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Analytical program "However" with Mikhail Leontiev 28 March 2013

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Saving Cyprus is exactly the old joke: "Yesterday, he saved a girl from rape. - It can not be! How? - He persuaded." Group salvation. A group of civilized Europeans, led by Germany.

As you know, the plan provides for the freezing of deposits forced large depositors (more 100 thousand euros) in two major Cypriot banks. In fact confiscation. What is the condition of 10-billion dollar aid from the European Union.

Right now, the miraculously saved Cypriot banks open exactly to die in agony. Keep money in Cyprus can now only crazy. Banks work with other people's money. Credit is trust, it is generally synonymous. What kind of trust here? And what a loan? From the point of view of the elementary logic of the current system, that is, capitalism, confiscation is worse than default, that is, bankruptcy. The Europeans organized Cyprus Harakiri. And there is an idea to make it serial.

“The Cyprus bank rescue scheme at the expense of private investors will become a model for future aid packages within the eurozone,” said Dutch Finance Minister, Eurogroup President Jeroen Deisselblum.

Potential recipients of desired packages like the Spaniards and Italians immediately rushed to refute and reassure. Therefore, such statements are enough to bring down the entire banking system. In fact, there is still a reason to consider the Cyprus model as exclusive so far. For what Cyprus has received such an honor.

Well, firstly, because it’s small: it’s easier to save the little ones, especially by the group. Cyprus has to some extent become a victim of its financial redundancy. And, of course, very heavily invested in his mother Greece. And when European leaders wrote off Greek debt, the Cypriot banks were in the worst position. That is, Greece corrupted everything, but to respond to little Cyprus. And, finally, Cyprus was remembered by Russian offshore companies.

The defeat of Cypriot banks is the price that Cyprus pays for its presence in the European Union and the eurozone. On the other hand, Cyprus forcibly no one there pulled. Cypriots saw in the European integration primarily a political roof. The roof was not political, but ... Well, in general, you can see what. A useful lesson here is that the European Union is not a union. Tambov wolf you ally. This is the first.

And the second ... The precedent of confiscating money, and with such a Russian accent, raises the most serious question about the method of placing funds of our state reserves. That very minfinova kubyshki. For a rainy day.
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  1. GELEZNII_KAPUT
    GELEZNII_KAPUT 29 March 2013 12: 28 New
    +9
    Hmm, it seems to me that we already did this in the early nineties, only then inflation would gobble up all the deposits, and then they are just honestly taken away !!! Beauties !!! bully good
    1. alexng
      alexng 29 March 2013 12: 39 New
      22
      European expropriation of expropriators. hi Oh! In Eurogean. P ... races in one word and both.
      1. GELEZNII_KAPUT
        GELEZNII_KAPUT 29 March 2013 12: 59 New
        25
        Quote: alexneg
        European expropriation of expropriators. hi Oh! In Eurogean. P ... races in one word and both.

        Absolutely in the hole! Then a friend of mine said after visiting relatives in Germany: How will they fight with us? !! there 30% of Russians, 30% of Turks and 30% of Germans are pensioners, and 10% of pede ... tolerasts !!! laughing
        1. lelikas
          lelikas 29 March 2013 14: 01 New
          12
          Quote: GELEZNII_KAPUT
          there 30% of Russians, 30% of Turks and 30% of Germans are pensioners, and 10% of pede ... tolerasts !!!
          - Cool phrase! But in the context - if you change the Turks and Germans to Tajiks and others - you get exactly what I see every day on the street ....
          In the event of a war, a tie will come out — for the first time, 30 progenitors will trivially swell for a meeting — the rest will begin to discuss the features of national cleaning, repair, etc.
          1. skeptic
            skeptic 29 March 2013 17: 10 New
            +8
            The precedent of confiscation of money, and even with such a Russian accent, raises the most serious question about how to allocate funds from our state reserves. That same minfinovskoy egg capsule. For a rainy day.

            A very old, but effective option: "Keep money at Sberbank" at home or invest in your industry.
            1. S_mirnov
              S_mirnov 29 March 2013 21: 31 New
              0
              "or invest in your industry." This is not a very smart decision, with open borders and a freely convertible ruble, investing in the Russian economy is very risky, easier in Venezuelan wells, for example.
              This is substantiated in detail in A. Parshev’s book “Why Russia Is Not America” I highly recommend reading.
            2. Defender
              Defender 30 March 2013 01: 18 New
              +1
              My wife and I rested in Cyprus in the summer, so she started: "let's take a mortgage in Cyprus." Now finally stalled fellow
          2. Bashkaus
            Bashkaus 29 March 2013 18: 00 New
            +6
            Well, I wouldn’t be in a hurry to make statements about the draw, there are still 10% of the cocks in the German team and our hard guys from Chelyabinsk;) I suspect that here the climax of the battle just wakes up)))
            1. Quiet
              Quiet 30 March 2013 16: 28 New
              0
              there remains another 10% of cocks in the German team and our hard guys from Chelyabinsk laughing lol


              The victory does not shine for the Germans !!!! The guys from Chelyabinsk are so severe that they use barbed wire instead of a washcloth, and emery instead of toilet paper !!!!! bully .... Well then they will invite nemchuru to the bathhouse ..... belay
      2. VAF
        VAF 29 March 2013 13: 24 New
        10
        Quote: alexneg
        Oh! In Eurogean. P ... races in one word and both.


        Alexander good +! drinks

        And according to the article .... I ambiguously relate to the articles of Mr. Leontyev, but in this case ... FOR 100% good

        Especially CONCLUSIONS good

        And the second point of them at all .. SONG !!! fellow
        1. alexng
          alexng 29 March 2013 15: 12 New
          +6
          Sergey, hello! hi

          Here's a joke caught in the subject:
          - I am proud of two great people - Gagarin and Newton. One tried to escape from this planet, and the second proved that the first will not work.

          So it turns out that they are not going anywhere from the submarine. And, in addition, they achieved an unexpected result, that everything that the overwhelming swindler had earned was not in the yard. But, no matter how much they were warned about the danger, it all came out trivial and very simple: due to the moronism of some, the jackpot went to some gluttonous gloomy man with an unconventional orientation. And it was necessary just to keep the whole money in Russia and then in three-liter banks.
          1. Gregazov
            Gregazov 29 March 2013 18: 40 New
            +5
            Watch the old Soviet film "12 chairs". A similar end to Ostap Bender on the Romanian border.
      3. Sirocco
        Sirocco 30 March 2013 17: 11 New
        +1
        This situation reminds me of the Field of Miracles in the country of fools. Angela Merkel - fox Alice, the rest - cat Basilio laughing
    2. vilenich
      vilenich 29 March 2013 13: 08 New
      +7
      Quote: GELEZNII_KAPUT
      all deposits gobbled up by inflation, and here they are simply honestly selected !!! Beauties !!

      I am not an expert in international law, but it’s interesting, but how such a decision is consistent with generally accepted norms of laws. After all, this is simply a robbery!
      1. alexng
        alexng 29 March 2013 14: 54 New
        +7
        Quote: vilenich
        After all, this is simply a robbery!


        They have robbery not only in this, but in all directions, especially among those who are not members of their elite. But Ukraine itself climbs into the trap, and voluntarily. The mind is not shy. Probably some of those in power have completely clogged their brains and slightly froze in the cold.
        1. vilenich
          vilenich 29 March 2013 15: 48 New
          +2
          Quote: alexneg
          But Ukraine itself climbs into the trap, and voluntarily

          The saddest thing is that not only Ukraine was noted there, the Russian Federation, I think, is in no way inferior in terms of the size of deposits in Cyprus banks, although according to rumors, the British seem to have the biggest losses!
          1. skeptic
            skeptic 29 March 2013 17: 14 New
            +1
            Quote: vilenich
            although according to rumors, the Britons seem to have the biggest losses!


            But this is unlikely. Most likely, this story began, after they left.
      2. svp67
        svp67 29 March 2013 16: 07 New
        +3
        And what do you think, it’s only with us, "the law that drew where and it turned out and left ..."
      3. smile
        smile 29 March 2013 17: 14 New
        +8
        vilenich
        And sho tse take - international law? Could it be these good wishes set forth on a piece of paper that can be used only by one whose club allows you to kill and rob, to justify the usual process? Was it not by this very right that Yugoslavia, Iraq, Libya and other countries were slaughtered, appropriated their state assets, resources and funds held in private accounts? And nothing, the world did not crack. International law has finally turned into the law of the jungle ... and in general, no law, a court decision is impossible without the force that forces them to be executed ... and where are such forces? Where are the bailiffs? :))) Now, the world community has finally turned into a gang of fraternists solving issues on concepts ... yes, in fact, it never really came out of this state ...... here it is - international, with permission say right ...
      4. Dilshat
        Dilshat 29 March 2013 21: 09 New
        0
        Don Carleone — one lawyer costs more than 100 “soldiers.” So roughly he said.
    3. vezunchik
      vezunchik 29 March 2013 13: 29 New
      +9
      Both come and go .. But the good news is that anti-advisers such as Leontyev and Zadornov began to understand what kind of crap they cooked ...Ilyich and Stalin were far-sighted and smart people - “What threatens us with the right deviation if he wins our party? This will be the ideological defeat of our party, the unleashing of capitalist elements, the growth of chances for the restoration of capitalism or, as Lenin said, a "return to capitalism." (Stalin I.V. Works. T. 11.P. 270).
      And what is a "market"? 2% over the rich, 20 terms of class, and the rest - Bosatva, no matter how they puffed ....
      1. Норд
        Норд 29 March 2013 14: 52 New
        +9
        Quote: "The scheme to save banks of Cyprus at the expense of private investors will become a model for future aid packages within the eurozone."

        Bravo to the Minister of Finance of the Netherlands. He discovered a new way to extinguish fires by filling fires with gasoline. I would like to look at the idiots who, after such feints with their ears, will keep deposits in geyropeyskie banks.
        Lord, protect us from the Western "civilization" ...
        1. Dilshat
          Dilshat 29 March 2013 21: 13 New
          +2
          Here we had Minister Kudrin. He strove to invest financial resources in American "securities".
      2. mda
        mda 29 March 2013 16: 22 New
        +1
        Quote: vezunchik
        And what is a "market"? 2% over the rich, 20 terms of class, and the rest - Bosatva, no matter how they puffed ....

        So that’s why the US has the most open market because there are only 1% over the rich and 10% over the middle class
    4. LaGlobal
      LaGlobal 29 March 2013 14: 59 New
      +1
      Greetings! As said, comrade D.A. Medvedev: "They steal the loot" ...
    5. Geisenberg
      Geisenberg 29 March 2013 18: 19 New
      +1
      What can be honest when someone else is stealing money under the pretext of integration. It’s like in a joke - “I can, I saw Lenin”
    6. Patriot.ru.
      Patriot.ru. 29 March 2013 20: 32 New
      0
      We had inflation. And they cannot afford it. They have a foreign currency
    7. S_mirnov
      S_mirnov 29 March 2013 21: 44 New
      -1
      "Hmm, it seems to me that we already did this in the early nineties, only then inflation would gobble up all the deposits, and then they are just honestly taken away !!"
      I simply admire how Cyprus, or rather the IMF, solves its financial problems at the expense of domestic thieves and oligarchs! But I am outraged that this money was stolen personally from you and me (from Russian citizens) and now the IMF is disposing of it! Well, Russia would have confiscated this money from thieves, even so for the good of the motherland, because no! Our gaulaytory liquid managed and even afraid to utter a scream! Note that there are no reciprocal moves like Dima Yakovlev’s law when you are taken by the balls!
      1. 755962
        755962 30 March 2013 00: 23 New
        0
        Events in Cyprus provoked an unprecedented outflow of capital from Russia - almost $ 290 million per week
        Investors continue to sell off Russian stocks. During the week of March 21–27, capital outflows from funds investing in Russia reached nearly $ 290 million. Investment funds lost 235 million dollars, another 54 million dollars left the Russian Federation through global funds of emerging markets. This is the largest loss at the country level, as well as for Russia itself since September 2011, economists explain.

        http://www.newsru.com/finance/29mar2013/superottok290.html



        I think this is just the beginning of the Big Game ...
  2. elmi
    elmi 29 March 2013 12: 31 New
    +7
    From now on, a lesson will serve our bureaucrats where to keep money, but anyway it’s a shame that Europe once again “spat” into Russia by expropriating as many 80% of deposits. Russia also needs something to answer.
    1. DimychAs
      DimychAs 29 March 2013 12: 36 New
      +5
      Quote: elmi
      From now on, a lesson will serve our bureaucrats where to keep money, but anyway it’s a shame that Europe once again “spat” into Russia by expropriating as many 80% of deposits. Russia also needs something to answer.

      That's it, but it’s bad that we learn all the time from our mistakes, and not from strangers.
    2. Atlon
      Atlon 29 March 2013 12: 50 New
      18
      Quote: elmi
      but still it’s a shame that Europe once again “spat” in Russia

      Don’t wail! All this tramp, the work of Putin. And it’s only to our advantage, remember! wink
      1. Bosk
        Bosk 29 March 2013 13: 05 New
        +4
        I would not even be surprised that all this bums really went with the supply of GDP.
        1. smile
          smile 29 March 2013 17: 19 New
          +3
          Bosk (2
          I doubt it, do you really think that Pu is so omnipotent that he easily influences the decision of the European Union ... money, of course, is a pity ... but it will definitely benefit us - maybe just out of greed and common sense part of the withdrawn funds will return to Russia ..
          1. Egoza
            Egoza 29 March 2013 18: 03 New
            +4
            Or maybe finally return to a deep study of the works of Marx-Lenin-Stalin? Good thoughts, they expressed, however! laughing
            1. smile
              smile 29 March 2013 19: 11 New
              +2
              Egoza
              In principle, normal professional economists have never forgotten about them .. it is necessary to study various theories without going to extremes. this can avoid many mistakes made by neighbors :)))))
            2. Patriot.ru.
              Patriot.ru. 29 March 2013 20: 48 New
              0
              From each according to his ability to each according to his needs-COMMUNISM. From each according to his ability to each according to his work-SOCIALISM
        2. wax
          wax 29 March 2013 19: 32 New
          +6
          GDP flew by plane and through a closed communication channel ordered Merkel to open a bagged bag in the upper right drawer of her desk.
          1. avensis
            avensis 30 March 2013 05: 47 New
            0
            The power of the Darkest has grown even more. Darth Vader Damn ... laughing
      2. Ghenxnumx
        Ghenxnumx 29 March 2013 14: 32 New
        +4
        Quote: Atlon
        All this tramp, the work of Putin. And it’s only to our advantage, remember!

        In principle, this is possible, especially in the light of his statements to NG about the return of capital for the benefit of the state. smile
        1. slvevg
          slvevg 29 March 2013 16: 04 New
          +1
          By the way, the thought of Putin came to me first as soon as I heard about Cyprus, I think a good lesson for all oligarchs from the CIS.
      3. Andrey_K
        Andrey_K 29 March 2013 14: 45 New
        +3
        By the way, about the benefits, I read about one spicy nuance of this "confiscation".
        It turns out that the "deceived investors" will receive compensation in the shares of the Bank of Cyprus and become its shareholders.
        Those. it is entirely possible that these shareholders will have at their disposal Cypriot banks (well, or the largest) and the opportunity not to report to anyone at all for bills and transactions.
        Those. account holders receive a bank in their property for personal use that is not accountable to anyone.
        Yes, even with the image of the offended and the oppressed.
        In light of the fact that all over the world the persecution of tax evaders is intensifying and national governments are crushing all world banks, such a "safe haven" has long been lacking not only for Russian deviators, but also for Germans.
        Even Switzerland has already become less reliable.
        It would not have turned out that those same investors themselves were not against this scam.
        But now, in general, no one will be able to get any information about accounts from Cyprus banks at all - before that, the state could force them.
        1. avensis
          avensis 30 March 2013 05: 54 New
          0
          "By the way, about the gain,"
          I don’t think they should be especially happy about this. The price of 3 banks with shares which seem to be going to compensate for the withdrawn money, in the amount of 1,5-2 billion euros. While the amount of 4-5-6 billion that was stolen from investors I don’t remember exactly. (And keep in mind that after these events they will give a couple of dollars in strength for their shares on the market) This time
          After such an expropriation, the likelihood that someone will carry money to these banks will tend to zero at the speed of light. These are two
          1. Andrey_K
            Andrey_K April 1 2013 13: 48 New
            0
            There are many who can "carry the money."
            There are no ordinary investors, but those who want to launder money ... the world market for the need for such a service does not even know how to evaluate.
            Here we add the possibility of cheap transactions and withdrawals.
            Recall only underground banks ...
      4. Patriot.ru.
        Patriot.ru. 29 March 2013 20: 41 New
        +2
        Putin somewhere in 2002 told the oligarchs, keep the money at home otherwise it comes around ........
        1. Atlon
          Atlon 29 March 2013 21: 49 New
          +4
          Quote: Patriot.ru.
          Putin somewhere in 2002 told the oligarchs, keep the money at home otherwise it comes around ........

          "You will excuse me for directness ... Then you are tormented to swallow dust to return money from there!" (V.V. Putin 2002)
          1. avensis
            avensis 30 March 2013 05: 56 New
            +1
            Furious - the reincarnation of Wang and most likely the son of V. Messing. He foresaw the collapse of Cyprus 10 years ago laughing
    3. vilenich
      vilenich 29 March 2013 13: 10 New
      +5
      Quote: elmi
      Russia also needs something to answer.

      Perhaps it would be possible to place loan bonds in the West for a furious amount with breathtaking profitability, and then say that they were joking? repeat
      1. elmi
        elmi 29 March 2013 13: 30 New
        +7
        Quote: vilenich
        Perhaps it would be possible to place loan bonds in the West for a furious amount with breathtaking profitability, and then say that they were joking?

        And you can still recognize the heiress of the Romanov dynasty Empress Maria Vladimirovna and demand royal gold wink
    4. Dilshat
      Dilshat 29 March 2013 21: 16 New
      +1
      Unfortunately, there is not only the money of officials, but also state money.
      1. vilenich
        vilenich 30 March 2013 07: 53 New
        0
        Quote: Dilshat
        Unfortunately, there is not only the money of officials, but also state money.

        And what are the state doing there, do they have no better use than lying in a bank in Cyprus?
  3. Semurg
    Semurg 29 March 2013 12: 31 New
    +4
    The strong is always to blame for the weak, yesterday there was an infa that Kazakhstani lost euro in Cyprus under the lard. Yes, and our little egg also lies somewhere in the west, no matter how they start to solve their problems at someone else’s expense when they squeeze them hard.
  4. treskoed
    treskoed 29 March 2013 12: 32 New
    0
    [quote] [/ quotPrecedent of confiscation of money, and even with such a Russian accent, raises the most serious question about how to allocate funds from our state reserves. That same minfinovskoy egg capsule. For a rainy day.
    e] Can’t be more clear! And for the Ministry of Finance, "all God's dew ..."
  5. Vadivak
    Vadivak 29 March 2013 12: 33 New
    +6
    Quote: GELEZNII_KAPUT
    only then did all the deposits gobble up inflation


    It’s such a term then they covered the robbery of the population, and here yes, just beauty,
  6. zao74
    zao74 29 March 2013 12: 34 New
    +1
    Well, maybe our nouveau riche will return everything stolen from the people to the country ... and we will subsequently confiscate the loot.
  7. FED
    FED 29 March 2013 12: 34 New
    +5
    In this situation with Cyprus, they wanted to throw Russia at the headstock, and the Minister of Finance went to us in Cyprus, and the Germans provoked such as Cyprus should resolve all issues with the European Union, and not with Russia. We thought now that Russia will show its imperial ambitions and go to Germany’s quarrel and give money to Cyprus, they hoped it didn’t work)))))) They got angry and made 80% of the deposit tax, in banks where the most money is paid by Russian depositors.
    1. Vadivak
      Vadivak 29 March 2013 12: 38 New
      +4
      Quote: FED
      In this situation with Cyprus, Russia wanted to throw on the headstock


      What is our money doing there? Is there neither production nor agriculture, mythical hydrocarbons? No, rather offshore
      1. FED
        FED 29 March 2013 12: 43 New
        +4
        Yes, it’s understandable, that’s why they didn’t give money to Cyprus, but they wanted to breed us in the spirit of the USSR on imperial ambitions Our learned to think different
    2. Bigriver
      Bigriver 29 March 2013 12: 50 New
      0
      Quote: FED
      ... They got angry and made 80% of the tax on deposits, in banks where there is the most money of Russian depositors.

      The information is not reliable, but fresh :)
      Most deposits in Cyprus are of English origin.
      1. Rink
        Rink 29 March 2013 16: 10 New
        +2
        Quote: BigRiver
        Most deposits in Cyprus are of English origin.

        I’m ready to argue on cognac: just English deposits, especially those above 100 thousand - nothing threatens in Cyprus. And not even because there are two British military bases nearby in Cyprus ...
    3. Rink
      Rink 29 March 2013 13: 27 New
      13
      Quote: FED
      ....... They got angry and made 80% of the tax on deposits, in banks where there is the most money of Russian depositors.

      I don’t know, but for some reason it seems to me that this is not the end of the performance, and there will be the second part of “Marlezon Ballet”.

      The first thing that comes to mind is that the selection of investors' funds cannot be recognized as legal in any way. By no law. Default of countries, bankruptcy of banks is one thing, but what does robbery of depositors have to do with it?
      Russia as a state and private investors themselves must necessarily appeal to the European courts of the relevant jurisdiction.
      True, one must be prepared for what may be asked to show the origin of the invested wealth. Which, by and large, has nothing to do with the case, and even if they are dishonest and looted in Russia, then they should be returned to Russia. Nevertheless, the “dishonesty” of confiscated money may serve Europeans as a moral justification.
      But if you prove that the money is honest, then I can’t imagine at all what sauce the court can “justify” the Euro-confiscation of money from foreign investors to save the Cypriot economy ?!

      Well, the second. Knowing a little about Putin’s character, and the ability of his team to find and make all kinds of diagonal moves, one can expect that this stupid robbery to Europe more than once will pop up, they will get these Russian money across their throats ...
      It does not seem to me that they will bring them happiness.

      PS I'm just shocked by the arrogance of European politicians, from their complete indifference to compliance with their own and international laws in recent years!
      The bombing of independent sovereign states, UN members - no problem! Support for money and weapons of terrorist organizations and simple gangs - let alone spit! The filing of a real, fabricated lie in the media - they do not even apologize or blush. It seems to be not shameful at all. Just think - lied ?! so what?

      Is this the end of western civilization? "The collapse of the Roman Empire"?
      1. Vladimir_61
        Vladimir_61 29 March 2013 14: 38 New
        +3
        Quote: Skating rink
        Is this the end of western civilization? "The collapse of the Roman Empire"?

        One of the stages. Double-dealing, hypocrisy, debauchery, robbery, annihilation of unwanted - what other signs are needed to understand the collapse? Key events ahead.
  8. treskoed
    treskoed 29 March 2013 12: 34 New
    +5
    The precedent of confiscation of money, and even with such a Russian accent, raises the most serious question about how to allocate funds from our state reserves. That same minfinovskoy egg capsule. For a rainy day.

    You can’t say more clearly! And for the Ministry of Finance "all God's dew .."
    1. ATATA
      ATATA 29 March 2013 12: 54 New
      +2
      Quote: treskoed
      You can’t say more clearly! And for the Ministry of Finance "all God's dew .."

      Until the thunder goes out ...
  9. knn54
    knn54 29 March 2013 12: 39 New
    +3
    I repeat, but Cyprus is a super pyramid, where our "nabob" was simply thrown as ordinary investors.
  10. Tartary
    Tartary 29 March 2013 12: 43 New
    +7
    Who benefits from the fact that everyone in Russia understands who is who?
    That's right - GDP ...
    Would Europe go to an open confrontation with Putin?
    No! What is it DO.RA or what?
    So we can assume that the GDP and Co. advanced such a topic that the West took, and played into the hands of the GDP ...
    Now, without internal cataclysms and absolutely without any connection with GDP, the oligarchs are seated on a certain hook - and it’s troublesome to keep babosos in the West, and there’s still no box in the house (in Russia) where money can be safely stored ...
    I think that the topic of offshore in the Far East has been thrown for good reason ...
    Right now, clearly the creation of mechanisms and rules for the further Game is going on, between the oligarchs and the GDP ...
    If so, then do not care about the losses in Cyprus history ...
    Moreover, it seems like their own, the Russian oligarchs managed to withdraw earlier, as was the case in August 1998 ...
    1. optimist
      optimist 29 March 2013 13: 25 New
      -5
      It is not necessary for our "king" to ascribe the exploits of Hercules. Tell us more about the fact that the sun rises every day thanks to it ... laughing
      1. lelikas
        lelikas 29 March 2013 13: 54 New
        +7
        Quote: optimist
        Tell us more about the fact that the sun rises every day thanks to it ...
        - Nah, the Bear suffered time :)
    2. ovgorskiy
      ovgorskiy 29 March 2013 13: 43 New
      +6
      Your train of thought is correct. I will add that from the speeches of the heads of state corporations, they lost miserable amounts in Cyprus and withdrew money from there in advance. Talk about free eq. zone in the Far East began before the Cyprus crisis. In short, Pu and Me together threw suckers in the face of thieves and traders.
      "Citizens, keep money in a savings bank ...."
    3. Karabin
      Karabin 29 March 2013 19: 34 New
      0
      Quote: Tartary
      Right now, clearly the creation of mechanisms and rules for the further Game is going on, between the oligarchs and the GDP ...

      Does the fray fray by concepts? But is it not better for Putin to look into the Constitution.
    4. mda
      mda 29 March 2013 19: 46 New
      0
      Quote: Tartary
      SHE do.ra what-whether

      Something smart Europe is also not very similar.
  11. valokordin
    valokordin 29 March 2013 12: 46 New
    0
    The result is everything to Avtodor, everything to Offshore, everything to Cyprus, we’ll strike by the decision of the European Union on robbers and bureaucrats, on impassability and sloppiness. All to Cyprus !!!!!
  12. Owl
    Owl 29 March 2013 12: 49 New
    0
    I’m wondering, what was Cyprus hoping for when signing up for such conditions of assistance? I will never believe that Cypriot leaders do not understand that their economy and financial system is just a cover. And even restrictions on withdrawing and withdrawing money will not help, but will only delay the country's bankruptcy for a couple of years.
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 29 March 2013 13: 45 New
      +4
      Quote: Owl
      I’m wondering, what was Cyprus hoping for when signing up for such conditions of assistance?

      Yes, there is no calculation here, it is more likely the financial dependence of the Cypriot officials on gentlemen with the EU. where are their contributions ????? the only way. In any case, Cyprus is an economic corpse, not a single kopeika of third-party investments will come to Cyprus, but the outflow of capital will be constant.
    2. Urrry
      Urrry 29 March 2013 17: 04 New
      +2
      all the leaders in democratic countries are essentially temporary workers, the main thing for them is to delay the collapse of the system while they are in power ... "after us at least a flood", he will leave his post in a couple of years - and let the next leader have a headache to do with the country. Not his own, I’m not sorry ... the flaw in democracy is in this, and this trait was described in pre-revolutionary Russian books in support of the need to preserve the monarchy: the monarch transfers the country to his descendants. and interested in making her as good as possible. After serving the term of office, the president will give his children only the money that he earned in this post ... :)
      And yes: the interest of “long-term planning”, “resolution of problems and not their postponement” was to some extent the Soviet one-party system, which recognized that it was in power not only for 4 years until the next election, but much longer ...)
  13. optimist
    optimist 29 March 2013 12: 59 New
    +5
    How much can you whine about this ... All these screams remind me of the moaning of the L.O.A.A., who lost the scam. And not H.E.R. was to sit down to play !!! (This is me, our BOBL docent Russian "elite") ...
  14. Mareman Vasilich
    Mareman Vasilich 29 March 2013 13: 39 New
    +3
    This is a two-way problem. If you take into account the country as it is now, then do not care about Cyprus and the European Union. There are no state funds there. Keep money at a savings bank. And on the other hand, this political move makes it clear that there is a eurozone. The USSR at one time simply played with muscles in the countries of the Warsaw Pact in the form of maneuvers, making it clear that it sees everything.
    so in fact, those who kept stolen there and no, just turned out to be a sucker, since they did not think strategically, two or three moves forward.
  15. Black
    Black 29 March 2013 14: 16 New
    0
    ".... and these people forbade picking their nose !!!! ,,,,"
  16. Vladimir_61
    Vladimir_61 29 March 2013 14: 45 New
    +2
    About the "egg". It is a very real version of the next robbery. What is the best finance minister of 2010? No worse than praise the enemy. And nothing to do with it ... The trend is emerging: as soon as the western "partners" of someone in power in Russia are praised, wait for the opposite result. Short-sighted fools or disguised traitors?
  17. LaGlobal
    LaGlobal 29 March 2013 15: 02 New
    +1
    Tambov Wolf is your ally.
    - so Yes!*
  18. family
    family tree 29 March 2013 15: 29 New
    +2
    The precedent of confiscation of money, and even with such a Russian accent, raises the most serious question about how to allocate funds from our state reserves. That same minfinovskoy egg capsule. For a rainy day.

    It is worth noting that one of the main issues to be discussed at the BRICS summit in Durban is the issue related to the formation of the BRICS development bank. If such a financial institution really appears, it can become an impressive alternative to the International Monetary Fund, which, although under the jurisdiction of the UN, actually serves the interests of only those states that advocate the so-called Western principles of economic development. In fact, the IMF has long become a sort of big soap bubble, which by its appearance only creates the illusion of the colorful and richness of modern economic reality.

    Somehow it’s all, one to one, as ordered.
  19. Vrungel78
    Vrungel78 29 March 2013 16: 06 New
    0
    [b] Europeans organized Cyprus hara-kiri.
    The Europeans have made hara-kiri for everyone.
  20. taseka
    taseka 29 March 2013 16: 18 New
    +1
    I liked what our prime minister said - "Rob the loot!" He will remain silent to the thief, and our knolls are kept pennies by the knoll over the knoll of the world and they don’t need to fear!
  21. ImIooImI
    ImIooImI 29 March 2013 16: 46 New
    +2
    EU Cyprus "threw" - yes!
    Cyprus "appreciated" what the "roof" of the EU is - yes!
    Cyprus received 10 kkk from the EU ?! - Yes
    The next step seems logical to me alone - Cyprus "throws" the EU and asks for "protection" from Russia))
    TA-dah!
    Profit - deposits saved, scammers - punished, Russia - happy!
    PS Well, yes .. the stink from the "threw" will be oh how much! But the political gain for all the "good guys" is IMHO obvious! Cyprus - showed independence and defended itself! Russia - will receive not only political gain, but also a developed banking system + resort (for the Navy), etc. etc.
    Although of course no one will agree to such an open confrontation with the EU ((but in vain ...
  22. Urrry
    Urrry 29 March 2013 16: 58 New
    +5
    Well, Putin’s campaign is far-fetched: he just came to power - oil prices jumped up ... He began to urge the elite to "be patriotic" - the hop and the Magnitsky law in the United States were adopted for doubters ... He suggested withdrawing money from abroad and investing in production in Russia - here you have robbery of deposits in Cyprus for those who did not understand his hints ... while he is shorter rushing :)
  23. Bashkaus
    Bashkaus 29 March 2013 18: 03 New
    +3
    Comrades, tell me, did it happen to any of you that we actually lost our stabilization fund, which is carefully kept in the USA?
    Why lost? Yes, because in the end they will do the same to us, frankly say "to whom I owe, I forgive everyone" Cyprus is proof of this.
    We DO NOT see our money, it is a fact.
    1. Misantrop
      Misantrop 29 March 2013 18: 42 New
      +3
      Quote: Bashkaus
      Comrades, tell me, did it happen to any of you that we actually lost our stabilization fund, which is carefully kept in the USA?
      So for the majority it was clear from the very beginning. Hell knows when they talked about it. And the proponents of democracy reassured that "everything is seized." But now even the most dull ones have shown that he grabbed whom and for what place ...
      1. stalkerwalker
        stalkerwalker 29 March 2013 18: 51 New
        +7
        Add.
        Now it will be the norm of financial life.
        No wonder the new American establishment was called neo-Bolsheviks even 5 years ago.
        If you have problems with finances - ".. and what is there to think? Take and share!". Balls.
      2. Bashkaus
        Bashkaus 29 March 2013 20: 10 New
        +1
        Well, what was clear for a long time was a clear matter, I mean that earlier they were all conclusions and suspicions, and now we crossed a certain line when everyone began to call by their proper names completely without hiding. This is a shame.
  24. voichuk2010
    voichuk2010 29 March 2013 19: 17 New
    0
    Well done Leontyev.
  25. Karabin
    Karabin 29 March 2013 19: 38 New
    +1
    The precedent of confiscation of money, and even with such a Russian accent, raises the most serious question about how to allocate funds from our state reserves.

    Why confiscate what is already given away.
  26. matross
    matross 29 March 2013 21: 09 New
    +1
    The United States is destroying the European banking system and by the hands of the Europeans themselves is undermining the trust of depositors, including and potential. At the same time, the US banking market is becoming much more attractive.
  27. darksoul
    darksoul 30 March 2013 23: 49 New
    0
    Quote: GELEZNII_KAPUT
    Absolutely in the hole! Then a friend of mine said after visiting relatives in Germany: How will they fight with us? !! there 30% of Russians, 30% of Turks and 30% of Germans are pensioners, and 10% of pede ... tolerasts !!!


    Here 10% of them are the most dangerous ...... during a war with such rear areas should be securely covered, the border to the castle laughing