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Vatican and the "new world order"

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Pope Benedict XVI abdicated the throne in the year, he officially proclaimed himself the Year of Faith. The election of the new pope is an event much more meaningful for the fate of the world than can be learned from the media. It’s all about the real, extremely low-lit role of the Vatican, the largest stories an owner, a monopolist of knowledge in the Western world, and one of the world's oldest political actors actively pushing globalization processes. For example, it is almost not known that the idea of ​​creating a European Union belongs to the Holy See, which regarded it as the first stage in the creation of the World Union.


A spokesman for the Vatican almost immediately denied information about the health of the pope as the reason for his resignation. The Italian experts agree with this, reminding that the previous Pope John Paul II remained in office until the end, being in a much worse physical condition. The same experts point out that the real reason is not health, but internal contradictions between the Vatican groups, which Benedict XVI failed to resolve.

Today, the Vatican is the ideological center of the “new world order”. The second, financial, center is represented by the City of London. The third, political, center is located in Washington DC ... Every element of this triad, a mini-state in a state with its own flag, government, etc. And very remarkable are the buildings in the center of the Vatican - the tall, almost 300-ton ancient Egyptian obelisks in honor of the highest Egyptian deity and the “creator of everything that exists” Amen-Ra.

Especially originally one of these pagan idols looks at the main entrance to the Basilica of St.. Petra in the center of the Catholic world

Joseph Ratzinger, who ascended the papal throne of 19 on April 2005 of the year, became the first German father in the last almost 1000 years. And the oldest dad in more than 200 years. The “Old Guard”, consisting mainly of Italian cardinals, having a majority in the conclave, expected his rule to be short, “transitional”. However, expectations dragged on for 8 years. The "old man" was not only tenacious, but also a tenacious politician. This is supported by the mutually exclusive interpretations of his personality in the media.

• As a traditional conservative who defended homosexuality and a “conservative” who led the structure that had succeeded the Inquisition for almost a quarter of a century.

• As a liberal, ideologue of ecumenism since the time of the Second Vatican Council (1962), in which young J. Ratzinger played a key role in overthrowing his ideological opponent of the last Grand Inquisitor Alfredo Ottaviani and reducing the status of the Inquisition to the position of a simple congregation.

For several years, this ambiguity allowed J. Ratzinger to maneuver, depicting the “transitional” father, between the Vatican “conservatives” who are not interested in changing the financial and political status quo, and the “liberals” who are ready to “modernize” church life and even Holy Scripture.

By the end of 2000's space for maneuver left. Benedict XVI ceased to suit many. And his younger, like-minded people according to the precepts of the Ecumenical Second Vatican Council, whom he began to appear too conservative. And their opponents, who began to seem almost revolutionary. Moreover, those and others had enough formal reasons for discontent. To take only one fact - during the pontificate of Benedict XVI in his native Germany, the Catholic clergy lost 350 thousand congregations. However, reducing everything to intra-Vatican intrigues only means simplifying the situation too much.

The unprecedented pressure on the "overdue" pope is inseparable from the massive information attack on the Vatican, the beginning of which can be considered the publication in D.Nucci of 2009, the book “Vatican LLC”. On the basis of almost 4 thousands of secret documents, it uncovers illegal operations and secret money laundering schemes of the Italian mafia, major politicians and businessmen by the most closed structure of the holy throne - the Institute for Religious Affairs, known as the Vatican Bank.

For the first time, a strict measure was applied against the Vatican Bank in the form of imposing arrest on part of the money, a criminal case was initiated against the director. In 2010, a powerful blow to the image of the Catholic clergy struck the public disclosure of the numerous facts of child abuse committed by German clerics in 1960-1970. (The Vatican was forced to admit the facts of child abuse, which led to a massive rupture of German Catholics with the Roman Church). In 2011, lawyers for the victims of violence of pedophile priests (in the US, more than 3, thousands of Catholic priests are accused of sexually abusing children), filed a lawsuit at the International Tribunal in The Hague demanding that the head of the Roman Church and the three main hierarchs of the Vatican be tried "for crimes against humanity in the form of complicity and covering up of sexual abuse of priests for children ”(Goodstein L. Abuse Victims Court / Prosecute the Vatican / / New York Times, 14.09.2011). In the same year, the scandalous and tough “Habeus papam” (“We have a Dad”) movie world-wide was released. In the center of the plot is a cardinal trying to escape from the Vatican after being elected pope and abdicating the throne at the end of the film.

In October, 2012 of the year ended the trial of Paolo Gabriele, the butler of the Pope’s absolute confidence. He was convicted of imprisonment on 1,5 after being found guilty of stealing confidential letters, financial reports and other secret documents of the pontiff, a small part of which formed the basis of an even more sensational study published last fall, signed by D. Nucci, His Holiness. The Secret Documents of Benedict XVI. ” The book, which demonstrates the inner kitchen of the pontiff himself and his vulnerability to external forces, called for greater "transparency" of the Holy See and provoked another scandal, called the Vatican press secretary "Vatilix".

At the same time, most of the stolen documents have not yet been published and are still in the hands of an unknown customer (according to American journalists, they may be Cass Sunstein, former head of the Information and Communication Regulatory Section of the Washington White House, who also seeks greater Vatican transparency; the head of this department is called the “information king” of the Obama administration). As the investigation progressed over the Pope’s butler, the Vatican’s chief geek disappeared without a trace, holding in his hands all the “virtual” contacts, databases, and access codes to the computer system of the Holy See, considered to be similar to the systems of the US special services ...

Interestingly, the main waves of information attacks on the Vatican coincided with the calls of Benedict XVI to create a global governing body. What is this structure and why should it be controlled by the “vicar of God on earth", described in the third encyclical of Pope Caritas in Veritate, published on July 7 of the year 2009. In this 150-page message, for the first time devoted to social issues, the pope called for the creation of a “global political power” for the sake of “improving the economies affected by the crisis.” A year later, the Vatican began to actively promote the idea of ​​the World Central Bank in order to create a “supranational authority” of a global scale.

3 December 2012, in a speech delivered at the Pontifical Council, Benedict XVI again called for "building a world community with the appropriate powers", for the creation of a super-state and a worldwide supranational governing body. Literally two weeks after that, according to the Italian la Repubblica, two 300-page investigations on top clerics convicted of homosexuality and embezzlement of the Vatican lay on the table of the Pope. After becoming acquainted with these materials, my father allegedly decided to leave his post that very day ...

Recently, in the American media, information was announced that officially the Benedict’s abdication was announced a few days after the Vatican received the unnamed European state of a diplomatic note from the Vatican February in which it expressed its intention to issue an arrest warrant for J. Ratzinger. At the same time, news agencies reported on negotiations with the Italian authorities and on the decision of Benedict XVI to live after the abdication in the Vatican and that they received guarantees of the security of his private life and legal protection in the event of a prosecution attempt.

In part, the model of the abdication of Benedict XVI resembles a performance of 143-year-old, played out under the dictation of the Rothschilds. Then the result of the action was the deprivation of the pope of secular power, and the Vatican of the Papal States, and at the same time the acquisition by the Pope of a blank check for the "modernization" of Christianity. Today the global ideological power of the Vatican sovereign is at stake. The main choice that will be made these days in the Vatican is not a black / fair-skinned or European / non-European pope. The question is about:

1) Will the Vatican be able to overcome the deep crisis of the institution of papal authority and the Catholic Church in their inability to resist the mass de-Christianization and oskotinivaniyu congregation and clergy and remain a sovereign state under the authority of the papal curia? An indicator of this will be the preservation of control over the Vatican Bank, which is not the official institution of this state, but the pontiff's bank, still remaining in a certain sense its sole shareholder, which fully controls the bank through a commission of five cardinals.

2) will the pontiff's mission be reduced to the purely ideological propaganda of the “new world order” and the issuance of quasi-religious sanctions to strengthen it? The indicator is a possible joke on the election of the pope of the "racial card" and the transfer of the financial structures of the Vatican to the control of supranational banking structures seeking to dismantle the institution of the state as such under the banner of fighting corruption.
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  1. alexng
    alexng 14 March 2013 07: 48
    +3
    3 December 2012, in a speech delivered at the Pontifical Council, Benedict XVI again called for "building a world community with the appropriate powers", for the creation of a super-state and a worldwide supranational governing body. Literally two weeks after that, according to the Italian la Repubblica, two 300-page investigations on top clerics convicted of homosexuality and embezzlement of the Vatican lay on the table of the Pope. After becoming acquainted with these materials, my father allegedly decided to leave his post that very day ...


    Yes, the whole Western world is tarnished in both.
    1. esaul
      esaul 14 March 2013 08: 30
      +4
      Greetings colleagues. This morning, looking through "Euronews", on the topic of the election of PA, I caught myself thinking - "The Catholic Show on the election of the most holy of Catholics has reached its climax." Whichever Pope they choose, the Catholic Church will continue to hypocritically call for peace at a time when Catholics will bomb peaceful cities, kill people, and support extremists.
      1. DYMITRY
        DYMITRY 14 March 2013 09: 14
        +2
        Quote: esaul
        Whatever dad they choose, the Catholic Church will continue to hypocritically call for peace at a time when Catholics will bomb peaceful cities, ruin people and support extremists.

        Good day, Valery!
        Of those who bomb cities and support extremists, only two Catholic countries are France and Italy. And Italy supports them very conditionally. The rest are Protestants.
        1. 755962
          755962 14 March 2013 11: 17
          +1
          The first non-European pontiff in the last thousand years, Francis will take charge of the Roman Catholic Church when, in the opinion of the clergy and believers, she is in crisis. Not least of all, this is due to the decline in the moral character of church ministers against the backdrop of corruption and sexual scandals that took place under Benedict XVI.

          Read full article: http://top.rbc.ru/society/14/03/2013/849092.shtml
        2. Galinanp
          Galinanp 14 March 2013 11: 47
          0
          In the United States, the Christian Church prevails from Christian denominations.
          1. Lopatov
            Lopatov 14 March 2013 11: 58
            0
            Dominated but not dominant. Catholicism is the religion of the Latinos, and they do not play a special role in the US government. By the way, do you know how "WASP" stands for?
            1. fzr1000
              fzr1000 14 March 2013 12: 36
              +1
              White Anglo-Saxon Protestant-American aristocracy
      2. Sirocco
        Sirocco 14 March 2013 14: 59
        +1
        If my memory serves me, then Catholics waged wars throughout their history "witches" something with scientists "heretics"In their view, the earth was flat, now, through their efforts, at least Europe has acquired BLUE shade with signs PEDOFILIA. So that’s what I want to say. By their inquisition, the Vatican and comrades slowed down the development of all science, and made a herd of artiodactyls from the people. What are trying to do now by creating ideological center of the "new world order" In my opinion, the Vatican itself has long been discredited by all this homosexuality, these backroom wars, espionage and betrayal of GOD. In the case of these banks, and other financial frauds, the Vatican went far from God, having received its 30 pieces of silver. Just like the scribes and Pharisees became there in the Bible.
    2. yak69
      yak69 14 March 2013 20: 06
      0
      Quote: alexneg
      Yes, the whole Western world is tarnished in both.

      The Holy See has long been giving up Christian canons and positions. It is enough to look at history. It was a Catholic monk and a pastor who were the heroes of numerous songs, jokes and ridicule. Somehow, no one dares to make fun of Orthodox monks (I am silent about the priests). And the requirements for fasting and religious rituals in Catholicism will be "softer".
      So, by and large, they have all been degrading for a long time and whoever they choose, we will not be better off from this!
  2. Nesvet Nezar
    Nesvet Nezar 14 March 2013 08: 01
    +2
    All Priests, including the inhabitants of Mecca, "rewrite" the sacred books for the sake of a focal point of funds. God is one, but he is not the same as Christianity, Islam and Hinduism (and all other religions) describe him. Chaos occurs when a person cognizes God. When humanity, with its scientific thought, debunks the possibilities of God. The Vatican is the same sharashka as Mecca. Man needs God. But does a person need imams and bishops?
    1. Homo
      Homo 14 March 2013 08: 12
      +4
      [quote = Not light of Nezar], all the problems are because God is one and there are many religions. Since the faith was replaced by religion (each with its own), and a showdown began, whose faith is steeper.
      1. Ross
        Ross 14 March 2013 10: 24
        +3
        [quote = Homo] [quote = Nesar’s lack of light], all the problems are because God is one and there are many religions. Ever since faith was replaced by religion (each with its own) and disassembly began, whose faith is steeper. [/ Quote]
        Very accurate remark!
    2. esaul
      esaul 14 March 2013 08: 35
      +1
      Greetings, Andrew.
      Quote: Nesvet Nezarya
      Vatican is the same sharashka as Mecca

      Not really, colleague ... wink This sharashka was able to become a financial empire on the looted (and in the same Mecca) treasures. The Vatican is home to some of the world's largest treasures. Raising this article on the internet is reluctant. Those who wish - yes will be found in the "Translator
  3. JonnyT
    JonnyT 14 March 2013 08: 04
    +4
    Yesterday the kids were molested, today the Pope was chosen ..... it's funny to pay attention to their "worried and majestic speeches" when these ministers of the church themselves were mired in sin! Yes, and double standards are in their blood, no consistency and legal success
  4. fenix57
    fenix57 14 March 2013 08: 06
    +3
    "Today the Vatican is the ideological center of the" new world order ""- to disseminate and promote pedophilia and homosexuality. hi
    1. DYMITRY
      DYMITRY 14 March 2013 08: 33
      +6
      Quote: fenix57
      Today the Vatican is the ideological center of the "new world order" "- for the dissemination and promotion of pedophilia and homosexuality

      Good day, dear!
      Probably I do not agree with you. For one simple reason, the Vatican is very actively pouring mud. More active than the Vatican only shit Russia. Much truth is being written about Russia in the Western media? I think the question is rhetorical. It seems that what they write about the Vatican (in the person of the Vatican refers to the entire Catholic Church) should be divided by at least 50.
      Accordingly, someone pays for all this hysteria. And all "free" media are in well-known hands.
      Note about the crimes of the Protestant "priests" the media are unanimously silent. Although pederasty among Protestants has long been no longer officially a sin. Soon it will be pedophilia. Look at all possible perversions legalized, first of all, in countries with an overwhelming Protestant population. In Denmark, for example, there is already an official party of pedophiles, which advocates the legalization of their "hobby".
      It is precisely the Catholic Church that is fighting all these manifestations of "freedom". IMHO it is for this that they are poured with shit.
      PS A new dad was elected tonight. They became an ultra conservative cardinal from Argentina. Unfortunately, I did not remember the name. And he was elected very quickly. Consequently, the schism in the Catholic Church has been overcome. At least in general terms. And the fact that the ultra-conservative is chosen suggests that the Vatican is seriously determined to fight against all this shalman.
      PPS IMHO the article consists of speculation a little more than completely. There is no reliable information about the internal affairs of the Vatican at all. The Vatican is the most closed state in the world. Most of the "sensations" about the inner life of the Vatican can be safely attributed to the category of little green men.
      1. dentitov
        dentitov 14 March 2013 15: 07
        0
        It is clear that attacks on the Vatican are paid for from the same pocket as attacks on Russia and the Russian Orthodox Church. The beneficiary is the same.
  5. nokki
    nokki 14 March 2013 08: 13
    +5
    Freemasons and Papacy - in one harness! I don’t want to offend real Catholic believers, but they are facing hard times of "modernization" and schism!

    A similar "wave" went in the direction of Orthodoxy. They want not just to "modernize" it, but to destroy it in the bud! And the swearing of some "advanced" atheists on our site about religion, only plays into the hands of these Masonic plans. We need a CONSOLIDATION OF ALL FORCES!
  6. Deniska999
    Deniska999 14 March 2013 08: 22
    +1
    The Jesuit became the new father.
    1. hrych
      hrych 14 March 2013 18: 41
      +3
      The Jesuits - the order engaged in all the secret and dirty affairs, a kind of SS. And many more are touched that the new pontiff washed and kissed the legs of the speedos, but the demon is in the details, speedos are the majority pidSodomites and it turns out that the new dad was kissing zhopnikovinformals. And yet, when they talk about Catholic affairs, calling them pedophiles, but forget that even such a terrible definition implies, in particular, communication with underage girls. However, Catholics became famous precisely for molesting boys, which, first of all, again pidsodomy.
  7. VadimSt
    VadimSt 14 March 2013 08: 23
    +3
    Well, what kind of center it is, it can be clearly seen in the Islamization of Catholic Europe!
    For me personally, that the Vatican, that the Pope, that the problems of the Catholic Church - all to one place! I am an Orthodox, so I don’t “powder” myself with other people's problems.
    1. dentitov
      dentitov 14 March 2013 15: 10
      +2
      But this is in vain. While Catholics resist, we are not extinguished in full force. As soon as they break, here we start to wet from all the trunks. I mean the moral plane of our lives.
  8. Apollo
    Apollo 14 March 2013 08: 25
    +2
    Good morning everybody!!! hi

    Jesuit Bergoglio became the new Pope

    The new pope, Cardinal from Argentina, Jorge Mario Bergoglio, will be called Francis I in honor of Francis of Assisi.
    Pontiff 76 years. He has a moderate lifestyle - he rides a bus and cooks for himself. Bergoglio served as bishop of Buenos Aires for some time.
    The new pope is considered a representative of the conservative movement in the Catholic Church. He opposed abortion, euthanasia, and same-sex marriage.
    Note that for the first time, a Jesuit was elected to the top post in the church hierarchy.
    Read more: http://www.rosbalt.ru/main/2013/03/13/1105361.html
  9. Vladimir_61
    Vladimir_61 14 March 2013 08: 31
    +3
    There are no crimes that the Vatican would not have committed.
    1. Rus2012
      Rus2012 14 March 2013 11: 24
      +1
      Dear colleague, Vladimir_61 smile
      Why is your land in the avatar versus the natural rotates?
      Those. The sun rises in the West ... laughing
      So conceived?
      1. Vladimir_61
        Vladimir_61 14 March 2013 12: 22
        0
        Quote: Rus2012
        Why is your land in the avatar versus the natural rotates?

        I answer, dear: this is a symbol of going against the tide. In other words, acquiring knowledge is a very difficult matter. In ancient temples, the main priests, performing rites, went against the Sun. And to you a plus for attention and observation.
        1. wax
          wax 14 March 2013 13: 24
          0
          For
          going upstream
          no need to take the whole globe hostage. This is a completely different symbol.
          1. Vladimir_61
            Vladimir_61 14 March 2013 14: 38
            0
            Quote: Wax
            no need to take the whole globe hostage. This is a completely different symbol.

            Hostages?))) Dear, we will not argue. Why take it literally? It is said after all: a symbol, an allegory explaining unwritten laws.
      2. Vladimir_61
        Vladimir_61 14 March 2013 12: 37
        +1
        Quote: Rus2012
        rotates

        I’ll add no offense. The distortion of the words of the language is not such a harmless thing. Each sound of speech unites several nerve centers (this is not only the vibration of the vocal cords). Incorrect speech (especially profanity) introduces dissonance into the nervous system. Fixing dissonance leads to disease.
  10. Trapperxnumx
    Trapperxnumx 14 March 2013 08: 47
    +5
    Quote: nokki
    Freemasons and Papacy - in one harness! I don’t want to offend real Catholic believers, but they are facing hard times of "modernization" and schism!

    A similar "wave" went in the direction of Orthodoxy. They want not just to "modernize" it, but to destroy it in the bud! And the swearing of some "advanced" atheists on our site about religion, only plays into the hands of these Masonic plans. We need a CONSOLIDATION OF ALL FORCES!

    I agree. Completely.
    By the way, somebody noticed an analogy - they say about Vatican LLC, and we talk about ROC CJSC. After all, the Vatican, with all its Freemasonry, still continues to be a kind of moral anchor. For now ...
    1. DYMITRY
      DYMITRY 14 March 2013 09: 16
      +3
      +100500 already wrote in a post above that pouring mud on Russia and the Vatican goes and is paid by the same source!
  11. The gentleman
    The gentleman 14 March 2013 09: 04
    0
    mast go show he)))) I don’t know, maybe I’m wrong, but I always didn’t like this Vatican, and the clergy as a whole. Too many privileges, too much money. They go into politics, have their own interests. nice, they are behind a screen of faith, doing absolutely terrible things
  12. Averias
    Averias 14 March 2013 09: 56
    +4
    People, tell me the unreasonable - well, what for a whole week, from all news channels and tapes, they tell me about the vicissitudes of the Pope's choice? What do we have to do with the Vatican? Yes, I absolutely do not care what color the smoke comes from this fucking chimney and who Daddy will be. The fact that the history of the Vatican has a "taint" is probably known to everyone (it is not for nothing that everything with regards to any documents from the Vatican's repositories is a terrible secret). In my opinion, the Vatican, for the most part, is a crowd of rich parasites. And they've been taking out our brains for a week. And here is such important news as - the Court of Finland recognized the actions of the social welfare authorities against Russian children as illegal (remember the scandal when the father did not give two children back to their mother in Russia, and the mother forbade them to approach them, and the social welfare service supported him) ), The court overturned this decision and declared it not illegal. And this news, which has a direct bearing on Russia, was not noticeable against the background of the Papal hysteria. That's why I ask - what for goat button accordion? Or has Russia become a Catholic country?
    1. Galinanp
      Galinanp 14 March 2013 11: 54
      +2
      Averias Today, 09: 56
      So, from such facts it is also displayed in whose hands the media are. Tired of this TV show with colored smoke.
    2. Pinochet000
      Pinochet000 14 March 2013 14: 00
      0
      Quote: Averias
      People, well, tell me the unreasonable - well, what for a whole week, from all the news channels and feeds, they tell me about the ups and downs of the choice of the Pope?
      So I don’t understand, it’s a heck for us, they made a hysteria .... I remember the august wedding was broadcast live, and the scarecrow commented (like) ... this vomit.
    3. dentitov
      dentitov 14 March 2013 15: 13
      0
      Whoever dines for a girl dances her.
  13. seed
    seed 14 March 2013 10: 01
    +3
    "they are behind the screen of faith, doing absolutely terrible things"

    In any church you can find a bunch of flaws. I think that any modern Western church is a tool of politicians. And politics, by a well-known expression, is a dirty business. Attacks on the Vatican are attacks on some political forces by other forces.
    1. Vladimir_61
      Vladimir_61 14 March 2013 10: 07
      +2
      Quote: seed
      Attacks on the Vatican are attacks on some political forces by other forces.

      With a serious study of this issue, you can understand that secret politics, including those implemented by the Vatican. Do not mistake wolves for innocent lambs.
      1. seed
        seed 14 March 2013 10: 31
        0
        Yes, I do not accept. But nevertheless, these are worshipers, they must educate the flock and raise its spiritual level to new unattainable heights. Serious studies have not been conducted. Maybe you are right. Many politicians from the stands say good and right things.
        1. Vladimir_61
          Vladimir_61 14 March 2013 10: 38
          +1
          Quote: seed
          Many politicians from the stands say good and right things.

          True.) But their deeds speak otherwise.
          1. seed
            seed 14 March 2013 10: 52
            +1
            That's what I'm talking about. But I want to believe. And in order not to remain a duped philistine, you need to train your brain, in particular on this site.
            1. Vladimir_61
              Vladimir_61 14 March 2013 10: 57
              0
              Quote: seed
              And in order not to remain a duped philistine, you need to train your brain, in particular on this site.

              Good luck. hi
              1. wax
                wax 14 March 2013 13: 26
                +1
                "Train your brain" on the site is ridiculous.
    2. AK-47
      AK-47 14 March 2013 10: 22
      +1
      Quote: seed
      In any church you can find a bunch of flaws ...

      Wow flaws.
      The Vatican was forced to admit facts of violence against children ... in the USA, for example, more than 3 thousand Catholic priests are accused of sexual abuse of children.

      For this it is necessary to excommunicate the church from people.
      1. seed
        seed 14 March 2013 10: 46
        +2
        Ok, I’ll supplement it. In any church you can find a bunch of flaws and crimes, both against a person and economic.
      2. urganov
        urganov 17 March 2013 10: 31
        0
        Good slogan, bravo.
  14. Uncle lee
    Uncle lee 14 March 2013 10: 55
    +7
    Read: Leo Taxil "The Sacred Nativity Scene" - nothing has changed at the Vatican ...
  15. Lopatov
    Lopatov 14 March 2013 11: 38
    +2
    At the moment we are observing the opposite - the Vatican interferes with the "new world order", and it is under the most powerful pressure. Hopefully the new pope can resist this.
  16. bistrov.
    bistrov. 14 March 2013 12: 04
    +1
    The Catholic religion and its governing body, the Vatican, are a terrible evil. There are no such crimes that these "saints" would not have committed. They have unleashed thousands of wars around the world alone, and how many people have they destroyed! And all this is presented as an act of virtue, graciously, with a smile. The violent dismemberment of the USSR is also the work of the Vatican. Here, among the comments, there are remarks that the Catholic religion is not predominant in all European countries, forgetting that both Protestants and Lutherans are still subject to the Vatican, like the Greek Catholic Church (Uniate), which is mainly spread in western Ukraine. In recent years, there has been an intensification of these beliefs in penetration to the "east". Religious buildings (Uniate churches, churches) are being built, religious concessions are being created, which are engaged in anti-Russian and anti-Orthodox subversive activities. In particular, in Ukraine, a great role in the creation of nationalist movements was played by the Greek Catholic Church and its primate Guzar, who has now "gone into the shadows" but continues to lead nationalist movements, writes articles of religious-nationalist orientation in the media. It is interesting to know that Guzar came from the United States, where he lived all the post-war period. Recently, the media have been circulating proposals to merge the Ukrainian Greek Catholic Church and the illegal Ukrainian Orthodox Church of the Kiev Patriarchate (Metropolitan Filaret-Denisenko), under the auspices of the papal throne. Things are moving towards the gradual displacement and absorption of Orthodox beliefs by the Catholic, or his ersatz (Greek Catholics), or, in extreme cases, the subordination of the Orthodox Church to the Roman Pope. In this regard, the popes themselves and their representatives became frequent visitors to Ukraine. So both John Paul -1 and Benedict -16 made their official visits to Ukraine, where they were received at the state level and made voyages around the country. Apparently, Pontiff Benedict -16 turned out to be a little soft, did not quite agree with the aggressive policy of the Vatican, did not carry out the instructions of the international mafia too zealously, and therefore was replaced by a tougher and more aggressive hierarch Francis. This suggests a "simple" conclusion.
    1. dentitov
      dentitov 14 March 2013 15: 16
      0
      One addition. The Protestant Inquisition in Europe destroyed more people than the Catholic. And at times. He was surprised when he found out.
  17. Makarov
    Makarov 14 March 2013 13: 40
    +1
    Frankly speaking, our priests often behave and act not in the best way ... well, at least there are still quite a few decent ones, "Religion is opium for the people!")
  18. Good man
    Good man 14 March 2013 13: 40
    +1
    Quote: bistrov.
    The matter is towards the gradual crowding out and absorption of Orthodox beliefs by the Catholic,

    Even I did not notice the growth of Catholicism. May our hierarchs also transfer from Porsche cayenne to buses like the Jesuit Francis ...
    1. bistrov.
      bistrov. 14 March 2013 22: 48
      0
      Quote: Good man
      Even I did not notice the growth of Catholicism

      For example, three new Catholic churches and a cathedral were built in Khmelnitsky.
  19. kopar
    kopar 14 March 2013 13: 49
    -1
    Quote: JonnyT
    Yesterday the kids were molested, today the Pope was chosen ..... it's funny to pay attention to their "worried and majestic speeches" when these ministers of the church themselves were mired in sin! Yes, and double standards are in their blood, no consistency and legal success


    But is the type of the Russian Orthodox Church so correct? You forget gentlemen that as soon as the Vatican falls, the Russian Orthodox Church (just 140 million) will be demolished and will not notice .... As for the accusations of homosexuality and pedophilia, there are many such among Orthodox priests , Only the authorities and the Russian Orthodox Church itself is not profitable to engage in demonstration and criminal cases ....
  20. Black
    Black 14 March 2013 14: 18
    +2
    Whatever we say, but the Church was — and — it will be for a very long time the cradle of morality. And this is not to kill, do not steal, do not wish ....
    One can find problems and abomination there, but the mechanism of "humanization" of the mass of people is more effective than the Church so far. Neither the Bolsheviks with a "moral code", Mao, or Freemasonry succeeded.
    Obtained by narrow groups of people living outside the state. But this is a different song.
    1. dentitov
      dentitov 14 March 2013 15: 19
      +1
      For some reason, many forget about it. True, some representatives of the Russian Orthodox Church are doing everything to defame the whole Church with their lives. There is information that they are being introduced there for the outside, in order to discredit the Church over time.
  21. homosum20
    homosum20 14 March 2013 15: 29
    0
    In the courtyard of the Vatican Museums is such a sculpture
    http://orelireshka.ru/images/stories/gold_shar_vatikan.jpg
    Earth in the form of a golden ball, under the surface of which is a complex mechanism controlled by keys.
    By pressing these hidden keys, the Vatican has been covertly managing what is happening on the planet for more than a thousand years.
    Black, what would raped children say about the morality of the clergy?
  22. Black
    Black 14 March 2013 17: 17
    0
    Quote: homosum20
    Black, what would raped children say about the morality of the clergy?

    I have already said. What is the Church? - it is we, all together, with all sins and human defects. In any large community there are good people, there are scum. They are in the Church.
    What can be said about morality when it is not there? Bad and disgusting.
    But do not think that we only understand this here. Abomination - it is in the Vatican too. Maybe that's why Francis is a Jesuit?
  23. hrych
    hrych 14 March 2013 18: 27
    +4
    When talking about the laundering of mafia money by the Vatican financial institutions, the Vatican itself is underestimated a bit, reducing its role to financial fraud. But we must not forget that the Vatican is composed of highly intelligent, educated people with a worldwide network of informants, which is more than a thousand years old. Based on this, it can be argued that Cosa Nostra, etc. is controlled by the Vatican and is its secret structure, dealing with dirty deeds.
    1. Ascetic
      Ascetic 14 March 2013 20: 53
      +3
      Quote: hrych
      When talking about the laundering of mafia money by the Vatican financial institutions, the Vatican itself is underestimated a bit, reducing its role to financial fraud.


      Pope Benedict decided to conduct an independent audit of the Vatican Bank when in 2009 the deficit of the state budget of the Roman Catholic Church amounted to 8 million euros! He even removed the deputy governor of the Vatican. The treasury keeper was Archbishop Carlo Maria Vigano. Immediately after the appointment, he plunged into the financial statements and discovered such details that many in the Roman Curia stood on end. It turned out that The Vatican handed over the management of public funds to a certain circle of well-known Italian banks. They made transfers of about 300 million euros per year, and often the terms of these operations were disadvantageous for the Pope.
      Whose interests were affected by the revision of the pope? Guess once .. .. March 19, 2012 Rockefeller (!!!) “JP Morgan” suddenly broke off correspondent relations with the Bank of the Vatican. This was preceded by a real intrigue, called in the world press “Vatiliks” (Vatileaks) by analogy with “Wikiliks”. Since then, hard times began for dad.
      after the election of the new Pope Benedict XVI on April 19, 2005 an agreement was concluded between the Vatican and the Rockefellers, a kind of “concordat”, on cooperation of the Holy See with one of the chief strategists of the clan G. Kissinger on foreign policy and ... cooperation in banking affairs with the Rockefeller Bank “JP Morgan”, one of the largest in the world. Little of! Since the end of 2006, the Rockefeller Advisor has also become an adviser to Benedict XVI. In January 2012, it was precisely as the Pope’s personal envoy that Kissinger visited Moscow, where he met with Vladimir Putin!
      Peter Sutherland became the chief financial adviser to Benedict XVI, advised at the Vatican Extraordinary Section of the Administration of the Patrimony of the Apostolic See.
      Sutherland - also a well-known person, to match Kissinger. On his track record is the leadership of the World Trade Organization, the presidency of the famous Goldman Sachs Bank. He also headed the board of directors of British Petroleum, the Rothschild estate.
      Two famous clans sent their eminent "Cossacks" to the Vatican, and took the Pope under secret control.
      Dad got out of control by encroaching on the HOLY interests of the financial elite and, as a result, was forced to leave. well have not yet made an attempt, apparently surrendered without a fight ..
  24. APASUS
    APASUS 17 March 2013 20: 33
    +1
    All this fuss reminds a circus.
    Dad is the viceroy of God on earth!
    And how can this viceroy leave his post, under the influence of some kind of investigations, intrigues and undercover games?
    Dad can only be carried forward with his feet!