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"It will be enough!"

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No sooner had the fanfare died down about the fact that the Tajik authorities allowed Russia to extend the tenure of the 201 military base in the republic from 2014 to 2042, we didn’t have time to rejoice at how friendly the curtsy towards the Russian Federation beckoned from the fraternal Dushanbe, the message that crumpled our turbulent emotions.


It turned out that the Tajik parliament, you understand, cannot ratify the agreement with Russia on the extension of the terms of stay of the Russian military base in the Pamirs. What does the Tajik parliamentarians interfere with? Perhaps the Pamir radiant sun baked their heads, or the smell of burning Afghan plantations clouded the mind ... But no! Official Dushanbe states that the reasons for delaying the ratification procedures lie in the fact that initially the Tajik authorities simply miscalculated. Representatives of the Tajik political elites, as they today believe, during their talks with guests from Moscow, asked these same guests too few preferences for the base for about 30 years to operate in the territory of the Republic of Tajikistan (RT). Little, and that's it ...

What then did the official Dushanbe request? We give this list in this material. First, Mr. Rakhmon wanted Russia to introduce a preferential regime for Tajik migrant workers. Commenting on this demand, one can say: well, until the meeting of the presidents of the two countries, the regime of Tajik citizens crossing the Russian border was, to put it mildly, not burdensome. And given that during the year Tajik migrant workers transfer about 3,5-3,8 billions of dollars from Russia to Russia, which is up to 45% of Tajikistan’s GDP, it’s more than strange to put forward any additional requirements. However, the Russian authorities decided to meet them and told Rakhmon their “yes” - yes, a preferential treatment for migrants from Tajikistan.

Secondly, Dushanbe requested from Russia to abolish export duties on the import of energy into the Republic of Tajikistan. On this occasion, the relevant agreements were signed. The process of final agreement on this issue began in the first decade of March 2013. And at this moment an amazing incident manifested itself. The fact is that the Russian side was already ready to lift export duties for the “fraternal” republic, as it suddenly turned out that Tajik lawmakers themselves did not lift a finger in order for energy resources from Russia to come to Tajikistan without duties. At the same time, they say in Dushanbe that they are waiting for the first step from the Russian authorities ... They say that you will remove the duties and start the delivery, and we'll figure it out somehow. However, in Moscow, there were not unreasonable suspicions that there were simply certain (quite influential) forces in Tajikistan that would simply be unprofitable for the removal of Russian export duties on energy supplies.

Indirect evidence that taking legislative decisions on duty-free energy trading is not profitable for some people in Tajikistan can be eloquent figures. Russia, expecting that Dushanbe will finally deal with the documents relating to the import of Russian hydrocarbons, reduced supplies. One of the transport reports says that in February 2013 of the year, not a single ton of gasoline reached Tajikistan by rail. Moreover, in January only about 9 thousand tons of fuel were imported into this Central Asian republic. Only from this no shortage of gasoline in Tajikistan was found. It turns out that either the Tajiks secretly established deliveries of petroleum products from some other countries, either there are fuel reserves in Tajikistan, or there is a banal smuggling of fuel to which people can be involved in both Tajikistan and Russia. Judging by the reports of the official authorities of Tajikistan, both the first and second options are excluded ... So, the third option is working, which explains why the republic does not officially come with fuel, but this does not test Tajikistan for deficiencies ... Apparently, someone just decided that if there are no export duties, then there is no official fuel traffic ... And there is plenty of unofficial traffic.

Of course, if the customs service of Tajikistan wants to establish the sources of illegal import of fuel into the country, it is quite simple, but the customs officers of Tatarstan keep quiet, Mr. Rakhmon doesn’t look particularly upset about this either. Why did it happen?..

In general, as you can see, one of the previous initiatives of cooperation between Russia and Tajikistan was a little choked up, but this did not prevent official Dushanbe from setting new conditions. In the middle of the week it became known that the Tajik parliament would ratify the agreement on extending the 201-th military base of the Russian Federation in the Republic of Tajikistan tomorrow, if only Moscow finances Tajik hydropower industry and invests the next millions of dollars for the modernization of the Tajik army.

But the most interesting thing is that Tajikistan has already demanded something similar from Russia. There were words about the development of hydropower in the republic, and about the modernization of the Tajik army. Now it seemed to the authorities of the Republic of Tajikistan that they had made a bit of bad bargaining, and they decided to demand the new financial resources from those 200 millions of dollars from Russia, which were discussed several months ago. Like, you want a base - give money. More and more money. Give - maybe the agreement and ratify, but not give ...

It is not known what Mr. Rakhmon calls these things, but actually this interaction option has a criminal procedure definition, which can be described by the term “extortion”, moreover, extortion at the state level, as well as in especially large amounts.

And now the main question is whether Russia will bite again on this Tajik bait. If Tajikistan receives further preferences, this Rakhmon blackmail can go on and on. Everything is very simple: it is only for the victim to fulfill the requirements of the extortionists, how these requirements will be repeated again, perhaps in large volumes.
And now we can look at the situation with what will actually happen if the Russian leadership gathers the political will into a fist and says: “Enough!” Let's think who this “pretty!” Russian will be worse for. Let us assume that it will certainly be worse for Russia - the Tajik president will take it himself and bring the Russian servicemen outside the Republic of Tatarstan ... But only to do that in a situation that exists today in Tajikistan can only be completely insane. In the case of the withdrawal of the Russian 201-th military base from Tajikistan, this state turns into a tasty morsel for a large redistribution. And the first blow, to the fortuneteller does not need to go, will be inflicted on the current Tajik authorities and first of all on President Emomali Rahmon. Or, perhaps, the Tajik leader thinks that American defenders of democracy will come to the place of the Russian military in RT? They may come, but it’s not a fact that after their arrival, Emomali Sharipovich will keep his soft presidency ... And it’s not at all that a bloody civil war, extinguished with the help of Russian soldiers, will not resume after the arrival of the main democratizers.

It turns out that Mr. Rahmon, hiding behind the Tajik parliament, is playing with fire today. Hurry he would have, perhaps, decided to "lope hang in grams." I would decide - Russia would take into account its needs, and the matter would, you see, be moved from the dead point. But Emomali Sharipovich, in all likelihood, wants to take advantage of the Russian interest constantly - day after day, looking for new reasons for outright state blackmail.

It remains to be hoped that politicians will be found in Moscow, which the Tajik leadership will literally explain with their fingers that endless bargaining with unilateral demands usually does not lead to anything good. And if it does, it’s not at all for the side that has started such a dubious trade.

““ It won't be enough! ”- a phrase and a frame from the cartoon“ Last year’s snow fell ”
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  1. Denis
    Denis 25 March 2013 09: 09 New
    33
    Donkeys are probably easier to negotiate than with their president.
    1. DeerIvanovich
      DeerIvanovich 25 March 2013 09: 24 New
      18
      maybe smile
      but he will wait until they throw him off power by a coup, as in Kyrgyzstan.
    2. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 25 March 2013 09: 41 New
      23
      Quote: Denis
      Donkeys are probably easier to negotiate

      So we agree with them hi
      1. Sirocco
        Sirocco 25 March 2013 10: 36 New
        17
        Jumbled recalled how the donkey screams laughing I wrote about Moldavan, and here, too, Tajiks sensed market conditions. So to say they decided to sell themselves more expensive. Although in the 70s they thanked the Russians for teaching them to piss while standing, and to wipe their ass with paper, and not wash from a teapot.
        1. stalkerwalker
          stalkerwalker 27 March 2013 23: 10 New
          +4
          Quote: Sirocco
          for the fact that they were taught to piss while standing, and to wipe the ass with paper, and not wash from the kettle.

          General Skobelev remembered something ...
          bully
      2. Denis
        Denis 26 March 2013 13: 59 New
        +2
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        and agree with them
        You are wrong, donkey or donkey, it is in the picture, and those donkeys
        Surprising misunderstanding of the situation by our leadership.
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        Russia would have taken his needs into account, and the matter would have looked, moved off the ground
        Just a maaalenky question about the face, will it crack? In vain, he is bullied, with the possible departure of the 201st division, he will run ahead of her, otherwise the Pamirs will remember him a lot
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        wished for Russia to introduce preferential treatment for Tajik migrant workers
        Everyone should give out a separate apartment, or rather an enclosure? There is nowhere more beneficial, work and live on a free tax (just a tax, at least one) you do not have to pay
    3. bezumnyiPIT
      bezumnyiPIT 25 March 2013 11: 29 New
      13
      De facto, all the former "fraternal" republics are the fruits of separatism, those who have stolen (these same separatists) the Union are still at the helm in the republics and are trying to play politics: "They say we're independent and all that - give us Russian gas , oil, wood, bread, or we’ll make friends with America "The catch is that America doesn’t need them with their requests, It’s time to send them away too, and send Gaster home to prove" friendship ".
      1. Sirocco
        Sirocco 25 March 2013 12: 23 New
        +6
        And if you dig deeper, All these republics completely lost their conscience, because Russia took upon itself all the former obligations of the USSR. They need to be reminded so that they don’t forget who they owe.
        1. Ali Baba
          Ali Baba 25 March 2013 12: 28 New
          -30
          Quote: Sirocco
          And if you dig deeper, All these republics completely lost their conscience, because Russia took upon itself all the former obligations of the USSR. They need to be reminded so that they don’t forget who they owe.

          And you also need to remind that all the property abroad and the bills also took over ... what an all-out excessive burden it is ... there is no way to divide the bills and the property also hasn’t taken everything heroically hi
          1. Sirocco
            Sirocco 25 March 2013 13: 14 New
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            And who forbade you to take property, they themselves refused, fearing the debt of the USSR, which Russia paid off only in the early 2000s. And after the fight, all the masters wave their fists. And you did not need responsibility. Your leaders relied on independence and freedom.
            1. Ali Baba
              Ali Baba 25 March 2013 13: 33 New
              -18
              Quote: Sirocco
              Your leaders relied on independence and freedom.

              Or can you recall the famous statement of EBN that he was there about sovereignty and take how much you want? Ah ah ah and the foreigners are to blame for everything ... by the way, who is to blame for the fact that you privatized the property by a voucher by pulling including foreign assets so that you got deep into debt ... The union didn’t have so many debts the country was wink
              1. 73petia
                73petia 26 March 2013 23: 52 New
                0
                On the account of "take sovereignty as much as you swallow" this EBN told its Tatars. And the "foreigners" are full of their sovereignty.
          2. AlNikolaich
            AlNikolaich 25 March 2013 14: 46 New
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            Quote: Ali Baba
            And you also need to remind that all the property abroad and the bills also took over ... what an all-out excessive burden it is ... there is no way to divide the bills and the property also hasn’t taken everything heroically

            Yeah, I took it ... Multi-billion debts! And several hundred real estate and empty bills ...
            And also Russia took away and exported nuclear warheads from everyone ... Now there is nothing for the poor to sell ...
            You need to think with your head before you write!
            Minus you negative
            1. Ali Baba
              Ali Baba 25 March 2013 15: 40 New
              -10
              Quote: AlNikolaich
              Yeah, I took it ... Multi-billion debts! And several hundred real estate and empty bills ...
              And also Russia took away and exported nuclear warheads from everyone ... Now there is nothing for the poor to sell ...
              You need to think with your head before you write!

              We also think that property and accounts were scammed by various swindlers like EBN and to Chubais it’s your fault and it’s not at all necessary to attribute us there ... you pushed us out of the union just to take all this into your hands and then your oligarchs ... but the people with something just remained ...
              1. Gladiatir-zlo
                Gladiatir-zlo 25 March 2013 20: 25 New
                +6
                Oh dear, do you enlighten who and whom drove out of the union? remind those whose memory is useless, for example, to me? From which former republic did not the Russians flee? They fled or abandoned or sold for a penny their property acquired back in the union, such as a common state. where did the Russians, in which republic, become citizens equal to the titular people? You will clarify, I will read, I will be touched. In what former Soviet republic do Russians dump in search of work, such as Tajiks to Russia? again I can’t remember such a republic! Is that go to Patamuchto ram - YES?
                1. APOCALIPTIC
                  APOCALIPTIC 25 March 2013 23: 35 New
                  -4
                  in which republic, did they become citizens equal to the titular people?

                  in Lithuania yes
                2. Denis
                  Denis 26 March 2013 14: 14 New
                  +2
                  Quote: Gladiatir-Zlo
                  Oh dear, do you enlighten who and whom drove out of the union?
                  It's not them negative Now who do not listen to all for the Union were, and go to your Russia Martians screamed
                  1. Ali Baba
                    Ali Baba 27 March 2013 17: 32 New
                    +1
                    Quote: Denis
                    It’s not them. Now who don’t listen, everyone was for the Union, but

                    We quickly take and look at the results of the referendum ... and everything will fall into place and don’t need it here la la we were for the union but you yourself destroyed your EBN and co. and now there is no need to build oneself offended here.
                    1. Denis
                      Denis 27 March 2013 18: 36 New
                      +1
                      Quote: Ali Baba
                      there is no need to build oneself offended
                      Offended, in the broad sense of the word, trolls from Baghdad, do not respect yourself with them to argue
                      This is to people, so that I would not be led to articles by my esteemed V. Elistratov, about how good it is. Although it is possible if it is from Rakhmonov’s windows. But as he called it after reading this article, the classmate who came from there will not be allowed to name
                      Quote: Ali Baba
                      go to your Russia
                      Did Russians come up with this for themselves? I knew that trolls are ravenous, but not so much!
          3. Gladiatir-zlo
            Gladiatir-zlo 25 March 2013 20: 20 New
            0
            Oh yes, it’s very wise to take a gingerbread, and not pay a dime, very wise, but here the treacherous Russians took did not share the gingerbread for free, for which they paid the full price. Well, not ?
    4. pav-pon1972
      pav-pon1972 25 March 2013 15: 59 New
      12
      They have a presidential election in the fall, is it time to start expelling the citizens of the Republic of Tatarstan home ... So that they explain to him and the deputies how they will feed their families ...
      Yes, the media often raise the topic of tightening the visa regime with Tajikistan ...
  2. Tartary
    Tartary 25 March 2013 09: 14 New
    15
    One can only hope that there will be politicians in Moscow who will literally explain to the Tajik leadership on fingers

    And better with a hammer on your fingers, maybe only then it will feel ...
    1. INTER
      INTER 25 March 2013 09: 42 New
      10
      Quote: Tartary
      And better with a hammer on your fingers, maybe only then it will feel ...

      good They need to show some rigidity, I know their nature, they begin to become impudent when with them for good. We have a saying, "It’s better for the child to show him ...... than the face." Meaning: Keep at a distance and do not start emotional conversations. yes
      1. lonshakovpetr
        lonshakovpetr 27 March 2013 16: 24 New
        0
        The story is somewhat similar to the Gabala radar
        In general, as they say ...... comrades snickered no
    2. andrejwz
      andrejwz 25 March 2013 10: 52 New
      +4
      Quote: Tartary
      One can only hope that there will be politicians in Moscow who will explain to the Tajik leadership literally on their fingers. It’s better to hammer on the fingers, maybe only then it will feel ...

      So this is on the fingers to explain. First, flaring, then a hammer, iron, etc.
      All the same, I would like to hope that the Tajik brothers understand humanly, although a donkey with lumps of money is sitting in their head Rakhmon through his back. They speak with Rakhmon, and the donkey thinks for him.
  3. vladsolo56
    vladsolo56 25 March 2013 09: 14 New
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    So does Russia need a base in Tajikistan? The answer is no. since the military does not have any influence in the Republic, the 201st division guards the borders, which is misleading, and no Russian soldiers allow the border. The only purpose is to retain existing power. So if this government behaves like an ungrateful pig, then why bother, withdraw a base, for example, to Kazakhstan, close the borders in the south and let the Tajiks figure out how to live on, most likely slide down to a standard of living like in Afghanistan.
    1. Ascetic
      Ascetic 25 March 2013 09: 32 New
      15
      Quote: vladsolo56
      So if this government behaves like an ungrateful pig, then why bother, withdraw a base, for example, to Kazakhstan, close the borders in the south and let the Tajiks figure out how to live on, most likely slide down to a standard of living like in Afghanistan.


      And then where will we get the station in Nurek? If the Mujahideen, pro-Amerian come to power? It will be like in Gabala. And there is no and is not expected an adequate replacement for it in Russia. Firstly, there are no corresponding geographical conditions, and secondly, it is a very expensive pleasure comparable to duties and all Tajiks combined.

      OEC “Window” (“Nurek”, military unit 52168) - Optoelectronic space monitoring system. It is a component of the space monitoring system (SCCC). Designed to quickly obtain information about the space environment, cataloging space objects of artificial origin, determine their class, purpose and current status. The complex allows you to detect any space objects at altitudes from 2000 km and up to the geostationary orbit.
      The complex is located at an altitude of 2216 m above sea level in the Sanglok (Pamir) mountains, not far from the city of Nurek (Tajikistan) in the Khodzharki village. It is the property of Russia and is part of the East Kazakhstan region
      It allows the detection, recognition and calculation of the orbits of space objects in automatic mode at altitudes from 2 thousand to 40 thousand km. and larger than one meter. The complex is also capable of serving low-orbit space objects with flight altitudes from 120 to 2000 km.
      1. vladsolo56
        vladsolo56 25 March 2013 09: 46 New
        +1
        What is the indispensability of the WINDOW Complex? Yes, it is unique, but the point of observing everything that flies over Central Asia? it seems to me that such a complex on the territory of Russia would be much more useful.
        1. Andrey57
          Andrey57 25 March 2013 10: 03 New
          11
          You are mistaken - this complex "sees" very far South into the Indian Ocean, not only over Central Asia, but taking into account the distance to the geostationary orbit (about 36,000km), this unique complex sees a lot. And the conditions in the Pamirs in the Nurek region are such that it is difficult to find such ones in Russia; in the USSR this place was chosen for a reason.
          1. Gladiatir-zlo
            Gladiatir-zlo 25 March 2013 20: 30 New
            +2
            Yes, you choose the right one, only sometimes delaying a difficult decision, you drive yourself into a dead end, the way out of which is really worse and more expensive than timely castling. The main thing here is not to miscalculate with the time leaving in the gap. I think so!
        2. Ascetic
          Ascetic 25 March 2013 11: 04 New
          15
          Quote: vladsolo56
          but the point of observing everything that flies over Central Asia? it seems to me that such a complex on the territory of Russia would be much more useful.


          The fact is that the closer to the equator, the more geostationary objects can be detected. At the moment, the complex can monitor objects located at a distance of two thousand to forty thousand kilometers from it. But forty thousand kilometers is not the limit
          The geographical position of the standing point of the complex is such that any spacecraft launched, for example, from any US training ground into an orbit with an altitude of more than 2000 km, will be held in the “Windows” zone of responsibility at the very first turns. In other words, the chosen location provides a solution to all the tasks assigned to the complex with the same efficiency (and by some characteristics even higher) with which similar tasks are solved by the US Terrestrial Electro-Optical Observation System (GEODSS), consisting of four stations, approximately uniformly spaced along the Earth's equator (USA, Diego Garcia Island, South Korea, Hawaiian Islands).
          By the number of clear night hours suitable for optical observations (approximately 1500 hours), as well as by astroclimate (transparency and stability of the atmosphere), the “Okno” complex deployment area is comparable to the best region of the world (Sierra Tololo, Chile) and has indisputable advantages in comparison with any other region.
          And to lose such a complex or give it to the Americans because of the bzik of jamshuts is a crime!
          1. vladsolo56
            vladsolo56 25 March 2013 14: 18 New
            -2
            As I understand it, 40000 km is visibility in height, in view diameter up to 2000, what 2000 is, what is a radius of 1000 km, in fact there is nothing important in this radius and cannot be in the foreseeable future. Compared with the costs that Russia incurs for maintenance and protection (meaning a military base), it seems to me unjustified
            1. Ascetic
              Ascetic 25 March 2013 14: 49 New
              +6
              Quote: vladsolo56
              As I understand it, 40000 km is visibility in height, in view diameter up to 2000, what 2000 is, what is a radius of 1000 km, in fact there is nothing important in this radius and cannot be in the foreseeable future.


              Complex able to exercise global control for space objects over Eurasia, North and Central Africa, the waters of the Indian, Pacific and Atlantic oceans. He is able to SEE the most delicious satellites at the geostationary station and above up to 40000 km (at this altitude, by the way, we have the Oko space group, for example)
              The Russian SKKP currently has two information-measuring orths. One of them equipped radio-optical complex "Krona", located in the village of Zelenchukskaya, Karachay-Cherkess Republic, and the other, equipped Optoelectronic complex "Window", - in Tajikistan, near the city of Nurek.
              In addition, for the detection and tracking of space objects is used Radio-technical complex for monitoring spacecraft "Moment" in the suburbs and astronomical observatories of the Russian Academy of Sciences.
              The facilities of the Russian SSSU control space objects in the following zones:
              for low- and high-orbit objects - in altitudes from 120 to 3500 km, in the inclinations of their orbits - from 30 to 150 degrees with respect to the earth's axis;
              for objects located in geostationary orbits, - in altitude from 35 to 40 thousand km, with standing points in longitude from 35 to 105 degrees east longitude.
              SKPP does not observe outer space in the altitude range of more than 3500 km and less than 35 thousand km. To eliminate this and other “gaps” in the Russian SKKP, according to Colonel Alexei Zolotukhin, an official representative of the press service and information department of the Russian Defense Ministry for the Aerospace Defense Forces, “Work has begun on the creation of new optical, radio engineering and radar specialized means of monitoring outer space in the next few years”. It is possible that the deadlines for completing these and other works and adopting new means of monitoring outer space will not go beyond 2020.
              1. SIT
                SIT 26 March 2013 15: 20 New
                +2
                Quote: Ascetic
                and the other, equipped with the Optoelectronic complex “Window”, is in Tajikistan, near the city of Nurek.

                And isn’t it easier to negotiate with the Indians and for joint money to build a more modern station in the Himalayas even closer to the equator? By approaching the equator, the capture band will increase and the Indians will also be interested in this info so that the maintenance costs can be divided. The border of the Customs Union is slammed shut for Uzbekistan, Tajikistan, Turkmenistan. Catch all migrants from these countries, check Russian passports, identify the corruption component in their receipt, seize passports and transport them to Karakalpakstan for 24 hours. 201y remove from there. Let the Chinese themselves deal with the spirits who will trample through the Afghan and Tajikistan to help the Uigur brothers in Chinese Kashgar and Urumqi. Turkmen Bashi together with the Uzbek Kurbashi will see how the Chinese Communist Party decides the issue. May still have time to join on any terms to the Customs Union. If you do not have time, you will have to remember who the party leader is. They will become 3 secretaries of the Ukzbek and Turkmen district committees of the CPC.
                1. sergius60
                  sergius60 26 March 2013 22: 33 New
                  +1
                  Delivered. laughing The only doubt was the third secretary. Most likely an indicative treatment with lead. yes
          2. Gladiatir-zlo
            Gladiatir-zlo 25 March 2013 20: 34 New
            0
            but shaw, Kvachkova can be rehabilitated, and as a former prisoner, released to the south, you look and do not blunder, the old fox, but he didn’t bite the man’s forehead, was caught with a broken crossbow. No, it's time for the old man to give the option to wrestle. Schaub for the State was not upset.
      2. Geisenberg
        Geisenberg 25 March 2013 12: 30 New
        +2
        You must have your own. Zadolbala this topic already. Where in the afternoon - let’s demolish it under the root and blow up the foundations.
        1. Nagaibak
          Nagaibak 25 March 2013 14: 03 New
          +3
          Geisenberg "You need to have your own. This topic is already sick of it. Wherever in the afternoon, let’s take it down to the root and blow up the foundations."
          In the USSR, there were no fools when they built a surveillance station. Since they built it there, it means that the conditions are such that such a station could only be built there.
          Build yourself? Where? Hehe ... ridiculed, builders damn it. Have we built a lot since 1990? At home .. hehe ... break not build.
          Another thing with the Tajik leadership is tougher or softer ... hehe, but we have wise leadership for this. Let them work.
          1. vladsolo56
            vladsolo56 25 March 2013 14: 21 New
            -1
            They planned and built back when the USSR was, and it means that this station was just closing the southern borders, now the USSR is gone, and all the talk about its urgent need is just an echo of those times, or the hope of returning something like the USSR
            1. Ascetic
              Ascetic 25 March 2013 14: 59 New
              +7
              Quote: vladsolo56
              They planned and built back when the USSR was, and it means that this station was just closing the southern borders, now the USSR is gone, and all the talk about its urgent need is just an echo of those times, or the hope of returning something like the USSR

              Yes, it’s not damaging the borders, it’s not even an SPRN missile attack station, It allows you to SEE AND TRACK A probable enemy
              And the closer it is to the equator, the more and longer it sees. Without this station, we will become practically blind in one eye, and the Krona will remain in Zelenchuk.
              How will we know which satellites, when and where, fly over us without SKKP complexes? How to take into account the satellite environment, for example, to maintain the secrecy of the PGRK? There, the whole of Tajikistan is not worth this station alone in its significance for Russia. just no one talks about it openly. for they don’t imagine the possibilities and significance of this unique station, which does the same work as four similar American ones at the equator, due to its unique location,
              1. IRBIS
                IRBIS 25 March 2013 17: 15 New
                +3
                Quote: Ascetic
                It allows you to see and track the potential enemy

                I don’t know what she sees there. I see here not a probable, but a very real adversary on the streets of Russian cities in the form of guest workers arriving uncontrollably and then beginning to multiply intensively. This is worse than locusts! When they all “swing” rights all at once, we all will not need the enemy!
    2. elmi
      elmi 25 March 2013 11: 08 New
      +7
      I don’t understand that we are talking with them? need tougher with them. To establish a friendly president, if "peace enforcement" does not help, they and the army as such do not. In general, I have 2 permission options: 1 Offer to join the customs union, with our border guards closing the border with Afghanistan, so that drug trafficking is closed; 2 option if they refuse - close the border with Tajikistan, maintain a visa regime, and Onishchenko will incite goods from Tajikistan, I’m sure it won’t take several months when they themselves ask the customs union, and if Rakhmon responds with the West, I’m sure the people will overthrow the government .
      1. politruk419
        politruk419 26 March 2013 12: 17 New
        +2
        Quote: elmi
        To establish a friendly president, if "peace enforcement" does not help, they and the army as such do not.

        I agree!
        The situation smells of Absurdity and idiocy implicated in delusions of grandeur and greed .. It is as if the trade union of stationless homeless people at three stations conducted a “political bargaining” with the head of the Linear ATC on transport.
  4. fenix57
    fenix57 25 March 2013 09: 22 New
    +2
    Yes, as much as you can.Gentlemen from the Kremlin, LET YOU THINK WITH THIS VISATIBLE THAT THERE IS A LIMIT ON ....... After all, it’s clear where the wind is blowing.
    [i] Vladimir Putin submitted to the State Duma for ratification the Agreement between the Russian Federation and the Republic of Tajikistan on the status and conditions of a Russian military base on the territory of the Republic of Tajikistan, signed in Dushanbe on October 5, 2012.-maybe not in a hurry, hurry up, as they say ....]cm.http: //news.kremlin.ru/news/17705
  5. Apollo
    Apollo 25 March 2013 09: 29 New
    +6
    Good morning everybody!!! hi

    quote-But Emomali Sharipovich, in all likelihood, wants to use the Russian interest constantly - day after day, looking for new reasons for outright state blackmail.

    This quote is the cornerstone of the article. One phrase shows the essence of the policy pursued by E. Rakhmon towards Russia. In general, the original situation is developing, not only are they protecting the republic from any rabble, but you also have to pay for the flaws of the leaders of the republic, It's just NAGLOS, I see the blame in the leadership of Russia, I played with Rakhmon, If the memory of the 2013 year in November doesn’t fail me, and not just the presidential election, did you believe the “comrade” in your unconditional victory ?! HA, leave him without support right away will become accommodating. IMHO
    1. Egoza
      Egoza 25 March 2013 13: 45 New
      +8
      Quote: Apollon
      But Emomali Sharipovich, in all likelihood, wants to use the Russian interest constantly

      Emomali Sharipovich just needs to present a separate edition of the tale to AS Pushkin about an old woman and a goldfish. type in capital letters and bold! maybe it will? laughing
      1. Apollo
        Apollo 25 March 2013 14: 54 New
        +2
        Quote: Egoza
        Emomali Sharipovich just needs to present a separate edition of the tale to AS Pushkin about an old woman and a goldfish. type in capital letters and bold! maybe it will?


        why, let him read the info from Rosbalt

        President of Uzbekistan Karimov confirms infarction information

        TASHKENT, 25 March. A source in the state-run media in Uzbekistan confirmed rumors circulated earlier by the opposition that President Islam Karimov was in serious condition after a heart attack.

        Recall that on 22 of March, the People’s Movement of Uzbekistan (NDU) on its official website disseminated information that in the evening of 19 of March 2013, President of Uzbekistan Islam Karimov suffered an expanded heart attack.

        This message was later confirmed by another source working in one of the state-owned media, operating directly under the supervision of the National Security Council and the press service of the President of Uzbekistan. According to him, on the evening of 19 March, Islam Karimov really suffered a heart attack, in connection with which he is currently seriously ill.

        “Therefore, the Security Council and the press service of the President of Uzbekistan instructed us to start re-showing old video and audio clips that capture the cheerful movements and speeches of Islam Karimov. In addition, before the president recovers completely, we must re-publish old articles on the good health of the president. So soon, the official media of the country will begin to show and publish old materials stating that Karimov is supposedly healthy and does not get sick, ”the source said.
        More details: http://www.rosbalt.ru/exussr/2013/03/25/1109586.html
        1. Iraclius
          Iraclius 25 March 2013 15: 57 New
          +2
          Ooooh ... Well then everything is clear. And wrap it up ...
      2. Ruslan67
        Ruslan67 25 March 2013 18: 55 New
        +4
        Quote: Egoza
        present a separate edition of the tale of A.S. Pushkin about an old woman and a goldfish.

        Or maybe just a trough on the head and face in it?
    2. Iraclius
      Iraclius 25 March 2013 15: 29 New
      +2
      You can’t say better - this is really undisguised blackmail.
      Another thing is that Russia is still forced to make compromises and even frank concessions. Including and because of Nurek.
      It is correctly noted in the article that Rakhmon’s last political steps are given, to put it mildly, shortsightedness, and, if directly, they hint at the state of his mental health.
      I am sure at 100% that if the Tajik leadership takes a course towards distance from the Russian Federation, the country will slide at a frantic pace to the level of neighboring Afghanistan.
  6. UzRus
    UzRus 25 March 2013 09: 29 New
    +2
    This amerikasy already worked. Not for nothing that some State Department official came to Rakhmon not so long ago ... Surely he promised something, what Rakhmon could not refuse? I think that Russia should solve 2 questions for itself: the first - does it need Tajik Gaster and the second (as Vladsolo56 wrote above) - does it need 201 bases? But here a problem of a different nature arises - what will happen to the WINDOW complex?
  7. slavik_gross
    slavik_gross 25 March 2013 09: 30 New
    +3
    but how many jackals do not feed, he looks into the forest.
  8. Was mammoth
    Was mammoth 25 March 2013 09: 32 New
    +6
    The time for the gingerbread has passed, don't you think so?
  9. Fregate
    Fregate 25 March 2013 09: 34 New
    +8
    Half of their population works for us, and due to this they live. Yes, they still have to pay us themselves for our base. Expel everyone from the country, let's see how they sing. angry
  10. andrey903
    andrey903 25 March 2013 09: 37 New
    +2
    Not really some kind of base is worth the flow of drugs and guest workers. With the main rabbi it is impossible to negotiate, he will constantly change conditions, demand money
  11. ed65b
    ed65b 25 March 2013 09: 39 New
    +2
    As soon as the mess begins in the Republic of Tajikistan somewhere in the Pamirs they ratify the agreement instantly. Will wait.
    1. Ghenxnumx
      Ghenxnumx 25 March 2013 12: 06 New
      0
      Quote: ed65b
      As soon as the mess begins in the Republic of Tajikistan somewhere in the Pamirs they ratify the agreement instantly. Will wait.

      Surely, just such a scenario will happen in the near future
  12. slavik_gross
    slavik_gross 25 March 2013 09: 45 New
    +3
    bobble basmachi want more and not to work at the same time ...
  13. avt
    avt 25 March 2013 09: 48 New
    +2
    Rakhmon - Turkish delight has burst out. Passionarity baked his head. Looks like while in Moscow they are busy with other things, such as Cyprus, I decided to cut down the dough for easy. Something tells me that in the light of a popos on the headstock from the European Union, this pyruz will be expensive for him.
  14. Warrawar
    Warrawar 25 March 2013 10: 12 New
    +4
    I have long said - there is no need to have any illusions about the former Soviet republics (especially Asian).
    1. Ali Baba
      Ali Baba 25 March 2013 10: 46 New
      -18
      Quote: Warrawar

      I have long said - there is no need to have any illusions about the former Soviet republics (especially Asian).

      Take an example from us. We don’t digest you at all and don’t feed anything positive. wink
      so it’s right for you to feel better right away ... after all, Asians are not so good they’ll direct you to cheat and cut off your head .. yes, don’t relax, we are just like that and we’re going to you rather we’re already with you
      1. Tartary
        Tartary 25 March 2013 11: 24 New
        +9
        Quote: Ali Baba
        Take an example from us, we don’t digest you at all

        Quote: Ali Baba
        Asians are not good, they’ll direct you to throw a pout and cut off your head ..

        Quote: Ali Baba
        do not relax, we are just such and we are going to you rather we are already with you

        Is there enough money, strength, intelligence and reaction to fall off when the “Russian revolt” begins against you, “beloved thugs”?
        Keep your eyes open! What’s the head there - just (!) You don’t hear, don’t see, but sit on a stake, like a prospect?
        Or do you hope between the trickles - both here and back?
        1. Ali Baba
          Ali Baba 25 March 2013 11: 34 New
          -9
          What are we all civilized and who else of us are thugs ... at least we don’t care anymore that you are seething and boiling in a bowler and you all dream about colas, a fetish is probably yours request
          1. Denis
            Denis 26 March 2013 14: 24 New
            +2
            Quote: Ali Baba
            who else of us are thugs.
            Gastrikas need to love power more than anyone else, which is instantaneous, only they will stop and protect, guess what will begin?
      2. UzRus
        UzRus 25 March 2013 11: 52 New
        +6
        Take an example from us. We don’t digest you at all and don’t feed anything positive. - Do not give out your personal opinion as the opinion of the whole people.
        1. Ali Baba
          Ali Baba 25 March 2013 12: 04 New
          0
          Quote: UzRus
          Take an example from us. We don’t digest you at all and don’t nourish anything more positive. Don’t give your personal opinion as the opinion of the whole people.

          Comrade, actually it was an irony wink Tajikistan doesn’t bother me more than Angola. It touches me when they simply block water from harm and let them live as they think. And I answered my friend with irony because he believes that there are thugs and haters wink
          1. lav566
            lav566 25 March 2013 12: 12 New
            +4
            Ali Baba is a provocateur already familiar here.
            Again, he wants to arrange srach here. I advise everyone not to pay
            attention to him.
            1. Ali Baba
              Ali Baba 25 March 2013 12: 21 New
              0
              Quote: lav566
              Ali Baba is a provocateur already familiar here.
              Again, he wants to arrange srach here. I advise everyone not to pay
              attention to him.

              Good afternoon dear wink To be honest, as soon as they didn’t call me on this site, you still called me a provocateur ... If a person ironically pulled up the interlocutor, this is not a provocation. Especially since I don’t really care about the affairs of Zhanobi Emomali Sharipovech, I just want to pay attention that you should not think in sterotypes, and if you think you can poke your nose in the wrong place ...
          2. UzRus
            UzRus 25 March 2013 13: 38 New
            -5
            Ali Baba, well, there are people here who believe that we owe this civilization to someone. And in general, as if we were almost living on trees and eating raw meat ... laughing
            1. Ali Baba
              Ali Baba 25 March 2013 13: 54 New
              +2
              Quote: UzRus
              Ali Baba, well, there are people here who believe that we owe this to our civilization. And in general, as if we were almost living on trees and eating raw meat ...

              You tell the truth, comrade, the truth ... our past is savagery and present to them all the more so God forbid tell us that we’ll ridicule us on the subway ... but it’s better to keep silent about toilet paper that we don’t use it wink
              1. UzRus
                UzRus 25 March 2013 14: 17 New
                0
                but it’s better to keep silent about toilet paper; let them think that we don’t use it - I am silent about the fact that we produce it ... laughing
              2. Nagaibak
                Nagaibak 25 March 2013 16: 11 New
                0
                Ali Baba "So they ridicule with a ride ... but it’s better to keep silent about toilet paper, let them think that we don’t use it"
                What paper do you use? Hehe ...
              3. воронов
                воронов 25 March 2013 23: 42 New
                0
                Do you use burdock laughing
          3. воронов
            воронов 25 March 2013 23: 40 New
            0
            What he said, he said, now do not include the back, you are already listed ...
      3. Denis
        Denis 26 March 2013 14: 21 New
        +1
        Quote: Ali Baba
        we are going to you rather we are already with you
        Entire army bent over the Taliban with a broom or shovel
      4. sergius60
        sergius60 26 March 2013 23: 00 New
        +2
        Walkers on Lake Peipsi went diving. Walkers to Moscow so loved nature and climate that only a few hundred agreed to return. Then there were still walkers to Moscow and Stalingrad. They said that the area is not correct and the population is not humane. We are not friends with such people! no Yes, recently the Georgian song and dance ensemble wanted to perform. I wanted to. recourse Not rated. Offended. 2 brigades did not appreciate the talent of the 35th ensemble, the staff of the army corps! Yes, in Russia there are problems with natural fertilizers, bulls and cows are a little poop. Oh. request And for a long time there were no walkers ... Do you think that tens of millions of “Ali Babs” will solve the problems of fertilizers and increase productivity? A word of honor, we’ll bury everyone, now we are economic, prudent, we know the word “capitalism”! repeat
  15. ImPerts
    ImPerts 25 March 2013 10: 27 New
    +6
    The control station is Russian property. Mr. Rakhmon needs to explain in a popular or popular way that in order to protect state property, in the presence of instability and misunderstanding, an airborne assault division will be additionally introduced to the 201 division, for protection. And Emomali Rahmon himself may suddenly choke on a bone after he finds out about it.
    There are world precedents. It is necessary to use world experience, including partners in the UN Security Council.
  16. Averias
    Averias 25 March 2013 10: 37 New
    +1
    The other day they showed a film about Hodge Nasruddin, a very old film - but at the moment it turned out to be so relevant.
  17. Hort
    Hort 25 March 2013 10: 40 New
    +3
    I don’t understand our diplomatic line. Well, yes, we are together in the CIS and in the Collective Security Treaty Organization, but we must put it in its place. Moreover, the content of the 201st costs a pretty penny.
    Anyway, it was necessary to immediately give a gentle hint that a little more arrogance and Rakhmon himself with the next batch of Gaster will go to us to work.
    Well, there’s nothing to say about simplification of the customs regime with respect to Tajik workers: how many “joys” they bring us - from cholera and other rubbish to drugs
    1. nakaz
      nakaz 25 March 2013 12: 19 New
      0
      Tajikistan is very dependent on Russia. It is unclear what they still want.
      1. UzRus
        UzRus 25 March 2013 13: 40 New
        0
        That is just the point.
    2. stalkerwalker
      stalkerwalker 25 March 2013 23: 52 New
      +7
      Quote: hort
      Well, yes, we are together in the CIS and in the Collective Security Treaty Organization, but we must put it in its place.

      08.08.2008 all CSTO sat in the corners, crap quietly.
      They couldn’t even blather for something intelligible, except for a strange statement like "These are purely Russian affairs ...".
      Such things are not forgotten, and not forgiven.
      But we decided to silently look away from such "allies."
      And now slurp continuation: "I come, I go ..."
      It's time to tear porcelain teeth with a pair of pliers not only to the government, but also to stoned Central Asian comrades am
  18. Aeneas
    Aeneas 25 March 2013 10: 40 New
    +8
    Tajiks are not ordinary people, who are usually portrayed as jamshuts. During the civil war, Tajikistan became a completely self-sufficient country from Russia, because it doesn’t produce anything and doesn’t buy in Russia (I don’t really imagine the situation as an aluminum smelter is operating now). Rakhmon is more afraid of Karimov, and Uzbekistan’s claim for leadership (Uzbeks supply gas to Tajiks). And at the same time, Tajikistan has a very favorable position in the region, having a base you can control the situation in Kyrgyzstan, Afghanistan, Uzbekistan. This is understood by the Amers, Ketais and Russia. But the campaign, the Chinese will come there and begin to develop subsoil and water resources, while the presence of amers is holding them back. It will be very difficult for Russia to “catch” something. If you are ready to invest (give) money to Tajikistan, and to conflict with the Chinese and Islamists, then please. Well, there’s also the problem of drug trafficking ... In the first place, it seems to me that it is necessary to curtail our presence in Tajikistan - this is a lost zone of influence, and the presence of the Russian military is not a lever of influence, but an opportunity to speculate from local leaders.
    1. UzRus
      UzRus 25 March 2013 11: 55 New
      0
      Aeneas, the aluminum plant is doing well, poisoning our territory along the way. And the Chinese have climbed into Tajikistan quite well.
    2. Cheloveck
      Cheloveck 25 March 2013 18: 44 New
      +3
      Quote: Aeneas
      During the civil war, Tajikistan became a completely self-sufficient country from Russia, because it doesn’t produce anything and doesn’t buy anything in Russia

      Did you understand what you wrote?
      Half of Tajikistan’s GDP is made up of “labor migrants” mainly from Russia, do you think this is self-sufficiency?
    3. воронов
      воронов 25 March 2013 23: 48 New
      +1
      Tajiks themselves will not allow us to curtail our presence in their country, because in this case they will not go to China, Kyrgyzstan, Uzbekistan to work, and there are more than enough of them laughing
  19. Sirocco
    Sirocco 25 March 2013 10: 43 New
    +2
    and will invest another millions of dollars to modernize the Tajik army. Many let me apologize for being rude. To modernize the Tajik army, how is it? Change the brains of monkeys or what? Or do all of the Taj Mo plastic surgery transplant hands from the ass? Reket banal.
    1. Soldier
      Soldier 25 March 2013 13: 41 New
      12
      I watch many people write in the style of, “monkeys, jamshuts,” Sad brothers. And for me, Tajiks are brotherly people. Of course I didn’t drink chachu with the government, but then in 1997, when there was still war, SIMPLE Tajiks were VERY good and respectful to us . We can’t leave there, without us again there will be a massacre and not the government, but ordinary people will be cut.
      1. UzRus
        UzRus 25 March 2013 14: 39 New
        +2
        Soldier, about the common people it is said true, you are a plus.
        1. stalkerwalker
          stalkerwalker 26 March 2013 00: 05 New
          +5
          Guys!
          Throughout the entire post-Soviet space, there is the same confrontation between ordinary people and state officials.
          Confrontation from silently embittered to fire-hot (Dagestan).
          Friendly relations between ordinary people have a place to be.
          But when the question goes into the national stage, everyone begins to remember the glorious history of HIS people, no matter how many centuries ago this people WAS glorious.
          I’m afraid I’ll have to learn from the Yankees to keep “CSTO-CIS friends” in good shape:
          Quote: Ragnarek

          need to seriously see how much we need this base? it may make sense to invest in strengthening the Russian-Tajik border. and act like the United States, preventively launch missile strikes against frostbite accumulations in Tajikistan
  20. Ragnarek
    Ragnarek 25 March 2013 10: 50 New
    +5
    need to seriously see how much we need this base? it may make sense to invest in strengthening the Russian-Tajik border. and act like the United States, preventively launch missile strikes against frostbite accumulations in Tajikistan
    1. UzRus
      UzRus 25 March 2013 11: 56 New
      0
      Probably, the Russian leadership has its own point of view on this issue. We are waiting for the reaction.
  21. VadimSt
    VadimSt 25 March 2013 10: 50 New
    +2
    There is a counterbalance to the well-known democratic proverb: - ​​"Whatever the child is amused, if only he would not cry." Adequate parents raise children! A simple slap is often enough to stop the tantrum and freaks.
    Couple and Rahmon, give a slap, or better yet a kick!
  22. reserve
    reserve 25 March 2013 11: 06 New
    -11
    Well done Tajiks. Sevastopol simply gave our Yanukovych to Moscow just like that, hoping that they would cut off the price of gas for him, and he still gets it ... (by what and by what you yourself know). Tajiks learn from the example of the most fraternal people for Russia - Ukrainian.
    1. ImPerts
      ImPerts 25 March 2013 11: 43 New
      +2
      Somehow it is not clear. And what does it mean to pay rent due to gas supplies? It turns out that Ukraine receives gas for free. And what does it mean to reduce the cost of 1000 cubes by 100 $ assuming a cost of 330 dollars and above and 30% discount, if the cost of 1000 cubes is less than 330 dollars?
    2. Hort
      Hort 26 March 2013 08: 16 New
      +2
      heh, our Khrushchev just gave Crimea, and then Yeltsin in 97 fixed it with a treaty (which, by the way, is not valid from the point of view of international law). So let's not go for Sevastopol with gas
    3. evgenm55
      evgenm55 26 March 2013 08: 35 New
      +1
      Well, about Sevastopol, you got excited at all ... If you recall, the Khrushchev-mad took it from Russia and also didn’t attach it to Ukraine for money. There must be elementary justice somewhere ....
      1. alex13-61
        alex13-61 27 March 2013 11: 09 New
        0
        In Crimea, Khrushchev, even in Soviet times, was poorly remembered, even though it wasn’t accepted about the dead ...
  23. Tartary
    Tartary 25 March 2013 11: 30 New
    0
    Quote: rezerv
    Sevastopol simply gave our Yanukovych to Moscow just like that, hoping that they would cut off the price of gas for him, and still receive it ... (by what and by what you yourself know). Tajiks learn from the example of the most fraternal people for Russia - Ukrainian.

    And what about gas and people?
    If Yanukovych says that for him personally the gas in the palace is very expensive, then Putin will be able to decide how to make it cheaper, for a colleague in the shop ...

    But the people, both in Ukraine and in Russia, pay for liquefied natural gas in the hut, about 3500 dollars per 1000 cbm.
    Natural, I think that at a price both there and there it is equally worth it.

    So do not confuse round with hot ...
  24. Tartary
    Tartary 25 March 2013 11: 43 New
    +1
    Quote: Ali Baba
    What are we all civilized and who else of us are thugs ... at least we don’t care anymore that you are seething and boiling in a bowler and you all dream about colas, a fetish is probably yours

    And from there we will see who are the thugs, who are civilized, and who have aroused violent positive reactions, I’m even silent about emotions ...

    But don’t worry too much - some of yours will at least have one of the processes, but they’ll definitely like it ...
    Who sits down, who is already sitting quietly, who is getting down, and who is running ...
    This is especially true for cheeky writers like you ...
    But let the civilized ones remain and live in their common home - Russia ... Does anyone in Russia have normal people worthy of their people will be hindered?
    1. Ali Baba
      Ali Baba 25 March 2013 12: 08 New
      0
      Quote: Tartary
      And from there we will see who are the thugs, who are civilized, and who have aroused violent positive reactions, I’m even silent about emotions ...

      But don’t worry too much - some of yours will at least have one of the processes, but they’ll definitely like it ...
      Who sits down, who is already sitting quietly, who is getting down, and who is running ...
      This is especially true for cheeky writers like you ...
      But let the civilized ones remain and live in their common home - Russia ... Does anyone in Russia have normal people worthy of their people will be hindered?

      What a stormy imagination you have wink It’s extremely dangerous for you to give books like 50 shades of gray ... And don’t worry, everything will be fine ... as they said in Gaidai’s glorious picture "And you will be cured ..."
      1. Tartary
        Tartary 25 March 2013 12: 21 New
        +1
        Quote: Ali Baba
        What a stormy imagination you have in your hands is extremely dangerous to give books like 50 shades of gray ...

        So it’s better - I feel what penetrated ... It became clear ...
        And what are the books there? There are other examples that we would better not get into our hands ...
        Peace, Friendship, Moonshine, Ali Baba?
        Or will we begin to measure with fangs?
        1. Ali Baba
          Ali Baba 25 March 2013 12: 22 New
          +2
          Quote: Tartary
          So it’s better - I feel what penetrated ... It became clear ...
          And what are the books there? There are other examples that we would better not get into our hands ...
          Peace, Friendship, Moonshine, Ali Baba?
          Or will we begin to measure with fangs?

          Well, I’m Ali Baba, the character is fabulous positive and the more I love moonshine and salsa ... of course the world wink
          1. stalkerwalker
            stalkerwalker 26 March 2013 00: 11 New
            +4
            Something fast you guys made up ...
            So it would be in life.
            And then "moonshine", "fat", "buttons" ...
            crying
  25. Nayhas
    Nayhas 25 March 2013 11: 44 New
    +3
    The surprise at Tajikistan’s rhetoric change is strange in my opinion. Firstly, behind Tajikistan stands China, which has great interests there. China is gradually taking over Tajikistan. It doesn’t sound funny, but Tajikistan was flooded with Chinese migrant workers, many strategic enterprises in the hands of Chinese companies. Secondly, large oil reserves were discovered in Tajikistan "Bokhtar Square contains" recoverable resources "in the amount of 27,5 billion barrels of oil equivalent, of which 69% is gas, 31% is oil and gas condensate." The fact that while Rakhmon allows the Russian military to be present on his land, but as soon as oil and gas production begins, they will be asked from there, not without the hidden pressure of “Chinese friends”.
  26. MrFYGY
    MrFYGY 25 March 2013 12: 31 New
    +1
    You can’t send, it’s more expensive to agree. Perhaps in Tajikistan there will be a change of power soon.
  27. Black
    Black 25 March 2013 12: 40 New
    +4
    East .... Any steps towards are perceived as a manifestation of weakness. With these freaks you need to talk only from a position of strength.
    Or leave from there.
    1. Ali Baba
      Ali Baba 25 March 2013 12: 46 New
      -3
      Quote: Chen
      East .... Any steps towards are perceived as a manifestation of weakness. With these freaks you need to talk only from a position of strength.
      Or leave from there.

      Correctly gutarim comrade must leave for the first is not given wink
      1. lav566
        lav566 25 March 2013 13: 14 New
        +1
        I will watch with delight how the Taliban from below (if you look
        on the map), and the Arabs with the Americans on the side will grab you by the balls
        and strangle.
        1. Ali Baba
          Ali Baba 25 March 2013 13: 41 New
          0
          Quote: lav566
          I will watch with delight how the Taliban from below (if you look
          on the map), and the Arabs with the Americans on the side will grab you by the balls
          and strangle.

          I have no doubt ... in no way. By the way, at 41m we weren’t happy to see how the Germans pinched you, but no, here we went into the general train, the echelons were taken with the refugees, and the guys were sent to the front to distant lands ... strange as that, but as they say not everyone like you wink
          1. lav566
            lav566 25 March 2013 13: 51 New
            +1
            When you’ll be caught by the eggs, talk about the need to “leave”
            they’ll be forgotten right away. Run to Russia to ask for help.
            1. Ali Baba
              Ali Baba 25 March 2013 14: 02 New
              0
              Quote: lav566
              When you’ll be caught by the eggs, talk about the need to “leave”
              they’ll be forgotten right away. Run to Russia to ask for help.

              You are very emotionally reacting dear comrade, everything is much simpler, no one will go anywhere and will not leave, but my post is so that you would understand that it is not so simple as you all used to think ... they say freeloaders and even ask for what .. ... and so you need a base, pay, no, who doesn’t hold your ears here, and if you still sit here, it means you need pazarez ... and the free play has ended in 91 more, that's all.
              1. lav566
                lav566 25 March 2013 14: 09 New
                +1
                You need the Russian base more so that you are not caught by the eggs.
                1. Ali Baba
                  Ali Baba 25 March 2013 14: 20 New
                  +1
                  Quote: lav566

                  You need the Russian base more so that you are not caught by the eggs.

                  Well, why are you so worried about her? Not really for humanistic reasons? Yes, you throw your songs about the humanity of altruism and all that ... wink Each country has its own interest. Your interest is to keep the destabilizing elements of the United States farther from your borders in Middle Asia. This is Afghanistan, and it’s dancing with a tambourine around Emomalishka so that he will keep his interest here.
                  1. lav566
                    lav566 25 March 2013 14: 22 New
                    +1
                    Russia offers you help, and you demand that it still
                    and paid extra for this. Strange!
                    If you have a mess there, then you will burn the first.
                    And about our interest, you correctly formulated to keep these goats away from you.
                    1. Ali Baba
                      Ali Baba 25 March 2013 14: 35 New
                      +2
                      Quote: lav566
                      Russia offers you help, and you demand that it still
                      and paid extra for this. Strange!

                      Well, first of all, it’s not for us but for Tajikistan, but you probably don’t see the difference between Kazakhstan and Uzbekistan, and there they all end in Tajikistan .... But what if they don’t want what they are imposing themselves on? So you yourself answered, you want to live in peace yourself, but safety is not cheap, and Emomalishka also decided to cut down the money and you are sleeping peacefully and the collective farmer considers bucks.
                      1. lav566
                        lav566 25 March 2013 14: 44 New
                        +1
                        I see the difference, in the days of the USSR I visited you.
                        When I say “you,” I mean all of Central Asia.
                        Let’s forget about altruism. But there is a common interest-
                        ensuring both your and our safety.
                        Why not solve it, as Russia offers you?
                        A few days ago I heard here on the forum
                        your opinion: "we are on our own, you are our own."
                        So they will devour us one by one.
                      2. Ali Baba
                        Ali Baba 25 March 2013 15: 37 New
                        0
                        Quote: lav566
                        A few days ago I heard here on the forum
                        your opinion: "we are on our own, you are our own."

                        That's right because it is not profitable for us to work with those who do not see partners in us but see vassals. Because we choose what suits us and our interests .... And I repeat. Claims to comrade Emomali and not to Uzbekistan. So it’s more profitable for him not with you, but with the Chinese comrades, for example, he’s pursuing an appropriate policy for which you are surprised ... learn how to conduct a normal dialogue with partners and your surplus of interests will be worthless with intimidation ... you won’t achieve anything ... for example, China to dissolve a couple of millions of Tajik migrants in myself, taking into account that there are 1,6 billion of them at the same time acquiring new territories is a nice thing ...
                      3. lav566
                        lav566 25 March 2013 16: 19 New
                        +1
                        I regularly read materials on Russian relations on this site.
                        with the countries of Central Asia and make sure that normal
                        It’s impossible to build relationships with them.
                        security, they are about vassals. I don’t know what else
                        "normal dialogue" can be conducted. Russia correctly
                        does: does not rely on others, but restores the army
                        and wipes a nuclear club from rust.
  • 120352
    120352 25 March 2013 12: 59 New
    +4
    Let us return to them all the Tajiks who here provide their economy. In a day, they will strongly ask us very much to deploy five military bases in their Pamirs in exchange for five small trains of Gaster. But no more than one base per echelon. And it is not necessary for all of them to go to St. Petersburg and Moscow. We have no one to live on BAM. Now let him master it, and if it succeeds, let him grow cotton, but not drugs!
    1. Ali Baba
      Ali Baba 25 March 2013 13: 03 New
      -1
      Quote: 120352
      We have no one to live on BAM. So let him master it, and if it works out, then let him grow cotton

      Well, let's begin to grow cotton in Siberia ... probably you were a young Michyurents in childhood wink
  • lav566
    lav566 25 March 2013 13: 14 New
    +1
    I will watch with delight how the Taliban from below (if you look
    on the map), and the Arabs with the Americans on the side will grab you by the balls
    and strangle.
    1. Setrac
      Setrac 25 March 2013 17: 45 New
      0
      Quote: lav566

      I will watch with delight how the Taliban from below (if you look
      on the map), and the Arabs with the Americans on the side will grab you by the balls
      and strangle.

      There are also “good! Chinese” who will “help” Tajikistan. Libya helped China, Syria - Russia.
  • rpek32
    rpek32 25 March 2013 13: 23 New
    +2
    Funny age: the little ones dictate to the big what and how they need to do. laughing
  • fenix57
    fenix57 25 March 2013 13: 28 New
    +2
    Quote: Ali Baba
    boils and boils in a pot

    It is so unfortunate that you will not be seething in the pot, there will be nothing to boil, LIKE THAN (after all, you can ask a bit, a little, only 4,5 billion dollars should be paid to the Russian Federation). hi
    1. Ali Baba
      Ali Baba 25 March 2013 13: 51 New
      +3
      Quote: fenix57
      It is so unfortunate that you will not be seething in the pot, there will be nothing to boil, LIKE THAN (after all, you can ask a bit, a little, only 4,5 billion dollars should be paid to the Russian Federation).

      My friend personally, my country (Uzbekistan) doesn’t owe you such money, and Tajikistan, by the way, let him be responsible for his obligations hi
  • Goldmitro
    Goldmitro 25 March 2013 13: 38 New
    +1
    It seems that this “perseverance” bordering on the impudence of the Tajik side in the demands of new preferences from Russia is also explained by the fact that the pro-Russian .. !
  • 320423
    320423 25 March 2013 13: 41 New
    +1
    yes, long ago, what kind of gang would have been set on Rakhmonov so that the abdomen would scold and immediately he would sign everything that is needed, with the corrections we need. I don’t understand with him
  • Kolyan 2
    Kolyan 2 25 March 2013 13: 50 New
    +2
    rezerv Today, 11:06 ↓ -1
    Well done Tajiks. Sevastopol simply gave our Yanukovych to Moscow just like that, hoping that they would cut off the price of gas for him, and he still gets it ... (by what and by what you yourself know). Tajiks learn from the example of the most fraternal people for Russia - Ukrainian.


    Such brothers as you, as a child, needed by the legs, but about _ _ _. Who to whom Sevastopol and Crimea gave see the history of "shkolot" fool
  • JonnyT
    JonnyT 25 March 2013 14: 08 New
    +1
    You can’t leave. It is necessary to remind who is here "DAD"
  • TROG
    TROG 25 March 2013 14: 11 New
    +3
    "if the Russian leadership gathers political will in a fist and declares:" Enough! " "- that would be good news ...
  • homosum20
    homosum20 25 March 2013 14: 30 New
    +1
    I think, to have a drink ... all Tajiks from Russia on Friday, on Monday they will sign everything, even the presence of Martians on the moon.
  • AlNikolaich
    AlNikolaich 25 March 2013 15: 06 New
    +2
    Was reading. I thought. And then I decided! The great leader of the Tajik people, Rakhmonov (I write as it is, I do not care if he changed his surname. 70 years ago there were no surnames), he achieved unprecedented success for his country! Citizens of Tajikistan with unprecedented optimism go abroad to earn money (so that families do not die of hunger). The armed forces of an independent independent republic are so powerful that ... they cannot guard their own border! The industry of Tajikistan is so developed that ... that it is forced to invite Chinese guest workers, and ... and buy nails!
    The state is so rich that it is forced by all sorts of adventurous ways to fight with neighbors!
    Thanks to comrade Rakhmonov Emomali! He brought the country and the people to a pen ...
    Only the people feel sorry ...
  • Terrible ensign
    Terrible ensign 25 March 2013 15: 31 New
    0
    Aeneas, welcome!
    You (from the latest comments) have the most complete reflection of the general situation around Tajikistan. The only thing that is not clear is why you think that we need to leave from there ... Since you yourself indicate that the region is strategically important ... If there is no direct opportunity to get rid of the policy of blackmail and balancing by the leadership of this republic now, it is necessary to create conditions in which we (Russia) will have the decisive right to influence the situation in a manner favorable to the Russian Federation.
    This is the main task in this direction for our diplomats, economists and the Foreign Intelligence Service. I don’t know how they can deal with this ... Enough to let temporarily friendly China and, especially, representatives of the Protestant world order in the person of the United States into their "underbelly".
    The time of constant retreat has already passed. Leave now - never come back. Good to squander already. It is necessary to collect ...
  • JonnyT
    JonnyT 25 March 2013 16: 02 New
    0
    Yes, he will not go anywhere, he will fulfill the will of the Russian Federation .... unless of course the Russian authorities want this ....... the states are far and extremely unreliable as a partner, and China and dushmans are nearby. Rakhmon and Co. are just a bunch of snickering buys, their time will soon end, and the true values ​​and genetic memory are eternal. With the departure of Russia from Tajikistan, this country will turn into what it was before the advent of Russia - namely, into a wild state with lawlessness of buys, poverty, high mortality ....... Tajiks working in Russia will not allow this.
  • optimist
    optimist 25 March 2013 16: 09 New
    +2
    Here the whole question is not to Rakhmon (well done, he is raising Russians), but to our "great and terrible" GDP. There is a strong impression that he is black ... drunk (even ours, even foreign), he is much closer and dearer than his own nation. Although the very face, like, is Russian ...
  • Ruslan_F38
    Ruslan_F38 25 March 2013 16: 28 New
    0
    Insolent all CIS, in the end spoiled. It is necessary to change the power in Tajikistan and put your man there.
  • pinecone
    pinecone 25 March 2013 17: 42 New
    0
    Quote: Ragnarek
    need to seriously see how much we need this base? it may make sense to invest in strengthening the Russian-Tajik border. and act like the United States, preventively launch missile strikes against frostbite accumulations in Tajikistan

    The Russian-Tajik state border as such does not exist, and the visa regime must be introduced immediately. To start.
  • Yankuz
    Yankuz 25 March 2013 20: 28 New
    0
    This is all political and economic blackmail on the part of the Tajik leadership, and the rest of the local replicas there. What is not clear here. They don’t understand that they shouldn’t speak blackmail with a country like Russia. Goes around comes around!
  • Karabin
    Karabin 25 March 2013 20: 40 New
    -1
    "It will be enough!"

    Costs of the foreign policy doctrine of "soft power", her mother.

    It remains to be hoped that politicians will be found in Moscow, which the Tajik leadership will literally explain with their fingers that endless bargaining with unilateral demands usually does not lead to anything good. And if it does, it’s not at all for the side that has started such a dubious trade.

    Why so florid? I translate: Will there be politicians in Moscow who will put Rahmon on? I doubt.
  • patriot2
    patriot2 25 March 2013 20: 55 New
    0
    Alexey +
    Well, with humor, put all the dots over the "i". But the minus slapped only a member of the Tajik parliament laughing
  • Zomanus
    Zomanus 26 March 2013 00: 05 New
    +2
    Hmm. Like all the former Central Asian and Caucasian republics have something to blackmail us with. And not only them. Gabala, Sevastopol, this Nurek ... So of course it’s easy to block the Tajik border and take revenge. Only here it is necessary to calculate the loss to begin with. And maybe it's time to begin to act in political ways, and not stupid force.
  • Vrungel78
    Vrungel78 26 March 2013 14: 28 New
    0
    Rahmon, come to us. Sweeping Red Square lol
  • Semyon Albertovich
    Semyon Albertovich 26 March 2013 17: 09 New
    0
    What a geopolitical sage has convinced our authorities that Russian bases in Tajikistan are necessary - is it not Zhirinovsky, who wants to wash his boots in the Indian Ocean. So I’ll tell you a secret, the base there is completely useless, only extra and completely unnecessary expenses. Enough of the illusions of eternal friendship.
  • T-130
    T-130 26 March 2013 20: 00 New
    0
    Exactly a long time ago it was time to withdraw the base and put the Iron Curtain!
    1. Denis
      Denis 26 March 2013 20: 08 New
      +1
      Quote: T-130
      withdraw the base and put the iron curtain
      And who will make such a decision, who in every possible way protects the poor gastrik?
      It’s not because of great love that they create, they just need extremely cheap labor at their own construction sites and other industries
      Therefore, we will continue to listen to fairy tales about friendship and internationalism