Behind the scenes of Ukrainian Nazism

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Behind the scenes of Ukrainian NazismWho is behind the party VO "Svoboda" O. Tyagnibok?

February 6 at a meeting of the Presidium of the Supreme Council of the Autonomous Republic of Crimea adopted a resolution on the need to counter the strengthening of neo-Nazi sentiments in Ukraine. In particular, the statement of the press service of the Crimean parliament emphasized: “A clear manifestation of this trend was the arrival in the Verkhovna Rada of the All-Ukrainian Union“ Freedom ”, whose leaders in their public statements use Nazi rhetoric. We consider it expedient to create an All-Ukrainian anti-fascist association of deputies of all levels in order to counteract the spread and propaganda of the ideas of Nazism in Ukraine. ”

It is clear that the creation of the "All-Ukrainian Anti-Fascist Association" Edward Leonov, deputy of the Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine from the party "Freedom", announced an attempt to discredit the Ukrainian nationalists.

In fact, the initiative of the Crimean parliamentarians was a response to the “banderization” of Ukraine announced by one of the most active “figures” of “Freedom” - the infamous Irina Farion. This new political term was put into circulation at the gathering of Ukrainian Nazis in Lviv on January 1 of this year, the occasion for which was “an important historical date ”- the 104th birthday of the leader of Ukrainian collaborators Stepan Bandera. That day, Farion said: “We will demonstrate to the whole world that today the great Bandera nation has revived. The greatest gift at the feet of Stepan Bandera lies our unique victory in the elections to the Verkhovna Rada. This is so far our first achievement in Ukraine’s banderization. ” The logical conclusion of the "banderization" of Ukraine should be the seizure of state power. This was openly announced by the deputy chairman of the Freedom party, Andrei Mokhnik, at the “torchsung” in Kiev. Like Farion in Lviv, Mokhnik began his speech with boastful statements about the creation of a "bridgehead of Ukrainian nationalism within the walls of the Verkhovna Rada." But the highlight of the program was the following statement by Mohnik:

“Very soon we will have considerable power in our hands. The 105 anniversary of the birth of Stepan Bandera, which we will celebrate next year, imposes a great responsibility on us: we must unite the nation and be ready to take full power in the state. ”

We add that the data of sociology register a slow, but still steady growth in the rating of Ukrainian Nazis. So, February 7 published the results of a sociological survey conducted by the OPAD foreign policy research center, according to which, three months after the parliamentary elections, the number of supporters of Freedom IN increased from 10,44% to 12,4%. Their leader Oleg Tyagnibok has already announced his intention to stand as a candidate in the presidential election 2015 of the year.

Only two years ago, Freedom was a politically insignificant, marginal movement that geographically did not go beyond the three western Ukrainian regions - Ivano-Frankivsk, Lviv, Ternopil. The nationalist electoral niche developed by Tyagnibok and the company long before their appearance on the political stage was already thoroughly dug up by a number of other small-scale parties and movements of a similar sense: KUN, NRU, UNA-UNSO, UNP. Even under the conditions of the Orange Revolution, the Ukrainian Nazis could not achieve any significant results in elections at all levels. And suddenly, “Freedom” literally within a few months makes an amazing political takeoff, achieving an unprecedented result in the parliamentary elections and becoming one of the most influential parties on a national scale. As you know, in the big politics of chance and miracles do not happen. Immediately after summing up the 28 October 2012 elections to the Verkhovna Rada, in the Ukrainian mass media, publications began to appear one after another that certain forces and groups of influence were directly interested in pushing the political Olympus.

Otherwise, it is impossible to explain where the recent local Ukrainian party of the recently suddenly had financial resources for conducting a large-scale propaganda campaign, the implementation of high-profile street actions and the creation of a network of organizations in all regions of the country.

So who was behind the party, and for what purpose did you intend to use it?

First of all, it is necessary to mention an important “milestone” in the history of the Freedom Party. 3 October 2012 year, the Higher Administrative Court of Ukraine officially recognized it as a Nazi organization. One of the main arguments in favor of this decision was the fact that earlier the Freedom Alliance was called the “Social-Nationalist Party of Ukraine”. Indeed, quite obvious parallels can be seen between the Hitlerite “National Socialists” and the Tyagnibokov “Social-Nationalists” in the sense that both of them initially collected mainly marginal criminal elements under their banner. Accordingly, Tyagnibok’s party cash desk was replenished with money of a very dark origin coming from “sympathizers” from the criminal world of Western Ukraine. In this regard, we note that in September 2011, some facts of the “opaque” biography of two leaders of Freedom, who occupy high posts in the authorities of the Lviv region, came to light. So, the deputy chairman of the Lviv Regional Council Petr Kolodiy in the "dashing" 90 years was connected with the criminal authority Orest Zavinsky nicknamed "Zavinya" and took part in racketeering on the Lviv clothing market "Pivdenny". And the 31-year-old deputy of the Lviv regional council from Svoboda, the secretary of the commission on the fuel and energy sector and entrepreneurship development Anatoly Zavaruyev received a suspended sentence for burglary in 2001 (robbed a stall in the village of Krasnoye for the amount of one and a half thousand hryvnias). But all this, as they say, is "flowers."

28 August 2012, the Ukrainian analytical publication “Versions” published a material called “The Gangster Wars of Ukraine”, in which the history of the bloody clashes among the leaders of criminal gangs of the Lviv region was described in great detail. The reason for the publication was the perfect 24 of August 2012 of the year in Lviv, the murder of the well-known criminal authority "Vova-Mordy" (Vladimir Didukh). It is appropriate to ask the question: where does the political party “Freedom” come from? The fact is that journalists many times asked the “Freedom” deputies about the sources of their funding. All questions were usually followed by a stereotypical answer: the financial support is handled by a specially created Economic Council of the Party. It was the chairman of the Economic Council of VO “Freedom” Igor Krivetsky who turned out to be one of the main figures in the journalistic investigation of gang wars in Western Ukraine. As the journalists found the newspaper "Versions", in the criminal environment Krivetsky was known by the nickname "Pups" and was part of the brigade of Lviv authority "Kohli-Roquero", who was shot dead in November 2007 of the year. Another interesting fact: Krivetsky is the co-founder of a certain LLC Mongusta, established in 2008 year. Another founder of this commercial structure is a certain Maxim Vladimirovich Didukh, the son of “Vova-Mordy”. And for such a close commercial partnership there were very good reasons. According to the operational data of the anti-drug trafficking department of the Lviv Central Internal Affairs Directorate, Krivetsky - Pups owns a network of nightclubs, which are known to Lviv operatives as sales points for cocaine, ecstasy and other "rave" narcotic substances. And the drug traffic in the Lviv region controlled Didukh- “Morda”. It can be assumed that either through the aforementioned company the drug money laundering was carried out, or Krivetsky in this way created for himself certain security guarantees. Also, it cannot be excluded that the introduction of Didukh junior into the business was carried out for reasons of ensuring the latest political career, as the son of Vova Morda was nominated as a candidate for deputy of the Ukrainian Social Democratic Party, and a considerable amount of money is needed for the election campaign . Moreover, Didukh Sr. himself showed considerable interest in real politics. As the journalists found out the Ukrainian edition of Tsenzor.Net: “Vova Morda spoke with politicians. Bogdan Shkarada, the former head of the Ministry of Internal Affairs for the Lviv region, said that "Morda" was actively helping the "orange" revolution and his people were guarding some of the opposition on the Maidan. “Morda” was also called the adviser to one of the “Orange” ministers ”.

Apparently, the money from the criminal "obschak" was quite enough to push Pushkin and his "brothers" into the deputies of the local councils of three Western Ukrainian regions. But for the performance of "Freedom" in the elections to the Verkhovna Rada needed a much more serious sponsor. And such is really found.

The oligarch Igor Kolomoysky, the “gray cardinal” of one of the most influential financial-industrial groups in Ukraine, took on further financial efforts to promote politics.

This is the Privat group (according to the data of the Ukrainian economic journal Focus, the state of Kolomoisky exceeds 6 billion dollars). December 7 2010 Kolomoisky gave an interview to the Kiev newspaper Stolichnye news”, In which he stated about the“ great prospects ”of the Freedom party. “In the near future, Freedom can take over leadership in the West and in the Center of Ukraine. After the collapse of the former leaders of the Orange movement, Our Ukraine and BYuT, this niche remained unfilled, a vacuum was created, ”the oligarch emphasized. To the journalist's question about the frankly Nazi manners of the company and the company, Kolomoisky condescendingly replied: "I see that lately Freedom has clearly shifted from ultra-nationalism closer to the center, has become more moderate." Indeed, the party immediately after the launch of the December 9 2012 session of the Verkhovna Rada of the VII convocation demonstrated its “moderation” by introducing a bill introducing a tax on Russian songs performed on radio, in movies, on television and on stage, and on imposing fines for conversations of Ukrainian citizens in Russian.

Of course, such a close interest of Igor Kolomoisky to the party, which is known for its anti-Semitism, seems paradoxical. Kolomoisky is well known not only in Ukraine, but also in Europe for its Zionist views.

But the common hostility towards Russia unites Kolomoisky and, on this basis, the latter has a similarity of interests with the most odious Russian “political émigré” Boris Berezovsky.

As noted by the observer of the Ukrainian Internet publication From-ua, Peter Bespalov: “Almost behind all the cases of“ pushing ”Russian investors out of the Ukrainian market is the Privat group and its ideological inspirer, Igor V. Kolomoisky. Another interesting fact is that for many years Igor Kolomoisky has maintained friendly relations with the disgraced Russian oligarch Boris Berezovsky. Their correspondence has already been repeatedly made publicly before, in particular, a letter from Kolomoisky about upcoming events on the eve of the events on Maidan in 2004. And in the future, they repeatedly met (and continue to meet) in the territory of Israel, whose citizens are both. Moreover, after each such meeting, there are some events in Ukraine: either a political upheaval or serious troubles among large Russian companies, which have an extremely negative effect on the country's economic well-being, but it brings serious profits to Kolomoisky and, probably, to Berezovsky. ” We add that Kolomoisky is one of the most zealous opponents of Ukraine joining the Customs Union, which he has repeatedly stated publicly. And this, again, ideologically brings him closer to the Ukrainian Nazis.

Finally, there are some other practical interests in the alliance of Kolomoisky with Tyagnibok. October 22 2008, when Yulia Tymoshenko was the Prime Minister of Ukraine, political analyst Taras Berezovets gave an interview to the newspaper Novy Region, in which he declared: “The radical nationalist party Svoboda has every chance to go to the Verkhovna Rada, since now this political force has stable funding, which is provided by co-owner of Privat Group Igor Kolomoisky. Kolomoisky is counting on the fact that Tyagnibok will take votes from Yulia Tymoshenko, and the tense relations between the Privat group and the prime minister are not a secret. ” As far as the serious clashes were going on between the oligarch and the “Lady Yu”, one can judge by the following statement by Kolomoisky: “If Tymoshenko becomes president, then I will leave for emigration.”

At the end of this picture, we add that when in November 2012, the editor-in-chief of the “Kiev Jewish” media project Eleonora Groysman opened the campaign against Freedom, accusing her of Nazism, Kolomoisky openly took the leader of the Ukrainian Nazis under protection.

On the day of his election as president of the Jewish community of Ukraine, he called not to be afraid of Oleg Tyagnibok: “I believe that there are no grounds for panic.” In this regard, we note that Tyagnibok himself made a return obeisance to Kolomoisky: in an interview with the Ukrainian edition of the Correspondent, he said that the assault detachments of the Svoboda party would cut only the “communists and Moscow agents”. This interview was published under the heading: “Who will be the first to cut it?”

However, it is not only Kolomoisky who seeks to use “Freedom” in his own interests. 20 December 2012, a Ukrainian political analyst Mikhail Pogrebinsky, in an interview with Nezavisimaya Gazeta, suggested that the administration of the President of Ukraine could have a hand in breaking through to Verkhovna Rada. In his opinion, the Yanukovych team decided to use Tyagnibok to take away part of the votes from the “traditional opposition” headed by Yulia Tymoshenko. Within the framework of this scenario, the Freedom, Faryon and other leaders of Svoboda provided regular flashes on the largest Ukrainian TV channels, whose shares belong to persons from the inner circle of President Yanukovych. In this regard, it should be remembered that this kind of “tricky scheme” quite successfully worked in the local elections 31 of October 2010. Moreover, information about the corresponding "intersection of interests" of the Party of Regions with both the "orange" and the "brown" nationalists was not a secret. Three months before the regional elections of 2010, one of the then leaders of the Yulia Tymoshenko Bloc (BYuT) Andrei Shkil gave a very interesting interview to the Russian news agency Rosbalt, in which he said that the Party of Regions is developing a scenario of artificially raising the rating of the Fronts for Change, Arseny Yatsenyuk and “Freedoms” in order to “pull away” BYuT votes in Western Ukraine. “The Party of Regions will help these forces in order to maximally press out the BYuT. We know this, so they still will not succeed. We know about these plans and will win the elections, ”Shkil said. Nevertheless, the political strategists with Bankova succeeded completely: according to the results of the local elections in October, the PR received 2010%, BYuT - 36,2%, "Front for Changes" - 13,1%, VO "Svoboda" - 6,84%. But such schemes usually do not work for a long time. What actually happened during the parliamentary campaign of 5,11. It was about this that political analyst Mikhail Pogrebinsky said in the above-mentioned interview: it came out according to the principle “they wanted, as it was better, but it turned out, as always” - and the opposition gained the percentages it expected, and “Freedom” was put into the first echelon of the Ukrainian political party, turning it from regional and marginal political forces to national ones.

However, it cannot be excluded that Viktor Yanukovych and the ruling Party of Regions are playing a far more complicated and multi-pass political combination, implying the use of the “dark” party.

The “Freedom” obscurantism is fully capable of consolidating the incumbent’s voters on the eve of the 2015 election of the year.

Let's say more: against the background of the “national revival” and even the entry of Ukraine into the Customs Union against the background of the яг яг ни не не, the average, sensible Ukrainian will have no objections.
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  1. +11
    22 February 2013 07: 49
    The sources of Freedom’s popularity are not only in gigantic investments, not only in well-known names not only at the Ukrainian level, but also in the fact that for 20 years no one has offered a real program for withdrawing their country of task ... The people simply disbelieved in all those in power who is next to the authorities ... By the way, the situation is the same in Russia. Who will vote for President Zhirinovsky now? Or someone from the old politicians?
    Ukraine is on the verge of a fierce struggle. On the eve of choosing the path to Poland and the EU or to Russia? Remain a single state or fall into three, at least parts ... And delaying this choice of power is getting harder and harder
    1. Uncle Serozha
      +6
      22 February 2013 08: 08
      Quote: domokl
      The people simply disbelieved in everyone who is in power, who are next to power ...

      I agree, this is the main factor. It is very sad to observe what is happening with Ukraine, but it seems to me that one radicalism should in no way be opposed to another - this does not work.
      If, in response to statements by Ukrainian nationalists, we get a flurry of Russian chauvinistic comments, then they have achieved their goal. Radicalism has always been fueled by other radicalism, but what radicalism doesn’t stand is clashes with common sense. Here he usually passes.
      And therefore - empathizing with our Ukrainian brothers, let's not teach their lives with aplomb. Judging by the comments of Ukrainian forum users, which I see here, they have enough intelligence and common sense. So the Ukrainian nationalists have few chances ...
      1. +1
        22 February 2013 08: 23
        Quote: Uncle Seryozha
        And therefore - empathizing with our Ukrainian brothers, let's not teach their lives with aplomb. Judging by the comments of Ukrainian forum users, which I see here, they have enough intelligence and common sense. So the Ukrainian nationalists have few chances ...
        The question of learning or not teaching is not worth it and was not ... The decision will still be with the people of Ukraine ... However, if such articles are published here, then Ukrainians are interested in our opinion and our experience ... Russia still remembers the marches of Nazi nationalists on the streets , Russia remembers the separatist rallies ... But we survived it .. And for the Ukrainians it is in the present ...
        1. +4
          22 February 2013 11: 34
          Quote: domokl
          But for the Ukrainians it is in the present ..

          Abutalib said:
          "If you shoot the past with a gun, the future will shoot you with a gun."
          This is what those who are trying to separate us from Russia and support the fascists have forgotten about! However, the guys started to play too much! It would not be too late!
        2. opkozak
          +3
          22 February 2013 13: 01
          Yes, we all understood. It was 2004 in Ukraine. The year the beginning of the disastrous result. Nobody believes anyone else ...
          Neither right nor left. Neither blue nor red. Neither the king - father, nor the glorious Caesar. You know, when they ask from Russia how it is, I always answer with the words of Gogol's Cossacks to Catherine !! "Why not live somehow? Mom." And I ask them in the same words: "Is it true that the kings eat only honey and lard, and the like?"
      2. +4
        22 February 2013 08: 28
        Hitler, as it were, also at the beginning of his career promised to lead the country out of a severe crisis. And, one might say, deduced. This is me about the parallels between and the dissolution of people in power.

        Nobody will teach anyone life, this makes no sense here, people from power are unlikely to read this resource. As for the assumptions that this PR is trying to delay the vote at the expense of Bandera ... ohoho, it is doubtful somehow. However, if this is the case, PR puts a banderlog with an ax on his bough. Rating in 10-12% is an indicator. Bad indicator.
      3. Goga
        +4
        22 February 2013 11: 19
        Uncle Seryozha - Sergey, any Nazism - Ukrainian, German, Russian, Jewish ... - is a dirty trick and, above all, brings trouble to its own people. With an unfavorable economic situation in the country, the base for the Nazis is always expanding - in Germany, for example, Hitler climbed on top of the wave of popular discontent with the country's plight after the defeat in World War I. In Ukraine now, too, there is no sugar, so tyagniboks and confuse people, but let's hope for the common sense of the people. If these cadres get to the serious power - "Nenka" will come full of abdragan.
        But in general, the union of the Zionist and Ukr. the Nazis-this is already something beyond ... belay
    2. Yoshkin Kot
      -5
      22 February 2013 08: 25
      I hope that the next president of ukroin will be a tyrnibok-frotman, a terrible end is better than horror without end laughing
      1. biglow
        +5
        22 February 2013 10: 49
        Yoshkin Cat,
        here you are right, if the Nazis come to power on the outskirts, this will be the last election. The people suffer all their last efforts only thanks to the well-known patience of the Russian people, the situation has not passed into the hot phase.
        Natsik from the scum reluctantly yet to admit that only three areas of Galicia are the place where they can create their dream state .. And the rest suffer, but sooner or later everything will unfold in a mirror.
      2. 0
        22 February 2013 14: 09
        Quote: Yoshkin Cat
        better terrible end than horror without end

        Who is better?
        1. Yoshkin Kot
          0
          23 February 2013 18: 51
          everyone, the masks will be reset
    3. Avenger711
      +3
      22 February 2013 08: 27
      Therefore, they voted for Putin.
      And Nazism was finally called Nazism, and rightly so.
    4. NOBODY EXCEPT US
      0
      22 February 2013 08: 49
      Why three parts? What is the third?
      1. opkozak
        +2
        22 February 2013 13: 05
        Right-Bank, Left-Bank and Subcarpathian Russia. Three separatist movements in modern Ukrainian politics. The latter is most similar to Kosovo (a very poor region, and always under any government, both Austrian, Hungarian, and Soviet).
    5. Octavian avgust
      +1
      22 February 2013 14: 34
      For all the current alignment of oligarchic forces in Ukraine, everyone has forgotten that the people are also the subject of power. And you do not need to anger him, driven to despair, he himself will take them all to existence!
      Yanukovych and the family digs a hole in the same prison and will fall! No need to look towards Washington and Brussels, foreign countries will not help them. Real output TS and CSTO! drinks
  2. +2
    22 February 2013 08: 02
    The motleyness of the political elite and the anger with which they are fighting for power, AT Fascinates and worries Ukraine
  3. biglow
    +9
    22 February 2013 08: 59
    Behind the scenes of the bastards are the citizens of Israel, as well as the boxer Klitschko. They have a short memory ..
    Meanwhile, on February 23, in Kiev, Klitschko will hold a tournament in honor of the UPA, dedicated to the 100th anniversary of the last UPA commander Vasily Kuk.
    “UPA warriors fought both against the Nazis and against the Red Army. They fought for their independence. I deeply respect the people who fought for their freedom, ”Klitschko said on the air of the ICTV channel about those who fought against people like his grandfather, the Red Army.
    and this was said by a man whose grandmother Tamara Etinson,
    1. Captain Vrungel
      +12
      22 February 2013 09: 37
      You have definitely noticed that "shtsyri ukrayyntsi", as they are abbreviated as Zh (Iteli) I (Ordan) D (olins) s, are spinning at the top of the opposition. They are at the top of the coalition, power, and oligarchy. Selected Ukrainians got places only in backing vocals and dancers. What kind of Ukrainian nationalism can we talk about if all the top officials, on occasion, "put a kippah (yarmulke) on their heads in public, forgetting that they only held" kosher "fat in their hands at a meal. There is only one conclusion. Well, not given, historically. One hope for a brother from Muscovy. Will come and put things in order.
      1. +5
        22 February 2013 11: 35
        The basis for the development of VO "Svoboda" has been created by the state for 20 years! During this time, a whole generation of young people has grown up! They studied the history of Ukraine from "Svidomo" textbooks! The absence of an intelligible foreign policy of Ukraine, the impoverishment of the population, are an excellent environment for forming the opinion among people that only VO "Svoboda" is capable of protecting ordinary people from the tyranny of local "kings"! And the most important thing: whoever finances the Bandera supporters, the state is losing the information war, where much is decided by how the media present this or that event! Graduates of the Kiev-Magilanskaya Academy (created with money from the CIA and the Ukrainian diaspora) are now present in all major media! Ordinary people (especially in rural areas, and the main population of Ukraine is "Selyuk") do not have the opportunity (in most cases) to watch TV alternative to Ukrainian! In most cases, there is a suppression of the successes of the CU, Russia, Belarus, and the protrusion of the advantages of the EU, the glorification of the OUN-UPA !!!!
    2. +4
      22 February 2013 11: 37
      Quote: biglow
      and this was said by a man whose grandmother Tamara Etinson,

      And which Kiev was saved by caring Ukrainians from Babi Yar! His father is an officer, I suppose he is turning over in his grave!
      1. biglow
        +3
        22 February 2013 12: 12
        Egoza,
        and what else to expect from the territory on which the twice-seated president rules, and two prime ministers are already sitting, and who next can only guess
    3. Yoshkin Kot
      +2
      22 February 2013 13: 50
      and the Schickelgruber didn’t come up on his own, the joke goes that his mother worked as a maid for Austrian Rothschilds before his birth recourse
    4. Kaa
      +3
      22 February 2013 14: 10
      Quote: biglow
      and this was said by a man whose grandmother Tamara Etinson,

      As Rus Zaporozhye wrote earlier that Svoboda is funded by Kolomoisky. Now it becomes clear why. Tyagnibok is a misdirected Jewish kakzachek. Moreover, he denied such a connection, as did Kolomoisky himself. The truth about Tyagnibok appeared on the blog of the "Hromadsky Journal". Tyagnibok Oleg Yaroslavovich, put forward his candidacy for the post of President of Ukraine in the 2010 elections. He occupied the far-right niche of Ukrainian politics, which had previously been empty for a surprisingly long time. However, does this mean that a national idea is really being revived in Ukraine (even in the form of VO Svoboda, which in its behavior borders on neo-Nazis)? However, as Dr. House said, "Everybody lies ...". So in the personality of the Neobander of our time, upon closer examination, some inconsistencies begin to be seen, if not to say - an outright lie. "The maiden name of his grandmother is Frotman (among Jews, nationality is transmitted through the female line)." I did not believe that Tyagnibok was sponsored by Jewish oligarchs, and now I believe.
      It turns out that this is such a cunning Jewish trap to take away the votes of Ukrainian patriots. "" Who should we believe now? " that people, driven to extremes by one "artist of the spoken genre" and "vivid mriynytsya of all Ukraine - Rus", begins to be led to the tales of another "mriynik". However, if Ta boiled down everything to the fact that the Donetsk Aligarhs are bad, and the Dnipropetrovsk ones are good, then this one decided to show people the root cause of all troubles in a more tangible version - that there is a Jew living on your street (Pole, Tatar, Russian) - he is to blame for that you feel bad. It was they, the damned ones, who destroyed the economy, occupied all the jobs, raised the price of gas, etc. Choose me, I will drive them all out and create an earthly paradise for Ukrainians. Ukgaine stgashny dirt. And I still get this dirt out. And Schaub I lived like that, if I'm not a patriot. "Http://www.rus.zp.ua/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=2291:2011-06-0
      3-00-39-41&catid=68:2010-12-19-09-02-53&Itemid=111
  4. DeerIvanovich
    +3
    22 February 2013 09: 46
    It is regrettable, but the path of the Freedom Party to power goes exactly in the same patterns as Hitler's Natsiks.
  5. Larus
    +3
    22 February 2013 11: 16
    The Jews play out with them. It is only worthwhile to express something about the Holocaust, then howl raise the whole world, and then fraternize, well, well.
    These banderlogs need to block oxygen on all fronts.
    It is a pity that on the outskirts there is no memory day for the victims of the UPA, which is just as needed, because these thugs, and it was the criminals who gathered there, killed primarily their neighbors-brothers, who had different views
    Viktor Polishchuk
    "The bitter truth. Crimes of the OUN-UPA (confession of a Ukrainian)"
    http://www.zaistinu.ru/articles/?aid=403
    1. -1
      22 February 2013 12: 37
      Larus
      It’s not pleasant that among Jews there are figures like Kolomiyets, but judging him by all Jews is like judging Russians by Serdyukov and Vasilyeva.
      1. Larus
        +1
        22 February 2013 13: 09
        The main thing here is not to be confused, but you obviously dug the wrong way.
  6. ChornuiVoron
    +1
    22 February 2013 11: 38
    About huge investments delirium, how much Royal did she spend, but what's the point? Mostly people voted, because there is no one to vote for. All the rest are just boiled in one pot, they run from party to party. Each election is the same. Tymoshenko is still a swindler, Regionals zadolbali with their priestly lies.
    1. 0
      22 February 2013 11: 49
      Quote: ChornuiVoron
      About huge investments nonsense,

      Well, if 7 of millions of dollars for a passage in BP in Freedom - a small amount ...... winked
      Although the regionals are paid 10 million belay
      And how do honest people break into BP?
      1. Skavron
        +4
        22 February 2013 12: 03
        Quote: Egoza
        And how do honest people break into BP?

        I think only on tanks
  7. ChornuiVoron
    +5
    22 February 2013 11: 58
    Quote: Egoza
    And how do honest people break into BP?

    There are no honest people there. They are representatives of the oligarchs who parasitize on the body of the people of Ukraine, using our work and resources for their own enrichment. Such people do not have a nationality, they do not care Europe, Russia, the United States, KI \ itai would be deprived * pa warm. They will sell all the land, the army, our girls and so on.
  8. Mefodiy
    -4
    22 February 2013 12: 19
    And I voted for Svoboda, although I do not share most of the views (of the leaders). And why - but because, when they get to the VR, the tough guys celebrate some leaders from the PR, first of all the railroad train (not to be confused with a Jew) Boris Kolesnikov .. Why? For the condition of the roads and the loot stolen from this, for the HU.DAII trains, for the preparation for EURO-2012, for the fact that HIS company Altcom-Bud with my company did not pay off for the work performed on the construction of objects for EURO ... The list goes on and on. And, by the way, including for complete disregard for the state language of the state, when he was in the post of deputy prime minister (probably no one forced him to take this position), under the current Law of Ukraine on the civil service.
    1. biglow
      +3
      22 February 2013 13: 10
      Mefodiy,
      this is a very dangerous path, Hitler also came to power through elections, the consequences are known ... But to demand knowledge of Ukrainian is absurd ...
      1. Mefodiy
        -1
        22 February 2013 13: 46
        Well, there is a valid LAW about the civil service, as I wrote already. And B ... Kolenikov is obliged to fulfill it - the WHOLE "VICE-PRIME" of the whole country. Honest pioneer - he would have been Deputy Prime Minister Yenakiyevo - but even in Chinese, if the local community is not against it.
        1. biglow
          0
          22 February 2013 14: 22
          Mefodiy,
          In the territories with the Soviet past, everyone understands the Russian language. Moreover, Ukrainian is more a dialect than a separate language, if you look at it from a scientific point of view
          1. Mefodiy
            -2
            22 February 2013 14: 44
            Here you remember the "Soviet past". And in Soviet times, about "Ukrainian is more of a dialect", Soviet science said that it was a language and spoke not only in Lvov, but also in Kharkov and St. Petersburg and Moscow.
            1. biglow
              +3
              22 February 2013 16: 48
              which is the minuscule, what does Soviet science have to do with it? We open the large Oxtford dictionary and look at the term languages, then the term dialects or dialects. Before the revolution, it was the same. The language differs from the dialect in a set of certain factors. In particular, the roots of words, cases, declensions and so on. There are no such differences between Belorussian and Ukrainian. They are considered conditionally linguistic. More for political reasons. Western linguists do not care about politics and they write about the real situation. The current promotion of Western Ukrainian dialects to replace the traditional Poltava dialects is more a political issue. There are more carriers of dialect does not become.
              Be realistic, without the support that was in the languages ​​of small people in Soviet times, languages ​​cannot and will not develop
              1. Mefodiy
                0
                22 February 2013 17: 25
                Why don't you want to agree that three related languages ​​came from a common root (as we were taught in Soviet times, to which many refer when it is beneficial) - the Slavic language. And how can a dialect have so many dialects (dialects) - Volyn, Pole, Galician, Poltava, Verkhovinsky (Transcarpathian), Hutsul, Lemko, Sumy. Or agreeing with this contradicts the Russian nationalists. Then you pour "water into the mill" by Irina Farion.
                1. Skavron
                  -2
                  22 February 2013 17: 39
                  Ay Methodius handsome)))
                2. biglow
                  0
                  22 February 2013 18: 21
                  Mefodiy,
                  you need to read about languages ​​yourself and figure it out. Then you will understand what is at stake. There are dialects and there are dialects, these are different things. Belorussian and Ukrainian are dialects and the ones listed Volyn, Poles, Galitsky, Poltava, Verkhovynsky (Transcarpathian) , Hutsul, Lemkovo, Sumy are dialects. For example, the Karelian-Finnish, Finnish and Hungarian languages ​​have a common origin, but developed independently and became completely separate languages, having only some common words and roots.
                  Ukrainian and Belarusian have the same structure as the Russian language. The number of common words is more than 70 percent. That is, there is no difference
                  1. Skavron
                    0
                    22 February 2013 18: 31
                    biglow
                    Why don’t you change the flag yet?
                    Come on, woo ...
                3. Yoshkin Kot
                  -1
                  23 February 2013 15: 41
                  Yeah, you’re not tired of coming up with the Ukrin language, what’s going on in your yard there? coolie? SPHERES?
          2. biglow
            -1
            22 February 2013 18: 13
            biglow,
            who is minus, there are no more arguments laughing
            1. Skavron
              0
              22 February 2013 18: 26
              Quote: biglow
              who is minus, there are no more arguments

              You just have arguments from the Strugatsky brothers
              1. biglow
                0
                22 February 2013 18: 33
                Skavron,
                I need to insert quotes from scientific books on philology in order to prove something. Everyone has the Internet. Literature is all in free access. Read, study, understand.
                1. biglow
                  0
                  22 February 2013 20: 11
                  biglow,
                  why again, minus, the search is broken?
      2. Kaa
        +2
        22 February 2013 13: 55
        Quote: biglow
        .A demanding knowledge of Ukrainian is absurd ...

        Well, why is absurd, one can agree ... in some territories. But in the same territories, it is necessary (according to European standards) to introduce a law on restitution (Vyrvibok requires lustration, and the Poles and Balts carried out it together with restitution). Then half of Lembergshchina, Stanislavshchina, Tarnopolshchina and others will pass into the hands of the "effective owner" - the heirs of the Poles evicted from there. So let them be served by the adherents of the one indivisible sovereign language - there is no need to go "to earn money" in Europe, she herself will come to them ... fellow
        1. biglow
          +1
          22 February 2013 14: 20
          Kaa,
          this is a good option
          1. Kaa
            +2
            22 February 2013 18: 46
            Quote: biglow
            this is a good option
            Not for everyone, of course.
            "January 27, 1938 at a meeting of the statistical commission" Science Association im. Shevchenko "in Lviv, Dr. Volodymyr Ogonovskiy made a report on the topic" National, social and professional structure of the population of Lviv according to the population census of December 9.12.1931, 1938. "The text of this report was published in 9.12.1931 in the form of a brochure entitled" Lviv in numbers ". Based on the data provided in this brochure, the total population of the city as of December 312.231, XNUMX was XNUMX people. According to confessional lines, this population was distributed as follows:
            Greek Catholics 49.747 people or 15,9%
            Orthodox 1.077 people or 0,3%
            Roman Catholics 157.490 or 50,5%
            Moses (i.e. Judaists) 99.595 people. or 31,9%
            other 4.322 people or 1,4%
            As for the distribution according to nationality, it should be borne in mind that nationality then, as before in the days of Austria, was determined by the spoken language. The composition of the population of Lviv "shodo movi nayblyzhchy" looked like this:
            Ukrainians 24.245 people. or 7,8%
            Rusyns 10.892 people or 3,5%
            Poles 198.212 people or 63,5%
            Jews 75.316 people or 24,1%

            other 3.566 people or 1,1%
            Summing up, the speaker described the situation of Ukrainians in Lviv in the following way (translation from Ukrainian):
            “Consequently, Ukrainians in Lviv are mainly young, free (ie, not married, - LS), an influx, not very literate, mostly working element. For 30.000 of all Ukrainians and Ukrainians who earn in Lviv, there are 9.700 servants, 2.000 watchmen, 1.400 unskilled workers and 9.000 skilled workers and artisans. In addition to domestic workers, Ukrainians nowhere have a relatively large number, and as for 11% in trade, there are half a watchman for 4.000 Ukrainians ... There is nothing to say about intelligent professions. Even in industry, Ukrainian workers and artisans play a certain role, but as a hired force. "
            Everyone who is able to objectively analyze the figures given will easily understand what place Ukrainians occupied in Lviv in the 30s of the XX century. By national composition, Lviv was then a Polish-Jewish city, and in no way Ukrainian. Ukrainians were inferior to Poles and Jews not only in numbers, but also significantly behind them in their social and professional level. By the way, about fashionable apartments in prestigious areas, where Ukrainians were allegedly evicted from. If before 1939 a Ukrainian appeared there, it was only as a servant. Poles and Jews who then occupied these apartments could complain about the eviction. But the Lvov Jews during the German occupation were exterminated by the Nazis. After the war, the Soviet government forced the Poles of Lviv to leave for Poland. Http://www.ukrstor.com/ukrstor/sokolov_lvovua.html But the heirs remained !!!! I feel sorry for them crying you need to return to their ownership almost the entire center of Lviv ... request
        2. Mefodiy
          -2
          22 February 2013 14: 26
          No need to start ..))) And if you do not like the OPERATING LAW about the state language - make changes to the Law - but in a democratic way. You don’t drive "red" in principle and because it is prohibited by law. And such comments, in my opinion, are "narrow-minded". And people go to work from all over Ukraine, what's the difference where - the main thing is that there would be decent wages and decent conditions, if this is not in the homeland ...
          1. Skavron
            -2
            22 February 2013 18: 29
            Methodius, it doesn’t matter, here people don’t give a damn about the law ... and the fact that the neighboring state is independent ... the main thing is to insult the fraternal people .... and even better, to admit that such a people do not exist in general ...
            1. Yoshkin Kot
              0
              23 February 2013 15: 46
              and what are such people ukrointsy? this is not the case who killed the mammoths all? harvesting fat?
    2. Skavron
      +2
      22 February 2013 13: 11
      So I say that they are not voting for the ideas of Freedom, against Yanukovych and his people.
      This is even sadder because if everything is clear with the ideological Svobodovites, then it’s a pity to those who simply joined them because of despair.
      How can one disagree with the Strugatsky’s aphorism: “Where dullness triumphs, black always comes to power.”
      Only not black, I would say, but brown ....
    3. Yoshkin Kot
      0
      22 February 2013 13: 53
      n-dya, the same apparently think that a terrible end is better than horror without end
  9. escapes
    -7
    22 February 2013 12: 41
    Yes, let them take power into their own hands))
    even though the new season will be in the series Independent Outskirts))
    Of course hoh-l-ikov sorry))
    but they were like that all the way)
    1. Mefodiy
      -3
      22 February 2013 13: 03
      Which way ???? After all, we are united by its impassability))))
    2. +2
      22 February 2013 13: 17
      Quote: fugas
      Yes, let them take power into their own hands))

      Only a completely illiterate person, far from life, can say that. After all, Russia in this case receives an enemy neighbor with all the ensuing consequences
      1. Yoshkin Kot
        -5
        22 February 2013 13: 53
        the enemy? and now, what ukroina friend?
      2. escapes
        +3
        22 February 2013 14: 02
        you see with humor that’s really a problem)))))
        But it will move our people to move, and such a maximum will stretch for half a year !!!
        and now, in nature, friends do not spill water, they spit in our faces more and more !!
        they themselves have been yelling all their lives that m-o-s-k-a-l-and are to blame for all your troubles !!! ripped you off and didn’t let you live in peace !!
        and do not say that this is not so, he was born and lived enough in Ukraine!
        and then you see, naminusovali)))))))))))
        1. biglow
          +1
          22 February 2013 18: 27
          escapes,
          everything goes on to what you are writing about. Some people here are a bit taut with humor unfortunately good
    3. +3
      22 February 2013 13: 37
      Yes, a "good wish" ... But what about the Crimeans in this situation, to whom I belong too ... Or was it finally completed in 1954? ..
      But Nikita, a corn-bearer, having transferred Crimea from the Russian Federation to Ukraine, for some reason forgot to return the deported Crimean Tatars to his homeland ... Although he returned all the other deported peoples - Kalmyks, Chechens, Ingush ...
      Now in the "settlement" dreams of eliminating the autonomy of Crimea ...
    4. uhjpysq1
      0
      23 February 2013 09: 33
      right, let the Germans in 33 rush with Hitler, so they will finish)))))))))))))))))))
  10. +5
    22 February 2013 13: 09
    It has long been rumored that oligarch Kolomoisky is funding nationalist "freedom". But apparently this source is not the only one, there is information about the receipt of large funds from the special services of the United States and Canada through foreign "Ukrainian" organizations and a number of Western European banks. And it is understandable why, if Yanukovych announces joining the Customs Union, someone will have to make a second "Orange" revolution, and so this force should be nationalist "freedom", because the union of Ukraine and Russia in any form, it is like death for the West. This became especially clear from the changed rhetoric of the West, when Yanukovych announced that joining the CU was inevitable. European Commissioner Fule immediately arrived in Ukraine, about which he and Yanukovych were not informed, but Yanukovych did not go to Moscow to sign the declaration on joining the Customs Union, as expected. It is also clear that the nationalists are the fifth column of aggressive imperialist forces, which they will set in motion at a decisive moment for them. Yanukovych, on the other hand, is in panic fear for his presidency, because he is a decent coward, and in these conditions he will not agree to an alliance with Russia, the anti-Russian rhetoric in the presidential entourage has also intensified in recent weeks, especially on the gas theme. What is surprising is the behavior of Russia, which has rich experience and excellent personnel of special services that could act using the methods of the West, that is, organizing and uniting with a single force disparate pro-Russian movements that could become a counterbalance to the generously funded nationalist movements.
  11. Algor73
    +3
    22 February 2013 13: 56
    You need to remember the past. But living with it is a path to nowhere. Each country has pages of history, both positive and negative. But "Svoboda" is gaining popularity not for the reason that it is supported by the western regions, where the memory of the OUN-UPA is honored, but for the reason that they promise at least something radical. Of course, they cannot be allowed to come to power, but they play the role of a scarecrow for the current government. The country is a complete mess, both political and in all other spheres. And most importantly, a cynical mess.
  12. WW3
    WW3
    +4
    22 February 2013 14: 39
    Yanukovych and the ruling Party of Regions are playing a much more complex and multi-way political combination, involving the use of Tyagnibok’s “blind” party
    .
    As if this creation did not destroy its creator. If the stars are lit, it means someone needs it ... If the situation in the country worsens, then the society is radicalizing, and the advent of freedom is quite logical, someone should have occupied this niche ...
    The “Freedom” obscurantism is fully capable of consolidating the incumbent’s voters on the eve of the 2015 election of the year.

    After cheating with Russian as the 2nd state language, will they believe him, although the political technologists of the authorities obviously went the way of imposing a script on the electorate - they choose the lesser of two evils and release such bright Russophobic characters as Farion on the screens ....
    1. biglow
      +2
      22 February 2013 16: 57
      WW3,
      and it will be so, the Nazis will devour Yanukovych and then their sponsors from and Israel. and then themselves. All revolutions are repeated according to one scenario
  13. - = ALEX = -
    -4
    22 February 2013 15: 17
    Freedom will become a significant political force in Ukraine, which is already gaining popularity, as they declare simple and fair things. All labels that are glued to them will soon have the opposite effect. People already understand and see that this is the only force whose soul hurts for Ukraine and which wants and is able to change the situation in the country. Their radical actions are the only and correct answer to the arbitrariness of a corrupt criminal-oligarchic government that has no homeland or nationality.
    We are at the beginning of the path towards the establishment in Ukraine of truly UKRAINIAN power (which has not existed in Ukraine for all the years of independence), and not immigrants from the communal criminal past who, thanks to a combination of circumstances and the lack of consciousness of the population brought up by decades of slaves, managed to seize vast property and power in the country . A new generation is growing that will lead Ukraine to a truly worthy place, old spiritually crippled people who do not remember their history, naturally new people will leave instead.




    1. biglow
      +1
      22 February 2013 16: 53
      ALEX = -] Freedom will become a significant political force in Ukraine, which is already gaining popularity, as they declare simple and fair things — hang all the Jews, her and the Communists, and then there will be a paradise for those who remain laughing
    2. +1
      22 February 2013 18: 29
      So much for the embroidered shirt with harem pants ... in all its glory ... And the Crimea, the Kuban, Stavropol ... and Voronezh .. they are not fat ...
    3. 0
      22 February 2013 22: 51
      Quote: - = ALEX = -
      Freedom will become a significant political force in Ukraine

      You can cloud your brain and unintelligent youth, but any sane person will immediately catch you, you are no good at anything except screaming slogans, waving black-red and blue-yellow rags, raging and hooligans in public places. If Ukraine had firm authority, half of you would already be in prison, because half of you are criminals, the rest would run away by themselves. You can’t be entrusted with any business, you will fail him, Ternopol, where your power is buried in garbage, here is the first example. I think people still figure out for themselves who you are and you will dry up by yourself.
    4. uhjpysq1
      +1
      23 February 2013 09: 27
      on the 3rd photo, look at some witch standing behind the children !!!! very symbolic))))))))))
  14. +2
    22 February 2013 15: 37
    ... ... But Tyagnibok and Kolomoisky are united by a common hostility towards Russia, and on this basis the latter has a similarity of interests with the most odious Russian "political emigrant" Boris Berezovsky. ...
    ... And in the future they met repeatedly (and continue to meet) on the territory of Israel, of which both are citizens. And after each such meeting in Ukraine, any events take place: either a political coup or serious troubles among large Russian companies ...

    Here is how? Nazis and Jewish crime capital unite?
  15. +5
    22 February 2013 15: 47
    "At my headquarters, I myself decide who is Jewish and who is not." Hermann Goering.
    "Svidomy UKRANETS" Tyagnibok argues in the same way. Everything is repeated.
    As for the ZU-no, in fact, there are now (after the yoke of Austria-Hungary and Poland) Ukrainians. And in ancient times there was a tribe of carps related to the Dacians in Galicia.
    Jin escaped from the bottle (caches), and it will not be easy to drive him back.
    PS I repeat, but Bandera destroyed during the Second World War, FIRST ORDER, Orthodox.
  16. Skavron
    0
    22 February 2013 17: 44
    Yoshkin Cat,
    Well, if UKRAINE is an enemy, then what are you listening to its representatives?
    Jihad is more familiar to you ...
    come on yoshkin cat ... go ahead ... dir Ukrainians ... or bench press bench press ... only brave on the forum?
    you scum generally ... and low-intellectual
    1. uhjpysq1
      +2
      23 February 2013 09: 19
      Well, how do you know how to cut Russian, we well know from history !!!
    2. Yoshkin Kot
      +1
      23 February 2013 18: 53
      Yeah, but what about the former Russians who killed themselves in Russianness? the very basis of the ideology of ukroinism is Russophobia
  17. +1
    22 February 2013 19: 20
    It's disgusting that such personalities as Bandera could be born in Russia! He is a national disgrace not only for Ukraine, but for the entire Russian people. So did Hitler. He has been gone for a long time, but his dirty deed is still rotten. And just do from nationalism to fascism one step. And Nazism is primarily destructive for the "higher people". It's time for our orange Bandera to understand this.