Alexander Matrosov - reality and fiction

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Every generation has its idols and heroes. Today, when film and pop stars are put on the podium, and the scandalous representatives of Bohemians are examples to follow, it's time to remember those who really deserved eternal memory in our stories. It will be about Alexander Matrosov, with whose name Soviet fighters went to the Great Patriotic Meat Grinder in an effort to repeat his heroic feat, sacrificing their lives for the sake of Motherland independence. Over time, the memory erases small details of events and makes the colors more faded, making their own adjustments and explanations of what happened. Only after many years it became possible to reveal some mysterious and unspoken moments in the biography of this young man, who left such a significant mark on the glorious annals of our Motherland.

Alexander Matrosov - reality and fiction


Anticipating the angry reactions of those who are inclined to leave the facts in the form in which they were presented by the Soviet media, it is necessary to make a reservation that the studies conducted by historians and memoirs do not in any way detract from the merits of a person whose name has been around for more than half a century cities. No one set his goal to denigrate him, but the Truth requires the establishment of justice and the disclosure of the true facts and names that were distorted at one time or were simply ignored.

According to the official version, Alexander was from Dnepropetrovsk, who passed Ivanovsky and Melekessky orphanages of the Ulyanovsk region and the Ufa labor colony for children. 23 February 1943 of the year his battalion received the task of destroying a fascist stronghold near the village of Chernushki in the Pskov Region. However, the approaches to the village covered three machine-gun calculations, covered in bunker. Special assault groups were sent to suppress them. Two machine guns were destroyed by the joint forces of machine gunners and armored soldiers, but attempts to silence the third were unsuccessful. In the end, ordinary Peter Ogurtsov and Alexander Matrosov crawled to him. Soon, Ogurtsov was seriously injured, and the Sailors got to the embrasure already alone. He threw a couple of grenades and the machine gun fell silent. But as soon as the Red Guards climbed into the attack, as the shooting rang out again. Saving their comrades, the Sailors in one swift throw appeared at the bunker and closed the embrasure with their body. The received moments were enough for the soldiers to come closer and destroy the enemy. On the feat of the Soviet soldier was told in newspapers, magazines and cinema, his name became a phraseological unit in the Russian language.


After a long search and research work of people studying the biography of Alexander Matrosov, it became obvious that only the date of birth of the future hero of the USSR and the place of his death deserve confidence. All other information was quite contradictory, and therefore deserved closer examination.

The first questions arose when the official request for the place of birth indicated by the hero in the city of Dnepropetrovsk, came a clear answer that the birth of a child with that name and surname in 1924-th year was not registered by any VPS. Further searches in Soviet times, the main investigator of Matrosov’s life, Rauf Khaevich Nasyrov, led to the public censure of the writer and his accusation of revisionism of the heroic pages of wartime. Only much later he was able to continue the investigation, which resulted in a number of interesting discoveries.
Following the barely noticeable "bread crumbs", the bibliographer initially, based on eyewitness accounts, suggested, and then practically proved that the real name of the hero is Shakiryan, and the small village of Kunakbaevo, which is located in Uchalinsky district of Bashkiria, is the true place of his birth. The study of documents in the Uchalinsky City Council made it possible to find a record about the birth of a certain Mukhamedyanov Shakiryan Yunusovich on the very day indicated by the official biographical version of Alexander Matrosov’s life, February 5 of 1924. Such a discrepancy in the data on the place of birth of the famous hero suggested the authentication of the other biographical data.

None of the close relatives of Shahiryan at that time was no longer alive. However, in the course of further searches, children's photos of the boy were found, which miraculously survived from former fellow villagers. A detailed examination of these images and their comparison with later photographs of Alexander Matrosov allowed scientists from the Research Institute of Forensic Examinations in Moscow to give a final conclusion about the identity of the people depicted in them.

Few people know that there is another Alexander Matrosov, the namesake of the main person of the article, who also became the Hero of the Soviet Union. Born 22 on June 1918 in the city of Ivanovo, during the Great Patriotic War, he served as a senior sergeant, platoon commander of a reconnaissance company. In the summer of 1944, Matrosov, together with other scouts, seized a bridge on the Belarusian River Svisloch, a tributary of the Berezina. For more than a day, a small group held him, repelling the attacks of the fascists, until the main forces of our troops approached. In that memorable battle, Alexander survived, successfully ended the war and died in his native Ivanovo 5 on February 1992 of the year at the age of seventy-three.


During conversations with fellow soldiers Alexander Matrosov, as well as residents of the village where he was born, and former pupils of orphanages, the picture of the life of this famous person gradually began to take shape. Shakiryan Mukhamedyanov’s father returned from the Civil War as an invalid and could not find a permanent job. In this regard, his family experienced great financial difficulties. When the boy was only seven years old, his mother died. It became even harder to survive, and often the father, along with his young son, begged for money, wandering around the neighboring courtyards. Very soon a stepmother appeared in the house, with which young Shahiryan could not get along with the characters after running away from home.

Short wanderings ended with the boy getting to the receiving center for children through the NKVD, and from there he was sent to modern Dimitrovgrad, which was then called Melekess. It is in this orphanage that he first appears as Alexander Matrosov. But in official documents under the given name, he was recorded when he entered the colony located in the village of Ivanovka, 7 in February of 1938. In the same place, the boy called the fictional place of birth and the city in which, in his own words, he had never been. On the basis of the documents issued to him in all sources, later this information about the place and date of birth of the boy was indicated.

Why Shakiryan recorded under this name? His fellow villagers recalled that at the age of fifteen, in the summer of 1939, he came to his small homeland. The teenager was wearing a peaked cap and striped vest under his shirt. Even then he called himself Alexander Matrosov. Apparently, he did not want to indicate his real name in the colony because he knew about the general unfriendly attitude towards the natsmen. And with his sympathy for the naval symbolism, it was not difficult to come up with an appropriate name you like, as many street kids did at that time. However, the shelter still remembered that Sasha was called not only Shurik-Sailor, but also Shurik-Shakiryan, as well as “Bashkir” because of the dark skin of the teenager, which again confirms the identity of the two personalities in question.


Both fellow villagers and alumni of the orphanage spoke of Sasha as a lively and cheerful guy who liked to play guitar and balalaika, knew how to tap the tap and best of all played “grandma”. They even remembered the words of his native mother, who said at the time that, because of his dexterity and excessive activity, he would become either a good young man or a criminal.

The generally accepted version of the hero’s biography states that for some time Matrosov worked as a woodworker in a furniture factory in Ufa, but he was never told how he got into the labor colony to which the company was attached. But this segment of his biography contains colorful references to what an excellent example for peers was Alexander at the time, as he became one of the best boxers and skiers of the city, what beautiful wrote poetry. To create a heightened effect in a fictional story, much is said about the active work of Matrosov as a political informer, and also about the fact that the father of the hero, being a communist, was killed by a fist bullet.

An interesting fact related to the accomplished fighter is the presence of at least two almost identical Komsomol tickets in the name of Alexander Matrosov. Tickets are stored in different museums: one - in Moscow, the other - in Velikiye Luki. Which of the documents is genuine, has remained unexplained.


In fact, in the 1939 year, Matrosov was sent to work at the Kuybyshev Car Repair Plant. However, he soon escaped from there due to unbearable working conditions. Later, for noncompliance with the regime, Sasha was arrested along with a friend. The following documentary evidence about the life of a guy appears almost a year later. According to archival data, 8 of October 1940 of the year Alexander Matrosov was sentenced by the Frunzensky District People’s Court to two years of imprisonment under article 192 of the RSFSR Criminal Code for violation of the subscription terms that he would leave Saratov within 24 hours. An interesting fact is that on May 5 of the USSR Supreme Court 1967 returned to the cassation consideration of Matrosov’s case and annulled the sentence, apparently so as not to blacken the name of the hero with unflattering details of his life.

Actually, after a court decision, the young man ended up in the labor colony of Ufa, where he fully served his time. At the very beginning of the war, seventeen-year-old Alexander, like thousands of his peers, sent a letter to the Defense Commissar asking him to send him to the front, expressing his passionate desire to defend the Motherland. But he only got to the front line at the end of February 1943 of the year, along with other cadets of the Krasnokholmsky school, where the Sailors were enrolled in October 1942 after the colony. Due to the difficult situation on all fronts, the fledged non-shot cadets with their full complement were sent as reinforcements to the Kalininsky front.

Here follows a new discrepancy of real facts with the official biography of this person. In accordance with the documents, Alexander Matrosov was enrolled in a rifle battalion that was part of the 91-th separate Siberian volunteer brigade, named after Joseph Stalin, February 25. But the Soviet press states that Alexander Matrosov accomplished his February 23 feat. After reading about this later in the newspapers, Matrosov’s brother-soldiers were extremely surprised by this information, because in reality the memorable battle in Pskovshchina, not far from the village of Chernushki, which the battalion had to beat off the Germans, in accordance with the order of the command, took place on February 27 of the February .

Why was such an important date changed not only in newspapers, but also in many historical documents describing a great feat? Everyone who grew up during the Soviet era is well aware of how the government and many other official bodies liked to coincide with different, even the most insignificant events, to anniversaries and dates. It happened in this case. The approaching anniversary, the twenty-fifth anniversary of the founding of the Red Army, demanded "real confirmation" for the inspiration and elevation of the morale of the Soviet soldiers. Obviously, it was decided to coincide with the feat of the fighter Alexander Matrosov to the memorable date.




Details of exactly how events developed on that terrible February day, when a courageous nineteen-year-old boy died, are described in detail in many articles and textbooks. Without dwelling on this, it is worth noting only that the feat of Alexander Matrosov in the official interpretation clearly contradicts the laws of physics. Even one bullet fired from a rifle, hitting a man, will surely knock him off his feet. What can we say about the machine-gun fire point-blank. In addition, the human body cannot serve as any serious obstacle for machine-gun bullets. Even the first notes of the front-line newspapers said that Alexander's body was found not on the embrasure, but in front of him in the snow. It is unlikely that the sailors threw themselves at her, it would be the most absurd way to overcome the enemy bunker. Trying to reconstruct the events of that day, the researchers settled on the next version. Since there were eyewitnesses who saw Matrosov on the roof of the bunker, he most likely tried to shoot or grenade machine guns through the window for ventilation. He was shot, and the body fell to the outlet, blocking the possibility of removal of powder gases. Throwing off the corpse, the Germans hesitated and ceased firing, and the comrades of Matrosov were able to overcome the sweep of space. Thus, the feat really took place, at the cost of the life of the Sailors ensured the success of the assault of his squad.

There is also a misconception that the feat of Alexander was the first of its kind. However, it is not. Many documented facts have been preserved, as already in the first years of the war, Soviet soldiers rushed to the enemy firing points. The very first of them were Alexander Pankratov - political instructor tank companies that sacrificed themselves on August 24, 1941 during the attack of the Kirillov Monastery near Novgorod, and Yakov Paderin, who died on December 27, 1941 near the village of Ryabinikha in the Tver Region. And in the “Ballad of Three Communists” by Nikolai Semenovich Tikhonov (the author of the famous phrase: “Make nails of these people ...”), the battle near Novgorod is described on January 29, 1942, in which three fighters rushed at the enemy’s pillboxes — Gerasimenko, Cheremnov and Krasilov.


It is necessary to mention the fact that even before the end of March 1943 of the year at least thirteen people - fighters of the Red Army, inspired by the example of Alexander Matrosov, carried out such an act. Over the years of the war, a similar feat was accomplished by more than four hundred people. Many of them were posthumously awarded and received the title of Heroes of the USSR, but their names are known only to meticulous historians, as well as lovers of historical wartime articles. Most of the brave heroes remained unknown, and later generally dropped out of the official chronicles. The dead fighters of the assault groups who fought on the same day near Matrosov and managed not only to crush the enemy’s bunkers, but also, by unrolling fascist machine guns, opened fire on the enemy, were among them. In this context, it is very important to understand that the image of Alexander, in whose honor monuments were built and streets in cities across Russia were named, personifies all of the nameless soldiers, our ancestors, who gave their lives for the sake of victory.

Initially, the hero was buried where he fell in the village of Chernushki, but in 1948, his remains were reburied in the cemetery of Velikie Luki, located on the banks of the Lovat River. The name of Alexander Matrosov was immortalized by Stalin’s order of 8 of September of 1943. In accordance with this document, it was for the first time ever recorded in the list of the first company of the 254 Guards Regiment, where Sasha served. Unfortunately, the leadership of the Red Army, creating an epic image of a fighter who despised death in the name of saving his comrades, pursued another rather unpleasant goal. Neglecting the artillery preparation, the authorities urged the Red Army to go into deadly frontal attacks on enemy machine guns, justifying the senseless death of people by the example of a brave soldier.

Even when clarifying the true story of the hero, whom many generations of our country's inhabitants know as Alexander Matrosov, after clarifying his personality, place of birth, individual pages of the biography and the essence of the most heroic act, his feat is still undeniable and remains a rare example of unprecedented courage and valor! The feat of a very young young man who stayed at the front for only three days. Madness of the brave we sing a song ...

Information sources:
-http: //www.warheroes.ru/hero/hero.asp? Hero_id = 597
-http: //izvestia.ru/news/286596
-http: //ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/
-http: //www.pulter.ru/docs/Alexander_Matrosov/Alexander_Matrosov
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  1. Kubanets
    +26
    23 February 2013 09: 25
    My uncle provided art for the aforementioned battalion with art. For researchers Senior Lieutenant Ivanenko AA. He personally saw the unprecedented feat of a soldier
    1. +8
      23 February 2013 14: 14
      My generation was brought up on the exploits of these HEROES, eternal memory and glory !!!
      1. M. Peter
        +6
        23 February 2013 20: 47
        Superheroes, like the movie. I tell my son about my grandfather and my father who they were and what they did.

        1. Kubanets
          0
          24 February 2013 16: 33
          Thanks for the info I will add Nikita Karatsupu to the heroes
    2. +17
      23 February 2013 15: 09
      Quote: Kubanets
      My uncle provided art for the aforementioned battalion with art.

      So - and there was art support! And there was a feat! And there is no doubt about that. And it should not be! However, the author of the article needed to delve into the mud. Although he didn’t dig up anything there, there was a lot of stink.
      And the nationality, you see, "not that" could have been. And they were "late" with a feat for several. days. And he even tries to formulate the rules for closing the bunker with his body.
      I did not understand what this article was for. Did you really need the details of the autobiography of the Hero? It is extremely important to understand - how can this be closed by a bunker, and even ensure that the unit performs a combat mission? Theorists, damn it! Behind the simulated pathos, liberal donkey ears are very noticeable.
      "... after clarifying his personality, place of birth, individual pages of his biography and the essence of the heroic act itself ...". Those. dug-dug - but nothing was dug up. So, we will "dig" for others, but here ... what can I say ... let it be "the madness of the brave." Well, we are smart, we don't need courage ... From me, minus the article.
      And what nationality did Oslyabi have, or where exactly was the sailor Koshka born, or did the old Susanin run well on skis? This is very important for the "younger generation". But the fact that they did not spare their lives for the Motherland is secondary? Is it just "the madness of the brave"? It's a shame, gentlemen.

      Well, YOU ALL, SERVANTS - WITH A HOLIDAY! WITH OUR HOLIDAY!
      1. +4
        23 February 2013 15: 16
        Quote: ikrut
        It is extremely important to understand how this can be closed by a bunker.
        It's just that various inaccuracies give the "reformers" an opportunity to shout that this is invented. Is it worth giving them such an opportunity?
        1. +4
          24 February 2013 00: 59
          Here the person closed the pillbox with his own body, and the "researchers" need to prove themselves. Well, don't close the pillbox ...
          1. 0
            24 February 2013 18: 02
            Do not close the pillbox ...

            Rather, "do not roll bags ..."
      2. Marek Rozny
        +19
        23 February 2013 16: 18
        For us (Kazakhs, Russians, Ukrainians), in principle, it is not particularly important who the Sailors were by nationality. But the Bashkirs are important. For the first time I read about the Bashkir origin of Matrosov on one of the Bashkir sites about 6 years ago. For them, this is another reason for pride, especially since this is not a myth, but the most likely version of its origin. So I see nothing wrong. Let the Bashkirs be proud that he comes from their people. And we (Kazakhs, Russians, Ukrainians) will be proud of A. Matrosov in any situation.
        1. +11
          23 February 2013 20: 45
          Marek Rozny ". But this is important for the Bashkirs. For the first time I read about Matrosov's Bashkir origin on one of the Bashkir sites about 6 years ago."
          By the way, the Tatars say that he was a Tatar! Although, in principle, no difference. He gave his life for our Motherland! For all of us! Those who question this fact are simply blown away !!
          1. Marek Rozny
            +9
            23 February 2013 21: 29
            Well, the Tatars, like other Türks, love to attribute other Türks to themselves, especially when it is difficult to draw the line))) In general, it was a revelation for me when I learned that the hero of the Brest Fortress, Major Pyotr Gavrilov, was a Tatar, and the commissar Efim Fomin was a Jew. Since childhood, I read dozens of books about the defense of the Brest Fortress, I always thought that they were Russians. But it turned out like that. Such discoveries are really important for our peoples. Each ethnic group should be proud of its contribution to the common victory. In Astana, two years ago, photographs of local veterans were hung on billboards around the city and one by one of their statements - there such phrases are powerful, short, and capacious. “We didn't think about death. We only thought about Victory.”, “It was scary, but I fought for my mother,” etc.
            If the Ivanovs / Akhmetovs / Rabinovichi / Petrenko thought more about their life than about Overall victory, then we would definitely lose the war and shamefully surrender our country, like the French.
      3. +5
        24 February 2013 01: 47
        I don’t see the dirt here. The feat of man remains a feat! But when there are a lot of rumors around, the best way to find out the truth is to collect documents and evidence yourself. The author shows how the state used the act, not only as an example, but also for political purposes. If on the example of self-sacrifice, they say to others - if you are already dying, then do not give your life for a penny, give a chance to others, take away the enemy, save someone else's life, then I consider this kind of propaganda in the Russian spirit! And its political coloring is not so important. If a hastily trained pilot cannot take the plane out of the peak and knows that the last thing he can do is take more invaders with him, then it doesn’t matter if his superior is scum or if he could have done something different .... Important Spirit! And the spirit must be educated on the Truth!
        ... by the way, I really wanted to somehow throw myself off with the leadership of firing at the pigs and check whether he would throw him away from a good line from the MG or pierce a hole ... it’s a pity that the MG was taken away now - the experiment will not be clean! wassat
        1. Marek Rozny
          +1
          24 February 2013 02: 12
          won't push back. ordinary machine gun does not have such a fool. here a large-caliber machine gun in a short time might have torn the body, and MG - stopudovo body does not push back. will pierce through, but what's the point of shooting blindly?
        2. 0
          6 February 2020 00: 11
          Dear, all this has been done with pigs and shooting for a long time and filmed a movie. Did you try to use the Internet?
      4. Chern
        0
        24 February 2013 21: 21
        Is the Glavpurovskaya lie important for the younger generation? All this embellishment and inventing pathos details only devalues ​​the feat, giving ground to idiotic jokes.
        And nationality does not matter - then everyone was Soviet.
      5. 0
        27 January 2023 01: 37
        Power is in the truth! State propagandists used the feat of a person by misrepresenting him and let others also throw themselves at machine guns with their bodies, not realizing that only a chance can stop a machine gun and not a body, there are many soldiers and there may also be more cases ...
    3. +3
      24 February 2013 21: 24
      “Unfortunately, the leadership of the Red Army, creating an epic image of a soldier who despised death in the name of saving his comrades, pursued another rather unpleasant goal. Neglecting artillery preparation, the authorities urged the Red Army to go into deadly frontal attacks on enemy machine guns, justifying the senseless death of people by the example of a brave soldier ".
      Actually, for the sake of this obscene phrase, this material was scratched. Of course, no one neglected artillery preparation, it is impossible to simply suppress all firing points with artillery fire, in principle, what remains for the infantry assault groups.
      Who is this Igor Sulimov, why is he constantly being published here? This is a researcher, historian, what is his qualification? What kind of Internet hamster.
      By the way, I can’t find out who is editing this site at all, Paskudniki state your names and surnames.
  2. +7
    23 February 2013 09: 29
    These events occurred on February 27. This correspondent located in the regiment's location timed the feat to February 23.

    Photograph taken in 1944 year at the place of achievement.
    1. SSR
      +9
      23 February 2013 11: 35
      The feat of Alexander Matrosov will be remembered forever, but the feats of the soldiers of the Red Army will also be "pushed" badly.
      Cholponbai Tuleberdiev (April 13, 1922, Kyrgyzstan - 6 August 1942, Voronezh region) - Red Army soldier, Hero of the Soviet Union.
      One of the predecessors of Alexander Matrosov. On August 6, 1942, he covered the embrasure of an enemy bunker with his body, ensuring the capture of a strategic bridgehead for the offensive operation of the 6th Army of the Voronezh Front.


      Born on April 13, 1922 in the village of Chimgent, now named after him - Cholponbai, Talas region of Kyrgyzstan in a peasant family. Kyrgyz.

      http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D2%F3%EB%E5%E1%E5%F0%E4%E8%E5%E2,_%D7%EE%EB%EF%EE%
      ED% E1% E0% E9
      http://www.warheroes.ru/hero/hero.asp?Hero_id=293
      Eternal Glory to the Heroes!
      Eternal Memory to the Heroes of the Great Patriotic War!
      [media = http: //youtu.be/NdDypp-Dp9I]
      1. Marek Rozny
        +11
        23 February 2013 12: 29

        Sultan Birzhanovich Baimagambetov (Kaz. Sultan Birzhanuly Baimakambetov; 1920-1943) - commander of the machine gun department of the 147th Infantry Regiment (43rd Infantry Division, 67th Army, Leningrad Front), senior sergeant. Hero of the Soviet Union - July 25, 1943 closed the loophole of the machine gun with his chest.
        "... Sultan Baimagambetov is my comrade in arms, we took part in many battles with him .. By the way, in the company he was often called not Sultan, but Sasha. He liked this simple Russian name more than Sultan. If someone called out to him by name, he jokingly wagged his finger:
        - Hush, God forbid, the Nazis will hear, they will raise a noise that the Russians have called for help from some Sultan.
        From a letter from Hanif Gainutdinov, a fellow hero of the Hero and a participant in the last battle.
        July 22, 1943 in a battle near the village of Sinyavino (now Kirovsky district of the Leningrad region) in enemy trenches destroyed up to a dozen Nazis. In the battle of July 25, the advancement of our soldiers was stopped by machine gun fire from an enemy bunker. The brave warrior crawled to the firing point and threw grenades at it. But the machine gun was not silent. Then he covered the embrasure with his chest.

        My father took the oath in the Leningrad region near the monument to Baimagambetov. Father was always proud of this fact.
        And I studied at the Matrosov School in Novotroitsk) We have a whole office dedicated to him.
        1. Marek Rozny
          +7
          23 February 2013 13: 00
          Sabalak Orazalinov - Corporal of the 8th company, 482nd rifle regiment, 131 rifle division, 8 army of the Leningrad Front.

          On November 18, 1944, breaking through the enemy’s defenses, our troops fought offensive battles on the Moonsund archipelago of Estonia in the Kaimru region of the Syrva Peninsula. The landing operation on the island of Saarema has begun. When the artillery carried the flurry of fire to the depths of the enemy defense, the command followed: “Go! Attack!"

          Suddenly, a revived German machine gun of an unsupported firing point hit almost at close range at an advancing eighth company. A submachine gunner running ahead fell. The wounded man fell to the ground, and behind him another. Sabalak Orazalinov burst forward and, firing, ran straight at the enemy machine gun. When the PPSh disk was empty, the fighter was already twice wounded, but with all his strength he jumped to a firing point, covering his comrades with a dead machine gun with his body ...

          On that day, a company of officer Klimov took two farms and destroyed up to 200 Nazis. Orazalinov was picked up by orderlies moving behind the advancing troops. This is incomprehensible, but the soldier was still alive. The seriously wounded were evacuated to the rear to the medical battalion, then to Leningrad to the hospital, where doctors fought for his life for a long time. Having recovered, Orazalinov returned to his homeland in Kazakhstan ...

          Fourteen Kazakhstanis, including 8 Kazakhs who repeated the feat of Alexander Matrosov, were posthumously awarded the title of Hero of the Soviet Union, and miraculously, the surviving Sabalak Orazalinov was not awarded a high prize.

          A good article, but in vain the author doubts that it was possible to close the embrasure with the body - there were hundreds of such cases in the war.
          1. +4
            24 February 2013 01: 56
            ... sometimes, even a few moments, on which the machine gun trails off, is a lot.
  3. +15
    23 February 2013 09: 31
    And I do not care what all sorts of wicked say. For me, Alexander Matrosov was both himself and his feat. Only a sheep can not understand that such people and such actions should always be, if the situation requires it. All with the most correct holiday of the year. Hooray!!! Brothers.
    1. calculator
      +14
      23 February 2013 09: 48
      I fully support ... I was in the hospital with a boy, accidentally found out the story of his Order of Courage (boy) in the First Chechen, they also lay in front of the house, could not raise their heads ... for a long time. coldly. tired ... he was a machine gunner ... just got up and screaming loudly and shooting on the run ran to the basement window ..... then they said that he accidentally killed a random bullet .... but the company got up from the ground and went on.
    2. Avenger711
      -2
      23 February 2013 15: 22
      The situation required grenades in the pillbox and nothing more.
      1. +9
        23 February 2013 20: 40
        Avenger711
        "The situation required pillbox grenades and nothing else."
        Of course!!! Everyone imagines himself a strategist, seeing the battle from the side !!!!!!!!!!
  4. Serg_Y
    +3
    23 February 2013 09: 53
    (+) Thank you, guys!
  5. Straiser
    +7
    23 February 2013 09: 58
    The time was difficult, the country needed heroes, their actions rallied people to achieve the common goal of the entire Soviet people ...
    1. djon3volta
      +4
      23 February 2013 10: 46
      Quote: straiser
      The time was difficult, the country needed heroes, their actions rallied people

      and now how to rally if with the advent and proliferation of the Internet there are too many "truth-tellers" who prevent them from rallying, looking for their mistakes and exposing them as traitors or thieves. Who will rally around here?
    2. +4
      23 February 2013 14: 39
      He was a hero !!! And as he was called Alexander or Shakiryan for his feat does not matter. In the end, he himself wanted to be called that. And no need to invent reasons why he wanted to be called that.
  6. +15
    23 February 2013 10: 04
    Why all this information? Somewhere, someone dug up, nobody checked after him, Shakiryan, was begging, shot, the body fell on the outlet, the hero.
    It was Alexander Matrosov, accomplished the feat, closed the embrasure, saved his comrades, the national hero of whom the whole country knows. The topic is closed and there is no need to delve into such topics after 70 years and bring clarity, conduct mental ballistic examinations. Personally, it doesn’t matter to me how a person lived, it is important what he did.
    1. djon3volta
      +2
      23 February 2013 10: 41
      Quote: max111
      Why all this information? Somewhere someone dug up, nobody checked after him

      that’s why now there is a lot of dirt in the media and the Internet against politicians and officials, those who poke around in dirty linen, such as Navalny and all kinds of bloggers, by their actions they damage the country and not benefit. Do you think Navalny if he dug up dirt on the diplomat, he brought good for the country? but it’s just not, now people will know that officials are stealing, and thus will not trust them, and what this leads to and so we know ..
      1. +3
        23 February 2013 19: 54
        And I already knew that officials steal and without bulk officials did not trust.
        And as for the article - what bad is said about Matrosov ?!
        What will become worse from the fact that everyone will know the truth ?!
        As for nationality - I consider all living Russian culture Russian - Russian Bashkirs, Russian Tatars, Russian Jews, etc.
        As for the criminal record and homelessness, the more respect is worthy of his feat.
        Moreover, the article (and we, her readers) do not underestimate Matrosov and his exploit. There was such a person, made such a feat - and we will remember about it.
        1. +1
          26 February 2013 08: 33
          "What's wrong"? - I think that a previously established history is questioned or even refuted. Although objectively neither earlier nor now (and even later) there will be no reliable information. But trust in our history is undermined, at first it seems like they did not offend anyone, they say, do not worry, the hero remained a hero, but already in the society INCREDIBLE to everything and everyone has strengthened, then you can cook up a new story brought up by new "truth-tellers" and "truth-seekers". One side and the truth, of course, would not hurt to know, but given the subjectivity of history, any digging is destructive (my opinion)
    2. 0
      24 February 2013 17: 16
      max111, in such a subtle matter as the historical truth, the truth must be 100% true. The author has explained more than once that the truth does not diminish the feat of our soldiers, and not only in the Great Patriotic War. And there is no need to "hang dogs" on him. How long have we all lived and live in a lie! Maybe someone is used to this gum? So let him chew it himself. Any distortion of the historical truth and the enemies of Russia will say: "Yes, the Russians are all wrong, wherever you go, yes, actually, and Berlin was not taken by them, but by the allies." And the last thing: behind any feat, soldier or civilian, there is always someone's negligence or defect.
      1. +2
        24 February 2013 19: 32
        It is worth noting only that the feat of Alexander Matrosov in the official interpretation is clearly contrary to the laws of physics.
        Here's an example of how the author understands such a subtle matter as historical truth. And his words about the inexorable feat are just camouflage. The main thing is to generate doubt, and then "helpers" will be found, including in the discussion of the capture of Berlin. There was a battlefield, there was a bunker, there was a battle order and there was a Man's Deed. Everything else, against this background, is secondary. And PR at the grave is the height of Sotinism.
  7. predator.3
    +19
    23 February 2013 10: 15
    It doesn’t matter, the convicted is not convicted, Bashkir or Russian, He just completed a combat mission, at the cost of his life, and this went down in history! soldier
    1. avt
      +8
      23 February 2013 10: 41
      Quote: predator.3
      It doesn’t matter, the convicted is not convicted, Bashkir or Russian, He just completed a combat mission, at the cost of his life, and this went down in history

      All right. The Bashkirs want to consider it their own, for health, do not bother them, let them keep the memory of the Hero! Let the Hero be an example. And he as he wanted, so with the Feat and entered the History of Alexander Matrosov.
  8. 0
    23 February 2013 10: 17
    Congratulations to all on a holiday !!!
  9. Octavian avgust
    +6
    23 February 2013 10: 24
    There was a war, a difficult time and feats were needed to exemplify other fighters and improve morale! And most importantly, the unbroken feeling of the Russian people for further struggle! hi
  10. +4
    23 February 2013 10: 26
    He is a hero, and why delve into dirty linen, someone really wants to prove that he is not a hero or something?
    1. +8
      23 February 2013 10: 55
      Quote: Yuri11076
      someone really wants to prove that he is not a hero or something?

      That's it! They want to show that it was a bully and a criminal in general, and you honor him and consider him a hero! By the way, Sergey Tyulenin was also a notorious bully at school. However, under fascist torture, he did not break down and did not betray anyone! And for us, those who gave their lives for their country, and even become an example for their comrades, will always be heroes! And the fact that the blackening of the heroes of the Great Patriotic War continues is another signal that you can’t calm down, the enemy is on the alert and is trying to poison the mind and soul of our young people.
      1. +4
        23 February 2013 19: 59
        Egozawhat he was a bully and a criminal in general, his feat does not diminish. On the contrary, the fact that he didn’t regret such a life for his country shows the greatness of his soul and love for his homeland.
        Western liberals do not understand this. So you understand.
        1. +1
          24 February 2013 11: 40
          Quote: Andrew-001
          So you understand.

          I understand this perfectly well, but the main thing is to convey this idea to the younger generation. And then they are being brought up now by the liberals. for whom such as Matrosov "Oh, fi-i-i!"
          1. +1
            24 February 2013 14: 43
            Quote: Egoza
            bring this thought to the younger generation
            , I’m doing this in schools as a teacher of life safety and general education. True P ... ss, that is, the pacifists did a good job on the minds of the younger generation crying
            That week I was asked the question - what happened in September 1941 near Leningrad, one 11-grader answered - the greatest tank battle near Prokhorovka.
            I stood and did not know what to say to that. But believe me, it’s still possible to rectify the situation, the gathering on the OVs that we conduct inspire some optimism wink
  11. +1
    23 February 2013 10: 46
    I’m not trying to revise history and all the more to denigrate our exploits, not the same (such words don’t miss)
    It’s just not clear how to close a machine gun? If only a review. The MG-42 will also be thrown back with shots, but in the bunker there was probably something bigger in caliber
    1. +5
      23 February 2013 12: 32
      Time, time is an important factor. And the main thing is not the technical side of the feat, but the fact of its existence, the act itself has enormous moral weight, and this moral factor was decisive.
    2. Baboon
      -3
      24 February 2013 14: 49
      Yes, I’m also thinking that he would close it with his body literally for a couple of seconds and would immediately drop it. Here to cover with an overcoat, somehow you can understand, it was possible to close the review for them longer.
  12. +5
    23 February 2013 11: 13
    The strength of the nation in its unity, all other powers are a consequence. All the actions of scum and freaks to denigrate the great and heroic past of the nation and its heroes lead to disunity, which naturally catastrophically weakens the nation. The enemy found in the ranks of the nation moral freaks, scum, scum, scum of all stripes and shades, different statuses and positions that have no homeland, no flag. And with the help of banal bribery and blackmail he directed these geeks against their own country. That's why, and only because all the time, we see only billans, houses-2, dib series and program shows, and not programs about nature and science, about heroes of different professions, about heroes of bygone days, in general, everything that strengthens the unity of the nation , strengthens her morale, moral character and healthy lifestyle.
    The glory of fear in battle did not know
    swearing under the scarlet silk
    all soldiers alive and fallen
    !!!
    Eternal Glory !!!
  13. Grishka100watt
    +5
    23 February 2013 11: 17
    The article left a double impression. I have not yet understood how I feel about her.
    The only thing I want to note: the penultimate paragraph is not needed. Why is this mud pouring on Soviet commanders? Yes, and February 23.
    Neglected artillery training? What does it mean? The shells felt sorry or were too lazy to drag the guns \ to contact the gunners, did the author want to tell us this? Sorry - no.
    1. +5
      23 February 2013 11: 27
      This author has distorted so, but this does not mean that it was so in fact, because the author simply could not be there. Even if there was a similar situation, then the combat situation required to do so. For a long time I no longer believe in fairy tales about inferior commanders and their unsuitability, I don’t even consider isolated cases, they didn’t do the weather, the weather did military skill of our military of different ranks and ranks, which gained great experience in the first years of the war. The victory was achieved by strategic, tactical talent and the ability of our leadership, soldiers, commanders, and the dedicated work of the Soviet people. Everything else is shit and slander, the machinations of the enemy, dissidents and the fifth column.
      1. Grishka100watt
        +3
        23 February 2013 11: 32
        Here I am about the same.
    2. +5
      23 February 2013 11: 58
      Quote: Grishka100watt
      Neglected artillery training?

      Artillery is not omnipotent. There is a marshland. The artillery cannot be pulled up. If only 45. And bunkers (overlapping in 5 roll-overs) are not easy to destroy. Neighboring bunkers were suppressed by armor-piercers (the commanders did not drive into the embrasures). Well, this one, the armor-piercers could not suppress.
  14. +8
    23 February 2013 11: 19
    He will be a HERO! Glory and Eternal Memory to all fallen soldiers!
    I have come across the phrase "more than 150 people" in the literature. The youngest, Tolik Komarov, was only 15 years old ... Here the article refers to "more than 400 people!" Here is a link to my verse on this feat:
    http://stihi.ru/2009/04/17/3985
  15. +11
    23 February 2013 11: 29
    “The platoon commander, Senior Sergeant Chichibabin, saved me from losses,” Bogoslovsky said. - At the last moment, he rushed to the machine gun and closed it with his chest.
    Sintsov looked incredulous. I knew that when reporting on such things, they sometimes add excess.
    “Exactly,” the theological battalion commander realized. “I wrote you a report.” There’s this machine gun too ...
    They approached the German machine gun nest. Dead Germans lay in the trench, and in the snow, right in front of the machine gun, thrown back by the force of the blow, the soldier's body was spread in the snow in an open fur coat. On the tunic, in the middle of the chest, a large icy spot darkened.

    I trust Simonov more than the current "researchers"
    1. Grishka100watt
      +4
      23 February 2013 11: 33
      I re-read 2 times at least, all 3 volumes) And then I’ll read it again.
  16. anchonsha
    +10
    23 February 2013 11: 33
    Do not believe those who say that there was no Matrosov. He was and there were many more such Sailors. Our real life has its own heroes who climb into the fire saving others, lie on grenades, saving the soldiers. GLORY TO THE HEROES OF WAR YEARS, AFGHAN, CHECHNYA, GLORY TO HEROES WHO DONE THE WORKS IN PEACE TIME !!!
    And only cowards and traitors tarnish our past. And count them aspen
    1. 0
      23 February 2013 20: 02
      I agree with your perfectly correct words
      But with all due respect to you, have you at least read the article carefully?
      Where is it said that there was no Matrosov ?!
  17. +6
    23 February 2013 11: 42
    Yes, and I’ll add more. In order to somehow straighten out the rotten mind of people, it’s necessary through all channels, to turn on radio films like Officers, The fate of a man, They fought for the Motherland, Alive and dead, Only old people go to battle, State border, War in the Western direction and the like, and without a break.
    1. berimor
      +8
      23 February 2013 22: 43
      Absolutely agree!!! And less need to put modern miserable soap series about the war, where generals, officers and soldiers are like in American films with gross violations of equipment, insignia and military etiquette, not to mention the fact that these so-called military men look like pregnant women, not tucked in, tunics are worn like skirts, all the folds are in front, brho hangs over the belt, caps are like on donkeys, ears stick out, stars on shoulder straps are often located so that the ends of the rays go beyond the shoulder straps, the shape seems to be from someone else's shoulder without hemmed collars, awards hang somehow and on the wrong side), etc., etc., and this is with the career generals and officers! Shame and complete heresy! All regular servicemen spit on such "film masterpieces". The directors save on time, normal and competent officers are not invited as consultants. I do not believe that a general or a senior officer does not see this filth !!! Such films vulgarize our army !!! It would be better, really, not to remove that nonsense! These films, and especially the remakes of old films, are pretty shit. Not a single sensible film about the war, so, snotty passions interspersed with sex and an idiotic scenario with the "game" of actors, about which the great Stanislavsky once said: "I don't believe, well, I don't!" Such films should be approached seriously, with an understanding of the historical material, and not as another cut of the dough! It's time to have a conscience.
      1. +3
        23 February 2013 23: 22
        Quote: berimor
        It’s time to have a conscience
        They raped and fucked her for a long time. Yes, and she does not combine with
        Quote: berimor
        another cabin of dough!

        The filmmakers have always sinned with inaccuracy, it’s enough to recall how the Nazi tanks depicted in the boxes of T-55 plywood. And how bad was the BTR-40 and BTR-152? Now many can’t explain whose armored personnel carriers it is. Although there was enough equipment, a whole military unit served it at Mosfilm. And there are already three consultants for the film, led by the general
        1. SSR
          0
          25 February 2013 11: 15
          Quote: Denis
          her on Mosfilm whole military unit served.

          I don’t remember what it’s called exactly .. (I don’t want to search)
          but there Yegor Konchalovsky "served" ..... well, military .. this institution can hardly be called lol and if they act as "consultants" .. in general, both laughter and sin
          1. +1
            25 February 2013 12: 36
            Quote from S.S.R.
            after all, well, military .. this institution can hardly be called and if they act as "consultants" .. in general, both laughter and sin
            A friend served there urgently in the late 80s. What kind of consultant, the equipment was washed and tinted. It is good that there were cavalry emblems in the buttonholes
            And the "consultants" in the credits at the end of the film
  18. prophetic
    +6
    23 February 2013 12: 19
    people fought for their homeland, and they had their idols who helped to defeat the enemy by their own example. And what kind of idols do people have today, Stasik Mikhailov, Sergey Zverev, idiots with TNT and other buggers? where the country is heading, it’s scary to think about while we are doing the renaming of cops, translating arrows and reviewing gadgets
  19. +8
    23 February 2013 12: 24
    A necessary and important article! And it is necessary precisely because it not only does not detract from the feat of Matrosov, but makes it, if I may say so, realistic, "earthly" or something, cleansing it from popular print retouching, which was actively used by the Head of the Red Army to create ideal images of the heroes that were called dress. The creation of such images at that HARDEST time for our country was justified: it was necessary to raise the people to a mortal battle. Therefore, the feat was tied to a significant date and the biography was made ideal based on the requirements of that time, etc. But it is precisely this idealization, lubokness, if I may say so, discrepancies in dates that are now actively used by all the lesbirast-gamemocratic trash, who reeks of Western values, in the unfolding struggle for the minds of the younger generation. And they are used in order, on this basis, to question the heroic feat, the existence of the hero himself: all this within the framework of the campaign deployed by the West for the utmost belittling of the role of Russia in World War II, for its de-heroization. WILL NOT WORK! Aleksandr Matrosov WAS! This is a real simple person with an ordinary biography, and he accomplished a feat, he is a HERO and will remain him for centuries !!
    1. Marek Rozny
      +4
      23 February 2013 12: 45
      I completely agree. The article is necessary and correct. It shows that a simple Bashkir / Russian / Ukrainian / Kazakh / Armenian became a hero at a dangerous moment for the country, even if his biography in peacetime was not distinguished by trustworthiness and holiness.
      The author does not detract from the feat of A. Matrosov, but only makes his figure closer to modern people and this is able to inspire a person more. Any simple "average" person is capable of self-sacrifice and heroic deeds.
      1. Marek Rozny
        +4
        23 February 2013 13: 01
        The only thing, in vain the author doubts that it is possible to close the machine gun in the embrasure with the body. There were hundreds of such cases in the war.
  20. +10
    23 February 2013 12: 37
    Bashkir, Russian, Ukrainian, Georgian - who cares, everyone was the Great Soviet people, everyone fought for their homeland - the USSR.
    Recently, more and more often you can read and see "works" where everything seems to be correct, it seems that the heroism of our people is shown BUT it smells like some sort of smell.
    1. Grishka100watt
      +6
      23 February 2013 14: 32
      They have now changed the tactics of indiscriminate criticism of the Soviet past for a more "intellectual trolling". They insert into a more or less meaningful article little phrases like "Stalinist repression", "bosses", "tyrant", "camps" and other crap)
      Now this is constantly happening.
  21. +11
    23 February 2013 12: 54
    Havoc
    Was it for sure that they then divided themselves into peoples and ethnic groups ?! These guys in green tunics were "We", and opposite them in mouse uniforms were "They" and there was only one road, or "We" or "They", and all these calculations are already the nonsense of snickering descendants.
    On February 21, the head of the Rossotrudnichestvo Representative Office in Israel Alexander Kryukov, his assistant Denis Parkhomchuk and the Consul General of Russia in Haifa Igor Popov visited the only Hero of the Soviet Union living in Israel, Yakov Tsalevich Forzun. They congratulated the veteran repatriate living in Or Akiva on the upcoming Defender of the Fatherland Day, which is celebrated in Russia on February 23. According to the press service of the Rossotrudnichestvo Representation, the meeting with the Hero was also attended by the chairman of the Northern District Committee of the Union of Warriors and Partisans - invalids of the war with the Nazis, Isaak Smoroda, and the chairman of the Union branch in Or-Akiva, Solomon Yukhanov.  
    A native of the Zhytomyr region, Forzun began fighting the Nazis in the summer of 1943 as part of the 199th Guards Rifle Regiment of the 67th Guards Rifle Division of the 1st Baltic Front. After crossing the Western Dvina, an 18-year-old Jewish soldier set fire to two German tanks with grenades. For a year and a half of participation in the Great Patriotic War, 19-year-old Yakov Forzun was wounded five times. He still carries several fragments of German shells in his body.

    1. Marek Rozny
      +10
      23 February 2013 13: 05
      My grandfather Temirzhan Syrlybaev also lived all his life with a German splinter in his heart (received near Kharkov in 1943). Doctors were afraid to pull out a piece of iron, they were afraid to damage the heart that survived in an incomprehensible way. Grandfather died only in 1981.
      1. +5
        23 February 2013 15: 26
        And my father was injured. One heavy and two lungs. The first was in Stalingrad (perhaps because he remained alive because they managed to take him out of the Volga), and the last - on the famous bridge over the Danube in Budapest. He walked in the top five attacking the bridge.
        The war was an ordinary sergeant in the infantry and then a mortar man from Kharkov to Stalingrad and from there to Vienna. He died in 2008.
        1. Marek Rozny
          +9
          23 February 2013 16: 20


          Group "Motor Scooter" - "Song of the War". Awesome song about us and that generation.
          1. +2
            23 February 2013 21: 23
            sorry you can not put a few +++++++++++++
            1. Marek Rozny
              +3
              23 February 2013 21: 35
              By the way, this short video turned out to be international. the songwriter and performer is Kazakh, filmed in Russia, the two main actors in the video are twin brothers from Ukraine.
            2. +1
              24 February 2013 17: 28
              Quote: cumastra1
              sorry you can not put a few +++++++++++++

              THIS SONG perfectly reflects our reality in relation to the feat of generations, on whose share the MOTHERLAND TO DEFEND!
      2. SSR
        +5
        23 February 2013 21: 56
        Quote: Marek Rozny
        My grandfather

        Named Grandfather .. named street .. (by Father)
        A book is written about Grandma and Grandfather .. (by Mother)
        Today I was at Granny's ... she also partisaned at the factory ... in rare moments ... (like today) what she says about the war .... blood runs cold in the veins .... about how in Narva. Brothers Relatives died with the words "oh Mom ..." about what kind of wheat was born on the blood ...
        I just want to say one thing ... we should not forget those peoples that walked shoulder to shoulder ... and try to put them below us ... at one time "Soviet Man" sounded Strong ... but now many are trying to denigrate or crap the essence of the RF.
        like I'm "Russian" and the rest of the aphids .... roughly .. instead of I'm Soviet .. I'm Russian, like I'm not "Russian" I'm ********
  22. zol1
    +7
    23 February 2013 13: 31
    We got these diggers and "truth-lovers" who themselves cowardly sit in warm places and are weak to perform worthy deeds in this life. Eternal memory and glory to the heroes! They will always be remembered, unlike those who are poking around in their past trying to find the negative in their biography. Happy real men's holiday MEN !!!
  23. +6
    23 February 2013 13: 35
    Know Heroes by name - that's right! But on the other hand, is it so important, one way or another his name was. All of them are Warriors of the Great Patriotic War - Heroes !!! And you need to remember this not only during the holidays, but every day, every hour, every minute. The more time passes from the day of that Great Victory, the more important it is for us, for the country, to remember and pass on to our children, grandchildren and great-grandchildren the whole truth about that war. Should we forget about this and us, our memory will be deprived of that story, replacing it with a Hollywood fake, where we are assigned the role of always beaten, wild bears, suitable only for showing in a circus in a cage. Winner people - sounds proud, do not forget about it.
    1. +5
      23 February 2013 19: 53
      Quote: Sinbad
      Know Heroes by name - that's right! But on the other hand, is it so important, one way or another his name was. All of them are Warriors of the Great Patriotic War - Heroes !!!

      Remembered today at the table, as always, on holidays such dead relatives. Mom remembered how she and her father (he hadn’t been there for five years) were at the memorial near the village of Kryukovo. There, the name of the deceased sibling of his father is knocked out at the memorial. Father was reading surnames on stone boards and found another surname - the husband of his own sister. It turns out lie in one grave. There are more than 760 names on the memorial. Here is such a sad story. [Media = http: // http: //www.youtube.com/watch? V = Eonul5JYyg0]
  24. +6
    23 February 2013 14: 03
    The author is simply an anti-Soviet and wrote this article under the cover of the name of Alexander Matrosov. He was so tormented in search of the "truth" that Matrosov is not quite Matrosov. And Soviet officers deliberately threw soldiers at non-suppressed firing points, and this myth was invented specifically to raise morale, so that more soldiers rushed to the embrasures. Eternal memory to the heroes and eternal shame and my curse on this filthy author.
  25. +4
    23 February 2013 14: 25
    The task of all nonhumans to cast doubt on the past historical period of our once Great State! Today there is so much dirt pouring from the screens that today's statement on the victory won by Russia in the Great Patriotic War is not surprising! What Russia !?
    There was one huge country, the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics!
    All the people living in the USSR fought, regardless of nationality! They won the victory!
  26. Passing
    +8
    23 February 2013 14: 34
    The article is exactly what govnovbros. Well camouflaged like that.
    feat ... contrary to the laws of physics. Even one bullet fired from a rifle, hitting a person, will certainly knock him down. What can I say about the machine gun line at point blank range.

    A bullet fired point-blank, throws an elephant to the moon, yeah, yeah, you need to watch less Hollywood action movies, and they’ll not show that there. Practice shows (newsreels shots of shoots from a mosquito) that a person doesn’t really throw him anywhere, and he often falls forward, even when he just stood, and when a person rushes bending down on a machine gun, then he will fall on a machine gun.
    Moreover, the human body cannot serve at least as any serious obstacle to machine-gun bullets ..

    And this is stated by people who are spouting something about the "laws of physics"!
    And it’s true that we have the laws of ballistics, we have intuitive physics, obviously we have a lead bullet, and a man consists of water, so that a person’s body is complete nonsense, not an obstacle, paper holds that bullet better, anyone who owns it physics will confirm you, paper has a density higher than water. Yes, and heard some facts in the smoking room from the experienced that formerly up to a hundred people used to be killed by one bullet, and maybe even a thousand. And the fact that when a bullet was wounded for some reason got stuck in the body, so it must have been the first thousand people killed by this bullet, nevertheless it was slowed down slowly ... about the air. The laws of physics are easy to argue with, you can’t argue with them! laughing
    You can also say something about the review covered by the body, but what's the point if such obvious things do not even occur to the "reenactors", it is hopeless, this is a clinic.
    Even the first notes of the frontline newspapers stated that the corpse of Alexander was not found in the embrasure, but in front of him in the snow.

    The machine gun fired, Matrosov rushed to the embrasure, caught the line, died before reaching the end, blocking the machine-gunner's firing sector. What is incomprehensible here, what is contradictory here? Why cut appendicitis through the tonsils?
    1. Passing
      +14
      23 February 2013 14: 35
      Trying to reconstruct events ... He was shot and his body fell on the vent, blocking the possibility of removal of powder gases. Dropping the corpse, the Germans hesitated and ceased fire, and Matrosov’s comrades got the opportunity to overcome the shooting range

      Nonsense. Just imagine, the Germans got out of the door in the BACK of the Bunker, climbed onto the roof and threw off the body FORWARD. belay Not pulled back, which is the most natural, from the point of view of the same "physics", grabbed and pulled, at the same time protects the body from bullets, not thrown to the side, which is more difficult, but pushed forward, onto its embrasure ??? !!! fool
      It looks like these "reenactors" were systematically violating the labor code along with safety measures - you can't eat a lot at work! Well, okay, I drank a bit, we are all human, but stop, know when to stop, but no, they'll get drunk in the trash, and let's "reconstruct" ...
      It is unlikely that the Sailors would rush at her breasts, this would be the most absurd way to defeat the enemy bunker.

      Now everything has fallen into place, now it is clear why these "reenactors" are trying to turn themselves inside out, producing some version sucked out of their finger. It's just that they sincerely do not understand how it is possible - TO DONATE YOUR LIFE FOR COMRADES TO LIVE. This idea is absurd and ridiculous for them, because they would never have done this for anything ...
      1. Grishka100watt
        +2
        23 February 2013 15: 09
        by 5 points.
      2. MichaelVl
        +4
        23 February 2013 19: 28
        > DONATE YOUR LIFE FOR COMRADE LIVING.

        I’ll add a little bit - so that comrades, parents, wife, children, brothers live ... MOTHERLAND!
  27. Avenger711
    -14
    23 February 2013 15: 30
    at least thirteen people - fighters of the Red Army, inspired by the example of Alexander Matrosov, carried out such an act.


    Yeah. Wanted to repeat.

    The story is actually simple, like a pancake, I wanted to throw a grenade into the pillbox, you can even climb onto the roof and try to knock down a machine gun from a position, just don’t grab your hands without gloves, but winter time and 99% of the mittens do not even sweep away this option. It did not work out, they killed, or dragged down, the body closed the embrasure, which the attackers took advantage of.

    ALL.

    And the tales about closing the embrasure with his chest in combat conditions will not just have no impact, but are simply true, since any soldier in the trench understands that there are many ways to deal with the pillbox without excessive heroism, moreover, it may raise the question: Were there no grenades? Well, hurt our army! " In general, a piece of paper with such an agitation will be rolled out, or instead of a burdock, especially if the paper is soft.
    1. Passing
      +10
      23 February 2013 16: 27
      Quote: Avenger711
      Yeah. They wanted to repeat ... And the fairy tales about he covered the embrasure with his chest

      One more, damn it, the hero of our time, another one, damn it, enlightened by the West, raising its priceless I to absolute value. Well, then, man is the whole universe, the highest value of the galaxy, which must be protected more than conscience and honor.
      Soviet people not only threw machine guns, they also threw grenades to save comrades, and there were hundreds of such real people, it’s 100% fact, it’s quite not propaganda. In my city, not in 41, but in the 80s, the military instructor covered himself with a grenade unsuccessfully thrown by a schoolboy at a training camp. This man did not think what all of himself the navel of the universe and its highest value, he not at all he did not hesitate in choosing between his conscience and duty, and his skin.
      1. Marek Rozny
        +7
        23 February 2013 16: 42
        Quote: Passing by
        In my city, not in 41, but in the 80s, the military instructor covered himself with a grenade unsuccessfully thrown by a schoolboy at a training camp. This man did not think what he was all of himself for the navel of the universe and its highest value, he did not hesitate to choose between his conscience and duty, and his skin.

        In our KZ every few years, unfortunately, there are similar cases in the army when recruits drop a cocked combat grenade. In all cases without exception, their officers covered the grenade with their bodies. One (in VV) remained disabled, while other officers died. Only one soldier was wounded in these cases, the rest of the boys remained alive.
        As far as I know, there have been exactly such cases in Russia too.
        1. MichaelVl
          +7
          23 February 2013 19: 43
          Marek Rozny,
          Last year 29.03.2012/XNUMX/XNUMX there was just such a case. Surname of officer Solnechnikov.

          > Major Sergei Solnechnikov, commander of the communications battalion, was killed during fire training classes in Belogorsk, Amur Region. After being thrown by conscripts, a military grenade hit the breastwork of the trench and ended up at the feet of his colleagues. The major covered the grenade with his body, protecting the soldiers from shrapnel .......

          An excerpt from the site of the channel "Vesti".
      2. Avenger711
        -15
        23 February 2013 19: 45
        Are you so stupid that you don’t understand the difference between throwing a grenade when nothing else is left, or an air ram when embezzlement is spent, and a calm throwing a grenade inside a bunker?

        They tell you in Russian that there are a lot of ways to cope with a pillbox without throwing your chest into the embrasure, after all, a soldier has not only weapons, but also official life, and before "heroically" dying with a dubious effect, your corpse will be pushed away quickly, think more you will be useful if you stay alive.

        The tale of Matrosov during the years of the War was perceived as nonsense and caused a lot of questions. You can read at least a little research on this subject. Because its delusionality for any soldier who has seen this very pillbox and understands at least a little tactics of fighting him is obvious. Dot in general is not a very serious obstacle, in fact, it rarely inflicts losses, it was discovered that they were rolled out by artillery, a lot of business.

        And bad propaganda is a terrible thing.

        And so I'm sorry, but some pilot who shot down 30 planes and survived the War is much more a hero for me than a dubious character from a front-line newspaper, who is not a fact that he did something there.
        1. Marek Rozny
          +5
          23 February 2013 19: 54
          I mentioned Sabalak Orazalinov was already twice wounded in that battle, when he decided to rush into the embrasure. That is, he apparently believed that already and so would bleed and die. He no longer had cartridges and grenades. The guy decided to sacrifice himself in order to give time to his colleagues to regroup and come closer to DotA. It is clear that the body will soon be pushed away, but during this time while the enemy hesitated, others have the opportunity to run closer in the embrasure. Even if the hitch is only for one minute, the other soldiers will have time to run a few hundred meters. And this is a lot.
        2. Passing
          +11
          23 February 2013 20: 33
          Quote: Avenger711
          Are you so stupid that you don’t understand the difference between throwing a grenade when nothing else is left, or an air ram when embezzlement is spent, and a calm throwing a grenade inside a bunker?

          Do you think Matrosov was dumber than you? He threw this very grenade, the machine gun fell silent, the company got out into the attack, the machine gun started working again, people are in an open field, there is nowhere to hide, a minute of machine gun operation - a hundred corpses of your friends and comrades. Now the question is - your actions? You no longer have the grenade. What will you do? I'll tell you what you will do - wait until the whole company is destroyed, raise your paws, and go to surrender, like "I did everything I could", "my conscience is clear", "we are civilized people, we cannot demand the impossible." Ask, who are you, what would you do? Yes, xs, it would be enough for me to save a hundred people at the cost of my life, but I know for sure that if it were not enough, then I would never say a bad word about who could, because for me there is an inner feeling of a cowardly skin , this is a reason for shame, and not a reason to raise your self-esteem by trampling into the shit of Heroes.
          1. Avenger711
            -8
            24 February 2013 13: 59
            Wait, he turns out to throw her? Nobody here even saw the feat, but threw a grenade ... Sorry, but even in the absence of grenades, I will believe in the simplest version that the guy climbed onto the roof of the bunker, grabbed the machine gun, as I already noted, winter time, mittens d / b, tried to pry, but he was pulled down and shot.
            You know, in Russia there are enough real heroes to come up with propaganda ones.

            Myths, in any case, are harmful, both black and white, because at one fine moment a person can find out the truth and the reaction will be "everyone lied to us !!!" And the person to whom "everyone lied" no longer believes in anything but bad, which is actually observed in Russia now, when any undertaking by the authorities, even the most correct one, is met with hysterical criticism, and the people hate perestroika, but still believes into the myths they created.
            1. Drosselmeyer
              +1
              25 February 2013 02: 38
              What kind of machine gun to grab? The barrel of the machine gun in the bunker is usually hidden in the recess of the embrasure, and does not stick out like in a movie. Sailors fell on the embrasure, the machine gunner was forced to stop firing because because of the body, the shelling sector was not visible. The machine gun was mounted in a bunker on the machine and it was necessary to go around it and move the body back, or swing it away. With a dead body, this is not so simple and will take some time.
        3. +3
          24 February 2013 12: 12
          Citizen Avenger711 apparently overplayed his call of duty and thinks that the ammunition can be replenished and saved around the nearest corner. And in his childhood dreams he performs feats every day as a character from the screensaver of the "Army Shop"
          1. Avenger711
            -2
            24 February 2013 14: 01
            Just imagine, but in real life, the corpses do not even disappear, just imagine how many corpses there could be near the pillbox, since they came to it, only the Germans from the field filling with their "potato drills".
  28. +7
    23 February 2013 15: 56
    We leave the details and details to historians. And the Feat remains the Feat. And it’s not as important as the name of the Russian soldier who gave his life for his homeland. It is on such examples that the younger generation should be brought up. And all fans of tearing off masks should be sent for a labor feat somewhere in the Arctic.
    1. MichaelVl
      +4
      23 February 2013 20: 03
      lewerlin53rus,
      Yes, in fact, then there is no mask!
      The feat was, period! And the feat is NOT single!
      1. +1
        23 February 2013 20: 49
        Quote: MichaelVl
        Yes, in fact, then there is no mask!

        there is no mask, but there are lovers
      2. +3
        24 February 2013 14: 13
        The phrase "to repeat the feat of Matrosov" is translated into English as: to sacrifice one's life for one's country (to sacrifice one's life for the sake of the Fatherland).
        284 people who repeated the feat of Matrosov. Among the heroes who performed such a feat, there are three women: partisan intelligence officer Rima Shershneva, who covered the embrasure of an enemy bunker with her body on November 24, 1942, during the battle of her squadron with punitive forces on the territory of the Gomel region of Belarus. A similar feat on the territory of the Leningrad region was accomplished by another girl - a partisan Nina Bobyleva. "Alexandra Nozadze, a native of Abkhazia and political instructor of the company of the 1151th rifle regiment of the 343rd rifle division of the 56th army. 1941 near Rostov-on-Don.
  29. busido4561
    +1
    23 February 2013 17: 00
    Cognitive information. Congratulations to all Happy Defender of the Fatherland Day! soldier (busido4561, Kazakhstan)
  30. 0
    23 February 2013 17: 19
    The feat of Alexander Matrosov in the official interpretation is clearly contrary to the laws of physics.
    If we are talking about the laws of physics, I declare with all responsibility that if a bullet has a very high initial speed, then it flashes the body through and through. If not, then she gets stuck in it. In any case, the kinetic energy of the bullet is not enough to discard the body. If the body lies in front of the embrasure, the machine gun, of course, on the drum, but for the shooter this is a serious problem. The body obscures the view, and going out and removing it can be difficult. All the same, sometimes they shoot. For those who study physics in Hollywood action films, I can advise you to read a school physics textbook!
  31. 0
    23 February 2013 17: 21
    The feat of Alexander Matrosov in the official interpretation is clearly contrary to the laws of physics. Even one bullet fired from a rifle, hitting a person, will certainly knock him down.
    If we are talking about the laws of physics, I declare with all responsibility that if a bullet has a very high initial speed, then it flashes the body through and through. If not, then she gets stuck in it. In any case, the kinetic energy of the bullet is not enough to discard the body. If the body lies in front of the embrasure, the machine gun, of course, on the drum, but for the shooter this is a serious problem. The body obscures the view, and going out and removing it can be difficult. All the same, sometimes they shoot. For those who study physics in Hollywood action films, I can advise you to read a school physics textbook!
  32. 0
    23 February 2013 17: 27
    The feat of Alexander Matrosov in the official interpretation is clearly contrary to the laws of physics. Even one bullet fired from a rifle, hitting a person, will certainly knock him down.


    If we are talking about the laws of physics, I declare with all responsibility that if a bullet has a very high initial speed, then it flashes the body through and through. If not, then she gets stuck in it. In any case, the kinetic energy of the bullet is not enough to discard the body. If the body lies in front of the embrasure, the machine gun, of course, on the drum, but for the shooter this is a serious problem. The body obscures the view, and going out and removing it can be difficult. All the same, sometimes they shoot. For those who study physics in Hollywood action films, I can advise you to read a school physics textbook!
  33. 0
    23 February 2013 17: 31
    The feat of Alexander Matrosov in the official interpretation is clearly contrary to the laws of physics. Even one bullet fired from a rifle, hitting a person, will certainly knock him down.


    If we are talking about the laws of physics, I declare with all responsibility that if a bullet has a very high initial speed, then it flashes the body through and through. If not, then she gets stuck in it. In any case, the kinetic energy of the bullet is not enough to discard the body. If the body lies in front of the embrasure, the machine gun, of course, on the drum, but for the shooter this is a serious problem. The body obscures the view, and going out and removing it can be difficult. All the same, sometimes they shoot. For those who study physics in Hollywood action films, I can advise you to read a school physics textbook!
  34. 0
    23 February 2013 17: 33
    "The feat of Alexander Matrosov in the official interpretation clearly contradicts the laws of physics. Even one bullet fired from a rifle, hitting a person, will definitely knock him down."
    If we are talking about the laws of physics, I declare with all responsibility that if a bullet has a very high initial speed, then it flashes the body through and through. If not, then she gets stuck in it. In any case, the kinetic energy of the bullet is not enough to discard the body. If the body lies in front of the embrasure, the machine gun, of course, on the drum, but for the shooter this is a serious problem. The body obscures the view, and going out and removing it can be difficult. All the same, sometimes they shoot. For those who study physics in Hollywood action films, I can advise you to read a school physics textbook!
  35. +3
    23 February 2013 17: 45
    Hello, all a happy holiday!

    Who the fuck is any doubt?

    I didn’t go to school yet, but already knew who the Sailors were and what he had done.
    It is worth mentioning that even before the end of March of the 1943 year, at least thirteen people - fighters of the Red Army, inspired by the example of Alexander Matrosov, carried out such an act. In total during the war years, more than four hundred people performed a similar feat. Many of them were posthumously awarded and received the title of Heroes of the USSR, but their names are familiar only to meticulous historians, as well as lovers of historical wartime articles.

    Therefore, a request to the author to illuminate all (if possible) heroes who have accomplished a feat similar to that of A. Matrosov. I am sure people will read with pleasure.
  36. +5
    23 February 2013 17: 46
    "The feat of Alexander Matrosov in the official interpretation clearly contradicts the laws of physics. Even one bullet fired from a rifle, hitting a person, will definitely knock him down."

    If we are talking about the laws of physics, I declare with all responsibility that if a bullet has a sufficiently high initial speed, then it flashes the body through and through. If not, then she gets stuck in it.
    In any case, the kinetic energy of the bullet is not enough to discard the body. If the body lies in front of the embrasure, the machine gun, of course, on the drum, but for the shooter this is a serious problem. The body obscures the view, and going out and removing it can be difficult. All the same, sometimes they shoot.
    For those who study physics in Hollywood action films, I can advise you to read a school physics textbook!
  37. MichaelVl
    +7
    23 February 2013 20: 09
    The ending of the article is unambiguously unpleasant about the so-called "petty goal" of the Red Army to cover up the lack of artillery preparation by people ... I would even say that it is not serious like talking and writing.

    Personally, I do not believe in the bloodthirstiness of our Red Army, which it is fashionable to exhibit in the post-Soviet years. NONSENSE!
    Propaganda should be, it was, is and will always be! In any army!
    A NORMAL soldier or officer ... yes, just any person from the told story about any feat will always draw adequate conclusions and will know that our people are capable of such acts and will remember such examples and educate their children on them, and will not think through about underhanded petty goals ...

    This is a war, everything happens there - and artillery preparation is not always possible to carry out, and forces are often unequal, .. but the task and order must be completed! Such a choice arises - either you will accomplish a feat, or your enemies will slam you just like that.
    Everything is simple :)

    I believe that "smart" reasoners on the topic "you all cover machine guns with your chest, and we would rather drink tea and cookies at home without grenades and guns," nevertheless, a minority. And the same Matrosov did not give his life for such nits.

    Eternal memory and glory to our Heroes !!!
    1. berimor
      +14
      23 February 2013 23: 26
      I, a former colonel of the Soviet Army, went through two wars and I was ashamed to read such an article! Yes, during the years of the war, both Patriotic and in local conflicts, anything happened, that's why she was a WAR, damn it! but to train soldiers to deliberately throw themselves at embrasures and suppress machine guns instead of artillery is a tactless and FIRST LIE !!! Yes, in war, and not in films, it often happened that there was not enough shells, especially until mid-1943, the density of fire was therefore insufficient and, naturally, many firing points were not guaranteed to be suppressed. And to call the impulse of the soul in a mortal battle, maybe, in part, a desperate, all-protective mind, hatred of the enemy, an illiterate action of a soldier - this, brothers, is the height of bestiality! Such technocrats, probably, saw the war in modern "children's military serials" and in computer games like, it was smooth on paper, but they forgot about the ravines !!!
  38. a boat
    +2
    23 February 2013 20: 24
    The author’s version is not without logic during the war. Heroes are needed, perhaps invented, but they amaze new heroes. Perhaps Alexander didn’t breastfeed the embrasure themselves. completed a combat mission and this is important! Glory to the heroes!
    1. +5
      23 February 2013 21: 35
      Eternal Glory to the Heroes! At that time, heroes were needed, and no matter how they appeared, the main thing is that they were and were right! Not a thug, not forgive a duck, not a drug addict and not gay. The heroes who were equal, thanks to whom they won. It was thanks to them that the country of the USSR stood, and everyone around them trembled with fear that "crazy Russians" who despise death would come to them.
      Everyone wants to live always. My grandfather told me that there were cowards who specially slipped a foot under the tank, so they didn’t want to go to the front line, and the heroes fought until the last bullet, and then got up to the last attack (where are the samurai?), And they drove them with machine guns without artillery preparation the threat of execution on the spot.
      They say heroes are born where there are no professionals, yes, maybe so. But this is a fortitude, it is expensive.
  39. pribolt
    0
    24 February 2013 01: 52
    After reading, there was only one unpleasant aftertaste when the author doubted whether the hero really wanted to rush into the embrasure. But the rest, the fact that he was a homeless child and was in a labor colony, I personally only once again proved that it is precisely such people who for the most part perform feats, and not people who are right in life, who are set as an example in normal peacetime by others. ..
  40. busido4561
    +2
    24 February 2013 12: 34
    Even in school times under the Soviet Union, we, as pioneers and Komsomol members, knew and were proud of our Heroes of the Great Patriotic War. Alexander Matrosov was and is a man who gave his life for us! Eternal memory to the Heroes!
  41. 0
    24 February 2013 13: 13
    yes it was REAL PEOPLE like this from the big LETTER. THANKS TO YOU !!!! and forgive us for the fact that we are so inconspicuous for all the blood you got and then!
  42. galiullinrasim
    +1
    24 February 2013 14: 04
    it’s not that the Georgian Tatar Chuvash or the Chukchi is of great importance. It follows from this that each nationality developing brought victory. and let them, by their own examples, raise a new generation of good heroes. Neither oil and diamonds, etc. our wealth. analysis of such people. for some, the machine gun does not discard the body. they were pushed by the Nazis. They had sticks in the bunker specially. Therefore, 2 guys went to the bunker one by one. There were such cases. Thank you grandfather for the victory. Happy holiday
    1. +2
      24 February 2013 15: 17
      The most complete truth Gerasimenko, Krasilov and Cheremnov - Novokuznechane. In one battle, one after another they closed the pillbox embrasures with their bodies.
  43. Ruslan80
    +2
    24 February 2013 18: 28
    It is on such Heroes that the young generation should be brought up, as in the USSR
  44. AK-47
    +4
    24 February 2013 19: 07
    But Alexander did not rush into the embrasure with his chest - such a way of dealing with enemy bunkers is absurd.


    In Soviet times, it was at the site of the death of A. Matrosov.
    At that time, there was a small Stella dedicated to the feat and concrete layout of a bunker in full size. I was also interested in the question of how much it is possible to close the embrasure with my body and whether it was impossible to destroy Bunker no matter how otherwise.
    And that’s what I found out for myself.
    1. The embrasure of the bunker was up to 50 cm in height and not more than 120 cm in width, the lower section of the embrasure was at ground level, in front of the embrasure there was an open space of at least 50 meters.
    The human body, lying opposite the embrasure at a distance of 2 meters, almost completely covers the shelling sector, especially in the presence of snow.
    2. The space in front of Dzot was well shot, the luck was that A. Matrosov managed to overcome it and made his way close to Dzot in the non-shot area. Here he had two possibilities: to destroy Dzot with a grenade, but he seems to have used up grenades earlier or to shoot the Dzot inhabitants with small arms, for which it is necessary to look into the embrasure with a firing machine gun.
    Sailors made the only right decision - he blocked the bunker bombardment sector with his body, which ensured the success of the attack of his comrades.

    1. Alexander 1958
      +2
      24 February 2013 22: 43
      Good afternoon!
      I want to supplement your post with several numbers. MG tape capacity with cartridges of 150 rounds. Barrel replacement interval 1 tape. Barrel replacement time 8 seconds. It was during these 8 seconds that you could run from place to place, the rest of the time just waiting for you to not get hit ... You are absolutely right that the body lying in front of the embrasure simply did not allow firing and gave several precious seconds to overcome these 50 meters ..
      Alexander 1958
      1. antibanukurayza
        0
        25 February 2013 09: 13
        do not make me laugh. You attack, in the same ranks as your comrades, with whom you only recently shared a cigarette. And then dagger machine-gun fire. For some seconds, the queue squinted ahead of those walking .... you see how a bullet blows your comrade's skull (figuratively), cut one of his legs and he screams in a terrible voice. Bullets whistle at your temple ....
        And what, in this situation, you will lie and remember the MG materiel and its performance characteristics?
        The firing points are usually constructed in such a way that the firing sector covers as many dead spaces as possible. How will you lie and just wait for the fascist to change the barrel in the area being shot? Can you count the number of shots until you count to 150?
        1. AK-47
          0
          25 February 2013 16: 49
          Quote: antibanukuraza
          do not make me laugh. You ... in this situation, you will lie and remember the equipment of MG and its performance characteristics?

          However, he ran and neutralized the bunker. At the cost of his life.
  45. -4
    24 February 2013 19: 29
    During the years of my childhood, it was a practice to invite war veterans to open lessons. At one of them, we discussed the feat of A. Matrosov and came to the conclusion, together with the veteran, that covering the embrasure of the bunker with the chest is not entirely effective. Most likely, the version that he closed it deliberately inflated our propaganda, and he covered it purely by accident, but of course, this does not cancel his feat.
  46. valiant
    +2
    24 February 2013 23: 45
    By the way, I remember well there was a monument to Matrosov at the fork of Dmitrovsky and Dolgoprudnensky highways (Moscow, 1-2 km from MKAD), but for some reason it was demolished during the reconstruction of Dmitrovsky highway ...
    1. +1
      25 February 2013 00: 02
      And I have --- the neighboring street is called Aleksandra Matrosova Street. There are times in our country when monuments are demolished, the cities and mother Russia are renamed. It only seems to me that this cozy and quiet street will remain Alexander Matrosov Street .
  47. antibanukurayza
    +2
    25 February 2013 09: 06
    Hedgehog it is clear that the future of the people is closely connected with its history. I open the truth to the uterus !!!
    The consciousness of the younger generation is deliberately poisoned with "Internet truth" about the heroes of the Second World War, their biography is exposed, they begin to be clever, like "the situation demanded this and that." And if this person himself would find himself in a non-standard situation for him? Would he behave according to the requirements of this situation? I'm sure not!
    Little people pouring mud on the memory of the older generation. It was on these Sailors, Cosmodemyans and many others like them that the generation that passed Afghanistan, Tajikistan and many points that we don’t even know about has grown. And this generation has raised those who have gone all over Chechnya and are still there!
    Before you look for someone’s flaws, pick out the dirt from under the nails, look at your nails, clean yourself of the dirt yourself, and then think: what have I done for my people? Revealed the truth? And who is easier? Gorbachev or Yeltsin?
    And let the truth-diggers remember or remember a simple truth: About the dead, or good or nothing. This comment is addressed to those who are looking for the "truth", and he will understand that I am referring to him.
  48. +5
    25 February 2013 10: 22
    Shepherd and flea

    A shepherd in the mountains mourned his
    Sentinel Faithful Dog:
    Fearless dog fights wolves
    And, having fulfilled his duty, in an unequal battle fell ...
    "Saving a flock from my sheep’s misfortune,
    You have sacrificed life! ” - the old peasant whispered.
    Out of nowhere, insignificant flea
    She cast her voice upon hearing the Shepherd:
    “Sacrifice is alien to me! If I bite
    That, having bitten the enemy, I myself do not die! ”
    “Well, where do you understand the high, bold spirit -
    The madness of the brave is not in your nature!
    All your life you've been sitting on someone else’s skin
    And therefore intact! ” - answered the Shepherd.

    Another youth who did not know life yet,
    Giving nothing to the people and the Fatherland,
    Know judges of another exactly like that Flea:
    “He accomplished a feat? What nonsense! ”

    Fable of Sergei Mikhalkov
  49. Ratibor12
    +2
    25 February 2013 22: 11
    "... Neglecting the artillery preparation, the authorities urged the Red Army men to launch deadly frontal attacks on enemy machine guns, justifying the senseless death of people ..."

    Ugly article.
    Well, in general, everything is clear. Our pale-faced brothers from the USA and Europe do not need a new generation of sailors in Russia. Entire flocks of Jewish scribblers suck, pervert and denigrate the symbols and memory of the people.

    The symbols around which the peoples of the former USSR can rally should be destroyed. Negative images of our past have already been imposed on people. Everything is bad. Victory - they filled up with corpses. All statesmen from princes to general secretaries (no difference) are bloody tyrants. The world's best education is a dumb scoop. The world's second industrial power with a great culture - "Upper Volta with missiles".

    Do not argue with mongers from the fifth column. It would be foolish to argue with an SS officer or a traitor policeman. One bullet, another loop. That’s the whole story.
  50. 0
    5 September 2018 13: 31
    The credo of the article is "When you need to say nasty things, but society is against it."
  51. 0
    9 August 2022 11: 28
    Even one bullet fired from a rifle, hitting a person, will definitely knock him down.
    You don’t need to read any further from this expert.
  52. 0
    27 January 2023 01: 42
    [quote=Viktor Kosyanovich]Strength is in truth! State propagandists used a man’s feat by twisting it and let others also throw themselves at machine guns with their bodies, not understanding that only chance can stop a machine gun and not a body, there are many soldiers and there may also be more cases... maybe they will silence more machine guns. What about the soldiers? What about the soldiers? Let's find more, isn't it a pity?!