Deputy Minister of Defense of Russia Timur Ivanov, who was present at the department's board a few hours ago, was detained

Deputy Minister of Defense of the Russian Federation Timur Ivanov, who a few hours ago, on April 23, took part in a meeting of the departmental board, was detained. Let us recall that the head of the ministry, Sergei Shoigu, spoke at the board, talking about the state of affairs at the front and in the military-industrial complex.

A statement from the press secretariat of the Investigative Committee states that Timur Ivanov was detained on suspicion of receiving a bribe on a particularly large scale. He faces a penalty of imprisonment for up to 15 years under Part 6 of Article 290 of the Russian Criminal Code. Also, part of the punishment may be (in addition to a prison sentence) a fine in an amount that is 70 times the amount of the bribe.

The Kremlin press service reported that Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu and President Vladimir Putin were informed of the situation in advance.

So far there is no word on the specific amount of the bribe. However, people familiar with the case say that we are not even talking about tens of millions of rubles in total.

At one time, Timur Ivanov headed Oboronstroy. His face often appeared on screens during the coronavirus pandemic, when prefabricated hospital complexes were created throughout the country through Oboronstroy.

For reference: Ivanov is 49 years old. He was born in Moscow. In 1997 he graduated from Moscow State University with a degree in Computational Mathematics and Cybernetics. He received a PhD in economics, worked in the fuel and energy complex, then went to work for the government of the Moscow region. He is married to Svetlana Zakharova, who was previously the wife of one of the major businessmen and, according to some publications, also has citizenship of one of the foreign countries, however, information about her foreign citizenship has not been officially confirmed.

Comments

[Thrifty]

A hundred pounds that by May 9 he will be amnestied, or the case will completely fall apart, and then they will quietly reward him - the Kremlin does not allow “its” to be offended!

[g_ae]

He will go to Israel. They love such “enterprising” people there and are always ready to accept them.

[sifgame]

How will he go, he’s under arrest?

[Xnumx vis]

Quote: sifgame

How will he go, he’s under arrest?

At low speed and preferably in parts...

[Machito]

Ivanov’s corrupt activities caused great damage to the country’s defense capability during the Northern Military District. Taking into account the fact that the deputy minister’s wife is an Israeli citizen, and the children are studying abroad, it is time to raise the question of high treason. And there will be other deadlines. Ivanov will be released into freedom, like Navalny, feet first.

[Penzyak]

It’s a pity that he can’t even be sent to Wagner - and he can’t fight, and he’ll sell food, food, and supplies for money.

[man]

Quote: Penzyak

It’s a pity that he can’t even be sent to Wagner - and he can’t fight, and he’ll sell food, food, and supplies for money.

Yeah, but if you force him to dig trenches, he’ll bring in a shovel too.

[ramzay21]

The news is certainly good, just remember that he and Shoigu have spent 60 trillion on the repair and construction of 2013 buildings in St. Petersburg alone since 1. rubles After such figures, it is immediately clear why the Ministry of Defense does not have money for UAVs, communications and thermal imagers.
First of all, this is an approach to Shoigu, because the inauguration is just around the corner and this is a good reason not to appoint Shoigu as the new Minister of Defense. The current chief cannot simply kick out such a respected person, even a mediocrity and saboteur, because he did nothing wrong to the chief.
Well, the head of the family of Israeli citizens will naturally be released after pretending to the scammer the appearance of a severe punishment. All this already happened with Taburetkin and Vasilyeva, as a result, the former minister witnessed that someone unknown for the money of the Moscow Region built 60 km of asphalt road on his site, and Vasilyeva only managed to get to the colony and did not even spend the night there.

[boni592807]

ramzay21. (Vasily).. Yesterday, 12:20. yours - "...The news is certainly good,..."

It's better this way.... than in the situation with Saddam ...
Let's not forget about the donkey with sacks... who took more fortresses than all the armies in the world.
Better prevention. than treatment in advanced form...during a crisis period

[flicker]

First of all, this is an approach to Shoigu

This is not Shoigu's man. They crossed paths with Shoigu only in 2012.
Timur Ivanov's career began earlier.

from 1999 to 2012 - at enterprises of the Russian fuel and energy complex. He held the positions of Advisor to the First Deputy General Director for Economics and Finance - Executive Director of the Rosenergoatom Concern, Vice President of Atomstroyexport CJSC, Deputy Chairman of INTER RAO UES OJSC. In 2009-2012 - General Director of the Russian Energy Agency of the Ministry of Energy of the Russian Federation[4].

Since 1999, "adviser to the first deputy general director for economics and finance - executive director of the Rosenergoatom concern" not bad for a 24-year-old
Rather, he owes his career to Igor Yusufov (a Mountain Jew, a native of Derbent) who served as Russian Minister of Energy from 2001 to 2004, and before that from 1998 to 2001, chairman of Rosrezerv.
---
So Ivanov’s roof is not Shoigu (it’s more likely that “Jews” are involved)

[Gardamir]

This is where you are wrong. Navalny wanted power. And this one is the same as everyone else.
By the way, I don’t understand why these tales about bribes are needed. Here pipes burst and entire areas are flooded. And he has money for the regional budget. They don’t write about others because they didn’t raise the required amount?
This is the “get rich by any means” ideology.

[Lionnvrsk]

Quote: Bearded

Taking into account the fact that the deputy minister’s wife is an Israeli citizen, and the children study abroad,

The Voevoda spoke wonderfully about this:
"The United States approved money for Ukraine.

Our people responded by dispossessing Ivanov.

Both here and there, the amounts are the same plus or minus"

[Sergej1972]

Strictly speaking, these are his wife's children.

[T.A.V.]

And what's the difference? His wife's children study with the money of his wife, who did not take a penny from her husband's money because... clear conscience like a baby?

[Krasnoyarsk]

Quote: Bearded

Ivanov's corruption activities caused great damage

When will they get drunk?
And when, in the end, they pass a law stating that a civil servant, whether civilian or military, should not have any connections with foreign countries.
If you want your children to study and, or live overseas, quit the civil service. There is no other way to get rid of these...coves.
But who will pass such a law? Almost all of our legislators have, if not children, then property overseas. And bees are never against honey.....
In the Duma elections, do not choose those who have such connections with foreign countries.
Each candidate should be examined under a “microscope” before voting for him. This is a political question!

[Qas]

Who did you write this order to? To us, ordinary readers? So our words cannot be converted into a legal act, and deputies will not accept this against themselves, their loved ones.

[newtc7]

That’s how we choose parties) United Russia after all. I’m sure 70 percent will be recruited this time, because there will be no alternative anyway

[Hypertension]

I wonder where he messed up for real, and why did they decide to condemn him? Who will believe that his superiors did not know about his wife’s citizenship, about his son abroad and his love for unearned income?

[Quiet Don]

Apparently he grabbed a surplus, not according to rank, or did not share, he was hiding, you understand.. Or maybe someone really is digging under Kuzhegetych and Ivanov decided to donate, put him in prison for a show, and then let him go on the brakes.

[AAK]

Damn, the media know everything about Ivanov and his wife “not Ivanova” - Maniovich (taking into account the number of all kinds of photos and videos on the Internet), but the two main Altai tourists had no idea about anything before...

[Vicontas]

This is obvious treason! They covered themselves with a bribe because it was creating too much of a scandal! After all, the deputy minister of defense is a person close to the emperor! And why was he guarded by the FSB for five years? Which is not very keen on taking bribes, but is increasingly focusing on politics? But in any case, it does not add respect to the power vertical!

[Vicontas]

It is curious that they are silent about the joint projects of Ivanov and Ksenia Shoigu. To transform the Kronstadt fortifications into tourist sites. The projects required at least three billion. If they are silent, it means the Shoigu family will be taken out of the attack. “It’s not Rafik’s fault - he’s good! You never know what dog was running around!”

[karabas-barabas]

Why are you all surprised here? Deputies-ministers have been talking about how generals of various departments, tramplers, etc. live for 20 years now. They have property in the West, children, citizenship, real estate. There is something to lose there, and anyone wondering why they are not particularly touched there is asking the right question.

[newtc7]

And what did they just now find out about his wife and children? And a year ago, two years ago, she was not an Israeli citizen?)
Just excuses, nothing more. It's strange that right now

[AllX_VahhaB]

Quote: Bearded

Taking into account the fact that the deputy minister’s wife is an Israeli citizen, and the children are studying abroad, it is time to raise the question of high treason.

But I don’t understand how he became a general?

Graduated from Moscow State University with a degree in Computational Mathematics and Cybernetics. He received the title of Candidate of Economic Sciences, worked in the fuel and energy complex, then went to work for the government of the Moscow region.

[wladimirjankov]

But I don’t understand how he became a general?

How did Shoigu become our general, Defense Ministry and hero of Russia? Or is his secretary a major general? And the same Shoigu took care of his associate and confidant Ivanov. Who pulled him and kept him with him? First in Oboronstroy, where he did a lot of shady things. There was an article about this in the press about eight years ago. And then he attracted me to the high command of the Ministry of Defense, closer to him as his own person. In fact, it is Shoigu who should be responsible for this protege of his.

[Colonel MO]

He's not a general at all! This is the civilian uniform of an adviser of some higher rank.

[kig]

Quote: Bearded

Taking into account the fact that the deputy minister’s wife is an Israeli citizen, and the children study abroad

How did you brilliantly manage this? Children study abroad, and even the wife is a citizen - does that mean she is an enemy of the people? Do you know how many Ukrainian wives there are in the country, for example? So, all the men should be imprisoned?

[Nyrobsky]

Quote: g_ae

He will go to Israel. They love such “enterprising” people there and are always ready to accept them.

For him now, in the next ten years, instead of Israel, the “promised land” will be the village of Misha-Yag, near Pechora in the KOMI Republic. Clean air, white snow.

Quote: sifgame

How will he go, he’s under arrest?

So he will travel under arrest, that is, in a convoy, but in a “personal Stolypin” carriage, with personal security, i.e. under escort and at state expense.
A cunning beetle has finally come up with a way to ride like a hare for 10 years

[Sergei Fonov]

"Just don't go to Magadan
this is beyond my years
I'll get there by now
I'm afraid of the oak ladies"
"Filatov"

[Lionnvrsk]

Quote: Thrifty

A hundred pounds that by May 9 he will be amnestied, or the case will completely fall apart, and then they will quietly reward him - the Kremlin does not allow “its” to be offended!

You, dear man, will learn to write Russian without mistakes first, and only then will you emit gas and bile!

[Ivan№One]

“To begin with” - separated by commas

[Lionnvrsk]

Quote: Ivan№One

“To begin with” - separated by commas

Also “from Ukraine”?
“To begin with” is an adverb and does not require punctuation!
But if you really want to, you can put a comma after each letter!

[Krasnoyarsk]

Quote: g_ae

He will go to Israel. They love such “enterprising” people there and are always ready to accept them.

In Israel there are a dime a dozen of these “enterprising” people. Do you have any doubts?

[man]

Quote: g_ae

He will go to Israel. They love such “enterprising” people there and are always ready to accept them.

This is if he grabbed his assets

[karabas-barabas]

Do you think his assets are in Russia? I’ll tell you a secret, few people, businessmen or officials, keep their assets in Russia.

[man]

Quote: karabas-barabas

Do you think his assets are in Russia? I’ll tell you a secret, few people, businessmen or officials, keep their assets in Russia.

I just didn't express myself correctly. I wanted to say that Israel will only let him in if Ivanov takes his assets to Israel. When I realized it, the time for corrections had expired...

[karabas-barabas]

Quote: mann

Israel will only let him in if Ivanov takes his assets to Israel.

Israel does not extradite him for political reasons, but Ivanov was stupidly taken for corruption and therefore the Jews would have extradited him anyway. And for that matter, why would he take anything other than a bank card from a bank in Switzerland or the British Isles?

[man]

Quote: karabas-barabas

Quote: mann

Israel will only let him in if Ivanov takes his assets to Israel.

Israel does not extradite him for political reasons, but Ivanov was stupidly taken for corruption and therefore the Jews would have extradited him anyway. And for that matter, why would he take anything other than a bank card from a bank in Switzerland or the British Isles?

Come on, so many thieves fled there and no one was extradited.
By assets, I meant, first of all, money and real estate registered in the name of relatives, which can be sold. Ivanov’s wife, by the way, is already selling at a low price

[karabas-barabas]

It was Israel who handed over the thieves. If in the Russian Federation they want to imprison someone for political reasons, then they create an article about theft, or they invent something else. It is in such cases that Israel and others differentiate. And especially how and why to bring money and real estate to Israel? They simply declare real estate there, bank accounts here.

[man]

It was Israel who handed over the thieves.
Can you name at least a couple? This is not irony, I just really haven’t heard of such things

[Alexfly]

To Gaza to atone with blood? Just a joke.. It was in vain that hard labor for such people was canceled and the whole family was deported to Magadan..

[Ilya-spb]

It is necessary to fire all officials whose relatives have citizenship abroad.

[Nexcom]

This is an excellent and reasonable idea, an excellent proposal. But they really won’t go for it - then it will probably turn out that almost everyone will have to be kicked out. Who will be the bureaucrat??

[Ilya-spb]

So we need to kick everyone out! All idlers and fifth column!

Under Stalin they did not stand on ceremony at all. 10 years without the right to correspondence.

[Nexcom]

So I’m telling you - personally, I’m only FOR it. But those in power are unlikely to do this. They most likely have different criteria for resignation.....
And everything is clear about Stalin.... But there is no more Stalin, and there never will be. But the current ones are not up to it.

[sifgame]

Under Stalin, you and I have now left, you are like an English spy, and I am for insulting the Red commander and also like an English spy.

[Khibiny Plastun]

I think it makes no sense to apply Stalin to modern reality - WHO is Stalin and what is Putin? Then there was a cult, but there was also a Personality, and now a cult without a personality. Then there was a determination to act, now there is a determination to chat.

[aybolyt678]

Quote: Khibiny Plastun

Then there was a cult, but there was also a Personality, and now a cult without a personality.

Now he’s a personality without a cult... but at least he’s like Gorbieltsi.

[Khibiny Plastun]

Funny. During the Great War they went on the attack “For the Motherland, for Stalin.” Now, “for the Motherland, for Putin” is unscientific fiction, it’s even become funny. Although here they are constantly trying to impose on the people - Who else if not Putin? Stalin, during his 13 years of rule at 41, despite his mistakes, revived the State; Putin, during his quarter century in office, almost finished off Russia. His “successes” are the Minsk agreements and the importation of Central Asian savages on an industrial scale. Well, the rise in retirement age.

[Poplar]

During the Great War they went on the attack “For the Motherland, for Stalin”

I think they followed Stalin because they saw what the country had become after the Civil War and the accompanying devastation by the 40s. And now the generation that grew up in the USSR sees “successes” a little differently. That's the whole difference.

[Khibiny Plastun]

That's it. Then the Power was revived from the ashes. Now, wherever you go, education, medicine, they seem to exist, but they are, as it were, everything. Dust and ashes. Well, herds of Central Asian animals.

[newtc7]

Now there is only one profanation. They sign papers and try to show a picture, but the reality is very sad: occupation by migrants, complete merging of authorities and ethnic diasporas in a corruption frenzy, and so on.

[GIS]

Putin, in his quarter of a century in office, has almost finished off Russia

finished off???????
yes my friend you are blind
the humpback began a visible collapse (I won’t talk about the origins with Khrushchev) and Yeltsin finished it off. But the burden of the restoration of the Russian Federation fell on the shoulders of the GDP, or will you argue?
so in his place there could have been Yeltsin No. 2 or Khodorkovsky (Chubais, Navalny, and similar Kasyanovs) imagine then how the Russian Federation “existed” ... and existed at all, and not a bunch of isolated regions

[newtc7]

Well, and the strengthening of the power of the financial-industrial clans and the complete purge of the opposition.
I wonder how much he would have scored in a real vote

[Irokez]

Quote: Khibiny Plastun

what is Putin?

What are you? Any AI working according to a program (manual).

[Alexander Kuksin]

Don't flatter yourself.... It was the same under Stalin. Just a little differently. Look for the book *Atlantes and Careatids* at your leisure. Or at worst, a movie that was made based on this book. I remember my dad was so angry that he wrote a letter to the Central Committee, saying how can you show this to the people, how the party elite lives. Mom got scared and told him that he would be imprisoned. True, the Central Committee politely wrote back. :-)

[Pachvara]

The film is definitely "at worst". Even though Shamyakin praised the work of the group that filmed the television film and dad said that when it was broadcast on television, people “stuck” to the screens, but the novel is much stronger. PS and correctly “caryatids”.

[Gardamir]

Sorry for the minus, but the fifth column will not kick itself out.

[fif21]

Quote: Nexcom

But they really won’t go for it - then it will probably turn out that almost everyone will have to be kicked out.

Not surprised ! Corruption will destroy this country.

[aybolyt678]

Quote: fif21

Corruption will destroy this country.

There is no such fortress that a donkey loaded with gold cannot take.... We're still not that scared

[Trapp1st]

Not surprised ! Corruption will destroy this country.

This country is running on corruption.

[your1970]

This country is running on corruption. Yeah ....
Every time they took shifts in Torfyanovka/Brusnichny/Svyatogorsk, the Finnish customs shift had to be put in the same way. Because bribes are given for violations - and in this case they are identical....
But no...
Finland is in the top three with the least corruption in the world, and we are somewhere there - after Ukraine..

[Trapp1st]

I can assume that if corruption is removed from Finland, Finland will remain, but if it is removed from the Russian Federation, the state will cease to function. Do you understand the difference?

[your1970]

If from any countries to remove corruption - it will be the same as with the Russian Federation.
Just type "Corruption in..(any country)." And you will get so many cool things...

[Nyrobsky]

Quote: Trapp1st

Not surprised ! Corruption will destroy this country.

This country is running on corruption.

This is about the USA. Only, unlike us, their corrupt officials are legitimized and are called lobbies (lobbyists), who push the interests of various financial and corporate groups through Congress and receive a kickback for this.
Ours are not corrupt officials, but embezzlers.

[Irokez]

Quote: fif21

Corruption will destroy this country.

Corruption will destroy any country if it is allowed to develop. If there are arrests and imprisonments, then everything is fine for now.

[AAK]

So now (as in the past) only those who grabbed “inappropriately” or did not pay their due share are arrested and imprisoned...

[Irokez]

Quote: AAK

only those who grabbed “inappropriately” are arrested and imprisoned

Why do you think so? And where does this info come from? By analogy with abroad or something?

[newtc7]

Holy prostate. These arrests are just a picture for believers... this has nothing to do with the fight against corruption, on the contrary, this is what it is - namely, an imitation of the fight to continue corruption

[dweira63]

Sorry, please correct: “prostOta” and “prostAta” are different things. I think our urologists will have fun with the “holy prosta”)))))

[Penzyak]

Wow, there are a lot of “+” under the comment, but there was still one minus. Looks like someone involved is hanging around here, or just a bunch of burrs.

[sifgame]

And if they don’t release you, and Thrifty, will you eat your hat?

[Lionnvrsk]

Quote: sifgame

And if they don’t release you, and Thrifty, will you eat your hat?

No, the hopak will dance!

[Cat Alexandrovich]

No, he will go to evening school to learn Russian.

[hhurik]

Maybe he doesn’t have a leg - he lost it under the fortifications, by accident. The hat is again made from environmentally inedible materials, not like in the old days. You set unrealistic conditions.

Let him eat acorns Traditional, native, environmentally friendly, reduces the planet's carbon footprint.

[Thrifty]

hhurik - I’m not your competitor in terms of eating acorns, if only God hadn’t given you intelligence!!!!

[hhurik]

Do you disdain acorns?
To no avail.

[Thrifty]

Is LIONnvrsk your national dance? Or is Khave Nagiya your everything???

[Lionnvrsk]

Quote: Thrifty

Is LIONnvrsk your national dance? Or is Khave Nagiya your everything???

Your next idle talk only confirms the thought of Samuel Clemens that - It is better to remain silent and seem like a fool than to speak up and dispel all doubts.
Your logic is deadly - if I know the Russian language well, then that means I’m Ukrainian or Jewish!!
By the way, the song is called Hava Nagila. So intelligence should be desired not by hhurik (Leva Zadov), but by you yourself!

[Thrifty]

sifgafe - there’s nothing to write about the article, you decided to throw out your bile at me???

[sifgame]

This is a forum, I want to comment on the article, I want commentators. There is nothing to comment on the article yet.

[ser-pov]

Bastard!!! The country is at war, and he is stealing. They write that the wife is a “socialite.”

[Gardamir]

Come on, it's just his job.
https://www.compromat.ru/page_44001.htm

[suhorukofal]

What kind of publication is this beautiful, where there is this phrase:

Now he is the chief builder of Mariupol, which a normal person cannot wrap his head around.
First, their army completely destroyed the city (thousands of corpses, mass graves)

I am not going to justify this person, but such resources with such treatment do not inspire respect.

[Gomunkul]

suhorukofal(Alexey)

I agree with you, many of the phrases used on this site hurt the eyes, but there are photographs where well-known personalities appear throughout the country along with the deputy minister, and it is unlikely that this is photoshopped.

[suhorukofal]

So I’m not going to justify all this rotten elite. There, thief chases thief with thief, it’s strange that only one was closed, maybe there is some kind of internal intrigue. This expression, in the spirit of all sorts of non-twinists, with their cheap slogans, just hurt me.

[Gomunkul]

I don’t justify them either, at the top they know everything about each other.

[Essex62]

And this is exactly the situation with us. Someone fights, someone steals, someone is a socialite. What's unusual here? The times when everyone fought are in the distant past. There is no such attitude in society. Neither from the authorities, nor from society itself.

[Obi-Wan Kenobi]

Of course they will give amnesty.
I have always said that the guarantor and his fellow thieves-oligarchs will finish off Russia.
The day before yesterday it suddenly became clear that the Deputy Minister of Defense was a thief, a scoundrel and a bribe-taker!
His wife is an Israeli citizen, his children live in NATO countries.
What a twist! Well, who would have thought?
And no one in the Kremlin, nor in the FSB, nor in the Ministry of Defense knew anything bad about him.
The guarantor and the minister thought that Ivanov was good, but what a guy he is!
Poke at any deputy minister, you still won’t find out.

[private person]

One hundred pounds that by May 9 he will be amnestied

Most likely, he will suddenly have a heart attack or be diagnosed with an incurable disease. So that you don’t accidentally blurt out anything unnecessary. And like the Kremlin doesn’t give offense to its own people here anymore, since they started a case with publicity in the media. It would be possible to quietly drain it.

[wladimirjankov]

[quote][like the Kremlin doesn’t give offense to its own here anymore, since they started a case with publicity in the media. It would be possible to quietly leak it./quote]
Publicity in the media did not prevent the case of Serdyukov - Taburetkin and Vasilyeva from being quietly leaked. These people are not shy about anyone or anything. They don't care what they say or think about them. They have all the power.

[Black_Vatnik]

One hundred pounds that by May 9 he will be amnestied, or the case will completely fall apart

Another mom's lawyer?

[Thrifty]

What really don’t you like? Be patient and sing praises to the new old president more often!!!

[Andrey VOV]

Dear "Thrifty", do you understand the amnesty mechanism? How and by whom is it announced, what category of accused and convicted persons falls under it? Well, you might want to think a little bit before writing something wild.

[Trinitrotoluene]

a mathematician means that he apparently studied poorly, that he did not calculate.

[The popuas]

So it is with the wife, not with him...

[Nexcom]

ahhh, I looked in the wrong place. damn, I was wrong. I read it quickly...

[Egoza]

Quote: Popuas

So it is with the wife, not with him...

Husband and wife, one of Satan!

[Vladimir Vladimirovich Vorontsov]

“Russian Deputy Defense Minister Timur Ivanov was detained” -

— Timur is most likely not alone, there must be a “team”...
(I think so)

[Nexcom]

So of course. He was not the only one who directly met with those whom he milked. Obviously there were trusted persons and so on.
And this turns out to be a conspiracy - that is, a criminal group of individuals. This adds to the burden of responsibility.
In general, the mafia.....

[Nexcom]

I remembered: “Timur and his team” (c)

[vadimtt]

What times, such teams

[BecmepH]

Quote: Vladimir Vladimirovich Vorontsov

“Russian Deputy Defense Minister Timur Ivanov was detained” -

— Timur is most likely not alone, there must be a “team”...
(I think so)

In such cases, I ask myself: “Does the boss really not know what his first subordinate is doing?”

[wladimirjankov]

No self-respecting boss will tolerate his subordinate receiving kickbacks behind his back while he remains on the sidelines. Therefore, the boss selects the appropriate subordinate. But it seems to me that between Shoigu and Ivanov the relationship between boss and subordinate is purely conditional. Most likely they are partnerships given their long history.

[BecmepH]

Quote: wladimirjankov

But it seems to me that between Shoigu and Ivanov the relationship between boss and subordinate is purely conditional.

In your opinion, such a relationship involves creating chaos behind the boss’s back?

[Huarabey]

Of course there is a team. It’s cases like this that mean that the character is tired of this team, or simply got too greedy and insolent, and the team dumps him (jails him) in this way.

[UAZ 452]

Or they are digging for the team, and they started with him as a weak link (he glowed strongly, lost all fear).

[Lionnvrsk]

Quote: Vladimir Vladimirovich Vorontsov

— Timur is most likely not alone, there must be a “team”...

At one time, Timur Ivanov headed Oboronstroy

As for me, any bureaucrat who has worked in the construction of Moscow Region facilities for more than 2 years can be safely assigned to a bunk!

[BAI]

49 years old - army general? (this is the title). Yes, he is a military "genius". Commander of all times and peoples

[Nexcom]

In our sorrowful times, general's shoulder straps are given not at all for military science and military achievements, but for “convenience” and “loyalty.” Some non-military people were immediately given a general (and why bother with trifles).... I won’t point the finger - everyone understood. Well, of course, then all sorts of generals aged 37-40 years were trampled. Sur. Wherever you spit, you'll hit a general.....

Most of all, I am amazed that generals are given to all sorts of talking heads in public relations. there for what???? What, the colonel just can’t handle it?

[Yuri Vasilyev]

Where did you get the idea that he is a general? Or can’t you tell an army general from a 1st class state councilor by his shoulder straps? He is not a military man at all, but a purely civilian official and his rank is civilian.

[Qas]

But he has a salary and benefits according to his position. General's.

[Gardamir]

No, this is a position. He joined the army as deputy minister.

[BAI]

The colonel general became a deputy minister and became an army general. Or a civilian in this position rose to become a general of the army. From reserve lieutenant

[Sergej1972]

He is a 1st class state councilor, as the commentator above has already indicated.

[Victor jnnjdfy]

Actual state..... Under the kings there was both a privy councilor and an actual privy councilor. Here by analogy.

[Anatole Klim]

Quote: Gardamir

He joined the army as deputy minister.

And before that, there was a deputy in the Government of the Moscow Region, and who was the governor at that time? and there was Sergei Kuzhugetovich, after Shoigu’s appointment as Minister of Defense, he took Ivanov with him as a valuable specialist and immediately appointed him deputy minister. This is so by the way, without hints.

[Obi-Wan Kenobi]

Apparently Ivanov didn’t pay much attention to his boss. Got completely out of hand.
So we decided to open a case so that others would be discouraged.

[sifgame]

This is not a title for him, but a calling; he is an accomplished man.

[g_ae]

Galley slave? It would be good to take on the structures that have filled the country with various village “specialists”. All these “diasporas” and “national-cultural autonomies”. This is where the fat cats dug in. Or is Crocus Hall not enough? So it’s not far from your Kosovo somewhere in Butovo, for example.

[Belisarius]

Eh, sorry guy. Lost in the intra-mafia struggle for power/property. And what a patriot he was!
Now it turns out that he was stealing like crazy, had a bunch of bills, his relatives had bad citizenship, and in general he was not a patriot, but an enemy!
Well, it’s true that we don’t hand over our own, so he and his people simply lose access to resources and money.

[Alexander 3]

Probably discord occurred in the company Serdyukov and Company.

[Grossvater]

Quote: Nexcom

ahhh, I looked in the wrong place. damn, I was wrong. I read it quickly...

A resident of the Far North is not a reader...

[Grossvater]

Quote: BAI

49 years old - army general? (this is the title). Yes, he is a military "genius". Commander of all times and peoples

We are recruiting - Class ranks in the Russian Federation. We read and realize that these shoulder straps have nothing to do with military service, these are CIVIL ranks.
In general, if we talk about the origins, in Rus', if we talk about returning to the roots, for, let’s say, hasty and thoughtless statements, from time immemorial the tongue has been tarred.
It was a good custom!

[Ivan№One]

Why are “civilian officials” in uniform and in uniform? Why is this necessary?
And does he have medal bars specifically - like the hero Shipka? Where did this hero earn his reward?

[your1970]

In 1997, a purely infantry major came to our helicopter regiment. And for a month he tugged everyone by the sleeve and asked, “And you who? "
Because there are no shoulder straps on technical vehicles...

Therefore, black uniforms and shoulder straps have been introduced for the heads of civil servants of the Moscow Region - they have military men with ranks under their command.

[Grossvater]

Army General Timur Ivanov

The author of the article is also a writer... Eh, I wish I could...
Judging by the absence of a signature under the article, this is the opinion of the editors. God knows what VO is turning into!

[ivan2022]

I took it “as if I stole it”.... only a few lyams and even then in rubles.
And the noise.....
It looks like Kodzhugetych has swayed and is not standing strong.
They are still digging around the perimeter, but without a doubt it is under him. And enough is enough, as much as possible, others want it too......

[Aleksandr21]

Quote: ivan2022

It looks like Kodzhugetych has swayed and is not standing strong.
They are still digging around the perimeter, but without a doubt it is under him. And enough is enough, as much as possible, others want it too......

It seems that if you carefully check the implementation of the 2011-2020 State Armed Forces program, for which 19-23 trillion rubles were allocated according to various sources, then a lot of interesting things may emerge). Look at what purposes the funds were spent on, whether there are any corruption schemes, etc. then questions may arise to individuals at the very, very top.

As for Shoigu, as long as he enjoys the approval of our president, no one will move him, regardless of the situation and the results of his work.

[wladimirjankov]

regardless of the situation and the results of his work.

This is what is very bad. Disastrous for the country.

[rotmistr60]

worked in the fuel and energy complex, then went to work for the government of the Moscow region

Obviously there was good preliminary practice in “resolving issues”, which was continued in the RF Ministry of Defense. A question arises regarding the selection of personnel and those who recommended him for this position.

[Mavrikiy]

Quote: rotmistr60

A question arises regarding the selection of personnel and those who recommended him for this position.

The HR department knows, but is silent.

[Aleksandr21]

Quote: rotmistr60

A question arises regarding the selection of personnel and those who recommended him for this position.

Excerpt from the wiki:

In 2012, he served as Deputy Chairman of the Government of the Moscow Region (governor - Sergei Shoigu). From 2013 to 2016 - General Director of JSC Oboronstroy, subordinate to the Russian Ministry of Defense.

On May 23, 2016, by decree of the President of Russia, Sergei Shoigu was appointed Deputy Minister of Defense of the Russian Federation.

Time in office and appointments speak for themselves.

[Kapany3]

Quote: Nexcom

In our sorrowful times, general's shoulder straps are given not at all for military science and military achievements, but for “convenience” and “loyalty.” Some non-military people were immediately given a general (and why bother with trifles).... I won’t point the finger - everyone understood. Well, of course, then all sorts of generals aged 37-40 years were trampled. Sur. Wherever you spit, you'll hit a general.....

Most of all, I am amazed that generals are given to all sorts of talking heads in public relations. there for what???? What, the colonel just can’t handle it?

For those who are especially gifted, the military department assigns ranks according to the position held. Even if there is no special education. Having graduated from college, a warrior must rise to a certain position in order to enter the academy, and then after a few more years he must complete his studies at the General Staff Academy, and only then can he be a general. But pure “managers” can do the same thing even without studying. MARASMUS.

[Ivan№One]

I read that there were more generals in the Russian army than in the USSR army.
Funny isn't it if it's true
I think it's easy to check if you're interested

[Doctor]

. I read that there were more generals in the Russian army than in the USSR army.
Funny isn't it if it's true
I think it's easy to check if you're interested

This is definitely not the case with the medical service. All district medical chiefs held general positions, now they hold colonel positions.
The same goes for the heads of district hospitals and types and branches of the military. Although there are none at all, now they are “branches”.

Serdyukov’s thinking is that there is only one Sberbank, the rest are its branches.
I'm surprised they didn't leave one hospital at all.

[Ivan№One]

Are orders and medals also issued in the “military department” “in accordance with the position held”?
Where did this civilian dude get such an iconostasis? On what fronts did you make money? Cabinet veteran?

[Gardamir]

You all live by Soviet realities. Nowadays a medal can be given by a city, a republic, a party, or a denomination. Yes, just for participating in the parade.

[Dedok]

For the gifted

there is a concept of "civilian", but there are no privileges from shoulder straps

[Ivan№One]

Well, they put stars on their shoulder straps
Generalissimo Comrade Stalin had no less?

[Yuri Vasilyev]

Stalin never wore the shoulder straps of a generalissimo, by the way. Marshallese - yes.

[Pechorsky]

Quote: Belisarius

Eh, sorry guy. Lost in the intra-mafia struggle for power/property. And what a patriot he was!
Now it turns out that he was stealing like crazy, had a bunch of bills, his relatives had bad citizenship, and in general he was not a patriot, but an enemy!
Well, it’s true that we don’t hand over our own, so he and his people simply lose access to resources and money.

“Timur Ivanov had been at war with the deputy head of the GRU, Vladimir Aleksev, for a long time. Ivanov tried to fire him and put him in prison. He threw all his strength and resources into it. Alekseev, in response, purposefully collected materials on Ivanov and transferred them to military counterintelligence,” said source of the TG channel VChK-OGPU.

Details of the detention of Russian Deputy Defense Minister Timur Ivanov
According to some reports, counterintelligence officers brought the detained Timur Ivanov to the investigators of the central apparatus of the Investigative Committee, who issued a decision to bring him into custody as a suspect in committing a crime under Part 6 of Art. 290 (receiving a bribe on an especially large scale, up to 15 years in prison).

The detainee will spend the night in a temporary detention facility, and on Wednesday the investigation intends to petition the court for his arrest. If the investigation is military - to the 235th Garrison Military Court of Moscow, if civilian - to Basmanny. In this case, there is practically no alternative to arrest in a pre-trial detention center."
https://dzen.ru/a/ZigE99UodkuHfMR0

[Ivan№One]

So, he’s not even a career military man, judging by his biography?
And why did they give him such shoulder straps?
Why couldn't he walk in civilian life?

[Sergej1972]

He has the shoulder straps of a high-level civil servant. Is it really that hard to find out on your own?

[2 Level Advisor]

Quote: Sergej1972

He has the shoulder straps of a high-level civil servant. Is it really that hard to find out on your own?

But could you explain why these “civil servants who are not generals” perform military salutes, command, receive reports from generals (I personally saw them), and how do they ESSENTIALLY differ from generals, only formally - in the color of their uniform and name? This is what they say, that in FACT they are no different...

[Al manah]

And the one who sold the general's shoulder straps/stripes to a civil official is not interesting to the investigation?

[Sergej1972]

He has no military rank. Have you heard anything about the class ranks of the state civil service?

[Mavrikiy]

You are evil. Generals of the Ministry of Internal Affairs can take millions in bribes, but poor generals of the Armed Forces cannot?

[fif21]

Quote: Mavrikiy

You are evil. Generals of the Ministry of Internal Affairs can take millions in bribes, but poor generals of the Armed Forces cannot?

I have always been touched when some take bribes and imprison others. If the Motherland is cleared by 50%, paralysis of power will occur.

[hhurik]

In the Ministry of Internal Affairs, millions are given to colonels , come to your senses.
Generals have their own tariff.

[Doctor]

In the Ministry of Internal Affairs, millions are for colonels, come to your senses.
Generals have their own tariff.

Which one is it! Already switched to yards, Zakharchenko is a rogue! And in an innovative way, a crypto exchange.
https://www.rbc.ru/society/17/04/2024/661ee4729a7947e6b100b43f

[thrush68]

A person from Shoigu’s team. He’s been working with him for a long time. He’s necessary, apparently a good specialist. Probably. How did the boss allow him to be arrested?

[Victor Leningradets]

As if he were an Army General...Arrested...right back in 37!
The best are caught!
What will happen when they get to the worst?!

[Third district]

\\\\\\\\It’s like an Army General...Arrested...right in 37!
The best are caught!
What will happen when they get to the worst?!\\\\\\\\

I think it was caustic sarcasm.

[Victor Leningradets]

Of course!
The devil will take the leader. This mess could not flourish except under mutual responsibility.
I'm tired of these "civilian specialists in cashing and transferring to offshore companies."

[Third district]

The most surprising and amazing thing is that there have been very bad conversations about this character for a long time in the public space. And those who are supposed to have only now become interested in his modest person.

[AdAstra]

This has never happened before and here it is again, ahaha. And after all, no one knew before and he did not submit income statements and other pieces of paper. Hand face...

[Lech from Android.]

Quote: sifgame

Under Stalin, you and I have now left, you are like an English spy, and I am for insulting the Red commander and also like an English spy.

Well, I don’t know, I don’t know... it was the division commanders, corps commanders, and marshals who left in 1937... some to Kolyma, some to the basements of the Lubyanka.
People like this Ivanov are very easy and tasty prey for the CIA and MI6... easy to blackmail with compromising evidence in exchange for secret information about the Defense Ministry.

[Staal]

Did the deputy steal and his boss didn’t know?
I do not believe!

[Yuri Vasilyev]

If he had known and covered it up, he would not have been arrested. Logical?

[suhorukofal]

And everyone there is so principled. They saw that he was stealing and were outraged. Ay-yay, who did this? Come on, you all knew everything for a long time, it is impossible to hide such a lifestyle with such habits. These are huge sums and all of this was spent on expensive things, expensive entertainment. He’s not some recluse whose life no one knew.

[Alaburga]

Deputy Minister of Defense with no military education. The Internet is full of photos of how he lived with his Jewish wife, a socialite and businesswoman, what luxury pitchforks he rented, how and where he vacationed, what he bought. They write that his son studied in France. They did not hide their luxurious lifestyle, everything was in the public domain, they even boasted about it. To believe that his boss didn’t know anything is to be s/o. And such people have access to military state secrets, now it is clear why the SVO is going this way, and Shoigu has people like him in the Moscow Region, a carriage and a small cart. With such a military headquarters, not even the Russian army can be defeated.

[al3x]

With such generals, victory is sooooo far away. This guy will take the last footcloths off a soldier. It seems that he fell out of favor with the king, as if no one knew about him before. Circus.

[Ivan_6]

What can I say about this character...it was at his instigation when all the garrisons were gathered for this super temple...his wife was hanging around boutiques in Paris.....
Here we are gathering from the battalion to Maviki to snatch victory from the Nazis... and this goat not only has children, one in England, a daughter in France... his wife is an Israeli citizen... he has properties worth billions of rubles... His hands give up for two years in the trenches and on the front.... three military awards, this general has crosses all over his chest.... he eats caviar with goons.... no shame, no conscience....

[Alaburga]

Everything is great there:
/According to journalistic investigations, Ivanov and his wife spent over a million euros on vacation, renting villas and yachts, as well as buying jewelry and clothes, while Svetlana’s personal bills were paid by a company involved in the restoration of Mariupol/

[suhorukofal]

Similar bullshit. According to the papers, the regiment was provided with everything, literally, there were already Terminators. According to the veil, half-dead behies of the 80s. They didn’t even provide sapper shovels for the assault; they dug in with one shovel between them; all the equipment was humanitarian aid except for the machine gun. Ordinary people try, strain, give their money. And this firgan throws money like candy wrappers and this is only one such individual, if they are all thoroughly shaken, then it will be possible to equip another army.

[Essex62]

You won't be allowed to shake them. You will return without equipment and a machine gun.
You and your friends will survive and win.

[suhorukofal]

Quote: Essex62

Survive for you and your friends and win

Thanks a lot. I’m still here, my health doesn’t allow me to go to the front line yet. And it’s not clear what happened to my colleagues, who transferred, who returned to the ribbon. And such people need to be closed for a long time, with such SVO it will last a long time, it is beneficial for them, they themselves will beg the dill not to end the war. The trouble is that there are a lot of them. What can we say if our division commander and his deputies were closed for such fraud. They still won’t fill their mouths. Everything rests on the soldiers, and on the officers who are on the front line. And these... my brother wrote above correctly, these have billions in their accounts and an iconostasis on their chests, and they haven’t even served a day in the army, let alone in the trenches. Modern heroes.

[Essex62]

They are enemies of the people, these heroes. People do not spare their lives and health, but these live as if there is no war at all. It's not even a matter of theft. How can a Deputy Minister of the Armed Forces have children overseas? It’s incomprehensible. And they tell us nonsense about the confrontation with the West. Where? If a secret bearer of the highest category is held by his belongings, but they don’t “itch” in the towers.

[zloybond]

The fate of this character has long been of interest to many. Those who are in the subject have long hoped for such an outcome - a couple already.

[UAZ 452]

And those who are in the know didn’t remember the name Tsalikov, by chance?

[zloybond]

I think that those who have been in the subject for a long time have been sitting on their feet and are afraid to sneeze.... they are waiting for someone to come for them too.

[Privet]

There is a holiday in the Ministry of Defense, and even without Stalin’s personal participation. I.V.

[Knizhnik]

“We have the best captains in the world. And we have decent colonels. That’s the problem with the generals...”

[fif21]

Quote: Knizhnik

“Our captains are the best in the world.

Too bad you know how rotten everything is.

[Doctor]

Too bad you know how rotten everything is. hi

That's right. He has already pulled himself along. They'll light up soon, I think.

[Ivan№One]

Here it is
Deputy Minister of Defense of the Russian Federation
With Marshal's Stars

And his wife loves European ski resorts
Dear
During the war

[Doctor]

Here it is
Deputy Minister of Defense of the Russian Federation
With Marshal's Stars

And his wife loves European ski resorts
Dear
During the war

So he’s also a pacifist?! Got it. He dragged it from the treasury in order to stop the SVO as quickly as possible.
Pacific (English pacific - “peaceful, peace-loving, conciliatory”) is an international symbol of peace, disarmament, anti-war and anti-nuclear movement.

PS There are no questions about hemp, that goes without saying.

[Ivan№One]

The second shoe is more interesting, with hemp

[Idle_piston]

What an unprecedented thing, just think, an honest stealing general, and if customs, the Ministry of Emergency Situations, the Ministry of Internal Affairs are shaken, so many “acorns” will fall down. Interestingly, this general will want to atone for his guilt with his blood, say, as a platoon commander in the Northern Military District?

[hhurik]

For the next couple of years, he will be resting in the comfortable rooms of the PKU pre-trial detention center No. 2 of the Federal Penitentiary Service of Russia, popularly called “Lefortovo,” whether he wants it or not, it doesn’t depend on his desire.

I remember when I got there one day - my client was a victim, but was dining in Lefortovo as an accused - I was amazed at the carpet runners in the corridor. This is after Butyrka, where there were investigative offices “on the roof”, right in the prison block of the women’s department, with the corresponding smells and noise of cell-type rooms, and with a cement “coat” on the unpainted walls. And here the telephones in the office are wired, without jammers, there is an individual safe and the apotheosis of delight - the client guard has already brought the completed request for delivery. Holy shit.

The main thing is not how long to sit, but how to sit (c)

[Ivan№One]

Here they write that he is no general
He's kind of a civilian
With shoulder straps like a field marshal's, really
And orders, like a veteran of the Battle of Borodino
Here's a civilian
So for the rank and file - in a storm

[AdAstra]

“Honestly stealing general”, this is a pearl, we must remember.

[Third district]

///////Interestingly, this general will want to atone for his guilt with his blood, say, as a platoon commander in the Northern Military District?///////

He cannot be trusted with a platoon, he is not from the military, he is from “effective managers”.

[wladomir]

It seems that in the Ministry of Defense a thief sits on a thief and drives the thief. How effective can we talk about this gathering of thieves? Isn’t the Supreme Commander ashamed that he has such subordinates?

[Oleg Telpes]

no one will work without corruption, but it is necessary to remove and imprison regularly

[BorzRio]

Ordinary citizens around the world are chipping in on drones and medical kits for the military, and senior military officials are stealing from the army. What was he missing?

[Yuri L]

Read the biographies of all Shoigu’s deputies on https://structure.mil.ru/management/deputy.htm and see how many of the 12 there went from cadet to deputy. Two, only two (Gerasimov and Evkurov). Others either served a little and went to the civil service, the Ministry of Emergency Situations, then the Deputies returned here, or represent you know Who. And this one... did not serve at all, did not smell the footcloth spirit, like the Minister himself. And this was during an actual war?!!!! How can you achieve Victory with such people, VG, how????

[Doctor]

Read the biographies of all Shoigu’s deputies on https://structure.mil.ru/management/deputy.htm and see how many of the 12 there went from cadet to deputy. Two, only two (Gerasimov and Evkurov). Others either served a little and went to the civil service, the Ministry of Emergency Situations, then the Deputies returned here, or represent you know Who. And this one... did not serve at all, did not smell the footcloth spirit, like the Minister himself. And this was during an actual war?!!!! How can you achieve Victory with such people, VG, how????

They forgot the head doctor. The principle is the same - not a day in boots.
https://structure.mil.ru/management/details.htm?id=12118050@SD_Employee

[Yuri L]

It’s bitter to read all this. And most importantly, everything is in a circle. Remember in 1941, the NGO was headed by Timoshenko, who was defeated by the well-known “deputies” of the NGO Budyonny, Voroshilov, Shchadov, Kulik. Mehlis hung around here at GlavPUR. These sabers knew how to wave a saber well, like in the 1st Cavalry, no more. As a result, what did they get in 1941-42? They received a history textbook. Well, where do these people come from? Apparently, in peacetime only such we hold command positions. You don’t know how to suck up, Kushka before (or Chukotka now) is waiting for you. In a year and a half, Stalin changed this entire warm company (and behind them there were also hundreds of hangers-on), and with great difficulty (echoes of this for an ordinary person, for example, there were angry collective letters from entire groups of comrades demanding that the same play “Front” be banned. But Stalin understood that if you didn’t take them away from the helm, there would be no Victory, the experience of their steering in 1941-42 showed this perfectly. There would be the death of the USSR. And Stalin had the Strength. And now, comparing February 2022 and the present time, almost no changes are visible in the upper echelon of the RF Ministry of Defense (and in place of this... builder, they apparently looked at someone, but he didn’t understand the hints, (and I’m exactly like that I observed history in my city, using the example of the former Deputy Commander of the Purvo Military District for Economic Affairs Rabtsevich, who for some reason became the Head of the DGZHSN SO) nothing, he will go somewhere as a deputy later, for example, to Serdyukov) Two years have passed, and there is no update of the RF Ministry of Defense, as in 1942 was in an NGO. It turns out that the team is so lost that replacements are only possible, through a pre-trial detention center? Trouble...Where is the Strength? Will victory be ours?

[German]

So the people voted for Putin in the hope of change.
Like: here, Vladimir Vladimirovich, our complete trust is crap!
And if after the inauguration changes do not begin...
So, people - “we were deceived”!
Not “dear partners”, but this time - BB.

[Igor Borisov_2]

And what was he missing???

[Ivan№One]

People like him are never enough
There are so many of them

[man]

And what was he missing???
Wanted to become the mistress of the sea

[al3x]

There is also FBK about this queen (prohibited ) they laid out all the ins and outs, but they are extremists, and that’s great.

[Arzoo]

Well, this is Shoigu’s personal wallet, this Ivanov. Apparently that's it, Subedei is being removed. And not only are they removed, but with a bang. And it’s not just that things happen like that. Oh, I feel like the military registration and enlistment office will call soon and invite you to talk.

[Victor Leningradets]

Oh, I feel like the military registration and enlistment office will call soon and invite you to talk.

Well, don’t immediately agree, is the Minister of Defense a joke? Find out first what the Supreme’s wishes will be, what kind of housing they will provide, and who to take as Deputy, think carefully!

[Dedok]

In 1997 he graduated from Moscow State University with a degree in Computational Mathematics and Cybernetics. Got title of Candidate of Economic Sciences

I was especially pleased with this note
like everyone else - in the vertical of power - candidates and "doctors", and some even "honorary professor"
did you ask why the “smart kids” are running? - that is why

[takisha]

As a result of the activities of this “effective manager,” 50 thousand military personnel and military pensioners are waiting to receive housing subsidies. Military personnel recognized as needing improved living conditions back in 2016 are still not provided with housing. The queue stretched for 8 years. Coincidence?

[Ivan№One]

But he himself is doing great
And his wife, supposedly ex

[Vladimir M]

It is doubtful that the real reason for Timur’s detention was a bribe of 1 million, or even a hundred. VVP knows very well that of all those around him, only two people would fight for him to the end - Prigozhin and Kadyrov. But Prigozhin was demonstratively blown up, even after VVP’s words. I think Timur’s ears are sticking out behind Prigozhin’s murder. With Kadyrov, too, not everything is so simple, he has “bloods” in half the Caucasus, in Chechnya itself, and in Dagestan, and in Ingushetia.... There will be no GDP, something will begin in the Caucasus that will not seem enough to anyone.

[Yuri L]

No, it’s not Timurka’s fault, there were much higher shady guys here, and Prigozhin violated the rules of the Game that had developed at the top. And Kadyrov hasn’t been feeling very well lately. You say his pancreas has been playing out after Covid?

[Sergey Khatylaev]

Why court, there aren’t enough walls or something...

[man]

Quote: Sergey Khatylaev

Why court, there aren’t enough walls or something...

so we have a democracy, and not some 37th year

[eskela]

Something is wrong with our society. Having such a position, the benefits and the salary is clearly not 40 thousand rubles, he still puts it in his pocket. For this, even in such positions, it is necessary to introduce confiscation from the entire family, and the culprit should be smeared with brilliant green on the forehead (execution)

[man]

Something is wrong with our society.
Oh really? Holy naivety, there’s no way the internet was installed in the nursery
Having such a position, the benefits and the salary is clearly not 40 thousand rubles, he still puts it in his pocket. For this, even in such positions, it is necessary to introduce confiscation from the entire family, and the culprit should be smeared with brilliant green on the forehead
"Through the mouth of a baby speaks the truth"

[glock-17]

Clearly some sort of showdown had begun upstairs. Maybe they’ll get to Shoigu. Stalin also began by exposing the courtiers as enemies of the people, and then came out to the owners.

[UAZ 452]

The main thing in an investigation is not to expose yourself.

[megadeth]

There are no words... and it’s all right next to the Supreme High Command...

[Alexander Rasmukhambetov]

But there are no words........................

[Yuras_Belarus]

You there in Russia will figure out what to do on your own, but I have one question. How did a person who previously worked strictly in economics get into the Ministry of Defense? "Defense industry" is not yet a reason to be a general.

[UAZ 452]

This began back in the days of our common Motherland - the appointment of Ustinov to the post of the USSR Ministry of Defense, who, although a full marshal, was never a real military man, but 100% came from the defense industry, they put the cart before the horse. Since then, essentially, the main task of the army has been to justify the existence of the military-industrial complex with its exorbitant and unaffordable appetites for the country.

[fa-zer45]

And, I wonder, can he be charged with “discrediting the Russian army”?

[Mikhail Maslov]

Was it not these rear rats that Prigogine was talking about? If this is such a successful subject, there should be patrons both in the Moscow Region and among the oligarchs.

[Million]

Timur personifies all our power. It’s just that others have not yet been caught.

[man]

Quote: Million

Timur personifies all our power. It’s just that others have not yet been caught.

He stole inappropriately and did not share enough

[Victor Leningradets]

Apparently, the Defense Ministry of the warring country has taken the path of lawlessness.
In any stolen enterprise, in this case, external management is introduced and a crisis manager is appointed, who brings the enterprise out of a tailspin (or completely disrupts it, but this is not our case). We have a wonderful character, not inferior in bloodthirstiness to the most prominent members of the forum. His angry posts on Telegram earned him worldwide fame.
In my opinion, it is necessary to appoint Dmitry Anatolyevich Medvedev to this position. According to his biography, he more than deserves it:
- St. Petersburg, member of Sobchak’s team, like the current President;
- Member of the Security Council of the Russian Federation (Deputy Chairman);
- First Deputy Chairman of the Military-Industrial Commission of the Russian Federation;
- has experience working as President and Prime Minister of the Russian Federation;
- by education - a lawyer, the author of many legislative initiatives (renaming the police to the police, switching to daylight saving time), as well as immortal aphorisms.
The time has come for him to shoulder this burden, clean out the Augean stables and ensure the successful completion of the Special Military Operation.

[UAZ 452]

which brings the enterprise out of a tailspin (or stops it completely, but this is not our case)

No - this is exactly our case.

[Aleks24lion]

Quote: Yuri Vasiliev

Where did you get the idea that he is a general? Or can’t you tell an army general from a 1st class state councilor by his shoulder straps? He is not a military man at all, but a purely civilian official and his rank is civilian.

The Deputy Minister of Defense is the direct superior to all military personnel. It turns out that the commanders of military districts (fleets) are subordinate to a civilian official?

[Glagol1]

I have a question: how did a person who was a civilian until 2012 become an army general in just over 10 years?!

[bbb]

They have Santa Barbara right there - he is now married (dating) with the ex-wife of another deputy. Shoigu.

[musorg]

Apparently he didn’t share, otherwise he would have already been over the hill!

[FoBoss_VM]

Yes, 100%... Otherwise, nothing can explain the performance that is taking place. Over the last three years, people have been talking openly in all corners about who this Ivanov is and what he is like. If I continued to enter where it should be and for as long as it should, everything would continue

[UAZ 452]

He was also the “hero” of FBK investigations. Perhaps they didn’t touch him before, so as not to indirectly confirm that Navalny is not just using fakes in his investigations. And now, after his death, these considerations have lost relevance. Which of the people involved in the FBK stories should prepare?

[FoBoss_VM]

Now try to convince me that Shoigu has at least something to do with this))) this whole top leadership is rotten. And how can you win the war with them? They will sell their mother and give up their friends for the sake of gesheft

[UAZ 452]

But it was precisely this elite that started the war. And do you really think that people who, as you yourself write

they will sell their own mother and give up their friends for the sake of gesheft

suddenly become concerned with some kind of denazification and demilitarization, and not exclusively with their own gesheft?

[German]

As I remember the photo of our district mobilized people at the very beginning, it makes me angry that the people in charge of logistics and logistics are still in uniform and free!
The district deputy visited them at his convenience.
Who is in what: the unit is standing, but everyone is in different uniforms, with different armor and unloading. Not an army, but a people's militia!
To be fair: now they say the equipment has returned to normal, we have everything we need.

[Pioneer1984]

Has the ice really broken? I can’t even believe it.

[vvn_vl]

Was anyone surprised? If you remember, when the current minister left the Ministry of Emergency Situations, several deputies also had criminal cases. The trend, however...

[Vovavvs]

Isn’t Borodin’s accomplice Pal Palych’s son? Or an apple from an apple tree...

[Vladimir_D]

Voentelecom. The integrator, communications operator, belongs to the Ministry of Defense. The top manager of Pounds is hiding from criminal prosecution, the next general Tamodin and his managers spent several years on fraud charges, the next general director Davydov served several years in prison on fraud charges, the next Yakunin was fired for extortion. The company is constantly rocked by scandals. A military representative who worked with Voentelecom is in prison. Arslanov Khalil Abdulkhalimovich, head of the main communications department of the Ministry of Defense, who oversaw communications in the Ministry of Defense, is in prison.

[UAZ 452]

All high-ranking military signalmen were transferred, but the Russian Armed Forces did not have normal communications.

[Vasya_2]

also a hero of Russia, or not?

[Amateur]

then he went to work for the government of the Moscow region

Then he went to work for the government of the Moscow region, where he worked so well that Governor S.K. Shoigu, who worked as a governor for only 7 months, was so impressed by his successes that he took him with him to the Moscow Region as the head of Oboronstroy. Builder Shoigu was able to appreciate the “builder” T. Ivanov. Hence the conclusion: either Shoigu is “out of it” or does not know and does not control what is going on in his ministry.
Maybe it’s time for Sergei Kozhugetovich and Valery Vasilyevich to retire at their dacha and write memoirs about how they fought with Ukraine?

[baytygan]

What a name, what a surname... didn't live up to expectations

[Anyuta Glorious]

I humbly hope that this is just the beginning of cleaning the Augean stables.

[Phoenix_2]

This is window dressing, but someone will be released by May 9 for lack of evidence

[fsvlad]

It never happens that a boss is unaware of what his deputy is doing. He is either in trouble or unsuitable for his profession. Well, which option are we asked to believe in relation to Shoigu?

[fa2998]

Quote: Krasnoyarsk

If you want your children to study and, or live overseas, quit the civil service. There is no other way to get rid of these...coves.

We will remain without the leadership of the country! There is no one you touch in the government, in the Duma, in the Federation Council and the presidential administration.

[Bulrumeb]

Timur has been grounded for now. And his team? Timur cannot exist without a team...

[Carlos Hall]

He must be executed for treason and in accordance with his rank.

[UAZ 452]

It was “Serdyukov’s girls” who destroyed and plundered the army, while Shoigu and his team came to save the RF Armed Forces from their predecessor and to correct the consequences. But as it turns out, Shoigu’s “boys” are doing the same thing as the “furniture maker’s” girls. How so!

[UAZ 452]

Timur Ivanov followed Sergei Kuzhugetovich to the Moscow Region from the government of the Moscow region. But our minister has an even more faithful and proven personnel - his first deputy Ruslan Khadzhismelovich Tsalikov. He has been with him for 30 years, from the Ministry of Emergency Situations to the government of the Moscow region, from there to the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation. And, by the way, in the Moscow Region he oversees approximately the same range of issues as Ivanov - procurement, construction. Probably the FSB has been collecting a dossier on him for years too? I wonder what the result is? Probably a crystal honest person?

[Igor1915]

Yes, until the authorities figure it out within themselves, what kind of victory can we talk about? Everyone understands that he hasn’t been working at Mo for a day or two.

[Arifon]

The fact that he was detained is already good!
The remaining questions: “Why not earlier? Why only him? and other “misunderstandings” - there is no point in asking yet. No one will answer anything. For now!

[Phoenix_2]

There, all the military units need to be wooled, he’s not the only one who has accumulated so much in 30 years, if you also do confiscation, then you don’t need to unfasten it for defense for several years

[Alexander 1984 Kuban]

Natural bastard. Raking money for the sake of your skirt and all sorts of “nice things”, but at a time like this.... It would be nice to have more talent - beyond measure, but here... ugh! Comrade resolved the issue well in this regard. Stalin: work hard, and closer to the Magadan region, or Komi. Cold, mosquitoes, hard work, strict regime - all the delights combined. Just for freaks like this deputy.

[Igor1915]

Now I found on YouTube a huge investigation about him made a year!!!!!! Back. Unfortunately, Russia is ruled by non-humans, at a time when so many people are dying - I don’t understand how this is possible.

[AC130 Gunship]

I wonder who he forgot to “roll back” in time. The fact that the deputy minister owns a Rolls-Royce, rents luxury yachts and villas in France and throws parties for tens of thousands of dollars has been actively discussed by everyone for the last 7 years. And at one of the drinking parties, Peskov personally adjusted his sleeve to hide from reporters watch brand

[AC130 Gunship]

Quote: Igor1915

Now I found on YouTube a huge investigation about him made a year!!!!!! Back. Unfortunately, Russia is ruled by non-humans, at a time when so many people are dying - I don’t understand how this is possible.

Judging by the election results, you are among the 14%. The remaining 86% don't give a damn

[Phoenix_2]

Yes, almost everyone there needs to be planted together with the reindeer herder

[realing]

a fine in an amount that is 70 times the amount of the bribe.

I can just imagine him in the pre-trial detention center thinking: “take these pennies and let him rest in retirement.”