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Iranian destroyer Jamaran-2 launched

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Iranian naval forces launched a new destroyer of domestic production, Jamaran-2, into the waters of the Caspian Sea, Iranian television reported on Sunday.


“The presence of Iran in the waters is aimed at strengthening peace, friendship and cooperation among the Caspian littoral states,” said President of the Islamic Republic Mahmoud Ahmadinejad during the ceremony.

According to local media, the construction of the ship used a new generation of technology - an updated navigation and integrated security systems.

"Jamaran-2" will be part of the country's Navy after the end of testing, ITAR-TASS.

The new destroyer is an upgraded version of the Jamaran-1, which the Iranian Navy in the Persian Gulf received in February 2010.
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  1. domokl
    domokl 18 March 2013 10: 05 New
    +3
    Interesting ... It turns out that the Iranian fleet in the Caspian has the most powerful ship?
    1. Trailer
      Trailer 18 March 2013 10: 30 New
      +5
      Yesterday I returned from Baku. Handsomely. The promenade and port are powerful! And on the topic:

      And we are like this:

      The Kazakhstan missile and artillery ship is an enlarged version of the Zenit project under construction from the 2005 of the year for the Frontier Service of Kazakhstan of large patrol boats of the 0300 project (Bars code). The 0300 project is the local designation for the 22180 project, developed by Kazakh order by the St. Petersburg OJSC Northern PCB. To date, the Zenit plant has built three boats of the 0300 project (Sardar, Sakshi and Zhenis) for the Border Guard Service of Kazakhstan and is building the fourth one.

      A variant of the 0300 project being built for the Navy of Kazakhstan, the head unit of which was Kazakhstan (tail number "250"), is distinguished by the hull length increased from 40,6 to 46 and the architecture has changed. The standard displacement of the rocket and artillery ship is declared in 240 tons, and the highest speed - in 30 knots (the speed of the basic 0300 project reaches 28 knots). Missile weapons on the lead ship, as you can tell, have not yet been established, but presumably include the 3M47 Gibka anti-aircraft missile system (using the Igla-S portable 9M342 missiles) and the 9M120 Attack anti-tank guided missile launcher. Artillery armament consists of one old 25-mm twin artillery mount 2M-3М and one paired 23-mm artillery mount.

      In 2012 and 2013, the Navy of Kazakhstan intends to arm itself with two more ships of the same type. In 2016, in Kazakhstan, a training station for the Navy will be launched.
      1. Yarbay
        Yarbay 18 March 2013 12: 33 New
        +5
        Quote: Karavan
        Yesterday I returned from Baku. Handsomely. The promenade and port are powerful!

        It was necessary to write off!
        I would have met)))
        A new port is being built, much more!
      2. alex-defensor
        alex-defensor 18 March 2013 19: 41 New
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        Quote: Karavan
        And we are like this:


        Мы certainly must be strong everywhere and in everything !!! BUT!!! We are NOT to them ... for they are not our enemies!
    2. old rocket man
      old rocket man 18 March 2013 10: 38 New
      +3
      Quote: domokl
      Interesting ... It turns out that the Iranian fleet in the Caspian has the most powerful ship?

      Greetings, what is the armament data?
      In my opinion, our new RTOs will not completely yield to him
      1. Logs
        Logs 18 March 2013 15: 13 New
        0
        Before our scientists they work and work fellow
    3. Tersky
      Tersky 18 March 2013 11: 09 New
      +7
      Quote: domokl
      Interesting ... It turns out that the Iranian fleet in the Caspian has the most powerful ship?

      Alexander, hi ! It is unlikely that TTX
      General performance characteristics of the destroyers of the project “moudge” of the Iranian Navy:

      It is long - 94,5 meters, width 11 meters;
      Displacement - 1420 tons;
      Speed ​​- 30 knots;
      Draft - 3,2 meters;
      Crew - 140 man.

      The armament of the destroyers of the project “Moudge” of the Iranian Navy:
      Artillery weapons: one fajr 27 gun (analogue of the 76 melara / mk75) one gun of 40 mm caliber;
      Torpedo tubes - two 324 mm units;
      Antiship systems - four noor systems (analogue of yj-82 (c-802))
      Machine guns - two machine guns with a caliber of 20 mm
      And for comparison, the weapons of "Tatarstan":
      Radar weapons:
      MP-352 "Positive"
      Monolith fire control radar (RCC)
      MPZ-301 "Base" (SAM)
      MP-123 "Pennant" (AU)
      electronic warfare system
      Electronic weapons:
      2 PC-16 passive jammers
      Artillery weapons:
      1x76 mm AU AK-176
      2x6 30 mm AU AK-630M
      2x2 14,5 mm KPVT
      Anti-ship weapons:
      2x4 PU RCC X-35 "Uranus" / Caliber-NK
      Anti-submarine weapons:
      2x2 533 mm TA
      1x12 RBU-6000
      Anti-aircraft weapons:
      1 Osa-MA air defense system - 20 9M33 missiles
      2 MANPADS "Igla-M"
      Aviation Group 1 Ka-27 anti-submarine helicopter. If we take into account the fact that "Tatarstan" was launched on July 1, 1993, then Iran with its "Jamaran-2" is not standing next to it.
    4. Lord of the Sith
      Lord of the Sith 18 March 2013 12: 02 New
      +2
      This meant the most powerful ship from the Iranian fleet, and not the most powerful ship among all fleets.
      Video and photo
      [media = http: //www.youtube.com/watch? feature = player_embedded & v = HEO4qRYG6Ek]



    5. Beck
      Beck 18 March 2013 13: 16 New
      +5
      Iran released the destroyer into the Caspian - the destroyer. This is not a couple of Russian patrol watch "Tatarstan" and "Dagestan", and artillery boats, especially boats of Kazakhstan.

      And what? Again we will scream Hurray, if only the West would pocket in our pocket. This fig is a destroyer for all of us, in the Caspian Sea, need you, huh? I agree to drown him in aviation, to soak two fingers in the Caspian. But the "good" neighbor didn’t let him into the water? Amer to evil, or what? They are opposed to Iranian nuclear weapons, so here you are a destroyer in the Caspian Sea, he will show them Kuzkin’s mother in the sands of Nevada.

      And why they say that Ahmadinejad is a Muslim. He is the purest Jesuit. His words are completely Jesuit.

      “The presence of Iran in the waters is aimed at strengthening peace, friendship and cooperation between the Caspian states”- said the President of the Islamic Republic Mahmoud Ahmadinejad during the ceremony.

      Crap, all the crooks and scammers, and not live after such words, the President of Iran. And after all his face did not bend and cheekbones did not reduce. It was as if he was talking about launching a passenger ferry for friendly communications between the Iranian Enzili and Russian Astrakhan.

      If so, just to bite the United States, we will relate to Iran. Then in one gloomy day for us, Iran will lower an atomic ship into the Caspian or under water. And with a “friendly” smile on his face and filthy words on his lips.
      1. Hunter thomson
        Hunter thomson 18 March 2013 13: 56 New
        +4
        Well written! A friend of the AUG of the US Navy, led by Nimmits, will leave the mouth of the Volga, and here he will be met by a shaitan-destroyer! Although the destroyer is 1400 tons. apparently 2000 tons will be called a cruiser and 4000 aircraft carrier. Corvette in reality with very modest weapons. I’m thinking. Are they Iranians so joking, do they keep all around for idiots or we just don’t understand some special Persian trick? Their destroyers are the size of a boat, fifth-generation aircraft are made of plywood, but the pilot must be midget, UAVs are superior to the US, their S-300s are better than the Russian ones .... Probably we don’t understand something.
        1. strannik595
          strannik595 18 March 2013 15: 28 New
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          Nimmits from the mouth of the Volga ....... and up to the Volga on the Russian Railways (or black negligers, as an option)
          1. strannik595
            strannik595 18 March 2013 15: 37 New
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            delivery Nimmits to the Volga
        2. strannik595
          strannik595 18 March 2013 15: 41 New
          +1
          Nimmits from the mouth of the Volga ....... and to the Volga on the Russian Railways (or barge haulers, as an option)
      2. evil hamster
        evil hamster 18 March 2013 15: 23 New
        +1
        Hmmm, and if the Persians called this live cruiser you would be killed in a panic about the capital RC structure?
      3. leon-iv
        leon-iv 18 March 2013 15: 55 New
        -1
        Iran released destroyer into Caspian - Destroyer
        My father-in-law also has a boat with a water cannon on the Volga. Let me call her Aircraft Carrier? Cho pontovo same)))
        They are opposed to Iranian nuclear weapons, so here you are a destroyer in the Caspian Sea, he will show them Kuzkin’s mother in the sands of Nevada.
        this scandal can drive fishermen current and it is not clear with what success. For every boat with powerful engines from it will fly like a bird
        An Iranian nuclear ship will be lowered into the Caspian or under water. And with a “friendly” smile on his face and filthy words on his lips.
        and what next by this time we are more likely to have imperial starships.
        But even then, good guys will fly with stars on the planes and explain what is good and what is bad.
        1. Beck
          Beck 18 March 2013 16: 04 New
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          Quote: leon-iv
          and what next by this time we are more likely to have imperial starships


          Do not jerk. Although I also jerked. Of course, the performance characteristics of this destroyer will not be taken into account. I wrote that such a "friend" of the cheers-patriots as Ahmadinejad would lower his destroyer to the Persian Gulf, to meet the amers. And most importantly, these are the words of the president, like - I am with you in peace, with a dagger in my bosom and a ship in addition.
          1. leon-iv
            leon-iv 18 March 2013 16: 09 New
            -1
            Persian Gulf towards Amer
            Schaub those neighing too))))
            I wrote that such a “friend” of cheers-patriots as Ahmadinejad
            Thank God we do not have a bang at the helm of the country. And as current amers begin to democratize Iran. Our sawed off their entire shelf.
            1. Yarbay
              Yarbay 18 March 2013 16: 24 New
              +1
              Quote: leon-iv
              Thank God we do not have a bang at the helm of the country. And as current amers begin to democratize Iran. Our sawed off their entire shelf.

              It is possible that if they vomit, they will remain without access to the Caspian Sea!
              1. leon-iv
                leon-iv 18 March 2013 16: 25 New
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                It is possible that if they vomit, they will remain without access to the Caspian Sea!

                Are you talking about Iran?
                1. Yarbay
                  Yarbay 18 March 2013 17: 14 New
                  0
                  Quote: leon-iv
                  Are you talking about Iran?

                  about whom else .. the rest of the country knows the rules of the game well!
                  1. leon-iv
                    leon-iv 18 March 2013 17: 18 New
                    -1
                    about whom else .. the rest of the country knows the rules of the game well!
                    IMHO Iran is not a tenant It is definitely cut. It's a question of time.
                    1. Beck
                      Beck 18 March 2013 17: 27 New
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                      Quote: leon-iv
                      IMHO Iran is not a tenant It is definitely cut. It's a question of time.


                      And how do you say such words? Wait, the patriots will attack, they will start to take you. In the same place, according to them, the most meek and loving ayatollahs live. Well, they don’t want anything, the acre of introducing the New Islamic Order throughout the world. And the beginning will be global circumcision. Don’t you want this? Wow so offend Iran.
                      1. leon-iv
                        leon-iv 18 March 2013 17: 48 New
                        0
                        Wait, the patriots will attack, they will start to take you.
                        In general, anyway. I don’t care much about their opinion. I like to deal with facts.
                    2. Yarbay
                      Yarbay 18 March 2013 17: 27 New
                      +1
                      Quote: leon-iv
                      IMHO Iran is not a tenant It is definitely cut. It's a question of time.
                      I agree, but sawed as no one expects!
                      1. leon-iv
                        leon-iv 18 March 2013 17: 49 New
                        0
                        I agree, but sawed as no one expects!
                        most likely three sides will be sawing China, the Russian Federation and the USA. Well, we can be a little shaver prostitute.
                      2. Yarbay
                        Yarbay 18 March 2013 18: 17 New
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                        Quote: leon-iv
                        most likely three sides will be sawing China, the Russian Federation and the USA. Well, we can be a little shaver prostitute.

                        I think differently!
                        Now in Syria they are running in !!
                        Just after the infrastructure is destroyed, a civil war will begin, a long, bloody one!
                      3. leon-iv
                        leon-iv 18 March 2013 19: 38 New
                        0
                        Just after the infrastructure is destroyed, a civil war will begin, a long, bloody one!

                        but Iran doesn’t. There, the IRGC is strong and frostbitten. In the Civil War, that goes awry.
                      4. Yarbay
                        Yarbay 18 March 2013 22: 50 New
                        0
                        Quote: leon-iv
                        but Iran doesn’t. There, the IRGC is strong and frostbitten. In the Civil War, that goes awry.


                        Still how to get out !!
                        Those who hate this IRGC will give them no less frostbitten weapons and will hold them from the air for the first time, then they will go by themselves !!
                  2. Beck
                    Beck 18 March 2013 18: 40 New
                    0
                    Quote: leon-iv
                    most likely will be sawed by three sides of China, Russia and the United States. Well, we can be a little shaver prostitute


                    If such a cut goes, then in addition to the above-mentioned countries, somehow, from some side, under one sauce or another, with one or another success, but Azerbaijan will invariably participate. The northwest of Iran, with the city of Tabriz, is also Azerbaijan. Together with Azerbaijan, Baku they once co-created the single territory on which the Azerbaijani principalities were located, which were dependent on Iran. (Something like this).

                    According to the Gulistan Peace Treaty of 1813, signed after the end of the Russian-Persian war, new borders between Russia and Iran were determined. Russia took over the whole of Transcaucasia together with Azerbaijan Baku. Azerbaijan’s Tabriz remained under Iran’s rule. And now there live about 25 million people who consider themselves Azerbaijanis.

                    And with a big cut, the unification of Azerbaijan Baku and Azerbaijan Tabriz into one state can occur. As a result, a strong player in the politics of the Transcaucasian region may appear.
                  3. Yarbay
                    Yarbay 18 March 2013 19: 14 New
                    -1
                    Quote: Beck

                    And with a big cut, the unification of Azerbaijan Baku and Azerbaijan Tabriz into one state may occur

                    I wrote about this more than once!
                    I think this will not work !!
                    Because it is fraught with unpredictable consequences for Azerbaijan!
                    Since the mentality of Azerbaijanis living in Iran is different!
                    and it is not clear who will then steer in the general state !!
                    Possible conflicts!
                    Therefore, I think, if that simply will be one more state !!
                  4. Beck
                    Beck 18 March 2013 19: 19 New
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                    Quote: Yarbay
                    I think this will not work !! Because Azerbaijan is fraught with unpredictable consequences! Since the mentality of Azerbaijanis living in Iran is different! And it is unclear who will then steer in the common state !! Conflicts are possible! Therefore, I think if one state is simply one more !!


                    Everything can be. Of course, there will be problems above the roof. But the goal is tempting.
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                  leon-iv
                  leon-iv 18 March 2013 19: 39 New
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                  [Quote Azerbaijan will invariably participate. Northwest Iran]

                  This is a game of big uncles, nobody will let the countries of the 3rd world go there. Europe will be at maximum backing
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  • CRONOS
    CRONOS 19 March 2013 03: 26 New
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    This is a game of big uncles, nobody will let the countries of the 3rd world go there. Europe will be at maximum backing

    Well, why do you break dreams away? Let people dream. fellow And Beck is really cool to read, especially when he has a smoke. wassat good
    Personally, I think that everything in Syria will end, and it is for Syria, and not for the United States.
  • Beck
    Beck 19 March 2013 13: 15 New
    0
    Quote: CRONOS
    Let people dream. And Beck is really cool to read, especially when he has a smoke.


    No one is dreaming. People express their assumptions, then COMMUNICATION. Otherwise, why go to the site.

    And if you’re fun, then it’s good too, you’ll have fun, have a rest. And I don’t even drink beer, I don’t drink vodka, I can’t stand tobacco. Have fun.
  • Wedmak
    Wedmak 18 March 2013 10: 06 New
    0
    It's time to bring a couple of small submarines to the Caspian. A very convenient training ground for our divers.
    1. Mikado
      Mikado 18 March 2013 10: 35 New
      0
      too small for dpl
      1. Wedmak
        Wedmak 18 March 2013 10: 41 New
        -1
        Come on ... the average depth is 200 meters, the maximum is up to 1000 m. If I am not mistaken, only atomic can dive below 350.
        1. kotdavin4i
          kotdavin4i 18 March 2013 12: 26 New
          +1
          Vigorous day Dear, look at the depth map in Wikipedia at least, the entire north is shallow almost to the level of the Absheron peninsula. Where will you base these boats? If we have in Baku, then Wellcome. Always Glade. hi
          http://ru.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%9A%D0%B0%D1%81%D0%BF%D0%B8%D0%B9%D1%81%D0%BA%
          D0%BE%D0%B5_%D0%BC%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B5#section_3
          1. favn
            favn 18 March 2013 13: 20 New
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            And besides the depth map, pay attention to the map of currents, take into account their speed and inconstancy, plus a shallow depth, rocky ground ...
            1. Wedmak
              Wedmak 18 March 2013 18: 49 New
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              kotdavin4i, favn, and I said - small! Probably even small ones! A good reason to make a small reconnaissance submarine project with a crew of 10 people.
    2. Rustiger
      Rustiger 19 March 2013 08: 41 New
      0
      Already done by the Chinese -
      aircraft carrier
      )))))))))))))). Well, they’re crowded there, and the hotstsa boat is surely big like people’s!
  • bddrus
    bddrus 18 March 2013 10: 11 New
    +2
    judging by the displacement, then this is if not a battleship, then a cruiser in any way !!
    1. Arberes
      Arberes 18 March 2013 10: 15 New
      +3
      Quote: bddrus

      judging by the displacement, then this is if not a battleship, then a cruiser in any way !!

      Well, you swung!
      There a helicopter hangs over it and you can roughly compare the proportions. He has a red price of 2 thousand tons.
      But still a trifle, but nice.
      1. bddrus
        bddrus 18 March 2013 10: 54 New
        +2
        1500 tons, if they don’t lie, so the cruiser is definitely! laughing (I put a smiley instead of the word "shovel" - for serious military experts)
        1. kirieeleyson
          kirieeleyson 18 March 2013 11: 07 New
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          Well, if you have cruisers of 1500 tons, then aircraft carriers and as many as 4000 should be? Sit down, 2, young man. Read more materiel, at least look at the pictures, and then good.
          1. Aleks28
            Aleks28 18 March 2013 12: 44 New
            +4
            Quote: kirieeleyson
            Well, if you have cruisers of 1500 tons, then aircraft carriers and as many as 4000 should be? Sit down, 2, young man. Read more materiel, at least look at the pictures, and then good.

            Do you have absolutely no sense of humor? sad
            1. CRONOS
              CRONOS 18 March 2013 14: 12 New
              +2
              Sense of humor?! No, have not heard... laughing
  • Zhenya
    Zhenya 18 March 2013 10: 16 New
    +4
    O look, comrades from our shipyards, how to build ships.
    And on the topic, it’s not just that this year the Caspian flotilla immediately enters 4(!) Small missile ships (Grad Sviyazhsk, Uglich, Veliky Ustyug, Zeleny Dol), although Iran is now more an ally than an adversary, but our comrades from above are clearly concerned.
  • TRex
    TRex 18 March 2013 10: 17 New
    +3
    Ship so-so ... not impressed ... Like the ancient "Cobra" in the air ...
    Well, about the strengthening of friendship and good neighborliness in the region, we also often think and constantly take care of them, launching new combat units.
    So, gentlemen?
    1. avt
      avt 18 March 2013 10: 22 New
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      Quote: TRex
      Like the ancient "Cobra" in the air ...

      Isn't it the Iroquois? request
      Quote: Wedmak
      It's time to bring a couple of small submarines to the Caspian.

      In fact, our Iranian, "friends" planned to populate the Caspian with submarines, and only the position of Russia stopped them, there was a statement by the Foreign Ministry on this matter.
      1. Wedmak
        Wedmak 18 March 2013 10: 28 New
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        In fact, our Iranian, "friends" planned to populate the Caspian with submarines, and only the position of Russia stopped them, there was a statement by the Foreign Ministry on this matter.

        Did not know. That is, now in the Caspian there is a “kind of” ban on submarines?
        1. avt
          avt 18 March 2013 11: 19 New
          +1
          Quote: Wedmak
          Did not know. That is, now in the Caspian there is a “kind of” ban on submarines?

          Well, no one signed the documents for sure. So the nerves tickled with statements, but the fact itself is very remarkable. The section of the Caspian has not yet been framed, the contentious issues have not been fully settled.
          1. Cpa
            Cpa 18 March 2013 11: 32 New
            +2
            Quote: avt
            controversial issues are not fully settled.

            And they won’t settle it, Iran wants to divide the waters equally.
  • Dmitry 2246
    Dmitry 2246 18 March 2013 10: 17 New
    +1
    The battle for the Caspian begins. They were late along the way. We are already waiting for them. Now tremble Azerbaijan and Turkmenistan. The Iranians have dramatically changed the balance of power, but I think this is in our hands.
    1. kotdavin4i
      kotdavin4i 18 March 2013 12: 30 New
      +1
      We (Azerbaijan) purchased the Barak anti-convulsive complex (not Obama), so there is something to brush it off.
      1. Yarbay
        Yarbay 18 March 2013 12: 36 New
        +1
        Quote: kotdavin4i

        We (Azerbaijan) purchased the Barak anti-convulsive complex (not Obama), so there is something to brush it off.

        Sanya a cheerful day!
        You forgot about Uranus!
        1. Odessa
          Odessa 18 March 2013 12: 42 New
          +7
          [quote = Yarbay] [quote = kotdavin4i]

          You forgot about Uranus! [/ Quote]
          Good morning!))))))))))
          1. Yarbay
            Yarbay 18 March 2013 12: 45 New
            +1
            Quote: Odessa
            Good morning!))))))))))


            Hello, hello dear))))

            I'm talking about a rocket launcher)))))))))))
            such as Sanya said, Barack, but not Obama))))
            Uranium but not nuclear))))
      2. Windbreak
        Windbreak 18 March 2013 12: 40 New
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        Barack is an anti-aircraft complex
        1. Yarbay
          Yarbay 18 March 2013 12: 53 New
          +1
          Quote: Burel

          Barack is an anti-aircraft complex


          I think it meant the Gabriel 5 rocket!
          1. Hunter thomson
            Hunter thomson 18 March 2013 14: 02 New
            +1
            Alibek, and what is the information about Gabriel-5? Israel does not confirm the very fact of its development and existence! In my opinion, you just set up your Israeli comrades belay However, everyone began to suspect her when they refused to upgrade their harpoons.
            1. Yarbay
              Yarbay 18 March 2013 14: 48 New
              +1
              Quote: Hunter Thomson
              Alibek, and what is the information about Gabriel-5? Israel does not confirm the very fact of its development and existence!


              I heard about it for the first time from you!
              Looked in the internet!
              It seems to recognize!
              http://defense-update.com/products/g/gabriel_5.htm
              1. Hunter thomson
                Hunter thomson 18 March 2013 15: 01 New
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                Yes, apparently I drove something. Also checked, they already recognize. request For a relatively long time there was simply a topic, then they did not recognize it.
          2. kotdavin4i
            kotdavin4i 18 March 2013 15: 51 New
            +1
            Vigorous day Colonel, yes, a little confused, one damn anti-ship systems. And approximately I know where they will put
            1. Yarbay
              Yarbay 18 March 2013 16: 31 New
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              Quote: kotdavin4i
              Cheerful Colonel

              Not really a colonel))))) so I have not grown up !!))))
              And I wish you the sincere general epaulettes !!
      3. tlauicol
        tlauicol 18 March 2013 13: 48 New
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        Gabriel you bought, dear
        1. Yarbay
          Yarbay 18 March 2013 14: 01 New
          +1
          Quote: Tlauicol
          Gabriel you bought, dear


          Of course we bought!
          Who will give for free!


          In 2008, our country acquired ten unmanned aerial vehicles in Israel, in 2011 - two Hermes 450 unmanned aerial vehicles and ten Aerostar unmanned aerial vehicles (2010), which will be assembled in Azerbaijan.

          In 2011, our country received the Barak-8 missile system, 75 Barak-8 missiles, the Green Pine radar (EL / M-2080), Gabriel-5 anti-ship cruise missiles, 5 Geron drones and 5 drones "Searcher".
          http://www.aze.az/news_kakoe_voorujenie_priobrel_74892.html
          1. Hunter thomson
            Hunter thomson 18 March 2013 14: 22 New
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            Although the Israelis didn’t even equip their own Navy with Barak-8, it’s worth asking the Israeli comrades, but in my opinion it slipped on the Varonlan and is already standing in Azerbaijan. I'm telling you. What is mysterious in this Azerbaijan-Israel spark, that Ilham Heydarovich suggested to them, or for what place he gently grabbed the Jews, is not clear.
            1. Yarbay
              Yarbay 18 March 2013 14: 50 New
              +1
              Quote: Hunter Thomson
              Although the Israelis didn’t even equip Barak-8 with their navy, I would ask the Israeli comrades for help, but in my opinion it slipped on the Varonlan and is already standing in Azerbaijan


              Delivered accurately and already deployed!
              1. Hunter thomson
                Hunter thomson 18 March 2013 15: 03 New
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                No, I’m not arguing that there is no doubt that Barak-8 is in Azerbaijan, it’s just a “steam room” complex that is full of heat, very fresh. And yet not all ships of the Navy Izr are equipped with it, so I am surprised that he went ahead of himself to Azerbaijan. Now the Indians are packing them.
            2. 2131971
              2131971 18 March 2013 19: 57 New
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              Quote: Hunter Thomson
              What is mysterious in this Azerbaijan-Israel spark, that Ilham Heydarovich suggested to them, or for what place he gently grabbed the Jews, is not clear.

              Israel is the second, in the purchase of Azerbaijani oil, and Azerbaijan is the first, in the export of oil to Israel. Normal relations between sane partners.
        2. kotdavin4i
          kotdavin4i 18 March 2013 15: 54 New
          +1
          Forgive the sinner. A little confused, and Barack is also Gabrielle.
          1. 2131971
            2131971 18 March 2013 19: 35 New
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            Generally Barak-Air Defense, Gabriel-RCC winked
  • Zhenya
    Zhenya 18 March 2013 10: 25 New
    +1
    In general, the Caspian flotilla has 25 ships (2 patrol vessels, 4 MAK, 5 AK, 5 RK, 6 DK, 2 BT and 3 RT), provided that 18 (!) Of them were built before 2000, which means updating 4- I RTOs are a very significant contribution to the flotilla.
  • leon-iv
    leon-iv 18 March 2013 10: 37 New
    +4
    tin is this scandal called destroyer?
    With 4 RCC?
    Current we are building unsuccessfully Corvettes and RTOs with 8 container missiles.
    And yes, a helicopter is very necessary there))))) to catch submarines in the Caspian))))
    1. Zhenya
      Zhenya 18 March 2013 10: 46 New
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      And if you consider that a contract has been signed for another 6 (!) Small missile ships, each of which is a good 1000 tons displacement, the Russian Navy in this region has nothing to do :)
      1. Rustiger
        Rustiger 19 March 2013 07: 58 New
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        29-01-2013
        A solemn laying ceremony was held on Friday at the Gorky Zelenodolsk Plant (OJSC Ak Bars Holding Company) fifth serial small missile ship (RTO) under the project "Buyan-M". Two such RTOs have already been sent to the Caspian last year
        “The purpose of the ships of this project is protection and protection of the economic zone of the state. Unlike its prototype, the small artillery ship of project 21630, the missile launcher of project 21631 has almost twice the displacement and is equipped with missile weapons, ”the Central Naval Portal reports in a statement, the newspaper Vzglyad reports. Ships of this series were developed by Zelenodolsk Design Bureau.
        The lead ship of project 21631 (code "Buyan-M") was laid down on August 27, 2010 and received the name "Grad Sviyazhsk". The second order of the project, pledged July 22, 2011, is given the name "Uglich". On August 27, 2011, the third ship was laid down, named the Great Ustyug. The fourth ship, laid down on August 29, 2012, on the eve of the celebration of the Republic of Tatarstan Day and the 80th anniversary of the city of Zelenodolsk, was named "Zeleny Dol".
        Project 21631 small missile ship 75 meters long and 11 meters wide has a displacement of 949 tons. The maximum speed of RTOs is 25 knots, range at 12 knots - 2,5 thousand miles. It has autonomy of 10 days and accommodates a crew of 52 people.
        As previously reported by the press service of the Southern Military District, in 2013 shipbuilders will transfer five combat surface ships and two auxiliary fleet ships to the sailors of the Caspian flotilla.
        Zelenodolsky Shipyard, founded in 1895, is one of the largest shipbuilding enterprises in Russia. His team built 600 warships for Germany, Egypt, Vietnam, Cuba, Libya, Russia, Syria, and other countries.

        I will add. I live near the factory. A friend works in engineering, and said that the factory already has 80 orders! ships (including and abroad). Two more production buildings and a slip for launching will be erected this summer. In addition to armaments, its value, which is quite high for the budget allocated to the military-industrial complex, can be written down as a virtue.
        So one Iranian will have five "Tatarstanis". If something happens, an excellent colander will come out of the Iranian, and quickly, but for now you can scare poachers.
    2. kirieeleyson
      kirieeleyson 18 March 2013 11: 19 New
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      Quote: leon-iv
      this scandal is called a destroyer

      In general, an interesting topic is obtained; the canons for classifying ships of various classes are not regulated by anything. There are certain tasks that any ship should carry out, and for ships in the ocean zone - sets of tasks. As this news shows, (this is far from the latest news in the key to the classification of new-building ships), Iran launched an elephant, which is not an elephant at all, but a “paper tiger”, which the Pentagon gang called the PLA army time. By the way, China also distinguished itself: it displays an MRK ship in combat capabilities and technical characteristics, and calls it a corvette, or even a frigate.
      1. Wedmak
        Wedmak 18 March 2013 11: 30 New
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        Misunderstandings with the classification began when they switched from sailing ships to propellers. The tonnage, the quantity of weapons, and the crew changed dramatically. But the names remained .... And now, when you can put rocket weapons + artillery weapons + a bunch of electronic equipment + a helicopter on the 2000 ton ship ... and that's all in almost any combination. What can I say? It is not even clear by what criteria this classification should be set.
        Probably, one should nevertheless abandon the usual corvettes and frigates, and give the names according to the purpose of the ship and / or its armament.
        1. Hunter thomson
          Hunter thomson 18 March 2013 14: 07 New
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          There are no official corvettes in the Russian Navy anyway, this class has been replaced by patrol officers. And in the west, this class is definitely a corvette.
    3. Hunter thomson
      Hunter thomson 18 March 2013 14: 04 New
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      If only their own. they are very small smile
  • Ah1ll
    Ah1ll 18 March 2013 10: 39 New
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    Helicopter in the sky Iroquois or also famous Heuyu!
    Cobra is nothing to be confused with)
  • Geisenberg
    Geisenberg 18 March 2013 10: 46 New
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    Well done 314ndos raised the same Iranian shipbuilding to the level of construction of destroyers!
    1. patsantre
      patsantre 18 March 2013 17: 31 New
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      This destroyer is a corvette 30 years behind the times.
  • Alikovo
    Alikovo 18 March 2013 10: 48 New
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    in the Caspian Sea you need somewhere 4 BPC 3 patrol
    1. Zhenya
      Zhenya 18 March 2013 10: 50 New
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      To your regret, only 10 RTOs are planned, patrolmen in Dagestan (2012) and Tatarstan (2003) have ended and no BPCs are planned either.
    2. Wedmak
      Wedmak 18 March 2013 10: 52 New
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      in the Caspian Sea you need somewhere 4 BPC 3 patrol

      BOD is not needed there, no PL, who to catch? But rocket-cannon ships are needed. And preferably with airborne aviation.
  • FREGATENKAPITAN
    FREGATENKAPITAN 18 March 2013 11: 24 New
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    Well, let’s say the boat is not particularly outstanding pulling more on the frigate if not on the corvette of the URO ............ For our SKRs and RTOs this is not particularly a rival ...
  • OlegYugan
    OlegYugan 18 March 2013 11: 28 New
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    Well, I fear a MORE serious situation. Well, for example, Iran’s installation of missiles on its ships, and from there to fire on the Persian Gulf, after leaving closer to Russian territorial waters. PROVOCATIONS ARE POSSIBLE.
    1. Hunter thomson
      Hunter thomson 18 March 2013 14: 10 New
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      They do not have such missiles and are not expected. They cannot develop winged ones of such range, and Shihab is larger than this boat, you can’t attach it there.
  • Rrrrr
    Rrrrr 18 March 2013 13: 42 New
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    I demand to return the nationality to registered users of the site !!! Where are the country flags? Is someone afraid of something, or is it easier for some foreigners to fool us and make trouble? Return the flags !!!
    1. seed
      seed 18 March 2013 14: 33 New
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      I support. With flags, comments are more understandable.
      1. Rustiger
        Rustiger 19 March 2013 08: 56 New
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        Yeah noooo. So the question is not resolved. Those who wish, with some skill, can go through sites that act as proxies, with the ability to select any "country" from the proposed list. And the "flag" can be added to any, even Vanuatu, even the Ivory Coast. . . tongue
  • bulvas
    bulvas 18 March 2013 14: 08 New
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    How can Caspian be divided?
    the main source of water in the Caspian is the Volga
    The Volga is ours, Russian, which means that most of the Caspian should belong to Russia
    1. Yarbay
      Yarbay 18 March 2013 14: 22 New
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      Quote: bulvas

      How can Caspian be divided?
      the main source of water in the Caspian is the Volga
      The Volga is ours, Russian, which means that most of the Caspian should belong to Russia


      and in general it’s ridiculous not one country can compare in the short term with the Russian military mosh in the Caspian !!
      Without the desire of Russia, Iran will not be able to share something !!
      1. Hunter thomson
        Hunter thomson 18 March 2013 14: 38 New
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        Russia in the Caspian has nothing to worry about. Nobody will stick into the Russian zone, but the Iranians will try to put pressure on Azerbaijan and Turkmenistan from Iran. Aliyev is not fun for the sake of being purchased by anti-ship missiles, SAMs and detection systems.
        1. Yarbay
          Yarbay 18 March 2013 14: 43 New
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          Quote: Hunter Thomson
          Nobody will stick into the Russian zone, but the Iranians will try to put pressure on Azerbaijan and Turkmenistan from Iran.


          here, too, I think they will not be able to much!
          In principle, Russia, Kazakhstan and Azerbaijan signed an agreement on the division of the Caspian!
          Iran wants too big a piece, but Russia will never agree to this, and other countries!
  • 1c-inform-city
    1c-inform-city 18 March 2013 14: 41 New
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    I looked at other sites for images of this (destroyer). His displacement is like our new MRK 1000t. But in terms of armament, it is clearly weaker. Large ships in the Caspian are clearly redundant since the entire water area is achievable for conventional tactical aviation. Mrk type 11631 in the Caspian Sea is planned 5pcs. The rest should go to the Black Sea Fleet. Regarding the new weapons of Azerbaijan. Published a new rating of the armies of the world. Despite the massive purchase of weapons, the potential of Azerbaijan is considered half that even Armenia. This is explained by a poor selection of weapons and a very low level of preparation of drugs.
    1. Hunter thomson
      Hunter thomson 18 March 2013 15: 16 New
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      Yes, it has been procrastinating a million times that such estimates are complete crap. Israel upgraded its fleet, UAV deliveries, and air defense systems, which means they must also train specialists, and they have a very strong aviation school, one of the best in the world. And the tactics of using UAVs have also been honed for over forty years. The infantry is trained and trained mainly in Turkey, and they have a strong infantry school and traditions. I don’t know the fleet, but I think the Turks too. The Armenian army should not be confused with inhuman ferocity with military valor. With discipline in the army of Azerbaijan, probably not everything is cloudless, but attention is paid.
  • 1c-inform-city
    1c-inform-city 18 March 2013 16: 54 New
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    The Georgians were also trained and the drones supplied and the tanks were modernized And the money swelled ..
  • Yarbay
    Yarbay 18 March 2013 17: 03 New
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    Quote: 1c-inform-city
    also trained and delivered drones and upgraded tanks

    there were completely different goals, another TDV and another completely army !!