Ukrainians at the passport center in Warsaw: The state has put us in a hopeless situation

Journalists from the French publication AFP spoke with citizens of Ukraine who, on the instructions of Kyiv, are denied consular services, including the registration and issuance of new passports necessary to continue their stay abroad.

In particular, in the branch of the Ukrainian passport center in Warsaw, where conflict situations arose the day before due to the refusal of the Ukrainian mission to issue even previously ordered passports.

Commenting to a French publication on the situation created as a result of the order of the Ukrainian Foreign Ministry, Ukrainians who were unsuccessfully waiting for their documents complained that in the eyes of Kyiv, even those citizens who managed to travel abroad on a legal basis are considered draft dodgers.

In addition, Ukrainian citizens who left their country long before Zelensky closed the borders also faced problems in obtaining new passports and other documents. At the same time, the issuance of documents is denied even to those citizens whose passports are already ready. The money paid for processing passports (and Ukrainian embassies and consulates charge $130 for this service) is, of course, not returned.

It is also reported that Polish Defense Minister Wladyslaw Kosiniak-Kamysh said that Warsaw is ready to help Kyiv return men of military age to Ukraine. The head of the Polish military department noted that many Poles are outraged by the sight of young Ukrainian men in hotels and cafes.

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[Romanenko]

The government has put us in a hopeless situation.

The pig-nosed ones rode on the Maidans, now the hangover is coming, oh, and it will be severe!
And the Tseuropa will come back to haunt you and Bandera, everything will come back to haunt you!

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: Romanenko

The government has put us in a hopeless situation.

The pig-nosed ones rode on the Maidans, now the hangover is coming, oh, and it will be severe!

Somehow, this whole story with passports increasingly smacks not only of Zelensky’s desire to return “meat” to the front, but also of Europe’s desire to send “dead puppies” home. Or not home - it doesn’t matter where, as long as it’s further away. They are tired of feeding arrogant parasites. There are enough other migrants for them, and now these ones have fallen...
For some reason, as an old conspiracy theorist, I imagine a mutually beneficial conspiracy between Zelensky and Europe.

And further.
Somewhere there is a deep suspicion that a crowd of these “refugees” of the Bandera persuasion will rush towards us. Because, if you think about it sensibly, where else is there a country that accepts everyone, without being interested in documents, biography, or ideology, where Ukrainian military commissars can’t get enough and Ukrainian laws are half-assed?
And then, for money, the SBU will do harm here secretly and openly.
What do our Foreign Ministry, special services, and Supreme Commander think about this? We don’t have enough troubles with our p@donks, haven’t they let in just anyone since 2014? Do you need even more?

[abc_alex]

Quote: Zoldat_A

Because, if you think about it sensibly, where else is there a country that accepts everyone, without being interested in documents, biography, or ideology, where Ukrainian military commissars can’t get enough and Ukrainian laws are half-assed?

Yes, it was no longer so easy for them to enter Russia. Google it, there were videos of them being vacuumed at our airports. They are interested in passports and biography and can easily turn it in...

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: abc_alex

Google it, there were videos of them being vacuumed at our airports. They are interested in passports and biography and can easily turn it in...

Out of a hundred, one is wrapped up in “Sala to Ukraine, sala to the heroes!” on Twitter? We have had crowds of “unwrapped” people since 2014, and now we need to add more work...

I’ve already said here that my company employs both workers and engineers who arrived in 2014. But they came in earnest and forever. We received citizenship. They got mortgages, settled down, are working, three of them volunteered... And not like these “birds of passage” running away from military commissars.

[abc_alex]

Quote: Zoldat_A

Out of a hundred, one is wrapped up in “Sala to Ukraine, sala to the heroes!” on Twitter? We have had crowds of “unwrapped” people since 2014, and now we need to add more work...

Honestly, the questions are no longer directed at me, but at the FSB. :)

[VZEM100]

Most of them are by nature the same deserters and opportunists as those who were in 22. fled to the west.

[nik-mazur]

Quote: Zoldat_A

The clean history with passports smacks of... Zelensky’s desire to return the “meat”... Europe’s desire to kick out the “dead puppies”... the suspicion that the crowd... will rush towards us... they will do harm here... That we have a Foreign Ministry, special services , Do the Supreme think about this? We don't have enough troubles with our p@donks... Do we need even more?

Simply gorgeous. The refugees in Europe have only just begun to have problems, and you are already approaching our authorities with claims that they do not want to do anything about Bandera terrorism.
In such cases, I always remember

joke about a student

A student takes zoology. He only knows about fleas. During the exam there is a question about dogs. The student begins:
– Dogs are mammals covered with fur. There are fleas in the fur, which belong to the order of blood-sucking insects...
The rest is all about fleas.
Teacher:
- Okay young man, tell me about the birds.
Student:
– Birds belong to the group of warm-blooded animals. Covered with feathers. However, birds are also parasitized by specific fleas...
Teacher:
- Let's talk about fish.
Student:
- Fish are cold-blooded. They live in water. Covered with scales... But! if they were covered with fur, there would be fleas in it...

[Zoldat_A]

Quote from: nik-mazur

The refugees in Europe have only just begun to have problems, and you are already approaching our authorities with claims that they do not want to do anything about Bandera terrorism.

Yes, I’m not making any claims, and not to the authorities.
Just, as usual, out of the kindness of our hearts, we let in again, I don’t understand who. But these guys definitely shouldn’t be allowed in. And it turns out that they have nowhere to run except Russia. Who else is left besides us, where the Ukrainian Military Commissars won’t reach us and where they won’t kick us out? Belarus, Iran, North Korea? Or straight to Latin America?

[bk316]

But these guys definitely shouldn’t be allowed in

They shouldn’t all be allowed in and then interned. Let them sit somewhere until the end of the war.
In general, this is a gesture of despair among the Ukrainians. Think for yourself whether an army of five hundred will fight many wars.

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: bk316

They shouldn’t all be allowed in and then interned. Let them sit somewhere until the end of the war.

Feed, protect... Again, not a zone or a prison, more or less civilized places to live are needed.
Do we have no one to feed and protect their country for the rest of their lives without these runners? We are arguing about those, the whole country is “for”, only the Kremlin is “against”, and here we have to build colonies and settlements and maintain them.
Turn around at the border, even if they are hiding from the Ukrainian Military Commissars in Antarctica.

[bk316]

Do we have no one to feed and protect their country for the rest of their lives without these runners?

In any case, it is better to feed and protect than to meet them on the LBS.
And it’s not difficult to come up with a job for them. It is necessary to build a railway in Siberia, for example.
It’s in the European part that you need a thorn, but in Yakutia there’s nowhere to run.

[nik-mazur]

Quote: Zoldat_A

as usual, out of the goodness of our hearts, we let in again, I don’t understand who

It’s very understandable - hackers and indifferences who don’t give a damn about the war until the last Ukrainian. If there are no benefits and allowances, but only on a bird's license, then let them work. If they don't work well for us, they'll go back...

[VZEM100]

your idol Stalin let everyone in and didn’t let anyone out.

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: VZEM100

your idol Stalin let everyone in and didn’t let anyone out.

How did you figure out all my idols so quickly? Talent, I guess...

[russ71]

Alas, this is unlikely to apply to us...
Now they can only enter through one checkpoint, and arrive only through Sheremetyevo.
At the airport they are thoroughly checked... all contacts, social networks and the like. The minimum check takes 4 hours, and for some it takes 12 hours.
So, I hope that all sorts of trash will be deployed there... with a "wolf ticket"!

[VZEM100]

It’s all complete crap...social networks...are full of crap. The vast majority of them do not pose any danger, especially since Putin has said more than once that we are one people. In the context of Russia's extinction, this is the wrong approach. They also need to be allowed in, only to be sent to correctional labor. The Asians whom the FSB let in 12 million are much more dangerous and cannot be assimilated.

[swzero]

This requires collective responsibility. If you knew about working for the Security Service but did not report it, expel/punish all your acquaintances as accomplices.

[geor.tcherniaev]

We drank kava at the Vienna Opera, wishing we were welcome to our homeland, and slurping blood in the trenches.

[NIKN]

Ukrainians at the passport center in Warsaw: The government has put us in a hopeless situation.

Well, guys, you put yourself in a hopeless situation because you created the state by jumping on the Maidan. And what kind of state could you create by putting a saucepan on your head?

[bk316]

And what kind of state could you create by putting a saucepan on your head?

They put themselves in this situation, their state and their families. You can't do anything good with a pan on your head. I try to explain this to the wrestlers here all the time.

[Real Pilot]

Is it just me, or is the body in the center flexing with a tattooed limb? Yes, aptly so, right into the “girb of sovereignty”...

[Vladimir Vladimirovich Vorontsov]

“In the eyes of Kyiv, even those citizens who managed to travel abroad legally are considered draft dodgers” -

- Which far-sightedly mowed down in advance...

[Machito]

Ukrainians now have two paths: either to Rwanda or to Russia.
I can imagine what kind of howl there will be in Khokhlostan, when Ukrainians from the European Union will run en masse to Russia with their hands raised and beg on their knees for forgiveness for past sins.

[Nexcom]

Niii, these forgiveness will not beg. Rather, they will rush to Rwanda and establish a “small and independent” (c) Khokhlostan there....

PS Poor Rwandans.... Later on they will also be forced to babble and glorify Bandera......

[Bolt cutter]

Poor Rwandans

The Rwandans will not talk about the brotherhood of peoples, but will take up the machete. And they will only send people there from Britain - Poland can’t afford it.

[isv000]

Quote: Bearded

Ukrainians now have two paths: either to Rwanda or to Russia.
I can imagine what kind of howl there will be in Khokhlostan, when Ukrainians from the European Union will run en masse to Russia with their hands raised and beg on their knees for forgiveness for past sins.

Only work ennobles a person. Put everyone who wants a Russian passport on a waiting list, guarantee benefits and offer a choice of jobs on construction sites of the national economy. After a certain time or accelerated, for labor or military merits, citizenship is issued. This applies to both fathers and mothers, children - as usual, upon reaching...

[Machito]

So they decided to build a bridge to Sakhalin. Then a port needs to be built, a naval base, railways and roads. There's a lot of work there. There is something for all refugees to enjoy.

[isv000]

I propose not to stop with the bridge to Sakhalin, but to immediately extend the highway to Hokkaido, with a branch to Chukotka and, through the Bering Strait, to Alaska.
But here, it seems, we will have to bring in logs with sprats, there won’t be enough wood...

[Nexcom]

That's how the hell, they got the hang of it.... Now everyone is back to Ukraine and to LBS....
Or somehow run away to another country and hang out there again.....

[Olesya Lesya]

If you wanted a beautiful, rich and quiet life, to bathe in democratic champagne - this is what you get. We hope that they will understand that they are only being used as slaves.

[isv000]

Quote: Olesya Lesya

If you wanted a beautiful, rich and quiet life, to bathe in democratic champagne - this is what you get. We hope that they will understand that they are only being used as slaves.

The fairy tale is a lie and there is a hint in it, a lesson for our fellows. The vein won’t make much, the relocant won’t last long...

[Popandos]

Even those citizens who managed to travel abroad legally are considered draft dodgers.

Also a reason for me
Everyone march to the trenches, the white overseas gentleman told everyone to die for the crap, that means to die

[rotmistr60]

The nation of “ancient Ukrainians” fled across Europe and Canada, not wanting to sacrifice their lives for the sake of something unknown (I’m already in the EU), and Zelensky threw another surprise at them, and Duda supported them. And now it’s like in Europe, but on a bird’s license - where can the “poor” Svidomo go, who can he ask for protection from? You will not find peace anywhere in the Maidan races - in Ukraine in the ground, in Europe in the homeless.

[Nastia makarova]

are already going to Asia where they won’t catch them

[Mouse]

Europe is tired of playing blogging... the Ukrainians are out of their minds....

[isv000]

The money paid for processing passports (and Ukrainian embassies and consulates charge $130 for this service) is, of course, not returned.

There is no issue from Dnipro! Whatever the hell got into your hands is gone...

[Yuri L]

Everyone finally received the Maidan panties they dreamed of in 2014 in full and free travel to Geyropa. But upon closer examination, the panties turned out to be underwear under the equipment, and free travel remained only at LBS. Amen, Maydowns.

[singless]

go back to your ass chubby.yyyy.

[Grossvater]

in the eyes of Kyiv, even those citizens who managed to travel abroad legally are considered draft dodgers.

Not certainly in that way. The draft dodgers are everyone who is still alive.

[Oleg Apushkin]

The Ministry of Health of the Russian Federation warns that jumping with pots on your heads is harmful to health, which contributes to the development of a high percentage of deaths and the absence of limbs.