The arrested Deputy Minister of Defense of the Russian Federation previously purchased a house with an area of ​​1500 square meters and bought expensive cars

In the Russian security forces, the Deputy Minister of Defense of the Russian Federation, Timur Ivanov, who was recently detained and arrested by court order, was considered one of the most wealthy officials. During his career in a high position, which he took in 2016, the official’s material well-being has increased significantly.

It is enough to analyze even the property that was indicated in the official declaration of the actual state adviser of the Russian Federation, 1st class, in order to assess the level of his financial well-being. For example, it turns out that every year Ivanov and his wife updated their vehicle fleet by buying a new car or motorcycle.

In 2016, it follows from the declaration, the family owned nine vehicles, in 2019 – already twelve vehicles. Among them is the rare ZiS-110 limousine, which costs about 15 million rubles. Ivanov’s ex-wife owns a Bentley Continental, Aston Martin, Hummer H2 and 2 Harley-Davidson motorcycles.

Another “happy acquisition” of the Deputy Minister of Defense of the Russian Federation is a luxurious house with a total area of ​​1,5 thousand square meters. But it is not clear to whom this house is registered. Ivanov himself formally owns only a share in an apartment with an area of ​​44,2 square meters. But Ivanov’s child has an apartment in Mexico with a total area of ​​350 square meters.

Ivanov was arrested on charges of committing crimes of a corruption nature. Now he uses the services of three lawyers. Now the defense is going to propose that the deputy minister be released from the pre-trial detention center on bail. In the military department, we recall, Ivanov was responsible for issues of construction, housing, and medical care.

If the court finds the official guilty, he may well receive a real prison term. However, it appears that there will be a rather long and complex trial ahead.

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[antiaircrafter]

But the homeless Vasya, who stole a rotten chicken, will be locked up for five years. Well, at least he’ll live in the warmth.

[Nyrobsky]

Quote: antiaircrafter

But the homeless Vasya, who stole a rotten chicken, will be locked up for five years. Well, at least he’ll live in the warmth.

Why "But"? They didn’t let him go, they said, go to all four directions.
Vasya will get his five years for the chicken, and this one will get his eight for a bribe of 1,5 billion. In any case, he will not be able to escape from the article. However, this is not the point; something else is important here.
As for me, bribe takers should be divided into two types - small bribe takers (municipal level) and big bribe takers (department or ministry level), for whom the terms should be measured taking into account the degree of damage caused to the prestige of the authorities, i.e. discrediting them. This pretzel, due to the position he holds, needs not 8 years, but the entire fifteen-year period and, through the procedure of confiscation of property, deprived of everything acquired by “backbreaking labor.” In short, the higher the position, the longer the term should be.

[Pavel_Sveshnikov]

In China they simply shoot people like that. I am not a supporter of such measures at all. But this case is so egregious. This is how you need to treat your fellow citizens when they are collecting their crumbs for the front. And this geek is stuffing his suitcases with banknotes because he has nowhere to spend them. Meanwhile, at the front, guys without drones and electronic warfare are dying. I would take him to the front in the attack aircraft, to the hottest sector.

[Olesya Lesya]

That's exactly what embezzlers should be shot at. This bastard stole hundreds of billions. Here's what they showed from the search of his house: dozens of bags filled with wads of money, and even boxes. All his relatives, even his ex-wives, are wealthy and live happily, while they criticize Russia. The same are the kids who post videos in the style of navalnyat. The whole family needs to be groomed there.

[Wratch]

The stooped dog will run away! Nope...just to the wall, and the family is kicked off to Siberia, to work off the sins of the cunning husband.

[alystan]

In Russia, the need to return capital punishment is being discussed. It seems that the majority of Russians are in favor. Although, all you have to do is abandon the moratorium on it, adopted to please the West. Or maybe for some other reasons.

Timur Ivanov would be ideal to become No. 1 on the list.

[ISKANDER_61]

There's a sea of ​​candidates there. The Kremlin wall is not enough.

[Trapp1st]

Why "But"? They didn’t let him go, they said, go to all four directions.

I wonder if he will sign a contract with the Moscow Region so that he can go to the Northern Military District as an attack aircraft or he will fail))

As for me, bribe-takers should be divided into two types - small bribe-taker (municipal level) and large bribe-taker (department or ministry level), to whom the terms should be measured taking into account the degree of damage caused

This is not a fight against corruption, this is a change in the manager of financial flows, you are not talking about that.

[Deon59]

Two cops shot a woman, instead of going to prison, to the front line, one returned with a reward and drove her to death in a car. That's it

[Trapp1st]

Two cops shot a woman, instead of going to prison, to the front line, one returned with a reward and drove her to death in a car. That's it

There are even worse stories like this: a carriage with a small cart. It’s worse when all sorts of maniacs start to continue on their return.

[Deon59]

And then they shout over the zombie box that the Ukrainians want to conscript 10 thousand prisoners

[Nyrobsky]

Quote: Trapp1st

I wonder if he will sign a contract with the Moscow Region in order to go to the Northern Military District or he will fail)) Although I know the answer...

I think my opinion will exactly coincide with your answer - “He won’t sign.”
This pretzel will sit quietly for the first year, delve into the regime and comprehend the intra-zonal movement and hierarchy, and when he gets used to it, he will begin to scribble complaints about the fact that he was not given enough rations, or that the assortment in the zone’s stall is poor. As a rule, everyone who has made a rapid “career” from a leather chair to Zonov’s bunks becomes the main “writers” in the prosecutor’s “library”.

[Trapp1st]

I think my opinion will exactly coincide with your answer - “He won’t sign.”

It was as an attack aircraft to the front line, and not in a storm, I forgot what it’s called there, for a photo shoot for all sorts of sons who only see the front line on TV.

[2 Level Advisor]

Quote: Trapp1st

It was an attack aircraft to the front line, and not in a storm, I forgot what it was called there

You have confused something - Storm Z, V were and are the main attack aircraft at the front.. there are some other formations there, but this is not Storm for ZK..

[Wratch]

There was an excellent article in the Criminal Code of the USSR, approx. 93. And there was a limit there, if I’m not mistaken, 10 tr. This article needs to be revived urgently! Stole people's property in the amount of () - to the wall, complete confiscation of property, add loss of rights to the family and a link to the construction of infrastructure facilities. Yes, and it would be nice to shake up the ENTIRE Ministry of Defense, you never know there are still lovers of a beautiful and rich life???

[Trapp1st]

This article needs to be revived urgently!

We have enough articles, it’s just that the fish has already rotted from head to tip of the tail.

[VLAD-96]

Yes, I completely agree, but in our country such rules, even if they are adopted, are unlikely to work... Because such pretzels have patrons, connections and authority, and in the worst case they can imprison him for appearances, but in fact he sits there and it won't...
It’s like in the movie Serf-2, that same minister’s daughter is a crazy slut..

[ProkletyiPirat]

Quote: Nyrobsky

As for me, bribe takers should be divided into two types - small bribe takers (municipal level) and big bribe takers (department or ministry level), for whom the terms should be measured taking into account the degree of damage caused to the prestige of the authorities, i.e. discrediting them.

As for me, there should be one law for everyone and everything: “if you stole N-money, or caused damage worth N-money, then: you, your relatives and/or your descendants must return at least (2*N)-money”

At the same time, there must be a nuance correction: that the debt can be written off not only by returning the money, but also by other methods, for example, “death in battle for the good of the state writes off A-money from the debt”

[SKVichyakow]

The conclusions are correct. Do you assume that the authorities will accept this? It's like putting a noose around your own neck.

[Ksavier]

Well, this is how it should be in a normal state. Unfortunately, the last such state ceased to exist in 1991. Therefore, now he will most likely be given a suspended sentence after a year of house arrest and transferred to another line of work with a firm handshake.

[sgrabik]

We urgently need to change our liberal laws, many of them were written during the reign of the liberal riffraff and have lost an objective connection with reality; for scoundrels - corrupt officials of this magnitude, a separate article of the law is needed, which would provide for, if not life imprisonment, then at least years of imprisonment for thirty without any right to parole, and with complete confiscation of property, not only from him personally, but also from all his relatives.

[Cat Alexandrovich]

But Vasya will not have to face a long and complicated trial.

[alystan]

It wouldn’t hurt to check on his ex (allegedly divorced) wife at the same time. They write that Ivanov’s career growth rapidly began to grow precisely after meeting her.
And ten years before him, she was married to a businessman and best friends with a crime boss, who arranged for her to get an Israeli passport.

[YanniKounnar]

"Selon que vous serez puissant ou miserable, les jugements de cours vous rendrons blanc ou noir" Jean de La Fontaine
Vous voyez rien de nouveau...

[YanniKounnar]

"According to whether you are powerful or unfortunate, judicial decisions will make you white or black" Jean de la Fontaine 1621/1695
You don't see anything new...

[alystan]

“they will make you white or black” in Russian it would probably be better - “they will whitewash or denigrate you.”

[Thrifty]

But the whole country buys Mavics, first aid kits, walkie-talkies for our military by subscription.... I would like the money from the sale of the apartment to go towards purchases for the military, there, on the front line!

[alystan]

And Shoigu and Co. are building Temples and also collecting donations for this.

[Nexcom]

Well, now, as usual, evidence of moral decay, materialism, the amount of money, cars, apartment houses and other things will begin to emerge... However, I would be surprised if nothing like this was found on Ivanov.....

[ZhEK-Vodogrey]

Deputy Minister of Defense after all. The position obliges. Here you need to understand how state grandfathers work. Each major state grandfather is a feudal lord with his own vassal inheritance, food supply, a retinue of smaller vassals, and so on. Purely like in the Middle Ages, the difference is almost zero. Ivanov was like a major feudal lord. Count or something like that. Part of the retinue of the Duke of Plywood and occupying an important position there. And, God knows what happened in the government offices, but this Count Ivanov was given the go-ahead to devour him. Exactly him. The other counts and the Duke himself cannot be touched yet. Because they have the same immunity that Ivanov himself had just recently. And it became possible. Most likely unexpectedly for Ivanov himself (he was generally careless and traded too much of his face where it was not necessary). But not a surprise for those state grandfathers who pushed for his landing.

[Nastia makarova]

someone needs to be eaten and divided

[Machito]

Theft on such a scale from the budget of the RF Ministry of Defense during the Northern Military District and the transfer of money abroad is corruption, theft on an especially large scale, the creation of an organized crime group, discrediting the army and authorities, treason to the Motherland, betrayal of front-line soldiers and a whole bunch of other articles. For this, one should be sentenced to life imprisonment with confiscation of all assets from relatives.
Compared to him, Strelok is just an idealist dreamer who blurted out a little too much (and that’s not a fact). And Strelka was given an A for such a small thing. How many VO commentators can be imprisoned, like Strelok, for their comments? Yes, the whole forum here will be empty if they start imprisoning people like Strelka.
Let's see how long this effective manager with the shoulder straps of an army general will be locked up? Or will he be understood and forgiven, like the Bearded Man?

[dmi.pris1]

Galustyan, log back...... Betrayal of the front-line soldiers.... Give him to them, even if they put him up as a wall, even if they tie him to a tank during an attack... Here we need to dig deeper, who is his protégé (oh my God, is it really Shoigu), How did he even get to such a post? Some people here are actually worried about the guy - his wife supposedly set him up, but he himself is fluffy In general, the authority of the Defense Ministry has been driven into the ground by such things. And yes, why is he no longer a general, but a civilian? Some kind of adviser? Damn, what’s on his shoulders? Why disgrace the uniform at all? Wear jackets and skirts (made of plush). Ugh!

[Machito]

I am not Galustyan. I am Borodachev.
Timur and his team completely discredited the entire leadership of the Moscow Region. Surovikina went somewhere. Regroupings. Formations before missile attacks by the Armed Forces of Ukraine. And now this.
The Russian Armed Forces need to be cleaned up in 1939.

[dmi.pris1]

Nv, sorry. I was wrong. Like those in the film "Ben Hur" to the trireme for the ram...

[Gardamir]

In theory, they should understand and forgive. Strelkov, albeit conditionally, is a contender for power, and this one is a little not quite his own. Ulyukaev was also imprisoned. Serdyukov was not even considered. Zhenechka held a mazu for him.

[Machito]

Well, which Strelok is a politician?
He cannot even formulate his political position himself. Then he is a monarchist (born 150 years late), then a socialist. I watched his programs: he smacks the confused crap.
Platoshkin will most likely be imprisoned for politics. And us too.

[Sergey Aleksandrovich]

Strelkov is a huge political figure. With his track record, he left far behind such heroes of the past as Che Guevara all together. In such difficult conditions as his, Fidel Castro would not have been able to cope either.
With horror one can imagine the consequences of the fact that he will be cleared as a platoon commander and, God forbid, he will be captured! If he is sent to the Northern Military District, it will be kilometers from the battle line.

[Machito]

I respect Strelok, but comparing him with Che and Fidel is incorrect. These are figures of different scales, by orders of magnitude. The shooter could not even lead the Russian Spring.

[Sergey Aleksandrovich]

Strelkov undermined the very foundations of Ukrainian statehood, and some even believe that his activities led to a change in the world order.

[Machito]

The shooter appeared in Slavyansk after the referendum. His role in the initial period of the armed struggle in Donbass is enormous and priceless, but he is not a politician, he is a military man. Read his biography. What party was he in? What elections did you participate in?

[Sergey Aleksandrovich]

I didn’t demand this from myself either. He took and shook such a powerful Nazi state as Ukraine, with only fifty comrades. Moreover, without having any support at that time.

[Sergey Aleksandrovich]

This is the problem; Strelkov is by no means a contender for power. He is confused with Jesus Christ, who was the very power.

[Mishka78]

Quote: Bearded

Or will he be understood and forgiven, like the Bearded Man?

There were precedents. Moreover, relatively recently...

[Pavel_Sveshnikov]

Agree. The official lived and was not afraid of anything at all. That is, he was sure that all his rears were covered and no one would do anything to him. Otherwise I wouldn’t have behaved so brazenly. You can see from his face that the man is not stupid. One gets the feeling that everyone at the top probably has the same thing. Therefore, they are not particularly worried about this. But this one crossed someone’s path and nothing more. Otherwise, I continued to “earn” it. And his theft has nothing to do with it.

[Mishka78]

Quote: ZhEK-Vodogrey

Deputy Minister of Defense after all. The position obliges.

Exactly. Dig ANYONE there. And you will find everything exactly the same. At 100%. There are no exceptions.
I don’t know who devoured this particular Ivanov. I suspect that they are digging under Shoigu. I suspect that the duo is a former security guard and the father of a talented young man who has recently received many awards and accolades. Perhaps, somewhere on the periphery, General Armageddets is still running through, who, according to rumors, is being returned to the handshake pool right now..

[Xnumx vis]

Quote: Nexcom

Well, now, as usual, evidence of moral decay, materialism, the amount of money, cars, apartment houses and other things will begin to emerge... However, I would be surprised if nothing like this was found on Ivanov.....

Ay, ya yay... Oh, yo yo.... And no one knew or knew anything about this? And who brought him closer and placed him in this wonderfully profitable position? Who brought it closer and promoted it? There is such a profession as robbing the Motherland.... If these people had honor, the honor of a Russian officer... Then all the media would be full of obituaries.

[Nexcom]

How come no one knew? The war wife leaked everything on social networks, all the photos - where they went, what they spent their holidays on, what decorations they had in their houses.....

[fif21]

Quote: Nexcom

The war wife leaked everything on social networks, all the photos - where they went, what they spent their holidays on, what decorations they had in their houses.....

Wow! There are richer people, super thief But they sit quietly, and these characters have forgotten that they live among envious people. Many officials have wives and mistresses And I can imagine how they “saw” them when Manka is allowed, but Nyurka is not allowed Vasilyeva, Ivanov, who is next for the bread position? Which clan will imprison its man? And about the “owner” of the house, did Ivanov’s driver himself say that the house was registered to him or did he lie?

[FoBoss_VM]

And I'll tell you who. Shoigu S.K. personally pulled his ears all these years. And I’m sure that the time will come and he himself will also sit behind bars and we will read about the huge assets of the plywood duke’s clan

[Nexcom]

and we will read about the huge assets of the clan of the plywood duke

if we live...

[fif21]

Quote: Nexcom

if we live...

Even if we don’t live, no one has canceled the cycle of money in nature! While they are stealing in power, if they lose it, they will squeeze everything out (friends, buddies). An example is the former Prosecutor General Chaika, who complained to the darkest that his Armenian friends were squeezing out their business. And their children, assigned to bread-earning positions, fly out after their parents. I am not gloating; they themselves created such a life in Russia.

[Sotskiy]

Quote: 30 vis

Ay, ya yay... Oh, yo yo.... And no one knew or knew anything about this?

Certainly. This is not accepted in the caste of “unfits”; etiquette, you know, does not allow you to look into someone else’s wallet.
Previously, the bosses of such deputies at least resigned, but the “dark” times have passed and it is customary not to rock the “boat”.

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: Sovetskiy

Previously, the bosses of such deputies at least resigned, but the “dark” times have passed and it is customary not to rock the “boat”.

For example, I know that the person responsible for the material support of the functionality of my administrative building buys cigarettes with my money (smokes inexpensive ones) and every day has a set lunch in the cafeteria across the street (modestly, no frills). "A little remains..." (c)
There are many ways to check your personal and business expenses. But in the five years that he's been working for me, I've NEVER heard from the office people that they don't have printer paper or that the cleaners are out of detergent.

His cigarettes won’t make me poorer, and he does his job well. So let him smoke free cigarettes. When his car is three times more expensive than mine, the general director’s, and his house is three times more expensive than mine, then I’ll take him “for the zebras.”
The most interesting thing is that he knows that I know about his cigarettes. That’s why he tries to do his job even better and doesn’t steal too much.

Why am I talking about my supplier?
What I mean by all this is that it doesn’t happen that huge amounts of money pass through your hands and nothing sticks. But when there is no sense of proportion, when greyhounds begin to fight, then this rope stops curling.
One thing is bad - my supplier knows what will happen to him if he starts grabbing pieces with his mouth and seat. And these “car stealers” get off with a slight fright.

I heard that in ancient Rome there was a custom of covering a judge’s chair with the skin of his predecessor, who was executed for corruption.
I don’t know how true this story is, but in such a “grain” position as this deputy Shoigu, this method, I think, would work perfectly.

[Sotskiy]

Quote: Zoldat_A

For example, I know that the person responsible for the material support of the functionality of my administrative building buys cigarettes with my money (smokes inexpensive ones) and every day has a set lunch in the cafeteria across the street (modestly, no frills)

This is the problem with capitalism and private property in particular.
If you, as a private owner, allow your employee to “walk” on funds not provided for under the contract, although not large, then this is your personal choice.
Another thing is public property. The state is, first of all, a social contract, including the distribution of state (public) resources. If it is violated, the state will not live long in such a formation.
So the problem is that after the bourgeois coup of the 90s, those who seized power decided that the state is their personal property and allow their subordinates to “feed well” at public expense, considering it theirs.

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: Sovetskiy

the problem is that after the bourgeois coup of the 90s, those who seized power decided that the state is their personal property and allow their subordinates to “modestly feed” at public expense, considering it theirs.

You absolutely got the idea of ​​what I wanted to say. My office, my supplier and my money are my business.
But public service means public money, and if my supplier and I have been living under some kind of unspoken agreement for five years, then a person in public office should be imprisoned in a prison camp in Mordovia for the same thing. Happily ever after, as best he can.

[carpenter]

Quote: 30 vis

If these people had honor, the honor of a Russian officer... Then all the media would be full of obituaries.

Yes, Ivanov, like Serdyukov, did not even serve as privates and he was not an officer, they are only military officials of the highest rank. Therefore, there is no honor, you can steal, which is what they did.

[Abrosimov Sergey Olegovich]

However, he has shoulder straps with general stars on his shoulders... And these shoulder straps and such stars oblige him to something... Maybe it would be right if a pistol with one cartridge appeared in his cell - to give him a chance to preserve his honor and dignity?

[paul3390]

I think this is a signal to whoever needs it. How was it before? The main thing is to share what was stolen with someone, and everything is fine. The very task you are assigned to can be neglected. But in conditions of war and blockade, this is definitely not possible, even our thief got it. Now - you can only steal if you have completed what was assigned. Let's say they gave 10 million for the construction of a road. Here are 2 of them - you can master them in your pocket. But be so kind as to imagine the road, and built as it should be. That is, now, in addition to stealing, you also have to work. It’s not the top ones who suddenly became so good, life forces them, I mean, blessed Western sanctions.

But some do not understand the current moment. But rather, they are simply unable to do anything useful, because they simply don’t know how. And these are probably the majority. Here's a signal to them - either urgently learn and adapt to the demands of the time, or... Well, you get the idea.

The truth is, I personally think it’s pointless. You can't wash a black dog white. Well, nothing good will come out of pathological thieves and mediocrities. Okay, we'll see...

[Gardamir]

You judge by their uniform, but they are not even military. Kind of civilian.

[AdAstra]

No, civil government service. Civilian employees in the Moscow Region have a minimum wage of minus 13% "at hand".

[January]

Quote: Nexcom

Evidence of moral decay, materialism, the amount of money, cars, apartment houses and other things will begin to emerge...

I don’t understand anything else... A month ago, no one even suspected the obviously “unearned income” of a civil servant, or until the tsar pointed his finger at you, is everything possible? After all, a year or five ago it was obvious that gr. Ivanov “lives directly.” Maybe the main complaints should be made not to him, but to the regulatory authorities? Charge them with inaction, or even complicity in theft....

[FoBoss_VM]

Yes, I beg you...))) everyone knows everything. Who is supposed to... They just don’t touch the face without a command. Now we just need to throw a sugar bone at the electorate, feed the poorest and most shabby to society. So Ivanov fell into it like chickens into cabbage soup. They need to pretend to be playing a game of fighting corruption.

[Nastia makarova]

this has always been the case. all history and in all countries))))

[2 Level Advisor]

Quote: Nastia Makarova

this has always been the case. all history and in all countries))))

Well, give examples of deputy ministers of the Moscow Region with foreign wives, embezzlement and regular travel to the “enemy camp”, and property thousands of times more than their salary - in all other countries... however, at least five cases...

[Nastia makarova]

starting with kings and feudal lords, sultans and to this day

[YanniKounnar]

Giscard et les "diamants de Bokassa" ?
Mitterrand et sa fille et femme illégitime logées aux frais de l'état Français ?
Fumio Kishida? Au Japon
Plus loin dans l'histoire Nicolas Fouquet prison à vie et comme "par hasard" meurt curieusement lorsqu'il aurait pu être libéré ...


Giscard and "Bokassa's diamonds"?
Do Mitterrand and his illegitimate daughter and wife live at the expense of the French state?
Fumio Kishida? in Japan
Later in the story, Nicolas Fouquet ends up in life imprisonment and, oddly enough, “accidentally” dies when he could have been released...

[Xnumx vis]

Quote from: FoBoss_VM

Yes, I beg you...))) everyone knows everything. Who is supposed to... They just don’t touch the face without a command. Now we just need to throw a sugar bone at the electorate, feed the poorest and most shabby to society. So Ivanov fell into it like chickens into cabbage soup. They need to pretend to be playing a game of fighting corruption.

Maybe so . But I'm sure otherwise... Now there will be an inauguration. Then approval of the list of ministers.... And someone needs to be besieged, so to speak... Show the black mark.

[Perun61]

Quote: ian

A month ago, no one even suspected the obviously “unearned income” of a civil servant, or until the tsar pointed his finger at you, is everything possible? After all, a year or five ago it was obvious that gr. Ivanov “lives directly.”

The same story will repeat itself in N years, when they decide to imprison his boss. Now everyone also sees that they also live directly, that the entire ministry has rotted from corruption, but everyone is silent, pretending that everything is in order, so as not to be the first to sit down. And then: “Oh God, he’s stealing, who would have thought!”

[Sergey Aleksandrovich]

Don’t worry so much about our entire ministry. Ours will still give yours a light. Today you have arrived again at the Burshtyn Thermal Power Plant.

[Pavel_Sveshnikov]

These regulatory authorities said that they had been guiding their comrade for 5 years. They didn’t even hesitate to say this. That is, he stole for 5 years under their supervision, and they watched. You might think they were waiting for him to steal more so that they could confiscate everything. But for me it’s just that my friend’s roof was such that you couldn’t do anything with him. And there is an absolute majority of people like him in power. Therefore, they are not particularly shy.

[Sergey Aleksandrovich]

This is a feature of their work. Here the case in the USSR regarding the so-called poisoning doctors is indicative. Complaints were collected for several years before arrests began.

[Polite Moose]

Quote: ian

Charge them with inaction, or even complicity in theft....

Well, what are you talking about?! What kind of inaction is there? We were just waiting for it to “get fat.”

[Letun]

I read all this news about Ivanov, and I get the impression that he has been stealing all these years while living in a vacuum. His subordinates are in no way involved, and his superiors are not to blame for anything. Just such an exceptional, shameful case...

[fruc]

In the military department, we recall, Ivanov was responsible for issues of construction, housing, and medical care.

We should send this Mr. Ivanov to live in a godforsaken military town, where imported water and electricity are not always available, so that he can warm up in the morning with a hatchet and firewood, let him sit on his bunk.

[Sergey Aleksandrovich]

This is roughly what they did with Churbanov and Ivanov in the late USSR.

[Msi]

But Ivanov’s child has an apartment in Mexico with a total area of ​​350 square meters.

Yeah. This is where the seizure of children's property comes from. It's clear. I wonder what the total amount of property is...

[Nexcom]

in the USSR, for such a scale of theft, he would simply be shot with confiscation of all property and funds in favor of the state.....

[Dutchman Michel]

he would simply be shot and all his property would be confiscated

The liberals will throw slippers at you for such words!

[Nexcom]

The liberals will throw slippers at you for such words!

Well, what can you do.... I'm ready to suffer for a just cause.

[Sergey Aleksandrovich]

I’m not even a liberal at all, but I can’t agree. In the late USSR, special officers worked poorly, I would even say, extremely poorly. We defined a narrow range of questions for ourselves and missed the forest for the trees. For example, they overlooked hazing, the Caucasian and Central Asian communities, did not control clothing and nutrition, and did not monitor medicine. A lot of things were not taken into account, but should have been.

[fif21]

Quote: Nexcom

in the USSR, for such a scale of theft, he would simply be shot with confiscation of all property and funds in favor of the state.....

That’s why there is no USSR; theft in a capitalist country is the norm of life. And there is no execution, who shoots their own kind?

[Sergey Aleksandrovich]

In the USSR, deputies of the Defense Ministry were not held accountable, although the situation with clothing allowances and food for conscripts was simply abysmal, as, to be fair, in the 90s. Then Pavel Grachev was awarded the title of Hero of the USSR.

[oleg-nekrasov-19]

Quote: oleg-nekrasov-19

The arrested Deputy Minister of Defense of the Russian Federation previously purchased a house with an area of ​​1500 square meters and bought expensive cars

Still couldn't get enough

[Nexcom]

But they all can’t get drunk (those who steal). Apparently they hope that they will be able to pay off or have time to escape, like Chubais. Although even if simple colonels manage to steal lards.....

[your1970]

But they all can’t get drunk (those who steal). thieves and prostitutes rarely stop engaging in their activities. For the most part, these are external factors - arrests, illnesses, etc. The money comes too easily...

[oleg-nekrasov-19]

but it seems to me that upbringing, social environment and maybe a little origin (what social stratum your family is from) play a large role. That’s why “ordinary colonels” manage to steal lard, although they are not entirely simple, you know, colonel and colonel are different. There are field and combat officers, and there are officers for whom service to the Fatherland comes last, and personal income comes first, in the field and you won’t see such people in battle.

[Msi]

social environment and maybe a little background (what social class is your family from?

Are you promoting the theory that “nobles” steal less?

[Msi]

if mom and dad were hucksters

Colonel Zakharchenko. Huge sums were involved. I studied well.
Mom is a mathematician (teacher). I regularly counted banknotes and wrote them down in a notebook.
Something took you in the wrong direction, your theory is collapsing...

[your1970]

We will look at the results - how much they will give...

[Nexcom]

They'll give you 15 years. He will serve half of it in a special paid house. Then they will most likely give amnesty.....

[your1970]

If 15 - then obviously more than half. There is usually 2/3 of the sentence if more than 10 years.
And amnesty usually does not apply to particularly serious cases. Hodor didn’t get amnesty with his 10

[Kosta153]

Or he’ll get sick... I’m leaving the camps based on my registration and doctors’ permit...

[Nexcom]

Yes, by the way.... He may “suddenly get sick and die” (c) or “suddenly realize the gravity of what he has done and commit suicide” (c) ...

[carpenter]

Quote: Nexcom

They'll give you 15 years. He will serve half of it in a special paid house. Then they will most likely give amnesty.....

If they give him 5 years, then that’s good; in a year he’ll be released because everyone will forget about him.

[Gardamir]

two billion and go free with a clean wallet.

[your1970]

two billion and go free with a clean wallet. - wait and see. But the fact that everything will be shaken clean out of your wallet is certain...

[Vladimir Vladimirovich Vorontsov]

“But it is not clear to whom this house is registered” -

“But this absolutely should not happen when the property - a house, a factory, a port - belongs to someone unknown...

[Dutchman Michel]

A good keeper of state secrets. The wife has Israeli citizenship, the children live and study abroad. But I wonder where they looked before? Haven't you noticed? Or did he come to work on a wooden scooter? Or by bus?

[Nexcom]

But why take the bus? He is entitled to a company car with a driver according to his status.
Well, if he was stupid, then his driver drove him straight to work in his car.

[Waterways 672]

One can recall how Yeltsin fought against the privileges of the Soviet party apparatus. They showed on TV how he goes to work on a trolleybus, and Naina stands in line for sausage. They cleverly hung noodles on our ears. This company came to power and where did all this struggle go, they are dragging everything that is not nailed down.

[alystan]

But I wonder where they looked before? Haven't you noticed?

Ministers and deputy ministers are appointed by Decree of the President of the Russian Federation.
Therefore, the question is very difficult.
This means that the enemy is in charge of personnel issues in the Administration.

[Revolver]

[AdAstra]

And why is all this being written now? This was unknown before; did he do it all secretly under the cover of darkness? Or, as a civil servant, he had no obligation to report his income and movable and immovable property, as well as his wife and children?

[Gardamir]

It looks like there are problems with the bread, but you can organize as many spectacles as you like.

[AdAstra]

Looks like it."""""

[rotmistr60]

purchased a house with an area of ​​1500 square meters

How many servants did he need for such a house? The craving for luxury was what ruined the general - he couldn’t stop in time and was too sure that he was “untouchable.”

[Julian_B]

In addition to the share in the apartment of 44.2 sq.m., it probably also has a “Skif” car trailer, manufactured in 1987.

[Anatoly Shpalin]

Of course, he is the only one like this in the entire Moscow Region, but in our country all the security forces and army men are ascetic monks and penniless beggars who live with thoughts of their homeland and the Holy Spirit.

[Luenkov]

Even the heads of financial corporations do not behave this way... Cattle in uniform. And not noticeable at all? Podolyaka Yuri says that no one wants to say a positive word for him, this hero in uniform.

[75 Sergey]

But someone was dragging him, and the question is - why?
It is necessary to carry out cleanings of all structures, but there are so many of them....

[glock-17]

Prigogine was right when he spoke about hedonism at the top of power. It seems that the philosophy of Stoicism has become a relic of the past in the army as well.

[phrases]

For five years, they say, they grazed Mister General. And he calmly bought property over the hill and a Lamborghini. No one touched the covetous man, although the enemy Forbes solemnly included him in the list of the rich and famous back in 19, and, moreover, promoted him. And how many such patriots are left there..., please announce the entire long list.

[your1970]

For five years, they say, they grazed Mister General. And he calmly bought property over the hill and a Lamborghini. evidence, alas, is needed.
It was only Rokossovsky and Korolev who could have broken their ribs and not been allowed to sleep - so that they would confess. And even that didn’t really help - the strong ones got caught.
And now democracy. Like....
And 3 lawyers...

[ALARI]

Half the ear would have been cut off - he would have confessed how cute he was.

[vostok68]

There was no order to take it, but why don’t you ask, I don’t know

[Luenkov]

Quote: Julian_B

In addition to the share in the apartment of 44.2 sq.m., it probably also has a “Skif” car trailer, manufactured in 1987.

And he has a 36 sq.m kitchen and a garden with sculptures. In one, with a basket, there are semi-precious stones from Altai. Three toilets... Pond and crucian carp Igor...

[Vadim S]

And how many other poor officials are like that, supposedly sitting around snoring and getting rich!

[U-58]

But I don’t want to keep up with everyone and ask myself a different question.
And what property do OTHER deputy ministers of defense who serve and are not currently involved in the development of “competent authorities” own?
And not only the Ministry of Defense, but also others.
How are things going with the property of lower-ranking generals? And what about this in other civilian leadership structures?
A free (from conscience) market, freedom of enterprise in the context of a character’s high position - isn’t this the ground for unbridled greed by far from needy individuals!

[Egg]

Quote: U-58

And what property do OTHER deputy ministers of defense who serve and are not currently involved in the development of “competent authorities” own?

But there was no need to argue with the GRU officers, he found someone to butt heads with, a builder against intelligence and special forces.... stupid person...

[U-58]

That is, it’s all about cursing and displeasure with the powers that be?
And if not for this, would you live in grand style?
But what about legality, civil (and officer) honor, conscience?
What kind of state have we built?
Rob slowly while you are in power and don’t show off.
"Take it, you fool, there won't be tomorrow..."

[Egg]

Quote: U-58

What kind of state have we built?

This is the kind of state... although this is the case all over the world, the king is made by his retinue and this retinue is inviolable, otherwise there will be no king, just come to terms with it

[your1970]

But what about legality, civil (and officer) honor, conscience?
During the Second World War, out of 56 generals who were shot, about 10 were shot for embezzlement.
And this taking into account the fact that EVERYTHING They knew that for this they would be slapped within the framework of the military legal proceedings - and the tower is guaranteed. Each of them knew that there were already 1-2-3 before him....- shot

[Luenkov]

Quote: Dutchman Michel

A good keeper of state secrets. The wife has Israeli citizenship, the children live and study abroad. But I wonder where they looked before? Haven't you noticed? Or did he come to work on a wooden scooter? Or by bus?

No one noticed him because he was Seryozha’s friend. And Seryozha has glasses!@@

[75 Sergey]

Or maybe we should go through all the deputies and non-deputies, in different structures?!
I just imagined how many this is, it’s simply terrifying!
Each “village” has a set of ministries, why is this ready-made solution necessary for an individual state?

[U-58]

It seems that this arrest was made as a warning to other sensualists.
Like, look at me, I have lop ears!
And these “others” are legion.

[Ghost1]

The saddest thing is that for some reason there are still so many of these people who have not yet been reached. They all do not hide their wealth and most often all live in one elite place. How much money goes into the pockets of such people could solve many social problems of ordinary people.

[Nastia makarova]

and who and when thought about ordinary people?

[Egoza]

Quote: Nastia Makarova

and who and when thought about ordinary people?

I.V. STALIN!

[tatarin1972]

, discovered America. Most officials do not live according to their income, but the FSB turns a blind eye to this until the guarantor of the constitution gives a kick in the ass and asks - Where are the landings?

[opposite28]

In 2016, it follows from the declaration, the family owned nine vehicles, in 2019 – already twelve vehicles. Among them is the rare ZiS-110 limousine, which costs about 15 million rubles. Ivanov’s ex-wife owns a Bentley Continental, Aston Martin, Hummer H2 and 2 Harley-Davidson motorcycles.

It would be better if the Lada Vesta was driven in a station wagon, insurance under MTPL is cheaper. Naughty guy.

[ivan2022]

Ivanov was deputy before the government of the Moscow region during the governorship of Shoigu. This means that later in 2016 it was Kodzhugetych who took him as deputy in the Moscow Region.
It turns out that the blow was below the belt specifically for Kodzhugetych.

He's staggering, he's not standing strong!
Prigozhin beat, beat, didn’t break, but he himself crashed, but now who and for what? I sense difficult times are coming...... if the strongest are tottering.

[T-100]

Well, this is all about the question of how the Ministry of Internal Affairs (hello OBEPiPK) and the FSB work. For so many years the person lived beyond his means (I’m sure he filled out the declaration), questions have arisen now. The conclusion, as for many sober people, was to cross someone’s path, and he would have continued to live, but if it was time for an honorable pension, then they would have allowed their own people to leave the country quietly and only then would they have opened a criminal case.

[Ivan№One]

Only questions for them? Seriously?
Without permission from the very top, will someone touch such a person?
There are no questions for Shuiga, for example?
Didn't know anything?

[T-100]

that ITS They would have allowed me to leave the country calmly and only then would they have opened a criminal case.

With this word I said everything.

[reaper]

Curious why it was removed. Is there a new redistribution of enrichment channels underway? Got it in your throat?
Be that as it may, ordinary people, through SMS and transfers, raise funds for our units for drones, armored vehicles, walkie-talkies and night vision devices with uniforms. But all you need to do is dispossess a couple of generals and the problems will diminish.
In the West, with these lards of aid to the Ukrainians, are they also stealing?

[Sergey Aleksandrovich]

Where should a wealthy person go? In Russia, utopian socialists under the flags of Navalny are looking for property. In the Wild West, in an equally wild way, everything acquired by back-breaking labor can be capitalized in one moment. There are so many bohemians gathered in Dubai that it is impossible to hide, to hide.
That leaves Mexico...since in Argentina the "Soros" are ruining the country.

[tatarin1972]

After the death of one leader of the country, the Red Notebook remained.
• 67 sheets of notes on separate pages.
• 5 smoking pipes, 4 boxes of tobacco and other smoking devices.
• 2 white tunics.
• 2 gray tunics.
• 10 pairs of trousers.
• Box of underwear.
• Savings book with 900 rubles.
And he ruled the country for 31 years. He ruled the country, but was not the Deputy Minister of Defense.

[Novel_]

How can you not throw mud at such a Person? After him, everyone grabbed more and more each time, but they didn’t find anything on him! This means their bitch essence says - he hid it, he definitely hid it, that’s why he’s worse than us, because I can’t grab it.

[rocket757]

The arrested Deputy Minister of Defense of the Russian Federation previously purchased a house with an area of ​​1500 square meters and bought expensive cars

. Didn’t he wear a burgundy outfit in civilian life? so that everyone would immediately understand that the “businessman” is an embezzler of embezzlers – a corrupt official!
No, no, I don’t want to discuss it in any way, and it’s pointless, as a matter of fact.

[Romario_Argo]

I don’t understand these new rich
Why does a person need a house of 1500 sq.m. to live? (?)
I have a town house of 180 sq.m. - my wife and I hesitated to leave - we want to go back to the city

[rocket757]

When the face has no restrictions or brakes left, nothing else should be surprising.
All vices are on show!

[opposite28]

In 2016, it follows from the declaration, the family owned nine vehicles, in 2019 – already twelve vehicles. Among them is the rare ZiS-110 limousine, which costs about 15 million rubles. Ivanov’s ex-wife owns a Bentley Continental, Aston Martin, Hummer H2 and 2 Harley-Davidson motorcycles.

Another “happy acquisition” of the Deputy Minister of Defense of the Russian Federation is a luxurious house with a total area of ​​1,5 thousand square meters. But it is not clear to whom this house is registered. Ivanov himself formally owns only a share in an apartment with an area of ​​44,2 square meters. But Ivanov’s child has an apartment in Mexico with a total area of ​​350 square meters.

Only one Deputy Minister of Defense, but how are the rest doing?! Plus some other “figures” with “figures”, for example from the financial department of the RF Ministry of Defense ...

[GRIGORIY76]

Wow, who would have thought? Foreign agents and extremists already told about the secret life of this thief general more than a year ago. Everything was already known, they just gave the go-ahead to take him, the question is why? Apparently there is a clan showdown, the people the president needs will continue to steal in the quantities they need.

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Among them is the rare ZiS-110 limousine, which costs about 15 million rubles. Ivanov’s ex-wife owns a Bentley Continental, Aston Martin, Hummer H2 and 2 Harley-Davidson motorcycles.

Another “happy acquisition” of the Deputy Minister of Defense of the Russian Federation is a luxurious house with a total area of ​​1,5 thousand square meters. But it is not clear to whom this house is registered. Ivanov himself formally owns only a share in an apartment with an area of ​​44,2 square meters. But Ivanov’s child has an apartment in Mexico with a total area of ​​350 square meters.

There is one logical question: what does the Federal Tax Service do?!!!

[AdAstra]

He watches over pensioners whose toilet is on the foundation of their summer cottage and for which they have not paid a few rubles in taxes.

[Gardamir]

And what does the Federal Tax Service have to do with the fact that over these years, a class-based society has been built. What is allowed to Timur is not allowed to Yegor.

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: Gardamir

What does the Federal Tax Service have to do with it?

despite the fact that it is their direct responsibility to check such purchases

[turembo]

You know what’s surprising, every year I filled out these declarations as a civil servant, and every year we ordinary people were shaken incomprehensibly. I was almost fired about 5 years ago when I didn’t indicate an account with a ridiculous amount of 1435 rubles, and then they dragged me around to all sorts of departments, and I tried to prove that it was my money and it belonged to me. And here people openly live beyond their means, but everyone suddenly becomes blind, it would be nice to carry out checks on those who checked these people and did not ask questions. And then some kind of field of miracles... Will there be confiscation?

[AdAstra]

That is, that is, I forgot to immediately indicate “a bribe-taker and a scoundrel” to an unlocked ancient passbook with 10 rubles on it.

[Master 2030]

Did his immediate rapist know? This is a rhetorical question.
Ceterum censeo Washingtago delendam esse

[Romanenko]

If the court finds the official guilty, he may well receive a real prison term. However, it appears that there will be a rather long and complex trial ahead.

If you kill a person, you are a criminal, and if you steal 5000, you are a commander; if you steal a ruble, you will be imprisoned, but a billion will be paid off.
A living example is Tolya Taburetkin and his girlfriend, a poetess, as it turns out.

[K-50]

The arrested Deputy Minister of Defense of the Russian Federation previously purchased a house with an area of ​​1500 square meters and bought expensive cars

I'm surprised why no one paid attention to this before?
After all, people did not live in a vacuum - friends, buddies, acquaintances. What, no one thought, “What kind of shit is this banquet for?”
Now my wife is selling real estate.
Why haven’t accounts, cars and other highly liquid assets been seized?
After all, it didn’t come at the behest of a pike, these are people’s taxes!!! And they must return to the budget!!!
I saw the video not long ago; the banker who beat Putin’s son-in-law was gutted and sent to prison.
I’m far from wondering what would have happened if, instead of a relative of the president, there had been an ordinary citizen. But it’s okay, the banker could have gotten away with it.
We already have an untouchable caste, like in India. Only there they are “at the bottom of the market”, and here we have the “elite”.

[Romanenko]

It’s very interesting, in this regard, the FES justified themselves; they reported that for as many as 5 years they had been closely monitoring how Timur was decomposing, They counted every stolen penny, and now, when all this had already accumulated beyond the digit of the calculator scale on which they were counting, they decided to arrest him .
At the same time, this kind of nonsense slips through - “if the court establishes the guilt of the official...”
What if there is not enough, or is there a negotiation on the amount of kickback for reducing the term?
Or maybe he’ll even declare himself a fool, like Taburetkin, but we have no demand for fools and will go for a promotion to another authority?
Isn't it time to shoot?

[Ivan№One]

Why didn't they apply?
Some bloggers wrote about him and about his supposedly foreign ex-wife (fictitious divorce)
Ukrainian Shariy, for example.
They just didn't print it here
Apparently they were afraid

[Knight_of_Sad_Image]

Yes, the problem still faces a fan of the philosopher Solovyov... To remove the plywood marshal, which is logical, means admitting that Strelkov and Prigozhin are right. Leaving the plywood marshal at the feeder is a violation of all laws of logic. True, these laws are now irrelevant and no one will even notice their violation.

[Ivan№One]

Logic doesn't matter when political expediency is at stake

[VasAndr]

This week, Deputy Defense Minister Timur Ivanov was detained and then arrested. The same one whom the late Yevgeny Prigozhin repeatedly called “embezzler.” And the famous politician Oleg Tsarev commented on this event:

“An amazing person. With his arrest he gave so many people a holiday. It’s also surprising because none of his acquaintances said anything good about him in behind-the-scenes conversations... At the front they rejoice, as if they had taken a large populated area.”

First, a biographical note: Timur Ivanov is a typical boss in the “new, democratic” Russia. Born in 1975 in Moscow, and from the age of 22 he held various leadership positions in commercial organizations. Including in 2012, he was Deputy Chairman of the Government of the Moscow Region, when Sergei Shoigu was the governor of this region.

After Shoigu was appointed Minister of Defense, Timur Ivanov became the general director of JSC Oboronstroy, which was under the control of the Russian Defense Ministry. The company's main activity: construction of housing for military personnel, as well as socially significant and strategic military facilities.

Timur Ivanov has long been listed among the richest security officials in the Russian Federation. According to the tax return for 2019, Ivanov’s income amounted to 14,5 million rubles. In addition, he owned three apartments, a house and a plot of land with a total area of ​​over 12 thousand square meters. meters. He owned 12 vehicles.

But it’s not even about these official data. The Deputy Minister of Defense and his wife, socialite Svetlana Ivanova (Zakharova, née Maniovich, an Israeli citizen) have never been shy about showing off their luxurious life. The media have repeatedly talked about their holidays on huge yachts, on the Cote d'Azur, diamonds and parties worth tens of millions of rubles. Therefore, one of the famous political scientists reacted to Ivanov’s arrest simply:

“The man was let down by his wife - she loved to hang out in Courchevel.”

Alexey Alyokin

[opposite28]

[megadeth]

If the court finds the official guilty, he may well receive a real prison sentence

Not an officer or a comrade for five years in the FSB’s development, taken and dragged to court in the uniform of an army general (apparently before or immediately after the board of the Ministry of Defense they were taken), I’m sure there is already more than one article with serving. IMHO

[north 2]

and what shame should a lover of biathlons and parades now have in front of the colonels and generals currently fighting in the area of ​​operation of the Northern Military District!!! After all, his most direct subordinate was fattening while they risked their lives and gave their lives for their Motherland!
By the way, so that a corrupt army general in such positions would not have first access to state secrets, there’s no need for that kind of blah blah! And there the whole Eighth Special Department of the Moscow Region should know everything about such people. And you didn’t see anything, didn’t observe, didn’t notice?

[ivan2022]

Apparently changes are coming,if Kodzhugetich is staggering and does not protect his own. It wasn't like this before.

Previously, Gurulev spoke about 1,5 million body armor.
If each person is 300 thousand, then the amount is half a trillion! And it’s like nothing...Even this on our scale today—dust in space..

And here.... eklmn.... it’s just a mansion and what, in jail? Who doesn't have this? It’s not for nothing that Peskov said that he doesn’t know about the mansion, because journalists write that they are neighbors..

[your1970]

Previously, Gurulev spoke about 1,5 million body armor.
If each person is 300 thousand, then the amount is half a trillion! And it’s like nothing. It’s strange to me that he talked, but didn’t write a statement to the Prosecutor General’s Office. That is, I was able to speak, but I couldn’t write a paper...

[Ivan№One]

Aren’t you ashamed in front of privates and sergeants?

[north 2]

Yes, you should be ashamed in front of everyone. And before the soldiers and before the sergeants and before all the officers and before all decent civilians.

[your1970]

corrupt army general not a general but a civil servant - that’s more accurate.

[al3x]

They just leaked one of their own. For what reason we will never know.

[nokki]

“Truly, the love of money is the most terrible of all passions. Hence the tomb robbers, hence the murderers, hence the wars and battles, hence every evil you name. And such a person <the lover of money> is useless everywhere, whether he happens to command an army or govern a people ... Then a person dies to virtues, indulges in lies, deceit, cruelty, in a word, all vices, and falls into complete destruction, becoming a vessel of the devil. The root of all evil is the love of money, as containing within itself the cause and reason for all sins. .." (St. Ignatius Brianchaninov, 39, 145)

[Sergey Aleksandrovich]

This is, of course, true, but not the whole truth. To live, as they say, is good, but to live well is even better.
The point is that profits and rewards should accompany successes, not failures, and not be detrimental to defense capability.
I'm tired of the double standards too. When many retired military personnel buy foreign cars, and foam at the mouth, they deplore domestic cars. This is also, you know, patriotism with a hint of flavor. In our city, ethnic Ukrainians and those who worked for companies with Ukrainian owners purchased ZAZ Sens, Chevrolet Lanos and Cruz, almost without exception. I would like to note that the Ukrainian nationalist was therefore a great patriot of his country in recent times.

[singless]

Maybe he has such a hobby. Some brand badges are collected and he has houses and expensive cars.

[Mishka78]

So all the bureaucrats visited him in these houses and his palaces.
And this is how it turned out... The snake was warmed up, it turns out. A thief and a bribe-taker.
What did they think when they walked in his mansion and drank to the point of amazement? That their friend Timur bought this mansion with the deputy minister’s salary, well, maybe he took out a family mortgage for 20 years, fortunately the leader of the nation made low rates, again, Timurka has 5 children from 3 wives, receives good social payments, a preferential mortgage for many children.
And this is how it turned out. Journalists just assumed and conducted an investigation 3 days ago that his salary is not enough to buy mansions worth billions. Even with social payments and benefits.
But how can you guess, without investigation...

And Navalny published all sorts of things about this several years ago - well, that’s Navalny. He’s an infidel, the State Department, a scoundrel, and all that jazz..

[Ivan№One]

This gentleman with Shoigu, from the time of that governor of Moscow
And the boss didn’t know who he had warmed to his chest
The next one who was deceived?

[Million]

But Shoigu seemed not to be aware of the matter.
Or did Ivanov simply not share?

[opuonmed]

Didn’t the tax office see that the person was living beyond his means? and other structures!

[nordscout]

Service in the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation, next to the “royal persons”, has become a good business, especially if one’s “eyes are filled with strings” on conscience, decency, devotion to the flag and the cause... In petty-bourgeois Russia, in any environment, even in the military, As a rule, those who serve the Motherland are those who are in the trenches, at the controls of planes and tanks, at the controls of air defense systems... And in the “Arbat Military District” the views on life are slightly different, well “fixed” by the years of building domestic capitalism and the main “business quality” "The officer planned to serve in the capital city of Moscow had family and friendly ties with the Defense Ministry and the General Staff. Moscow Region and, of course, capital registration.... These are the “peppers” in the command structures of the RF Ministry of Defense seriously discrediting the RF Armed Forces and the Supreme Commander-in-Chief in the eyes of the Army and Navy and Russia in general... I wouldn’t be surprised if this general is a businessman they will try to “excuse” themselves from the “zone” in the form of “8 years probation” (this “option” has already been “tested” in domestic law enforcement practice) or with a minimum period of “imprisonment”, followed by parole in a couple of years.... In the end - after all, this is not a “mere mortal” or a homeless person from the regional center, but a new domestic boyar...

[Radical]

Quote: Dutchman Michel

A good keeper of state secrets. The wife has Israeli citizenship, the children live and study abroad...

And how many similar carriers of state secrets have fled over the hill, and without hindrance. Chubais alone is worth...

[Mint Gingerbread]

I think there are many more people like him in Russia, there is no need to doubt it. Hypocritical, greedy people in various structures. This has not been surprising for a long time.
Another thing is interesting. Will they be able to get away with it, or will the system crush you? Who will bend? It’s worth watching how the process goes.

[Novel_]

I walk around the city - posters are everywhere, they call to defend the Motherland, they say their own, there are heroes! I go on the Internet, and the news says that there are people at the front, but they are leading/supplying, etc. not their own. How so?
The red lines they draw are not yours, but the result is farting in a puddle. And THEIR Heroes have to correct the hands-on behavior of the red line drawers.
People collect HUMANITARIAN aid for the fighters!!!, but the “officials” turn out to be stealing, so it doesn’t affect the combat effectiveness of the army at all... not at all - there’s nothing, everything was slightly stolen. Thank you that there was only one such “official” and they were watching him... I believe that the rest are crystal clear and the Heroes defending the Motherland will finally receive everything that is due from the Ministry of Defense and it will not be slightly stolen again.

[opposite28]

“You” loved too much to live beautifully beyond your means. By the way, in about 5 years of operational development by T. Ivanov, enough information has been collected. Maybe the true customers and perpetrators of the death of Evgeniy Viktorovich will be clarified in full.

[Esaul]

With the money that just one official stole, it would be possible to install an electronic warfare system on every piece of equipment in the army. Now imagine what could be done with the country if not a single official stole...

[nordscout]

Dear Esaul! Eco, you've had enough! They swung at the “sacred”.... Embezzlement and banal theft on all “floors” - became a domestic “national sport”, something like football.... This is especially “cultivated in the bureaucratic “class”... If you if you don’t steal, then this is very strange, at the level of a medical diagnosis, which can lead to premature retirement or a “click” is assigned to you - “loser” or “loser”....

[al3x]

And don’t tell me that at the very top no one knew anything about his dealings. The command "FAS" was simply given. But we will never know the reason for this command. They all know each other very well there.

[alystan]

For those who haven’t seen his estate on the banks of the Volga in the Tver region, take a look and be surprised (it’s not difficult to find).

It turned out to be (maybe only for now) his most expensive property.

The cost of the estate is about 2 billion rubles.
It has a park, a fountain, four warehouses for furniture and two for food.
In the mansion on the ground floor: a hall for social receptions, a dining room for dinner parties.
On the second: a master bedroom, a 40-meter bathroom, and three dressing rooms...

Now they are raising documentation on all the facilities for the construction of which this would-be deputy minister was responsible.

[Tire fitter]

He is a simple builder, foreman, and civilian. Well, maybe he took a handful of nails to his mother-in-law to fix the fence, but who doesn’t carry it from the construction site. If all the objects entrusted to him were delivered on time and with proper quality, then what kind of complaints could there be against him? We need to start with an inspection of the objects, and not his wife’s underwear

[al3x]

These people should be shot together with their families. What is 8 years to him? All the wealth will still not be confiscated, he will sit in an apartment with all the amenities and drink vodka with the owner, and he will also have access to freedom from time to time, he will go out and get his billions.

[VladimirNET]

Quote: from the title of the article

Deputy Minister of Defense of the Russian Federation purchased a house with an area of ​​1500 square meters

This is a square with a side of 38.7 sq.m, and the width of the five-story building is up to 19 meters. That is, it is a square with a side “2 times the width of a five-story building,” or 4 floors its width...
Roughly: 32 times the size of an apartment in such a building,
or 2 apartment entrances, without two floors in the second entrance.

[PC]

There is treason, meanness and deceit all around. They steal like crazy. They took this Ivanov. What about the rest? Ivanov is the only one like that in the Moscow Region? In the government?

[sanches-nk]

You might think that before no one knew anything about it in the Ministry of Defense, the FSB and other departments who should be directly involved in this.
Another question is what is the reason that he was taken, well, objectively, not for a bribe. Nobody will ever tell us the truth, most likely, and not the essence. Such arrests are not for a bribe, everything is much more serious there. It could be anything, up to direct work for the enemy.

[Skorin]

There is such a profession - to plunder the Motherland!

[A Farewell to Arms.]

The general was clearly thinking differently while listening to the Supreme Commander. about the house by the reservoir. a good general's pension and an immodest bank account with interest...

[Egor53]

I'm interested in whether Shoigu will be considered as a witness or as a suspect in the Ivanov case.....

[kig]

Conclusion: you need to be more modest. Received the money, squeezed it into a tight fist, and sit quietly.

[Krilion]

and don’t say that Shoigu didn’t see this or didn’t know... what a minister, such bastards subordinate to him... eight deputies, no one served in the army for a day, but all of them are fucking generals... there’s even There is no need to carry out any checks or investigations - just take everyone out of the ministry building and put them against the wall...