts the sick and the poor - a great sin. If you also speak out in life as on a forum, then you should not be oppressed, but you should be sorry. Penny there to file, pat on the head ....
          Do not you dream about Bulk? wassat
      3. Semurg
        Semurg April 8 2013 20: 41 New
        +3
        You write better good people better, but they are worse organized. And bad people are always convex, always in sight, and quickly sniff together.
    2. djon3volta
      djon3volta April 8 2013 18: 12 New
      -6
      something you thickened the paint, too.

    3. Lignitz
      Lignitz April 8 2013 23: 02 New
      -10
      I can say that I respect the Tatars. I will cite an example: Kazakhstan, since the 1950s was inhabited by millions of Slavs on its territory, Kazakhs began to turn into a national minority and that the worst was gradually Russifying, with the exception of rural residents. So, the Tatars did not allow themselves to be subjected to Russification when the Russian regions and the overwhelming majority of Russians were around. Their language did not die, as it already died in Kazastan, their faith and culture remained and remain the core for the people.
      1. lewerlin53rus
        lewerlin53rus April 9 2013 01: 30 New
        +6
        Quote: Lignitz
        Tatars did not allow themselves to be Russified

        Is this what you are taught in Americos? Just the Russians never crushed the ethnic groups, unlike the arrogant Saxons, who practically destroyed all the indigenous ethnic groups throughout the American continent.
  7. erased
    erased April 8 2013 16: 17 New
    12
    As the program was introduced under Stalin, it was left until the 80s. Although it should have changed back in the 50s. But Stalin died, and Khrushch and Ordenopets did not bother themselves with such a "trifle." As a result, the union republics received huge funds and growth, and Russia trailed behind. But even all the wealth brought by the neighbors managed to lose. And now their economy is below the floor. They themselves do not know how to work without Russians. Not so productive, anyway. Look how many guest workers came here.
  8. ziqzaq
    ziqzaq April 8 2013 16: 26 New
    13
    In 1973, among the scientific workers of the USSR, the lowest qualifications were Russians and Belarusians. They had the lowest percentage of individuals with a degree. Nevertheless, there were graduate students per 100 scientists: among Russians - 9.7 people; Belarusians - 13.4; Turkmen - 26.2; Kyrgyz - 23.8
    Everything is explained very simply if in the RSFSR a scientific degree had to be "protected", then in some places it was simply bought .......
    1. Sirocco
      Sirocco April 8 2013 16: 43 New
      10
      Quote: ziqzaq
      Everything is explained very simply if in the RSFSR a scientific degree had to be "protected", then in some places it was simply bought .......

      Not in the eyebrow, but in the eye. Although the situation is now no better than in the past years. But everything is bought by all the same people of KN. I recall the program TAXI A Kulichkova, about three years ago, he was driving one such picket, so this young man was studying at one of the elite higher educational institutions in Moscow. And knowledge is zero. Although now, that would steal money from the state treasury, shine with the mind and inappropriately.
    2. screw cutter
      screw cutter April 8 2013 17: 14 New
      +6
      Well, they didn’t just buy, there were instructions from above, and they dragged these so-called nat-cadres by the ears. All leading positions in the Union republics were mandatory and only nat.kadra. I will tell you a secret, they still believe that they are the most intelligent , only without the Russians, they can’t do anything.
    3. Mother russia
      Mother russia April 8 2013 17: 37 New
      +4
      Quote: ziqzaq
      Everything is explained very simply if in the RSFSR a scientific degree had to be "protected", then in some places it was simply bought .......


      It was like that. My grandfather, a Turkmen, lived and studied at a boarding school after the war. After the war, it was so hungry that for good school, they gave him boots that he wore until the institute. He entered, graduated, worked, taught. Only three higher educations. Ph.D. Well-known specialist in geology throughout the Union. Even the mine is named after his name.
      And there was another guy - the son of someone thieves. This one was already bought and he was quickly assigned an academician. And authorship of other people's scientific works is often appropriated to himself.
      So here it does not depend on nationality, but on the person himself.
      Someone from the bottom into worthy people grew up, and someone as he was * damn thieves, so he remained.
      1. ziqzaq
        ziqzaq April 8 2013 17: 57 New
        +5
        Quote: Mother Russia
        So here it does not depend on nationality, but on the person himself.

        I completely agree with you, but "buying" a degree during the USSR, for example in the Caucasus, was much easier than, for example, in Tomsk ... hunger swelled, the youth sees everything, understands everything ... Now try to explain to such that it is necessary to study, and not "bash with money" ...
        1. Mother russia
          Mother russia April 8 2013 18: 44 New
          +3
          Quote: ziqzaq
          I completely agree with you, but "buying" a degree during the USSR, for example in the Caucasus, was much easier than, for example, in Tomsk ... hunger swelled, the youth sees everything, understands everything ... Now try to explain to such that it is necessary to study, and not "bash with money" ...


          Totally agree with you. Unfortunately, this is especially true now.
  9. Tartary
    Tartary April 8 2013 16: 33 New
    +5
    Put article minus!

    Well, I do not believe in these stuffing from a distance of 32 years ...
    Where was this article, say 20 years ago?
    And ten years ago?
    Well, at least 5 years ago?
    So was she lying under the cloth when on such an info all and sundry cut coupons?
    What turns out? We’ve been sitting here for almost 5 years now, reading smart and not very things, but about such a scientist in the field of statistics, like Galina Litvinova, neither with hearing, nor with a sense of smell ...
    Where was this article before and why was it so interesting that the site’s colleagues caught it just now?
    Let it be that "we" - it's me in vain, maybe I'm the only one so poorly educated, maybe there is such a lady super-specialist in statistics, but all these digressions at the beginning of the article in order to explain to me (!) Why I learn about such a topic in In the 21st century, I am immediately confused and forced to make a stupid face ...
    Perhaps I am the only one who thought so?
    Maybe I’m not right by dullness - let it be so ... Everything is one, the article already has a minus.
    1. Mikhail3
      Mikhail3 April 8 2013 16: 48 New
      -1
      http://www.rusinst.ru/articletext.asp?rzd=1&id=651
      Banned in Google and Yandex? Sorry...
      1. Tartary
        Tartary April 8 2013 17: 18 New
        +5
        Quote: Mikhail3
        http://www.rusinst.ru/articletext.asp?rzd=1&id=651
        Banned in Google and Yandex? Sorry...

        Thanks for the link.
        Found, read - the institute was created in 2003.
        Why do we need it at a time when everything is different?
        Why all the riots when the "helmsman" leads the country to unification in an imperial format with the peoples of the former USSR?
        Yes, God is already with him, from the USSR - we drove through, you won’t return ...

        What or who exactly at this moment makes the institute workers take out skeletons from the closet and, dressed in "Adidas", show us, you?

        Maybe the institute is included in 654 NGOs and scribbles works at the expense of "friends"?
        The site has only a list of scientists and academics unknown to me ...
    2. A. Yaga
      A. Yaga April 8 2013 17: 22 New
      +2
      Perhaps I am the only one who thought so?
      Maybe I'm wrong on grayness - so be it ...


      Yes, wrong.
      This article is not news, but a memory.
      I have not read this particular article before, but all this was already heard and printed in the 80s. And then "bam" .... and ... "perestroika" ...
      1. Tartary
        Tartary April 8 2013 17: 37 New
        +1
        Quote: A. Yaga
        This article is not news, but a memory.
        I have not read this particular article before, but all this was already heard and printed in the 80s. And then "bam" .... and ... "perestroika" ...

        I will repeat the link - http://www.rusinst.ru/contents.asp?id=1
        What kind of memories are there? fool
        What's "bam" and perestroika? In the sense that perestroika has strengthened the censorship? On the contrary - bang !!! and in circulation for tugriks!
        I smile, b-ka A. Yaga with you ... For so many centuries, and all as a girl are naive? lol
        The institute has existed since 2003, the work itself entered the journal "Our Contemporary" in the mid-80s, based on the 1979 census. And where was this work published in the period from the beginning of perestroika to 2003? request
        Maybe some "samizdat"? After all, under Yeltsin, censorship was - AWESOME! am
      2. A. Yaga
        A. Yaga April 8 2013 17: 40 New
        0
        Quote: A. Yaga
        Perhaps I am the only one who thought so?
        Maybe I'm wrong on grayness - so be it ...


        Yes, wrong.
        This article is not news, but a memory.
        I have not read this particular article before, but all this was already heard and printed in the 80s. And then "bam" .... and ... "perestroika" ...

        I am surprised. Who does not like that this information was not a secret in the 80s.
        They put a minus - then I do not like it!
        1. Tartary
          Tartary April 8 2013 17: 51 New
          0
          Quote: A. Yaga
          I am surprised. Who does not like that this information was not a secret in the 80s.
          They put a minus - then I do not like it!


          The article says the opposite, that they were secret back in the mid-80s, but perestroika, glasnost, democracy (in some places already liberal) came ...
          Then the USSR collapsed completely and they wrote such things in the gazette ... and for so many years ... and still.
          Where was this work? Why do not they publish the work, but write what anyone needs, then we will give detailed materials? Why so hard? As I understand it, they’ve scribbled an article - give a link to the abstract, candidate / doctoral dissertation ... At least, on their resume ...

          Madame ... repeat Put the author on dearer, I will only put ++++++ to put ...love
          Only chur not what blonde. lol
          1. A. Yaga
            A. Yaga April 8 2013 18: 21 New
            +1
            Quote: Tartary
            The article says the opposite, that they were secret back in the mid-80s, but perestroika, glasnost, democracy (in some places already liberal) came ...

            The most interesting thing was that it was published in central newspapers, with numbers and layouts. Only as the achievements of the Soviet system, such as what we have done, so the outskirts raised. Comparisons are approximately this: the republics' GDP in 1914 was 20% in relation to Russia, and in the 1980th it was 120%. Those who knew how to read between the lines even in syllables, clearly understood that Russians would soon begin to be cut.
            Quote: Tartary
            Only chur not what blonde. lol

            But the people are blondes with sympathy! wink repeat
            1. Tartary
              Tartary April 8 2013 18: 35 New
              +2
              Quote: A. Yaga
              But the people are blondes with sympathy!

              Sorry, madam ... repeat
              But I’m often afraid to make a mistake, guessing the paint manufacturer ... wink

              As in a joke from the USSR about a bus, when a man (!) Was pushed on the bottom step:
              - hear, redhead, pass on the ticket!
              - I'm not a redhead, but a blonde ...
              - C'mon ... you know better from below ...

              Do not be angry, ma'am ... love
              1. A. Yaga
                A. Yaga April 8 2013 19: 05 New
                +1
                Quote: Tartary
                Do not be mad, madam ... love

                Not resisted. Put an avatar.
    3. ImPerts
      ImPerts April 8 2013 18: 33 New
      +1
      I agree. "+" To you.
      In 90's and a little earlier, when they dumped everything and everything, this article was not and this specialist did not sound.
    4. hommer
      hommer April 8 2013 20: 22 New
      +2
      I agree with you, Tartary.
      I read the article, everything seems to be correct, but the feeling that there is some elusive falsity did not let go.
      Either the style of the article is not like the work of the 80s, or the question that you asked - where was this article of 32 years old, or the question, why is it being thrown right now, who benefits from it?
      Perhaps I am the only one who thought so?

      No, not the only one. Plus to you.
    5. z-exit
      z-exit April 8 2013 21: 04 New
      +1
      And I slapped fatty "minus". All the arguments on which the conspiracy theory, with which the article is saturated, was competently dispelled in 2 comments:
      Quote: erased
      As the program was introduced under Stalin, it was left until the 80s. Although it should have changed back in the 50s. But Stalin died, and Khrushch and Ordenopets did not bother themselves with such a "trifle". As a result, the Union republics received huge funds and growth, and Russia trailed behind

      +1 to you. There were adjustments called plan "corn" "de-industrialization" of the country. Approved by Khrushchev on March 21, 1953. The echo of the consequences of the implementation of this plan in practice reached up to the 90s.

      Quote: ziqzaq
      In 1973, among the scientific workers of the USSR, the lowest qualifications were Russians and Belarusians. They had the lowest percentage of individuals with a degree. Nevertheless, there were graduate students per 100 scientists: among Russians - 9.7 people; Belarusians - 13.4; Turkmen - 26.2; Kyrgyz - 23.8
      Everything is explained very simply if in the RSFSR a scientific degree had to be "protected", then in some places it was simply bought .......

      +1 +1 +1 +1 +1 +1 +1 +1 +1 +1 +1 +1 +1 +1 +1 +1 +1 +1 +1 +1 +XNUMX +XNUMX +XNUMX +XNUMX
  10. Andrey from Tver
    Andrey from Tver April 8 2013 16: 36 New
    +2
    And who should be said "thank you" for this genocide? The most important thing is not mentioned.
    1. Mikhail3
      Mikhail3 April 8 2013 16: 51 New
      +1
      Central Committee of the CPSU, why is it unclear? Without their full approval and tireless support, this course had no chance of life.
      1. Andrey from Tver
        Andrey from Tver April 8 2013 17: 20 New
        +1
        So the Central Committee of the CPSU has not existed for more than 20 years. But genocide exists. Who the hell is to blame ?!
        1. djon3volta
          djon3volta April 8 2013 18: 20 New
          0
          Quote: Andrey from Tver
          But genocide exists. Who the hell is to blame ?!

          people all over the planet die every second, and not only from old age. Is this also genocide?
        2. Volkhov
          Volkhov April 9 2013 00: 34 New
          +1
          The power did not change. Only clearance.
  11. djon3volta
    djon3volta April 8 2013 16: 39 New
    +2
    yes, it's time for everyone to understand that those who tried and are trying to destroy the Russians and Russia, with the help of wars, revolutions and provocations - this is not casual. I don’t know how many, but for some reason I’m sure that in 1000 years it was against Russia that there were most wars and raids. all these inclinations were ALWAYS carried out precisely from the border, always! that in the time of Nevsky, that in the 21st century, but with the help of "friends" but inside the country. Now there is an army of hamsters in the country controlled by NGOs, as well as uncontrolled zombie hamsters. but they act in the same way at the behest of someone else (their brains do not have to think).
    all of this comes from what? it is ordinary human envy, only on a global political scale. it’s a kindergarten, only an adult - I have it, but you don’t, then you have to take it away, if it doesn’t work, first beat it and take it away. I’ll not explain to our country, and so guess. And it's not just about resources and territory.
  12. Igarr
    Igarr April 8 2013 16: 48 New
    +7
    Well, brothers ... what to say.
    All this, of course - is sad, sad, annoying ...
    Only one thing is unclear - but now what has changed?
    If in the USSR it was prestigious to have a higher education, and in the national republics it was doubly prestigious ... now now you have a higher education - you yourself know the situation: lawyers, managers, merchandisers, cosmetologists, diet-blowers - at least heaps. And to work at the machine, damn it, there is nobody - they hire gastres.
    From the current education, that secondary, that higher - just right in the loop to climb.
    ....
    Under the USSR, we Russians were spread rot.
    Who?
    Now, in the Russian Federation .. we, in theory-on their own. And we are spread rot. In the army from the Caucasus-do not take. At a construction site - it’s easier for a Tajik to get a job.
    Who spread rot?
    Who constantly drives us into debt - take money, take money, take money. 100 thousand in 15 minutes. "The bank offers a profitable loan at 23%" - well, that is, in general.
    .
    Fixed a problem. Galina Litvinova - well done.
    And to do something .. WHAT?
    Who's guilty?
    We are Russians...?
    1. Gari
      Gari April 8 2013 17: 03 New
      +2
      Quote: Igarr
      Who constantly drives us into debt - take money, take money, take money. 100 thousand in 15 minutes. "The bank offers a profitable loan at 23%" - well, that is, in general.

      You just become homeless right away
    2. kvodrato
      kvodrato April 8 2013 17: 12 New
      0
      we have a lot of western parasites, that's who the Freemasons are to blame for, and almost everyone in power is sad.
    3. Black
      Black April 8 2013 17: 17 New
      +6
      Quote: Igarr
      Who's guilty?
      We are Russians...?

      The article was written a long time ago, and you are right, I have not lost relevance.
      I already spoke on the website as I was struck by the standard of living in Uzbekistan in the late 80s. Before that, he was in all corners of the country from west to east and from north to south. And he came to Central Asia for the first time, and my amazement knew no bounds. I expected to see wretchedness, but Russia turned out to be wretched.
      A quarter of a century has passed. Everything is back to square one, the circle has only changed. Already become. Grozny-city, Kazan, Ufa ... Where are they and where is their native Volgograd.
      Who's guilty? Yes, we are to blame. Until we understand that we need national-patriotic forces in power, until the Constitution states that the Russians are the titular nation on which the Russian Federation rests, we will continue to die.
  13. korm-yurii
    korm-yurii April 8 2013 16: 52 New
    +1
    Who was in the Union republics then, it was clear that they were living better. For example, in Yakutia already in the 80s there were coupons for butter and meat. We came on vacation to Ukraine and you, neither coupons nor shortages. Yakutia, which gives gold, diamonds was a beggar. The truth of the salary is somehow smeared it all.
    1. sichevik
      sichevik April 8 2013 17: 12 New
      +4
      Do not forget, dear Yuri, that in Yakutia your salaries were 10 times higher than in the same Ukraine.
      I know engineers, technologists, specialists who went to work in Yakutia, Norilsk, and generally somewhere beyond the Arctic Circle, to the very extreme north. In Zaporozhye, they worked as chiefs of the technical bureau, leading designers, heads of repair services at large enterprises, and went to the North to work turners, locksmiths, drivers. I will not argue a lot, and thereafter they began to work according to their own qualifications, very many of them stood there. And do not regret it.
      So, the Union republics also had their own problems that were not visible from the outside.
  14. shpuntik
    shpuntik April 8 2013 16: 59 New
    +7
    Beetles (lat.Melolonthinae) are a subfamily of beetles of the lamellar family, which includes more than 5700 species. Here we add the words of Lazar Moiseevich Kagan =) ovich (he held out the longest), he, blowing up the Cathedral of Christ the Savior, said, turning the handle of the dynamo: "Let's close the hem of Mother Russia!" About Ulyanov-Blank, Lev I. Bronstein, and the like, I generally keep quiet ... There is a story about Volodya Ulyanov-Blank, that when he swore to avenge his brother, he threw the cross into the latrine ... Here I see the root of evil. So that's it. In my humble opinion.
  15. Gari
    Gari April 8 2013 17: 02 New
    +6
    There was a country, there was a Power - but it was, although I am not from Russia, and not Russian, but I am for the truth, and the truth in this article, everything was real:
    All this testifies to the lack of attention to the fate of the Russian people, who are in unequal with other conditions. Throughout Soviet history, the Russian people played a decisive role in the conduct of socialist transformations, in the development of the industrial working class, in the production of material goods, the formation of the all-union budget, the solution of military-strategic problems, the development of science and art. The depopulation and degradation of this people is incompatible with the social and scientific-technical progress of the entire Soviet state as a whole.
    1. Black
      Black April 8 2013 17: 26 New
      +2
      Quote: Gari
      All this indicates a lack of attention to the fate of the Russian people.

      Let me disagree with you. "this" does not indicate that there was not enough attention, but that there was none at all. The attention was paid to the Karakalpaks, Nenets, Uzbeks, Avars, ... and the Russians - why attention? - there are many of them and so will survive. In addition, any sharpening of the "Russian" question raised a wave of indignation - this is nothing more than "Russian chauvinism" !!!
      1. Gari
        Gari April 8 2013 17: 42 New
        +6
        Black

        Quote: Chen
        All this indicates a lack of attention to the fate of the Russian people.

        This is an excerpt from an article with which I agree, I grew up with my grandmother on the Black Sea coast, in a very international city, one of the republics, everything was fine, we lived together, but the local staff, with diplomas, but without knowledge, held positions,, , ,, chief, and for them they worked and were specialists (doctors, engineers ..), others mainly Russians, Ukrainians, Germans, Armenians.
  16. optimist
    optimist April 8 2013 17: 03 New
    +4
    Let's leave alone the memory of the "communal" USSR. As much as we would not like, it will not be returned. But again, to unite with Belarusians and Ukrainians would be the very thing! And it’s time to take lessons from the past: how many of these black..pyh "wolves" do not feed, they will all look into the "forest". (I mean our North Caucasus) And the more our "guarantor" flirts with them, the worse for all of us ...
    1. Rustiger
      Rustiger April 8 2013 22: 50 New
      +2
      how many of these black .. puffy "wolves" do not feed, -they will all look in the "forest".

      I have been "working" with all these apricot Asians for seven years and have learned their petty little soul as my own five. But they are not looking "into the forest", but at our apartments, cars, summer cottages. They even look at their wives and children with a poorly concealed "desire", wiping off slobbering hawalniks. And they look at Russian peasants with malice, contempt, envy and hope that they will soon "get even". ... ...

      Scenario of the massacre of Russians from the old Uzbek

      I have one familiar Uzbek guest worker, 58 years old, they call our name Vanya, as I like in their name - I don’t remember, and it doesn’t matter. Vanya regularly worked on construction sites since 2002, he was in various alterations and saw a lot of things in Russia, naturally negative. Today Vanya went home to Uzbekistan and will not return anymore - his health has been badly damaged, and 3 sons have remained somewhere in the Moscow region and will provide him and his mother by sending money home. Today, before leaving, Vanya decided to tell me one thing.


      - You, the Russians, will soon end. You do not understand what is happening. You will be cut soon. Why are you so stupid ?! Can't you see - how many of us Muslims are around you? Don’t you see how your Jewish government deliberately brings us more and more? We are already many, very many, and soon we will be more than you.

      We live in your factories and factories for 300-500 people, we do not smoke, do not drink, do not use drugs. Many of our young people are actively involved in sports, all have edged weapons, and some already have firearms. Do not believe that we are paid a penny. We get paid more than you. For example, I get 40-45 thousand rubles at a construction site. And they tell you that we work for 10 thousand - they deceive you, this is a fairy tale for the district police officer to pay him less "for the roof" ... while paying.

      With us, i.e. Our leaders have a global plan. They did not invent it themselves, our owners, they themselves are pawns, although they drive expensive cars and own shops, markets, restaurants ...
      This plan is most likely not even conceived by your government, but by someone even higher. It lies in the fact that we all know what to do at hour H.


      the rest is here - http://oper-v-zakone.livejournal.com/80614.html
  17. bubla5
    bubla5 April 8 2013 17: 07 New
    +2
    Yes, nothing has changed even now, as the spreads of the inhabitants of Russia continue
  18. Atlon
    Atlon April 8 2013 17: 18 New
    11
    I lived in Armenia from 1974 to 1991, my father is an officer, of whom I served in the army for two years (88-90). So here. The supply was much better than in Russia. We went to relatives every year, there was nothing to compare. In Yerevan, I entered the Kiev Civil Aviation Institute, there was an exit admissions committee. There were only three such institutes in the USSR. In Kiev, in Moscow and in Riga. Moreover, in Kiev itself, the competition was 5-7 people per place, while the visiting committee enrolled in the university, if there were no deuces! I believe that the national division of the country is a terrible mistake of the Bolsheviks, which we do not disentangle. And pulling the ears of national minorities and backward nations, resulted in the fact that when in the 90s there was no freebie, they without hesitation separated from the USSR, taking with them the territories cut by them by the Bolsheviks.
    1. chehywed
      chehywed April 8 2013 17: 29 New
      +5
      Moreover, under Khrushchev the territory of Ukraine doubled, and Kazakhstan was cut into lands where there were no Kazakhs at all.
    2. A. Yaga
      A. Yaga April 8 2013 17: 29 New
      +5
      I believe that the national division of the country is a terrible mistake of the Bolsheviks, which we do not disentangle. And pulling the ears of national minorities and backward nations, resulted in the fact that when in the 90s there was no freebie, they without hesitation separated from the USSR, taking with them the territories cut by them by the Bolsheviks.

      Exactly!
    3. Egoza
      Egoza April 8 2013 17: 55 New
      -1
      Quote: Atlon
      I believe that the national division of the country is a terrible mistake of the Bolsheviks, which we do not disentangle.

      Let me disagree! At that time it was relevant and necessary for the development of the whole country. But no program can operate for 100 years. You always need to make changes and corrections, improve the program, while you need to do a thorough analysis and think carefully! But this was not done. And there was nobody to do it without I.V. Stalin.
      Shl. When you add a comment, it is thrown to the beginning of the article. Does everyone have this or am I so "happy"? laughing
      1. Atlon
        Atlon April 8 2013 18: 13 New
        +3
        Quote: Egoza
        Let me disagree! At that time it was relevant and necessary for the development of the whole country.

        I will not let it!
        I wonder what the relevance is? The better the Ukrainian SSR than the Kiev province? Or is the Tatar AO better than the Kazan province? And what is worse than the province: (Baku, Elizabethpol (Elizabethpol), Kutaisi, Stavropol, Tiflis, Black Sea, Erivan - Union republics: Armenian, Georgian, Azerbaijani and others ???
        1. Egoza
          Egoza April 8 2013 19: 32 New
          0
          Quote: Atlon
          The better the Ukrainian SSR than the Kiev province? Or is the Tatar AO better than the Kazan province?

          Yes, the fact of the matter is that they were WORSE! And they had to be developed, literacy introduced, culture boosted, finally, in order to convey to their consciousness the significance of the revolution and what it was made for (and whom the people should support) or do you think that after the revolution, civil war, the Entente attack Russia would have had the strength to resist without the support of the local population, if all these bais, princes, etc. began to lead their little war games?
          1. chehywed
            chehywed April 8 2013 20: 00 New
            +2
            Elena, the imperial provinces were not divided by nat. the borders. Therefore, local separatists did not enjoy the support of the bulk of the population, and therefore the Bolsheviks relatively easily restored the Empire mainly within its former borders.
          2. Atlon
            Atlon April 8 2013 21: 27 New
            +5
            Quote: Egoza
            Yes, the fact of the matter is that they were WORSE

            THAN?!
            Quote: Egoza
            And they had to be developed, to introduce literacy, to enhance culture, finally, in order to convey to their consciousness the significance of the revolution and why it was being made.

            And what, the Kiev or Courland province could not be developed? Or is it called Ukraine, and all right became literate and revolutionary-conscious right away?

            You do not know the reason, but I do ... And the reason is simple: "Divide and conquer!", The national card was played in full.
      2. antiaircrafter
        April 8 2013 19: 15 New
        0
        Quote: Egoza
        Shl. When you add a comment, it is thrown to the beginning of the article. Everybody has this or that I am so "happy"

        It happens. Stop page refresh - push the red cross or Esc.
      3. Yeraz
        Yeraz April 9 2013 13: 24 New
        +1
        Quote: Egoza
        Quote: Atlon
        I believe that the national division of the country is a terrible mistake of the Bolsheviks, which we do not disentangle.

        Let me disagree! At that time it was relevant and necessary for the development of the whole country. But no program can operate for 100 years. You always need to make changes and corrections, improve the program, while you need to do a thorough analysis and think carefully! But this was not done. And there was nobody to do it without I.V. Stalin.
        Shl. When you add a comment, it is thrown to the beginning of the article. Does everyone have this or am I so "happy"? laughing

        And I also, though I'm sitting through the tablet and because of the fast writing on the e-screen with spelling errors, I also sin))
  19. rennim
    rennim April 8 2013 17: 45 New
    0
    As for the current subsidies, I disagree. Now, maybe we are subsidizing smaller republics than in the Soviet Union ... But the oligarchs and officials are very strongly "dated" by the entire people .. and maybe more than in the USSR.
  20. Humpty
    Humpty April 8 2013 18: 21 New
    +2
    National academics, this is the flip side of Soviet domestic politics. They really wanted to show how the shepherd becomes a scientist or statesman. Time will put everything in its place.
  21. Krasnoyarsk
    Krasnoyarsk April 8 2013 18: 37 New
    +6
    CCCP is the most Russophobic state built on the bones of Russians. The national policy in the USSR was a time bomb, as a result of which we got a bunch of wars, where the Russians suffered first of all.
    1. Tverichanka
      Tverichanka April 8 2013 22: 47 New
      +4
      Quote: Krasnoyarets
      National politics in the USSR was a bomb

      And it exploded and buried under itself all the "drukhba of the peoples of the USSR." I will never believe that the big guys in the country's leadership did not understand what was happening and would happen. And therefore the goal was to weaken the USSR as much as possible. A powerful state cannot destroy the price for oil ... By the way, I was always interested in the question - how could our authorities agree in 71 with the refusal of the gold backing of the dollar? After all, the hedgehog understands that this is not profitable for the country, deadly simple, but they agreed ... In my opinion this was the point of no return. Since that time, the collapse of the USSR was already a matter of time. It turns out that after Stalin, each of the leaders contributed to the weakening and decay. IMHO.
  22. ed65b
    ed65b April 8 2013 18: 41 New
    +4
    But now everything fell into place. Each suburb comes into its original state. Someone before someone later, but one end - F
  23. Ruslan_F38
    Ruslan_F38 April 8 2013 18: 42 New
    +5
    Quote: djon3volta
    Quote: Mother Russia
    Russian local population, formerly indigenous, are pressed much more.

    why are you breach, a nonsense? he’s been ... you have been and I’m living here, and all my life, and no one has oppressed me. Have you heard enough of him? am

    So you are blind or just a talker, or even far from reality, well, what is uneducated immediately, who gave you the right to poke a stranger? I have been living in Kazan all my life and I am ashamed of you since you live here, for your incompetence, lack of culture and outright stupidity. I despise Navalny, as well as all the swamp evil spirits.
  24. ImPerts
    ImPerts April 8 2013 18: 50 New
    -1
    In summary.
    Allegedly, the forbidden article lay under the cloth. Whole 30 years, and maybe more. Such a clever article ?!
    I'm on Nevsky in 92-94. I came across such a thing ... I won’t believe that we could not have spread it before.
    And about the higher:
    In our country, most of all graduates of legal and economic issues. And most of the problems in the country are just on these issues. wassat
    But I don’t believe the article ... More precisely, informational reasons or reasons that prompted the appearance of this article and possible burlesque are unpleasant to me.
  25. a jacket
    a jacket April 8 2013 19: 10 New
    +3
    As I remember now, when we asked our head of the department (by the way my beloved student NN Bogolyubov) why there are so many physicists of theorists from Central Asia, he answered us that hell was so bad with him. The main thing is that thanks to them, they develop a layer of intelligentsia, and therefore the nation itself will technically develop. Meaning: they will come out of the Middle Ages to our joy. When is nid. Like, if not during our lifetime. That's what the Communists thought. For centuries!!
  26. swarog57
    swarog57 April 8 2013 19: 31 New
    +5
    All these tendencies in relation to the Russian people persist even now, we do not have a president, we do not have our own territory designated by the constitution. Russian settlements are dying out. For some reason, the "great human rights activists" do not notice this point-blank, and even on the contrary, any association of Russians is immediately recorded in extremist and fascist organizations. It's time to clearly define the status of Russians in the constitution, but for now, all that remains is to listen to the folk songs "Put up a monument to the village on Red Square in Moscow" (type in YouTube).
  27. de klermon
    de klermon April 8 2013 19: 40 New
    +8
    The only way to achieve real equality of peoples is to reject national division within Russia !!! Good justice and equality, when because of the arbitrarily "hacked" "borderland" Russian may be nat. a minority where, apart from them primordially, no one has ever lived !!! And nobody will defend them there, because in all of Russia they are the "oppressive majority"! But let one of the tolerant liberals explain how the "oppressed" Caucasians achieved that in half of the Terek villages only the names remained from Russian !!! It turns out that Russians were crushed there by "tolerance" and "brotherly love" ?!
    1. Ruslan_F38
      Ruslan_F38 April 8 2013 20: 05 New
      +2
      Absolutely right. In general, people need to be determined not by nationality, but by personal qualities, deeds and mental development.
  28. Odysseus
    Odysseus April 8 2013 19: 53 New
    +2
    This "research" is an ordinary anti-Sovietism.
    It will not be superfluous to recall that during the anti-Soviet revolution (1985-1991), the "architects of perestroika" rightly considered the movement of "Russian and Orthodox national revival" to be stupid suckers who can and should be used in the dark.
    A person unable to calculate the consequences for Russia in the event of the liquidation of the Soviet system does not really deserve respect.
    1. str73
      str73 April 8 2013 20: 12 New
      +2
      Odysseus completely agrees with you! With the help of such studies, the USSR was destroyed, and now it is the turn of Russia. The incitement of ethnic hatred within Russia leads to its collapse by analogy with the USSR. And after all, how the bastards came up with: to ruin Russia with the hands of its most zealous patriots, isn’t it a brilliant plan?
    2. Ivan.
      Ivan. April 9 2013 19: 33 New
      -1
      Quote: Odyssey
      This "research" is an ordinary anti-Sovietism.
      It will not be superfluous to recall that during the anti-Soviet revolution (1985-1991), the "architects of perestroika" rightly considered the movement of "Russian and Orthodox national revival" to be stupid suckers who can and should be used in the dark.
      A person unable to calculate the consequences for Russia in the event of the liquidation of the Soviet system does not really deserve respect.



      Research is just research until proven to be a lie.
      Secondly, not an anti-Soviet revolution, but an anti-Russian one (among other things, one should not forget that in the first years the Soviet power was actively supported by the Anglo-Saxons and without the intervention of "intervention" it most likely would not have survived).
      further it is not clear at all what is meant, and at the end "A person who is not able to calculate the consequences for Russia in the event of the liquidation of the Soviet system" - it follows from the article that without correction of the distribution system, the RSFSR (primarily Russians as a "cementing" nation) will degrade in all relations (primarily quantitatively) and then the country will disintegrate by itself because heaps of interethnic contradictions will be exposed. And the Soviet system, like any other, is just a system and, like any other, is imposed on people, by whom and why this is another question.
  29. Nevyatoy
    Nevyatoy April 8 2013 19: 59 New
    +1
    I would like to ask the author of the article how he relates to the first two lines of the USSR anthem that have not changed since 1943.
    Union of the indestructible republics free
    Rallied forever Great Russia.


    Great Russia is always written in the text of the hymn in capital letters. This anthem was taught by children in all republics, and necessarily in Russian.

    PS And now in our time when the USSR is no longer there, it is increasingly often declared proudly that you are a Russian can be perceived by liberalists as nationalism. And the nationality column in the passport of the USSR was !!!
    1. Krasnoyarsk
      Krasnoyarsk April 8 2013 20: 21 New
      0
      The Russians turned around in one place, who was primarily allowed to eat meat? Who was always guilty of all troubles and tribulations? Whom did Trotsky call fuel for the world revolution? Whose speeches crushed as cruelly as possible? Whose lands were handed out to everyone? a bolt in WWII?
      1. Tverichanka
        Tverichanka April 8 2013 22: 58 New
        0
        Quote: Krasnoyarets
        those Russians who are primarily

        I subscribe to your opinion. Although the number of such questions can be increased several times. Yes, what's the point. What is done is done. But for one beaten, two unbeaten they give. If not to be mistaken in the general "friendship".
    2. mansur
      mansur April 9 2013 00: 16 New
      0
      Union of the indestructible republics free
      Rallied forever Great Russia.


      Great Russia is always written in the text of the hymn in capital letters. This anthem was taught by children in all republics, and necessarily in Russian.

      PS And now in our time when the USSR is no longer there, it is increasingly often declared proudly that you are a Russian can be perceived by liberalists as nationalism. And the nationality column in the passport of the USSR was !!! [/ quote]

      In 1943, S.V. Mikhalkov and (Sergey Vladimirovich Mikhalkov) G. A. El-Registan ((real name Gabriel Arshaluysovich (Arkadevich)) Ureklyants (Ureklyan) another version of the words was written, which was approved on December 14, 1943 by a resolution of the Politburo of the Central Committee of the CPSU (b) Personally Stalin
  30. dmb
    dmb April 8 2013 20: 04 New
    +6
    Well, what kind of people are we. On a nearby branch, we gave a fair assessment to an article about the childhood street of each of us. They thanked the man for his kind words and immediately began to remember who, whom and how much should have forgotten already that it was with such articles that the Union began to break up, that they also started yelling in the streets that we would live without Ukraine, Kazakhstan, the Baltic states and Central Asia. And in return we yawned Yeltsin RYL with Abramovich’s tightly. Let's continue in the same vein to the joy of Chubais and Yeshkin the cat.
    1. Semurg
      Semurg April 8 2013 21: 16 New
      +1
      DMB was not in the eyebrow but in the eye. The Soviet Union collapsed, now the EBN was a bit behind Russia, but plans remained. Don’t go through it again, we’ll separate the parasites and live. Moscow has nowhere to retreat, I think it’s relevant today (but give or take or the result will be one end of Russia).
  31. Nevyatoy
    Nevyatoy April 8 2013 20: 19 New
    +3
    I would like to add that the line of the anthem of the USSR "Great Russia rallied forever", nothing more than a hint of the core nation of the USSR. After all, the word Russ gradually began to withdraw from official circulation at the turn of the 15th and 16th centuries, let alone the 19th and 20th centuries.
    And Russia is not only the name of the land, but the name of the Slavic people. Read the new Russian anthem and you won’t get away with a similar allusion to the Russians, to the Slavs. Tolerance is her mother’s mother !!!!!!!
  32. Nevyatoy
    Nevyatoy April 8 2013 20: 27 New
    +1
    Quote: Krasnoyarets
    Whom did Trotsky call fuel for the world revolution?

    I hope that Trotsky did not need to be reminded of how he ended his life?
  33. Kazbek
    Kazbek April 8 2013 20: 58 New
    +3
    They hesitated who cut the land to Kazakhstan. There was no mention of Kazakhs, if you talk like that, then in Taiga there are places where a person’s foot didn’t set foot and Kandaliza was right when she said that it was ridiculous for one country to own such wealth. Who is to blame for the collapse of the USSR and who was not called there. Kazakhstan has not until recently declared independence. As the cat Leopold said, let's live together.
  34. shurup
    shurup April 8 2013 23: 19 New
    0
    The article does not mention the countries of the socialist camp and social orientation, and the emphasis is only on internal problems, moreover, with a clear nationalist inclination. Such articles are not subject to wide publication, but, after the corresponding report, to discussion at a closed plenum of the Central Committee. To do this, you must have the necessary political will, which you yourself know who did not possess, or had other, directly opposite goals.
    At present, we have the extinction of the population of the Baltic states, on the one hand, and the reverse rolling of the Central Asian republics into extreme religious feudalism. I still treat them like compatriots and consider migrant workers economic refugees, and local elites are puppets in their hands.
    The elimination of recipients did not change the situation in Russia. The rate of "one child per family" among the Slavic population remains. The visible increase in the level of education among the same part of the population indicates rather a reluctance to serve in the army than its quality.
    All this speaks of the continued inattention on the part of the top leadership, which may lead to further centrifugal events, but already in Russia, and not in the USSR.
    Century rope not curl.
  35. Nevyatoy
    Nevyatoy April 9 2013 01: 37 New
    +1
    If you take a closer look, the formation of the USSR and the subsequent development is nothing but the gathering of the lands of the Russian Empire. In fact, the USSR also became an empire. In fact, there was no Union of Republics, since there were no republics as such. This is based on the true concept republic, especially during the rule of Stalin, in whose hands was, if not absolute, then the power striving for such. I do not want to offend the citizens of the former "union republics", but the independence of their states in the future will only be formal. If we face the truth, none of the former republics of the USSR (except for Russia) is capable of fully defending its independence. They do not have its actual and weighty guarantor. And for some republics, I think independence is simply contraindicated. Look what the Tajiks were like under the USSR and how they can be seen now. Citizens of an independent state are like slaves who are ready to work for a penny and endure a lot. Isn't that humiliating. Was that how it was under the USSR. Why the hell are they so independent?
  36. anarh
    anarh April 9 2013 01: 57 New
    +1
    Quote: de Klermon
    The only way to achieve real equality of peoples is to reject national division within Russia !!! Good justice and equality, when because of the arbitrarily "hacked" "borderland" Russian may be nat. a minority where, apart from them primordially, no one has ever lived !!! And nobody will defend them there, because in all of Russia they are the "oppressive majority"! But let one of the tolerant liberals explain how the "oppressed" Caucasians achieved that in half of the Terek villages only the names remained from Russian !!! It turns out that Russians were crushed there by "tolerance" and "brotherly love" ?!

    Nationality is needed and important.
    And you need to be aware of yourself as the bearer of national culture.
    But national culture, not lack of culture.
    First, you do not need nationality, then you do not need a surname, then a middle name.
    With patronymic and nationality already a little cope.
    "Mon sher ami, we are here with you Micheli.
    There is no Fatherland here, and there are no patronymics either. "
    I am a native speaker of two languages, Russian and Ukrainian. And two cultures: Russian and Ukrainian. And I try to increase both in myself.
    By the way, Russian and Ukrainian languages ​​are related, but not identical.
    In Ukrainian (for me) it is more convenient to construct phrases short and emotionally intensive, Russian is more convenient for detailed and subtle constructions.
    I repeat: awareness of nationality - awareness of oneself as the bearer of national culture, but not lack of culture.
    Nationalism - building a pedal for spitting, but not building a culture.
  37. Russian knight
    Russian knight April 9 2013 05: 33 New
    +3
    I was born in the USSR, all the fond memories I have from there. School, carefree childhood. And then chaos began under the name of the CIS.
  38. Concept1
    Concept1 April 9 2013 08: 10 New
    0
    [quote = Earthman] [quote = Ragnarek] You take a short piece of history, but even during the Second World War the bulk of the Russian people took over (Ukrainians and Belarusians also belong to the Russian ethnic group. [/ Quote]
    Yes, solid brain srach. it is necessary to manage to call Belarusians and Ukrainians Russian Russians. and they call themselves that? [/ quote
    I’m just explaining to you Ukraine-MaloRussia, BeloRussia and Russia as the Elder, Middle and Younger ZhUZ
    So I hope it is clear .... fool
  39. Kazbek
    Kazbek April 9 2013 08: 21 New
    0
    When you are angry better than the Russian mat is not, it becomes easier.
  40. Alex66
    Alex66 April 9 2013 09: 39 New
    +2
    Gorbachev about Margaret Thatcher: "She managed to solve a lot for her country, but for her own! Often this happened without taking into account the interests of other countries and the world in general. In this I have never supported her, and I do not support her now." I wonder why Russian leaders (parties, countries ...) do not care about their own people, or maybe they are not leaders, maybe they are pawns and the "protocols of the Elders of Zion" are true and not far from the truth. Douglas Reed in "Dispute about Zion". Why did we suddenly start building a Jewish museum? Israel will fall sooner or later, and a new promised land is being prepared on our territory, there is only one obstacle RUSSIAN PEOPLE (Russians, Belarusians, Ukrainians).
  41. Ivan.
    Ivan. April 9 2013 18: 41 New
    +1
    Quote: Atlon
    Quote: Egoza
    Let me disagree! At that time it was relevant and necessary for the development of the whole country.

    I will not let it!
    I wonder what the relevance is? The better the Ukrainian SSR than the Kiev province? Or is the Tatar AO better than the Kazan province? And what is worse than the province: (Baku, Elizabethpol (Elizabethpol), Kutaisi, Stavropol, Tiflis, Black Sea, Erivan - Union republics: Armenian, Georgian, Azerbaijani and others ???


    Before becoming provinces, peoples swore allegiance to the king, after the Zionist revolution, they united on an equal footing as if + many other details. So let it be, let it be. No need to try to remake the past; better try to understand it and not repeat mistakes.
  42. Nevyatoy
    Nevyatoy April 10 2013 00: 18 New
    +1
    Russians have a rich history, but no good films about this story are released now. I won't believe there is no money. It would be better not to give money to Mikhalkov for "Confrontation" (all the same to the wind), but they would shoot a film about the Kulikovo field, or a remake of Alexander Nevsky. Children should learn history not only from textbooks. Already now, Hollywood fictional movie characters are more famous among the younger generation than the real heroes of Russian history.