Experts predict a rapid increase in the tax burden on wealthy Russian citizens

One of the main elements of the Russian tax system is the personal income tax (NDFL). And as part of the tax reform in our country, its scale may change.

This is what experts from the ACRA (Analytical Credit Rating Agency) agency suggest, who conducted a study on the topic “Increasing progression in the tax system of the Russian Federation.”

Experts predict a rapid increase in the tax burden on wealthy Russian citizens. In their opinion, this will happen if the personal income tax scale is expanded to 3-5 steps. At the same time, the tax rate for citizens with higher incomes could be raised by 2-3 percentage points.

Agency analysts suggest that such an innovation could come into force as early as 2025. The high probability of this step is also indicated by the statement of Russian President Vladimir Putin, made in February in his message to the Federal Assembly. In it, he said that the tax burden on wealthy citizens should be increased.

ACRA specialists have carefully studied various foreign taxation systems. In those of them where a progressive scale operates, there are usually five stages. Each of them differs on average from the previous one by five percent. At the same time, about thirty countries in the world use a “flat” tax scale for citizens.

It is precisely this system of taxing Russians with personal income tax, providing for a flat rate of 13 percent, that existed in Russia until 2021. Then in our country they began to impose an increased tax on citizens with an income of more than five million rubles a year at a rate of 15 percent. Thus, the personal income tax scale in Russia now has two levels.

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[Vladimir Vladimirovich Vorontsov]

“Experts predict a quick increase in the tax burden on wealthy citizens of Russia" -

- Thank God, this is not about me!...

[SEVERIN]

Vladimir Vladimirovich Vorontsov
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Today, 09: 40
- Thank God, this is not about me!...

- who knows, who knows - whether our pensioners will be considered wealthy citizens, unexpectedly the president postponed retirement by several years, maybe some kind of multi-step is supposed here.

[Esaul]

Putin said that citizens who receive more than 17 thousand rubles a month are considered wealthy. So this most likely applies to everyone.

[Blackmokona]

Quote: Esaul

Putin said that citizens who receive more than 17 thousand rubles a month are considered wealthy. So this most likely applies to everyone.

About everyone except poor oligarchs and other friends

[Romanenko]

Thus, the personal income tax scale in Russia now has two levels. At the same time, the tax rate for citizens with higher incomes could be raised by 2-3 percentage points.

Higher income compared to what? Minimum wage? Or 10-15-100 million a year?

[fif21]

Quote: Romanenko

Higher income compared to what?

There will be no progressive tax scale, no luxury tax. Bees against honey? This is from the realm of fantasy. How then can Moscow henpecked women please their kept women? Just as there won’t be a digital ruble, who will want to take bribes with “colored” money?

[bk316]

There will be no progressive tax scale, no luxury tax.

So she is ALREADY progressive.

[Lev_Russia]

...an imminent increase in the tax burden on wealthy Russian citizens

Are you sure that it is the wealthy ones...??? And how much is secured in monetary terms...??? Until now, it was just the opposite, and as long as Gref and Nabiullina command our economic bloc, we can’t expect any deep changes... The really rich won’t be touched anyway... Well, or they will completely go into the gray zone from which today at least something... then it looks... It’s in the States that people face huge sentences for non-payment of taxes... In our country everything is still much softer and more liberal...

[faterdom]

Timur Ivanov has an interesting neighbor in his dacha.
They call Anton Germanovich, he’s so bald...
When they notice it, then I will believe in the new vector of monetary policy..

[fif21]

Quote: faterdom

Timur Ivanov has an interesting neighbor in his dacha.
They call Anton Germanovich, he’s so bald...

Who will jail him? He's a monument! Doesn’t run to the US embassy, ​​doesn’t travel to NATO countries, and doesn’t seem to be henpecked

[Optimus Prime]

But what about those who don’t pay taxes at all?

[your1970]

But what about those who don’t pay taxes at all? my neighbor down the street has been unemployed since 1993, official beggar - wife’s salary is about 20 for 000 people receiving subsidies.
He has his own KAMAZ registered in region 05.
By 2019, his mother-in-law bought an apartment in Bulgaria in a village on the 2nd line by the sea - so that the children would spend the summer at the sea...
The most anecdotal thing is that when I compared him to the oligarchs because of non-payment of taxes, he was offended, “I’m working!!”
The nearest department of the Federal Tax Service after the last layoffs is 200 km away and there are 3 employees there - they will never be able to check it for illegal commerce...
Of those 17 million “poor type” - those without paying taxes, without registering a case, with a black/gray salary in an envelope, at least 80%

[Nastia makarova]

Why can't they check it? maybe even more!!! Doesn't he have bank cards? accounts?

[your1970]

Why can't they check it? maybe even more!!! Doesn't he have bank cards? accounts? are you serious? we have all trade ran away With card payments, only networkers are left. Commission, Federal Tax Service and so on...
They are not - they showed the store’s profit was 1 million per year, and the turnover of funds in accounts was up to 30 million per month. Naturally, the Federal Tax Service began to fire at them...
Cash and cash only, maximum transfer to card

[Nastia makarova]

in every small stall and shop we have everything by card, even pies are sold by card, apparently they haven’t gotten it in your region yet

[your1970]

It was all gone in cash a long time ago. Even in COVID times

[Nastia makarova]

and in our country cash has disappeared as such (Sochi) from 5000 thousand they will give change in small stores only 30%, there is no cash, and only grandmothers with greens do not have cash registers))))) but these grandmothers also accept payment by phone number i.e. To. people don't have cash

[your1970]

In the South, there have always been problems with surrender. Now, apparently, banks have begun to take more interest

[Nastia makarova]

Our tax office has been working hard for the last 5-7 years.

[your1970]

We have 5 departments left in the region, of which ours has only 3 people and it is 200 km from us

[Nastia makarova]

We also had a lot of employees removed when they created the electronic system, you can’t hide from it when everything goes cashless

[your1970]

you can’t hide from her when everything goes cashless Well, what am I talking about
Cash, cash...

[bk316]

Cash, cash...

There will be no unaccounted cash soon.
Almost everything is already in Moscow.

[your1970]

There will be no unaccounted cash soon.
Almost everything is already in Moscow.
Here it is right now - answered a little lower
"My wife's sister is a salesperson in St. Petersburg, salary is 11 belay, like half the rate belay - on top of 000 they give in an envelope.
A neighbor (another) in Moscow with his sons on a garbage truck - he has 22 (000 in an envelope) they have 50 (on top of 000).
Our sailors - 40 on a salary card, from the office, on a wife’s card another 000 from an individual
And this is true everywhere - even in your 10 cities.

[Zoer]

Quote: your1970

It was all gone in cash a long time ago. Even in COVID times

No. I know only one small store, with fishing goods, where they give a 10% discount for paying in cash, and then there is a terminal, and the main purchases are through a bank, card, QR code. This is St. Petersburg and Leningrad Region. Maybe somewhere in a remote village, where in stores they sell money on credit and keep a notebook for accounting, maybe there it’s only cash. But this is such a small thing that it’s even funny to discuss.

[your1970]

Maybe somewhere in a remote village, where shops sell loans on credit and keep notebooks, - Saratov region, the cities of the region are small - everywhere in stores cash or transfer to a card.
Cards are only available in networks such as Magnit, pharmacies, mobile operators, gas stations and large construction stores.

[Zoer]

Quote: your1970

or transfer to a card.

So, do you think that the bank doesn’t see who and how much is being transferred to the card? So they figure out that the card is used for calculations, i.e. for business, and they block it very quickly if it is registered as a physics degree. Well, on the legal card, taxes, etc. are calculated in the same way. They don’t install terminals simply because the state needs to pay some amount for it every month.

[your1970]

So, do you think that the bank doesn’t see who and how much is being transferred to the card? So they figure out that the card is used for calculations, i.e. for business, and they block very quickly if it is registered as a physics degree
1) the bank is not the Federal Tax Service
2) this is a real working method of tax evasion.
3) cash also creates problems for trade

[Zoer]

1. Nevertheless, all this is transparent.
2. For the time being. And only for small individual entrepreneurs.

[your1970]

1. 4 no less, all this is transparent.
2. For the time being. And only for small individual entrepreneurs. you may not notice, but it's "everything is transparent"doesn't work for ALL (!!) levels.
Otherwise, we wouldn’t have golden toilets from traffic cops and Blinovskaya (she’s the only dishonest fleacher in the whole country??)

[Zoer]

Quote: your1970

You may not notice, but this “everything is transparent” does not work at ALL (!!) levels.
Otherwise, we wouldn’t have golden toilets from traffic cops and Blinovskaya (she’s the only dishonest fleacher in the whole country??)

We have traffic cops with golden toilets not because they collect taxes from the people poorly, but because there is no need for officials to justify their wealth to the state. From the last one. Deputy MO Ivanov, only one mansion is a billion. WHERE? No one had any questions. Do you think you saved on taxes?
But the Federal Tax Service does not work. A simple example. A car mechanic I know, he is an individual entrepreneur and a partner. Tax turnover of up to 1 million per year according to the simplified version was shown. The Federal Tax Service demanded payment in full from 5 million. I don’t know how they got wind of it. A man works for cash.

[your1970]

Do you understand what you are writing?????
First write about:
So, do you think that the bank doesn’t see who and how much is being transferred to the card? So they figure out that the card is used for calculations, i.e. for business, and they block it very quickly if it is registered as a physics degree.
Then suddenly:
From the last one. Deputy MO Ivanov, only one mansion is a billion. WHERE? No one has Issues what a driver.
Why should the bank rush at our physicist-trader with his 5 million deposits per month and not rush at the physicist Ivanov/traffic cop with his (conditionally!!) 5 million deposits?
There is no difference between them for the bank!!!
But according to your logic, the bank should suspect trading in the first case and not react in any way in the second...

[Zoer]

Quote: your1970

Why should the bank rush at our physicist-trader with his 5 million deposits per month and not rush at the physicist Ivanov/traffic cop with his (conditionally!!) 5 million deposits?
There is no difference between them for the bank!!!
But according to your logic, the bank should suspect trading in the first case and not react in any way in the second...

IT'S FIVE!!! I did not expect to encounter such naivety.
Of course, ALL of our officials launder kickbacks through Sber cards!

[your1970]

"Of course, ALL of our officials launder kickbacks through Sber cards! wassat" that is, up to you slowly but surelyOh it comes:
1) that there is plenty of cash, just mountains in circulation
2) that there are a lot of ways to circumvent the law and the Federal Tax Service
3) that the banks are just above the knee - what’s going on in the physicists’ accounts, as long as the money goes to the bank?

Bravo! You confirmed all my arguments and even refuted yours a little.

[Zoer]

Quote: your1970

oh, slowly but surely it dawns on you:
1) that there is plenty of cash, just mountains in circulation
2) that there are a lot of ways to circumvent the law and the Federal Tax Service
3) that the banks - just above the knee feel - that they are spinning around in the accounts of physicists, as long as the money goes to the bank.

No, this doesn’t quite dawn on you, but you keep trying to turn it inside out...
1) Nobody denied this. But this does not prove in any way that taxes are not taken from this cash))) And even taking into account the same cashers, it is not so easy for ordinary businesses to evade taxes.
2) Of course there is, but not about our honor. I have already written about who is allowed to do what and who is not. The common man and businessman will be butchered very quickly and efficiently. They don’t touch their own. The deputy of the Moscow Region was one of his own. But something went wrong. Moreover. when laundering kickbacks, taxes are paid there, and more than once. But it's worth it)))
3) These are your personal fantasies. I know self-employed people, read tutors, whose cards were blocked by the bank because of “incomprehensible” transfers. As a result, I had to register as self-employed and pay taxes.

[bk316]

bank - not the Federal Tax Service

You are downright naive. ALL your transactions are available to the Federal Tax Service.
Everything is transparent AT ALL levels.
You can’t buy a car, real estate, or jewelry without being exposed.
You can’t buy currency, travel abroad and not show up

And in Moscow there is practically no cash anymore.
In stores, everyone, teenagers and pensioners, everyone pays with cards.
Everyone pays for travel on public transport and for apartments with cards.
For gasoline with cards.
Online purchases, and this is more and more - with cards.

And that's just part of it.
Almost all pensions, benefits, 90% of salaries and 100% of salaries of state employees are on cards.
Making an appointment with a doctor, grades at school and, by the way, traveling in transport.
Glonass era, 100000 cameras around the city.
Tracking of ALL guards.
Tomorrow has already come, and you overslept.

[your1970]

Glonass era, 100000 cameras around the city.
Tracking of ALL guards.
Tomorrow has already come, and you overslept.
7 years ago, a man here stabbed his wife and a man to death in front of their children, out of jealousy. Escaped. They put him on the All-Russian wanted list. Lived in Moscow near Profsoyuznaya, worked as a driver. I did not change my passport or documents. registered(!!!!!) in the company's apartment - they had 3 communal apartments for the workers... Last year I came to a funeral, got drunk, got into a fight, beat a man to death. Caught. The cops say - when they did everything in AU there were requests - white work, deductions to the Pension Fund of the Russian Federation, fines, registration, native passport and license.
They imprisoned me. Wagner. Alive.

And this is in Moscow - where there is like a digital concentration camp, tracking fuefings and 100 million cameras.
For 6 years a man walked around the city, received fines, rode the subway and paid with cards....

[bk316]

cash everywhere in stores or transfer to card.

Well, it's under control.

[Blackmokona]

Quote: your1970

But what about those who don’t pay taxes at all?

It is impossible not to pay taxes in Russia. I bought gasoline and gave more than 70% of its cost to the state

[your1970]

It is impossible not to pay taxes in Russia. I bought gasoline and gave more than 70% of its cost to the state It’s elementary - get a familiar diesel locomotive driver. And he drains 100-200-300 liters of diesel fuel (depending on his qualifications) for 2/3 of the price.
Get a helicopter pilot you know and you have kerosene for half the price - for fueling winter diesel fuel.
Get an ambulance driver you know, and your gasoline is 10 rubles cheaper.
A familiar long-range driver...
Etc.....
And so

[Blackmokona]

Quote: your1970

It is impossible not to pay taxes in Russia. I bought gasoline and gave more than 70% of its cost to the state It’s elementary - get a familiar diesel locomotive driver. And he drains 100-200-300 liters of diesel fuel (depending on his qualifications) for 2/3 of the price.
Get a helicopter pilot you know and you have kerosene for half the price - for fueling winter diesel fuel.
Get an ambulance driver you know, and your gasoline is 10 rubles cheaper.
A familiar long-range driver...
Etc.....
And so

You are talking about the USSR. Now there are counters, cameras, GLONASS and other means of control everywhere

[your1970]

"Now there are counters, cameras, GLONASS and other means of control everywhere." yeah, the owners think the same thing naive. ...
They don’t know that the GLONASS sensor can be covered with an iron mug....

You are talking about the USSR. During the Soviet era, no one needed diesel fuel for free. We had gasoline in the fields in barrels where the sprinklers were running - put 2 gaskets and scoop it up with a bucket.

[Blackmokona]

Quote: your1970

They don’t know that the GLONASS sensor can be covered with an iron mug....

You can cover it, but the software will report a loss of signal with all that it entails.

[your1970]

Naturally he will tell you?
The fact of arrival at the destination will be. It is impossible to prove that this was the driver’s intent.
They are fined, but people run away from such owners

[cast iron]

You physically turn off the meter, waste time somewhere, and then turn it back on, only to drain the gas. I spent time stuck in traffic jams and burned up gasoline. How to check? Only total surveillance, car registrator and so on. But no one will do these things - it’s too expensive. I have a friend who has been using a company car for personal needs for years. And the car has a GPS beacon, which is familiar, it simply turns off physically when it needs to go somewhere. There is only one excuse - the signal was lost. And you can't prove it. There is no 24-hour receptionist in the car.

[bk316]

no one will deal with these - it’s too expensive

This is already working in Moscow.
And this despite the fact that in Moscow they are putting pressure on GPS.
Where are you even from?
From 404 or geyroaki?
How do you think they charge money for the Central Ring Road or the MCD?

[your1970]

This is already working in Moscow.
And this despite the fact that in Moscow they are putting pressure on GPS.
Where are you even from?
From 404 or geyroaki?
How do you think they charge money for the Central Ring Road or the MCD? what do you think all Does Russia travel along the Central Ring Road?
Just the whole thing - the whole thing is driving around payers?
Do you firmly believe that garbage trucks - I know this with 100% certainty - drive strictly with Geepies on? Don't they turn it off periodically?

Keep believing...

[Zoer]

Quote: your1970

make a friend of a diesel locomotive driver. And he drains 100-200-300 liters of diesel fuel (depending on his qualifications) for 2/3 of the price.
Get a helicopter pilot you know and you have kerosene for half the price - for fueling winter diesel fuel.
Get an ambulance driver you know, and your gasoline is 10 rubles cheaper.
A familiar long-range driver...

So, following Timur Ivanov, you will fly away very quickly. Even faster than himself))) My father-in-law at the DEPO back in the late 00xx had such familiar diesel locomotive drivers caught red-handed. And KAMAZ drivers with tanks along with them.
And in general, the system of thieves’ relationships (everything is done through acquaintances) is a dead-end branch, which was already the case at the end of the USSR.

[your1970]

And in general, the system of thieves’ relationships (everything is done through acquaintances) is a dead-end branch, which was already the case at the end of the USSR. the conversation was about impossibilities bypass the tax office.
Mountains of examples and ways to bypass the Federal Tax Service.
Some shift workers earn mountains of dough across the country, but at the same time - LEGALLY unemployed and poor...

I’m not saying that this is wonderful - I’m saying that such facts exist. And the tax office alone will not do anything about it. Especially when it is 200 km away and there are only 3 employees there.
And you confirm this:
"my father-in-law at the DEPO back in the late 00xx took such familiar diesel locomotive drivers red-handed"

[Zoer]

Quote: your1970

the conversation was about the impossibility of bypassing the tax office.
Mountains of examples and ways to bypass the Federal Tax Service.
Some shift workers earn mountains of dough all over the country, but at the same time they are LEGALLY unemployed and poor...

This is all pennies and for the time being. So even the tax authorities take out individual entrepreneurs at once, no matter how they mess with the cash and pretend to be “poor”.

[your1970]

It's all pennies and for the time being Well, not Moscow, of course, but I gave an example with a neighbor and KAMAZ. 30 years he pays nothing, nothing at all
And yes - he NOT IPeshnik , LEGALLY he is a beggar.....

There are 5 departments of the Federal Tax Service in the Saratov region, the nearest one is 200 km away (of 3 people) - so they won’t even be able to come and check it...

We were amused about the shifts - there is not enough money.... Half the country in black/gray work with a minimum wage salary like....

[Zoer]

Quote: your1970

Half the country in black/gray works with a minimum wage salary like....

Half the country is more than a strong exaggeration))) We have half the country living in 10 Russian cities)))

[your1970]

Half the country is more than a strong exaggeration))) We have half the country living in 10 Russian cities)))
And what does this change????
My wife's sister is a salesperson in St. Petersburg, salary 11 like half rate - on top they give 40 in an envelope.
A neighbor (another) in Moscow with his sons on a garbage truck - he has 22 (000 in an envelope) they have 50 (on top of 000).
Our sailors - 40 per salary card; another 000 per wife’s card.
And this is true everywhere - even in your 10 cities.
I don’t even want to remember about all sorts of freelancers, fleachers and other remote workers....

[Zoer]

Quote: your1970

My wife's sister is a salesperson in St. Petersburg, salary is 11 belay, like half the rate belay - on top of 000 they give in an envelope.
A neighbor (another) in Moscow with his sons on a garbage truck - he has 22 (000 in an envelope) they have 50 (on top of 000).
Our sailors - 40 per salary card; another 000 per wife’s card.
And this is true everywhere - even in your 10 cities.
I don’t even want to remember about all sorts of freelancers, fleachers and other remote workers....

This was the case 15 years ago. Are you telling lies?)))
Freelancers and fleachers are also starting to be pinched in full.

[your1970]

This was the case 15 years ago. Are you telling lies?))) 15 years ago in Magnit that’s how they paid the salary, but everyone else I named - in general without the decorations worked...
Take a closer look at life and you will learn a lot of new things.
Dad M. Baghdasaryan reported to the Federal Tax Service about 1 million income per year
And yes, a year later we haven’t heard about any more pinched bloggers. At least 1-2.
Ivleeva paid all taxes??

[Zoer]

Quote: your1970

5 years ago at Magnit belay they paid this salary, and all the others I named worked without registration at all...

Now in the magnet and in the fives everyone is working in white. Stop it already...

Quote: your1970

And yes, a year later we haven’t heard about any more pinched bloggers. At least 1-2.

Ivleeva was put into circulation. And also: Chekalina, Mitroshina. And these are just the first birds. Now the base will be worked on and everyone will be corralled. I have no doubt about this at all. There, only YOURSELF can pay pennies to the budget and withdraw billions to offshore companies.

[your1970]

Now in the magnet and in the fives everyone is working in white. Stop it already.. - haven’t you tried to read your opponent????
15(!!!!) years(!!!) ago(!!!)

I have no doubt about this at all.
As soon as the Central Indoor Market of Saratov switches from cash to non-cash and checks are cleared, we will discuss it then. In 10-15 years......

[Zoer]

Quote: your1970

15(!!!!) years(!!!) ago(!!!)

What does this have to do with 15 years ago? In the 90s, everything was black, so what?
Now you can’t hide from the tax office, well, if you’re a mere mortal. Your market is also under our care. You can’t trade there without opening an individual entrepreneur. Opened an individual entrepreneur - by default you pay a certain minimum. Even though you work there entirely for cash. And even if the turnover is large, they will still calculate it and make a demand. I gave an example.

[your1970]

Stop it already.. this was your slogan of distrust.
Your market is also under our care. You can’t trade there without opening an individual entrepreneur. there are individual entrepreneurs only for manufactured goods - there are no physicists on the products, there are no cash registers.

Your example - you understand perfectly well that if he took cash and did not immediately put it on his card, it is impossible to track him down - even if his accomplice would rat him out.
Turnover small grocery store opposite my house - about 2 million per month. We transfer to the MIR Sber card or cash.
And for some reason, the tax authorities haven’t gotten to them in 12 years - although they even have the building registered as a “shop” (it is possible to register simply as non-residential and the tax rate is lower).

[Zoer]

Quote: your1970

Your example - you understand perfectly well that if he took cash and did not immediately put it on his card, it is impossible to track him down - even if his accomplice would rat him out.

Why did you decide that if he is a car mechanic, then he must be a cretin? Why put all the cash on your card? Most likely they were hit with the supply of spare parts from a major supplier. We have learned to work in the Federal Tax Service well, there is no need to harbor illusions.

Quote: your1970

The turnover of the small grocery store opposite my house is about 2 million per month. We transfer to the MIR Sber card or cash.
And for some reason the tax authorities haven’t gotten to them in 12 years - although they even have the building registered as a “store”

This means taxes are paid regularly. Have you ever thought about this?

[your1970]

This means taxes are paid regularly. Have you ever thought about this? because the store of my classmate and first love is me I know that they pay virtually no taxes.
Most likely they were hit with the supply of spare parts from a major supplier.
The FCS has been struggling with parcels from Aliexpress for 20 years. They limited the amounts to anecdotal ones, the number of parcels to a minimum, etc. Nevertheless, they traded in this way and still trade.
To get through supplies, it is necessary for a large supplier to provide them with ALL reporting. Taking into account 248-FZ and 336 resolutions, this is nonsense....
By the way, read them - to reduce optimism....

[Zoer]

Quote: your1970

since the store is my classmate and first love - I know that they practically do not pay taxes.

I even remembered the officer’s daughter!)))

Quote: your1970

The FCS has been struggling with parcels from Aliexpress for 20 years. They limited the amounts to anecdotal ones, the number of parcels to a minimum, etc. Nevertheless, they traded in this way and still trade.

When was the last time you took something from Alika? Is it just fair? I haven’t taken anything there for several years now, because there’s no point. Prices are the same as on Ozone or Yandex. Why don't you think about this?

[your1970]

I even remembered the officer’s daughter!))) Well, since you don’t believe me for the third time, there is no point in discussing.
Z.Y.
We have a small town and all the traders are in sight, sellers and others - NOT are silent.

[bk316]

Mountains of examples and ways to bypass the Federal Tax Service.

You just don't understand anything at all.

[Optimus Prime]

Everyone around me is like this and the authorities criticize me for how bad my life is. Some taxi drivers, lumberjacks, builders, etc. Get drunk and show off in front of me, saying I’m a slave and they’re handsome. I ask how much they pay in taxes and from what contributions do their parents receive a pension?.... Then we sit in silence or argue even more..

[svan26]

Now 0-5 million the rate is 13%, 5 million and above -15%, they want to do, and this is exactly what is being discussed, 10 million and above 18%. Most people won't be affected, and the rich will pay a little more. Among the rich with large official salaries are the management of state corporations and banks. What is the point of taking into the budget what is paid from the budget? Large private businesses do not legalize their income through wages...

[Boa kaa]

Everyone says that life is good in Sweden. They even talk about Swedish socialism. This is true. What about their taxes?

The average Swede pays at least 30 percent of taxes on what he earns, and the more a person earns, the more taxes he pays - Sweden has a progressive tax scale. For earnings from 0 to 426 CZK per year, income tax will be 300%, from 0 CZK to 426 CZK per year - 300%, over 604 CZK per year - 700%.
In addition to income tax, you need to pay regional tax, its amount depends on your place of residence.

Maybe that’s why they live well and feel socially protected?

[PROXOR]

They live well, because the average Swedish salary is 5-8 average Russian ones. And at the same time, I further reduced the number.

[Boa kaa]

Quote: PROXOR

The average Swedish salary is 5-8 average Russian ones. And at the same time, I further reduced the number.

Then tell me: how many times more expensive is life in Sweden than in Russia? In terms of purchasing power parity, the Russian Federation is in 5th place in the world, and Sweden is in 39th place! And if you are planning to live in Sweden with your wasted rent, then yes, you will be on full social security. Just learn the language, otherwise in a year you will hang yourself or run away back to the “Ridna Batkovism”!

[PROXOR]

I give you a FAT minus. For insult.

[Bolt cutter]

How many times more expensive is life in Sweden than in Russia?

Been there, seen it, thought it. Thirty to forty percent maximum.

[bk316]

Been there, seen it, thought it. Thirty to forty percent maximum.

Well, why are you lying like that?
Their gasoline is more than 3 times more expensive.
Grub depending on the quality 2-4 times.
Well, the booze is understandable.
And taxes - personal income tax 30%

So it's not 30% in 300%
And this is rich Sweden, and the Finns are simply beggars in terms of standing with them.

[Bolt cutter]

Grub depending on the quality 2-4 times.

In Stockholm, they are about 10-20% more expensive than in London, and the prices in London we once discussed with forum members, to the displeasure of the latter, are not much higher than in Moscow.

gasoline is more than 3 times more expensive.

For the difference in the price of a car (RF vs SE) you can buy 2-3 tons of gasoline. In addition, by paying for expensive gasoline you are paying for good roads.

booze is understandable.

Drink and smoke not necessary. Although it depends on who.

Finns are simply beggars when it comes to being with them.

It's a little more expensive there, with salaries comparable to Swedish ones.
I checked it personally. Leave tales about chicken for 100 bucks to those who have never traveled further than Turkey.

[Andrey1978]

One of the bloggers came to the employment center in a Gelika, covered in gold, and tried to register.... What to do with such beggars? The wealthy, if pressed, will compensate at the expense of the middle class, or they will say that they are very rich, and they will be believed. Every resident of the Russian Federation could have a personal yacht with a crew in Dubai, people just don’t buy it, not because their income doesn’t allow it, people just don’t want yachts....

[Adrey]

Experts predict a rapid increase in the tax burden on wealthy Russian citizens

Looks like the title has hit the nail on the head for once. If we take a five-stage gradation: Beggar - Low-income - Wealthy - Rich - Super-rich, then it’s not difficult to guess who will end up under the skating rink.

[Ross xnumx]

Quote: Adrey

If we take a five-stage gradation: Beggar - Low-income - Wealthy - Rich - Super-rich, then it’s not difficult to guess who will end up under the skating rink.

The gradation should be taken as follows:

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[antiaircrafter]

This is all nonsense. It is not taxes on income that should be increased, but taxes on expenses should be introduced. By introducing a progressive VAT scale.
At the same time, basic goods and services should not be subject to VAT - bread, sugar, milk, public transport and housing and communal services.
But all sorts of gold jewels, high-status cars and other yachts and planes are subject to VAT at a higher rate, and the country of origin is not important.
Thus, even unearned income will bring income to the budget through VAT.
Well, the real estate tax will also be increased proportionately.

[your1970]

Well, the real estate tax is also proportionate to enlarge.- after which the Maskviches - owners of 2-3 rental apartments - will cut them out in a day ANY(even Soviet or capitalist) power.

[antiaircrafter]

Maybe it's not so bad.

[Nastia makarova]

those who rent out apartments have already been taken into circulation

[your1970]

those who rent out apartments have already been taken into circulation practically funny...
In Moscow, according to Rosreestr, about 10 years ago there were owners of 2 or more apartments - about 120
And these are only those owners where housing is registered for one person.
Where there is 1 on the husband, one on the wife, 1 on the child - they have one for each ONE apartment and what they have THREE in a family - it’s quite difficult to identify...

[Nastia makarova]

Where there is 1 on the husband, one on the wife, this is according to the law, but there is 1 on whom there are 3 apartments each, the account into which the amount is received every month is also blocked, then you have to go to the bank to prove

[your1970]

Where there is 1 on the husband, one on the wife, this is according to the law, but there is 1 on whom there are 3 apartments each, the account into which the amount is received every month is also blocked, then you have to go to the bank to prove Our shift workers pay in cash. ..

[Nastia makarova]

Well, there is cash, of course, and it also happens that the owner of the apartment is in another city, so cash is difficult

[your1970]

Thousands of ways to transfer - from banal sending to the phone and withdrawal through services (I agree the percentage is a decent one down the drain) and purchases through Avito to criminal types, a card for a dead person (costs 5 bucks on the darknet)

[Nastia makarova]

damn, why are there such difficulties?))))) if the money is legal, then it’s easier to switch to non-cash, a program is already underway in many regions to completely abandon cash by 99%, in our country it’s already difficult to pay for some services in cash, rent for example

[your1970]

if the money is legal, it’s easier to switch to non-cash, - in Sochi, residents report to the tax office Each the tenant who rented their apartment? I believe....
Apparently you don’t rent out your house during the holiday season...
And so - the toad strangles people....

[Nastia makarova]

we rent out a residential garage, but I told you that they catch those who rent out, of course they don’t catch 100% of them, but still, now they themselves pay a lot from the rent, which is why prices for renting housing have increased

[your1970]

Now they themselves pay a lot from the change are they the ones who illegally build on 2-3-5 floors - then pay taxes honestly?
If my relative had not served there with you, I would have believed in the purity of my thoughts.
And prices have increased for everyone - including those who NOT pays taxes. Is that strange??

[Nastia makarova]

who also arranges a mini hotel there and pays taxes))))
and as with everything, several sellers raised prices and didn’t stop buying, and the rest will raise them

[Electrical]

Thus, even unearned income will bring income to the budget through VAT.

Bribe takers and embezzlers will introduce a tax on bribery and embezzlement? Well, come on, this isn’t even a utopia, it’s just fantasy.

[Esaul]

Then the economy will begin to return more and more to the black-gray zone, as it was in the 90s. It would be better to fight with gray salaries, of which there are still plenty of them where they pay.

[Ross xnumx]

Quote: Esaul

It would be better to fight with gray salaries, of which there are still plenty of them where they pay.

It is very easy to fight gray wages. It is enough to ratify Art. 20 of the UN Convention as it should be. But with us everything is cancer:

The contradiction with the legislation of the Russian Federation is expressed, first of all, in the absence in Russian law of a legal definition of “illegal enrichment”.

How can one determine whether this enrichment is legal or illegal?
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And progressive taxation, in which someone supposedly stops paying taxes, is an income regulator. It is not in the country because the government in the country is bourgeois and stamps laws for itself...
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Tell me, is prostitution, trafficking in drug products, fraud in the fishing industry, speculation in metals, etc., a legal business?
There are bodies in the country that can take ANY ENTREPRENEUR by the gills who starts doing who knows what (at least without reason raising prices for goods and services).

[Mavrikiy]

In this case, about thirty countries of the world use a “flat” tax scale for citizens.

Which countries are highly developed? Or Afro-Latin American? Why did you shut up in the most interesting place? And we want to be like them?
specialists from the agency ACRA (Analytical Credit Rating Agency) Ordinary liberal scoundrels.

The General Director since April 2020 is Mikhail Sukhov[6]. The board of directors includes: Carl Johansson (Chairman of the Board of Directors, USA), Anuar Hassoun (Luxembourg), Klaus Mangold (Germany), Vladimir Gusakov (Russia), Alexander Voloshin (Russia)[7].

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[sdivt]

Quote: Vladimir Vladimirovich Vorontsov

Thank God this is not about me!

Well, you know, if there was a choice
If given a choice, I would rather choose to be the most secure, and pay a higher tax, than to be unsecured, but with the same tax
But, again, there would be a choice
And no one will give it to us
Therefore, I’m almost sure that all of us (at least many of us) will be transferred to conditionally secure status through some clever maneuvers, with all the consequences)

[Miller]

Soon? From January 1.01.2024, 13, the tax burden on the “wealthiest citizens”[media=http://][media=http://], which are the chairmen of the councils of apartment buildings (seniors in the house), has been increased. Remuneration collected by residents is now subject to income tax - 30% and contribution to the SFR - 43%. Only XNUMX% of income. In addition, pensioners in this position will not have their pension indexed.