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The Syrian army is fighting today with our real enemy

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Being in Syria, you physically feel that ocean of lies, which falls upon the whole world, not excluding, of course, Russia, about practically everything that happens in the country. "The Assad regime is kept in the balance and the heroic Mujahideen are ready to take Damascus every second." Damascus is calmer, more fun, more comfortable, maybe, if not Moscow, then certainly Yekaterinburg, Nizhny Novgorod or Rostov. “The atrocities of the Syrian army against civilians!” I did not see an army that is more delicate, to the detriment of itself and its tasks, refers to war on its own territory. There is not a single soldier and officer who every second would not feel that he is fighting at home, and some literally in their own cities, where they grew up, where their homes and their lives were destroyed. "The army consists exclusively of Alawites who have nowhere to go." Absolute nonsense, refuted by simple communication with soldiers and officers.


Provided that there is an unlimited flow of money for destabilization and destruction and an unlimited flow of maniacs for the same purposes, the regime, which does not enjoy colossal support from the population, could not last more than two years - even a month. Assad proved his undoubted right to remain at the head of Syria in these two monstrous years.

The problem of Syria is that against the most tolerant, the most secular, the most civilized state of the Arab East, war is being hired for billions of dollars, millions of resources by completely primitive beggars. The monetary resource of Qataris and Saudis, the human resource of the primitive lower ranks of the Islamic world is practically inexhaustible. And above all this, the political and power roof of the progressive civilized West has been built.

Here, in Syria, the personnel and infrastructure are actually being formed, collecting all the world-wide trash for war, for the physical destruction, first of Syria, and then of Iran and Russia. This is not fantasy, not nonsense, not conspiracy structures. These are inscriptions in Arabic, and often in Russian, on the walls of houses. These inscriptions can not see only the blind. The Syrian army is fighting today with our real enemy on the distant approaches. And if we are unable to support it, we will be at war without a Syrian army without any approaches. This is a medical fact. Details in the next issue.
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  1. aksakal
    aksakal 27 March 2013 07: 06
    108
    Already understood, Leontiev-))))).
    Syria is our Spain in the 30s of the last century. Defeat Nazi Germany in Spain - and there would be no attack a little later than the USSR itself!
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 27 March 2013 08: 01
      33
      Quote: aksakal
      Defeat Nazi Germany in Spain - and there would be no attack a little later than the USSR itself!

      What then was said at the meetings of the League of Nations, does anyone know?
      I suppose the main role was played by the same person.
      1. Perch_xnumx
        Perch_xnumx 27 March 2013 10: 30
        21

        The international situation began to change quite quickly. Most European states have long been wary of the Spanish Republic, seeing in it a potential ally of the Stalinist USSR and a source of the spread of various revolutionary ideas. July 25, 1936 France, under pressure from Great Britain, unexpectedly announced "non-interference in Spanish affairs" and broke off the agreement on the supply of arms to the republic. Sympathetic to the Spanish Republicans, French Prime Minister Leon Blum and Minister of Aviation Pierre Cote sent only a small batch of obsolete aircraft without weapons. On August 8, France announced a complete embargo on the import of weapons into Spain. On August 24, all European states signed an extremely imperfect agreement on “non-interference”; on September 9, the special “Committee on Non-Intervention in Spanish Affairs” began to work in the League of Nations.

        FAI Bus in Barcelona: To Zaragoza! August 1936

        At the same time, from the very first days of the rebellion, Portugal began to provide tremendous assistance to the rebels (money, weapons, volunteers, etc.). At the end of July, nationalist leaders Generals Francisco Franco and Emilio Mola were able to agree on assistance from Nazi Germany and fascist Italy. After some hesitation, Hitler and Mussolini (with the participation of Canaris and Goering and Ciano, respectively) agreed. The Führer saw the Spanish war as a testing ground for German weapons and young German pilots, and Spain, in the future, after the victory of the nationalists, as a German satellite, while the Duce seriously considered the idea of ​​Spain entering the Italian kingdom.

        Poster of the Spanish nationalists: "Long live Spain, Italy, Germany and Portugal!" (in the center is a portrait of Franco)

        On July 27 and 28, Italian SM-81 bombers and German U-52 were delivered to Spain. In a week, they completely cleared the Strait of Gibraltar from the Republican Navy, which allowed nationalists to freely transfer troops from Morocco to Spain. From August 14, deliveries of Italian Carro CV3 / 33 wedges began to Spain. In the middle of the same August, the Italian fleet and aircraft played an important role in eliminating the Catalan nationalist attempt to recapture the island of Mallorca from the putschists. From the end of August 1936, German and Italian pilots became active participants in air battles in the Spanish sky. Despite the fact that both Germany and Italy formally approved the idea of ​​“non-intervention”, in fact both of these powers did not stop the active support of the Spanish nationalists throughout the war.
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 27 March 2013 10: 42
          12
          Quote: Perch_1
          France, under pressure from the UK, unexpectedly announced "non-intervention

          How are these two countries "dear" to the whole world. Nothing has changed, only the United States should be put in place of Germany.
      2. atalef
        atalef 27 March 2013 18: 15
        +3
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        What then was said at the meetings of the League of Nations, does anyone know?

        USSR was expelled from the League of Nations for aggression against Finland
        December 14 1939 of the USSR was expelled from the League of Nations for starting a war with Finland

        Germany left itself.
        Despite the support of Germany by England and Italy, France with the help of the United States managed to reach an agreement with four countries: Great Britain, France, Italy, and the USA. The project they agreed provided for the disarmament of Germany in two stages. Neira K. refused to accept this project, and 6 OK 1933 Germany sent notes to London and Rome, in which it was stated that the "proposal of four" puts it in a discriminatory position. Attempts to influence Germany were unsuccessful, and 14 OK 1933 she followed Japan out of the League of Nations. This step of the fascist government showed that it has ceased to reckon with the international organization and has embarked on the implementation of far-reaching plans.
      3. Ruslan67
        Ruslan67 27 March 2013 18: 59
        +4
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        I suppose the main role was played by the same person.

        The faces were different, but the names are the same. am
      4. rolik
        rolik 28 March 2013 10: 12
        +9
        Gather a conference together with China, and declare that if Qatar does not stop arming terrorists and aiding global terrorism. Qatar will be hit, give two days and then hammer rockets around the main palace. Qatar is not a member of NATO? That’s the whole story and then let the European fagots yell, and the tog point will still play. At the same time, we will make it clear how seriously we take this problem.
        1. kostiknet
          kostiknet 28 March 2013 12: 59
          +7
          Quote: rolik
          At the same time, we will make it clear how seriously we take this problem.

          And that, quite a sensible idea. Just in the spirit of the main "European political realities". Agreed "German with French" "Russian with Chinese", spat in the direction of the UN and went to "kill the goats" at their discretion. And whoever in the world doesn’t "like it" - can go "TO THE GARDEN, everyone to the garden" repeat All this is done, only Russia chews snot, but itches. We look back to the West - but do not scold?
          1. Andryfyre
            Andryfyre April 2 2013 20: 43
            0
            I fully support it - it would be time for Russia to say its weighty word, and not "wag its tail and keep its nose in the wind, that is, where it blows from." It's time to become a "legislator" in world politics myself.
        2. Hudo
          Hudo 28 March 2013 13: 22
          +2
          Quote: rolik
          Gather a conference together with China, and declare that if Qatar does not stop arming terrorists and aiding global terrorism. Qatar will be hit, give two days and then hammer rockets around the main palace.

          It would be useful for Qatar to get a spanking, he was too conceited. Only here, so that China, as if agreeing, quietly and quietly did not back up at the very last moment.
          And how Western truthful media will howl! Oooooooooooo !!! Gamers and children's bodies will be skillfully made to show videos around the world.
        3. Botanologist
          Botanologist 28 March 2013 15: 53
          +3
          give two days and then hammer rockets around the main palace.

          In general, it is time for a long time to deliver to Syria Mi-28, Iskander, air defense of all levels. Yes, and to form a brigade of volunteers, arm and put on modern technology will not be superfluous. And then we wipe zhoo-poo, but we just make excuses. soldier
          And stripping, stripping, stripping, and on the borders with Turkey and Jordan - sheer mining.
          Well, with Qatar to deal with the war, and with the security services. A couple of planes with their princes will fall - the earplugs will think.
    2. nokki
      nokki 27 March 2013 08: 05
      65
      Quote: aksakal
      Syria is our Spain in the 30 of the last century.

      True, Aksakal! To the very point! And with this trash, as well as with their patrons, there is no need to stand on ceremony! The West is used to fighting with the wrong hands. It is necessary to poke him, as Kutuzov used to say, with his muzzle right in! They are afraid of us! You can’t lose a minute now!

      All these fearful conversations, such as "how would there be a war", will lead precisely to it. We must beat them and beat right now, in a foreign territory!
      1. Dangerous
        Dangerous 27 March 2013 08: 50
        +8
        Speak all right, but no one at the top needs it. They all have children abroad, money is also in foreign accounts, why should our leaders quarrel with the West? LADIES over there he devoted a whole meeting to the Cyprus problem, so much money is there for our ruling "elite", her mother's leg ... So what here we will have in the future they do not really care, they will be thrown over the cordon and there will be smart and patriots from themselves build
        1. domokl
          domokl 27 March 2013 09: 41
          53
          Quote: Dangerous
          that's just nobody at the top does not need it.
          You talk nonsense .. If this were so, then Russia would never go against almost the whole world on the Syrian issue. And do not say that we somehow influenced the position of Putin and the government ... This is the real position of the Russian leadership and ours too ...
          Syria is the country where the world is being tested ... Bandits will win, money will win, as the foundation of the world .. Syria will win, justice will win ... Probably for the first time in many years ...
          1. sergo0000
            sergo0000 27 March 2013 09: 56
            43
            Quote: domokl
            Syria is the country where the world is being tested ... Bandits will win, money will win, as the foundation of the world .. Syria will win, justice will win ... Probably for the first time in many years ...

            Wonderful words! good
            1. NSG42
              NSG42 27 March 2013 12: 33
              +3
              Quote: sergo0000
              Quote: domokl
              Syria is the country where the world is being tested ... Bandits will win, money will win, as the foundation of the world .. Syria will win, justice will win ... Probably for the first time in many years ...

              Wonderful words! good

              To get rid of the bandits, you need to send and check on them "Buratino", I think that even in the basements nothing will remain alive. The problems will be immediately solved, and the rest, together with the LAG, will rush into the desert.
              1. Danafxnumx
                Danafxnumx 27 March 2013 13: 24
                +5
                the problem is that after Pinocchio, there will not be any civilians ...
                the war is on in populated territories ....
                1. wall
                  wall 27 March 2013 15: 13
                  +6
                  Dude thinks there is a war like Battlefield or Call of Duty - you point and shoot, and the larger the caliber, the better. And in extreme cases, you can reboot.
                  1. mihai_md2003
                    mihai_md2003 28 March 2013 02: 32
                    +1
                    I agree in real life everything is a little more complicated, if not monogoooo complicated. Very seriously, you need to think about how and where to crash, and whether to crash at all. Never forget that behind these decisions are the lives of real people, and not only foreigners. I really hope that today in Russia there are centers of analysis and forecasting that can predict the consequences of certain actions in the long term. I think the time of Boriski is over when it was possible to dance and the next day, just without a fight, surrender the ally’s country, whether it be Yugoslavia or Iraq. What I definitely need now is to raise the country faster, because it seems to me now to be 39 years old, and already the 40th.
                2. Simon
                  Simon 27 March 2013 15: 36
                  +2
                  And if the militants' approaches to these cities are blocked by Pinocchio, I think the effect will be good.
                  1. antiaircrafter
                    antiaircrafter 27 March 2013 18: 56
                    +5
                    Quote: Simon
                    And if the militants' approaches to these cities are blocked by Pinocchio

                    Remote mining systems, I think, are more appropriate to use for these purposes.
                  2. Kolyma
                    Kolyma 28 March 2013 06: 32
                    +1
                    You do not forget that this system needs constant combat protection with constant involvement of equipment, which, to put it mildly, will not increase the effectiveness of the ground forces, given that it is hardly possible to successfully use the complex in a civil war ... otherwise Pinocchio becomes a dream grenade launcher - the level of protection against manual anti-tank weapons, unfortunately, is not its thing.

                    but it’s true, thinking aloud, for example, I’ve only heard about one effective combat use of the complex during the Chechen war, and then out of our media, I really didn’t even understand the 1st or 2nd company, I just remembered the group in 800 fighters put. This is to say that despite the fact that the complex is not bad, it is still not a decisive means of combat in this war, given its performance characteristics, at least at its current stage.
                  3. edge
                    edge April 2 2013 04: 44
                    0
                    Quote: Simon
                    And if the militants' approaches to these cities are blocked by Pinocchio

                    it is a system of uncontrolled volley fire: it is useless against single highly mobile small groups.
              2. mamba
                mamba 27 March 2013 14: 21
                11
                Quote: NSG42
                To get rid of bandits, you need to send ...

                to Syria, Kadyrov’s guards to get down to business, rather than messing around in Moscow.
                1. Nick
                  Nick 27 March 2013 19: 32
                  +2
                  Quote: mamba
                  to Syria, Kadyrov’s guards to get down to business,

                  This is the case for real Dzhigits, and scaring Muscovites with their bravado is cheap ...
              3. Nick
                Nick 27 March 2013 19: 29
                0
                Quote: NSG42
                it is necessary to send and check on them "Buratino",

                This is overkill. They are fighting on their territory, and there are their own, civilians ...
            2. lonshakovpetr
              lonshakovpetr 27 March 2013 13: 36
              +2
              Our elite understands all this and Syria is a matter of time, and there it is not far from Iran .... while the activity that is aimed at the rearmament of the Caspian flotilla can be explained.
              1. antiaircrafter
                antiaircrafter 27 March 2013 19: 08
                +3
                Quote: lonshakovpetr
                then how else can you explain that activity

                Option: boats from the Caspian along inland waterways can be easily and quickly transferred even to the Black Sea, even to the Baltic, even to the White. And in the Caspian, no one is an eyesore - neither the Finns, nor the Baltic states, nor the Turks with the Bulgarians ...
            3. lonshakovpetr
              lonshakovpetr 28 March 2013 19: 29
              0
              [media = youtube.com / watch? v = oEM-XZNBpJY]
            4. lonshakovpetr
              lonshakovpetr 28 March 2013 19: 30
              0
              [media = youtube.com / watch? v = oEM-XZNBpJY]
            5. lonshakovpetr
              lonshakovpetr 28 March 2013 19: 31
              +2

              from 2.30 look, interesting inscriptions
            6. lonshakovpetr
              lonshakovpetr 28 March 2013 19: 32
              0

              from 2.30 look, interesting inscriptions
          2. Dangerous
            Dangerous 27 March 2013 10: 27
            +1
            Russia went against the whole world! It sounds cool, of course, but what is it really? Our weapons are not allowed either by air or by sea. Compare how much material resources the West spends - "The monetary resource of the Qataris and Saudis, the human resource of the primitive lower strata of the Islamic world is practically inexhaustible. And over all this, the political and power roof of the progressive civilized West has been built" and what are we spending? How many times did Assad himself and his ministers come to us asking for help, where is she? So you can say one thing, through the lips of our officials, and at the same time do nothing. Long ago they could have supplied weapons or at least repair kits for armored vehicles.
            1. Dragonmu
              Dragonmu 27 March 2013 10: 34
              24
              And who on the UN Council has not spoken a resolution for what year? If it weren’t for Russia, Syria would have simply been bombed to a desert state and that’s all, that is, the Libyan scenario is what Russia is blocking. And besides, ships often enter Tartus (if I’m not mistaken) and it’s far from the fact that they are empty.
              1. Dangerous
                Dangerous 27 March 2013 10: 38
                +3
                While Russia is "blocking", the West is directing money and human resources there. And at the same time, Assad no longer has equipment and soldiers
                1. kirieeleyson
                  kirieeleyson 27 March 2013 11: 17
                  15
                  Quote: Dangerous
                  And Assad does not get any more equipment and soldiers

                  I agree absolutely with this statement. Of course, we supply equipment, but human resources are limited. At least so many troops need to be sent there to protect the border perimeter. Who wrote about the mandate for the presence of the CSTO forces? It is very important not to hesitate and adequately assess the "grip". Also, something needs to be done with Qatar, with the Saudis. Do not disdain anything, even bacteriological weapons. It is necessary to take out of the game the extremist regimes of these countries by staging an uprising in these countries or take a couple of palaces, as they once took Amin's palace. And do not care what the United States and these English creatures will say there.
                  1. Danafxnumx
                    Danafxnumx 27 March 2013 13: 31
                    +8
                    it also seems to me that you need to deal with the Saudis first ...

                    but the presence of our troops there is extremely undesirable ...
                    1. Director
                      Director 27 March 2013 23: 07
                      +2
                      Quote: DanaF1

                      DanaF1 Today, 13:31 PM ↑ new 4 
                      it also seems to me that you need to deal with the Saudis first ...

                      but the presence of our troops there is extremely undesirable ...

                      at how you were going to deal with the Saudis without our troops. EPT STRATEG
                    2. sscha
                      sscha 28 March 2013 11: 05
                      0
                      And - to understand not explicitly, but secretly ..... With all that it implies .....
              2. FC SKIF
                FC SKIF 27 March 2013 14: 21
                +1
                Yes, our position on Syria was satisfied, in Libya it was unsuccessful., And in Vietnam, at one time there was 5 +!
                1. Nick
                  Nick 27 March 2013 19: 40
                  +5
                  Quote: FC Skif
                  Yes, our position on Syria was satisfied, in Libya it was unsuccessful., And in Vietnam, at one time there was 5 +!

                  This is true, Skif, but it is worth noting that during the Vietnam War we had many military, economic, political resources. There was a mighty Soviet Union, there were countries of a socialist community and orientation, there was a military bloc of the Warsaw Treaty. Alas, now we do not have such powerful resources, but the TRUTH is with us!
                  1. evgenm55
                    evgenm55 28 March 2013 10: 34
                    +1
                    And also China and India ...
                2. HAIFISCH
                  HAIFISCH 27 March 2013 22: 13
                  +2
                  here, and after Vietnam these learned a lesson that it’s not profitable to fight with one’s amia, now there’s a new tactic for mercenaries, Islamists, etc ....
              3. Eric
                Eric 27 March 2013 16: 15
                +1
                Yes? Would you bomb it like that? Do not entertain yourself with illusions!
              4. evgenm55
                evgenm55 28 March 2013 10: 31
                +2
                They spat in the council on our balaboloks - and they do not bomb for completely different reasons. Most likely they are afraid that a country driven to despair will use chemistry and missiles, and next to the country - jackals, Israel. That is what they are afraid of. It is easier and more impunity to throw endless people into battle. hordes of kov.Ne need to sing praises to those who do not deserve them. And how did STALIN help Spain? Read Zhukov, Poskrebyshev, Shaposhnikov, memoirs of "Spanish" pilots - then you will understand where the real business is and where the mold is.
            2. opkozak
              opkozak 27 March 2013 15: 20
              +4
              Quote: Dangerous
              And over all this is built the political and power roof of the progressive civilized West

              More correct East (Saudis and others).

              Saudis, besides Iran, and Turkey would be happy to bang, because this is not an Islamic, but a secular state, but overcomes the fear of former Ottomans.
              1. evgenm55
                evgenm55 28 March 2013 11: 38
                +2
                The East (Islamists, etc.) without the states and shaving and mouths would not have opened, only feeding the West and its leading role guides them, and they would have grazed their camels like a thousand years ago and ate oil depots. And about the Ottomans - completely nonsense, long ago, nobody has been afraid of them long ago. They are afraid of NATO, especially the states, and for the states, Turkey is a bridgehead even against Iran, Syria, even against us. So the Turks will not be offended.
          3. stalkerwalker
            stalkerwalker 27 March 2013 17: 46
            +7
            Quote: domokl
            Bandits will win, money will win, as the foundation of the world .. Syria will win, justice will win ... Probably for the first time in many years ...

            Little of.
            Following Syria will come the turn of Iran. I. Guess from three times who will be next after (and maybe together) Iran?
            Do not forget about the already clearly formed army of mercenaries, which won in Libya, and continues to replenish its ranks.
            After the end of the fighting in Syria, these "wild geese" will have to look for an application - and here Iran is close at hand, and the mountains of the Caucasus are visible to the naked eye.
          4. Nick
            Nick 27 March 2013 19: 27
            0
            Quote: domokl
            You talk nonsense.

            Unfortunately, dear Alexander, most of the comments of this dangerous gentleman correspond to your definition.
          5. evgenm55
            evgenm55 28 March 2013 10: 17
            +2
            Where and where did it go? Chatter at the UN, which no one pays attention to? Where is the real help? Supply of weapons and equipment? Compare with Spain - where is the flow of volunteers and command staff for a real "internship", running in new weapon systems and equipment? So you don't need to sing empty praises - but talk - this is exactly what our "rulers" have learned over the past 20 years good. Well, also steal from your own people. It is not known which is better ...
        2. Vladimir_61
          Vladimir_61 27 March 2013 09: 41
          14
          Quote: Dangerous
          Speak all right, but no one at the top needs it. They all have children abroad, money is also in foreign accounts, why should our leaders quarrel with the West? LADIES over there he devoted a whole meeting to the Cyprus problem, so much money is there for our ruling "elite", her mother's leg ... So what here we will have in the future they do not really care, they will be thrown over the cordon and there will be smart and patriots from themselves build

          There are such. However, they are greatly mistaken. Should there be a full-scale attack on Russia, there will be no place for traitors anywhere. Will they run away? Then, according to the laws of wartime, they will be dealt with abroad accordingly. In the best case, they will be wrapped up to the skin, forced to "cooperate". At worst ... Who needs them with their rotten gut.
          1. aksakal
            aksakal 27 March 2013 21: 02
            +6
            In my opinion, according to Berezovsky, they are beginning to understand that the West accepts them only in order to rob them of taxes with the help of taxes and law firms, and then force them to commit suicide - well, or to kill them very skillfully, which would look like suicide -))) ) only a stuffed fool like a little dog after that will still believe in the west, who with brains slowly begins to see clearly -)))) it hurts, the pattern breaks, how? After all, the West is the stronghold of civilization and decency! And after Cyprus, doubts should not remain at all-))))). In general, all those who have a little bit of money will have to fall in love with their homeland - except for her, they have nothing real in this world! -)))) everything else is just a mirage -)))))
            1. Vladimir_61
              Vladimir_61 27 March 2013 22: 44
              0
              Quote: aksakal
              the West accepts them only in order to rob them to the skin

              It's high time to understand. First, sucked in by dizzying prospects, then unceremoniously put their hand in their pocket. It never reaches the "elite" that they are tolerated there temporarily and that they are treated as the peoples of Russia. The example is correct, and this is what I meant. And not the only one. Hatred for everything connected with Russia has been widespread among those in power abroad for a long time. They will choke on it, the scorpions are in the bank, and on the most crucial days they will gnaw among themselves, leave all their wards to the mercy of fate, saving their skin.
            2. evgenm55
              evgenm55 28 March 2013 11: 44
              0
              Your words would be in their ears ...
        3. Boris55
          Boris55 27 March 2013 15: 02
          -1
          Russia does not help ... let me disagree. Whose weapons is Syria fighting? - ours. Isn't that help? Have you heard about a delayed plane flying from Russia to Syria and landing by the Turks? Bred them. On another 25 plane, a tone of money printed in Russia for Syria flew past them. How can we ...
          1. Dangerous
            Dangerous 27 March 2013 15: 59
            +2
            So judging by the videos, the militants have our same weapons, including even the latest RPG-29
            1. Nick
              Nick 27 March 2013 19: 45
              0
              Quote: Dangerous
              So judging by the videos, the militants have our same weapons, including even the latest RPG-29

              They choose the best, since there are many warehouses with Russian weapons in Libya.
        4. evgenm55
          evgenm55 28 March 2013 10: 09
          0
          The time will come - and get there. If only it were not too late ...
        5. kostiknet
          kostiknet 28 March 2013 13: 21
          +1
          Quote: Dangerous
          They all have children abroad, money is also in foreign accounts, why should our leaders quarrel with the West?

          And how many children of our officials serve in the army? Not in the "Arbat military district", but according to the general extraterritorial principle (that is, where will the Motherland send)? The kids of many bureaucrats learn the same "abroad" (interestingly, in Oxford or Cambridge there is a military department of the RF Ministry of Defense) If such a "servant of the people" does not plan to defend his country, protecting his child from the "army cattle", he keeps money zealously supports the values ​​of our enemies, then a simple question arises - the FUCK do we need such a leader? In case of serious danger, he (and others like him) will be thrown out of here, or they will scream about “not resisting violence,” they say, “the civilized West knows better that we, barbarians, need not washed!
      2. Chavy
        Chavy 27 March 2013 09: 19
        +2
        It is necessary to act aggressively, to give America the heat in their home, then Israel will wither and England will fade.
        1. domokl
          domokl 27 March 2013 09: 44
          17
          Quote: Chavy
          We must act aggressively
          And to turn into a world scarecrow? If we drag like sheep onto a new gate, then we get exactly the same situation that the world’s 2 faced ..
          And God forbid someone will follow your advice ... At the moment, only the position of Russia and China is holding back NATO and the United States from direct aggression.
          1. stalkerwalker
            stalkerwalker 27 March 2013 17: 56
            10
            Quote: domokl
            only the position of Russia and China is holding back NATO and the US from direct aggression.

            No longer holding back ...
            Now options are being calculated on how best to teach this aggression - they are no longer included in the schedule (the images of "tyrants", chemical weapons together with biological ones will not work). A monstrous provocation is needed, comparable to 11/9 and mass hysteria in the media, where Russia, China and Iran will be substituted "in an adult way".
            And then, from the rostrum of the UN, an appeal to all "civilized" humanity will "sound angrily".
            In the meantime, the engines are warming up, the satellite constellations are being reformed.
            And against this background, a "small" military "misunderstanding" between the two Koreas would be very appropriate to "avert the people's eyes" for a while. what
            1. Nick
              Nick 27 March 2013 19: 52
              0
              Quote: stalkerwalker
              No longer holding back ..

              While holding back. If it weren’t for Russia and China, they would have started an open invasion long ago,
              Quote: stalkerwalker
              the options for how best to teach this aggression are calculated - they are no longer included in the schedule (the images of "tyrants", chemical weapons and biological weapons will not work). A monstrous provocation is needed, comparable to 11/9 and mass hysteria in the media, where Russia, China and Iran will be substituted "in an adult way".
              1. stalkerwalker
                stalkerwalker 27 March 2013 20: 04
                +4
                Quote: Nick
                While holding back. If it weren’t for Russia and China, long ago they would have begun an open invasion

                I agree.
                But this is a matter of time.
                And the LAS and NATO have become increasingly hustling ...
                hi
          2. evgenm55
            evgenm55 28 March 2013 11: 49
            0
            And were we in front of the 2nd world war (or, nevertheless, GREAT PATRIOTIC?) My grandfathers didn’t. Yes, I insulted all other veterans-front-line soldiers and rear officers. Respond for yourself-don’t touch the history written by the blood of grandfathers.
        2. FC SKIF
          FC SKIF 27 March 2013 14: 55
          0
          Do not touch them - they themselves will soon kill each other.
        3. Krapovy32
          Krapovy32 28 March 2013 16: 06
          0
          How ? If only to raise a column with them and educate the state Nemtsovs and other "human rights activists." yes
        4. Krapovy32
          Krapovy32 28 March 2013 16: 07
          +1
          How ? If only to raise their fifth column and educate the state Nemtsovs and other "human rights activists." yes
      3. opkozak
        opkozak 27 March 2013 15: 14
        +8
        There was a phrase in the Soviet Union: "If this is true, then I am a Spanish pilot!" It is clear for what reason this phrase arose.
        If there is an interest in maintaining Russia's influence in the Middle East, then it is necessary to send "Syrian pilots", "Syrian DSB" and other troops to Syria.

        If Russia has no interest in resolving the Middle East conflict, then efforts should be made to strengthen the southern borders of the Russian Federation, strengthen the border service, introduce biometric visas, so that militant Islamists cannot penetrate our territory.
        Mali is an example of France's zone of interests. They brought in troops, hatched extremists. They will put "their" power. Probably start skimming the remaining economy.

        Quote: nokki
        All these fearful conversations, such as "no matter how there is a war", will lead precisely to it

        I fully support this idea.
        1. ochakow703
          ochakow703 28 March 2013 09: 29
          +3
          I completely agree with you. Diplomacy is long over, and with all due respect to Mr. Lavrov, his (diplomatic) card is a bit. Now we need to act practically. Well, at least fit a couple of BDK with the Marines, and according to the data of the drones, destroyers from the destroyers (as part of the exercises) to hit targets on the territory of Syria. After all, these gangsters are not moving alone in the city. With a good deal and cleverly organized intelligence, cooperation with the regular army of Syria, plus cruise missiles. I think the effect would be. But to wait for something to resolve itself is utopia. They will devour Assad.
          1. stalkerwalker
            stalkerwalker 28 March 2013 23: 28
            +4
            The GDP order on the start of exercises in the Black Sea was probably heard overseas.
            And overseas, carefully re-read articles on the Mediterranean plans of Russia in the near future. Add the presence of a small group of Russian ships off the coast of Syria today, which can be strengthened over 3-5 days.
            This is the "indirect" force pressure.
        2. evgenm55
          evgenm55 28 March 2013 11: 52
          +1
          Yes, and I agree with this. And, for sure, the General Staff has plans already worked out. Political will is needed.
      4. DDR
        DDR 27 March 2013 22: 02
        +3
        Quote: nokki
        All these fearful conversations, such as "how would there be a war", will lead precisely to it. We must beat them and beat them right now, on foreign territory!

        There is a Latin proverb: "If you want peace, prepare for war." And you need to prepare so that the "striped" panties get wet!
      5. Snoop
        Snoop 28 March 2013 11: 11
        0
        I agree, Hitler’s pacification policy has led to the occupation of most of Europe by him)))
      6. edge
        edge April 2 2013 04: 38
        0
        Quote: nokki
        They are afraid of us!

        eyes are afraid, hands are pulled, waiting until they bark drinks
    3. Dangerous
      Dangerous 27 March 2013 08: 52
      +1
      It used to be that the USSR could send its troops to help, and test new equipment there. And now the West will shout a little, immediately our peace
      1. Bigriver
        Bigriver 27 March 2013 12: 45
        +6
        Quote: Dangerous
        It used to be that the USSR could send its troops to help, and test new equipment there.
        And now the West will shout a little, immediately our peace

        Well...
        Firstly, the USSR had a mission like this - supporting pro-socialist, etc., regimes in the world. And we raked along the way .., mom do not grieve. If you want to get weapons, equipment and advisers - say current: We are on socialist roads !!!
        The USSR is right there with the help. So what? Have we fought a lot with this strategy?
        Second.
        Examples include: the relationship between the cry of the United States, the West and the subsequent obedience to Russia. When was the last time this happened?
        1. Ruslan67
          Ruslan67 27 March 2013 19: 02
          +3
          Quote: BigRiver
          When was the last time this happened?

          It would be more appropriate here, last bully
        2. evgenm55
          evgenm55 28 March 2013 12: 05
          0
          A lot. Look at the political map of '85. Another thing is that everything was handed over - they sent for ham on all channels, hamburgers and Coca-Cola. And do not say that they are humpback, Yeltsin, red, etc. - they are, of course, creatures , traitors, thieves, but where were we, where were we looking? For Lenya Golubkova and endless contests of whores and crying rich? In the same West, millions go out and sweep away anti-people governments, and we have been sitting in family clans for 20 years. SHOULD TOUCH SOCIALISM. And about the shouts - the WTO, Cyprus, the deployment of missile defense, the list goes on and on.
        3. kostiknet
          kostiknet 28 March 2013 14: 00
          -1
          Quote: BigRiver
          Examples include: the relationship between the cry of the United States, the West and the subsequent obedience to Russia. When was the last time this happened?

          OH! Where have our Balkan friends / allies gone? And Iraq? What happens to the countries in which there are National Interests of Russia (or we simply do not have any friends / allies / interests)? As soon as cataclysms occur with the use of weapons, the French and other "democratizers" in any country that is "dear to us" - our Foreign Ministry threatens to shake with "notes" with which NATO children even go to the toilet. After the collapse of the USSR, we only scream, as if bitten in the ass, about our "foreign interests", but in reality, none of the states (by the way, a lot of money owed to us) was saved from intervention (occupation). Are you saying that this is happening (still, by the way) because of our natural timidity? Or maybe because our "sugar daddies" are allowed maximum (according to M. Albright) - to swim on rusty dishes, and to shake with ancient guns? They roared at our rulers (quietly, in their own way), so we don't go where they are not allowed. We only shake the air "for Russia", but we make people laugh. The same francs, almost something wrong - a cruise missile in the head, a landing "to clarify the position of the Foreign Ministry" and "plevanto on the law." But they can, they are AFRAID (probably) But we are NOT. It's a shame like that. And if not for the Strategic Missile Forces, we would have been held for the Papuans. And you say LINKS! WHEN!
      2. evgenm55
        evgenm55 28 March 2013 11: 55
        0
        This is because power is not patriots, but thieves and hucksters. And the West with banks, villas, etc. they are closer and more expensive than their own country and people.
    4. vezunchik
      vezunchik 27 March 2013 08: 59
      0
      We understood that, but the leadership? Anyway, most of the population does not seem to be catching up ...
    5. Vadivak
      Vadivak 27 March 2013 10: 28
      +8
      Quote: aksakal
      Defeat Nazi Germany in Spain

      on the side of the "nationalists" fought - the Italian Volunteer Corps and the German Legion "Condor".,
      Not so simple

      The strength of the German legion "Condor" was about 5 thousand military personnel and civilian (aircraft engineers, technicians, doctors) personnel at the same time.

      The Legion was armed with three-engine Yu-52 bombers and He-51 biplane fighters. Subsequently, they were replaced by more modern Xe-111, Yu-87 and Me-109 (which were actually tested, and therefore there were many civilian aviation personnel in the legion).
      The tank unit of the legion was armed with 180 PzKw I (in Soviet terminology - T-1) - light tanks armed with a coaxial machine gun. German instructors trained Spaniards for them. Subsequently, several dozen captured Soviet T-26 tanks were used. Anti-tank batteries were armed with 37 mm caliber guns.

      Together with other military advisers and civilian personnel, the number of Germans in Spain never exceeded 10 thousand at the same time.
      The maximum number of Italian volunteer corps in March 1937 was less than 50 thousand (including auxiliary and rear units)

      When the generals Franco and Mola rebelled on July 17, 1936, almost all the officers followed them; only about 200 officers out of a total of 15000 remained loyal to the oath. That is, Franco had cadres on the side, and cadres, as you know, decide All
      1. Papakiko
        Papakiko 27 March 2013 10: 56
        +1
        Quote: Vadivak
        The strength of the German legion "Condor" was about 5 thousand

        Did you get this on Wikipedia or from the archives of Nazi Germany?
        About the French, the British and others there is data, who else helped?
    6. Bigriver
      Bigriver 27 March 2013 12: 39
      -1
      Quote: aksakal
      ... Defeat Nazi Germany in Spain - and there would be no attack a little later than the USSR itself!

      And how was this possible if the German Armed Forces, the Wehrmacht did not fight in Spain?
    7. Lord of the Sith
      Lord of the Sith 27 March 2013 14: 13
      +5
      It is necessary to fight not with the effect, but with the causes. Ie with Qatar and the SAE.
      1. 755962
        755962 27 March 2013 15: 38
        +5
        Quote: Sith Lord
        It is necessary to fight not with the effect, but with the causes. Ie with Qatar and the SAE.

        In the Southern Mediterranean, gas deposits have been discovered - in the sea and in Syrian territory (Kara). It is hard to say how large the reserves are, but they are. Qatar exports liquefied natural gas. Tankers. If Assad’s regime collapses, Qatar will be rewarded with the opportunity to transport “blue fuel” directly from the Mediterranean coast through Syria. This will at least double its export volume and at the same time complicate Iranian exports. Strengthening Qatar in the gas market worsens Russia's position. Well, if the Americans manage to bring Algerian gas under control, this is already fraught with a blockade of the oil and gas export of the Russian Federation. So Qatar’s economic interest turns into the geopolitical interest of the United States in its desire to weaken Russia as much as possible.
        1. Lord of the Sith
          Lord of the Sith 27 March 2013 18: 18
          +2
          I agree completely!
    8. Oberon
      Oberon 27 March 2013 21: 29
      0
      Correctly said, because adversaries and Cyprus are flattened.
      Well, how do we equip the Navy base in Cyprus !!!! angry
      for those robberies, it doesn’t matter who took place, or which the Eureka outlined ...
    9. Hammer
      Hammer 28 March 2013 03: 03
      +1
      Quote: aksakal
      Syria is our Spain in the 30s of the last century. Defeat Nazi Germany in Spain - and there would be no attack a little later than the USSR itself!

      no, in fact, what is happening in Sria, this is not "Spain", I would say - this is our "Stalingrad". This is at the beginning of the last century, Spain "is somewhere far away and not here" ... In modern realities, Syria is our last outpost, because after the fall of Syria, all extremist goblins raging there will climb (or rather, they will be sent) to us to the Caucasus and Central Asia, while the pin-do-this will drive Iran into the Stone Age.
      Leontiev is right, we do not just have to - we are already obliged to help Syria survive (in extreme cases, hold out as long as possible). We must do this for the sake of our people, for the future of our children. Or rather, what would our children have in future.
      Just imagine for a moment that to get involved with our people, if this scum does this with its own people - one in blood and faith. And then we are strangers to them a priori ...
      Therefore, Leontiev well done, we must talk about this completely hearing that everyone living in our country would understand and be inspired by what we can expect if we shame Syria, like then Spain.
    10. pinachet
      pinachet 28 March 2013 19: 11
      0
      following this logic, the war in Georgia (namely, its provocation with the shooting of our peacekeepers) was a test of us for strength and lice .. ???
  2. tronin.maxim
    tronin.maxim 27 March 2013 07: 09
    17
    Good morning everyone! hi There is nothing more to say, the video tells everything as it is!
  3. TekhnarMAF
    TekhnarMAF 27 March 2013 07: 33
    +7
    Well, it’s clear they’re trying Us for a tooth! Syria - pr belay another nut, teeth check!
    1. domokl
      domokl 27 March 2013 09: 47
      14
      Quote: TehnarMAF
      Well, it’s clear they’re trying Us for a tooth!
      They tried us back in 08 ... Now they are trying on the tooth of a country that is something of itself ... Iran has put on its teeth in the West, I really want to fight there, so they tried to practice on the Syrians .. But it wasn’t there. It turned out that in addition to the countries of underdevelopment, this whole military machine does not work .. Yes, Russia and China clenched their fists .. You can get a lot of faces in the face ...
      1. ochakow703
        ochakow703 28 March 2013 09: 35
        +1
        I’m just sure that all the activity of GDP in recent years is not without reason. Both regions and opponents. Lines a logical chain.
  4. Humpty
    Humpty 27 March 2013 07: 34
    37
    Leontyev speaks very clearly. If Syria falls, then the Tashkent front will definitely appear. Many millions of primitive savages with megalomania have been inflicted during the years of "independence" throughout Central Asia. Beards and mosques were overgrown. The ministries and parliaments are full of not only American lobbyists, but also Turkish and Saudi. Just someone to sell to.
    It does not surprise me at all that some fiends in Syria believe that they are fighting in Israel.
    A couple of months ago I met one similar instance with us. With higher education, teacher. He was absolutely sure that ferries with cars from Europe unload right on Issyk-Kul Lake.
    1. Papakiko
      Papakiko 27 March 2013 07: 59
      +8
      Quote: Humpty
      He was absolutely sure that ferries with cars from Europe unload right on Issyk-Kul Lake.

      Mommy Mia ........................... Yeprst Konstantin!
      With higher education, teacher !!!!!!!!!!
      I'm in "concerned"!
      And what else is being unloaded from the Okiyansky ships on Yasyk-Kul?
      1. Humpty
        Humpty 27 March 2013 11: 36
        +9
        This teacher also knew how to speak Russian, which is still a common thing. Imagine that in the head of those who do not speak Russian or have "forgotten."
  5. Deniska999
    Deniska999 27 March 2013 07: 35
    0
    Say the obvious things, comrades.
  6. fenix57
    fenix57 27 March 2013 07: 36
    +6
    Yes, you can't argue with the video ... So it's not for nothing that amers create not even a "duet" - a "trio" (Turkey-Israel-Iraq) for the campaign against Syria and Iran.
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 27 March 2013 08: 03
      +8
      Quote: fenix57
      So it's not for nothing that amers create not even a "duet" - a "trio" (Turkey-Israel-Iraq)

      And not even a trio, they forgot Qatar, the Saudis, well, almost the entire LAS. All six are assembled, it remains only to call everything by their proper names.
      1. DeerIvanovich
        DeerIvanovich 27 March 2013 11: 47
        +2
        Iran is too tough for sixes. Iraq especially against the Shiites of Iran will not climb.
        if they will hammer on Iran, then only to all NATO led by Israel
      2. stalkerwalker
        stalkerwalker 27 March 2013 18: 02
        +4
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        And not even a trio, they forgot Qatar, the Saudis, well, almost the entire LAS. All six are assembled, it remains only to call everything by their proper names.

        The pact was not signed, but everything has already been divided in advance: territories, resources, etc.
    2. ATATA
      ATATA 27 March 2013 11: 23
      +1
      Quote: fenix57
      So it is not for nothing that amers create not even a "duet" - a "trio" (Turkey-Israel-Iraq) for the campaign against Syria and Iran.

      Well, I don’t know, they say that they got a serious hitch with Iraq.
      1. DeerIvanovich
        DeerIvanovich 27 March 2013 11: 48
        +3
        still, how do you imagine that Shiites will go against Shiites ... yes, ordinary Iraqis will betray their power and go for Iran
        1. Lord of the Sith
          Lord of the Sith 27 March 2013 14: 21
          +4
          They will not have to give power, as the prime minister of Iraq is Shiite. All the commanders of the Iraqi army brigades are Shiites.
          All police chiefs, except the north, are Shiites.
          Officers and sergeants of the police are Shiites.
          The president suffered a heart attack and planned to leave office, but remained until 2014 - Kurd.
          The head of parliament is a Saudi.
          Most parties are Shiite.

          Iraqi authorities detained cargo on the border with Syria, destined for detachments of Jebhat al-Nusra, fighting against the Syrian government forces, and the three smugglers who accompanied him.
          It is known from reliable sources that the contents of the goods confiscated at the Rabia checkpoint included 1 ton of explosives and 178 units of automatic weapons.
        2. evgenm55
          evgenm55 28 March 2013 12: 16
          0
          You guys are visionaries. They surrendered their country, they ran away, they hung their leader. They themselves fell under the Americans, do you really think they will fight for someone in the name of truth and justice? If this happens, the word of the guard officer, not a gram of vodka more I will not drink.
    3. FC SKIF
      FC SKIF 27 March 2013 14: 58
      +2
      But I still think that the Jews are stirring up water, which I already wrote about.
  7. vitamin ky
    vitamin ky 27 March 2013 07: 38
    +5
    Yes, it’s hard for people — you can only sympathize with the military and civilians — and after all, it’s not Iraq — you bought them all — apparently not everyone forgot what concepts mean as honor — courage and oath.
  8. Region65
    Region65 27 March 2013 07: 50
    28
    Oh Allah! Great, omnipotent, unique and not repeatable! with all my heart, liver and kidneys I appeal to the subject, O Great Dimension of the Universe! The genius of the Universe .... in short, would you take all that trash half-wild half-ragged and full head e ... pulling yourself into heaven in an extremely short time? already got your Neanderthals ....
  9. Goga
    Goga 27 March 2013 07: 56
    18
    In the Caucasus, funding for the "jihad" comes from the same sources, and the personnel are selected according to the same principle, so there is no need to wait for a "Tashkent front", we are already in this war sad
    1. DeerIvanovich
      DeerIvanovich 27 March 2013 11: 49
      +3
      if you look at the statistics, the way it is. over the past year in the North Caucasus, more than the previous 5 years have died from terrorist attacks
    2. stalkerwalker
      stalkerwalker 27 March 2013 18: 06
      +4
      Quote: Gogh
      In the Caucasus, funding for the "jihad" comes from the same sources, and the personnel are selected according to the same principle, so there is no need to wait for a "Tashkent front", we are already in this war sad

      KanEchnna !!!
      Just from the veiled stage, it will go into the open and hot.
      And we have a "fifth column" with the blessing of the mullahs and the lamentations of the muezzins is already ready.
    3. Region65
      Region65 28 March 2013 08: 18
      +2
      terrorism from Russia is also not sickly so funded .... I have the opportunity to supply left "toys" to terrorists for good grannies - I supply, I have buyers for Asian drugs - I buy, I have in mind the relatives of rich Buratin who are on the UK I rent them for a share - I have a percentage of kidnapping. War is a business, at all times it is just a business. ....... what
      1. stalkerwalker
        stalkerwalker 28 March 2013 12: 49
        +5
        Quote: Region65
        War is a business, at all times it's just a business. ..

        That's for sure ....
        "To whom the war, and to whom - the mother is dear ...". (Ensign Dygalo from the "9th company").
  10. Zhzhuk
    Zhzhuk 27 March 2013 08: 03
    +2
    Video from Anna News interview site ....
    1. Zhzhuk
      Zhzhuk 27 March 2013 15: 03
      +6
      climbed on no found news release, maybe someone did not watch
      1. Ermak
        Ermak 28 March 2013 11: 31
        +2
        Gives a girl! Courageous! 5+
  11. Makarov
    Makarov 27 March 2013 08: 05
    +1
    Do not teach me how to live, help me financially .... (C)
  12. Yarbay
    Yarbay 27 March 2013 08: 07
    14
    Wahhabis have no future !!
    1. nokki
      nokki 27 March 2013 08: 20
      30
      Yarbai, the worst thing is that they "undermine" the world not only physically, but also spiritually, distorting Islam, crippling the fate of innocent people! This is the greatest crime and unforgiving sin!
      1. Yarbay
        Yarbay 27 March 2013 08: 26
        17
        Quote: nokki

        Yarbai, the worst thing is that they "undermine" the world not only physically, but also spiritually, distorting Islam, crippling the fate of innocent people! This is the greatest crime and unforgiving sin!

        I know this very well !!
        but I think they are too tolerant everywhere!
        they are peaceful until they feel their strength!
        I must forcefully treat them, I am convinced!
        1. DeerIvanovich
          DeerIvanovich 27 March 2013 11: 51
          +3
          you are even very tolerant, especially considering the transfer of militants including through Azerbaijan to the North Caucasus
          1. Yarbay
            Yarbay 27 March 2013 12: 04
            +1
            Quote: DeerIvanovich

            you are even very tolerant, especially considering the transfer of militants including through Azerbaijan to the North Caucasus


            give the facts !!
            With us they are either imprisoned or destroyed !!
            the truth is there are those who disguise themselves as peaceful, but they are strictly controlled by law enforcement authorities !!
            On the contrary, in recent years, it was from Russia that the militants arrived here, whom we destroyed here !!
            1. Region65
              Region65 27 March 2013 13: 59
              +6
              in short ... it's like rats ... you poison them here - they run to the neighbor, the neighbor starts to poison - they come back to you. Accordingly, Mr. Pu was right - to drench wherever he was caught, and so on until the last fanatic.
          2. Arkan
            Arkan 27 March 2013 12: 49
            +2
            Quote: DeerIvanovich
            especially considering the transfer of militants including through Azerbaijan to the North Caucasus

            Militants from Azerbaijan in the North Caucasus? No. Who told you this? Or maybe they read somewhere ..., don’t remember? smile
            1. Yarbay
              Yarbay 27 March 2013 13: 54
              +5
              Quote: Arkan
              Militants from Azerbaijan in the North Caucasus? Who told you this? Or maybe they read somewhere ..., don’t remember?

              Dear Sergey!
              Perhaps there were thugs from the territory of my country, but talking about purposeful delivery and transfer as the person writes to me is a lie and slander !! Every year, border guards and BB soldiers die in battles with them!
              It was precisely our special forces and border guards who destroyed the two emirs from the territory of Russia !!
              1. Arkan
                Arkan 27 March 2013 14: 38
                +2
                Quote: Yarbay
                Perhaps there were thugs from the territory of my country, but talking about purposeful delivery and transfer as the person writes to me is a lie and slander !! Every year, border guards and BB soldiers die in battles with them!
                It was precisely our special forces and border guards who destroyed the two emirs from the territory of Russia !!

                There are plenty of scumbags everywhere, even in our parliament and in the Russian Duma. But to find out who issues isolated cases (for example, I have never even heard of such cases, though I have never been interested) for the politics of an entire country - probably all the same.
        2. Ruslan67
          Ruslan67 27 March 2013 19: 04
          +4
          [quote = Yarbay] they must be forcibly treated, I am convinced! [/ quote
          Hi Alibek hi And treat better - sulfur or phosphorus wassat
          1. Yarbay
            Yarbay 27 March 2013 23: 18
            +3
            Quote: Ruslan67
            Hi Alibek A treat better - sulfur or phosphorus

            From my work experience I can say that those who have been under their influence for more than a year can be identified in special labor or medical camps where people who really know Islam would re-educate them !!
            And those who are already sick with shaitanism must be destroyed without any pity, but within the framework of the law !!
            1. Arkan
              Arkan 28 March 2013 01: 02
              +1
              Quote: Yarbay
              From my work experience I can say that those who have been under their influence for more than a year can be identified in special labor or medical camps where people who really know Islam would re-educate them !!

              Alibek, it would not be out of place to give your psychologists the opportunity to work with them, in my opinion, the ability to logical thinking of these people has been suppressed, it would be interesting to know how. Are there many drug addicts among them?
              1. Yarbay
                Yarbay 28 March 2013 02: 00
                +2
                Quote: Arkan
                Alibek, it would not be out of place to give your psychologists the opportunity to work with them, in my opinion, the ability to logical thinking of these people has been suppressed, it would be interesting to know how. Are there many drug addicts among them?

                I fought with them for several years while I could serve !!
                The question is not only in logical thinking, they are not just zombies, but zombies with some incredible cunning, can pretend to be what you want !!
                It’s not enough for a psychologist to have a person who knows Islam well!
                To be honest, I didn’t meet drug addicts among them, but I met psychotropic medications in the fighting !!
                Taliban addicts were shown to me in Afghanistan!
                1. Arkan
                  Arkan 28 March 2013 02: 49
                  +1
                  Quote: Yarbay
                  It’s not enough for a psychologist to have a person who knows Islam well

                  Of course, because we are talking about people who call themselves Muslims. Alibek, this is not only a problem of Muslims, there are enough of such people outside the ummah. Little educated (or very busy) people are very easily amenable to suggestion, for example, in a couple of years you can easily drink someone who does not drink at all man and break his life, or drive him into debts ..., it only takes time and the trust of the instilled (it's really not difficult). But convincing a Muslim to kill Muslims ... this infection spreads too quickly to explain this by education or not correct interpretation of the Quran, and the answer to the question "how?" can help in understanding what is happening.
                  1. Yarbay
                    Yarbay 28 March 2013 02: 59
                    +5
                    Quote: Arkan
                    A little educated (or very busy) people are very easy to suggest,

                    Incredible changes are happening to these people !!
                    About 5 years ago I met a classmate, before that I heard that he had contacted these Wahobites!
                    He was very cheerful, cheerful and sensitive companion ... seeing him talking for about 10 minutes I was surprised at the changes in him .. he became gloomy, depressive and clearly not attached to life, his eyes are dull and carries some kind of crap !!
                    Gone from him in upset feelings !!
                    and another classmate turned out to be one of the leaders of the terrorists, they arrested him when I was in shock at all, I was in life !!
                    1. Arkan
                      Arkan 28 March 2013 03: 10
                      0
                      Quote: Yarbay
                      carries some kind of crap !!

                      On the topic of religion?
                    2. Ruslan67
                      Ruslan67 28 March 2013 03: 35
                      +2
                      Quote: Yarbay
                      he became gloomy, depressive and clearly not attached to life, his eyes are dull and carries some kind of crap !!

                      Everything is very characteristic of any totalitarian sect. This is strange for me: why do those who create them and any sect be created artificially for a specific task still have not revived the knightly orders and have not declared a crusade?
                2. Ruslan67
                  Ruslan67 28 March 2013 04: 03
                  +2
                  Quote: Yarbay
                  It’s not enough for a psychologist.

                  ...... the nurse behind and the straitjacket is ready wassat
                  1. Arkan
                    Arkan 28 March 2013 10: 37
                    +2
                    Quote: Ruslan67
                    nurse behind

                    Yes, the orderly is sacred! laughing But seriously, we (the Slavs) also need to pay attention to all "Jehovah's Witnesses", etc.
                    Quote: Ruslan67
                    didn’t revive the knightly orders and declare a crusade?

                    Other times are other methods.
                    1. stalkerwalker
                      stalkerwalker 28 March 2013 17: 05
                      +4
                      Quote: Arkan
                      But seriously, we (the Slavs) also need to pay attention to all "Jehovah's Witnesses", etc.

                      A complete analogy with the stories of Yarbai about Wahhabis.
          2. evgenm55
            evgenm55 28 March 2013 12: 22
            0
            More effective and intelligible - a stake from native aspen ...
    2. lechatormosis
      lechatormosis 27 March 2013 08: 21
      +4
      as long as VAKHABISM is fueled by QATAR'S MONEY, he will continue to co-operate.
      One must understand that Wahhabism is just a tool in the hands of the SAUDITS AND THE USA.
      So the main pressure in the fight against Wahhabis must be exerted on these countries.
      In Syria, the situation is similar - the fighting will be conducted there as long as there is support for bandits from QATAR FRANCE TURKEY USA.
      How to put an end to this is a difficult question.
      Resources for victory over mercenaries at SYRIA ARE LITTLE-need decisive support from RUSSIA and CHINA (not necessarily our soldiers)
      There are plenty of opportunities to annoy these mercenaries, the experience can be shared by the very same Anglo-Saxons (they have centuries of experience in overthrowing governments in foreign countries).
      1. Yarbay
        Yarbay 27 March 2013 08: 30
        +3
        Quote: lehatormoz

        as long as VAKHABISM is fueled by QATAR'S MONEY, he will continue to co-operate.

        the question is not only about money !!
        They always had money !!
        They’re just being advertised in the world now !!
        1. stalkerwalker
          stalkerwalker 27 March 2013 18: 19
          +5
          Quote: Yarbay
          They’re just being advertised in the world now !!

          This is called "network wars" - propaganda virtual wars aimed at the "brains and souls" of young people. Today - the youth in the Middle East. The entire north of Africa knows about the success of these wars.
      2. bord731
        bord731 27 March 2013 10: 40
        0
        Quote: lehatormoz
        the same Anglo-Saxons can share their experience (They have centuries of experience in overthrowing governments in foreign countries).

        Right now, they directly took and shared their experience with you - what are you talking about - what position do arrogant Saxons and horseradish take today?
        1. evgenm55
          evgenm55 28 March 2013 13: 18
          0
          Yes, we don’t want this experience for ourselves, it’s only worth looking into the past, the history of the Cheka-OGPU-NKVD-KGB, recalling the lessons of Sudoplatov, Boyarinov and many others from special services ...
      3. Region65
        Region65 27 March 2013 14: 02
        0
        or maybe in the process of some kind of joint exercises ....... strategic aviation ... or the Strategic Missile Forces troops ... or something else well, as if by chance, quite accidentally drop a nuclear bomb on Qatar ... one, well, or a nuclear missile there ......... well, what? to say later that the technique, they say, failed ... well, or the green soldiers have pressed the wrong button yet ... well, or the fact that Qatar was confused with a training ground in Kamchatka, huh? :)))))) there is this Qatar - one bomb and only memories will remain on the map ... well, the Western "civil" will grumble and calm down))))
        1. Wedmak
          Wedmak 27 March 2013 14: 09
          +1
          Many dream about this. Only then will there be a serious reason to accuse us of the genocide of the Qatari people (or who they are by nationality). Yes, and this dirty business ... to bomb civilian cities. This is the Americans for this specialists.
    3. andrejwz
      andrejwz 27 March 2013 08: 32
      +6
      Quote: Yarbay
      Wahhabis have no future !!

      Is that a mantra? What, not tomorrow, so the day after tomorrow there will be no right and dissenting, poor, stupid and selfish? Evil, feeding on human weaknesses and vices, was and, it is not a pity, will always be with man. The task is only to drive him under the bench and create such rules for the states and the individual, so that he would be afraid to stick his nose out from under the bench.
    4. Botanologist
      Botanologist 28 March 2013 15: 59
      +2
      Wahhabis have no future !!

      Is.
      Just imagine - paradise, food, it is surrounded by 72 virgins .... and DO NOT GIVE !!!
      belay
      1. Yarbay
        Yarbay 29 March 2013 00: 05
        0
        Quote: Botanologist
        Is.
        Just imagine - paradise, food, it is surrounded by 72 virgins .... and DO NOT GIVE !!!

        least of all think about it!
        You have a superficial knowledge of Islam!
  13. Masterzserg
    Masterzserg 27 March 2013 08: 13
    14
    Fascist America systematically, with the hands of fool monkeys, is selected for world domination. Honestly, I think the situation is hopeless: we leave Syria, we will become the next, we will land in Syria, we will be the next, but it will be more convenient for faster and deceitful Americans - they will extradite Russia as an aggressor with imperial ambitions and will fight us at the UN level. I hope our "by secret" they are doing something in Syria, otherwise we can only hope for lines from our anthem:"Native land protected by God!"
    1. DeerIvanovich
      DeerIvanovich 27 March 2013 11: 58
      -2
      well, in the winter of 2013-2014, prerequisites seem to be looming to demolish the current power in our country, regardless of whether it will be pro-Western or pro-Russian, so that our power will somehow polarize now for those who are for Russia and who will be khan, and those who He really believes in his master because of the scourge and hopes that they will not have anything for their support, but all the same, they will have a khan, like waste material.
      This is vividly confirmed by the situation in North Africa with the so-called color revolutions, when in many ways the elite of power loyal to Washington was demolished.
      1. DeerIvanovich
        DeerIvanovich 27 March 2013 13: 51
        -1
        there are prerequisites, this does not mean that it will go according to such a scenario, although the fact that a lot was said six months ago ... but it’s better to brace yourself.
        http://warfiles.ru/show-12856-o-krovavyh-posledstviyah-skrytogo-defolta-eksportn

        o-syrevoy-modeli.html
        1. Director
          Director 27 March 2013 23: 27
          0
          DeerIvanovich
          I DID YOU SO UNDERSTAND sad
          1. DeerIvanovich
            DeerIvanovich 28 March 2013 09: 23
            0
            Capsize is a sign of bad taste, respectively, and it’s difficult for you to understand, since laziness even turns off capslocks, so let’s talk about laziness to think about.
  14. deman73
    deman73 27 March 2013 08: 20
    +3
    We must by all means and means support Syria, including the military
  15. Sasha
    Sasha 27 March 2013 08: 23
    12
    Russia needs to carry out a "peace enforcement" operation jointly with China. And none of them rypnitsya from the west, outraged, of course, but no more.
    P. S. The truth is behind us.
  16. Pavlov A.E.
    Pavlov A.E. 27 March 2013 08: 27
    +4
    While our pulling tires can be worse for us we urgently need to help Syria.
  17. Mareman Vasilich
    Mareman Vasilich 27 March 2013 08: 29
    +9
    Syria is the last frontier of defense. There will be no crossing to the other shore. Syria has already gouged this scum if there had been power in Russia.
  18. Letun
    Letun 27 March 2013 08: 37
    +8
    Does anyone know that ours, apart from moral support, is also helping Syria? I believe that at least the supply of weapons to Assad should be ours. If these cattle on the walls write this, you can’t stay away.
    1. Masterzserg
      Masterzserg 27 March 2013 08: 54
      +6
      Yes, it seems like they bring "repaired equipment", and then who knows. Not everyone speaks. There is such chess, it seems to me ...
  19. Wedmak
    Wedmak 27 March 2013 09: 02
    15
    Assad appealed to BRICS for help. If this request is granted, we will have every reason to form an international peacekeeping contingent. China, India, Russia - this will be enough to crush and clean out all the bandits for six months!
    At the same time: a) BRICS authority will rise very high b) Perhaps we will get another country to this organization c) the onset of the West will be very significantly delayed. In general, if everything is done correctly, the United States and its gang will bite their elbows, yell to the whole world, but they will not be able to do anything.
  20. pa_nik
    pa_nik 27 March 2013 09: 03
    17
    "Assad has proven his undoubted right to remain at the head of Syria for these two monstrous years."

    Definitely, without the support of the population, these two years would not have happened ..

    And yet .. Today the UN showed in the news, there the Syrian opposition was accepted and seated at the table as the only legitimate representative of the country ... recourse Arabs - clapping in boats .. am

    Apparently, without a kick in the ass, really, they won’t calm down ... hi
    1. dmitry46
      dmitry46 27 March 2013 09: 26
      +7
      UN - puppet in the hands of the United States!
  21. SlavaS
    SlavaS 27 March 2013 09: 12
    +9
    The war should not be in Syria, but where its initiators
  22. erased
    erased 27 March 2013 09: 13
    +6
    Damn, for the first time I agree with his every word. But if it is written on the case, then what can I say ?!
    1. Black
      Black 27 March 2013 09: 35
      +1
      Damascus is calmer, more fun, more comfortable, maybe, if not Moscow, then certainly Yekaterinburg,
      And with these? !!
      Well for fun there, for what reason?
      1. Dangerous
        Dangerous 27 March 2013 10: 41
        0
        Well - fireworks and fireworks there every day, so probably!)))
  23. svp67
    svp67 27 March 2013 09: 16
    +4
    And there’s nowhere to retreat, Libya stupidly surrendered, if we can’t help Syria now, then this region may be closed for us for a long time ...
    1. Colonel
      Colonel 27 March 2013 13: 47
      +2
      For a long time ??? Forever!!!
    2. Director
      Director 27 March 2013 23: 30
      +2
      YES THERE ARE THE REGION, WE BECAUSE WE MAY BE CLOSED.
  24. dmitry46
    dmitry46 27 March 2013 09: 22
    0
    I can’t understand one thing. Our BDKs walked off the coast of Syria, well, why not send weapons and equipment to the Syrians, it’s not necessary to send our waxes there, but we need help. Otherwise, all this trash will then come out in the Caucasus. Do not really Putin does not understand this, I doubt very much ..... What is the UN or s afraid of?
  25. Black
    Black 27 March 2013 09: 22
    +5
    What is happening in Syria is the dominant world event.
    1. stalkerwalker
      stalkerwalker 27 March 2013 18: 23
      +4
      Quote: Chen

      What is happening in Syria is the dominant world event.

      Today is the main geopolitical moment of the current history.
      In fact, the fate of the Middle East for the coming decades is being decided.
  26. dmitry46
    dmitry46 27 March 2013 09: 24
    +1
    I can’t understand one thing. Our BDKs walked off the coast of Syria, well, why not send weapons and equipment to the Syrians, it’s not necessary to send our waxes there, but we need help. Otherwise, all this trash will then come out in the Caucasus. Do not really Putin does not understand this, I doubt very much ..... What is the UN or s afraid of?
    1. Masterzserg
      Masterzserg 27 March 2013 09: 27
      +3
      How do you know that you have not "thrown"?
      1. dmitry46
        dmitry46 27 March 2013 09: 33
        0
        100% of course not sure, but I don’t own the info about what they threw too.
        If you have information to share, I will be extremely grateful.
        1. vorobey
          vorobey 27 March 2013 09: 41
          11
          Quote: dmitry46
          100% of course not sure, but I don’t own the info about what they threw too. If you have any information to share, I will be extremely grateful


          Sorry for the harshness, but ... they all rushed to report and spread about where, how, what and how much.

          We only know about three cases when two transport and a plane did not work out.
          So attempts to eat and help?
          1. Ruslan67
            Ruslan67 27 March 2013 19: 07
            +2
            Quote: vorobey
            We only know about three cases when two transport and a plane did not work out.
            So attempts to eat and help?

            This is what lit up and failed About what was hardly reported hi
        2. Masterzserg
          Masterzserg 27 March 2013 09: 46
          0
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        3. Masterzserg
          Masterzserg 27 March 2013 09: 48
          +2
          Type in Yandex.
    2. Bigriver
      Bigriver 27 March 2013 12: 52
      +1
      Quote: dmitry46
      I can’t understand one thing. Our BDKs walked off the coast of Syria, well, why not send weapons and equipment to the Syrians, it’s not necessary to send our waxes there, but we need help. ..... What is the UN or s afraid of?

      And what do you think, what is the United States, France and England afraid of without directly supporting the militants with weapons and equipment?
      Probably afraid of Putin?
  27. zao74
    zao74 27 March 2013 09: 33
    +5
    Good luck to Assad and his fighters, and it is time for our rulers to move from words in support of Syria to real affairs.
  28. Suhov
    Suhov 27 March 2013 09: 35
    11
    Syria now is our Brest Fortress of 1941 model! Despite everything, it keeps and grinds evil spirits from around the world.
    I believe Syria will win !!! and the Empire of Good will be forced to turn to the dentist !!!
    soldier
  29. vladsolo56
    vladsolo56 27 March 2013 09: 36
    +1
    Putin has repeatedly declared to the whole world that Assad is not an ally to him, and that he does not care much about Assad’s fate. Our political elite only humbly hints that they should regret the people of Syria and come to peace talks. However, when the school was shot from mortars, I don’t remember sincere condolences from our government or from the deputies of the State Duma.
    1. vorobey
      vorobey 27 March 2013 09: 47
      +7
      Quote: vladsolo56
      Putin has repeatedly declared to the whole world that Assad is not an ally to him, and that he does not care much about Assad’s fate.


      Language is given to man in order to hide his thoughts.
      N. Machiaveli.

      The enemy can be fought in two ways: firstly, by laws, and secondly, by force. The first method is inherent in man, the second - in the beast.

      He is.
    2. Wedmak
      Wedmak 27 March 2013 09: 50
      +8
      You misunderstood. He did not say that Assad was not our ally, he said that the Syrians themselves should decide something. And there was no talk of any humiliated hint.
      1. vladsolo56
        vladsolo56 27 March 2013 15: 35
        +1
        look through the recordings of his performances in Syria, I didn’t come up with it, it was like that more than once. He clearly and clearly expressed that he was not going to support Assad personally, it all came down to rhetoric about the long-suffering Syrian people.
        1. Director
          Director 27 March 2013 23: 37
          0
          DEAR vladsolo56- I have always been close to your position in your words, but now it seems you have some kind of itch in relation to Putin. Why do not you believe that RUSSIA is trying to help Syria.
  30. vorobey
    vorobey 27 March 2013 09: 37
    13
    All the same, in two years, the attitude to the war in Syria, including among the Soforum people, has changed.

    Hello everybody.

    They no longer shout that we surrendered Syria, there are no Kashchenko clients who shout that the assassin Assad is fighting with his people and there will be no mercy for him in a righteous war. Interestingly, the rhetoric regarding Russian weapons in Syria has changed. Again, the gentlemen of verbiage tempered the intensity of their passions.

    I will not be original again. better to fight in Syria than near Moscow. This I said a year ago. Leontiev summed up my words and opinions of members of the forum who agreed and held the same opinion.
  31. Black
    Black 27 March 2013 09: 41
    0
    Has the Vostok battalion been disbanded?
    I wish he came to the place .....
    1. Ruslan67
      Ruslan67 27 March 2013 19: 10
      +2
      Quote: Chen
      Has the Vostok battalion been disbanded?

      Not only not disbanded, but just like the West can be compared with some teams Only it is intended for internal use And for the external West
  32. PROXOR
    PROXOR 27 March 2013 09: 45
    +2
    Pancake. I have a natural question. What the Anglo-Saxons have in Russia that they hold us for a scam. Because it’s so simple to stand and watch how Syria is actually fighting in our place. The USSR would already be there at least two divisions. In Syrian ports, the unloading of equipment and equipment would already be in full swing. I understand. Russia-even half does not have the power of the USSR. But not so much we are weak? !!!!!
  33. Chavy
    Chavy 27 March 2013 09: 45
    +6
    The position of Russia and China is too diplomatic. Two years of moral support and political position in favor of Syria at the UN. As we can see, the war continues and no new decisions are coming from Syria's allies. And this is bad, the militants are training, the supply of weapons is increasing, the Americans openly support the so-called "rebels". The information war is being played clean, if not for ANNA-news, then we would not really know what is happening there. Russia Today carefully talks about what is happening in Syria, calling the terrorists "rebels". Only one agency besides ANNA calls things by their proper names and reliably covers the course of events in the world and in Syria - Iranian PressTV.
    Such inaction on the part of the so-called allies leads Syria to collapse sooner or later until resources run out.
    1. DeerIvanovich
      DeerIvanovich 27 March 2013 12: 05
      +2
      Syria gives time to prepare for the war, both Russian and Chinese.
    2. Director
      Director 27 March 2013 23: 40
      0
      I agree, but we behave like a puppy whose teeth are still growing. it's time for them to chew a thread am
  34. Net
    Net 27 March 2013 09: 46
    +8
    Is that what prevents Putin and Lavrov from saying the same words from some international platform? They rub in something about dialogue with the opposition, what kind of nonsense? The West firmly and directly supports the rebels and mercenaries, with weapons, words and recognition. And we??? What is this babble about "a peaceful solution to the problem"? Everything that is going on there must be openly called in your own words - an armed rebellion and calls for the overthrow of state power. The Russian people could forgive their rulers anything, except for one thing - weakness.
  35. Kazbek
    Kazbek 27 March 2013 09: 48
    +7
    It is necessary to give money to Northern Ireland so that they also arrange a mess for them and in other countries of the West also find someone to give, let them also feel what war is on their own skin, otherwise democrats have already rummaged.
  36. 1goose3
    1goose3 27 March 2013 09: 56
    11
    Leontiev is a hundred times right. The time of passive support has passed, no need to waste time, the time has come for active support. Syria should not have problems with modern weapons. The West is not shy in this matter, why should Russia be shy. To provide assistance to instructors and military specialists is more likely not so much help as advanced training, the Syrians have something to teach our specialists. Etc. ...
    In response to the cries about "substituting bullets for their children for someone else's land," I will answer that it is better than substituting them for bullets together with the civilian population already on their own land, the enemy is known.
    1. explorer
      explorer 27 March 2013 10: 14
      +1
      including ammunition can be disposed of very efficiently, to test new weapons ... angry
  37. z-exit
    z-exit 27 March 2013 10: 06
    +2
    Well, then we are waiting for news about the results of the meeting of the BRICS countries, which is taking place now (March 26-27). First of all, for me, I would like to hear the results in 2 directions:
    1) Syria's appeal to the BRICS countries on intervention and mutual assistance;
    2) Putin’s proposal to the participants to create an international banking settlement center for the BRICS countries in Moscow.
  38. USSR citizen
    USSR citizen 27 March 2013 10: 12
    +3
    Syria must be helped unambiguously!
    But the DESIRE and DECISION to help Syria is very doubtful.
    leadership of our country. Probably they will fight back themselves.
    Our "ELITE" is more concerned about the state of accounts in Cyprus and the fact that someone somewhere is "robbing the loot".
  39. fenix57
    fenix57 27 March 2013 10: 13
    +3
    Quote: Region65
    .that, in short, would you take in an extremely short time all that half-wild half-ragged trash

    , Ah well done (prolonged applause .....) good
  40. fenix57
    fenix57 27 March 2013 10: 19
    0
    Quote: PROXOR
    What the Anglo-Saxons have in Russia that they hold us for a scam

    , There are many Liberases who divorced who like to listen to the opinion of the same Anglo-Saxons, not forgetting about their pockets.
    1. PROXOR
      PROXOR 27 March 2013 11: 40
      0
      Quote: fenix57
      There are many Liberases who like to listen to the opinion of the same Anglo-Saxons, not forgetting about their pockets.

      I will quote a phrase from one well-known cartoon: "YES ON THE NUMBER OF THEM TO PLANT !!!"
  41. Northerner
    Northerner 27 March 2013 10: 41
    +1
    Good afternoon! Right! I also clapped my hands loudly after Leontyev’s words, how clearly he had arranged everything! What, Daraya will be near Moscow if we do not start helping the Syrians, led by Bashar Al Assad, financially!
    Yours!
  42. elmi
    elmi 27 March 2013 10: 46
    +8
    If America and their satellites sponsor, supply weapons and support the militants in Syria in every possible way and thinks it right, then in return it is necessary to support the enemies of America and their henchmen within their countries: In America, Indians on the reservation - arrange them 2 Syria, In England - IRA and so on. After all, the West did not disdain when it secretly supported the dushmans in Afghanistan, in Chechnya it certainly does. Let them feel the "delights of war" on their own skin, otherwise they are accustomed to fighting with someone else's hands.
    1. Wedmak
      Wedmak 27 March 2013 11: 05
      +4
      We differ from the "enlightened" West in that we do not use dirty tricks in foreign policy.
    2. Northerner
      Northerner 27 March 2013 11: 17
      +3
      I present a story if they put MANPADS to the Taliban! Yes, they would have directed these MANPADS against us and also other dissenting people would have acted! Understand that all these Wahhabis, Taliban, IRA and other rabble projects of special services of the Atlantic Alliance, designed and created for one purpose! The destabilization of the old world order and the destruction of sovereign state powers, and the Necromancers need this because their hands are untied and they are helping their own terrorists (Politics Monroe). In America, the Indians have one name left! The so-called necromancers from P&N Dosia cut them all out at the dawn of the era! And Russia, in addition to the Army and Navy, had no friends left! And then, in the 90s, our government systematically finished off these friends!
      Yours!
      1. Arkan
        Arkan 27 March 2013 12: 35
        +6
        Quote: Northerner
        And Russia, in addition to the Army and Navy, had no friends left!

        Actually, they stayed, only Russia is persistently trying to make them vassals. A simple example: I am Russian, I live in Ukraine, I registered on this site about a year ago and all this time (think about it !!!) I explain to the Russians a simple thing - not in pre-election speeches, Yushchenko didn’t even hint at Ukraine’s entry into NATO in his platform, and how this joke ended (for which he had already performed as president), everyone knows. Since then, not a single Ukrainian politician has stuttered Ukraine’s entry into NATO (that there is, objectively - there is no problem). And there are plenty of such examples! I am sure that the situation with other republics of the former USSR is exactly the same.
        In this regard, I would like to ask you one simple question: who pours this garbage into the ears of Russians because of which we spend so much time talking about nothing?
        1. Northerner
          Northerner 27 March 2013 13: 19
          +1
          Hello Arkan!
          Quote: Arkan
          who the Russians pour in the ears of this garbage because of which we spend so much time talking about anything?


          I think that you yourself answered your question, in particular:
          1. On our problems, politicians are gaining their votes, raising their ratings, and generally speculating!
          2. We ourselves are to blame for this happening, as our passivity provokes power to inaction to the electorate when a problem is brewing!
          3. Russia and Ukraine are one fraternal people that are artificially divided and dominated by a group of certain intriguers, it also holds all the media in black gloves, and the media is a window into the minds of the electorate!
          That's all the problems in three planes!
          Yours!
          1. Arkan
            Arkan 27 March 2013 14: 08
            +2
            Quote: Northerner
            1. On our problems, politicians are gaining their votes, raising their ratings, and generally speculating!

            That's right! But often, politicians creating their own election platform conduct various polls and focus on a very specific electorate.
            Quote: Northerner
            We ourselves are to blame for this happening, as our passivity provokes power to inaction to the electorate when a problem is brewing!

            It is also true that we want something from our neighbors and do not even try to listen to what they want (or we ignore what they say in view of various, often far-fetched reasons). The same is true in relations with the authorities - one and the same person may complain that "a lot of money is spent on defense and the people have nothing to eat ..." and after a couple of years they blame the authorities for the collapse of the army (try to figure out what the people really want ...)
            Quote: Northerner
            Russia and Ukraine are one fraternal people that are artificially divided and dominated by a group of certain intriguers,

            That's right, but in the 80s the people wanted capitalism (reasons are another topic) and got what they wanted. And in the world of capital only intriguers can get out to the top (and this, by the way, is not always bad), now we need to learn to act in such a way that it would be profitable for the "intriguers" to do what we need (this is what we need to think and talk about), but first we need to decide what we want ourselves.
            Quote: Northerner
            she also holds all the media in black gloves, and the media is a window into the minds of the electorate!

            I think this is not entirely true (if we talk about real control and not about nominal), if the authorities of Ukraine or Russia decided to take control of the media, we would learn about this from all Western media literally on the same day ... smile
            With respect!
            1. Northerner
              Northerner 27 March 2013 14: 35
              0
              Quote: Arkan
              I think this is not entirely true (if we talk about real control and not about nominal), if the authorities of Ukraine or Russia decided to take control of the media, we would learn about this from all Western media literally on the same day ... With respect!


              The demonstrative flogging of Gusev (Chairman of the Union of Journalists) partly confirms my words, and partly yours! So, the power allows our media to pour dirt into the consciousness of the electorate, and the dirty consciousness, in turn, enslaves and leads to degradation of the brain, which in turn is beneficial to those in power, since such degradants are easy to manage! But if the media blathers something across the power, then the hedgehog gloves appear immediately! Confirmation of my words, the chronology of bullying Gusev for the past month!
              Sincerely.
              1. Arkan
                Arkan 27 March 2013 14: 52
                0
                Quote: Northerner
                The demonstrative flogging of Gusev (Chairman of the Union of Journalists) partly confirms my words, and partly yours! So, the power allows our media to pour dirt into the consciousness of the electorate, and the dirty consciousness, in turn, enslaves and leads to degradation of the brain, which in turn is beneficial to those in power, since such degradants are easy to manage! But if the media blathers something across the power, then the hedgehog gloves appear immediately! Confirmation of my words, the chronology of bullying Gusev for the past month!
                Sincerely.

                On the one hand, the authorities cannot forbid it to be poured (freedom of speech, all matters ...), on the other hand, if they stepped on a callus and can press someone ... As a result, even the media that were not paid , in the pursuit of sensation, the leadership of the neighbors will pour mud ... (because it’s scary). Such a system has developed both in Ukraine and in Russia ... But I don’t know about the situation with Gusev, (maybe they’re doing the right thing that they press, you never know what is there) you already know better in Russia.
                1. Northerner
                  Northerner 27 March 2013 17: 01
                  +1
                  Respected Arkan
                  Quote: Arkan
                  Such a system has developed both in Ukraine and in Russia ...


                  I am forced to disagree with you a little! So you correctly interpret everything, only there is one maaaalenky BUT! By God, there is nothing more for the Russian media to do except to post Ukrainianophobic articles! How many times have I monitored the media and, so many times have I seen the full 0 (Zirou) that the Ukrainians are supposedly bad or that they are doing something wrong! There is only infa that there is a division into the West and the East, and that is periodically! And in Ukraine, politicians of all stripes, as I see, cling to the Russophobian card and play it on the occasion and without, and how many nationalists got divorced, which is not a fairy tale to describe with a pen! Although they all operate on a carbon copy, starting from the Baltic dwarfs and ending with the Western lads, who are independent!
                  Yours!
                  1. Arkan
                    Arkan 27 March 2013 18: 41
                    +2
                    Quote: Northerner
                    How many times have I monitored the media and, so many times have I seen the full 0 (Zirou) that the Ukrainians are supposedly bad or that they are doing something wrong! There is only infa that there is a division into the West and the East, and that is periodically! And in Ukraine, politicians of all stripes, as I see, cling to the Russophobian card and play it on the occasion and without, and how many nationalists got divorced, which is not a fairy tale to describe with a pen! Although they all operate on a carbon copy, starting from the Baltic dwarfs and ending with the Western lads, who are independent!

                    Yes, the situation is getting worse from year to year, and this is not surprising - if the problems are not solved, their mass will become critical and sooner or later lead to a catastrophe, and this applies not only to Ukraine, but also to Russia. Recently, the Odessa communists gathered a group of volunteers for physical pressure on vandals destroying monuments, called "SMERSH". In Russia, does anyone know?
                    PS I'm sorry to answer late.
        2. Wedmak
          Wedmak 27 March 2013 13: 23
          +2
          Actually, they stayed, only Russia is persistently trying to make them vassals.

          Not vassals, but partners.
          who pours this garbage into the ears of Russians

          Given the disagreement on the Black Sea Fleet issue, the constant and already periodic putting of a pig in the most unexpected places .. your power is likely. It can not decide where to look, to the west or to Russia. I don’t want to argue with you and blame you for something, but here is such an impression ....
          1. Arkan
            Arkan 27 March 2013 14: 29
            0
            Quote: Wedmak
            Given the disagreement on the Black Sea Fleet issue, the constant and already periodic putting of a pig in the most unexpected places .. your power is likely. It can not decide where to look, to the west or to Russia. I don’t want to argue with you and blame you for something, but here is such an impression ....

            Yes, everything is clear, I'm just talking about that personally, we really have nothing to argue about (well, except that someone has a share in Gazprom or Naftogaz or somewhere else ... but there are only a few of them on the website, if at all Ukraine is a mirror image of Russia (with a local flavor, of course), and any accusation against Ukraine in such disputes is always answered with EXACTLY the same accusation against Russia (I don’t even want to give examples - the whole site is littered with them).
            1. Arkan
              Arkan 27 March 2013 15: 33
              +2
              Cartoon: You can understand it in different ways, and you can also relate to its authors in different ways, too, but in my opinion it makes you think.
              1. Zhzhuk
                Zhzhuk 27 March 2013 17: 02
                0
                There is such a way to form complexes,
                namely, a person lives, some psychologists start rubbing him about a disease that he did not know before (or maybe it didn’t exist), as a result, he believes in it and becomes ill.
                Here is an example of how you think up 100 years ago about deviations in the psyche such as non-traditional orientation, how many people knew and asked questions on this topic ??????
                And now there is little vulgarity in films, so politicians talk about it as a question for them, of paramount importance.
                As a result, some shout "for", others - "against", but in fact the child sits while mom and dad are at work and "enlightened" _ the result is stupid advertising at every step, so pink ones appear, ...... . etc.
                The result of this video in my opinion from this series
                1. Arkan
                  Arkan 27 March 2013 18: 11
                  0
                  Quote: Zhzhuk
                  The result of this video in my opinion from this series

                  And you look at what people are arguing about (for example, on this site) and tell me what the authors of the video are, in your opinion, wrong? If possible - as specific as possible.
                  1. Zhzhuk
                    Zhzhuk 27 March 2013 20: 03
                    0
                    I don’t feel the desire of the author of the video to make people better, but I only feel mockery and arrogant laughter.
                    Graphics and voice, the phrase: "your collectively conscious caught" the term is not from kindergarten number 8, the person knows about psychology, This is pure banter and I did not find anything useful.
                    For example, compare with such a person as Konstantin Pavlovich Petrov and if you are not familiar with KOBA (The Concept of Public Security), watch the lectures in particular about "egregors" and you will understand me what it means to want to help people, and not just laugh at them
                    1. Arkan
                      Arkan 27 March 2013 20: 36
                      +1
                      Quote: Zhzhuk
                      I don’t feel the desire of the author of the video to make people better, but I only feel mockery and arrogant laughter.
                      Graphics and voice, the phrase: "your collectively conscious caught" the term is not from kindergarten number 8, the person knows about psychology, This is pure banter and I did not find anything useful.
                      For example, compare with such a person as Konstantin Pavlovich Petrov and if you are not familiar with KOBA (The Concept of Public Security), watch the lectures in particular about "egregors" and you will understand me what it means to want to help people, and not just laugh at them


                      And I think that the author simply stated his vision of our life in the most intelligible language, so that it would become disgusting for us ourselves. Exaggerated of course, but every joke has a fraction of a joke. smile
                      1. Zhzhuk
                        Zhzhuk 27 March 2013 20: 51
                        0
                        There is a hole in the boat, it can go drown, it can be scooped out forever, and it can close up a hole and business. As a call to think, let it come down, but this video can’t change anything globally (I don’t want to make myself an expert and tediously scribble my thoughts, although there’s such a mess in my attic wassat wink )
                    2. Zhzhuk
                      Zhzhuk 27 March 2013 20: 36
                      0
                      I found a video, though not about egregors, but for dating
                2. stalkerwalker
                  stalkerwalker 27 March 2013 18: 33
                  +4
                  Quote: Zhzhuk
                  There is such a way to form complexes,

                  This is called "using the media to shape public opinion."
                  Our forum, in particular, is the same information tool.
                  Today, when there are practically no borders and barriers for electronic information, information wars have begun in the struggle for our thoughts and souls.
                  1. Arkan
                    Arkan 27 March 2013 18: 44
                    0
                    Quote: stalkerwalker
                    This is called "using the media to shape public opinion."
                    Our forum, in particular, is the same information tool.
                    Today, when there are practically no borders and barriers for electronic information, information wars have begun in the struggle for our thoughts and souls.

                    A common, and well-known phrase. And in the video, what's wrong? smile
      2. 1goose3
        1goose3 28 March 2013 15: 05
        0
        And Russia, in addition to the Army and Navy, had no friends left!

        I do not agree. Sorry for the minus. This is to ensure that friends do not need to have friends with friends. If the humpback did not surrender Iraq, in very recent times, I think Russia would not have problems in the Middle East today, and the Arab springs are the same. The position of Russia during the time of Gorbachev and Yeltsin, when they betrayed all the allies, did not add a desire to be friends with her. Syria today may be the last opportunity to prove that it can be dealt with.
        No country in the world without allies, without friends can exist for a long time
  43. cosmos111
    cosmos111 27 March 2013 11: 01
    +5
    To double the supply of arms to Syria. And to send, instructors and advisers., Help counterterrorism fight. To modernize the Syrian tanks,
    1. Oleg Rosskiyy
      Oleg Rosskiyy 27 March 2013 20: 54
      +1
      Quote: cosmos111
      To double the supply of arms to Syria. And to send, instructors and advisers., Help counterterrorism fight. To modernize the Syrian tanks,

      And deliver preemptive pinpoint strikes against the hotbeds of terrorism in the CA and Qatar, as the United States does around the world. There will be a lot of screaming, but some will have an incentive to think about the right lifestyle.
  44. faser
    faser 27 March 2013 11: 09
    +9
    Allah bless Assad,
  45. Garrin
    Garrin 27 March 2013 11: 26
    +1
    Here, in Syria, personnel and infrastructure are actually being formed, gathering all the world trash for war, for the physical destruction of Syria first, and then Iran and Russia

    Eh, that would be where the shooting from "Pinocchio" to hold.
  46. Arkan
    Arkan 27 March 2013 11: 31
    +2
    The dollar would undermine ... smile and then all this mass of trained and armed dolbs will begin to tear their masters (the closer ones). The Wahhabi’s human resource itself is also interesting - hardly more than a few percent of the population is involved in the oil-producing industry of the Middle Eastern monarchies (which has grown significantly in recent years ), and all the oil-producing countries of the region produce hardly more than one France, it seems, among other things, we have the honor to observe the fight against unemployment in the Middle East manner ... laughing Help the Saudis in this noble cause - some sort of scarlet fever for them to cough there for example ... repeat
    1. stalkerwalker
      stalkerwalker 27 March 2013 18: 37
      +4
      Quote: Arkan
      The dollar would undermine.

      The US Federal Reserve, led by Bernanke, is also not without reason eating bread ...
      These guys monitor VERY CAREFULLY all the events taking place in the world, possessing, at the same time, very powerful means (political, financial and military) to influence what is happening in the right places - the Cyprus crisis is proof of this.
      1. Arkan
        Arkan 27 March 2013 20: 59
        0
        Quote: stalkerwalker
        These guys track VERY CAREFULLY all the events taking place in the world

        Very interesting, maybe you know how they do it? Looks like you were interested in this topic.
        1. stalkerwalker
          stalkerwalker 28 March 2013 12: 41
          +4
          Quote: Arkan
          Very interesting, maybe you know how they do it.

          I will not be smart ... fellow
          Reports of the RAND Corporation are published on the internet regularly. They publish, as I understand it, "export" reports for general use.
          There is no doubt that the Fed has "its own" people in all the key financial institutions of the world.
          I’ll just mention Bloomberg.
          And as for the "sent Cossacks" in Russia, you know as well as I do.
          1. Arkan
            Arkan 28 March 2013 15: 16
            +1
            Quote: stalkerwalker
            There is no doubt that the Fed has "its" people in all the key financial institutions of the world.
            I’ll just mention Bloomberg.
            And as for the "sent Cossacks" in Russia, you know as well as I do.

            Well, this is really a well-known fact, but I’m talking a bit about something else. Sometimes, from doing nefig, I look at American sites and comment on articles - ideas to replace the dollar with a different currency and leave the debts of the US government to the US government quite often appear in the comments ... And what the Fed is going to do with this is not clear. As long as they have ordered the Secret Service to monitor the Internet and translate such conversations into jokes, but such a measure can only be temporary.
            1. stalkerwalker
              stalkerwalker 28 March 2013 17: 16
              +4
              Quote: Arkan
              And what the Fed is going to do about it is not clear

              If I at least found out something ....
              Such secrets are protected better than military and commercial.
              The groans about the monstrously huge debt of the United States have been heard far from the first year, but each time a situation is created (artificially?) That Bucks remains afloat, and even with fat. As is the case with Cyprus.
              I will not soar my brains about the relationship between the US Federal Reserve and the Beidelberger Club. The club itself is a semi-mythical phenomenon. But events in the global financial market suggest that Mr. Bernanke will do everything to make the dollar live, the dollar lives, the dollar lives.
              hi
              1. Arkan
                Arkan 28 March 2013 19: 21
                0
                Quote: stalkerwalker
                As is the case with Cyprus

                As for Cyprus - this story can undermine confidence not only in the EU but also in the Western banking system in general (confiscation of part of private deposits is an out of the ordinary case), let’s see how things will develop further. hi
                1. stalkerwalker
                  stalkerwalker 28 March 2013 23: 44
                  +5
                  Quote: Arkan
                  this story can undermine confidence not only in the EU but also in the Western banking system in general

                  It was already written in the "Cypriot" forum that these clever people began to "distort the cards" because there was no other way out.
                  Serious players beat him in the face for that.
                  And finally, card debt is sacred .... laughing
                  But seriously - I think that there will be an imperceptible influence on ALL serious financial institutions in order to compensate for current and possible expenses and losses precisely at the expense of semi-legal, shadow deposits (new rules introduced during the game by skates, if, suddenly, " fuckers "get out of control and withdraw bank after bank).
                  hi
  47. mihasik
    mihasik 27 March 2013 11: 40
    +2
    In my opinion, if Russia really wants to dot the "I", our intelligence needs to collect irrefutable facts of assistance to terrorists by partner countries. After that, with all the facts in the UN, and in the manner of "striped" to achieve or simply declare these countries, terrorist camps. We must not be afraid to call a spade a spade! And if they are a proven terrorist country, then treat them as enemies of "the entire democratic and progressive world"))) up to military action!
    1. Arkan
      Arkan 27 March 2013 11: 48
      +1
      Quote: mihasik
      our intelligence needs to collect irrefutable facts of assistance to terrorists by partner countries. Then, with all the facts in the UN, and in the manner of "striped" to achieve or simply declare these countries, terrorist camps.

      A waste of time and effort, demagogy - this is what the West is based on, they ate more than one dog.
    2. Wedmak
      Wedmak 27 March 2013 11: 54
      +3
      To collect something, we can collect, and to whom should they be presented? The Hague court? So this is one gang. UN? This organization doesn’t solve anything at all, it just waves its concerns .. Well, what for do you need evidence that no one will listen to? And who is the West - everyone has already understood. They can’t do anything yet.
      1. Northerner
        Northerner 27 March 2013 12: 14
        0
        Yes, at least in your own country to correctly cover the information in the media and thereby strike at the 5th column of liberalists who are already festering juvenile homo-pedo and other elements and who are sleeping and see how Russia with its great culture can be made a miserable likeness of this nest of Western debauchery ! For some reason, in the Caucasus, in Dagestan, Wahhabis openly gather and call for jihad against Syria and, accordingly, there is a negative towards all Russians and the authorities silently watch how the new embers of the old conflict are smoldering, now a breeze blows from Central Asia and the embers flare into flames and all these firewood, glaring that they are all brothers and at the same time their level of intelligence leaves much to be desired, will go under the drugs to nearby cities with the Russian-Slavic population! And then the words of Leontyev can be confirmed, and Daraya will come not only in the suburbs! With respect.
        1. Arkan
          Arkan 27 March 2013 12: 40
          +1
          Quote: Northerner
          Yes, at least in your country to properly cover the information in the media

          good good good
          We ourselves would learn to listen to each other! And without emotions, to understand the reasons for the situation, especially in the countries of the former USSR!
    3. Karabin
      Karabin 27 March 2013 12: 11
      +2
      Quote: mihasik
      ...., our intelligence needs to collect compelling evidence of aid to terrorist aiding countries.

      Damn, as if you learned to read yesterday. Supporters do not hide aid to terrorists. It is not difficult to find out the nomenclature and official amount of assistance by working with a search engine.
      Quote: mihasik
      Then with all the facts at the UN,

      Cheaper immediately to the collection point for waste paper and other recyclables.
      Quote: mihasik
      if Russia really wants to dot the "I"

      If I wanted to, I would have set it long ago. What Putin has, what Lavrov has, it is up to himself to cry alone according to the violated international law and the law of the Syrian people. Assad’s unequivocal support and real help to the gut is thin.
  48. d.gksueyjd
    d.gksueyjd 27 March 2013 11: 59
    0
    The US economy can only last if there are local wars in the world. With an astronomical public debt and the main income - exporting dollars, local wars are a donor that supports the United States from default and the collapse of the country!
  49. silver_roman
    silver_roman 27 March 2013 12: 06
    +3
    You need to act very subtly. It seems to me that the tactics of the West are very arrogant and at the same time effective: supplying weapons, financing terrorist cells in Syria and beyond, political support and at the same time denial of the barbaric destruction of a sovereign country. At the same time, everything in the corrupt media is exposed as restoring order and establishing democratic values, which the Libyans, and now the Syrians, were so bored with at one time. I don’t know how our country actually acts in these conditions, but having adopted the enemy’s tactics, namely, stupidly helping everyone Assad can do while denying all this, will be very effective. Although at the same time I’m quite sure that our BDKs are not swimming there for a reason.

    Of course, it was extremely rude to supply advanced systems there, this would have caused a strong resonance, but to modernize the same old t-72s and put in a dynamic. protection, anti-cumulative means would already take a breath of fresh air from the army.
    Blow up some kind of chemical. pitaard next to Tartus and under the guise of defending the base, to shoot from it with high-precision weapons at the centers of the accumulation of "fighters for independence".
    This war is extremely vile and vile, why not use similar tactics for a while? chop off the "head of the snake", beat on command. Because then the "pawns" will be really endless. As in the Second World War, our snipers drenched packs of German officers and it really was a problem for the Nazis !!!
    ps strength and resilience for the Syrian people and their defenders. Courage them and so more than enough!
  50. Egor.nic
    Egor.nic 27 March 2013 12: 10
    +1
    Mikhail Leontiev is right, as always !!! You can’t say better!