Do I need to declassify data on the real amount of mineral reserves in Russia?

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At the recent meeting of the commission on the development of the fuel and energy complex and environmental safety in the country, Vladimir Putin made it clear that the existing system of subsoil use had become obsolete. The President outlined a number of problems that had turned into a real parking brake for the development of the Russian energy security system.

One of these problems is that Russia is still keeping secret data relating to the volume of minerals contained in its depths. It would seem that if a country is positioning itself as one of the segments of the world economy, then it’s pointless to make a secret of the presence of certain mineral resources on a certain scale. In this regard, Vladimir Putin said that it is time to consider the question of ending the use of the neck “secretly” with respect to those energy resources and other mineral resources that Russian land is rich in.

On the one hand, it may seem that the head of state decided to take a dubious path, because declassified data on real reserves of natural wealth in Russia may cause a “mandraging” abroad, and increase the risks associated with the fact that someone will suddenly and even reach out to the Russian stocks of raw materials. But on the other hand, with the authorities and companies hiding the real figures of the volumes of the raw material base of Russia more and more often began to lead to frank speculations.

Our foreign "partners" who are guided either by their own very original estimates of reserves of certain minerals that have nothing to do with reality, or by Russian monitoring data from nineteen hundred "bearded" years, are increasingly claiming that Russia's energy potentials are about to come to absolute zero. It would seem, what's the problem? - Yes, let them say anything, we know that not one hundred years of intensive exploitation of the subsoil must pass before reaching the said absolute zero. But ... Such casuistry often leads to the fact that even with the active and productive management of leading Russian mining companies, the value of their shares remains clearly underestimated. Why? Because concealment of real energy assets and, in general, excessive modesty, associated with suppressing the fact of the presence of huge reserves of energy resources, clearly does not contribute to attracting investors - not only external, but also domestic - Russian. There are no investors — no investments, no investments — all that remains is to “skim the cream off” and ignore the concern for full-fledged development of deposits.

The president also emphasized the "cream removal" and the actual preservation of working wells (mines). It turns out that for many owners today it’s profitable to keep silent about the real reserves of raw materials that they own, so as not to voice what methods they are mining. It is the case when you know less, sleep better ... And the authorities and the public consciously introduce this raw material getters to sleep. Why should they reveal the secrets of the fact that today the overwhelming majority of deposits are being developed in less than 60-70%, and 70% is still at best. Sometimes it happens that in a certain area only 15-20 percent of the entire field is mastered, and everything else is filled up with soil so that company owners do not switch to extra costs for continuing production. Today, unfortunately, there are quite a few such “burial grounds” on the territory of our country.

If Russian companies at the legislative level are not allowed to voice those stocks of raw materials that are fully entrusted to them to develop the subsoil (which many, by the way, are more than satisfied with), then the Russian private investor has no choice but to be content with the information of foreign experts who argue extensively about how many more drops of oil and pieces of coal are left in Russia ... In the end, state budget revenues are falling.

In the foreign press (and in a certain Russian, by the way, too) more and more articles appear in which some analysts of the energy market wishful thinking, declaring that the Russian Federation will lose the palm for the extraction or export of one or another energy raw materials to the world market. These materials are not confirmed by any official information, and are presented only on the basis of conjectures, issued for objective reality. And after all, the majority of potential investors, whose finances could in a number of cases have a very positive effect on the pace of development of mining and production, believe these anti-utopian forecasts about the collapse of the Russian mining sector. And what remains for them to do if the Russian side itself does not try to present any objective refutations of the published materials. Probably, I would like to present it, but only stumbles upon the “secret” mentioned finger again. But is this a secret that should be kept as the apple of one's eye? If the calculation is made for the development of the mining industry and the cutting off of all idle conjectures about its decline, then, of course, it’s time to show the real Russian reserves to the world economy as a given.

Another question is, does the Russian side itself know what volumes of the same hydrocarbons are contained in the Russian subsoil? Judging by the speech on the commission of Vladimir Putin, for many companies this secret remains a secret due to the elementary outdated base for monitoring natural reserves. In other words, the secret is only because they themselves do not know ... Do not know, or simply do not want to be aware of.

When many foreign countries, such as, for example, the same Japan, in the reports on their own energy reserves, provide data on the stocks of so-called methane hydrates, which lie beneath the ocean floor at impressive depths, and about the expediency of which there have been heated debates for a dozen years, Russia, as they say, God himself commanded to show their reserves. Until we have switched to a similar accounting system for every barrel of oil and every thousand cubic meters of gas, it turns out that we are secret and even shy in some way: they say, even if we know how many of these energy resources we have, why should we boast of wealth? However, the wealth of the country can boast and even be necessary, more precisely, it does not even boast, but present it as a basis for further development. But to keep secret the availability of national wealth, but at the same time, it is quite open to buy property abroad, to keep “savings” in foreign banks, now precisely boasting with its infinite financial capabilities and retaining the right (“if anything”) to jerk beyond the cordon, to a warm place prepared in advance is another question.

It turns out that the declassification of data on real mineral resources in Russia is an objective necessity that has long been overdue. Ultimately, this will lead to transparency in the extractive industry and the development of competitiveness of Russian companies of different ownership forms.
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  1. Vanek
    +12
    15 February 2013 08: 50
    My granny said:

    - Where more than two, they say out loud.

    Not always. I agreed with my granny. Mystery, it is that and that secret.
    1. Yoshkin Kot
      -10
      15 February 2013 09: 19
      it's time to cancel stupid in the modern world to cast a shadow on the wattle fence
      1. +24
        15 February 2013 09: 40
        Quote: Yoshkin Cat
        silly in the modern world to cast a shadow on the wattle fence


        This is how someone. The United States, for example, holds significant reserves of oil and gas canned, and hide their size
        1. Kaa
          +8
          15 February 2013 10: 22
          Quote: Vadivak
          The United States, for example, holds significant reserves of oil and gas canned, and hide their size

          And let's turn to history - the "State Planning Commission" case, or the "Voznesensky" case.
          "A note on the loss of secret documents in the USSR State Planning Committee of August 22, 1949 contains a long list of missing documents. Among the documents lost in 1944 -49 are:
          The state plan for the restoration and development of the national economy for 1945 On the calculations of oil transportation for 1945,. The document cites data on the throughput capacity of oil pipelines and on the volume of traffic by rail, sea and river transport. A promising plan for the restoration of the national economy in the liberated regions of the USSRNo. 1521,
          On the five-year technical plan for 1946-1950, On the organization of the production of radar stations, Note on the plan for the restoration of railway transport in 1946-1950, on the purchase of equipment not supplied by the Americans in cash for the USA, Letter and draft order on the organization of production of shells 152 mm
          Conclusion on the proposals of the production departments of the State Planning Commission on increasing the limit of capital work and the volume of construction and installation works for 1947, a note on the state of dismantling, removal and use of equipment and materials from German and Japanese enterprises, Certificate of deficits for the most important material balances, including: non-ferrous metals, aviation gasoline and oils,
          In 1944, the head of the 3rd branch of the secret department, Beschastnov, with a group of employees, drew up an act on the destruction of a large number of documents, while 33 documents listed as destroyed were retained and uncontrollably stored until the end of 1946. Among these documents were: plan for the restoration and development of the national economy of the USSR for 1946-1950; five-year plan for the restoration and development of railway transport for 1946-1950; materials on the balance and distribution of electricity, solid and liquid fuels, ferrous and non-ferrous metals in the II quarter. 1946, data on the accumulation of oil products in the state reserve and others. Voznesensky Nikolai Alekseevich, who headed until March 5, 1949. Gosplan of the USSR. in March1949, removed from the Politburo. In 1950, sentenced to death. Shot. http://www.proriv.ru/articles.shtml/petrova?leningradskoe_delo
          This is how they treated the storage of data on strategic reserves under Stalin ...
          1. Goga
            +4
            15 February 2013 10: 43
            Kaa - Greetings, Colleague, I just remembered that a lot of useful things were done with IS, the current ones cannot master this. And as for the reserves, the thought casually expressed by the Author is most likely true - and we ourselves do not really know. And how to know that? The most powerful state system of geological exploration (from space to a pickaxe with a shovel) was safely destroyed, and "effective" private owners of global, nationwide, exploration will not be engaged - it's expensive, so we use - quote - "... data from Russian monitoring of one thousand nine hundred" bearded "Years," and what else to use? Who and when recently invested heavily in geological exploration? Oilmen, of course, are engaged in geology, but this is at their "local" level. So we will "declassify" what was discovered more than twenty years ago - who is interested ...
          2. wax
            0
            15 February 2013 13: 31
            Dear Kaa, what you mentioned relates to planning and balance, respectively, but not to information on proven reserves. True, declassifying them would be the same shooting. The situation has changed significantly, then we were a socialist country, and now a capitalist country, involved in global relations. Naturally, a number of reserves positions should be declassified, but this is unlikely to affect all mineral resources.
        2. +4
          15 February 2013 10: 30
          Quote: Vadivak
          This is how someone. The United States, for example, holds significant reserves of oil and gas canned, and hide their size

          IMHO, we are hiding because we have a lot, and amers, because they no longer have nichrome, and the real picture will cause an avalanche-like increase in energy prices.
        3. homeland
          +4
          15 February 2013 13: 24
          And the very concept of oil reserves is extensible, with refinement surveys it changes in plus or minus. Nobody knows exactly what is going on underground. It happens that geophysicists pass, according to the results they give one thing, in fact when drilling exploration it turns out quite another. Sometimes geophysicists and exploratory drilling give a good forecast, and when production drilling begins, this is how one water is extracted from the well.
          And the fact that they supposedly will soon run out will be enough for children, and even for grandchildren. By then, new sources will be popular.
          When the oil fields are crushed by the existing fields, they still finally decide to move to Eastern Siberia and Yakutia, where the reserves are also good.
          1. Nechai
            0
            15 February 2013 21: 45
            Quote: vatan
            Nobody knows exactly what is going on underground.

            That's for sure. The first wells, in seemingly depleted formations, are in a suspended state. They are periodically opened, samples are taken. A couple of years ago, everyone was amazed - OIL WENT FROM a long time ago "empty" reservoir! And bright! What was never born in the Volga region!
            Yes, and on the Kola superdeep they raised some kind of mineral, with very fantastic, turning over the postulates that are now established in science! And then work stopped. The complex, of course, and the tool itself was subjected to plunder ...
        4. psdf
          +1
          15 February 2013 18: 21
          About the remaining fossils they say even less.
          As for rare earths, it seems that they are even diligently trying to forget that they can get something on their territory.
        5. 0
          15 February 2013 22: 23
          Quote: Vadivak
          This is how someone. The United States, for example, holds significant reserves of oil and gas canned, and hide their size

          Do not hide! This information is published on the stock exchange every week. But the fact that Americans know how to correctly handle information is yes. By creating a soap bubble from shale gas, they have already put the whole world on the ears, but in fact the pyramid is cooler than MMM !!!
          1. 0
            16 February 2013 16: 40
            Quote: APASUS
            Do not hide! This information is published on the exchange every week.

            you confuse. publish the stocks that are stored in their tanks. and not those in the bowels. They may not conceal about reserves in the bowels, but they publish, I think, no more than once a year.
            1. 0
              16 February 2013 20: 04
              Quote: bot.su
              you confuse. publish the stocks that are stored in their tanks. and not those in the bowels. They may not conceal about reserves in the bowels, but they publish, I think, no more than once a year.

              Contact, I think you will be sent this information. The truth will be asked why .........
              National Geographic Society
              Attn: Marketing Services - Privacy
              1145 17th Street NW
              Washington, DC 20036-4688
              1. 0
                17 February 2013 01: 56
                Quote: APASUS
                Contact, I think you will be sent this information.

                Judging by the name, this is a private shop, not a government agency. And the data collected by private experts and government data on stocks is not the same at all!
      2. +2
        15 February 2013 13: 36
        Quote: Yoshkin Cat
        it's time to cancel stupid in the modern world to cast a shadow on the wattle fence


        "..it is not true that there are two troubles in Russia - fools and roads ... In Russia, one trouble is idiots .." (c)
      3. +4
        15 February 2013 17: 18
        Quote: Yoshkin Cat
        it's time to cancel stupid in the modern world to cast a shadow on the wattle fence


        This is more suitable for Israel regarding the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty. Really stupid. And for hydrocarbon reserves here, at least declassify, at least not, anyway, the estimates will be approximate. The same OPEC countries constantly monitor reserves, agree on the quantity of supplies, quality and availability of proven and existing deposits.
        Rђ RІRѕS, strategic reserves in terminals, their volume should of course be kept secret. But after all, we are not talking about them, as I understand it?
    2. +2
      15 February 2013 10: 24
      I’ll just say ... you know less, sleep better ....
      1. Vanek
        +2
        15 February 2013 10: 26
        Quote: sasha 19871987
        the less you know the better you sleep....


        But you can’t argue.
      2. Hon
        0
        15 February 2013 23: 04

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        Watch to the end, a song about Russia.
    3. SPIRITofFREEDOM
      +2
      15 February 2013 11: 48
      As soon as the STRONGEST ARMY appears, you can also share secrets so that you want to beat off any Wishlist soldier
      1. 755962
        0
        15 February 2013 12: 32
        it’s time to consider stopping the use of the heading “secretly” in relation to those energy resources and other minerals that are rich in Russian land.

        I can imagine what kind of salivation will go to the "partners" when their eyes are opened to the "KLADOVka" of Russia ... So after all, darlings will choke on their own saliva, or burst out of anger.
    4. +1
      15 February 2013 22: 36
      But why should everyone know what we have and where? If nobody needs it and it’s out of date, then it’s okay if it’s a secret. Well, if everyone wants to know this ... hmm .. let it be our secret .. we’ll be healthier .. there’s nothing to poke our nose into. hi
  2. +4
    15 February 2013 09: 30
    Thanks for the article ... but still, Putin’s logic is somewhat intricate and incomprehensible ... Maybe we don’t know something?
    1. +3
      15 February 2013 09: 39
      We know exactly as much as we should know.
    2. +3
      15 February 2013 09: 59
      Quote: rennim
      but Putin’s logic is somehow intricate and incomprehensible.

      This is not logic, but the lure of foreign capital, we have just how many, well-known foreigners, are they not joining the WTO?
      1. +1
        15 February 2013 10: 20
        Quote: Vadivak
        This is not logic, but the lure of foreign capital, we have just how many, well-known foreigners, are they not joining the WTO?

        This is most likely the desire to sell everything and everything, only the authorities hold out longer. Everything that we have, no one knows, not even the state.
        1. -1
          16 February 2013 01: 24
          baltika-18,
          I think the logic is simple foreigners will not bomb the factories they invested in, they will try to change their political course

          where did you get the idea that Western intelligence agencies do not know about reserves, before the sale of each field, reserves for several layers are announced, after the collapse of the USSR, they got into their hands maps of possible reserves for each oil and gas basin

          here is an example
          http://24warez.ru/uploads/posts/1299511873_1.jpg

          here is a research institute in western Siberia
          http://www.zsniigg.ru/index.php?option=com_aboutcompany&activity=3
    3. 0
      15 February 2013 13: 34
      Logic suggests that on that vast territory there can be as little oil as we are told - at least three times more.
    4. wax
      0
      15 February 2013 13: 35
      The Americans know in a number of ways stocks are no worse than us. What is the point of continuing: I know that you know, but still I will not say. So it’s really worse for yourself, because the geopolitical and military adversary knows, but the business doesn’t.
      1. 0
        15 February 2013 13: 48
        Quote: Wax
        Americans know in a number of ways stocks are no worse than us

        Where from?
        1. +1
          15 February 2013 20: 46
          Quote: bot.su
          Where from?

          Do you know how many joint ventures with the Americans were created in the early 90s and what these joint “partners” were doing? If the head of the KGB Bakatin did not hesitate to issue a wiretapping scheme for the American embassy, ​​then what to say about geological exploration data, which, in my opinion, is simple were they sold by weight at 10 bucks per centner? And in the USSR, geological exploration was at the proper level, along the BAM, how much was explored, but not developed. And the deposits of their places did not change, where nature laid, they lie there. So in my opinion, everything These secrets have long been a secret of the policy. We can only talk about those explored in the last decade, but I don’t remember something like that. And where it was discovered, foreign "partners" were officially invited there, for example Shtokman, Sakhalin, etc.
          1. 0
            16 February 2013 08: 46
            Well, if 10 bucks a centner, then there is so much waste paper that she still needs to be able to use it. And in general, a strange logic, if Bakatin passed the wiretap, now instead of the mosaic, what do the bourgeoisie have to hand over the whole picture?

            Now, the data on oil reserves have almost no strategic significance. If war is tomorrow, then we will have enough oil, this is clear even without open data. Information has commercial value. So surrendering it completely, as you suggest, is as stupid (but rather betrayal) as Bakatin’s act.
    5. Hon
      0
      15 February 2013 23: 16
      http://smotri.com/video/view/?id=v22857272e79

      Song about Russia, watch to the end!
  3. andrey903
    -1
    15 February 2013 09: 42
    If you declare real oil and gas reserves, then they will fall in price, the same with gold
    1. wax
      +1
      15 February 2013 13: 36
      A product is cheaper if it is offered on the market, and the deposits themselves are becoming more expensive.
  4. melkie
    +1
    15 February 2013 09: 52
    There is a double feeling, I’d like to brag about and keep a secret.
  5. +2
    15 February 2013 09: 53
    absolutely disagree with the conclusions of the article.
    It turns out that declassification of data on real volumes
    minerals in Russia is an objective necessity

    why suddenly?
    1. +3
      15 February 2013 10: 00
      Quote: Middle Brother
      why suddenly?


      Sell, money is needed
      1. djon3volta
        0
        15 February 2013 12: 01
        Quote: Vadivak
        Sell, money is needed

        to whom? Actually, half of the country feeds on this money, all state employees and pensioners. and not only shareholders.
        1. +1
          15 February 2013 12: 20
          Quote: djon3volta
          to whom? Actually, half of the country feeds with this money,

          The country’s sex sees the crumbs with this money, but a small part feeds
  6. +6
    15 February 2013 10: 01
    Well, I don’t know, in my understanding, this is, firstly, not a paramount issue, and secondly, why shout to everyone that I won a million ???
    Deal with stocks of course. And with how the extraction is carried out, and even more so on a mandatory basis, or even the truth, the extraction is being barbarously conducted, but in principle it is not worth expecting anything else from the "businessmen".
    But why should I notify everything at the same time, it is not entirely clear to me, although we do not see the fullness of the picture.
    1. 0
      15 February 2013 11: 40
      Quote: AKOL
      But why should I notify everything at the same time?

      And there is no need to set! who cares what stocks Russia has? If this were necessary for the development of STATE enterprises, one would still think, it would be possible to open the curtain a little bit, and so ... What did the oligarchs run out of money to develop and modernize their own enterprises? Do you need to attract foreign capital? Not even figs and foreign capitalists to climb into Russia! Facilitate your planning to the West, taking into account new data on the Russian Federation? What for? Let there yourself plan at a loss. When it will be necessary, then Russia will show ...... mother!
  7. +1
    15 February 2013 10: 09
    thanks to the author for the article, I believe that some figure needs to be voiced, a figure that inspires confidence that there is still a lot to eat and at the same time this figure should be underestimated from the real one, as every fireman says
  8. +1
    15 February 2013 10: 12
    True reserves must be kept secret so that envy does not blind our neighbors from rash decisions towards us. Accessible to the general public can only be metered data, which will not contradict the data received by our competitors both from space and by intelligence.
  9. +5
    15 February 2013 10: 14
    I believe that declassification of data on the real volumes of mineral reserves in Russia will lead to an unprecedented a jump in Russia's assets in the world's stock markets.
    1. Frigate
      +1
      15 February 2013 17: 33
      Quote: Apollon
      I believe that declassification of data on the real volumes of mineral reserves in Russia will lead to an unprecedented jump in Russia's assets in the stock markets of the world.

      Dear, serious people work there and know where to declassify, where not
  10. Natalia
    +3
    15 February 2013 10: 14
    You need to be modest somewhere in a public toilet in order to quietly enter and even more quietly leave ..... Silence of the fact about the amount of stock is, of course, an occasion for all BP to say that Russia will soon end. Thus creating a stir around the slate.
    And so it’s possible to get rid of arrogance from Western energy companies, and in order not to bring down energy prices, you can simply reduce production.
    1. +3
      15 February 2013 10: 51
      Quote: Natalia
      Silence of the fact about the volume of stocks is, of course, an occasion for all BP to say that Russia will soon end.


      In Russia? Write to Gazprom, Lukoil, TNK
  11. +1
    15 February 2013 10: 15
    And who cares what I have in my wallet, this knowledge like a trump ace in my sleeve can be blown off so everyone gets caught. I liked the info on carbohydrate reserves in China, all the squeals about Chinese dependence on world importers are greatly exaggerated.
    1. 0
      15 February 2013 10: 44
      your neighbors and residents of other streets do not depend on your wallet
      1. +1
        15 February 2013 12: 01
        Quote: Slevinst
        your neighbors and residents of other streets do not depend on your wallet

        And our neighbors, then, depend on ours? Did they invest in it? Information costs money, so if state secrets are canceled, commercial secrets will come into play. In general, they want to know, let them pay.
  12. 0
    15 February 2013 10: 16
    Yes he is a brake
  13. +2
    15 February 2013 10: 19
    according to the law on state secrets (signed by Yeltsin) - everything that is in the bowels is a state secret and there is a time limit for its disclosure. By the way, in the "Moment of Truth" it was once said that maps of deposits and their assessment have disappeared from the office of the chief FSB :) :) I don't know if it's true or not. :) :):
    -------
    the true reserves of the bowels are fresh water and forest. you can still live without everything else :) :)
  14. anchonsha
    +1
    15 February 2013 10: 23
    Plus article. But you have to think with your head now, and not do the furtive thing in the old fashion .. Well, who will invest in you if he does not know what you have and how to dispose of it. In addition, our companies do everything so secretly from the people that we sometimes don’t know how we breathe, what can wait for us. And the secrets are completely different: these are mining technologies, the latest achievements in industries, etc.
    1. Cheloveck
      0
      15 February 2013 18: 45
      Quote: anchonsha
      Well, who will invest in you if he does not know what you have and how you can dispose of it.
      One question: what about @@ me?
      Russia has its own money wagon with a trolley.
      However, the authorities are doing everything to sell any liquidity to the side.
      From the fact that foreigners will come to ordinary people it is not warm, but rather cold.

      In general, an unsightly picture looms. We sell what remains, and then we lose independence.
  15. 0
    15 February 2013 11: 03
    The competent moves of the sovereign people will still be able to attract investors, but I doubt that literate people in reality would meticulously indicate what and how much ...
    The topic will be summed up to a supposedly real desire to "show off", but how much and what there really is, all one will be kept secret ...
  16. +2
    15 February 2013 11: 26
    What a secret! We would be glad to say how much, but ktozh these resources then considered?
    1. 0
      15 February 2013 13: 14
      Who should have been considered for a long time already. There are specially trained people who know everything to the last barrels.
  17. +4
    15 February 2013 11: 54
    We must say a little understated. To raise funds, it is only necessary not to give controlling packages.
    1. +2
      15 February 2013 12: 21
      Quote: Kuryanin
      To raise funds, it is only necessary not to give controlling packages.

      Wisely +.
    2. +1
      15 February 2013 13: 13
      Having underestimated the interest by 30-40, it will be easier to prepare for war when the democratizers begin to break up for us for oil :)
  18. Oren
    0
    15 February 2013 13: 48
    There are many works on why investors will never invest in the Russian economy. If MedvePut had read them, then the question of declassifying data on the reserves of Russian mineral resources would never have arisen. The bottom line is that the production cost of 1 kg of a product in Russia is several times more expensive than the production of the same product in a country with a WARM climate (China, Japan, and other countries). ALL foreign investors are aware of this, therefore, production is transferred not to Russia, but to Malaysia, China, etc. We are mainly receiving speculative capital, which does more harm than good to the Russian economy. And no accession to the WTO, and other crap will not help us. Remember the dashing 90s. Why, when there were free labor, cheap resources, and so many other privileges to attract huge investments, practically no large foreign company invested in Russia? And just do not need arguments, they say Russia was communist, and so on. labuden. Investors didn't give a damn about all these questions when they came to China.
    1. 0
      15 February 2013 14: 26
      Quote: Oren
      the cost of production in Russia 1 kg of product is many times more expensive than the production of the same product in a country with a warm climate (China, Japan, and other countries). ALL foreign investors know about this, and therefore production is transferred not to Russia, but to Malaysia, China, etc.

      In general, that’s all right, but we are talking about investments in the extraction of natural resources. It is impossible to transfer oil production in Western Siberia to Malaysia laughing
      So medveput medveputom, but it would not be bad to read first and understand article, and then comment.
      By the way, it’s not easy to understand it ... When one layman quotes the speeches of another layman who cannot understand in any way the point of view of which expert to accept, it turns out ... That you won’t make out without a pint! what
      1. Oren
        0
        15 February 2013 14: 47
        I wrote this all to the fact that there is no point in declassifying the data on reserves, since this does not attract investors, as the government expects, and it can also play a negative role.
      2. Oren
        0
        15 February 2013 14: 52
        nerd.su,
        In general, that’s all right, but we are talking about investments in the extraction of natural resources. It is impossible to transfer oil production in Western Siberia to Malaysia.



        Over the years, BP has invested a lot in production? We only know about pumping out dough, and constant squabbles between shareholders. More foreigners do not need anything from us. Do not build illusions guys. Foreigners will not invest in Russia !!!
        1. +1
          15 February 2013 19: 39
          Yes, you are a pessimist or do not share with you ...
          But in principle, I agree with you in the sense that the Soviet Union itself mined everything and it would not hurt us to drill the wells themselves instead of the stabilization fund.
  19. +1
    15 February 2013 13: 52
    International companies operate in Russia, an international audit is carried out. So, a secrecy regime seems to be unnecessary. But, data on the volume of reserves in the subsoil, production, production and consumption of strategic minerals, as well as data on the reserves of platinum, platinum group metals, natural diamonds closed. It would not hurt to give out some information in a dosed manner - it all depends on whether Russia is selling the product or consuming, whether investments are needed, etc. Cunning (as the United States and Co. do) is possible and necessary. All the same, the truth and the truth not the same thing.
  20. sxn278619
    0
    15 February 2013 13: 58
    A Chinese worker receives an average of $ 2. per day ($ 60 a month). Why should an investor go to Russia where they demand $ 1000 per month. Previously, there were only those who wanted to sell in Russia bypassing import duties, but now no one will come (WTO).
  21. Alikovo
    0
    15 February 2013 15: 51
    why should other countries know how much oil, gas, coal we have.
  22. Bogeyman
    +2
    15 February 2013 17: 21
    The approximate amount of mineral reserves was unambiguously and clearly stated at the time by the so-called devil, like the property of the Universe in Siberia, well, you comrades, you yourself know
  23. psdf
    0
    15 February 2013 18: 17
    When going out, you do not draw posters on your chest and back about your finances - where what and how much, including your wallet, and bank accounts. Countries do the same thing. What is characteristic is practically everything.
    Property protection includes, including informational. Nefig to the whole world to blow what, where and how much lies on your land. The countries of the Middle East are feeling this fully now.
  24. 0
    15 February 2013 18: 23
    I don’t know what the secret is straightforward) it’s more likely to be a commercial secret and it’s quite possible to find out) everything was taken into account at least by the State Reserves Committee by the State Commission for Reserves and it’s stated there, for example, I wrote a diploma to a former colleague, he threw me the necessary info on the deposit and no secrets) do not suffer from paranoia guys who need to know everything for a long time and there is nothing particularly new or large for a long time the USSR still scouted
    1. 0
      15 February 2013 20: 23
      Quote: jagdpanzer
      For example, I wrote a diploma, I called a former colleague, he threw me the necessary info on the deposit and no secrets) do not suffer from paranoia guys

      You still write to the prosecutor about this, indicating the name and place of residence of the colleague. Yes Old, that he threw it to you. You find out what was secret there or not wink
  25. kukuruzo
    0
    15 February 2013 18: 45
    yeah ... what else ... maybe we’ll tell you where the mines with missiles are ... or military enterprises ... today they are friends, and tomorrow they will be standing at the gates with tanks ... Everyone has betrayed Russia ... history lessons tell that such friendship is punishable
    1. 0
      15 February 2013 20: 57
      Quote: kukuruzo
      We’ll also tell you where the mines with missiles are located ... or military enterprises.

      Yes, there is no need to tell about all the START treaties, the coordinates of all mines, both ours and the American ones, have long been indicated, and our sworn friends have been monitoring products for a long time at enterprises that produce missile technology. In any case, in the 90s at the Strela Production Association or the Orenburg Machine-Building Plant , which issued the RSD, the Americans appeared once a month.
  26. Fire
    0
    15 February 2013 20: 33
    They are already talking about these very reserves, China is drooling and thinking about something to fuck in the foreseeable future ..
  27. Nechai
    +2
    15 February 2013 22: 08
    They are not only trying to forget about the rare earths, but they are selling the available reserves of the State Reserve. How did this happen with NS gallium. At least half of the strategic reserves of 90 tons stored in the Astrophysical Neutrino Laboratory of the Russian Academy of Sciences in Karachay-Cherkessia were sold in the United States. A bit later, the amers made a breakthrough in the aircraft engine industry ... Gallium is an excellent lubricant.
    On the basis of gallium and nickel, gallium and scandium, very important practical adhesives are created. Gallium oxide is part of a number of strategically important laser materials of the garnet group — GHA, YAG, ISGG, etc. Gallium arsenide GaAs is a promising material for semiconductor electronics. Gallium nitride is used in the creation of semiconductor lasers and LEDs in the blue and ultraviolet range. Gallium nitride has excellent chemical and mechanical properties typical of all nitride compounds.
    The gallium-71 isotope is the most important material for detecting neutrinos, and in connection with this, the technique faces a very urgent task of isolating this isotope from a natural mixture in order to increase the sensitivity of neutrino detectors. Since the content of 71Ga in the natural mixture of isotopes is about 39,9%, the isolation of the pure isotope and its use as a neutrino detector can increase the detection sensitivity by 2,5 times.
    But Gallium is dear, in 2005, a ton of gallium on the world market cost US $ 1,2 million, which decided the fate of our ancestors accumulated by previous generations. Due to the great demand for this metal, it is very important to establish its complete extraction during the aluminum production and processing of coal for liquid fuel.
    In the photo - melting point + 29,8C.
  28. 0
    15 February 2013 23: 29
    Quote: bot.su
    You still write to the prosecutor about this, indicating the name and place of residence of the colleague. Yes Old, that he threw it to you. You find out what was secret there or not
    I don’t care, you believe me. No, it's not a secret! maximum trade secret!
    1. 0
      16 February 2013 08: 25
      Quote: jagdpanzer
      I don’t care, you believe me. No, it's not a secret! maximum trade secret!

      Yes, I see that you do not care. About that and the speech that you know that you will not be anything. But your colleague may have problems. You don’t care, and you’re talkative boy ... smile
  29. 0
    16 February 2013 11: 06
    In a few years, fresh clean water will be the most valuable resource. The global food problem is also brewing. Especially environmentally friendly products. The global classification of the quality of organic and industrial products will be recognized as it is now in Sev. America. The price will be accordingly different. Russia has every trump card to dominate this sector. Also, Russia needs a very powerful armed forces to protect these wealth. There will be a lot of people willing to take away!
  30. 0
    16 February 2013 21: 19
    The authorities are once again showing their impotence ... It turns out that DECLARATION of data is needed not for external "investors", but for the power itself! Ie the power DOESN'T KNOW how many things there are in the country! They drove into the road. Or am I wrong? We read the article - "... the raw material miners deliberately mislead both the authorities and the public ..." So what? Instead of establishing ELEMENTARY order in the country, they did not come up with anything more sensible to declassify EVERYTHING ... Another quiet and not noticeable blow "to the kidneys" of the country and people. It's just a nightmare ... Well, you do not know how to manage YOURSELF, so hire EXPLANATORY and NOT SELLABLE RUSSIAN PEOPLE and let them solve issues. So no! How can I be such an "effective manager" I will bow to some Soviet-trained pensioner ... Better not let the country bend, but this will not happen ... Freaks by God ...

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