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The Ministry of Internal Affairs and suppliers came into conflict over the quality of helmets and body armor

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The Ministry of Internal Affairs and suppliers came into conflict over the quality of helmets and body armorSerious accusations against the supplier of body armor and helmets were made to the Ministry of Internal Affairs. According to the ministry, the helmets made in China were intended not for the police, but for use in the steel industry. Documentation was faked. The supplier of products for half a billion rubles "violently" refutes these accusations and even filed a lawsuit against the Ministry of Internal Affairs.


The Ministry of Internal Affairs of Russia announced the termination with the Zashchita Corporation of the previously concluded contract worth 500 million rubles for the supply of protective helmets, body armor and armored vehicles. The contract was signed in the summer of 2012 of the year, but during the inspection of the Ministry of Internal Affairs it turned out that this company had violated the requirements of the state order.

Under the terms of the contract, the products supplied were to be produced in Russia and have documents confirming the state tests. However, it turned out that Zashchita Corporation supplied the Ministry of Internal Affairs with helmets and body armor purchased in China. “In particular, helmets were intended for use in the steel industry, their labeling was deliberately replaced by an artisanal method, and the documentation was forged,” the press service of the Main Directorate of Internal Security of the Ministry of Internal Affairs said.

During the inspection of helmets and bullet-proof vests supplied by the Ministry of the Interior, it also became clear that the means of protection did not ensure the level of bullet resistance stated in the state contract.

The verification materials will be sent to the investigating authorities for a procedural decision, the Ministry of Internal Affairs notes. The Office intends to also require the payment of penalties.

By law, the customer has the right to terminate the contract with the employer in case of non-fulfillment or improper fulfillment of the requirements of the order, as well as to impose fines and deduct them from the cost of the state order.

In turn, the corporation "Protection" charges the Ministry of Internal Affairs refutes and does not admit its guilt.

As the general director of the company, Alexander Shor, said, the company entered into nine contracts last summer. “But there was a rather lengthy procedure for acceptance of this product by the bodies of the Ministry of Internal Affairs. Despite the complete readiness of the products, we could not deliver it, it is in warehouses. There are no documents proving that it is of poor quality. It is confirmed by the relevant test reports. I deny all the information about handicraft production with fury. How Russian vehicles can be Chinese - Ural, Gazel, and so on, I don’t understand, ”RIA quotes Alexander Shor.News».

In response to the prosecution, Zashchita Corporation filed a lawsuit against the Ministry of Internal Affairs with the Arbitration Court. “We have filed lawsuits in arbitration, we are waiting for the date of the court hearing,” said the general director of the company. According to him, the lawsuit was sent a week ago, and representatives of Zashchita received a claim from the Ministry of Internal Affairs three weeks ago.

The tender for the supply of helmets, body armor and armored vehicles, which Zashchita won, was announced in June 2012. In November, 2012, four more tenders were announced for the supply of almost 56 thousand new body armor for the Ministry of Internal Affairs worth 916 million rubles. As the media wrote, half of this amount was planned to be spent on the purchase of 44,5 thous. Vest of 2 protection class, which are equipped with pockets for a Makarov pistol, a spare shop, a radio station, a gas canister, and a Kalashnikov machine gun. Their weight can reach eight kilograms, and the average cost - 13 thousand rubles.

In addition, the Ministry of Internal Affairs ordered 10,5 thousand of more expensive and durable body armor 5-th class of protection, which are equipped with side protection, aprons and collars and, as a rule, are issued to fighters traveling to the North Caucasus. Such vests weigh up to 13 kg and cost 40 – 45 thousand rubles.

This is not the first case in the past few years, when the Ministry of Internal Affairs identifies cases of fraud in the purchase of body armor. Thus, in 2010, the media reported that the engineering department of the Main Interior Committee of the Interior Ministry of the Interior Ministry purchased several tens of thousands of repaired body armor under the guise of new ones from CLASS.

In addition, it was found that the NGO changed the thickness of the armor plates and the steel grade, due to which the body armor became heavier by two kilograms - to 15 kilograms. As a result, the Interior Ministry did not renew the contract with the head of the engineering department. However, information about the initiation of criminal proceedings was not.

In 2008, the former head of the supply department of the Main Rocket and Artillery Directorate (GRAU) of the Russian Ministry of Defense Valery Znakhurko was sent to court. According to the investigation, the department headed by him in 1999 – 2005 bought from the Moscow company “Artess” for troops in the North Caucasus armored vests that were unsuitable for the protection of life and health. During the examination, most body armor were pierced. The Major General was accused of fraud and abuse of office.

According to the investigation, the supplier ordered cheap, low-quality products to appropriate the price difference. The main business partner in this matter was Tatyana Romanova, co-owner of “Ardessa”. In total, Romanova sold the army about 14 thousand armored vests for 203 million rubles. Of these, 93 million rubles Znakhurko and Romanov arrogated to themselves. In 2011, they were sentenced to four years in prison each.
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  1. klimpopov
    klimpopov 20 March 2013 11: 46 New
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    The eternal theme ... While working in a sewing factory that sewed uniforms for the Moscow Region, I personally saw what quality, and control exemlars were sewn separately and had the right quality ...
    But here we go further wassat
    However, it turned out that the Zashchita Corporation supplied the Ministry of Internal Affairs with helmets and body armor purchased in China. “In particular, helmets were intended for use in the steel industry, their markings were deliberately replaced by a makeshift method, and the documentation was falsified,” the press service of the Main Directorate of Internal Security of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of the Russian Federation said.

    A lot of thieves and crooks in Russia, to plant - not to transplant ...
    1. Sasha 19871987
      Sasha 19871987 20 March 2013 12: 29 New
      +5
      madhouse .. human lives are priceless ... going crazy in the pursuit of the ruble ...
    2. vanya
      vanya 20 March 2013 12: 29 New
      +4
      shoot do not shoot
    3. Nicholas C.
      Nicholas C. 20 March 2013 12: 38 New
      +5
      Apparently, one took a rollback from them, but then a new minister Kolokoltsev came and began to accept another.
    4. Mikado
      Mikado 20 March 2013 13: 51 New
      0
      So, do they sew a uniform for MO sons or right now no longer?
      1. klimpopov
        klimpopov 20 March 2013 13: 54 New
        +1
        No, we’ve got a "no sneak" for ourselves, such normal girls laughing , an ordinary sewing factory (now defunct), sewed for the Ministry of Internal Affairs and for the Moscow Region and for the FSO ...
    5. Krilion
      Krilion 20 March 2013 14: 06 New
      +2
      however, the dangerous work of the Chinese steelworkers ... apparently they shoot at them and immediately in the head ....
    6. Kortik
      Kortik 20 March 2013 14: 43 New
      +4
      It was necessary to put “broniki” on the manufacturers and automatically test their quality with an automatic burst. Unfortunately, the overwhelming majority of people do not understand how to live and work honestly, without trying to "pull" their neighbor.
      1. d.gksueyjd
        d.gksueyjd 20 March 2013 17: 29 New
        +1
        You got ahead of me with your proposal, but everything is simple: guaranteed protection of 10m from a shot from a PM, etc. Put "on the guarantor of quality" and check in practice. If the “bronik” withstands the Ministry of Internal Affairs, they are obliged to drop the charge, but if not, there won’t be any more stealing!
    7. military
      military 20 March 2013 16: 24 New
      0
      Quote: klimpopov
      A lot of thieves and crooks in Russia, to plant - not to transplant ...

      instead of helmets - protective helmets of Chinese steelmakers ... instead of "broniks" - weighting vests from diving ammunition ...
      nothing changes in Russia ...
  2. Vanek
    Vanek 20 March 2013 11: 49 New
    +6
    What did you want from the Chinese helmets?

    I wonder which side will be the court? On the side of those who are hoping for body armor or on the "Protection" side? The Ministry of Internal Affairs is risking life, and these ..... Chinese helmets ......

    How so?
    1. klimpopov
      klimpopov 20 March 2013 11: 55 New
      +3
      Instead of these Chinese helmets, you can just as well put a galvanized bucket on your head and cut holes for the eyes. And I saw the original - very serious and smaller in weight, and it keeps the “Makar” point blank. If equipped with such - it will be just super!
  3. vjatsergey
    vjatsergey 20 March 2013 11: 59 New
    +3
    For 93 ml. rubles 4 years, and for a billion or more then there should be a lifetime minimum.
    1. sanyabasik
      sanyabasik 20 March 2013 13: 26 New
      +4
      Quote: vjatsergey
      For 93 ml. rubles 4 years, and for a billion or more then there should be a lifetime minimum.


      yeah .. maximum 4 months of house arrest in 13 rooms tongue
  4. 755962
    755962 20 March 2013 12: 00 New
    +2
    Again solid riddles ..
    "Protection" is indignant: body armor was checked on pigs, and not one was hurt

    Protection "categorically disagrees with the wording of the Ministry of Internal Affairs. As the general director of the company Alexander Shor explained to RIA" Novosti ", nine contracts were concluded between" Protection "and the Ministry of Internal Affairs, but" there was a rather lengthy procedure for acceptance of these products by the Ministry of Internal Affairs ", as a result they passed it like this and they couldn’t, although there are no documents proving that it is of poor quality. "I deny all information about handicraft production with fury. How Russian equipment can be Chinese - Ural, Gazelle cars and so on, I don’t understand, ”Shor is indignant.

    The General Director claims that all products were manufactured at Russian enterprises and fully met all the requirements specified in the contract. Every tenth element of automobile armor, including glass and sheet steel, was fired without fail before installing it on trucks, Shor told the Kommersant newspaper. Personal protective equipment passed similar tests: experts fired on mannequins dressed in bulletproof vests and even put them on live pigs, and not a single animal was injured.

    The businessman claims that because of the conflict with the Ministry of Internal Affairs, his company specifically ordered biomedical research of its products in the test centers of the Ministry of Defense and received the corresponding quality certificates. However, as the director general said, the police department for some reason did not accept these documents. According to him, Zashchita has already filed a lawsuit against the Ministry of Internal Affairs with the Moscow Arbitration Court.



    http://www.newsru.com/russia/20mar2013/zachita.html
    1. klimpopov
      klimpopov 20 March 2013 12: 02 New
      +5
      This is not a mystery, but a topic for thought to prosecutors.
      Who, where, when, whom, on... cheated ...
      I won’t be surprised if in China there are factories producing "Russian Urals" the temptation is great ...
      1. Vladimirets
        Vladimirets 20 March 2013 12: 17 New
        +7
        Quote: klimpopov
        I won’t be surprised if in China there are factories producing "Russian Urals" the temptation is great ...

        And I would not be surprised if the businessman who needed a suitcase did not bring it to the Ministry of Internal Affairs, but he was urgently asked.
        1. klimpopov
          klimpopov 20 March 2013 12: 19 New
          +1
          Well, yes, if you look comprehensively, then a little factory and a suitcase ...
        2. baltika-18
          baltika-18 20 March 2013 12: 26 New
          +3
          Quote: Vladimirets
          And I would not be surprised if the businessman who needed a suitcase did not bring it to the Ministry of Internal Affairs, but he was urgently asked.

          By the way, also an option ......
          A rather muddy story .......
          But they definitely steal ....... maybe even both sides ......
          Kush was not divided ...
        3. WS
          WS 20 March 2013 15: 42 New
          +1
          I had to ask him in Chinese
      2. WS
        WS 20 March 2013 15: 41 New
        +1
        How Russian equipment can be Chinese - Ural, Gazelle cars and so on, I don’t understand. ”

        In the course of Gazelle-Business, 50% of the parts are Chinese, what can I say if the Darmstadt company SCHENCK completes machines from Chinese parts (the bed is made of some sort of polymer concrete or something)., I think it’s not worth continuing any further.
    2. donchepano
      donchepano 20 March 2013 13: 16 New
      +2
      Quote: 755962
      "Protection" is indignant: body armor was checked on pigs, and not one was hurt


      An interesting picture: pigs in bulletproof vests in Chinese helmets moving in formation in a convoy of three
      1. carbofo
        carbofo 21 March 2013 11: 10 New
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        Quote: donchepano
        An interesting picture: pigs in bulletproof vests in Chinese helmets moving in formation in a convoy of three


        Unfortunately, how cops behave in many situations, it is precisely this association that arises.
    3. SSR
      SSR 20 March 2013 17: 36 New
      0
      Quote: 755962
      Personal protective equipment passed similar tests: experts fired on mannequins dressed in body armor and even put them on live pigs, and not a single animal was injured.

      Excuse me please .. but honestly I laughed .......
      Laughed with the words and checked the cartridges .....
      and then it even became sad .. that * we need to check everything, including those checking it.
      1. GELEZNII_KAPUT
        GELEZNII_KAPUT 20 March 2013 18: 38 New
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        and if also certificates are fake !!! then experts will be suspended for eggs ... by the way, something is not their comment on this occasion! bully
    4. carbofo
      carbofo 21 March 2013 11: 08 New
      +1
      Maybe they didn’t give a rollback?
  5. UzRus
    UzRus 20 March 2013 12: 02 New
    +2
    In 2011, they were sentenced to four years in prison. - A strange punishment for the price of life of 14000 fighters ...
  6. erased
    erased 20 March 2013 12: 02 New
    +3
    Unsuitable armor suppliers should also put this armor on the landfill for trunks.
    He in armor sent such people for slaughter, let them feel all the charm.
  7. Llirik
    Llirik 20 March 2013 12: 04 New
    +3
    Question: are only bulletproof vests and helmets in contracts with "Protection"? After all, an intra-departmental struggle for kickbacks is also possible, it was too sweet a sweet pie.
  8. Stiletto
    Stiletto 20 March 2013 12: 06 New
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    Why argue? The builder should put this bucket on his head and use the same “Makar” to test it. And everything will immediately fall into place - both in the helmet and in the head.
    1. klimpopov
      klimpopov 20 March 2013 12: 14 New
      +1
      I just put a plus +! If I could put a lot of pluses! good
  9. Megadan
    Megadan 20 March 2013 12: 08 New
    +4
    Quote: klimpopov
    to plant - do not transplant ..

    For sho? For tradition? belay
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UCeEptma8_0
  10. Alex45
    Alex45 20 March 2013 12: 09 New
    +4
    Why the Ministry of Internal Affairs cannot directly purchase from the manufacturer? Again, the intermediary is trying to "cut the loot."
    1. vladsolo56
      vladsolo56 20 March 2013 12: 41 New
      +3
      accurately and most likely they didn’t share the broth with someone from the Ministry of Internal Affairs, so the noise turned out
    2. Mikado
      Mikado 20 March 2013 13: 58 New
      +1
      because the Ministry of Internal Affairs is a government agency and it should conduct procurement auctions
  11. Apollo
    Apollo 20 March 2013 12: 13 New
    +2
    only the court, and only he has the right to put an end to all this complicated story. But what courts we have is a separate story. A vicious circle.
    1. Vanek
      Vanek 20 March 2013 12: 14 New
      +1
      Quote: Apollon
      vicious circle


      Vicious?
    2. knn54
      knn54 20 March 2013 13: 07 New
      +7
      Apollon. The most terrible and humane in the world ...
      As Shurik Sher said, they mixed up with a batch of night pots for the hospital of the Ministry of Internal Affairs.
      Dunno on the Moon (N. Nosov)
      - And who are these policemen? - asked herring.
      - Bandits! - said Spikelet with irritation. - Honestly, bandits! In fact, the duty of the police is to protect the population from robbers, but in reality they protect only the rich. And the rich are the real robbers. They only rob us, hiding behind the laws that they themselves come up with. And what, tell me, is the difference, according to the law, they will rob me or not according to the law? I do not care!
      - Here you are somehow wonderful! - said Vintik. “Why are you obeying the police and these ... as you call them rich?”
      - Try not to listen here, when everything is in their hands: the land, and factories, and money, and, in addition, weapons!
      PS A thief stole a baton from a thief. There were at least cops, and now .. ponty? But seriously, you need to check the batons, are they not inflatable?
      1. WS
        WS 20 March 2013 15: 47 New
        0
        Checked not inflatable belay
      2. carbofo
        carbofo 21 March 2013 11: 14 New
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        Quote: knn54
        - And who are these policemen? - asked herring.
        - Bandits! - said Spikelet with irritation.


        The good old "The Adventures of the Pencil and Samodelkin", author of nostradamus.
  12. Havoc
    Havoc 20 March 2013 12: 13 New
    +6
    As they used to check the quality of construction, for example, bridges, the architect in the boat and under the bridge, they gave maximum load to the bridge, if the bridge withstood it means the architect is alive, that’s how it is with bulletproof vests, they took any of the finished party, dressed them in directors, shot, stayed alive means you can pass it to the customer.
    1. klimpopov
      klimpopov 20 March 2013 12: 21 New
      +3
      Wash with bridges and now so, bridge builders have such a tradition. Not so long ago, we took a bridge across the Kuban (after the flood of 2002 of the year, we just built it). So all the bosses went under the bridge, and on the mots were KamAZs with sand. Then on the bridge in the middle of the tables with a "clearing" ...
      1. WS
        WS 20 March 2013 15: 56 New
        0
        What is really done? I just heard that before when they were repairing or testing new aircraft, a special squad took those who participated in the manufacture or repair in flight.

        Do you remember when the son of Margelov V.F. on BMD for the first time in the world successfully jumped?
        They say his father had a gun ready with one cartridge. There used to be people!
    2. Mikado
      Mikado 20 March 2013 13: 55 New
      0
      the director’s ribs aren’t enough; for each customer, substitute his carcass for a bullet
      1. GELEZNII_KAPUT
        GELEZNII_KAPUT 20 March 2013 18: 49 New
        0
        Well, if he’s just a huckster, then of course it’s not enough, but if you designed and manufactured your own (there may be a bit of this), then you can take part a couple of times ... drinks
  13. sashka
    sashka 20 March 2013 12: 20 New
    0
    It’s cool .. We take it, why .. Don’t worry .. We need to report on the “execution” and everything will be fine .. So the people are on the “business” .. The budget is fulfilled. And the fact that it doesn’t matter from our pocket. Glory !! ! And of course, medals like a humpback ..
  14. LaGlobal
    LaGlobal 20 March 2013 12: 34 New
    0
    Serious accusations against the supplier of body armor and helmets were made to the Ministry of Internal Affairs. According to the ministry, the helmets made in China were intended not for the police, but for use in the steel industry. Documentation was faked. The supplier of products for half a billion rubles "violently" refutes these accusations and even filed a lawsuit against the Ministry of Internal Affairs.


    What the hell, you ask, did you buy in China?
    The supplier, then yes, everything will be denied! And what remains for him to do, except how not to answer for what he has done. And the Ministry of Internal Affairs - what a structure! Could not check the supplier?
  15. ed65b
    ed65b 20 March 2013 12: 35 New
    +3
    Someone is lying. I don’t think that in the “defense” frank suckers are sitting and the steelworker's helmets will push through the cops and even change the marking in a makeshift way
    (did the Tajiks work?). In China, they will be given any marking at the factory. Rather, the grandmother wants to fit the dibs to cut.
    1. GELEZNII_KAPUT
      GELEZNII_KAPUT 20 March 2013 18: 53 New
      0
      Yes, hell knows, we shove this at construction sites in Russia, these helmets just smoke aside !!!
  16. vladsolo56
    vladsolo56 20 March 2013 12: 40 New
    +1
    In general, nonsense, who prevents the Ministry of Internal Affairs from directly concluding agreements with manufacturers? most likely one of the suppliers in the Ministry of Internal Affairs was also in share with intermediaries. Surely they offended him and here the facts of fraud surfaced. Have survived
    1. olegff68
      olegff68 20 March 2013 13: 45 New
      0
      And how much do we know manufacturers mass-producing products for the police? That's where the dog is buried !!! We know who makes cars for the US police, sews uniforms, makes weapons - because these manufacturers have long-term contracts and supply products to police throughout the country. In our country, regional administrations themselves choose from whom to buy uniforms, cars, etc. if purchases are made at the federal level, then they are made once - hence the price and quality and compliance with the requirements and muddy stories.
    2. Mikado
      Mikado 20 March 2013 13: 56 New
      0
      These are the rules of the game. If the contract is worth more than 100t.r., then you are obliged to conduct an auction, and there the one who will give the lesser amount and not whose quality is better will already win. Directly, you are not entitled to conclude any contracts with such amounts.
      1. vladsolo56
        vladsolo56 20 March 2013 16: 29 New
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        If the seller is an intermediary, then what auction, what kind of nonsense, Only manufacturers should be allowed to auction, and if an intermediary takes part in it, it’s clear to the fool that he cut the budget money. This is the same as concluding a construction contract with an intermediary.
  17. zao74
    zao74 20 March 2013 12: 53 New
    +2
    How the introduction of the death penalty in Russia suggests itself.
    1. WS
      WS 20 March 2013 15: 59 New
      0
      Will there be executioners?
      1. GELEZNII_KAPUT
        GELEZNII_KAPUT 20 March 2013 18: 57 New
        0
        stand in line yet !!! same scumbags !!! to deceive, throw, fill up ... "work", no morality !!!
  18. Lopatov
    Lopatov 20 March 2013 13: 17 New
    +1
    And I was waiting for the start of the “Protection” watering. You can buy seeds, the show begins

    The idea is creative, blaming the company for cheating is a beautiful move. But execution ... Two points!
    Pearl Helmets Targeted for use in the steel industry, their markings were deliberately replaced in a makeshift way, and the documentation was tampered with "should be entered into textbooks on information wars as an example of what should not be done.

    Hence the moral: VPK managers should provide texts the next time. And then, money, you see, paid, they hoped for the performers, but they failed.
  19. valokordin
    valokordin 20 March 2013 13: 22 New
    +1
    Quote: zao74
    How the introduction of the death penalty in Russia suggests itself.

    To equate the actions of these suppliers, which threaten the lives of our soldiers with treason, and shoot, and if aggravating circumstances, then life imprisonment in a penal colony. There is no comrade Stalin on these villains. And that the Ministry of Internal Affairs did not control the manufacturing technology or they are in share. And so for 93 million 4 years of the colony, Not bad for hooliganism or robbery of a smartphone. Sentenced and 46 million in your pocket. Not a bad business. There is no confiscation, but money. And then what a nightmare in Cyprus they wanted to take away 10% of the money stolen in Russia, but it seemed to blow, and now Cyprus will again be given 6-7 mrd. euro loan, probably without a return, like in Iraq., but so that the stolen money is not touched. Yes, you know that a bracelet on Vasilyeva’s leg, like the others, no matter what, costs 150 rubles. at its actual cost of 000 rubles.
    1. Cpa
      Cpa 20 March 2013 14: 30 New
      +1
      The budget allocator is always to blame. He appoints an expert commission before acceptance. They don’t buy pencils. Cheburashki need to shake the procurement and logistics department, the selection committee is under arrest. They know who and what to buy from. No competitions are held, everywhere is common. Usually, retired generals open such companies, as well as those who are engaged in technical inspections. The goal is to direct financial flows only through their trusted people. And that means someone threw someone.
  20. VadimSt
    VadimSt 20 March 2013 13: 49 New
    0
    It always has been! MegaDan is right in giving an assessment to the post: - "Plant, do not transplant."
    Quote: MegaDan
    For sho? For tradition?


    If you want to get the first equipment - bring the "suitcase", you want to take pictures yourself - "carry the suitcase", you want to go on vacation according to the schedule - bring the "suitcase", you want to get the next one - bring the "suitcase", you want to transfer successfully - "carry the suitcase" and etc ............................................... ..
    If you remove everyone who wants a “suitcase”, an unplanned reduction of 20-30% will result in any system.
  21. georg737577
    georg737577 20 March 2013 13: 50 New
    0
    With such “suppliers”, external enemies are not needed.
  22. Zlyden.Zlo
    Zlyden.Zlo 20 March 2013 14: 02 New
    0
    Mutilovo continuous. Who to believe?
  23. sashka
    sashka 20 March 2013 14: 10 New
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    Quote: knn54
    But seriously, you need to check the batons, not inflatable?

    Most likely this is the only thing that we have is not "inflatable". Otherwise, how can you put you in place for "inconvenient" questions .. What if you ask them to legalize weapons .. Or smoke at the bus stop or on the balcony from next year?. Just a cigarette. Yes, you’re an old rebel.
  24. Botanologist
    Botanologist 20 March 2013 14: 29 New
    +1
    The Ministry of Internal Affairs itself needs less rushing around and more specifically determined with suppliers.
    Tell me, here you are the owner of the company, for example, for the production of helmets. The products are unique, not cheap and not consumer goods. And here you are sitting and wondering whether he will buy helmets from the Ministry of Internal Affairs or order them in Spain, for example. Or where else. And how much will you guess? After all, taxes are dropping, wages must be paid.
    And by chance they give you an order. And whether there will be another order and when - no one knows.
    How normal business?
    Therefore, until the Ministry of Internal Affairs determines a permanent supplier, places its acceptance there, determines a procurement plan, we won’t talk about any guarantees. There will be a lottery - either everyone steals, or half.
    1. Radioman
      Radioman 20 March 2013 15: 43 New
      +2
      Quote: Botanologist
      The Ministry of Internal Affairs itself needs less rushing around and more specifically determined with suppliers ....


      Absolutely right. This is precisely the main problem of public procurement, and not only deliveries to the Ministry of Internal Affairs. Purchase of helmets, body armor, etc. It should be carried out on a competitive basis, but only certain firms should participate in the competition. I mean the companies included in the defense complex of the Russian Federation. TK is issued by the customer (Ministry of Internal Affairs, Ministry of Defense, etc.), forms tactical and technical requirements, manufacturers develop products and send them out to check the customer for compliance with the requirements. Whose products will be tested - those firms are allowed to participate in the competition at a price. Such a system worked under the USSR and worked well.
  25. Volkhov
    Volkhov 20 March 2013 15: 17 New
    +1
    Under the tsar, Colonel Chemerzin decided the question - the defense kept Maxim's bullets, now hemorrhoids are treated forever - it is so convenient for supplies.

    http://topwar.ru/19191-kratkaya-istoriya-bronezhiletov-v-rossii-i-mire-2-chast.h
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    1. Lopatov
      Lopatov 20 March 2013 16: 12 New
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      Cheremezin protection is not for the mass consumer. There are numbers in the article. So, in terms of modern money (through the gold equivalent), the cheapest one that protects against revolver bullets and fragments cost 2 rubles
      1. Volkhov
        Volkhov 20 March 2013 22: 54 New
        +1
        It's not about the money - they just don’t know how to make such an alloy, this is one of the old secrets, and mass production would lower the price. The rescue vessel Commune of the Black Sea Fleet also does not rust for more than a century, and modern mechanisms on it rust.
  26. Slevinst
    Slevinst 20 March 2013 15: 19 New
    +1
    he was a very good supplier, probably because of his fault not a few people lost their health or even worse, well, it’s not so, you ask for a discount and you take the difference, and everyone is happy and the soldiers are safe and the structure did not overpay, and extra. I’ve got some money, but I wouldn’t even risk doing this while working in this kind of organization
  27. crambol
    crambol 20 March 2013 15: 40 New
    +1
    In 2011, they were sentenced to four years in prison.


    Four years for treason to the Motherland! That is why I am for Stalinism.
  28. andrey903
    andrey903 20 March 2013 16: 22 New
    0
    We have many state corporations engaged only in re-labeling
  29. rennim
    rennim 20 March 2013 16: 22 New
    0
    In 2008, the former head of the supply department of the Main Rocket and Artillery Directorate (GRAU) of the Russian Ministry of Defense Valery Znakhurko was sent to court. According to the investigation, in 1999-2005, the department headed by him purchased bulletproof vests for the troops in the North Caucasus from the Moscow-based company Artess that were unsuitable for protecting life and health. During the examination, most body armor was pierced
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    The tests of these bulletproof vests on him and it was necessary during the investigation and check ... Punch, not penetrate ...
  30. suharev-52
    suharev-52 20 March 2013 17: 11 New
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    Having before us examples of the “shoe” of the state in the person of Serdyukov and Vasilyeva. And the rest, who have the opportunity to bite off the state pie, want a lot and immediately. It has already happened to us: the more you steal, the less you get. Sincerely.
  31. igorspb
    igorspb 20 March 2013 23: 41 New
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    Most likely, after the story with the Moscow Region, the leadership of the Ministry of Internal Affairs was simply frightened that they might be taken by the ass, but the director of the Defense does not understand the nature, they took the rollback, but they don’t take the goods)) that’s outraged ....