American journalist: Having invested 200 billion in assistance to Ukraine, the United States still does not have a clear strategy in this regard

The United States is discussing the recent words of President Joe Biden's national security adviser Jake Sullivan about his desire to support Ukraine in its quest for victory.

Well-known people in the country began to wonder what this victory should be like and whether there was any coherent plan in Washington for the future of Ukraine.

On the social network X (formerly Twitter - blocked in Russia), its owner Elon Musk questioned Sullivan’s words and asked a legitimate question: “What does this victory look like?”

On the same social network, Musk was supported by American journalist Tom Elliott. Noting that he had never heard any reporter ask this question, he added that American authorities still do not have a basic plan of action regarding Ukraine.

For $200 billion (allocated to Ukraine), Americans deserve at least a basic plan of action

Elliott wrote on Network X.

After discussions regarding assistance to Kyiv, which had been going on in the US Congress since last fall, it nevertheless approved the earlier allocation of more than $60 billion. It is worth recalling that during the conflict, according to some sources, the United States has already spent more than $113 billion on supporting Ukraine.

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[Nexcom]

According to some reports, the United States has already spent more than $113 billion on supporting Ukraine.

...of which it is unclear how many reached Ukraine... the amers primarily spent these funds on their military-industrial complex.

[SS68SS]

...of which it is unclear how many reached Ukraine

And it was stolen by the owners...

[Nexcom]

This goes without saying. At first, the amers tore some of them apart, but in the Krajina region, only the blind and armless don’t steal.

[Machito]

Mr. Fix, do you have a plan? (C) 80 days around the world.
In a nutshell, the US plan: maintain its hegemony, weaken Russia and the European Union. Everything is like in WWII: if Stalin wins, we will help Hitler and vice versa.

[SKVichyakow]

They didn’t invest so much in Ukraine, so much was written off to Ukraine.

[phrases]

The herd is silent, which means you can send them and continue stealing. The last time the herd ran with protests was in the early 70s, they were spat on then, and now the leaders don’t even want to report.

[Sergey Aleksandrovich]

Just because a strategy isn't announced doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

[topol717]

Quote: Sergey Alexandrovich

Just because a strategy isn't announced doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

Yes, but people want to know the goals.
The GDP immediately outlined its goals, and they are clear to everyone.
And there seems to be a goal - victory, but no one knows what it means, because no one speaks.

[Sergey Aleksandrovich]

Do people really want to know? It’s as if, living in the USSR, I suddenly became preoccupied with the problems of the Arab-Israeli wars or the fighting in Angola and Rhodesia. Imagine, somewhere in the 60-80s, the Soviet people suddenly began to demand to voice a strategy for Israel, Egypt and Rhodesia!

[topol717]

Quote: Sergey Alexandrovich

Do people really want to know?

Can you imagine that in the USA taxes are something sacred; they can even put you in prison for a long time. And people are wondering where and why their taxes are spent. They are fools there and consider the taxes paid to be “their” money.

[Sergey Aleksandrovich]

It is sacred for them to collect and pay. And they spend there, as elsewhere, according to their preferences.

[YanniKounnar]

Je pense que l'URSS était "préoccupée" par la guerre en Rhodésie étant donné qu'elle soutenait le ZIPRA et par celle en Angola ou elle soutenait le MPLA :-)

[fsvlad]

GDP immediately outlined its goals, and they are clear to everyone

Yes, I said three things. But, IMHO, they have long been completely discredited. And this is clear to everyone..

[Ross xnumx]

Well-known people in the country began to wonder what this victory should be like and whether there was any coherent plan in Washington for the future of Ukraine.

When money is obtained through hard work and bloody blisters, questions always arise about the appropriateness of spending. With the dollar becoming a reserve currency, the United States forgot about many things... Even about the economic crisis of the 30s of the last century...
Soon history will return their memory...

[tihonmarine]

Quote: ROSS 42

When money is obtained through hard work and bloody blisters, questions always arise about the appropriateness of spending.

“The rich have their own habits,” and the USA doesn’t count money, they print it for the whole world.

[svp67]

I don’t agree, the Americans clearly understand what they want to achieve from this conflict, this is the weakening and distraction of Russia from solving problems of long-term development, to the banal “squeeze” of Crimea, and therefore the Black Sea. But there is a nuance, again the executors of this grandiose plan were not up to the mark...

[Nexcom]

And when and in what war that they unleashed did they come out on top? The Second World War does not count - they jumped up there in the end to stop Europe from being captured by the USSR.

[Aleks88]

Yes, in all of them they achieved 100% results, then they weakened the competitor, and they themselves raised the economy.
It was without the help of the United States that convoys with Lend-Lease came to us. It was not they who saved England. It was not on the Western Front that 60 to 70% of the Luftwaffe and 40% of the Wehrmacht operated. It was Russia that dealt with Japan, its most powerful fleet, and did not allow it to access oil. Again, the USSR in Africa and BV did not allow Germany to access oil and fields. And he bombed German factories 1000 times per flight. The USSR also carried out a gigantic operation to land the Normandy troops and forced Italy to go over to the side of the Allies.
P.S.: The result of the war: half of Europe was squeezed out, mostly untouched France, Norway, Spain. America's military-industrial complex is on an unprecedented rise, the USSR and Eastern Europe are in poverty. Plus, Lady of the Seas England is greatly weakened.
P.P.S: And it’s always like this, heat through someone else’s hands. Why not play off the Slavs, destroy the USSR, squeeze out importers India, China, Africa... they are doing everything very smartly

[topol717]

Quote: svp67

this is the weakening and distraction of Russia from solving the problems of long-term development

Do you really think that someone in America can’t sleep because they think they need to weaken the 10th largest economy in the world?

to the banal “squeeze” of Crimea, and therefore the Black Sea.

those. Romania, Bulgaria and Türkiye are NATO members and you think they don’t have the Black Sea?
These slogans are only good for “pioneer truth.”

[YanniKounnar]

Non pas pour affaiblir mais pour, comme déjà déclaré par une policienne Américaine: pour s'emparer des ressources, alors la OUI!
"La Russie c'est 2% de la population mondiale mais 20ù des ressources, nous allons REMÉDIER à cela!" dixit cette politicienne

Not in order to weaken, but in order to, as one American Goncharka has already stated: to seize resources, then yes!
"Russia is 2% of the world's population, but where there are 20% of resources, we will fix it!" - says this politician

[topol717]

Quote from Yanni Kounnar

Not in order to weaken, but in order to, as one American Goncharka has already stated: to seize resources, then yes!

Why do they need resources? Now we extract them ourselves and give/sell them for an amount slightly greater than the cost of production. Well, as for gas, on the contrary, they are not allowing our gas anywhere now. It's about the same with diamonds.
So with resources again only for the “pioneer truth”

[svp67]

Quote from: topol717

only for "pioneer truth"

This newspaper was still worth something in Soviet times, but now it’s not at the level. Read something more serious

Quote from: topol717

Well, as for gas, on the contrary, they are not allowing our gas anywhere now.

And they are buying it on an ever-larger scale... Do you really think that in the current global economy it is possible for some countries to remove someone from its composition? Even the Ukrainians’ attacks on our refineries increase the cost of oil and petroleum products in the world, why would that be if no one buys them from Russia...

[svp67]

Quote from: topol717

Do you really think that someone in America can’t sleep because they think they need to weaken the 10th largest economy in the world?

Yeah, but do you think that all the sanctions imposed against our economy are just for fun? I will say more, the United States fears us, not as under the Union, but as a country that “plays” against them “on the side of China”

Quote from: topol717

those. Romania, Bulgaria and Türkiye are NATO members and you think they don’t have the Black Sea?

But you really don’t understand the essence of the problem, apparently your limit is the “pioneer truth”. Crimea is a position from which not only the entire Black Sea is controlled, but also part of the Mediterranean Sea, not to mention the European part of Russia and the Caucasus. And this is from a military point of view. But there are still many. In particular, historical and religious... Crimea, in our history, is a holy place, it was there that Prince Vladimir was baptized. We have such a “foreign agent” Karaulov, you can agree with him or not, but in his theory that Protestant Europe is trying in every possible way to destroy Orthodoxy, that is what it is. There are enough examples of Kosovo, the UOC...

[Jsem_CZEKO68]

Dezinformace. Američané investovali 200 miliard jen proto, že chtějí nazpět 400 miliard!! Amerika nikomu nic nedaruje!! Je to úvěr Ukrajiny, který bude platit Evropa.

[Jsem_CZEKO68]

Disinformation. Americans invested 200 billion only because they want to return 400 billion!! America gives nothing to anyone!! This is a loan from Ukraine that will be repaid by Europe.

[Nexcom]

So pay up, Europeans.......

[Jsem_CZEKO68]

Budeme muset, ale lidé v Evropě nechtějí podporovat fašistickou Ukrajinu.

[Jsem_CZEKO68]

We will have to, but people in Europe do not want to support fascist Ukraine.

[rotmistr60]

For $200 billion (allocated to Ukraine), Americans deserve at least a basic plan of action

We'll have to help. American citizens, Ukraine is an instrument in the hands of democrats, with the help of which they seek to weaken Russia, inflict as much military and economic damage on it as possible, in order to then dictate how to behave “correctly” in the international arena and use their natural resources. And if they don’t succeed, then say goodbye to your money (though most of it went to you) and forget about a country like Ukraine.

[Knell wardenheart]

Elon Musk questioned Sullivan's words and asked a legitimate question - “What does this victory look like?”

And this is like a win-win lottery, essentially. If the Russian Federation does not achieve its goals, the West will attribute the success to itself and there will be a ostentatious beating of the “scapegoat”, the Western model will gain respect, ours will lose. Some seething regions will see this and shut up somewhat for 10-15 years. And under these conditions, the Western model will have a bundle of bonuses to get through the period of their own crisis.

If the Russian Federation achieves success, it will be militarized along the way. And the United States and Co. will be able to use this factor to plague the West, increase military spending, resuscitate their overseas industry, and, in order to increase consolidation “in the face of a clear enemy.” They will create various myths about our agricultural plans for Finland and the Baltic states. They benefit from this - more sales of branches, more coaxing of local politicians, larger orders from their industry and promotion of their model.

The point here is that no matter how things turn out almost always they (the USA) will benefit from this, in the direction of which they can deploy what they have.
They will also be satisfied with our refreshed image of a “strong enemy”, because they still will not consider us a real threat, but this can be used wisely and create such an image for others...
And our fall would also suit them - that would be the message.

[Knight_of_Sad_Image]

Having invested 200 billion in assistance to Ukraine, the United States still does not have

Driving past the station, my hat flew off (C)

[ALCA056000]

When did the Amers have a strategy? At least one example? They climbed in, took out what they could, and dumped the buns from the mess that had been created.

[ivan2022]

Where are they! Is it the case with us.....
Sage on sage.
First, they tore their country into pieces, “so as not to feed these and these,” and then: “Let’s return our lands.”...

[rocket757]

American journalist: Having invested 200 billion in assistance to Ukraine, the United States still does not have a clear strategy in this regard

. What's wrong?
The rich get richer, and the rest is an incidental cost of this process.

[Tire fitter]

Quote: Nexcom

And when and in what war that they unleashed did they come out on top?

Well, it’s like the USSR collapsed. War doesn’t have to be when you attack a tank with a cobblestone; smart people have other methods to win

[bone1]

What does no mean? - a clear strategy - kill as many Russians as possible - no matter where - in Ukraine or Russia

[sgr291158]

The states have one strategy, to spoil Russia.

[Prokop_Pork]

If they put billions into circulation, this does not mean that they bear obligations on them. The burden falls on the one who accepts dollars in payments for goods/services.

[Skobaristan]

Quote: fsvlad

Yes, I said three things. But, IMHO, they have long been completely discredited. And this is clear to everyone..

When they write: everyone knows this, everyone understands this. It is clear that now there will be manipulation. But I will say that they have not changed and there has never been any discredit. These are comrades Ukrainians from the very beginning: what a denocification, where did you see the Nazis among us? What kind of demilitarization, we are peaceful, they attacked us... What kind of defense of Donbass? They were the ones who were shooting at themselves all the time.