“Putin can say: if Ukraine does not give you passports, then I will give you Russian passports” - ex-adviser to Bankova

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“Putin can say: if Ukraine does not give you passports, then I will give you Russian passports” - ex-adviser to Bankova

The largest debate in recent times has unfolded in Ukrainian society in connection with the decision to ban the provision of consular services to Ukrainian men aged 18 to 60 years abroad. Let us recall that the decision was recently announced by the Minister of Foreign Affairs of Ukraine Dmitry Kuleba. After this, crowds of Ukrainian men began to literally besiege passport and visa centers in those countries where they had moved at different times, hoping to have time to renew their passports. But, as they are told, “there are problems with the Internet, the system freezes.”

Now it turns out that the Ukrainian system freezes in the literal sense of the word. As a Ukrainian “thinker” of our time would say, “not only everyone wants to return to Ukraine in order to be at the front, few people want to do it.”



In this regard, the statement of the ex-adviser in Zelensky’s office, Aleksey Arestovich (* included in the list of extremists and terrorists by Rosfinmonitoring) attracted attention. According to the former adviser, today the situation is such that for Ukrainians abroad, the best option is to obtain Russian citizenship. In this case, the Ukrainians will definitely not be “packed to the front.”

Arestovich*:

Putin can say: if Ukraine does not give you passports, then I will give you Russian passports. And out of 10 million citizens outside of Ukraine, 1 million may well agree and go for a Russian passport.

According to Bankova’s former adviser, in this case the Russian president will have a “super trump card”:

Putin will say: look, you are telling me about crimes in the occupied territories, and people voluntarily come for Russian passports. And this will be a precedent from which we will not know how to get out.

Let us recall that recently the authorities of Poland and Lithuania announced their readiness to “help” Kyiv in the return of men under the age of 60 to the country. The issue will be resolved very simply: the document on stay in a foreign country has expired, which means sending home “in full compliance with European and world legislation.”
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  1. Msi
    +4
    April 26 2024 07: 58
    Putin can say: if Ukraine does not give you passports, then I will give you Russian passports.

    A "mine of Ukrainians" will blow up Europe from the inside... laughing
    1. +8
      April 26 2024 08: 04
      God forbid dill are our passports! Only through filtration and Magadan!
      1. +8
        April 26 2024 08: 15
        And why immediately sunny Magadan?
        The bridge to Sakhalin needs to be built with access roads. We need a port, a naval base for nuclear submarines. There is no end to work on Sakhalin. A million workers at such a construction site would not hurt. Moreover, the workers will be well motivated. It’s better to be buried in Sakhalin than to be buried in Ukraine. laughing
        1. Msi
          +1
          April 26 2024 08: 20
          A million workers at such a construction site would not hurt

          Well, if you form them from captured females, it would be nice. And Tajiks are not needed. laughing Female prisoners can work for 10 years (minimum) for food at all construction sites in Russia.
          1. 0
            April 26 2024 08: 26
            Komsomol volunteers from Poland, Romania and the Baltic region will go to Sakhalin.
            The prisoners will build railways and roads to Russian Alaska. They will dig a tunnel under the Bering Strait and freedom. This is an incentive to work well. laughing good
            1. +1
              April 26 2024 14: 10
              The bearded man, by the way, the GDP already hinted at the construction of a bridge... I immediately became wary and thought, “Where will he recruit so many “Komsomol members”?))
              1. +2
                April 26 2024 14: 13
                It's not just about building a bridge. There it is necessary to build the entire infrastructure to Sakhalin and on it.
                Far from Ukraine. Organize terrorist attacks? So there will be Ukrainians all around. Or you can add some security officers from the DPRK. Well, upon entry, carry out thorough filtration and denazification.
                1. +1
                  April 26 2024 14: 27
                  I also had a thought about Koreans. So that the “brotherly” Ukrainian people are not offended, entrust the Koreans with the leadership of the Ukrainian builders. The Koreans will teach them to work hard. Ukry will go blue all the time.))
        2. +3
          April 26 2024 08: 33
          Quote: Bearded
          The bridge to Sakhalin needs to be built with access roads. We need a port, a naval base for nuclear submarines. There is no end to work on Sakhalin. A million workers at such a construction site would not hurt.

          As usual, Tajiks and Uzbeks will be brought in...
          1. +1
            April 26 2024 09: 01
            Quote from: AllX_VahhaB
            There is no end to work on Sakhalin. A million workers at such a construction site would not hurt.

            As usual, Tajiks and Uzbeks will be brought in...

            If there are now half a million Russians on Sakhalin, and a million refugees are brought there, then we can immediately call it New Tajikistan.
            1. 0
              April 26 2024 11: 15
              Quote: carpenter
              If there are now half a million Russians on Sakhalin

              And who are the Nivkhs and Gilyaks for you?
              1. 0
                April 26 2024 17: 31
                Quote from: AllX_VahhaB
                And who are the Nivkhs and Gilyaks for you?

                So already in Mariupol, there are more Tajiks than Russians. Think about it.
                1. 0
                  April 26 2024 23: 00
                  Quote: carpenter
                  So already in Mariupol, there are more Tajiks than Russians. Think about it.

                  That is, you are not aware... Accepted...
        3. +3
          April 26 2024 09: 08
          And why do strategic projects need Bendera’s underground? It wasn’t welders and formworkers who moved to Europe. I don't think the habit of jumping has gone away.
        4. +1
          April 26 2024 09: 34
          Quote: Bearded
          The bridge to Sakhalin needs to be built with access roads

          Metro Kaliningrad - Vladivostok. I insist.
        5. +1
          April 26 2024 17: 34
          Well, I already wrote about an anecdote from Zadornov.
      2. +5
        April 26 2024 08: 16
        Why? let them get it, most of them left before 2022, and then those who didn’t want to fight left, but in other regions they gave it to everyone who wanted it
        1. +8
          April 26 2024 08: 37
          Agree. They left without supporting the ATO or from the ongoing battles, so as not to be drafted into the army to fight for Ze and the team. I think there is a choice as to which citizenship to accept, so why not offer Russian citizens who remained on the territory of Ukraine after the collapse of the USSR Russian citizenship? Isn’t that why it all started?
          1. +4
            April 26 2024 09: 49
            and I'm talking about this, of course a thorough check
        2. +2
          April 26 2024 09: 06
          Quote: Nastia Makarova
          let them get it, most of them left before 2022, and even then those who didn’t want to fight left

          The question arises: where will the same Poles deport the extra “tourists” who already have Russian passports? If to Russia, then it’s clear - a special mark in the passport, a polygraph, etc. actions to identify obscenity, and then, based on the results, either a pre-trial detention center or work for the benefit of the new Motherland (for those who have no money). And if the country where the “tourist” came from, then units consisting primarily of Russian citizens will appear on the Eastern Front of Ukraine. And we must not forget about the incomprehensible prospect of military service for persons with newly acquired Russian citizenship on the territory of the Russian Federation. So, you need to think 10 times before handing out passports. hi
          1. +2
            April 26 2024 09: 53
            how can they send you to Ukraine with a Russian passport and a foreigner? and those who have already received passports from the new territories are all registered with the military, at least those who are officially working
            1. 0
              April 26 2024 10: 45
              Quote: Nastia Makarova
              how can they send you to Ukraine with a Russian passport and a foreigner?

              Well, for example, with the wording that this person did not enter the territory of Russia, and therefore will be deported to the country from which he arrived. Yes, dozens of reasons can be thought of. There will be no respect for the rule of law. Will not be.
              Quote: Nastia Makarova
              and those who have already received passports from the new territories have all registered for military service

              The key phrase is "from new territories." And in Poland, people from the “old” are hiding from graves. And how to call or mobilize them?
              1. +1
                April 26 2024 11: 37
                wait, will they receive a passport in Poland? in Poland there are enough of all kinds, both old and new
                1. 0
                  April 26 2024 11: 39
                  Quote: Nastia Makarova
                  wait, will they receive a passport in Poland?

                  Well, yes. This is also what the article talks about. hi
                  1. 0
                    April 26 2024 12: 20
                    then it's only a few
      3. +2
        April 26 2024 08: 35
        Quote: Andrey Nikolaevich
        God forbid dill are our passports! Only through filtration and Magadan!

        If you choose from dill with our passport and in Europe or dill with your passport and at the front, then personally I would choose the first...
      4. +1
        April 26 2024 09: 04
        Quote: Andrey Nikolaevich
        God forbid dill are our passports!

        Are you by any chance a Tajik, of which there are countless arrivals today?
      5. +2
        April 26 2024 14: 03
        Well, why immediately passports? At first, a temporary residence permit and for construction projects of the national economy under normal conditions, away from military installations and important infrastructure. Not necessarily to Magadan.
        1. +2
          April 26 2024 14: 06
          I don't insist on Magadan. Already have experience. I wrote that “send to Magadan” so the locals pecked me here so that the region would not turn them into a trash heap.))
      6. +1
        April 26 2024 15: 26
        Quote: Andrey Nikolaevich
        God forbid dill are our passports! Only through filtration and Magadan!

        There is no need to pollute Magadan with dill. By the way, there is a lot of empty living space in Vorkuta...
    2. +1
      April 26 2024 08: 47
      Quote from Msi
      Putin can say: if Ukraine does not give you passports, then I will give you Russian passports.

      A "mine of Ukrainians" will blow up Europe from the inside... laughing

      Briefly! And, capaciously!
      Bravo!
  2. +6
    April 26 2024 08: 00
    For Ukrainians abroad, the best option is to obtain Russian citizenship.
    Svidomo patriots)) will begin to look for a way out in any way. And quite some part may defect to the Russian Federation.
    And only the Security Service knows how many recruits there will be.
    1. +1
      April 26 2024 08: 07
      I fundamentally disagree with you. These possible fellow citizens are a great option for the current ruling class because they are from a generation that mentally accepts any government with its ideology, which allows them to do and live as they want, but as long as they do not send them to the trenches. I think they will go to policemen, Einsatzkommandos. Perfect. Such people will later begin to teach how to be Russian, to the envy of the old Black Hundreds.
      1. -1
        April 26 2024 09: 35
        Quote: Smoked
        which mentally accept any power with its ideology,

        There, mentally, “everything is owed to us” and nothing more.
        Such to yourself.
    2. +3
      April 26 2024 09: 13
      hi!
      Quote: aszzz888
      Svidomo patriots)) will begin to look for a way out in any way. And quite some part may defect to the Russian Federation.
      And only the Security Service knows how many recruits there will be.
      Don't we have enough "runners" of our own? Or are there not enough “waiters” who came running in 2014? Of course, you can’t scratch everyone with the same comb, but these people, who haven’t taken root in Europe, definitely won’t come to us to live in peace and work for the benefit of Russia.

      A neighbor in the country has a son who is a big figure in our regional Ministry of Emergency Situations. In 2014 or 15, he told how “refugees” arrived in droves and were placed in sanatoriums. Summer, Volga, freebies... Our bosses (and the Ministry of Emergency Situations, of course, too - from where I know, first-hand), plant directors arrived, let them describe “we need workers here, we need workers there”... And they in response, “We already have a good life with everything ready-made, Putin [unprintable] and anyway - the sun is shining, it’s hot... We’d better go to the beach...”
      Do we need such “refugees” for the second time?
      Although, I repeat, I know from the example of my company that not everyone is like that. There are also those who feel right in this world. But against the general background there are only a few of them.
      1. +4
        April 26 2024 10: 10
        A lot of people from the new territories also came to us, and you still owe us everything, then they got passports, got official jobs, registered with the military, and now, 2 years later, they show off and you owe us, it has faded very much, the majority have joined into society
        1. +1
          April 26 2024 10: 16
          Quote: Nastia Makarova
          now, after 2 years, show-offs and you owe us, it has faded very much, the majority have joined society
          We also have enough of these, I can see it from the example of my own employees. But it seems to me that it is still very, very early to talk in general about “very much faded.”
          1. +2
            April 26 2024 10: 20
            well, someone else’s soul is in the dark))) what they think inside is of course not known, but communication is clear that it has died down, they behave decently, but here (Sochi) there is a lot of work, there is where to earn money
  3. +10
    April 26 2024 08: 01
    the document on stay in a foreign country has expired - which means they are sent home “in full compliance with European and world legislation.”

    They were allowed to stay in Germany even with an expired passport. Apparently things were tense with the workers there. But for others, a Russian passport is really the solution. Only later they didn’t seem to say that “Russia is occupying the EU countries peacefully,” and not all Ukrainians THERE should be issued Russian passports.
    1. +1
      April 26 2024 08: 06
      Well, this has always been the case in Germany. Bo the authorities understand that it is difficult for refugees, and Ukrainians are in Germany as refugees, to return for a passport to those lands where the war is going on. Which is absolutely logical.

      To stay in the country, refugees are given their own German visas with a short validity period, which they must regularly renew with German authorities. (It seems like every six months or a year, I don’t remember)
    2. HAM
      +2
      April 26 2024 08: 07
      here, right THERE are the most stubborn “patriots”, and their faces are on the asphalt.....
    3. +1
      April 26 2024 08: 08
      and not all Ukrainians THERE should be issued Russian passports.
      Not that not everyone - no one at all! That's why Russia, there, has rabid Ukrainians with Russian passports?
  4. +6
    April 26 2024 08: 02
    Why does Russia need a crowd of idlers? What use will they be?
    Moreover, spy-terrorists can easily become legalized.
    1. +2
      April 26 2024 08: 05
      Don't let go!........................ Yes
    2. 0
      April 26 2024 08: 05
      Quote: antiaircrafter
      Why does Russia need a crowd of idlers? What use will they be?

      Let them sit in Europas, but with Russian passports tongue
      1. +1
        April 26 2024 08: 07
        No worries.... there is a lot of choice in Europe... let them complete the quest.... wassat
        Elena, my respect! love
      2. +4
        April 26 2024 08: 11
        You shouldn’t get dirty with this either... cunning/cunning timid people don’t bother about the duties of a citizen, but they won’t forget to come for “their rights,” believe me.
        To Rwanda, everyone to Rwanda!
      3. Msi
        +3
        April 26 2024 08: 13
        Let them sit in Europas, but with Russian passports

        This is an unplowed field for the formation of Russian agents. They don't care about this Ukraine. That's not why they ran away. This is not a monolith and there are people with different views. Like those who remained hi
        1. +1
          April 26 2024 09: 49
          “He who betrayed once will betray more than once,” there is no faith in such people!
    3. -1
      April 26 2024 08: 06
      What about the “Russian world” feel
  5. -1
    April 26 2024 08: 06
    Chota rzhu.
    So it was already 30 years ago))
    And for those 300, all the dissatisfied people there could have long ago, stupidly, been resettled in their huts beyond the Urals.
    cinema and Germans
  6. +2
    April 26 2024 08: 06
    But a lot of scum will accept Russian citizenship so as not to please the front, and in the depths of their vile little soul, they will hate Russia and Putin.
    1. +8
      April 26 2024 08: 22
      Tajiks and Uzbeks are another matter - they love Russia, adore Putin, and are generally ready to carry Russians in their arms! )))
      Bitter sarcasm, if anyone doesn't understand.
  7. +1
    April 26 2024 08: 08
    1 million may well agree

    The main thing is to immediately register with the military
    1. +1
      April 26 2024 08: 19
      everyone is becoming otherwise there will be no official work, but they won’t be hired anyway after mobilization as they did not serve in the army
  8. +4
    April 26 2024 08: 09
    So who are they, who fled to geyropa? Runners!
    Do we really need them?
    Even the goal, the justification so that the Kukuevites don’t get them, doesn’t inspire, no way... let them run to Rwanda, that’s where they belong!
  9. +1
    April 26 2024 08: 09
    “Putin can say: if Ukraine does not give you passports, then I will give you Russian passports” -

    - Receive Russian passports along with the return of your “place of registration”. Kharkov residents with the return of Kharkov, Odessa residents with the return of Odessa...
    1. +1
      April 26 2024 08: 23
      with the return of the “place of registration”. Kharkov residents with the return of Kharkov, Odessa residents with the return of Odessa

      So let them go and reclaim their ancestral nest!, which is doubtful...... Yes
      soldier
      1. +1
        April 26 2024 08: 40
        Runners, they are always and everywhere runners!
        Do we need it?
        1. +2
          April 26 2024 08: 42
          So what am I talking about.... everything needs to be done for them.... but they will come to something ready... debugged, smoothed, rebuilt.... also with Russian passports... what nonsense... FI- in short...let them jump around Europe...
          1. +1
            April 26 2024 08: 47
            Those who have made a conscious decision to change their lives find ways to implement this decision... and runners run further.
            1. +2
              April 26 2024 08: 48
              The ball is round... let them run... the way to Russia is closed.... hi
  10. 0
    April 26 2024 08: 10
    It would be nice, but the passports should be of a special series, with the prospect of receiving a regular passport after some time of residence and useful work on the territory of the Russian Federation.
    In general, in my opinion, this step has long been and logically suggested itself, unless there are some restrictions that are not visible from the height of my low mound of vision.
  11. -2
    April 26 2024 08: 19
    Arestovich is a modern Stirlitz. And his concrete steps are already evident. Arestovich suggested Russia and Ukraine “to unite and file a class action lawsuit against the West
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RGNdSpyS2xw
  12. +1
    April 26 2024 08: 20
    Will not give.
    I have long noticed that the Russian government avoids to the last any means to simplify the acquisition of Russian citizenship if Russians or pro-Russians could benefit from this.
    There are many examples when even the militias who fought for it, or even ordinary people, could not obtain Russian citizenship - even if they were convicted, for example, for recognizing Crimea as Russian.
    That is, a person participated, for example, in the “Ukrainian underground”, which is now mentioned with breath in some articles - and if this “underground worker” was caught, convicted, he served or served a sentence - that’s it, he will not get Russian citizenship!
    That is, the Russian state itself is against pro-Russian people becoming citizens of the country!
    1. -3
      April 26 2024 08: 31
      Those who escaped from ukroid to geyropa are ordinary assholes (those who wanted Russian citizenship received/are receiving Russian citizenship in 2 years). And the scoundrels, like other Asians, will be given citizenship and benefits, etc...
      1. +2
        April 26 2024 08: 34
        Nonsense. A lot of people fled the war. Many men fled without being conscripted into the army. And among them, by the way, there are many pro-Russian Russians.
        Don’t tell tales about “Russian citizenship in two years” - there are such ways, but as a rule, for the majority, Russian citizenship is obtained in five years, and not in two years.
        1. +1
          April 26 2024 08: 43
          Escaped Ukrainians are now given Russian citizenship within three months, regardless of their place of residence in Ukraine, but many are not allowed to enter Russia only through Sheremetyevo, where there is strict filtration.
        2. -1
          April 26 2024 08: 45
          There are always difficulties and our bureaucracy is the same as everywhere else.
          But it’s worth asking the question, what have you personally done so that Russia needs you???
          A lot of former Ukrainians moved to Russia and work honestly, some go to defend the country that sheltered you!!!
          In general, everything is different everywhere.
          1. +2
            April 26 2024 08: 48
            No.
            There are many countries where obtaining citizenship is much easier than in Russia. Especially for their fellow tribesmen.
            Regarding the thesis “...what have you personally done” - it turns out that this thesis is based not on the premises that, for example, Russians are a value for Russia in themselves, as representatives of the Russian, STATE-FORMING people - but on the premise that citizenship of the Russian Federation, according to In essence, you need to buy it, representing some kind of “value”.
            And now, for the vast majority of Ukrainian citizens, Russian citizenship is simply not available.
            1. -2
              April 26 2024 08: 55
              but on the premise that Russian citizenship, in fact, must be purchased, representing a certain “value”.
              . I just want to repeat the question of the boy from the film "Spring"... uncle, are you...?
              In general, a Soviet or Russian person will understand right away!!! And the opinion of others... I don’t care.
              1. +2
                April 26 2024 08: 56
                For Russians, Russians are always a value in themselves. For the Russians, they don’t care about Russians. I’m not asking your nationality, everything is already clear to me.
                On the substance of the issue under discussion, without getting personal, is there anything to answer? No? Free.
                1. -2
                  April 26 2024 09: 03
                  So I haven’t seen the wonderful Soviet film “Spring”... I’m not asking about OUR other films...
                  Finally... “Come and see”, if you look, maybe a topic for discussion will appear, who the Russians are, who should be valued and for what...
                  1. +1
                    April 26 2024 09: 04
                    Vitya, what can I say essentially? Without reference to the classics of Soviet cinema?
                    Let me remind you that I generally... uh, criticized your Russophobic thesis that citizenship should be given only to those of some value.
                    And regarding “many former Ukrainians have moved” - today, for the vast majority of Ukrainian citizens from abroad, the path to the Russian Federation is closed.
                    1. -2
                      April 26 2024 09: 19
                      The list of my VALUES does not coincide with yours... I didn’t even have any thoughts about BUYING CITIZENSHIP.
                      Feel the difference and don’t blow your mind with your primitive reasoning, because in real life, everything is much more complicated and multifaceted!
                      Russia, a multi-national, multi-concessional country, any bias towards nationalist ideologies is a precursor to DISASTER!
                      The country needs you, the country needs you, and it doesn’t matter who you are by nationality, the main thing is... but there is not one thing, the most important thing.
                      FOR THE HOMELAND!!! FOR RUSSIA!!! and the rest later.
                      1. +2
                        April 26 2024 09: 33
                        Giving citizenship not just to Russians - but only to those who “represent some value” - this is exactly buying, don’t make excuses, Vitya.

                        Well, about “multinational Russia” - you tell the few survivors of the Chechen massacre, the genocide of Russians in Chechnya in the nineties, tell this to the relatives of Russians who fled or were killed in Tajikistan, and especially carefully - tell your multinational mantra to the victims of the terrorist attack in Crocus .
                        And why is Russia needed if there are no Russian people in it?
                        Although the Russians and non-Russians, of course, need just such a Russia, I don’t argue.
                      2. -2
                        April 26 2024 09: 44
                        Standard, everything is written as in the training manuals... again “an officer’s daughter”...
                        Not interested.
                      3. +2
                        April 26 2024 09: 46
                        Yes, yes, of course - every time a person picks up facts that cannot be objected to - he is immediately declared a “Khokhol”, a “tsypsochnik”, or “an officer’s daughter” - nothing new.
                        And yet, why do we need Russia without Russians?
        3. -1
          April 26 2024 08: 47
          If you sit and wait, it’s 100% nonsense. Were you able to travel to Europe, but not able to get to Russia? (yes na) (er they didn’t need it until the roast rooster pecked). I know a bunch of examples when Khokhlyad relatives crossed out their Russian relatives from their lives and WHY are such creatures needed? And probably in order to get into “power” (see the example of the USSR) and spoil, spoil damned Russia. Or do this:
          Even the militias who fought for her could not get it,
          (this could be any people, Jews, Ukrainians, Russians, etc., but with a worldview - my house is on the edge, I steal and get high, and spread rot on everything that can interfere with me). It’s convenient to be a tumbleweed, just let this plant roll around on the geyropes.
          1. +3
            April 26 2024 08: 55
            I see you have no knowledge of the topic being discussed.
            For citizens of Ukraine, the path to the country is closed AT ALL crossing points, except Sheremetyevo, where, among other things, childish filtering is carried out, eliminating the majority of candidates, and barring them from entering the country FOR LIFE. That is, for example, if a person received a criminal record for recognizing Crimea as Russian, managed to escape from the country and came to Sheremetyevo with a criminal record for recognizing Crimea as Russian, he is deprived of the opportunity to obtain citizenship of the country, having a criminal record for recognizing Crimea as Russian, forever.
            Well, if you were caught by the phrase that militias often cannot obtain Russian citizenship, don’t be offended, it’s true.
            Grubnik, betrayed by the Russian authorities Evgeniy Shcherbak, Andrei Karaman - a militiaman, a native of Transnistria, who has been denied citizenship more than once and is now facing deportation, Serbian volunteer Alexander Jokic - there is a problem.
        4. +3
          April 26 2024 10: 14
          what 5 years??? people from new territories receive a passport within a month!!!!
          1. +1
            April 26 2024 14: 46
            Yes - after men stopped being released from the territory of Ukraine and normally allowed into the territory of Russia, turning back the lion's share of Ukrainian citizens, and with a lifelong ban on entry without the right to review the decision.
            “From new territories” - what about refugees from those territories where the Russian army is not planned at all?
            1. +2
              April 26 2024 15: 03
              I think that if they want to, they need to be allowed into Russia after verification
              1. +1
                April 26 2024 15: 04
                Today, the filtering criteria are such that the majority are eliminated. And it's hardly always fair...
                Eh, who would introduce such a check for Tajiks and Uzbeks!
                1. +1
                  April 26 2024 15: 05
                  Well, they catch so many recruits that it’s impossible to do without checking
  13. +2
    April 26 2024 08: 20
    Quote: aszzz888
    And only the Security Service knows how many recruits there will be.

    Well, first of all, abbreviations are usually written in capital letters.
    Secondly, there are most likely no recruits among those who left for the West at all; why would they be recruited? Staging a terrorist attack on a grape plantation in Italy?
    Thirdly, in the absolute majority, these are completely ordinary people who just want to live. Preferably calm.
    Many of them would leave for Russia if there was such an opportunity.
    Many sincerely believed in “lace panties”. You look and your eyes will open.
    Thirdly, sooner or later they will all be transferred from Europe to the Ukrainian Armed Forces, let it be as late as possible.
    Fourth, the closest path to victory in this war (in any war) is the collapse of the opposing state.
    As Field Marshal Baryatinsky used to say:
    Shamil travels with the executioner, and I with the treasurer!
  14. -1
    April 26 2024 08: 29
    “Putin can say: if Ukraine does not give you passports, then I will give you Russian passports” - ex-adviser to Bankova
    Why does the Russian Federation need to do this, if so much has been done to make life easier for the citizens of Ukraine:

    Citizens of Ukraine can now enter Russia using expired internal passports, President Vladimir Putin said in a decree. It came into force on September 29, 2023.
    According to the document, Ukrainians can now enter and exit Russia using the following documents (even if they have expired):
    passport of a citizen of Ukraine;
    international passport of a citizen of Ukraine;
    diplomatic passport;
    service passport;
    birth certificate (for children under 16 years of age);
    seafarer's identity card;
    ID card for returning to Ukraine.
    1. +2
      April 26 2024 08: 32
      Only now the majority of Ukrainian citizens are screened out at the filtration point...
  15. +3
    April 26 2024 08: 37
    And out of 10 million citizens outside of Ukraine, 1 million may well agree and go for a Russian passport
    Today on Norkin’s show, Vasil Vakarov just talked about this. The point was that those who still have a not entirely negative attitude towards Russia in connection with Bankova’s innovations can follow this path. But at the same time, some, in order not to be accused of treason in Ukraine, may choose Belarus (if they are accepted there), because this is considered not so “shabby” (Vakarov’s definition).
    But filtration measures on the Russian border are necessary, and strict ones at that.
  16. -1
    April 26 2024 08: 37
    Oh, do we need this? Do we need traitors? What to do with them? Expect meanness in any difficult situation?
  17. +2
    April 26 2024 08: 38
    These are refugees and they don’t want to fight, but in Russia they can be sent to the front. Therefore, it is unlikely that they will go to Russia.
    Another thing is that they probably don't trust Russia - it abandoned them in 1991. Two years ago, Russian troops entered Kherson almost without a fight with the support of the local population, and soon after that Russia abandoned them again. These refugees will not trust Russia.
  18. 0
    April 26 2024 08: 41
    Yes, we have a great choice of getting compatriots, stubborn Benderaites or Central Asian, Transcaucasian ghouls.
    1. 0
      April 26 2024 10: 32
      There is another way to solve the problem.
      But for this you need to somehow persuade your own women.
      Which is not a fact...
  19. 0
    April 26 2024 08: 43
    Listen, the new indigenous peoples of Russia will be offended...
  20. +1
    April 26 2024 08: 50
    Ukrainians most likely will not go to Russia, some for ideological reasons, some will not be allowed at the border, but I think going to Belarus is an option for them.
  21. 0
    April 26 2024 08: 56
    Give passports after filtration, debriefing, and construction projects or in the war of liberation of Russian Kyiv and Lvov.
    And the construction workers will be the inhabitants of Europe for liberation, who expect from LGBT, Satanism and economic slavery of the golden billion, the Bilderberg Club and other globalist organizations.
    God is with us!!!
    Victory will be ours!!!!
  22. +1
    April 26 2024 08: 58
    ...In this case, the Ukrainians will definitely not be “packed to the front”
    Controversial statement. Some of them left for ideological reasons, but the majority do not care about the state and are citizens of dubious quality. To test Russia's loyalty and willingness to bring benefits, passport applicants must be asked to immediately join the army and liberate Ukraine from the Nazis. It will be clear who is who.
    1. +3
      April 26 2024 10: 17
      they ran away from the front and you brought them there again only from the other side)))))))
  23. +1
    April 26 2024 09: 17
    I’m not sure about the reliability and loyalty of these subjects if they are given our citizenship, we need a long system of checking for loyalty and past
  24. +1
    April 26 2024 09: 31
    The statement of ex-adviser in Zelensky’s office, Alexey Arestovich, attracted attention
    And if you listen to him... You bastard!
    Although... (thoughtfully)
    For those who have not watched “Seventeen Moments of Spring,” Standartenführer Stirlitz is a seasoned enemy.
  25. +1
    April 26 2024 12: 03
    Having betrayed once, having thrown your country into a grave reptile and faded away, it will be easier to betray a second, and a third, and a tenth time...
    "Muzhuki Sumlevayutsa" (film "Chapaev")
    1. 0
      April 26 2024 14: 40
      That is, they had to stay and fight for Bandera, or support Bandera, is that what you wanted to say? All the Russians who fled from Ukraine from Bandera would have applauded you.
  26. +2
    April 26 2024 12: 05
    Quote: Nastia Makarova
    they ran away from the front and you brought them there again only from the other side)))))))


    + 100500 on a five-point scale! 8-)))))))))))))))))))))))))))
  27. +1
    April 26 2024 13: 05
    Ukrainians in the West can be offered Russian citizenship. It is unclear what will come of this, but you can try. Make your enemies out of them. In a war against an insidious enemy, all means are good. Including the destruction of the management vertical. If it reduces our losses. With us, every person is priceless. And feeling sorry for the enemy or being shy like girls is not serious.
  28. 0
    April 26 2024 13: 57
    Yeah, right now, they ran away. Why do we need this bunch of slackers? Let them pump money from the EU and spoil it there, purely a partisan detachment.
  29. +1
    April 26 2024 14: 45
    Quote: Alt22
    That is, they had to stay and fight for Bandera, or support Bandera, is that what you wanted to say? All the Russians who fled from Ukraine from Bandera would have applauded you.


    I wanted to say exactly what I said. No more and no less.
    Leave your suggestive sublimation fantasies and antics with a sly squint “a la Ilyich with a log at a subbotnik” for the little ones and grandmas on the bench in the park.
    All (parties) always had an appropriate attitude towards traitors. It seems like I’m writing in Russian. Although Russian is not my native language.
  30. -1
    April 26 2024 17: 21
    Quote: pristav
    Agree. They left without supporting the ATO or from the ongoing battles, so as not to be drafted into the army to fight for Ze and the team. I think there is a choice as to which citizenship to accept, so why not offer Russian citizens who remained on the territory of Ukraine after the collapse of the USSR Russian citizenship? Isn’t that why it all started?

    In any case, it is much cheaper than killing them at the front!
  31. 0
    April 26 2024 17: 23
    Putin can say: if Ukraine does not give you passports, then I will give you Russian passports” - ex-adviser to Bankova
    We don't need this mold here. These are potential traitors and saboteurs.
  32. 0
    April 26 2024 17: 32
    Issuing Russian passports to those who do not want to return to Zelensky’s rule would be a very good solution. But passports have limited validity, say for three years. To get a permanent one, you need to live in Russia for a year, after which you can exchange it for an indefinite one.
    Whoever decides to do this is great, we need normal people. Those who receive a passport only for the slope from the Armed Forces of Ukraine are also good. In both cases we will win.