The head of the IOC said that Russian athletes who use the Z symbol could be “punished”

Russian athletes who use Z symbols or otherwise express their political position may be “punished”, up to and including immediate removal from the Games. This was stated by the head of the International Olympic Committee, Thomas Bach.

According to the sports official, if such actions by Russian athletes are detected, the committee will immediately initiate disciplinary proceedings. Its result could be sanctions against representatives of Russian sports, including their exclusion from the Games.

Thus, the Western-controlled IOC is trying to discriminate against athletes from Russia for political reasons. Although sport should supposedly be “outside politics,” the West is purposefully and deliberately “politicizing” it, preventing Russian athletes from fully and fully participating in various international sporting events.

By trying to isolate Russia from international sports, the “collective West” may ultimately achieve the opposite effect. Such actions are likely to worsen the split in the modern world, including sports.

There are already a sufficient number of countries that do not want to be puppets of the United States and its satellites in all spheres of activity. In the future, we cannot exclude such a development as these countries creating their own infrastructure for holding sports competitions, and the teams of Western countries will be able to compete only among themselves.

Comments

[rocket757]

Complete darkness... do we need it?
It is useless to ask about athletes, their personal choice, they will have to answer for their actions/decisions, either there or here... but officials, from us, have absolutely nothing to do there.

[Lev_Russia]

And we remember we once awarded Bach an order... We played friendship with him... There is no need to throw away state awards and titles, awarding them to all sorts of rascals... As a result, they quickly depreciate in value...

[2 Level Advisor]

Quote: Lev_Russia

There is no need to throw away state awards and titles, awarding them to all sorts of rascals... As a result, they quickly depreciate in value...

How vitally you wrote... and not only about Bach...

[AllX_VahhaB]

Quote: Lev_Russia

There is no need to throw away state awards and titles, awarding them to all sorts of rascals... As a result, they quickly depreciate in value...

Nazarov is still a “people’s” and no one is in a hurry to deprive him of this title. He still receives 60 thousand a month for this. Of course, it’s not that much money, but would it be better to use it for drones or give it to orphans?

[spektr9]

Nazarov is still a “people’s” and no one is in a hurry to deprive him of this title. He still receives 60 thousand a month for this.

So, in our country, the more a person loves Russophobe and the West, the more benefits and pensions the state gives him

[Fitter65]

Quote from: AllX_VahhaB

Nazarov is still a “people’s” and no one is in a hurry to deprive him of this title. He still receives 60 thousand a month for this. Of course, it’s not that much money, but would it be better to use it for drones or give it to orphans?

Quote: spektr9

So, in our country, the more a person loves Russophobe and the West, the more benefits and pensions the state gives him

And at the same time, these “liberal patriots” reproach us for 1936... The country simply got rid of the feed that had passed through the pig’s digestive tract. And now, wherever you look in Europe, there are at least two or three “Russian governments in exile”. It’s strange that Maximka Alkin and Makarevich in Israel didn’t come up with anything. other than trying to shit on Russia without taking off your pants...

[Al manah]

It's certainly not that much money

Indeed, for me this is only two months of work. Ugh and grind.

[AllX_VahhaB]

Quote: Al Manah

Indeed, for me this is only two months of work. Ugh and grind.

Are you earning 30k a month? Seriously? Where do you work and who do you work for, if it’s not a secret? It’s just that I have a K&B in the residential complex, so they require salespeople for the hall for 66k per month. And across the road there is a hypermarket, there are cleaning ladies for 45k... This is Ekb...
At the same time, I can give you the contact information for working on a rotational basis, from 100k for a driver to 160k for a welder. This is regarding blue-collar professions... Engineering and technology is a separate topic...
Have you actually tried to work in your life?

[Al manah]

It’s no secret: as a rescue sailor in Evpatoria, in a sanatorium. This salary will be paid from June, now it is the minimum wage.

It’s just that I have a K&B in the residential complex, so they require salespeople for the hall for 66k per month.

I doubt that a grandfather of my age is needed there; I have never seen such a miracle either at the cash register or behind the counter.

This is Ekb...

And this is Crimea.

Have you actually tried to work in your life?

Oh my God, I’ve been kicking ass all my life - that’s why I’ve been receiving a pension since I was 42 years old.

[AllX_VahhaB]

Sorry! I didn’t mean to offend you, I apologize if it looked rude, it’s a pension "other". Well, you were unlucky that you lived and retired in SUCH an independent state! I can only sympathize!
Don't worry...

[AllX_VahhaB]

Quote: Al Manah

It’s no secret: as a rescue sailor in Evpatoria, in a sanatorium.

Quote: Al Manah

I doubt that a grandfather of my age is needed there; I have never seen such a miracle.

That is, age does not allow you to sell alcohol to tourists, but rescuing drunks from the sea, so wow - there is gunpowder in the flasks and berries in the buttocks?

[Al manah]

That is, your age does not allow you to sell alcohol to tourists.

If you are in our area, find such an old fellow and please tell me the name of the establishment where he works, it will be very informative for me.

But saving drunken people from the sea, so what’s more - there is gunpowder in the flasks and berries in the buttocks? wassat

Мы flooded We are not allowed on our beach.

[KZAKVO32923]

Well, there’s probably no need to be poor! How much does Hasbara pay you?

[Al manah]

Exactly the same price as you - the SBU, they have agreed upon prices.

[KZAKVO32923]

And why is the SBU here, like the Ukrainians are also drowning for Zionofascist scum? I hope the final destination of all your Zionist riffraff will be The Hague.

[Al manah]

Yes, spring is in full swing, but they write that it should get easier in the summer.

[KZAKVO32923]

Well, well, for some it may not come! I wish Hamas to kill all the fascist evil spirits! However, judging by the face of your big-eared Fuhrer, he does not show much joy at the prospects of The Hague, so we’ll see! At a minimum, the whole world has taken the scales (in the West) from their eyes and seen your real fascist, misanthropic essence. And in the states where “Koshchei’s needle” is located, especially young people simply hate the Zionists, what will happen in 10-15 years, when these students, who have experienced the pressure and oppression of the Zionist lobby firsthand, find themselves at the helm of power? For some reason I think so, this does not shine anything good for the fascist riffraff, and the cancerous tumor in the Middle East will be removed one way or another, no matter what way. It depends on your brethren how painful it is.

[KZAKVO32923]

By the way, regarding the spring exacerbation, your brother has a whole bunch of rare genetic diseases, thanks to your principle of not allowing money to leave home and marry relatives! I won’t list them, you know better than me! So, crazy people and crazy people, this is for you, Zionists!

[Al manah]

Don’t take it so personally, there is nothing shameful about mental disorder, in the end it can be treated.

[KZAKVO32923]

Thanks for the good advice! But I wouldn’t want to soil myself by communicating with a fascist. Cannibals and child killers have no place among normal people. You need to go to a leper colony or to Mars, unless, of course, you drive the Martians into concentration camps there too! I somehow feel sorry for the Martians too!

[Al manah]

Even if you are surrounded by enemies now, then everything will be fine, for sure.

[KZAKVO32923]

no need to act stupid! This applies to you with related marriages! That's why you have the most schizophrenics and psychos!

[Remchik]

Is the title “people’s” given for art or for politics?

[rocket757]

Obvious and very unpleasant.
We are not vindictive! The memory is good, and not only everyone should not make us angry!

[NIKN]

Quote: rocket757

We are not vindictive! Memory is good

The head of the IOC said that Russian athletes who use the Z symbol could be “punished”

How was he going to punish? Everything passes and this will pass, but this Bach deserved anal punishment a long time ago... although this is now held in high esteem by them, as a reward comes.

[rocket757]

The question is who, whose now are those athletes who went precisely at their own request...
The country, society, seriously, has decided and expressed itself that we don’t need this!!!
It’s time to build a new one, and this is clear to many, but no one will take those who are on their own into the new one... they chose, even if they continue to do so on their own.

[kapitan92]

Quote: rocket757

It is useless to ask about athletes, their personal choice, they will have to answer for their actions/decisions, either there or here...

It's not their personal choice. They represent the Russian National Team. The Kremlin is silent, the deputies are silent, the “Senate” is silent, so who makes the decision on the participation of our team? Sports committee bureaucrats? Who?
I think that the participation of our guys in the Games, without a flag, anthem, uniform, coat of arms, is a powerful blow to the reputation of Russia. It's my opinion. Perhaps the “sand and matvienki” have a different opinion.

[rocket757]

It's useless to argue, everyone has already decided everything...
Let's look at the consequences.

[K9_SWAT]

Are they really ours, these “guys”? In my opinion they are complete scum!

[Huarabey]

Yes, do with them what you want. It will no longer be Russian athletes if they go there. If they don’t care about how they are mocked, then let the IOC not deny itself anything by bending them even lower.

[AllX_VahhaB]

Quote: Warabey

Yes, do with them what you want. It will no longer be Russian athletes if they go there. If they don’t care about how they are mocked, then let the IOC not deny itself anything by bending them even lower.

They are not mocking them, but the Country! It used to be that athletes represented Their Country with all that it entails... But now the Olympic movement has degenerated into a politically biased “just business”! Money and the agenda are at the forefront! Coubertin's legacy is dead! Or rather, it has degenerated into a monstrous, unprincipled, ugly phenomenon. Like everything that Capital has a hand in!
I am a supporter of radical measures - to leave the IOC altogether! And let them stew there themselves, in their own cockerel...
And it would be nice to have our own, domestic Coubertin, who would create an alternative IOC with China, India, Africa and Latin America!
But let this “civilized” world live on its own:

[Huarabey]

They would mock the country if these athletes represented the country with a flag and anthem. For doping they will deprive, or something else, but the athletes are under the flag. And now, these athletes will not represent Russia. They will go there to represent themselves.
As for the rest, I completely agree with you. And it would be desirable for ours to officially announce that the people who went to this “Olympiad” will in no way be representatives of Russia at these “competitions”.

[Mishka78]

Quote from: AllX_VahhaB

domestic Coubertin, who would create an alternative IOC with China, India, Africa and Latin America!

So yes, but why does “China, India, Africa and Latin America” need all this if no one in the IOC humiliates or harms them like ours?
Look, at 23!! Chinese swimmers were found to have the same doping as Valieva.
But our girl was deprived of all awards and suspended from competitions for 4 years, while their swimmers swam and are swimming. China explained that this is “domestic pollution”, no big deal. WADA and the IOC ate it up perfectly.

[AllX_VahhaB]

Quote: Mishka78

So yes, but why does “China, India, Africa and Latin America” need all this if no one in the IOC humiliates or harms them like ours?

This is exactly what they need, and they don’t need to be told what the “white man’s burden” is! They remember all this at a distance of two generations!

[Shelest2000]

Homeless people without the Flag and Anthem will not demonstrate anything, no symbols Z or some others. Russia is not their country.

[Al manah]

It will no longer be Russian athletes if they go there.

But they will then occupy bureaucratic positions in Russia, and will work as trainers in Russia.

[Vladimir Vladimirovich Vorontsov]

“Or express your political position in any other way” -

— Those Russian athletes who agree to go to the Olympics on Bach’s terms with his bells and whistles are already taking a certain “position” themselves...

[78bor1973]

And some former athletes and now functionaries of an incomprehensible Russophobic organization with a sports bias, some current athletes from Russia can be sent far and for a long time!

[pyagomail.com]

Russian athletes can be “punished”, up to and including immediate removal from the Games.

Firstly, these are not Russian athletes, they do not have a flag and an anthem, and secondly, if they decide to go, they will not have any Zs - they are not going to be filmed. Their decision, but this is not the Russian team.

[spirit]

but this is not a Russian team.

How is this not Russian? And at whose expense are they supported? That is, they train for government money and will perform as a private individual?) For me, an athlete can go anywhere and under any flag if he is completely self-sufficient. Otherwise, this is a parasite

[pyagomail.com]

Quote: spirit

a sportsman can go anywhere and under any flag if he is completely self-sufficient.

I agree with this. But these will travel, seemingly at their own expense.

[Rom8681]

let them punish the swastika

[bayard]

Let's introduce sanctions against this pepper. Both for him and for the entire IOC. On its members. And classify him and the members (IOC) exclusively as corrupt officials, liars and thieves.

[VPK-65]

Judging by video, preparations for the Olympics in Paris are in full swing:
https://t.me/proofzzz/20908
Afghan fans will attack the IOC even without any symbolism, they won’t find it enough...

[Luenkov]

Which Russian athletes? With a white flag? Whose athletes are they? They are not Russian - 100%.

[tralflot1832]

Radio operators from the 80s, so let’s send Bach a triple ZZZ, he’ll like it in Morse code. (And I have a letter from Bach, personally signed by him in 2014 )

[Andrey Moskvin]

Yes, you are a foreign agent, with a diploma. .

[tralflot1832]

Andrey Moskvin. Now I have a dream to have a portrait of Bach in this frame with a letter, the massive frame is also from the IOC. I’m not much of an artist, but if a letter with a frame is put on Bach’s head up to his neck, then there will probably be a gorgeous performance or installation . We just need co-authors so that the bang doesn’t move and spoils the artist’s creative plan.

[AllX_VahhaB]

Quote: tralflot1832

Just need co-authors

I can hold...
If it’s not a secret, what Olympic discipline did you receive a certificate in?

[tralflot1832]

AllX_VahhaB There is no secret, I ensured that the Olympic Games were held so that the winter games would not turn into summer games, no matter how good it would be to skate on the water surface of the stadium instead of ice.

[KZAKVO32923]

Ammonia plants?

rprpoorlololdo

[tralflot1832]

Freon 501 for ice and 137 for climate.

[KZAKVO32923]

Wow, I know R502 and R134a, but I haven’t even heard of these

[antivirus]

Everyone go to hell. We listen to Bach.
Bang, bang.
It's nice to listen to Bach at the opera.
The Olympics provide an influx of money, but children's physical education and sports only cost our state and frayed nerves of coaches and officials.
That’s why our Kremlin people do NOT walk around the backwaters, at the priv fo volleyball or ski racing championships.
Only world resorts are visited.

[Igor Viktorovich]

Children's physical education and sports? You are so far from this topic. There are no costs to the state, everything is almost 100% personal finance, maximum regional meager handouts for regional cups. Prizes, certificates, and phone numbers. Although the prizes have nothing to do with it. The state notices the athlete at the national level. Regional junior sports organizations live from personal investments and patronage. There was no smell of any state there for a long time, when the union collapsed!

[Amateur]

Probably the use of the “Z” symbol will be declared doping and WADA will disqualify such athletes for life. Only Athletes with the “Z” symbol will not go to Bach’s LGBTIade.
They will compete at the World Friendship Games, where men will compete with men, and women with women. And all under their own flags and with their own anthems.
And we will “cheer” for our Russian athletes, and not for the collaborators under the white flag of “Surrender”

[antivirus]

What if the letter z is placed horizontally? What will they call this?

N?
.....
The sign

[svp67]

Russian athletes who will use Z symbols

Hmm... How many foreign companies use this letter, theirs is the same, that...? And why was she the only one persecuted, but what about V, O, N?

English International Olympic Committee IOC; French Comite international olympique, IOC

If only with such abbreviations, they would come up with something and let them ban it...

[Vladlous]

Forgive me, of course, but what kind of nonentity do you have to be in order to go and compete at the Olympic Games in the current situation if you are from Russia? Of course, I understand, a sports career, an Olympic dream, my grandfather himself is an athletics coach, BUT - there are things that in some conditions cannot be done. For example, take part in competitions organized by enemies of your country. And if you agree to a neutral flag, in today’s conditions, when the situation is radically different from the 2018 Winter Olympics or the 2022 Winter Olympics - you, excuse me, just... choose the word yourself.

Therefore, whether someone will speak there supposedly to “prove” something or not - I personally don’t care. Whether it has the letter Z or not is not important. What matters is that he is a TRAITOR. A sort of Vlasovite from sports. This is, of course, just my opinion, but that's what it is. I cannot imagine that Lesgaft graduates would have gone on a tour of Germany somewhere in 1942; a football match in Kyiv does not count - it was a challenge to the Nazis, and not the satisfaction of their own ambitions.

If you want to change your sports citizenship, change it, just put your passport on the table. And never put “SPORT” above the concept of “PATRIOTISM”.

[faiver]

Bach jumps, so as not to be punished himself.......

[Igor Viktorovich]

Now all you smart guys and patriots, listen up. My daughter is 15 years old, she has been playing basketball since she was 6 years old. A lot of effort, nerves, and health were invested. I am silent about the finances that we invest from our pockets. The child tries, he likes it, he strives for the best.. They win Siberian cups, but they don’t compete in Russia yet. And you will tell me that such and such athletes are going to the Olympics. You are simply disgusting. The flag is more important to you than the fate of a person. A person will remain Russian even abroad, and the whole world will know that they are Russians. You are screaming, not to go anywhere, not to the house, that children have practically no childhood, and you are asking to cancel all the efforts of the child, for the sake of preventing you quackers from showing the flag on TV? Low, petty people!

[Huarabey]

"""The flag is more important to you than the fate of a person"""

During the war, people went to their death for the flag of their country.

[Igor Viktorovich]

Children who play sports because they like it, are they at war or something? Don't talk nonsense.

[Huarabey]

Who forbids children to play sports? Let them do it. Let them strive to the top. And if they don’t care that at the top they will be forced to express open disagreement with the policies of their country, then they can change their citizenship. because, I think, they don’t care what country they live in, the main thing is their sporting achievements.

[Igor Viktorovich]

So that's how it is? And the fact that the country cannot provide a good career within the country, and athletes tend to leave, is not the country itself to blame, right? Are people who love sports to blame?

[Huarabey]

Well, that is, you knew that the country could not provide you with a good sports career within the country, but you still took up sports? What did you expect then and who is to blame for this? Patriotism is not devotion to a good country, but devotion to one's country, despite its shortcomings. Well, that's my opinion. I don't insist. If you don’t want to put up with this state of sports in Russia, you can go to another country where you can make a good career in sports.

[Igor Viktorovich]

You can make a good career in another country while remaining a patriot..

[Huarabey]

In my opinion, these are mutually exclusive things.

[Igor Viktorovich]

Sadness of course. That is, to be a patriot, to go abroad or not... What a narrow circle of thinking the kryaprotirots have.

[Huarabey]

Do you know the definition of a patriot? I'll give you a hint. ""A patriot is a person who loves his homeland, his native state, and is ready for heroic deeds and personal sacrifices in the name of his homeland.""
How can a person who went abroad to live and work for himself be considered a patriot of his country? It’s just that the whole point is that for some, the concept of “Patriot” is somehow not modern, for others it is normal, but for others it is generally offensive. Everyone chooses for themselves.

[Igor Viktorovich]

Young people go to the Olympics for the sake of victory, and not to live and work there, don’t wag your tail, you won’t be able to get off topic.

[Huarabey]

So you're the one wagging your tail. You complain that in Russia there are no conditions for a good sports career, and now they suddenly started talking about how we’ll quickly get everyone to the Olympics, win everyone and come back. It turns out that you will prepare for victory - precisely in Russia. In which there are no good conditions for a sports career. Somehow we need to decide. No?

[Igor Viktorovich]

I decided 9 years ago. Absolutely, the state did nothing for my child in the development of sports, everyone did it themselves, uniforms, training camps, training sessions, sections, trips to competitions, accommodation. Everything is personal from your pocket. State zero. And if, when she graduates from the juniors, and with God’s and parental help, I hope she becomes an athlete at the national level and starts competing in international competitions, do you think I’ll say thank you to my homeland? Yes, crap. This is not the USSR, which raised athletes. CSKA, and so on.. This is Russia that notices a good athlete who has already made it, and drags him to defend the flag. Calm down, I’ve been observing the situation from the inside for almost ten years.

[Huarabey]

Wow, what an insidious Russia... She noticed a good athlete who had grown up in it, lassoed him and dragged him to defend the flag at the Olympics... What a horror. Poor athletes...
p.s. Is it okay that athletes are people who spend their entire adult lives doing only what they like? Only other people are used to paying for doing what they like and this is in the order of things, but athletes, for some reason, dare to express dissatisfaction that they have to pay for their hobbies and demand that the state pay for it. There is some logic missing in this. I like jumping with a parachute.... should I also be offended by the state that it doesn’t pay for it? What do you think?

[Andrey Moskvin]

Igor Viktorovich

Everything is personal from your pocket. State zero.

So are you worried about dividends from your investments?

[Vladlous]

Sorry, but it's your choice, you knew what you were getting into. It's your daughter's choice. Sport, especially the sport of high achievements, and we are talking about it, in general, is a cruel business. Do you want to go to the Olympic Games? No problem - change your citizenship and move on. At least for the USA, at least for Germany, at least for the UK. If you believe that the country exists exclusively for athletes, then you are deeply mistaken. These athletes exist for the country - nothing more. And yes, of course, the flag, the anthem, the country are much more important to me than athletes like these. Here, of course, I remember Arshavin’s statement to one of the fans after missing out from the group at the 2012 Football Championship: “we are not playing for you.” I just want to ask: who would you be without the country, the fans, without the Motherland? No one and nothing.

The fact that young athletes are deprived of their childhood is their own choice, I emphasize this again, as well as the choice of their parents. So that's what they wanted. But sport is not a predetermined path; at any moment an injury can occur that will ruin your entire career, and maybe even your life; There may be a political problem, like now. But I consider hysteria about this to be low and disgusting. If you don't like Russia, the solution is there!

Our athletes, for the most part, are already sick with narcissism - it’s time for many to return to earth.

[Igor Viktorovich]

The last paragraph is simply gorgeous, it’s the hysteria of you, lovers of symbolism and imperial-minded ancestors. The country does absolutely nothing for young athletes. I love Russia, this is my homeland and my country, what does it have to do with the exit there. You are simply delirious with the demonstration of flags, anthems and other symbols. It is clear that this lowers the country’s authority, but excuse me, athletes go there to prove themselves first of all. Neither of you played sports seriously, I'm one hundred percent sure of that. Rocking chairs and yard football don't count.

[Vladlous]

And he’s doing the right thing by not doing it. Sport is not medicine, not social security, not defense, not education. In many countries around the world, young athletes support themselves, and the state then allows them to compete under its own flag. So beloved by Russian liberals, for example, the first thing Estonia did after secession was to close the Olympic reserve schools, of which there were three. If you want to perform and train, pay!

In Russia, there are actually hothouse conditions for young athletes.

[Igor Viktorovich]

Is he doing the right thing, what is he not doing? Then what kind of sporting Russia do you want? Did you even understand what I wrote? Now even the symbol-dependent protriots thought to themselves that you still had too much borscht!

[Vladlous]

And who said that I want a sports Russia? I want a strong state, not a bunch of narcissistic parasites competing with each other for the sake of their own ambitions. I want decent pensions, good salaries in production, I want our universities to become the best in the world, and for crafts to become honored again and to be decently paid. I want Russia to have the strongest army and the most educated people, but I don’t want the money that could be spent on all this to be invested in narcissistic athletes who see the world exclusively through the prism of their hypertrophied “I”.

[Igor Viktorovich]

So you don't need sports? Why then education, you can just have a strong army.. All my life I thought that education, medicine and sports are inevitable companions of a strong state, but what do you think? The doctors there are still tyrants, and if he is a professor, then in general. And in the institutes, teachers generally consider themselves gods, have you seen what the rectors of leading universities ride on... And yes, the Deputy Minister of Defense, a hundred lyams are lost, lards are flying there... Well, if you want to do this, but not for sports, your right.

[Mishka78]

Quote: Igor Viktorovich

So you don't need sports?

“Sports of high achievements” is not needed at all. This is nonsense and stupidity. Destruction of one’s “I”, destruction of one’s own body, etc.

[Igor Viktorovich]

Wow, how sad everything is, that is, with both the flag and the anthem, we have nothing to do at international competitions, do I understand correctly?

[Mishka78]

There is absolutely nothing.
Tell us, how do you feel about the children who participate in the show “The Voice”?

[Igor Viktorovich]

So ask Ovechkin, Malkin, Datsuk, Bure, and other Russian legionnaires... They will tell you exactly who they are without everything you listed! Ask the boys from the youth team who are running for the NHL and other foreign leagues. When they took heights with a flag, you were ready to lick them in the back places, as soon as they came out without a flag, you were ready to tear them apart. You are petty and insignificant.

[Vladlous]

They used the state as a feed base to then play in Canada and the USA. I think that even in childhood, athletes, or more precisely from their parents, must sign a pledge that they will not leave to play for foreign teams, otherwise there is no point in providing the state with even minimal support. If there is no signature, let him go to develop in the states at his own expense, and not with people’s money. Bure, in general, by the way, they are two brothers, like many others, grew up at the Soviet hockey school. I don’t see any point in the state spending money on those who will start playing tomorrow for clubs, or even national teams - potential opponents. This is just stupid.

[Igor Viktorovich]

Then please tell your country, and mine too, so that it doesn’t even think about calling up national teams anymore.. By the way, the victorious march of Russian hockey began precisely with such people, traitors, playing in the NHL, but with the Russian hockey championship, when ours screwed up the Canadians in 2008, on the centenary day of Canadian hockey in the capital of Canada.. I’m sure you remember and are proud of it! Think about it.

[Vladlous]

It was an achievement, no doubt about it. But, think about this, why, under the Soviet hockey system, such victories were not once every twenty years, but on a regular basis? In 1972, the USSR national team defeated the Canadian national team in the first match, although they lost the series. and the Canadian team was made up of the strongest NHL players, not like in 2008. These were truly the best of the best. I think that back then the attitude towards sports and athletes in the USSR was simply different. The athlete was a statesman, and now he is on his own, but as before, he demands to be considered a representative of the state, without even representing this state.

[Igor Viktorovich]

I know perfectly well why, because there were sections, sports were held in high esteem, the country nurtured athletes. And the athletes were proud of their country, because they knew that they owed it to their homeland. And now my daughter clearly sees that except for her mom and dad, no one is investing in her achievement. So, after all, who achieved victory over Canada, the Russian guys who clenched their will into a fist and showed the whole world who the Russians are, or the traitors, the Nkhlov defectors? Answer please.

[Vladlous]

Don’t confuse the political situation of that time with today’s, these are generally two different moments. Then it was still possible to tolerate these defectors, because I remember their performance at the World Cup in St. Petersburg, when only France and Sweden were beaten, and all other games were lost, because they hung around bars and pubs. And 2008, forgive the cynicism, a victory is a victory, but not without the desire to raise its market value - that’s all.

[Igor Viktorovich]

Oh, there it is, that is, your statements that an achievement is no longer an achievement in everything. Yes, my friend, you are a changeling. The discussion is over, we will remain with our opinions, all the best to you, without sports Russia!

[YEHU]

So does this mean people for the state, and not the state for the people? So why is it a state? For itself, and people are an appendage to it?

[Victor M.]

Well, yes. While some young people go to the front and die, others commit betrayal. After all, they “have tried all their lives.” "Walk towards your dream."

[Igor Viktorovich]

Are you suggesting that my 15 year old daughter go to the front to die? Did he blurt it out just to be more patriotic?

[Roman Efremov]

that your daughter doesn’t have a childhood thanks to sports - that’s your choice, there’s nothing to complain about. But if your daughter reaches heights in sports for state money and goes to defend his honor for state money, the state will not be indifferent to what flag she goes under. If you don’t agree, send your daughter for your money to some private competition, where people and not countries compete. But not for the Olympics - this has long been a competition between countries and not people.

[NakedMan]

Quote: Igor Viktorovich

The flag is more important to you than the fate of a person. A person will remain Russian even abroad, and the whole world will know that they are Russians.

If it’s normal for a person to go humiliate himself as a clown for you know who, then I don’t want him to be considered Russian. Was all the effort for this? You can do sports for the sake of sports within the country, and international competitions are not only Olympic ones.

[Prisoner]

Those who trample to Paris, they will run from the Z symbol like devils from incense.

[Ross xnumx]

The head of the IOC said that Russian athletes who use the Z symbol could be “punished”

Wouldn't rainbow-colored flags offend the feelings and dignity of the IOC?
Turn the Olympics into LGBT parades!!! You are on the right track!!!

[yo yo]

In such a wretched and base way, citizen Bach is trying to punish the Great Power. Funny !!!!

[Igor Viktorovich]

But some don’t, some want the Russians not to go, not to win. Just let him know that this is all ceeuropia wants, to isolate us completely.

[Olesya Lesya]

We want to win in a fair fight, and not under the farce and humiliating conditions in which we were placed. We don't want to put up with the conditions being imposed on us. Let them flop around in their tent themselves. The Olympic movement no longer exists, it was killed. All that's left is clownery. Where athletes are lined up like prostitutes and they choose whoever they like as a corrupt gopher.
"Isolate"? Yes, the Westerners themselves have already isolated themselves from civilization and common sense. ))) If one of our people wants to go, then let him go: he resigns/resigns from the national teams of his federation, is removed from the budget and goes at his own expense without any goodies. They do not represent the country, but travel as refugees (these are the conditions of the IOC).
And further. I don’t understand why you are so different (or maybe a provocateur). Most children play sports and have been involved since childhood. I also worked out, my parents paid for it, but I don’t whine that I don’t compete at the Olympics, because I did sports just for myself!!!! And remember: professional sports have long been business and politics. Athletes go to the Olympic Games for the sake of money, for fame and all sorts of contracts... They go only for themselves in the current conditions. Athletes in our country are already on privileged terms, fully supported by the state and with good salaries and conditions.

[Incvizitor]

Why haven’t our specialists over the hill eliminated this trash yet? What are they waiting for?

[Grim Reaper]

Let them go... ahem, let them go. The only strange thing is that they are so beautiful, healthy, athletic, they will defend who knows what, and not in the trenches, you know where...

[Electrical]

Let them go... ahem, let them go.

No, let them go. Otherwise, the whole world will judge our country by these latent homoterpiles. They should be completely deprived of citizenship, and let them simply be representatives of LGBT people. Such people will probably not be kicked out of the Olympics; they will belong there.

[geor.tcherniaev]

In general, let the West play its gay-transgender games with itself. Normal athletes who are far from politics and gender equality have nothing to do THERE.

[bone1]

And there are no Russian athletes there

[sgr291158]

What, one of our people is going to these cock games. Yes, this is how you should not respect yourself.

[KZAKVO32923]

Hypocrites! Israel is simply committing genocide against the Palestinians and no one dares to remove them from competitions, such as sports outside of politics, as well as other events. And as for Russia, they immediately raise a howl, although Russia does not even do one thousandth of what the Zionist fascists are doing.

[YEHU]

That's right, sport is not about politics. Therefore, all political demonstrations at the Olympics are prohibited. And not just the letter z.

[dimann271]

Why, it’s impossible to kill Bach?