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Under the "convenient" flag. How the Russian fleet collapsed

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In the late seventies, when I saw a vessel moored in the port, I asked my father, a seasoned sailor, why the ship looked so untidy. “Yes, this is a“ Greek ”, they are always so rusty and dirty,” he heard back. Today a similar question seems inappropriate. Now pretty often the ships, on which our sailors are still daring to sail, look exactly the same.


In the Soviet years, the fleet numbered around 1300 ships in its best times, firmly holding the honorable third place in the world. At that time, our sailors earned much-needed currency for the country, transported goods for the national economy inside the country: delivery by water was and remains the cheapest of all possible types of transportation. In addition, the merchant fleet has always been considered as a mobilization reserve - at “X hour” its ships were to carry military cargo, manpower and equipment. Our sailors were the "face of the country", one of the most highly paid groups of Soviet society. In addition, they always had the opportunity to benefit from the sale of consumer goods “brought from abroad”. They were even considered as a kind of elite. Moreover, representatives of the "elite" in foreign ports went ashore only three times - to look after each other.

Of course, there were disadvantages. At some stage, the crews of the Soviet courts were swollen to such unbelievable proportions that some of the most of the voyage simply hung around. This applied, for example, to electricians, most of whom only needed to replace the blown bulb.

At the same time, today our liberals call allegations about the power of Soviet trade fleet nothing more than a "myth", and all achievements are only the fruit of the "ruthless exploitation of ships and people", saying that "the ugly brainchild of an ugly economy lived in a greenhouse." “Exploitation” does not fit very closely with life in the “greenhouse,” but critics do not bother with logic.

Everything changed dramatically in the late eighties: the sailors decided that they were underpaid, and therefore it is worth only allowing them to work on the ships of foreign companies, how their salaries will grow and “there will be more freedom”.

They were assiduously assured by their foreign colleagues, who sometimes even staged demonstrative strikes, supporting the demands of the Russian seamen for raising their salaries. However, the reality, as always, turned out to be completely not as wonderful as it was seen from afar.

The division of the pie, inherited from Soviet times, has brought many surprises. A rich inheritance in the form of large, subordinate to the Ministry of economic associations - shipping companies was in the hands of several hundred companies. Each of them became the full owner of its “fleet”, sometimes consisting of one or two ships, redeemed from the state at a bargain price. Of course, not all new owners were trying to quickly resell a pretty hot commodity. In most cases, the operation of the ships continued. However, the basic principle of free enterprise - profit maximization - quickly made itself felt. The ships didn’t undergo repairs for a long time, at first it seemed like it was better - already this procedure took too much precious time in Soviet times, sometimes for several months. During this time, it was possible to make several trips abroad and bring a lot of money at that time. But then, when they began to refuse mechanisms, and the ships were turning into old vessels, on which it was simply unsafe to sail, many became thoughtful.

In the old days, merchant ships had their own lifespan - on average, it was 25-30 years. After receiving a new ship, and the old sold, as is customary now to say, "on pins and needles." Now it is impossible to force the majority of shipowners to part with their offspring - there is no money for new ones.

And then there was the collapse of the shipbuilding industry. So the rusty overgrown “samotopes” of the construction of the end of the 1950-s go to sea.
Salary has increased, instead of two hundred dollars that a sailor received in Soviet times, now he is paid several times more, but the general increase in prices quickly leveled the increase. In addition, today it is often necessary to demand what was earned through the court, waiting for a long time for its decision. This “process” began in the nineties, it is still alive today. The state had and still has legal levers in order to force the owners to maintain the floating property they inherited in a relative order, but the owners very quickly found a way out. It is about changing the flag, most often - Liberia, Greece, Panama and Honduras. She tried to attract Russian shipowners and North Korea, but established, in their opinion, too strict rules for those who want to go under her flag.

The reason for the "color change" is elementary. In these countries, the standards for ensuring the safety of navigation are much more liberal than most other members of the world community. And for not very big money you can raise the flag of one of these countries on your ship. Which, in turn, earn decent money for their budget.

This procedure is referred to as the “flag of convenience”. For example, in Panama, for the registration of a ship you need only five documents and only one working day.

At least one of these documents looks strange - you should bring proof that the person who wants to register the vessel is its owner. Certain obligations impose and the need to have a representative in the country. But in return, the shipowner receives “prizes”: the possibility of registering his floating property regardless of age, exemption from all taxes on income received from international maritime trade, and, moreover, as a bonus, and low payroll taxes to the crew. In general, pay money, go to sea - and do what you want. Our liberals put this practice as an example, asserting that this is the way to do business. And in Russia, they say, there are no conditions for this. Let me remind you that according to the provisions of our legislation, only an application for registration of a ship should be considered a month, plus only citizens of Russia can submit it, whereas in Panama there are no such restrictions. As they say, feel the difference.

Apparently, therefore, our largest shipping company, Sovkomflot, prefers to have foreign-built ships, and not under its own flag. Evidence of this is the Anatoly Kolodkin supertanker launched in South Korea in January 2013, attributed to the port of Monrovia - the capital of Liberia, one of the countries trading its flag trade.

Some of the domestic sailors do not see anything wrong in that. In their opinion, it is possible to re-register at least several times a month, depending on which flag it is more convenient to carry out this or that transportation.

But the obvious misfortune is that low security requirements cause a cause of accidents and catastrophes from time to time. It’s not for nothing that when analyzing the causes of incidents at sea, the factor of the “convenient flag” was carried out by Soviet experts into a separate column.

A simple example. Now the expanses of the seas plow a lot of boats, which were originally destined to move only along rivers, or not too far from the sea coast - for their classification the term “river-sea” was adopted. It is clear that the Russian registry did not give permission for their access to the sea. However, the decision is ridiculously simple: in the area of ​​the superstructure the height of the board increases due to the welding of additional sheets. After that, a “flag of convenience” is raised on the ship, and that’s all. And who cares that these “paper boats” due to low precipitation and modest size simply cannot cope with even a little excitement that the captains need every time to make maximum efforts so that the fragile ship will not be stranded even by not too strong wind or over.

All this was vividly demonstrated by the events in the Kerch Strait in the late autumn of 2007. Then, in two days, seven ships went to the bottom at once, all of which were exactly the same river-sea type, most of which were decrepit "old men." Many may argue: they say, such severe weather conditions have not been in the shallow Kerch Strait for a long time. But after all with larger vessels, being then in the same water area, nothing of the kind happened.

One more thing. In Russia, for most enterprises, the issue of wage arrears has long ceased to exist, but this problem remains for the sailors.


A part of the courts is formally owned by foreign companies; they are not interested not only in the working and living conditions of the personnel, they leave their property to the mercy of fate when financial troubles arise.

Well, since they are foreign, they are not accountable to our regulatory authorities. No one will name the exact number of incidents in which our sailors were taken hostage by financial companies.

The following case is typical: on arrival at a foreign port, a Russian crew learns that their ship is under arrest because of the owner’s debts. Often we are talking about the "captivity" lasting several months. In the "totalitarian past," no one could have imagined the detention of a Soviet ship in a foreign port; all the mechanisms, starting from the Foreign Ministry and ending with the special services, would immediately be set in motion. Now, these tricks allow themselves not even very developed states.

The marine business has remained among the few industries in which it is still possible to create whatever pleases. And, formally listed as a Russian citizen, do not bring the slightest benefit to their homeland. I will share my predictions: the current situation will soon attract the attention of the country's leadership. Indeed, in the very “hour X” the old ships will be unsuitable for use as auxiliary fleet.

And shipowners who have a relatively young fleet, but operating under the “convenient flag” will find a thousand and one reasons to avoid executing orders of the country's leadership.

Have a fleet in such a state is not to face a great power. Of course, it is unlikely that it will be possible to recreate the old system of shipping companies that were under strict control of Moscow, but it is possible and necessary to take measures to return at least some of the vessels under the Russian flag. You can and should also introduce legal restrictions on the ownership of foreigners or even Russian citizens permanently residing abroad, the courts of the Russian fleet. For the fleet was and remains a strategically important industry.
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  1. zart_arn
    zart_arn April 1 2013 19: 18
    10
    All this is extremely regrettable. Personally, my parents and myself were associated with the civilian fleet, its operation and maintenance. Alas, the entire fleet has long been seized and the new owners are squeezing everything from it to the last.
    Very few new ships are being built.
    How to organize shipping companies again (read to carry out deprivatization) should say the top leadership of the country.
    1. baltika-18
      baltika-18 April 1 2013 20: 22
      +6
      Quote: zart_arn
      How to organize shipping companies again (read deprivatization) should be said by the country's top leadership

      Yes, we actually have no fleet.
      But there will be no nationalization. Putin said this.
      So the leadership of the merchant fleet does not seem to give a damn. And the coastal infrastructure at Lisin and his ilk.
      1. S_mirnov
        S_mirnov April 1 2013 20: 40
        18
        Incorrect title for the article. It should be like this: How the Soviet fleet has been destroyed and continues to fall apart!
        Our fleet is overwhelmingly Soviet! Russian built horseradish and nichrome. And they ruin it because in our country nifig is not capitalism! The capitalist converts money into capital (means of production, including ships)! And our "effective owners", on the contrary, convert capital (inherited from the USSR) into money, and export money abroad. - This idea is very important, feel and remember it. And in life everything will become clearer.
        1. itkul
          itkul April 1 2013 20: 55
          +2
          Quote: S_mirnov
          Our fleet is overwhelmingly Soviet! Russian built horseradish and nichrome


          You are mistaken, the whole Soviet merchant fleet, with a few exceptions, has already been cut. Here is the list of Novoship ships, mainly a new building

          http://www.novoship.ru/fleet-list.php
        2. Genur
          Genur April 1 2013 22: 59
          +2
          And to figure out who liquidated the BMP fleet ...
          1. Uncle lee
            Uncle lee April 2 2013 05: 28
            +7
            BMP finished off Romanovsky M.A., and who started, I do not know
        3. djon3volta
          djon3volta April 2 2013 03: 56
          0
          S_mirnov for you there is nothing at all, AT ALL !!! if you read your comments, Russia is a desert where only you are Smirnov, oxygen and the Internet with this site, everything, nothing else! the rest is all around it is photoshop and old newsreel.

          listen, for example, you частный the owner of old ships, the question is: who should pay for the new ships for you when ordering, are you or the state ??? pockets or from the budget of the country will pay shipbuilders for a new boat? What smart ayayay, are you? laughing

          Shipyards of Russia

          I bring to your attention a review on the shipyards of Russia. The plants are listed in alphabetical order indicating the current production programs.Small factories for the construction of boats, boats and yachts were not considered in the review.

          http://sdelanounas.ru/blogs/29365/ язнаю что по ссылке ты не пойдёшь как и многие,зато покритиковать вы все мастера.
      2. smel
        smel April 1 2013 21: 02
        +4
        Yes, we don’t actually have a fleet
        I agree!! There is a bunch of old rusty rubbish on the sea. Who can tell where the refrigerated fleet has gone? Bulk..Where are marine seiners? Container trucks .. About the river two words. According to Don already there are carpets from the Turkish Sultan, because it’s time to carry oil. Previously, there was no navigation at that time. All the ships here are from the Ob, Irtysh, etc. All are loaded, and even the devil knows whom they belong to. Ohhh. Will anyone ask those who destroyed our merchant fleet? Unlikely. But the descendants will not forgive us this devastation
      3. zvereok
        zvereok April 1 2013 21: 37
        +2
        Lisin also bought half of the rolling stock of Russian Railways (cargo transportation) several years ago, at a strange auction.
        1. smel
          smel April 1 2013 21: 52
          +2
          Lisin is also half the rolling stock of Russian Railways
          But cheers-patriots do not like my first post: Izh zaminusili. Apparently the truth really hurts your eyes
          1. zvereok
            zvereok April 2 2013 10: 42
            +1
            Don’t you care what minusanuli?
    2. UPStoyan
      UPStoyan April 2 2013 09: 47
      0
      The article is certainly interesting, but the color is clearly thickening. I’ll say as a person who lives in a city where relatives or friends of the merchant marine are in each family. New vessels are launched annually. The average age of the fleet in the same Sovcomflot and Novoship is about 10 years. They are building abroad because it is cheaper and unfortunately of better quality (although the Chinese are doing bad things, but South Korea is at a high level). A flag does not matter. Liberia itself, under the flag of which most of the ships of Novoship and Unicom fly, has no more rights and influence on ships than the Papuans of New Guinea on space exploration.
  2. A. Yaga
    A. Yaga April 1 2013 19: 20
    +5
    To have a fleet in such a state does not suit a great power.


    Russia needs to create a new state fleet. Returning old ships from privatization is futile.
    1. zart_arn
      zart_arn April 1 2013 19: 43
      +8
      Ships are not even half a fleet. It is necessary to return the entire coastal infrastructure: harbors, fairways, mooring walls, cranes, electronic warfare, etc.
      1. S_mirnov
        S_mirnov April 1 2013 20: 42
        +2
        It’s necessary, but the modern government won’t do it, they have already told everyone this in clear text on TV!
        1. zvereok
          zvereok April 1 2013 21: 40
          +3
          Oh sorry, Chavez died. He would have arranged a nationalization here.
        2. zart_arn
          zart_arn April 1 2013 23: 14
          +2
          S_mirnov
          "It must be necessary, but the modern government will not agree to this, it has already been told to everyone in plain text on TV!"
          So why the hell is this power supported with a bang! Power will then be correct when we constantly whip it - they are not gentlemen, but our chosen workers, and this axiom should be in everyone's minds!
          1. djon3volta
            djon3volta April 2 2013 04: 04
            -2
            Quote: zart_arn
            So why the hell is this power supported with a bang!

            Navalny will build ships for you, Udaltsov will restore the army and navy, Chirikov will give everyone the best education in the world, Nemtsov will use space, etc. will hold you laughing
        3. not good
          not good April 1 2013 23: 26
          +1
          Yes, not at these m ... ministers, that's for sure !!!
      2. Uncle lee
        Uncle lee April 2 2013 05: 56
        +7
        And you ask, whose Vanino port is now? The fishing fleet has not been built for 20 years, it is being finalized at loshkomoyki. Trading decreased by five times and also junk. True SakhMP buys used, but very few. The fleet needs to be re-created!
  3. albert
    albert April 1 2013 19: 27
    +6
    Admiral Gorshkov wrote that a country that does not have a large merchant fleet cannot be called a sea power even if it has a powerful Navy.
    1. APOCALIPTIC
      APOCALIPTIC April 1 2013 20: 43
      +3
      Quote: albert
      Admiral Gorshkov wrote that a country that does not have a large merchant fleet cannot be called a sea power even if it has a powerful Navy.


      And yet, powerful Navy, where is it? repeat
      1. zart_arn
        zart_arn April 1 2013 23: 07
        +1
        In order not to be unfounded, look on the Internet for information about icebreakers and vessels of the reinforced ice class, as well as information on the number and quality of the above classes of vessels. Well, it is, "because we are from the north, or something."
  4. Asgard
    Asgard April 1 2013 19: 29
    +9
    Happily I heard, the question is being pushed through so that foreign ships go along internal routes, with foreign crews .....
    There was such a parachute BOP (White Sea Onega) port of Petrozavodsk. About 800 ships, including passengers ..."Mikhailo Lomonosov" and stands and at the mooring wall of the River Station in St. Petersburg and goes on cruises to navigation ....

    So, they made Nelidov the chief and together with the Governor Katanandov the shipping company went bankrupt and broke up..... And ships earned currency in the Republic of Karelia ....
    Katanandov wait Sen........
    By the way, another senator ... his last name Popov (he is famous for drowning a submarine))

    This is the policy of the authorities and as we see encouraged(until now))
    My brother, the captain, works for the Germans ("BRIESE SCHIFFAHRTS & Co GmbH")) the company blooms and buys new ships ....
    What is it like??
    1. itkul
      itkul April 1 2013 19: 47
      +5
      Quote: Asgard
      Happily I heard, the question is being pushed through so that foreign ships go along internal routes, with foreign crews .....


      Yes, you generally have tin in Karelia
      quote

      In the Karelian city of Kondopoga, another ethnic conflict is brewing. This time, “tied up” to the problem of employment of local residents, perhaps the most acute in this small 32-thousandth town.

      So, the leaders of this construction company, having received an order, decided to attract migrants to work in Petrozavodsk and Kondopoga. According to preliminary data, about a thousand people “wrote out”. Most of them, as the “SP” correspondent was told in the administration of Petrozavodsk, “not our former ones from the CIS, do not worry, we try not to have business with those, but workers from Turkey”.


      http://svpressa.ru/society/article/65941/
      1. zart_arn
        zart_arn April 1 2013 19: 52
        +3
        Kondopozhans know how and how to answer Akbarites.
      2. krasin
        krasin April 1 2013 20: 58
        +1
        One of my friends in the 42nd _ one match burned two villages. !!! Did you get any matches in the general store ??.
      3. zvereok
        zvereok April 1 2013 21: 48
        +3
        Usually, if they say that the Turks, then they bring the Turks, which are gradually diluted by the Tajiks.
  5. Octavian avgust
    Octavian avgust April 1 2013 20: 17
    +3
    It is necessary to nationalize the elite and capital! And so that the ships did not work like in Cyprus.
  6. APASUS
    APASUS April 1 2013 20: 23
    +3
    Ours switched to .......... "money at any cost" and still live like that !! They want to eat and do nothing !!
    In Kirkenes Norway, to complete all formalities with border guards, a fisherman needs 2 hours !! And in Russia, maybe two days is not enough, everyone wants money sitting in a leather chair !!
    1. Tersky
      Tersky April 1 2013 20: 50
      14
      Quote: APASUS
      Ours switched to .......... "money at any cost" and still live like that !! They want to eat and do nothing !!
      article quote
      In Soviet times, the fleet numbered at its best times about 1300 ships, firmly holding an honorable third place in the world. Our sailors then earned the currency so necessary for the country, transported goods for the national economy within the country: shipping by water was and remains the cheapest of all possible modes of transportation. In addition, the merchant fleet has always been considered as a mobilization reserve - in the “X-hour”, its ships were to carry military cargo, manpower and equipment. Our sailors were the “face of the country,” one of the highest paid groups in Soviet society.
      and here’s the conclusion -
      1. Alx1miK
        Alx1miK April 2 2013 00: 26
        +3
        I agree, hooked.
  7. Seaman
    Seaman April 1 2013 20: 28
    +1
    Yeah, you rarely see a ship with a Russian flag on a pipe in the seas. It is a pity very and regrettably.
    1. APOCALIPTIC
      APOCALIPTIC April 1 2013 20: 47
      -5
      Quote: Seaman
      Yeah, you rarely see a ship with a Russian flag on a pipe in the seas. It is a pity very and regrettably.


      with the Russian flag uncomfortable to carry weapons to Syria
      1. Black
        Black April 1 2013 21: 09
        +4
        Quote: APOCALIPTIC
        with the Russian flag uncomfortable to carry weapons to Syria

        But you and your EVERYTHING are comfortable !!! Look, you’ve brought so much democracy to Libya, to Egypt, the Arabs will disentangle them for another 50 years!
        1. Apollo
          Apollo April 1 2013 21: 12
          +5
          Quote: Chen
          But you and your EVERYTHING are comfortable !!! Look, you’ve brought so much democracy to Libya, to Egypt, the Arabs will disentangle them for another 50 years!


          regarding so-called democracy, in American
  8. Azaat
    Azaat April 1 2013 20: 30
    +1
    Wassermann watched about the building of the Black Sea Shipping Company, such a feeling, under Kravchenko all the ships of the Square were sold.
  9. Tabula Rasa
    Tabula Rasa April 1 2013 20: 42
    0
    Sorry, but the article is nonsense.
    In addition, they always had the opportunity to benefit from the sale of consumer goods brought from abroad
    This was called smuggling, and they could have put in prison for it (although everyone was, as always, ***)
    The reason for the "color change" is elementary. In these countries, safety standards for navigation are much more liberal.
    Complete idiocy, the author is clearly far from the merchant fleet, taxes yes - less, maritime safety for all ships is regulated by international documents (SOLAS, MARPOL, etc.), even for Panama, even for Russia they are the same. The legislation of a country may be more or less strict than international treaties, but this does not exempt them.
    1. Igarr
      Igarr April 1 2013 21: 06
      +7
      Are you a sailor - Tabula Rasa?
      Where did you see the ravings?
      Where did you see the contraband - in three rolls of, say, "lurex" - brought "as gifts for the family"?
      Safety at sea ... and ... releasing a ship at sea - these are, after all, various procedures.
      Only in taxes are you right.
      ..
      Graduate of the Kaliningrad Higher Marine Engineering College, 1981 year.
      All four oceans.
      1. Tabula Rasa
        Tabula Rasa April 1 2013 21: 35
        0
        Where did you see the contraband - in three rolls of, say, "lurex" - brought "as gifts for the family"?
        Excuse me, are you selling these rolls to your family? The quote is written about the benefits of the sold consumer goods.
        I did not write a word about the release of the ship into the sea. What does portstate control have to do with it? Tell me how a cheap flag will free you from solas? Read again the quote from the article- ". In these states, the standards for ensuring the safety of navigation are much more liberal."
    2. shpuntik
      shpuntik April 1 2013 22: 55
      +3
      The point of the article is that out of 1300 ships, nothing at all remains, "lurex" and trinkets are tertiary. It's about theft on a national scale. With regard to international conventions, the USSR basically complied with them and was an example for many (a ban on whaling, bottom trawling, etc.). I'm not even talking about the Maritime Register of the USSR, which was on a par with Lloyd's. If you were flying under the flag of the USSR, then the Samali pirates (if they were at that time) would have shied away from you like victims :-)
  10. Hius-124
    Hius-124 April 1 2013 20: 54
    +2
    Crying ......................................... I am waiting for the executions !!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! crying angry
  11. krasin
    krasin April 1 2013 20: 54
    +2
    The government has nothing to do with it ?! They simply have no time. Now the MAD will privatize, and they will not be able to do everything for us and Russia. Holding and packing suitcases. How not to forget something.
  12. redwar6
    redwar6 April 1 2013 21: 08
    0
    Ruined one of his allies ..
  13. Borninussr
    Borninussr April 1 2013 21: 20
    +5
    I will support the author in the fact that before, not a single state in the world could even have thought of detaining citizens of the Soviet Union. For it really was fraught. They captured, for example, Somali pirates ship under the flag of the USSR, and in the morning all the pioneers woke up.
    And now there is no respect for this so-called. "tricolor".
    1. Volkhov
      Volkhov April 2 2013 00: 49
      +1
      Negroes captured Soviet ships by stupidity, first demanded SU-22, but the Union didn’t care, the Negroes were afraid of nuclear submarines in vain, then the hostage managers exchanged cereals from the stocks of the fishing fleet.
  14. harrymur
    harrymur April 1 2013 21: 34
    +2
    it’s not a matter of convenient flags and blah blah blah, all the traitors have collapsed, the matter is in our purely Russian understanding of the maritime business, for us an ebte cosmonaut, with all the consequences,
    there is such an organization under the UN-IMO, it regulates the relations of all parties in the sea, under its auspices a convention was adopted to protect human life on the sea-solas, our peasant mulchers in the government took and signed it, fools are worthless, thereby imposing huge costs on shipowners, like we are mods like all-duoorny, this could not be done, all the more so by giving our port capitals the right to implement these conventions on the spot themselves, as a result, why the hell is this homeland that hates its sailor, and is trying to rob and hang it as many hangers-on as possible on a sailor
    our ports are not the most friendly towards sailors, especially to compatriots
    then the customs authorities introduced a 30% tax on modernization after the cardon, generally stupid people are over, the norgs are called our rulers, PEASANTS,
    this tax immediately withdrew from the flag of all shipowners afflicted with maritime affairs
    it’s especially a pity to the fishermen on whom the solas was hung, which does not apply to them under the cardon according to the preamble,
    in Russia we rule the sea-peasants
  15. Krapovy32
    Krapovy32 April 1 2013 22: 15
    +3
    Quote: S_mirnov
    Incorrect title for the article. It should be like this: How the Soviet fleet has been destroyed and continues to fall apart!
    Our fleet is overwhelmingly Soviet! Russian built horseradish and nichrome. And they ruin it because in our country nifig is not capitalism! The capitalist converts money into capital (means of production, including ships)! And our "effective owners", on the contrary, convert capital (inherited from the USSR) into money, and export money abroad. - This idea is very important, feel and remember it. And in life everything will become clearer.



    At stake would put such owners. After all, they came to everything ready, somewhere they squeezed it out or took it by force. But this fleet was built by generations of Soviet people. Not for some uncles with big wallets, but for the Motherland. In these courts of life, fate and hard work.
  16. darksoul
    darksoul April 1 2013 22: 26
    +1
    Quote: Speckled32
    To stake such owners

    Everything will be with us .... if we look at the history of Russia we are only at war ... the Tatars, the Mongols, Swedes, Germans, Poles, the Principality of Lithuania, the French, the English ... the troubles ... riots ... revolutions ... all survived ... became only stronger and deal with uncles with a wallet ... neither they are the first nor they are the last
  17. vadson
    vadson April 1 2013 22: 37
    -1
    not really in the subject BUT not at all freaks who raped from a defense station a point of iron they themselves loot
    http://moment-istini.ru/news/newsrus/1765.html
  18. ia-ai00
    ia-ai00 April 1 2013 22: 48
    +2
    They have plundered their own country ... and continue to plunder, as if they can take it with them to TOT LIGHT ...
  19. shpuntik
    shpuntik April 1 2013 23: 08
    +3
    Sailors, fishermen in the 90s suffered greatly. They also sold good "steamers" for nails to China. All the bronze screws, valves, all the "flower garden" went over the hillock. This was no coincidence: first, a law was passed on the collection of scrap metal and its export abroad. In one organization, out of 128 vessels by 2005, about 40 remained. General Director Abramov (that was his name :-)) delayed the voyage from 6 to 8 months. Then he threw the Americans with leasing, so they began to study this scheme at the university (Seattle). There were "merry" times! I was once told in Vladivostok: ".. so you don’t know? The sailor is the first sucker!" Reluctantly, but I had to agree ... :-)
  20. rainufa
    rainufa April 1 2013 23: 57
    0
    This whole privatization was the work of 10000 advisers sent to the new Russia from the United States in the 90s to help the EBN build democracy and the economy, and if the USSR followed the Chinese development path, we would be the first in everything ...
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    this one is generally judas.
  21. rainufa
    rainufa April 2 2013 00: 00
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    We say together thanks to our "beloved" Judas


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    And to him for 10000 American advisers who introduced democracy and capitalization and, as a result, caused damage to our homeland more than we lost in the Great Patriotic War. am
    1. APASUS
      APASUS April 2 2013 18: 37
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      Quote: rainufa
      We say together thanks to our "beloved" Judas

      This one too!
  22. zgenia44
    zgenia44 April 2 2013 00: 30
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    How can nothing be built? The civilian sector and army fleet are being built on the sly
    Army and Navy -> http://www.sdelanounas.ru/blogs/?id=69
    Shipbuilding -> http://www.sdelanounas.ru/blogs/?id=135
    1. djon3volta
      djon3volta April 2 2013 04: 20
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      some commentators hate this site because there positive news, and they like to read negative news and articles, they drag themselves from this apparently from bad news laughing
  23. Argon
    Argon April 2 2013 02: 00
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    A lot of emotions, an article about painful things, I decided to write a little after catching my breath. I completely agree with the author, the practice of the "Convenient Flag" is extremely harmful not only for the commercial fleet of Russia, but also for shipping in general. The funds for the maintenance of the entire infrastructure of waterways, as well as the ports of the Ministry of Speech and Navy, earned themselves, but let's say the construction of a new port, the purchase of ships for some new shipping company was a matter of the state. At the beginning of the nineties, everyone decided to privatize, and they began not even with the appropriation of the production facilities, but with the destruction of the transport and cargo handling system itself - ports, fleet, electronic warfare - all separately. Nowadays, the relationship between them is like neighbors in a communal apartment. The current owners think little about maintaining a certain level of production, the main thing is profit. And the life of the sailors, what a trifle, there are so many sailors released every year, we will recruit new ones. After all, in the Kerch Strait, everyone knew the question was 2,2-3 tons of fuel and payment of port dues for the "Sosovsky" call to the port of Kavkaz. The issue is decided by the shipowner not as the captain of the ship. But the verdict of the state commission is eloquent - the captains of the Avar ships did not correctly assess the situation. That the ship owner may be guilty, read the entrepreneur - the hope and support of the "new Russia" we learned after "Bulgaria". But even here it was not without the fault of the crew. Here explanations are needed, the fact is that this trough was ejected for solving transport problems - transporting people, and at the time of the disaster it was used as a cruise. passenger spaces in such cases, as a rule, the ship becomes unstable and on sea ships the issue is solved by dead ballast, those by the amount of seawater that cannot be removed by standard means and serves as a counterweight. On a river ship, this issue cannot be resolved because ballast increases draft. Differentiation of consumable masses at the beginning of the voyage is counterbalanced by the fuel at the end of the wastewater. Any unaccounted for by the more than necessary supply of fuel. In Soviet times it was not a problem to take an extra 20 tons. When working in market conditions, it was not straight outboard. Fuel is expensive and passive in circulation. At the time of the voyage, instead of 20 tons of fuel, 15 tons of which the stabilization balance is NZ on board 4800 kg. The shipowner was aware. The ability of the vessel to return to its original position after the cessation of external forces on it - stability, decreased critically. As a result of a gust of wind and excitement "Bulgaria" just capsized. The Starpoma's fault did not organize the evacuation of passengers. There are a lot of all kinds of regulatory documents, manuals, instructions in the fleet. But I don’t know of one that would describe the organization of leaving the ship in case of its sudden capsizing. By the way, the construction of ships with this type of stability has been prohibited since 1975 and operation since 1983, if I'm not mistaken.
    Another representative of this type is the Moskvich river tram. So I'm all for what? To the position of the state, if the sailors themselves are to blame for everything, well, what have some "Free flags" to do with it. The question arises, what will happen? I think you need to look at the root, in our case upward. For those who are interested, dig the story with a series of container ships tn "Senators" for the Baltic Shipping Company.












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