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Chinese President Xi Jinping visits Russia as a symbol of recognition of power

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Chinese President Xi Jinping visits Russia as a symbol of recognition of powerRussian President Vladimir Putin is convinced that cooperation between Russia and China on the world stage contributes to global stability and is an example of a balanced and pragmatic approach to solving acute international problems.


Relations between the two countries are experiencing the best period in storiesand the first visit of the PRC Chairman Xi Jinping to Moscow confirms their strategic partnership, Putin said in an interview with ITAR-TASS on the eve of the visit of the PRC Chairman Xi Jinping to Russia.

“Today, Russian-Chinese relations are on the rise and are experiencing the best period in their long history. They are distinguished by a high degree of mutual trust, respect for each other’s interests, support on vital issues, a truly partnership and comprehensive nature,” the Russian president said.

He recalled that the Chinese President Xi Jinping’s state visit to Russia begins today. “The fact that the first foreign trip of a new Chinese leader to our country confirms the special nature of the strategic partnership between Russia and China,” Putin said.

"Russia and China are two influential members of the international community, permanent members of the UN Security Council, one of the largest economies in the world, so the strategic partnership established between us is of great importance both bilaterally and globally," the head of the Russian state said.

"Russia and China are showing an example of a balanced and pragmatic approach to solving the most pressing issues, such as the situation in the Middle East and North Africa, the nuclear problem of the Korean Peninsula, the situation around the Iranian nuclear program," Putin said.

The President expressed his conviction that "the commonality of our approaches to the fundamental issues of the world order and key international problems" has become an important stabilizing factor in world politics. “Within the UN, the G20, BRICS, SCO, APEC and other multilateral formats, we work together to help form a new, more equitable world order, ensure peace and security, uphold the basic principles of international law,” he said. “This is our common contribution to strengthening sustainable global development,” Putin said.

The president added that in the last five years alone, the volume of mutual trade between Russia and China has more than doubled - from 40 billion dollars in 2007 to 87,5 billion dollars in 2012, and China has firmly taken the first place in the list of Russia's trading partners.
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  1. selbrat
    selbrat 24 March 2013 06: 37 New
    +3
    I don’t understand the recognition of whose power? Most likely Chinese. Or our raw material? Listen to the prisoners about the contracts, a tear breaks through. We give them oil and gas, they are rags for us ... what
    1. domokl
      domokl 24 March 2013 07: 55 New
      32
      [quote = selbrat] I don’t understand whose power is recognized [/ quote In politics, the first visit of the new head of state to the most friendly or most promising country at the moment is accepted. This means a visit to Russia shows the whole world who is currently the most important and necessary partner for China
      1. Норд
        Норд 24 March 2013 10: 43 New
        23
        The very fact of the visit is a severe blow to the Fabtington Faberge and it warms the soul.
        And power in the anti-American orientation of Russian-Chinese relations.
        1. Kars
          Kars 24 March 2013 14: 48 New
          +1
          Quote: Nord
          And the power in the anti-American orientation of Russian-Chinese relations

          I wonder what kind of anti-American relations are China, the largest holder of US debt? Do they have territorial claims to the USA?
          1. ia-ai00
            ia-ai00 24 March 2013 17: 07 New
            +2
            So the aMericos can, following the example of the EU in Cyprus, "cut" the amount of debt to China and they will no longer owe so much ...
          2. Норд
            Норд 24 March 2013 18: 45 New
            +1
            Quote: "I wonder what kind of antaamerican relations of China, the largest holder of US debt?"

            You can safely wipe these debt obligations and in China they realize it. Give at least one example of the requirements for payment of American debt securities. And what does the territorial claim. Iran does not have these to the USA, so now it should be attributed to friends of mattresses?
            Syria holds on not least because of the identical (read anti-American) position of Russia and China. Surprisingly, such obvious things need to be explained.
      2. densyaophyng
        densyaophyng 24 March 2013 13: 47 New
        -3
        New ozhiy yuan ruble buy nada
      3. densyaophyng
        densyaophyng 24 March 2013 22: 50 New
        -4
        two chinese

        one chinese one no chinese

        Before two Chinese backside there is no Chinese


        left one no chinese
    2. kris
      kris 24 March 2013 11: 26 New
      +1
      Quote: selbrat
      I don’t understand the recognition of whose power? Most likely Chinese. Or our raw material? Listen to the prisoners about the contracts, a tear breaks through. We give them oil and gas, they are rags for us ...


      Some statistics for the 2001-2011 year.

      By 2011, Russian exports to China almost completely disappeared
      manufacturing industry. The absolute dominance of mineral
      products whose share in Russian exports to China increased from 10,9% in 2001 (share
      Crude oil - 10,2%) to 63,4% in 2011 (share of crude oil - 53,5%); at a cost occurred
      an increase in the supply of this product group to China by almost 28 times. Main factor
      the increase in the cost of supplies of mineral products from Russia to China is an increase
      almost four times the world price of crude oil (see Fig. 1), as well as the growth in its supply
      to the Chinese market from 2 million tons in 2001 to more than 16 million tons in 2011.
      Significant increase in Russian coal exports to China, supply of which increased from 0,4
      million tons (about 3 million dollars) in 2001 g. to more than 10 million tons (1,5 billion dollars) in 2011
      Significant volume in Russian exports (12,3%) also falls on
      Timber industry products: wood and wood products (mainly raw timber), whose share by 2011 compared to 2001 increased from
      7,5% to 9,5% and products of the pulp and paper industry represented in
      mainly cellulose - the share of which decreased from 7,5% to 2,8%. The cost of Russian
      export of timber products to China by 2011 compared to 2001
      increased almost four times (from 1,2 to 4,7 billion dollars), and wood - six times (s
      0,6 to 3,6 billion dollars), and the products of the pulp and paper industry - almost twice
      (from 0,6 to 1,1 billion dollars).
      By 2011, the share of high value-added products (machinery and
      electrical equipment, vehicles) in Russian exports to China
      significantly reduced. If in 2001, the share of machinery and electrical equipment
      amounted to 5%, and land transport, aircraft and floating equipment - 23,5%
      (the main article of Russia's exports to China), then by 2011 the share of these product groups in Russia
      exports to China amounted to 0,4% and 0,08%, respectively
      1. evgenii67
        evgenii67 24 March 2013 13: 03 New
        +5
        Hello everyone! Thank you Michael +!
        Quote: kris
        Some statistics for the 2001-2011 year.

        so what powerful "some of the largest economies in the world"said Mr Putin
      2. saturn.mmm
        saturn.mmm 24 March 2013 21: 39 New
        +1
        Quote: kris
        Some statistics for the 2001-2011 year.

        When they build a refinery in China, Russia will buy gasoline there. It is hard to realize that a country from a scientific and industrial one has turned into a raw materials appendage of the rest of the world. Somehow the military industry holds on, and even then, on the enormous groundwork of the Soviet Union.
        The first time I saw Chinese batteries on sale, which was about 20 years ago, I was very surprised.
    3. NauruS
      NauruS 24 March 2013 18: 28 New
      +1
      okay, what about aircraft engines? billion-dollar contracts for engines alone for the Chinese version of the Il-76 is not enough? + Moved for Sushki Chinese Prospect Island !! Or do you think it is also "raw material"?
      1. kris
        kris 24 March 2013 19: 18 New
        0
        Quote: NauruS
        okay, what about aircraft engines? billion-dollar contracts for engines alone for the Chinese version of the Il-76 is not enough? + Moved for Sushki Chinese Prospect Island !! Or do you think it is also "raw material"?


        Russian
        export of vehicles (mainly engines and parts of aircraft, new
        military and used civilian aircraft) decreased from 1,9 billion to 2001
        to 32 mln. dollars in 2011 g., and machinery and equipment - from 400 mln. dollars in 2001 g. to 150 mln.
        dollars in 2011
      2. evgenii67
        evgenii67 24 March 2013 20: 23 New
        +1
        Quote: NauruS
        oh well, and engines for aircraft?

        we are talking about non-military goods, but here we have nothing to offer the Chinese except raw materials (oil, gas, timber, minerals), in principle, as elsewhere crying about engines for aircraft (they can assemble them, only the resource is still small), they have already learned how to make planes and normal engines will learn, it can’t last forever
  2. VadimSt
    VadimSt 24 March 2013 06: 59 New
    10
    An old friend is better than two new ones. Let us hope that the pages of the history of our relations before 1949 and the crisis 1953 - 1969 are turned upside down and forgotten.
    Together, we present an iron nut for the fangs of any dominant in the world.
    1. domokl
      domokl 24 March 2013 07: 58 New
      11
      Quote: VadimSt
      Together, we present an iron nut for the fangs of any dominant in the world.
      That’s why the world media claimed that the joint actions of Russia and China practically paralyzed the aggression in Syria, for example ... And the visit showed that this was not an accident, but a focused policy of Russia and China ...
    2. Reddragon
      Reddragon 24 March 2013 09: 52 New
      -5
      They want to "return" their "own" territories. If they ask, then they are strong
    3. Nick
      Nick 24 March 2013 17: 21 New
      +1
      Quote: VadimSt
      Together, we present an iron nut for the fangs of any dominant in the world.

      I would even say that the Russian-Chinese alliance would become a global dominant abruptly NATO.
      1. Tektor
        Tektor 25 March 2013 12: 48 New
        0
        Quote: Nick
        Quote: VadimSt
        Together, we present an iron nut for the fangs of any dominant in the world.

        I would even say that the Russian-Chinese alliance would become a global dominant abruptly NATO.

        Close. The strategy for survival in the near future is being decided in the present in the triangle of states - China - Russia. The unity of the political and economic interests of any couple leads a third party to the brink of geopolitical survival. States proposed China G2. After several years, Chinas made a choice not in favor of this G. The confrontation of the Russian Federation + China (SCO + BRICS) against the Anglo-Saxon world begins. Now it will be decided which side of the story will be correct.
  3. lechatormosis
    lechatormosis 24 March 2013 07: 03 New
    +1
    WHAT is there to admit - the Chinese are not fools and are not engaged in any garbage.

    The Chinese have no friends, only fellow travelers and competitors.

    The Chinese are like a cat walking on its own.
    1. vladsolo56
      vladsolo56 24 March 2013 07: 27 New
      +7
      You shouldn’t be so. If China recognizes someone else, then it is for real. Of course, from ancient times it was believed that even enemies should smile, so as not to reveal their true intentions. Only who will argue that Russia is a reliable friend, betrayed Cuba, betrayed Serbia, the same North Korea, the social countries of Eastern Europe also betrayed, so do not say that we are such devotees and everyone around us is traitors.
      1. selbrat
        selbrat 24 March 2013 07: 37 New
        +4
        Quote: vladsolo56
        You shouldn’t be so. If China recognizes someone else, then it is for real.

        And it seems to me that you are in vain. I watched the show on TV. There, the Chinese leader himself said, "You laugh, we Chinese people, they say, cannot be trusted. Such a nation. We say one thing, we think another." so they say ... In general, all Asians cannot be trusted, cunning.
        1. svp67
          svp67 24 March 2013 08: 43 New
          +5
          Quote: vladsolo56
          You are so. If China recognizes someone else, then it is for real. Of course, from ancient times it was believed that even enemies should smile, so as not to reveal their true intentions. Only who will argue that Russia is a reliable friend, betrayed Cuba, betrayed Serbia, the same North Korea, the social countries of Eastern Europe also betrayed, so do not say that we are such devotees and everyone around us is traitors.



          Fact, nothing to blame on the mirror ....
          1. zao74
            zao74 24 March 2013 21: 11 New
            0
            Not we betrayed, but Judas in power. It all started with a spotty!
        2. zao74
          zao74 24 March 2013 21: 09 New
          +1
          Enemies all around, no one can be trusted!
      2. lechatormosis
        lechatormosis 24 March 2013 08: 50 New
        0
        yes, you are right about OUR POLITICAL GOVERNANCE.
        It rushes from one extreme to another.
        Therefore, I think that the Chinese with such an inconsistent friend are unlikely to become friends FOR THIS.
      3. Botanologist
        Botanologist 24 March 2013 10: 45 New
        +6
        so it’s not worth asserting that we are such devotees and all around are traitors.

        The question is different. America is now fueling tensions in Asia, and China is the main target. Just because weakening China, America gets rid of both debt and competitor. Therefore, China has nowhere to run but to Russia. And we also have nowhere to go - Europe began to crumble, with the USA we were never well. So we are strengthening China so that it can withstand the Asian war. And it’s good for us - we bind Japan and the USA with the wrong hands, and it’s good for China — we will help both with oil and weapons. In extreme cases, we will not let the abyss completely.
        1. hrych
          hrych 24 March 2013 18: 10 New
          +3
          If the EU crumbles, it doesn’t mean Europe, there are reliable partners in the person of Germany, Austria, Italy, etc. It is from the structures of the EU, Russia that one guano, in the form of libel in the Council of Europe and the European Court. Vsezh, let's separate the EU from Europe, most of which is located in the Kiev state, Belarus, Serbia and Russia, which, thank God, are not included in the EU.
      4. Anti
        Anti 24 March 2013 12: 31 New
        +5
        Quote: vladsolo56
        Only who will argue that Russia is a reliable friend, betrayed Cuba, betrayed Serbia, the same North Korea, the social countries of eastern Europe also betrayed


        Russia is me, you and all citizens living on its territory. We did not betray anyone. The "elite" ruling at that time betrayed their names to everyone.
        1. Hudo
          Hudo 24 March 2013 13: 37 New
          +2
          Quote: Anti
          Russia is me, you and all citizens living on its territory. We did not betray anyone. The "elite" ruling at that time betrayed their names to everyone.


          Everything, you, write absolutely correctly. Only one "BUT" - that hit list, which you named by putting the word "elite" in quotation marks, put a stain of betrayal on everyone. And we will have to wash it off.
      5. ia-ai00
        ia-ai00 24 March 2013 17: 13 New
        +2
        This is a minus to the Russian government, and first of all to the traitors not only of these countries, but also of their country - to the Humpbacked and drunk Eltsin.
      6. Nick
        Nick 24 March 2013 17: 26 New
        +1
        Quote: vladsolo56
        Of course, from ancient times it was believed that even enemies should smile, so as not to reveal their true intentions. Only who will argue that Russia is a reliable friend, betrayed Cuba, betrayed Serbia, the same North Korea, the social countries of eastern Europe also betrayed

        Those who betrayed, betrayed, first of all, their homeland, the Soviet Union-Russia, further on the rise ...
    2. domokl
      domokl 24 March 2013 08: 01 New
      +3
      Quote: lehatormoz
      The Chinese are like a cat walking on its own
      The Chinese, like Russia or the United States, conduct their own policy ... This is a great country, this is a country that has the right to independence .. And it’s normal when such countries are partners. How would you react if Russia or the United States became to creep in front of someone?
      1. lechatormosis
        lechatormosis 24 March 2013 08: 53 New
        +3
        I AGREE — friendship in politics is a relative and impermanent thing.
        There are plenty of cases of betrayal in modern political history of both RUSSIA, EUROPE and the USA.
    3. APASUS
      APASUS 24 March 2013 09: 07 New
      +9
      Quote: lehatormoz
      WHAT is there to admit - the Chinese are not stupid and are not engaged in any garbage. The Chinese have no friends, only fellow travelers and competitors.

      China is trying to build its relationship with Russia in order to cover its rear !!!
      They understand that becoming the first economy in the world and not colliding with the interests of the United States will not work. Therefore, they themselves offer friendship to Russia, faster than the United States will drag us to its side!
      China does not want Russia to stick a knife in his back - when they will butt with the USA !!!!
      1. avt
        avt 24 March 2013 09: 23 New
        +2
        Quote: APASUS
        China is trying to build its relationship with Russia in order to cover its rear !!!

        Perhaps not only, there is a whole bunch of interconnected problems from the disputed islands, Syria and energy supplies.
        Quote: APASUS
        They understand that becoming the first economy in the world and not colliding with the interests of the United States will not work. Therefore, they themselves offer friendship to Russia, faster than the United States will drag us to its side!

        Yes, in the absence of a structure like the Fed, no one will become the world's first economy. At the expense of friendship, you got excited, business, only business and nothing personal. But it's good ! At least everything is clear without the quirks of the former Soviet republics about the "colonialists" and the "older brother", when this brother either has to go far away when demanding to take into account his interests, or he owes something, usually money, since he is an elder ...
        1. Vladimirets
          Vladimirets 24 March 2013 10: 12 New
          +3
          Quote: avt
          Yes, in the absence of a structure like the Fed, no one will be the first economy in the world.

          What does the Fed have to do with it? I don’t see logic.
          1. sergius60
            sergius60 24 March 2013 12: 54 New
            +2
            This means the possibility of realizing the status of "world currency".
            1. avt
              avt 24 March 2013 14: 22 New
              +2
              Quote: sergius60
              This means the possibility of realizing the status of "world currency".

              good Exactly . Moreover, the calculation in the sovereign with each other still goes in relation to the dollar. And any deviation is punished very harshly. Gaddafi is a vivid example of his idea of ​​a gold dinar, and Mubarak also showed interest in this topic.
              1. Vladimirets
                Vladimirets 24 March 2013 15: 45 New
                +2
                Quote: sergius60
                This means the possibility of realizing the status of "world currency".

                Quote: avt
                Moreover, the calculation in the sovereign with each other still goes in relation to the dollar. And any deviation is punished very harshly

                Well, these are questions of foreign policy in general and the Fed itself is very mediocre. If the same China wants to bring down the dollar, then it does not need any Fed.
              2. hrych
                hrych 24 March 2013 18: 15 New
                +2
                This is, as in Krylov’s fable:

                ... You are to blame for the fact that I want to eat. "- Said and dragged the Lamb into the dark forest.
            2. Nick
              Nick 24 March 2013 17: 52 New
              +1
              Quote: sergius60
              This means the possibility of realizing the status of "world currency".

              The Bretton Woods currency system created in the 1944 year gave the status of the world currency to the dollar and its continuation - Jamaican currency system 1976-1978. The beneficiary from the introduction of this currency system was, first of all, the USA, as the most powerful participant in the military-political and economic plan. The US Federal Reserve is just an issuer, but an issuer of an international means of payment. Hence the US Bonuses from this global monetary system. You release green cut paper, and in return you get all the necessary resources.
      2. sergius60
        sergius60 24 March 2013 12: 52 New
        0
        Absolutely correct observation. Classic "triangle" :-)
  4. Zhzhuk
    Zhzhuk 24 March 2013 07: 03 New
    +1
    selbrat Today is March 24th, you have 24 regions on your avatar - Krasnoyarsk, I understand the signs sly Chinese want to capture Siberia, I'm not crazy, well, maybe a little bit wassat (no offense)
    1. selbrat
      selbrat 24 March 2013 07: 39 New
      +2
      Quote: Zhzhuk
      Selbrat Today is March 24, you have 24 regions in your avatar - Krasnoyarsk, I understand the signs the cunning Chinese want to capture Siberia, I'm not crazy well maybe a little bit wassat (no offense)

      Yes, what insults laughing .Although it is (with Siberia). Question of time. They simply have nowhere to go. Even drinking water is not enough.
      1. mark1
        mark1 24 March 2013 08: 37 New
        +3
        The Chinese are unlikely to take anything from us, rather, they will take what we simply drop out of our hands (but we hope that our hands will not weaken)
        1. selbrat
          selbrat 24 March 2013 15: 17 New
          +3
          Quote: mark1
          The Chinese are unlikely to take anything from us, rather, they will take what we simply drop out of our hands (but we hope that our hands will not weaken)

          Well, of course it’s unlikely that they will be. But it’s a quiet glander. There’s an outflow of our population from the Far East. And the Chinese are populating. They showed a film about this, they say in that region, a bunch of deputies and leaders of the regtal, have long been elected and live on Chinese money Such things. And here they’re minus me. They all believe in some kind of friendship. And the leader came to them just because they need us at this stage. Then they use them as a condom and throw them away.
      2. botur
        botur 24 March 2013 10: 39 New
        +9
        And time is running out, and there are more and more Chinese. lol
        1. 123dv
          123dv 24 March 2013 19: 16 New
          +1
          It's ridiculous of course, but on this side, where a man swims, you need to add ice floes, snow, and steam from the water ....
          And on that side of the palm tree in the distance and the sand on the beach ...
  5. vladsolo56
    vladsolo56 24 March 2013 07: 22 New
    +4
    Today, China is the only reliable partner and ally; it is worth orienting oneself in it in international politics.
    1. ultra
      ultra 24 March 2013 14: 29 New
      +7
      Quote: vladsolo56
      Today, China is the only reliable partner and ally,

      Well, you are an idealist! As long as it is profitable for China, it will talk about "eternal" friendship, it will not be profitable, will forget about friendship at that very moment! hi
  6. Guun
    Guun 24 March 2013 07: 28 New
    +6
    A strong enemy may not notice how it will unite two opponents against itself, the United States and the West unwillingly push Russia and China towards rapprochement, then they transfer them to idiotic missile defense in the geyrop and then transferred to the Pacific Ocean zone, then divorce the Middle Eastern states and overthrow legitimate governments and many many shit. Personally, I am for China to be with us and not against us.
    1. vladsolo56
      vladsolo56 24 March 2013 10: 27 New
      +2
      In fact, the history of relations between Russia and China goes deep into antiquity, and there has never been a war between the two countries, except for the 1969 conflict. And even then because of the stubbornness and stupidity of the leadership of the USSR.
      1. sergius60
        sergius60 24 March 2013 13: 30 New
        +1
        The concept of chronology "from the creation of the world", 7521 now by the way, does not imply the "creation" of the world by the Creator, but the signing of a peace treaty between the Aryans and the yellow race in the "Star Temple". So 7.5 thousand years is not a pound of raisins.
    2. sergius60
      sergius60 24 March 2013 13: 22 New
      +1
      According to the decisions of the last congress of the Communist Party of China, "attempts to drive a wedge into good-neighborly relations between the PRC and Russia" are equated to ... blah-blah-blah, the most terrible horror !!! ... Remember our glorious 30s. For the "slow-witted" we HAVE Siberia, China HAS the Sinzyan-Uygur Autonomous Okrug. GY. While on the "ball" there is Iya and Geyropa, for games of "triangles" - our eastern borders will be guarded by China. If they come back, then you have to scratch the "turnip" strongly.
  7. Vorchun
    Vorchun 24 March 2013 07: 28 New
    +2
    If a Chinese goes to Russia, then he needs something.
  8. skrgar
    skrgar 24 March 2013 07: 52 New
    +7
    Even if China, well, suddenly, is a future enemy .. then I will at least respect this enemy .. And contempt is one and unshakable .. for me .. to .. England is the most disgusting enemy for Russia .. and not "for periods ".. and practically throughout history from RH ...
    1. Nayhas
      Nayhas 24 March 2013 08: 57 New
      0
      Those. no complaints against Scotland and Northern Ireland? ...
      1. ultra
        ultra 24 March 2013 14: 31 New
        +3
        Quote: Nayhas
        Those. no complaints against Scotland and Northern Ireland? ...

        Will leave the "small britain" then no! lol lol lol
  9. zemlyak
    zemlyak 24 March 2013 08: 26 New
    0
    A symbol of recognition of power .... Which one? Military? Especially in the Far East .... Or economic? About the "pipe" economy tired of talking. We all want to pass off wishful thinking. China needs an ally, and that says it all. China consciously and openly offered Russia the creation of a military-political alliance directed against America. What will Russia say now? Nothing, I'm afraid.
    1. lechatormosis
      lechatormosis 24 March 2013 08: 56 New
      +3
      Of course, now RUSSIA needs to use every opportunity to make friends in the WORLD.
      CHINA we need as a reliable neighbor.
      I hope that the Chinese will not have MORE against RUSSIA territorial claims like DAMAN ISLAND
    2. mark1
      mark1 24 March 2013 08: 57 New
      +2
      But I think Russia said YES
  10. 120352
    120352 24 March 2013 09: 40 New
    0
    Now we will lay works for them, then they will want to protect them themselves. Will introduce troops. 20km to the left of the pipe + 20 km to the right of the pipe. Here you have the dismemberment of Russia, and the bridgehead for conducting further hostilities. And the logic is very simple: our pipe and we protect it, and since we protect, why the hell we will pay someone else for our pipe!
    1. mark1
      mark1 24 March 2013 09: 51 New
      +1
      And why should they now get into such a whore. This scenario will work only in the event of the collapse of the country, but I think that the Chinese will not be the first either, there will be gentlemen who want to "keep the pipe" and take mother Siberia into their hands
  11. Anti
    Anti 24 March 2013 09: 40 New
    +1
    There is no ally China of Russia, allies two army and navy. Another thing is the event as a message to the West, so as not to bother pushing the two countries against each other, and therefore were fixed by all kinds of agreements and treaties.
    1. vladsolo56
      vladsolo56 24 March 2013 10: 35 New
      +1
      Alexander III, of course, expressed himself beautifully, but without allies politics is impossible. So do not push away the hand of a friend, for fear that he will betray. And then why should China not think the same about Russia.
      1. Anti
        Anti 24 March 2013 11: 44 New
        0
        They just didn’t push the hand away, they accepted it. Rather, they are at this stage fellow travelers in interests than allies, why do you think that China does not think so?
      2. ultra
        ultra 24 March 2013 14: 57 New
        +1
        Quote: vladsolo56
        Alexander III, of course, expressed himself beautifully, but politics is impossible without allies

        As I think the ALLIANCE and FRIEND are different concepts! hi
  12. radio operator
    radio operator 24 March 2013 09: 46 New
    +2
    I, of course, with two hands for mutually beneficial cooperation.
    Only one thing annoys us is the raw materials there (mainly), and from there the goods. It’s good that round timber is prohibited from exporting from the country.
    We remain a raw materials appendage. It is not the Chinese who are to blame, of course, but we ourselves.
    1. mark1
      mark1 24 March 2013 10: 57 New
      0
      As far as I have heard, the Chinese are ready to assist us in the construction of gas chemical plants in Siberia and the Far East, coal gasification, it is clear that they will mainly try for themselves, but in general for the development of our territories this is a big plus
    2. hrych
      hrych 24 March 2013 18: 28 New
      +2
      Radio operator, barter is not in fashion right now. If the Chinese are buying raw materials from us, then for money, which incl. go to the construction of Boreev, the purchase of modern machines in Japan and Germany. And if China buys airplanes and jet engines from us, it does not mean that we are a raw materials appendage. And believe me, the plane is the pinnacle of scientific and technological progress, not a fucking iPhone, much less crooked cowards. And if they somehow managed to copy the glider, stick their own and Israeli avionics, but the engines didn’t wipe them for twenty years and didn’t.
  13. stranik72
    stranik72 24 March 2013 10: 22 New
    0
    lechatormosis
    “Of course, now RUSSIA should use every opportunity to win friends in the WORLD. We need CHINA as a reliable neighbor.
    I hope that the Chinese will not have any more territorial claims to RUSSIA like the DAMAN ISLAND. "
    What are you talking about, which friends are only INTERESTS, especially friends they’re not being conquered, China will have a claim to us until we again become stronger than them, in quality, the army and the people.
  14. SPACE
    SPACE 24 March 2013 10: 37 New
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    "Visit to Russia of President of the People's Republic of China Xi Jinping as a Symbol of Recognition of Power"
    Clearly, the two strongest economies came to a mutual contradiction between China and the United States. But the US economy has an advantage over China in the sun. Therefore, China really needs Russia’s support. including and military. And whoever would say anything, and especially all kinds of liberal democrats, the military power of Russia, despite 20 years of mistakes and collapse, is the only one who is the guarantor of lawlessness. It is IMPORTANT not to stop military construction, but with common sense.
    In general, the existence of Russia and its people, including the oligarchs, liberals, democrats, red and white, rich and poor, smart and fools, is directly dependent on the state and combat effectiveness of the strategic nuclear forces, the armed forces, the navy, the air forces and the military-industrial complex. They will devour the weak in the forest ... That's why they come to us and invite us to all kinds of parties, Russia is a self-sufficient country, IT IS ALL AND IT CAN, would be desire and will. Whoever they are without Russia, zeros without a wand, and Berezovsky is a direct confirmation of this.
  15. Mikhail3
    Mikhail3 24 March 2013 10: 53 New
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    What an interesting uncle ... I thought they killed almost everyone. And here it is. not only such people are alive, but have reached the highest posts! Such a surprise...
    The Chinese have never been the same for me. I have long noted that this type of physiognomy is the Chinese aristocracy, the most intelligent and powerful. Here they were mainly drenched under socialism in various ways. Actually, they always tried to wet them, such was the fate of the aristocracy, but under Mao they completely torn them from power and tried to destroy them.
    And look ka - again in power, on a horse so to speak! I envy China, to save them and call them again to the helm - this is a huge success for their country.
  16. Dmitry 2246
    Dmitry 2246 24 March 2013 11: 38 New
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    35 years as China follows the path of accelerated economic development. Over the years, he managed to bring about 400 million people out of poverty, enabling people to grow.
    At the same time, China has problems like ours, only a multiple of 10: corruption, crime, relations with neighbors, problems of an economic nature, still poverty, a fantastic stratification of society.
    Therefore, having good neighborly relations is a blessing. Happiness is a stable trading partner. The prospect of the northern trade route - economy and safety. Military cooperation is a chance to avoid any "opium war".
    Can the Chinese solve their problems by interacting with a weak Russia?
  17. luka095
    luka095 24 March 2013 12: 11 New
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    The visit of the new PRC chairman to Russia is a positive fact. Of course, China has its own interests that are different from the interests of Russia (like Russia has its own). But countries cooperate not on the basis of different interests, but on the basis of mutual benefit. China has problems in the world, and Russia has enough of them. If there is an opportunity to solve them together - well.
    Russia sells energy to China - it’s good, it brings money to the country, gives work to many (if there are resources, they must be used). Another thing is how this money is managed in Russia itself ...
    But someone recognizes the possibilities of Russia, or not, it doesn’t matter. It is much more important that these opportunities are and increase ...
  18. homosum20
    homosum20 24 March 2013 13: 30 New
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    According to the established international diplomatic tradition, the first foreign trip of the country's leader determines the priorities of the country's development and movement. Realizing that the US strategy - the blockade of China - can only be foiled by one country, Russia, Xi Jinping made a choice for China.
    Naturally, this does not mean that we will kiss passionately. This means choosing a global geopolitical partner.
    Well, as for the structure of mutual deliveries - whoever has what is what supplies them. This is a reality and it does not depend on the wishes or recipients.
  19. Old skeptic
    Old skeptic 24 March 2013 13: 39 New
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    The conflict between China and the United States will significantly correct the demographic situation in China itself, and ruin the US rival. Russia is needed in order to insure the rear and of course as a resource base (material and intellectual). China does not need Siberia, we have a coldly poorly developed infrastructure, if they would like to take Siberia they would be there before Ermak. China looks to Southeast and Central Asia, as well as to Africa. Why run into Russia with a nuclear club and crazy Russians, when you can make friends with it and have a big black continent (no less rich and much warmer, and therefore less energy-intensive) with relatively few aborigines and turn it into yellow.
    1. 123dv
      123dv 24 March 2013 19: 23 New
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      And in case of victory, in conflict with the ShA, you can simply move the whole village to the North American continent, and that's it
  20. toldanger
    toldanger 24 March 2013 13: 45 New
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    Let's see what will happen next with the relations between the two countries
  21. nickname 1 and 2
    nickname 1 and 2 24 March 2013 13: 55 New
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    I do not believe!

    And I trust my intuition! Well, life in China is not so easy! As in every family with many children! A special "climate" in a large family, and therefore in China - a special "climate"!

    Be friends!
  22. sichevik
    sichevik 24 March 2013 15: 09 New
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    Friendship is friendship, but gunpowder needs to be kept dry. The Chinese have never been friends with anyone, but merely partners or fellow travelers. And now they need us only to confront America.
    We need to be friends with China with caution. and most importantly ---- you need to arm yourself, arm yourself and arm yourself a lot more times. Then everyone will want to be friends with us.
  23. ruton
    ruton 24 March 2013 16: 13 New
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    It seems to me that China will test the United States for strength in the conflict with Japan. And here the Koreans still make strange porridge .. But in any case, China has no reason to conflict with someone, they will try to come to an agreement with everyone. And the fact that we are raw materials to them, so if we can no longer supply them with anything ... request , and denyuyozhechki oh how we need ..
    Or raw materials or weapons, but selling weapons to them is just too much.
    And China will not fight with us, what's the point? if they agree on everything. raw materials flow to them, their poverty brings us to work, what else is needed? hi
  24. Fregate
    Fregate 24 March 2013 17: 16 New
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    Better to have friends on the side (in space) smile ), looking at world politics. But it is better that we and the PRC share the United States than the United States and the PRC will divide us smile . Although who knows, maybe they will strangle each other in this case. In general, rely on others, but don’t be bad.
  25. varyag
    varyag 24 March 2013 21: 54 New
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    Friendship with a continental border neighbor like China should be an end in itself. How can you build trust? Question. These are always reciprocal counter moves - on this we will check with the Celestial Empire. But the understanding of Russia and China that they are preparing for something overseas! We must not forget that there are decisive "chosen by God" and Anglo-Saxon arrogance, by the way, in this capacity, it has never lost. They have met in history with a firm rebuff. True, before this new story, only they had a bottomless wallet and bombs. And this was the basis for any "fifth column" in the enemy camp. I am sure that they will now follow this path. And we will meet them here! With our poplars and the Chinese yuan.
  26. pinecone
    pinecone 25 March 2013 02: 06 New
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    What kind of "symbol of recognition of power" can we talk about when a person just came to see how it is here and what is there. Like a fair, buy something, sell something, ask the price, bargain. Then he will go somewhere else.
  27. Tartary
    Tartary 25 March 2013 05: 40 New
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    Guys, what's the mess in my head?
    Keep the gunpowder dry, etc., just like in the joke about the Chinese names - "Sun * Fuck * Vchay, Take out Su Him ???????
    Problems with China were after the death of Stalin, while Mao, who really wanted a common country led by Mao ... But Stalin in the late 40s dismissed his claims-offers, and Mao waited ... But he did not wait ... Ghouls in led by Khrushchev killed Stalin, for which Mao and built a negative relationship with the USSR ... But this negativity was local - Damansky, about. Hanka and a few more on the western borders ...
    The Chinese, if they do not have such a mentality as the Russians, but are quite adequate guys. Especially in the territory of the Far East there are quite a few of them living, but for 20 years they could not provoke any kind of sharp negative attitude towards themselves, in contrast to our little brothers from the USSR-Asia and the Caucasus ...
    In front of a big danger (obvious danger), grumpy neighbors always come together to protect their HOUSE, street, village, city, country (s) ... Aposlya again begin to grumble at each other and at times do nothing easy ... That's why they and neighbors ...
    The most dangerous of all are alien "guests" who are not interested in well-being in your HOUSE - to quarrel, to rob, to have what is not on their land, to ruin and lie in their den licking the blood from their paws ...
    And what about the North Koreans? Koreans exist on a common shore ...
    They exacerbate the situation, showing future uninvited "guests" that there is no chance for them here, that one of the neighbors has already loaded a Berdan gun ...

    So the motto is "Russian and Chinese - Brothers forever!" has already been living for a bunch of years and will live for a very long time ...
    And how long? Today it depends on all of us, then our descendants on both sides of the border ...
    NO PASSARAN!

    Long live the strong century-old union of Russia and China !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    India is on the way ...

    So, it’s good to throw empty negative epithets at the top officials of friendly peoples and countries. It only sows insecurity in the minds and souls that can come back to life with a wild echo - then you won’t be able to surrender ...
    Calm down when writing letters on the "entrance" wall - your neighbors are reading you!
  28. Barmen
    Barmen 25 March 2013 18: 01 New
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    Sorry, I didn’t read the comments .. I say, what I think on the move. and in the spring of 2007 is that ???? --- kick to the Chinese ??? Like we are here, but do not forget. This is understandable. The fact that they are trying to pit us is also clear .. But I can’t understand ...... What kind of screen was it when we met and talked between representatives of two powers ??? ..... Something here they stir up ... I hope in a positive way. I live 30 km from China myself. And here everything is normal. IMHO.