The Russian flag was raised over Solovyovo, assault groups of the Russian Armed Forces were spotted on the outskirts of Arkhangelsk

In the center of the village of Solovyovo, the Russian flag was raised, assault groups of Russian troops were spotted on the outskirts of Arkhangelsk. The situation around Ocheretino is changing hourly; units of the Ukrainian Armed Forces are unable to hold back the advance of the Russian Armed Forces.

Russian troops continue to expand the zone of control in the Ocheretino area; in the evening, information was received that the enemy was not making any attempts to recapture the village, having gained a foothold to the west of the village. At the same time, groups of the Armed Forces of Ukraine were spotted in the northwestern part of Ocheretino; ours are conducting a clean-up operation. The situation is the same in Novobakhmutovka, which is completely under the control of Russian troops; a clean-up operation is also underway there.

In Solovyovo, which ours began to storm this morning, the Russian flag was raised, the enemy retreated from the village in the direction of the west and southwest. The information has not yet been confirmed, but it is quite reliable; a few hours ago our people were in the center of the village. On the other side of the railway, ours continue to fight in Novokalinovo; approximately half of the village remains under the control of the Ukrainian Armed Forces.

Information has appeared that assault groups of the Russian Armed Forces have infiltrated the outskirts of Arkhangelskoye, which means that there are practically no Ukrainian Armed Forces units between Ocheretino and this village. If ours take Arkhangelskoye, then the Ukrainian Armed Forces in Novokalinovo and Keramika will find themselves in a very difficult situation.

Despite the fact that Russian troops, after the capture of Novobakhmutovka and Solovyevo, literally flank the Ukrainian Armed Forces units in Berdychi, the enemy does not leave there.

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[pharmacist]

“Despite the fact that Russian troops, after the capture of Novobakhmutovka and Solovyevo, literally flank the Ukrainian Armed Forces units in Berdychi and Semyonovka, the enemy does not leave there.”

It’s okay, you can’t fight for a long time with cut communications. Hunger is no problem, and the time of wars with sabers is long gone; ammunition is needed.

[BonchB]

Don’t throw down minuses - I really don’t understand much about the tactical and strategic topography of the situation. And this is not sarcasm, but a sincere question for those who understand and analyze and can explain in accessible language.

In a series of a lot of news over the last year, probably about the occupation-waste of this or that house, street, village, part of the village, the eye has already blurred and the line of logic has been lost. What are the goals and optimistic pictures in this entire area? I don’t mean in the context of individual villages, dacha villages, beams... but certainly not in the global context of the scale of the entire theater of operations and enterprise.
What should ideally lead to actions in this direction, roughly speaking, in the medium term? It’s as if gigantic efforts are being made, but the overall picture behind them is difficult to read.

It is clear that no one can say about this in advance, since there are no clairvoyants. But is there a conventional reference point when the Sisyphean work of incredibly viscous advancement meter by meter can receive qualitative development and pace. Slavyansk, Kramatorsk, something else? After all, while maintaining the current format, only within the Donetsk region there are still dozens and hundreds of villages...., and then more and more...

[OlegEKB]

What should ideally lead to actions in this direction, roughly speaking, in the medium term?

access to the flank of Konstantinovka and Druzhkovka

After all, while maintaining the current format, only within the Donetsk region there are still dozens and hundreds of villages...., and then more and more...

Well, this is the same thing as saying why the Wehrmacht in 41 didn’t pass by Moscow in the same format as in the summer
so here too, if there is degradation of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, then tens and hundreds of villages will go faster

[BonchB]

“reaching the flank of Konstantinovka and Druzhkovka” - judging by the distances - this is an operational task within tens of kilometers. I was rather not asking about positional things.

[Sergey Aleksandrovich]

The enemy is very strong and they make their way where they can. No strategic breakthroughs are expected. They are moving as slowly as they can.

[OlegEKB]

this is an operational task within tens of kilometers

perhaps the enemy did not create fortifications there from the south, and it may be easier to storm the same Konstantinovka from the south than from the east (Ocheretino is essentially in the rear of Konstantinovka)
but the military already knows this

[Crimean partisan 1974]

I was rather not asking about positional things.

.... there is only one thing .... read the goals and objectives of the Northern Military District .... it is printed there in white in Russian ... DEMILITARIZATION AND DENAZIFICATION ... there is not a word about decisive seizures of territories ... we are talking about grinding .. .which is what is being done

[lexat7]

The Russian army is not fighting against cities, villages, gullies, heights, etc., but against military units. There will be no these units, you will have both cities and villages... demilitarization

[dnestr74]

There is a point when the enemy runs out of BC and people to contain the pressure... But judging by the text, you are a fat troll from Ukraine.

[BonchB]

Not at all. That’s why I wrote a footnote at the very beginning, saying that the question is not a joke. It’s better to sincerely say that you don’t understand something than to pretend to be smart, so where there is no knowledge, which is what I did. You shouldn’t classify me as a troll simply because I don’t express myself in enthusiastic slogans.

[dnestr74]

No, you are simply engaging in sophistry.

[Orange bigg]

It threatens to break through the third, last line of defense of the Ukrainian Armed Forces in the Avdeevsky direction. The first line was Avdeevka and its surroundings, the second village along the line was Semyonovka, Berdychi, the third Ocheretino and those villages that are now being taken, and behind them there are no fortifications, which means operational space and the possibility of reaching the rear of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, and not where they have fortifications . Something similar happened when Popasnaya was liberated in 2022, it all ended with the capture of Severodonetsk and Lisichansk. Take a close look at the map below.

[BonchB]

Thanks for the detailed answer! Interesting - I'll definitely study the map.

[Igor Viktorovich]

At the same time, a reasonable question arises: do we have enough strength without compromising other areas? I think we have reserves. After all, someone works in the Moscow Region, and not just deals with billions.

[Igor Viktorovich]

Judging by your competent presentation and vision of the situation, you understand everything. So the statement that you are a troll, just smart, looks plausible..

[Leshak]

I think so (maybe I’m wrong) now dill is looking for reserves to transfer to this direction, taking from others. This means that our breakthrough is possible where there will be a weakening of resistance due to the removal of parts. "A thousand cuts" tactics. And at some point the defense should begin to crumble everywhere. I’m also not a strategist, but it seems that way.

[Orange bigg]

In my opinion, where it’s thin, that’s where it breaks. And now it breaks where there is a hole in the defense of the Ukrainian Armed Forces after the capture of Ocheretino. Now we need to throw reserves there in order to secure the flanks of the breakthrough and get the Ukrainian Armed Forces to the rear, then the Ukrainian Armed Forces will have to throw even more reserves here to hold the defense, as in their time in Bakhmut, which will put them on stretch marks and force them to expend reserves. Here the defense has already been broken through, and if you start somewhere else to break through 3 lines of defense, then it will be long and expensive. But here the situation is good because reserves can be launched into the place of the breakthrough and hit at the unprotected rear of the Ukrainian Armed Forces, and then the defense of the Ukrainian Armed Forces will crumble like a domino. You can take the same New York, Toretsk in the Gorlovsky direction, Pokrovsk, Kurakhovo, Ugledar.

[Leshak]

This in no way contradicts what I said:

... now dill is looking for reserves to transfer to this direction, taking from others. This means that our breakthrough is possible where there will be a weakening of resistance due to the removal of parts.

It also implies that they tear where thinly.

[Orange bigg]

I didn’t set myself the goal of contradicting. It’s just that in the new direction of attack the defense line has yet to be broken through and this will take a lot of time and resources and it’s not a fact that it will work, but here are all the conditions for introducing reserves into the breakthrough zone. Sometimes the secondary direction of the attack is in mind the successful course of events becomes the main thing. Good is not sought from good.

[spirit]

.And here the situation is good because you can launch reserves into the place of the breakthrough and hit the unprotected rear of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and then the defense of the Armed Forces of Ukraine crumbles

And you can get a counter-attack on the flanks if you go deep and encircle (if I were the Ukrainian Armed Forces, I would do that). That’s why the front is broken through in different places with large and small pincers. When there is no serious advantage in the sills, you need to be more careful.

[Orange bigg]

Therefore, it is necessary to secure the flanks of the breakthrough by introducing reserves.

[Sergey Aleksandrovich]

Only the General Staff and direct participants in the battles know what exactly is needed. They can continue to rush forward to ensure depth of defense in case of a counterattack.

[igorbrsv]

They would do so, but they can’t anymore

. But you can get a counter-attack on the flanks if you go deep and encircle (if I were the Ukrainian Armed Forces, I would do that)

[lexat7]

The 47th brigade of the Ukrainian Armed Forces was practically destroyed near Berdychi, like the most modern one,
Abrams are being driven to the rear. Now they will probably pull reserves from Kharkov, will that help? We'll see.
And our guys are handsome

[Khibiny Plastun]

If the Dnieper bridges were demolished, back in 22, then the backbone of Bandera’s army was destroyed even then. That ridge around which the mobilized mass was formed. While they held back the pressure of our army, they gained time there. And without this weak link in supplying the Banderaites, they would not have had time. Over there in Kharkov we hit a tower, but we can’t cross the bridges? Or do the Russian oligarchs not stop their Ukrainian brothers from making boblos? And at the same time supply Bandera’s supporters. Yeah.

[Huarabey]

Perhaps the bridges are being held so that alternate routes for delivering urgent and large aid to dill, which cannot be destroyed so easily, are not used up.

[igorbrsv]

But this is precisely the exit to the flank of Konstantinovka. Kramatorsk and Slavyansk are, of course, far away, but Chasov Yar will not last without Konstantinovka. In this case they will have to leave it

[Nastia makarova]

each subsequent village comes easier and faster

[Wayfarer_2]

The simplest, most obvious and clearly visible goal is the liberation of the Donetsk region. A closer goal is to push the enemy away from Donetsk, Gorlovka, Makeevka, Yasinovataya, etc. in order to prevent them from shelling these cities and killing and maiming civilians, and destroying infrastructure. The further the enemy is from these cities, the less means he will have for shelling. In particular, mortars will no longer reach and are no longer available. And before they also fired mortars at cities. Artillery guns also usually fire at a distance of one and a half to two dozen kilometers. There are, of course, longer-range ones, but the principle, I think, is clear. The further away they are, the less opportunity they have to kill civilians. And also to mock the population of those settlements that they currently occupy. Where there are none, there is no one to bully. And from a military point of view, there are also all kinds of envelopments, detours, approaches to the flank, to the rear, etc. These maneuvers make it easier to destroy the enemy.

[borisvt]

..the enemy does not leave there.

I agree with my colleague Pharmacist (Alexey), this means a mountain of corpses of pot-heads and a string of captives in the near future

[Sergey Aleksandrovich]

Berdychi has a very experienced and well-armed enemy. They need to be ironed with everything at your disposal.

[igorbrsv]

They seem to have pulled all their reserves there. They resist for a long time. Stubborn like us

[Sergey Aleksandrovich]

If ours gain a foothold in Ocheretino or even advance even further, then the enemy in Berdychi is doomed, no matter how much he resists. Moreover, the enemy’s defense is based on artillery and drones. Drone operators will not be able to hold out for long in an open field, and with artillery it will be much worse.

[igorbrsv]

And then there is a chance to tighten up Konstantinovka, and Chasov Yar.

[K_4]

Well, they act correctly, they expand the bridgehead on the shoulders of the retreating one. A strike on Arkhangelkoy, Keramik and Berdychi logically suggests itself (as I understand, half of them were taken by us). In theory, you need a good distraction in another direction in order to tear apart the reinforcements and the enemy begins to rush about.

[dnestr74]

To Kharkov, for example.........

[Orange bigg]

We can’t go to Kharkov, they’re waiting for us and there’s a layered defense there. We need something simpler and easier.

[Sergey Aleksandrovich]

It is highly desirable to treat the village of Kalinovo north of Arkhangelsk with something hot and weighty. so that the enemy has nowhere to hide there.

[Slon1978]

I don't think this is a matter of distractions. With a sudden and successful breakthrough in Ocheretino, our units entered, as they say, operational space - when the enemy does not have reserves to cover the breakthrough with barriers from all sides and is forced to rush between directions and is late everywhere. According to the classics, reserves are introduced into the breakthrough and then it expands in all directions. Rapid movement in the Ocheretino area will be limited only by the speed of introduction of reserves and their quantity.

[Sergey Aleksandrovich]

If we break through to Arkhangelskoye, then the enemy group in Novokalinovo faces operational encirclement. With further development of success, they will run and run quickly.

[OlegEKB]

then the enemy group in Novokalinovo faces operational encirclement. With further development of success, they will run and run quickly.

there is also a question of where to run, they have a river behind them

[Sergey Aleksandrovich]

They will run through Kalinovo, so they would process everything there and remotely mine it. Until Arkhangelskoye is taken, there is a corridor.

[OlegEKB]

look at the map, there is no road from Novokalinovo to Kalinovo and there are two rivers, that is, transport will no longer pass, only by legs and by swimming

[Sergey Aleksandrovich]

Then they're screwed. This means that we should expect their counterattack from the west towards the Ocheretino area. There are no other options left.

[igorbrsv]

In. I recently reset all my tabs by accident. What good cards are there? Lostarmor seems adequate. How to find her now

[Staal]

What should ideally lead to actions in this direction, roughly speaking, in the medium term? It’s as if gigantic efforts are being made, but the overall picture behind them is difficult to read.

The goal is the liberation of Russian territory, which, according to our Constitution, includes the Donetsk region, along with Lugansk, Kherson and Zaporozhye.

[Staal]

If only the Dnieper bridges were demolished,

If all the bridges were demolished, would this solve the issue of isolating the theater of operations on the left bank?
There are also pontoon bridges, hydroelectric rafts...

[Esaul]

Great, we now need to further develop the offensive from Ocheretino to Pokrovsk - an important transport hub. Having taken it, you can begin operations from there to the north - Slavyansk and Kramatorsk and the south - Kurakhovo, Ugledar.

[igorbrsv]

Maybe they will do so. But it’s still a long crawl to Pokrovsk. Although it may be more convenient to crawl up to it, Konstantinovka is on top

[km-21]

Don't rush to trumpet victory. If you take in the entire combat zone at one glance, the microscopic advances of the Russian Armed Forces will be practically invisible. And taking into account the upcoming arrival of a significant batch of weapons for the Ukrainian Armed Forces, including aircraft and 300+ km missiles, we can predict an endless positional war of attrition, which is absolutely not beneficial for Russia.

Sooner or later Russia will have to start fighting for real.
And the later, the worse it is for all of us.