Russian refineries began to independently build protection against Ukrainian drones

Unable to stop the advance of the Russian army at the front, the Kiev regime intensified attacks on Russian territory, targeting, among other things, strategic industrial facilities. This year there have already been several attempts to strike using drones at large Russian oil refineries, and each time Ukrainian UAVs fly into more and more distant regions of the Russian Federation.

At the same time, in Kyiv they openly declare that they do not intend to abandon attacks on Russian refineries, even taking into account the fact that the United States allegedly opposes this, fearing a rise in world prices for petroleum products, and therefore a rise in prices for fuel and lubricants within the country, which does not add to Biden’s popularity at all ahead of the presidential elections.

It is obvious that it is impossible to reliably cover even all large enterprises, which also occupy considerable territories, with air defense forces. In this regard, the task of creating at least additional passive protection against attacks has become urgent. drones by companies that own oil plants and other targets of possible air strikes by the Ukrainian Armed Forces. And this work has already begun.

Thus, the head of Bashkortostan Radiy Khabirov, during a meeting with journalists yesterday at the site of the Interuniversity student campus of the world-class Eurasian Research Center in Ufa, answered the question of whether drone attacks by the Armed Forces of Ukraine are possible in the republic and what additional measures are already being taken to protect strategically important enterprises. The head of the region said that this topic will be raised at a meeting of the anti-terrorism commission, which will take place on April 19.

Meanwhile, the first steps to protect large enterprises in the republic from drones are already being taken. Khabirov said that by decision of the management of PJSC JSOC Bashneft (part of PJSC NK Rosneft), mechanical fences in the form of metal mesh were installed around the main production facilities that could become the target of attacks.

We all understand that this is a half-hearted solution: we will survive the first blow, but a second blow may come. Therefore, this work continues constantly

- added the head of the region.

In addition to passive mechanical protection, additional surveillance systems are installed at enterprises and observers are employed. There is a constant dialogue with the Russian Ministry of Defense in order to develop common measures to counter air attacks, Khabirov said, adding that it is too early to disclose the details of the agreements with the military department, including due to a possible data leak.

You can’t cover everyone in the country with Pantsir (an anti-aircraft missile system), but we are conducting a certain dialogue (with the Ministry of Defense)

— the head of the Republic of Bashkortostan informed journalists.

Comments

[Romario_Argo]

here is the opposite effect, there is also an injection of money from oil workers into the military-industrial complex
The United States begged the stubborn to stop attacks on oil refineries

[Hitriy Zhuk]

Quote: Romario_Argo

there was also an injection of money from oil workers into the military-industrial complex

They (the government) were lucky with the oil workers.
If I were them, I would sell everything to the Japanese or Chinese. Well, like “let the state sit without fuel and think about its behavior.”
Otherwise, the cities will be razed to the ground - “we’re like that” (and don’t care that there are almost no casualties among the fighters), “not a war, but a North Military District,” and so on.
It has already reached the point that the peaceful people (albeit a business, but still) are building their own air defense.
SECURITY IS THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE STATE. And nothing else.

[Hitriy Zhuk]

Quote: Hitriy Zhuk

Otherwise, razing cities to the ground is “we’re like that”

For those who don’t understand, I’m outraged that in Ukraine we are NOT leveling them to the ground.
And it would be necessary.

[AAK]

Dear colleague, in the legislation of the Russian Federation there is Federal Law No. 256-FZ “On the safety of fuel and energy facilities”, and to it 458 and 993 Resolutions of the Government of the Russian Federation. At the same time, the measures provided for in them are MANDATORY carried out only at facilities that are federally owned or owned by federal subjects that are assigned one of three categories of potential danger...

[Hitriy Zhuk]

Quote: AAK

are carried out only on objects that are federally owned or

So it may be so (I won’t check, I believe), but we don’t even have a war.
And in those “peaceful” times this should not happen.
Again, optional order does not mean that objects cannot be protected.
But the main thing is different.
The refinery is a strategic object (without it there will be a shortage of fuel and other nasty things).

[Andy_nsk]

Been to the territory controlled by Surgutneftegaz. A decent area, comparable to some European limitrophes, protected by fences and guarded by its own “land army”. Now they will have air defense, all that remains is to acquire aviation and the Strategic Missile Forces - and Shoigu’s department can be dissolved! /*Joke*/

[Alekseev]

"Now they will have air defense..."
Yes, it is necessary and possible to maintain reconnaissance equipment, at least sound, in the militarized guard of such air defense facilities in the form of mobile groups using machine guns and anti-aircraft guns on pickup trucks and trucks at the expense of corporations.
Organizations fighting avalanches in the mountains use powerful anti-aircraft guns.
You can entrust the organization of this matter to the Russian Guard, leaving the financial support to the owners of the enterprises.

[Electrical]

You can entrust the organization of this matter to the Russian Guard, leaving the financial support to the owners of the enterprises.

And where will you find such idiots? So that the striped man would command everyone, and another uncle would pay for all his wishes, and even from his own pocket.

[hector]

Quote from Andy_nsk

Now they will have air defense, all that remains is to acquire aviation and the Strategic Missile Forces - and Shoigu’s department can be dissolved! /*Joke*/

Once again private armies of corporations loom on the horizon.

[Andy_nsk]

They didn't go anywhere.

[evgen1221]

Rubber from a conveyor belt works well against cumuli and UAVs. For tanks it will go great, and the flexibility and weight are less and the dimensions are smaller than carrying manomakh caps. Tested during the war on the Balkeans.

[rocket757]

Russian refineries began to independently build protection against Ukrainian drones

. So it’s clear, it’s a necessary measure, but now the main question is... will gasoline become more expensive?

[bk316]

So it’s clear, it’s a necessary measure, but now the main question is... will gasoline become more expensive?

Stupid question Victor, gasoline is always becoming more expensive.

[rocket757]

Will the price go up at all or will they charge more?
There isn't much of a difference... just interesting.

[Olegi1]

Will the price go up at all or will they charge more?

All three options are correct: And in general, And also, And beyond

[Appraiser]

Of course it will rise in price, but you have doubts about this, I don’t think so....

[rocket757]

There is no doubt that the price will rise by a ruble, for example... then someone at the top will frown and the price will decrease by... three kopecks, well, five... and that’s all.

[The popuas]

Why should the state build protection for them? How to make profits so private, how to bear losses so...pamagite...

[UAZ 452]

Well, it seems like they also paid taxes, didn’t they? It was understood that the state and its bureaucracy used this money, including for air defense, but here you are - now you do it all yourself!

[Hitriy Zhuk]

Quote: Popuas

Why should the state build protection for them?

Well, finally, yes.
The state is needed for protection, security, and a little bit of laws so that they comply with all sorts of health care.

[fuel oil]

This had to be done right from February 24, 2022. And there is still someone to start pouring money into the defense industry, not into yachts, but into the most real and promising sector now, with an eye to the future.

[Hitriy Zhuk]

Quote: black oil

right from February 24, 2022

Right then it was necessary to transfer all generation to 404, and level the cities like a lawn.
And there would be fewer losses, and it would have ended already.
I believe that our military knows how to fight, and they have what it takes.
But apparently they are prohibited.

[fuel oil]

Well, here the answer to your thoughts, and not only to yours, was given by our Supreme Commander: “We are not them and we are not fighting with civilians.” The topic is already hackneyed and, to put it mildly, thankless.

[Hitriy Zhuk]

Quote: black oil

We are not them and we don’t fight civilians.

There are no other “civilians” other than citizens of their own country.
Moreover, the other side is systematically attacking Donetsk and other cities/towns.
It's high time to dump everything and everyone there.

Quote: black oil

The topic is already hackneyed and, to put it mildly, thankless.

Oh yeah, that's not the right word.

[fuel oil]

Well, you answered everything yourself and recorded everything And how it should have been “bearers of democracy” was clearly shown in Serbia.

[fa2998]

Quote: black oil

This had to be done right from February 24, 2022.

In fact, they’ve allegedly been doing this for about fifteen years now! How many trillions were pumped into the army, every year at the parade they reported how much the armed forces had been rearmed. Asking where the money went is already crime and extremism! Now the business itself must build its own air defense. And of course the cost will be passed on to the buyer!

[Medvedev_Dmitry]

Quote: rocket757

Will gasoline prices go up?

Definitely... We need to unite

[rocket757]

We wouldn't unite for everything and not all at once...
There is no worthy, understandable, attractive idea, no center of attraction... in general, everything is suspended and suspended, in limbo.

[Castro Ruiz]

So they have enough money, let them try with their resources.

[huggi]

Self-isolation, self-mobilization, self-defense from drones. In general, such amateur activities on the ground without involving the authorities are, first of all, harmful for this very government. Business says “the army won’t save us, we’ll do it ourselves.”
And those who say that the oil industry has a lot of money, they also pay a lot of taxes, as if the main driver of the budget. And at what border does the need for self-defense begin in the presence of an army?

[UAZ 452]

In ancient China, when the central government, unable to cope with numerous threats, handed over to the provinces almost all rights and responsibilities, including defense, the provincial rulers eventually managed. But as a single state, China essentially ceased to exist for centuries. And the provinces, or rather their authorities, very soon became enthusiastically engaged in internecine wars.
So if the proposed approach prevails, in a few decades artillery strikes will be carried out on Tver for the glory of the Ryazan peace, and the guards of the Tambov Principality will storm Voronezh (examples of settlements are conditional). Rave? And 30 years ago, anyone who began to predict that the Ukrainian troops would shell Belgorod, the Russian army would shell Kharkov, and ordinary people in Moscow and Kyiv would discuss whether it was necessary to use nuclear weapons against each other, or still not worth it, would have been sent to a mental hospital Bye?

[tralflot1832]

By the way, I saw a set of air defense specialists at a refinery - the salary is decent.

[Nastia makarova]

they are recruiting in Tatarstan

[Appraiser]

Here it is fundamentally necessary for the leadership of the RF Ministry of Defense to reconsider the strategy of protection against such means of attack and not only refineries.

[alexoff]

There is an opinion that if you block the air defense border, you don’t have to put a shell on every object

[al3x]

Yes, yes, at my own expense, I believed so. Uncle Vova’s “poor” friends will beg for government assistance.

[VPK-65]

Mechanical fences in the form of metal mesh

Why the hell do they need metal ones? to “master the budget” out of habit? During the Second World War, they didn’t even use nets against Junkers-88, but here are toy UAVs with a Chinese fishing net that is enough to get entangled in it. Forgot your history lessons? Then let me remind you: https://sankt_peterburg.academic.ru/129/barrier_balloons

Barrage balloons
Barrage balloons were used in Leningrad as an additional means in the general air defense system 1941–45. At the beginning of the Great Patriotic War, the air defense forces of Leningrad had 3 regiments of barrage balloons, armed with 350 balloons of various types, including 160 of the Tandem system (double balloon). Each of the regiments occupied combat positions and deployed balloon posts.
In total, over 69 thousand balloon lifts were made during the war. Despite the small number of broken ropes fascist aircraft (in 1941-42 - 3 aircraft), the combat use of barrage balloons in the air defense of Leningrad justified itself.

In this case, no cables are required; light ropes, nets, etc. are sufficient. Of course, balloons are not needed, small balloons are enough.

[ximkim]

Quote: rocket757

Will the price go up at all or will they charge more?
There isn't much of a difference... just interesting.

It will always get more expensive.
It's time to get used to it

[tkoh]

What remains is for the residents of the border regions to begin to protect themselves from others. Well, the state doesn’t owe them anything anyway. It didn't ask to be born

[Electrical]

What remains is for the residents of the border regions to begin to protect themselves from others.

And they are strictly forbidden to do this. Otherwise, God forbid, they reach an agreement with the North Koreans or the Houthis, but those guys are not at all like the impotent Leopolds.

[sdivt]

rise in prices for fuel and lubricants within the country, which does not add to Biden's popularity at all

We are unique)
A dozen comments share their life-affirming confidence that gasoline prices will rise in our country:

Stupid question Victor, gasoline is always becoming more expensive.

And in general, And more, And beyond

Of course it will rise in price, but you have doubts about this, I don’t think so....

There is no doubt that the price will rise by a ruble, for example... then someone at the top will frown and the price will decrease by... three kopecks, well, five... and that’s all.

Will gasoline prices go up? Definitely... We need to unite

It will always get more expensive. It's time to get used to it

But, nevertheless, the phrase “doesn’t add popularity at all” applies exclusively to Biden))

[UAZ 452]

But, nevertheless, the phrase “doesn’t add popularity at all” applies exclusively to Biden))

But we have freedom and democracy - anyone can even go out to Red Square and shout that Biden is old and senile, and nothing will happen to him for it! Our electorate enjoys freedom.

[Eugene Zaboy]

In addition to passive mechanical protection, additional surveillance systems are installed at enterprises and observers are employed. There is a constant dialogue with the Russian Ministry of Defense in order to develop common measures to counter air attacks, Khabirov said, adding that it is too early to disclose the details of the agreements with the military department, including due to a possible data leak.

I'm glad that the issue has moved forward. The main thing is that there is a progressive movement forward, even with grids to begin with. Although, the grids surprised me.

[agond]

Oil workers follow the example of tankers who themselves make canopies for tanks, although oil companies with their funds could (the same themselves) develop and manufacture any kind of air defense system with radar and missiles, and not limit themselves to passive methods of protection such as nets.
However, speaking seriously, the most effective way to protect a refinery could be the use of water jet systems; a jet of water under not very high pressure is guaranteed to shoot down any drone at a distance of 50m. To protect a stationary object, that’s the best thing, by the way, the refinery has everything for this, including water. and pipes and pumps.

[Eugene Zaboy]

agond
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oil companies with their funds could (the same themselves) develop and manufacture any kind of air defense system with radar and missiles, and not limit themselves to passive methods of protection such as nets.

Protection of objects is needed yesterday, but what will be developed and manufactured tomorrow, or in decades, is of no interest to anyone except the military.

agond
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Today, 16: 31
The most effective way to protect a refinery could be the use of water jets; a jet of water under not very high pressure is guaranteed to shoot down any drone at a distance of 50m. To protect a stationary object, that’s the best thing, by the way, the refinery has everything for this: water, pipes, and pumps.

The facilities occupy areas of tens and hundreds of hectares; buses carrying personnel travel around the territory. Means of protection, such as air defense, or against drones, must be located at distances measured in kilometers from objects; 50 meters will not help. Patrolling the territory, or fences, is protection from hooligans or saboteurs and has always been used. We are talking about protection from missile strikes, or attacks by combat drones, possibly large sabotage groups, etc.

[Two]

Ha!Ha! Has it really dawned on them, I wrote a year ago that they need to do protection against drones, the stupidity of individuals in the oil business is simply off the charts, that they don’t have security analysts working for them who need to be fired. They would have already made protection against drones long ago with their money. They will sit until the last minute, they feel sorry for the money, they don’t have to rely on anyone but themselves.

[bone1]

A funny initiative - who will pick it up - schools, hospitals and kindergartens?

[UAZ 452]

And in hospitals, who will be on duty as sentinels - doctors and nurses, or will they tend to the sick? At school, it’s definitely not the teachers, but the students, or their parents, who are obliged.