A long-range bomber Tu-22M3 of the Russian Aerospace Forces crashed in the Stavropol Territory

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A long-range bomber Tu-22M3 of the Russian Aerospace Forces crashed in the Stavropol Territory

A Russian combat aircraft crashed in the Stavropol Territory, the pilots ejected. This information comes from Russian resources.

Previously, the Russian Aerospace Forces lost a Tu-22M3 long-range bomber; the plane crashed in the Krasnogvardeisky district of the Stavropol Territory; there was no damage on the ground. The pilots ejected, they have already been found and are being taken to the hospital for examination; the life of the crew is not in danger. No one yet knows the reason for the plane crash; a special commission will look into this.



A plane crashed into a field in the Krasnogvardeisky District. According to operational data, there was no destruction or casualties, the pilots ejected (...) Two pilots from the plane that crashed in the Krasnogvardeisky district were found. They are alive, we are taking them to the hospital. All services went to the scene of the incident

- wrote the Governor of Stavropol Vladimir Vladimirov.


According to the Ministry of Defense, the plane crashed while returning after completing a combat mission. The cause was stated to be a technical malfunction. There was no more ammunition on board. 3 crew members have been evacuated, and a search is now underway for another pilot.

A TU-22M3 aircraft of the Russian Aerospace Forces crashed in the Stavropol Territory after completing a combat mission while returning to its home airfield

- it is spoken in the message of military department.

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  1. +11
    April 19 2024 08: 01
    There is no threat to the life of the crew

    Of course, it’s a pity for the car... but the main thing is that the crew is alive, and we’ll still make the hardware. good
    1. +11
      April 19 2024 08: 07
      We’ll do it, but how many years does it take to build a strategist? The war will already be over... I really feel sorry for the bird, and he wasn’t old either.
      1. +19
        April 19 2024 08: 38
        the war will already end..

        The war will not end soon. Afghanistan - 10 years, Chechnya - 10 years, and in the region there is still no end in sight.
      2. +8
        April 19 2024 08: 45
        The Tu-22M3 strategic vehicle is no longer being made, but is being modernized.
        But alas, this vehicle had a rather long service life and wear and tear accelerated during combat missions.
        Not everything is forever under the moon...
      3. +23
        April 19 2024 08: 49
        Happy second birthday to pilots!
        Let’s do it, but how many years does it take to build a strategist?

        Don’t indulge yourself with illusions, no one will do anything.
        Because there is no one, nowhere and nothing to do.
      4. -5
        April 19 2024 09: 07
        "Just how many years does it take to build a strategist?"

        This is not a strategist. Just a long ranger.
      5. -1
        April 19 2024 10: 08
        Who is the strategist and who has whom? Or so, just to comment
        1. +2
          April 19 2024 17: 23
          Quote: lusya
          Who is the strategist and who has whom? Or so, just to comment



          Our strategists are Tu-95 and Tu-160. The Tu-22M3 is long-range, but not strategic. If you wish, you can find out for yourself why this is so. They wanted to seem smart, but they ended up in a puddle.
      6. +2
        April 19 2024 11: 35
        “The Kazan Aviation Plant will build two new Tu-22M3 long-range bombers, a decision on this has already been made. As the bmpd blog reports with reference to the Business Online resource, gliders assembled at the plant in the early 90s of the last century will be used for construction.” . This information is for 2018. Now there are more! And based on the video footage, I can’t rule out external influences, unfortunately.
        1. +1
          April 19 2024 12: 19
          Quote: riddik70
          And based on the video footage, I can’t rule out external influences, unfortunately.

          Here's what knowledgeable people write:
          There was no defeat of the Tu-22M3.
          First there is a surge, then the fire develops.

          I will report the results of the commission's findings.
          There was no Friendly Fire. 100000%

          The fourth died.
          Everlasting memory.
          For those who understand at least a little about the Tu-22M3 escape system, it will be clear who.

          If everything really is as it is according to fragmentary information, the crew commander deserved his Star.
          Even posthumously. soldier
          "The Voivode Broadcasts"
          1. 0
            April 19 2024 12: 25
            Quote: LIONnvrsk
            "The Voivode Broadcasts"

            Continued:
            All. Official
            Fire after a hydraulic explosion.
            There was no impact.
            Neither FF, nor Ukrainians. Purely technique.
            They pulled as long as they could, then the left engine and everything that was possible burned out.

            And yes. The commander left after forcibly throwing out the others. He is in the hospital.
            Another crew member was killed.
            We will help the family.
      7. +2
        April 19 2024 18: 50
        We cannot build a civil aircraft. And this kind of aircraft is like the lost knowledge of a vanished civilization. When was the last aircraft of this type built? in 1993. Did they come up with a new one to replace it and put it into production? I don't think so. These planes are already old, and they are forced to operate under extremely stressful conditions. So they can’t stand it.
    2. +1
      April 19 2024 08: 07
      If I’m not mistaken, we can no longer produce these aircraft due to the loss of some technological processes.
      1. -20
        April 19 2024 08: 47
        Who told you such stupidity and nonsense???
        You are probably from TsIPSO???
        The technology and drawings have all been preserved. There is digitization, just like the Tu-160 was digitized.
        The question is different, on what site to build cars if everything is up to capacity???
        1. +12
          April 19 2024 08: 50
          What year dates back to the last full release of this model (not modifications of the old one, but full-fledged production from scratch)?
          I found on the Internet: “The last three completed Tu-22M3 aircraft were delivered to the customer in 1993.”

          That is, either we already have a lot of them, or there are problems with the production of new ones.
          1. -22
            April 19 2024 08: 53
            Ask General Shoigu about this, maybe he will write/tell you, the curious one, if he finds the time.
            1. 0
              April 21 2024 04: 47
              Joker? More like 6! "Ask General Shoigu" "brilliant" answer!
      2. 0
        April 19 2024 11: 38
        You're wrong about everything you planned. hi
    3. +22
      April 19 2024 08: 07
      In about 5 years. Just like the A-50. We don’t have the TB-3 left for conservation there? It looks like the T-55 turned out to be replaced with armatures and self-propelled guns. Maybe here, too, “Soviet galoshes” will save effective managers?
      1. -11
        April 19 2024 08: 25
        why the mockery???? ......
        1. +21
          April 19 2024 08: 42
          why the mockery???? ..

          This is not a joke, but a statement of facts. First, in a relatively short period of time, they destroyed what had been developed for decades, and now we have to reap the benefits of all this.
          1. -4
            April 19 2024 08: 46
            We are reaping the benefits in all sectors, now we will have to spend decades to somehow restore it, there is no other way out
            1. +14
              April 19 2024 08: 52
              now we have to spend decades

              That’s what I’m talking about, well, we don’t have such capacities and opportunities now, we don’t even have enough workers.
              1. +14
                April 19 2024 08: 55
                Quote: private person
                There are not enough workers.

                And goals.
              2. +1
                April 19 2024 08: 59
                I agree with all these problems, but what should I do? will have to be restored slowly and for a long time
                1. 0
                  April 21 2024 04: 52
                  We will have to restore it, but we will have to do this starting from school! Regular high school, i.e. education!
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                1. +5
                  April 19 2024 13: 02
                  But they “optimized” education, medicine and industry just to suit patriotic cries of how it will be good when we cut off all the unnecessary things. And we’ll stuff what’s cut off behind the scenes into our pockets and take it to London and other territories of a potential enemy. And all this with words about love for the Motherland and people. By the way, even now the same ones continue the same. Maybe it’s also worth looking for haters of the Motherland there; they all remained in place, or their children. continue the “works of their fathers.”
                2. 0
                  April 19 2024 15: 00
                  Why agents - at least haters of the Motherland, negativity rushes from you for kilometers.

                  I love my homeland Russia. And from people like you, the only harm you can do is suck up and shout hooray, but it’s not fate to see what’s going on around you.
                3. +1
                  April 20 2024 00: 12
                  Quote: Sergiy_OSV
                  Why agents - at least haters of the Motherland, negativity rushes from you for kilometers.
    4. +15
      April 19 2024 08: 22
      Quote: Canecat
      There is no threat to the life of the crew

      Of course, it’s a pity for the car... but the main thing is that the crew is alive, and we’ll still make the hardware. good
      we won't do it. no longer in production.
      1. 0
        April 19 2024 12: 01
        They will make another hardware that is being produced!
        1. 0
          April 21 2024 04: 56
          They produce ingots, but they cannot fly! Unfortunately, we even buy galoshes in China, supplying raw materials!
    5. +9
      April 19 2024 09: 22
      We won't do it anymore. Unfortunately, the technologies and competencies for building the Tu22m3 have been lost forever. The Tu160 was more fortunate in this regard, and the plant and even the gliders remained. And here the loss is irreparable
      1. -3
        April 19 2024 12: 38
        The technologies and competencies for building the Tu22m3 are unfortunately lost forever

        Serial technologies cannot be lost. This is a humanitarian myth.

        and even gliders

        And this is a lie. It is unclear where such nonsense comes from.
        For the Tu 160 there are 2 airframes left. Both aircraft have already been used and entered service.
        For that 22m3 there are 4 gliders left
        https://www.business-gazeta.ru/article/514257

        the plant remained

        Yes, the full production cycle for the Tu-160 has been restored, but not for the Tu-22m3.
        This is because there are about 60 cars in storage. They all need to be repaired; there just aren’t enough engines for new ones.
        But what does this have to do with the plant? They were made at the same factory as the 160.
    6. +10
      April 19 2024 10: 07
      And who will be the makers? Did you do a lot after the USSR?
      1. -5
        April 19 2024 12: 02
        Are there many B-52s or even B-1s being made now?
    7. +13
      April 19 2024 10: 28
      Yes yes yes, you will do it by tomorrow.
      Here, over the course of 33 years, two Tu-160s were somehow completed from Soviet backlogs, creaking with their knees, but making them from scratch is out of the question. Not to mention the models of today or the future.
      Or have you still not noticed this after 33 years?
      There are no subcontractors, no personnel, not even schools, and the Tupolev Design Bureau itself is gone, in 33 years exactly 0 new aircraft models have been designed, no one even brings the old models up to the level of at least the 90s.

      Likewise for the MiG, for Myasishchev, for Yakovlev, for Mil and Kamov, for Beriev, for Ilyushin (the shame of the Il-112 does not count). So, Sukhoi still cannot die, but this is a matter of two or three reforms of this government or one move.
      1. -1
        April 19 2024 12: 24
        and making it from scratch is out of the question.

        Change the manual, it's outdated.
        https://tass.ru/armiya-i-opk/13407273
        The production cycle has been completely restored.
        The first plane with the new airframe in the air.
        State order for 2 aircraft per year.
        Especially for those like you, you showed an assembly shop in which 8 pieces cost for modernization (although what kind of modernization is this if only the airframe remains) on the left, and 2 for assembly on the right.
    8. +5
      April 19 2024 11: 07
      Quote: Canecat
      and we’ll also make iron.

      But this is unlikely. Nothing like this is already produced or planned.
      1. -3
        April 19 2024 12: 04
        They will make another one that is being produced! Su-34, for example...B-1 is also no longer produced.
    9. -2
      April 19 2024 14: 29
      Unfortunately, most of the crew died...
    10. 0
      April 19 2024 14: 34
      Two of the crew died. They went into the sky forever..
    11. +4
      April 19 2024 21: 18
      Canecat ( =ZОV= ) Today, 08:01
      Of course, it’s a pity for the car... but the main thing is that the crew is alive, and we’ll still make the hardware. good

      Such comments are outrageous in their stupidity. Those who scribble them thoughtlessly do not understand the real significance of the loss of each bomber, given that there are very few of them left, and their deterioration is of great concern.

      And regarding “we’ll still make hardware,” I’d like to ask a question.
      How much of this kind of iron has been made besides what was left after the USSR?
      1. -1
        April 19 2024 21: 52
        Such comments are outrageous in their stupidity.

        Your comments are clearly written with a claim to genius. hi
    12. 0
      April 19 2024 23: 50
      Quote: Canecat
      but most importantly the crew is alive

      Unfortunately, not the entire crew is alive.
    13. 0
      April 20 2024 16: 26
      Unfortunately, not all of them (((military correspondents’ channels report
  2. Msi
    +11
    April 19 2024 08: 04
    3 crew members have been evacuated, and a search is now underway for another pilot.

    If only the guys were all alive and well... Very unpleasant video...
  3. -7
    April 19 2024 08: 04
    the pilots ejected.
    The pilots are alive and that's the main thing. After finding out the reason, it will be possible to discuss this topic. But what is characteristic is that there are always those who manage to film it and post it on the Internet.
    1. +4
      April 19 2024 08: 26
      But what is characteristic is that there are always those who manage to film it and post it on the Internet

      What's bad about it? Just wondering
      1. -3
        April 19 2024 12: 11
        Onlookers are the bottom! The same squalor as those filming car accidents, fires and corpses. The reaction of a normal person would be to provide help, or to protect themselves and their loved ones.
        1. +1
          April 19 2024 14: 30
          Helping in case of an accident is one thing. There is nothing you can do to help here, but the recording may be useful during the investigation.
        2. +1
          April 19 2024 14: 34
          Onlookers are the bottom! The same squalor as those filming car accidents, fires and corpses

          Did you read this news, watch the video and even leave a comment other than as an onlooker?
    2. 0
      April 19 2024 14: 39
      It was flying, burning in the air. We saw two flashes and explosions. It was over our Beloglinsky district. It fell among our neighbors, in the Stavropol region.. About the filming.. Yes, everyone now has a smartphone in their pocket. Two dead
  4. +3
    April 19 2024 08: 05
    It falls somehow strangely - on its belly. Something with the engine probably if there is a fire or fuel system. A bird could have gotten in and wear and tear from time to time.
    1. -19
      April 19 2024 08: 07
      Or an air defense missile with an infrared head flew into the engine.
      1. +7
        April 19 2024 08: 19
        Quote from Vrotkompot
        an air defense missile with an infrared head flew into the engine
        Do skakuas have anything to shoot at such a range?No.negative Doubtful. More like wear and tear, probably built in Soviet times.
        1. -5
          April 19 2024 08: 21
          Well, it’s a bit far from the LBS, most likely a malfunction. Or DRGs from our territory used MANPADS.
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                    1. +7
                      April 19 2024 08: 49
                      But they told you that they could have done damage over the Krasnodar Territory on the return course, where the A-50 had previously been shot down.
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          2. 0
            April 19 2024 12: 15
            I haven’t heard of them being used at all in the North Military District, unlike the Tu-95 and Tu-160. Yes, and there is little information. A fire is visible, and what caused it will be sorted out. It's just stupid to fantasize like that.
        2. +2
          April 19 2024 09: 27
          Conventional air defense. The same as we have in the Primorsky Territory. And the friendly ones are angry at their own, the vast majority of aircraft losses are from friendly fire. The system has its own complete PPC and nothing changes despite the loss of aircraft and flight personnel. The fightbomber on the channel has a lot of information about this, and I have no reason not to believe him. Of course, this accident will be dealt with, at first glance it was a technical malfunction, but no one canceled the friendliness. Even in the Stavropol region
        3. -1
          April 19 2024 11: 55
          Quote: Nastia Makarova
          if something has arrived in your head)))) what kind of air defense is in the Stavropol region????

          Portable ...
          1. -1
            April 19 2024 11: 56
            drg? Why see a Ukrainian trace in every accident?
            1. -1
              April 19 2024 11: 59
              Quote: Nastia Makarova
              drg? Why see a Ukrainian trace in every accident?

              Your words are your speculation. I only wrote one word...
              1. -2
                April 19 2024 12: 01
                That’s exactly what I don’t write about speculation until there is an investigation, but here everyone immediately writes their thoughts
                1. -1
                  April 19 2024 12: 04
                  Quote: Nastia Makarova
                  That’s exactly what I don’t write about speculation until there is an investigation, but here everyone immediately writes their thoughts

                  Why did you send me your set of letters?! belay Boring?
                  1. -2
                    April 19 2024 12: 13
                    If you're bored, why write comments?
                    1. -1
                      April 19 2024 12: 22
                      Quote: Nastia Makarova
                      If you're bored, why write comments?

                      What comment are you just commenting on?!
                      1. -2
                        April 19 2024 12: 28
                        first, let's end this useless conversation
      3. 0
        April 19 2024 12: 11
        In the Stavropol region? Very funny
    2. +8
      April 19 2024 08: 32
      Quote: Irokez
      It falls somehow strangely - on its belly.

      This is called a flat corkscrew. The plane can fall into it if there is a critical loss of speed. It is almost impossible to get out of it.
    3. +2
      April 19 2024 08: 51
      Falls somehow strangely - on his belly

      This is called a flat corkscrew.
  5. 0
    April 19 2024 08: 06
    Maybe he set it up before the crash in Dnepropetrovsk...
  6. +19
    April 19 2024 08: 07
    Flat corkscrew, flame in the stabilizer area....
    Fire of the right engine, loss of speed at a high angle of attack.
    It looks like they waited until the last minute.
    1. +6
      April 19 2024 08: 41
      My version: they launched missiles, fired back, and around this time a missile from a Patriot or S-200 hit, which was aimed using satellites or NATO flying radars. The pilots wanted to get to the airfield, but it didn’t work out. Fell. This is not the first time. The A-50 has already been shot down.
      1. 0
        April 19 2024 09: 29
        Our A50s were shot down. Read the information online about how it was organized.
      2. +1
        April 19 2024 11: 58
        Quote: Alexey Lantukh
        My version: they launched missiles, fired back, and around this time a missile from a Patriot or S-200 hit, which was aimed using satellites or NATO flying radars. The pilots wanted to get to the airfield, but it didn’t work out. Fell. This is not the first time. The A-50 has already been shot down.

        I can’t speak for the Patriot, but once you get the S-200 in the rear, you won’t reach anywhere...
  7. +8
    April 19 2024 08: 08
    It’s not surprising, the equipment works constantly with these military operations, wear and tear occurs. The main thing is that people remain safe.
    1. +4
      April 19 2024 08: 13
      Quote: Reaper
      The main thing is that people remain safe.

      And for the last one to be found alive. God bless them!
      1. Msi
        +2
        April 19 2024 08: 18
        And for the last one to be found alive. God bless them

        I agree with you.
        Elena, you are online again, we are hitting something on the energy system, but the light is still there in Ukraine... crying
        1. +3
          April 19 2024 08: 29
          Quote from Msi
          Elena, you are online again, we are hitting something on the energy system, but the light is still there in Ukraine...

          It’s not like that everywhere!!!! Do you really want me not to exist? CAN'T WAIT! laughing Although no, wait, but later. When will you destroy the Kyiv region? hi
          1. Msi
            +3
            April 19 2024 08: 31
            DO NOT RAIN!

            I hope you bought a diesel generator...
            1. +9
              April 19 2024 08: 37
              Quote from Msi
              I hope you bought a diesel generator...

              The pension won't be enough, but I have candles. I'll adapt them to the computer. laughing
        2. +4
          April 19 2024 09: 22
          Quote from Msi
          Elena, you are online again, we are hitting something on the energy system, but the light is still there in Ukraine...

          What kind of jokes, young man? Lena has been at VO since she was 11, and I can only express my respect to her for her civic position. love And I would like to wish you to learn to understand people. hi
          1. Msi
            +3
            April 19 2024 09: 32
            What kind of jokes, young man? Lena has been studying at VO since she was 11

            And I have been since 2013. Much later in the comments...
            And I would like to wish you to learn to understand people

            Elena, currently lives in enemy territory. If I see it online, it means there is light in Ukraine... Nothing more.
            1. 0
              April 19 2024 09: 35
              Quote from Msi
              And I have been since 2013. Much later in the comments...

              Remind me of your AK, not Meehan? wink
              1. Msi
                0
                April 19 2024 09: 37
                Remind your AK, not Meehan

                No... I’m writing to you that I’m new to the comments. I have been reading the news feed and history section from 2013 here.
                By the way, Meehan has not been seen for a long time. It’s a shame that they don’t allow a person to speak out...
                1. +2
                  April 19 2024 09: 46
                  Quote from Msi
                  I've been reading the news feed and history section from 2013 here.

                  Your AK was registered in 21. hi
                  1. Msi
                    +1
                    April 19 2024 15: 30
                    Your AK was registered in 21

                    Yes. Although on the site since 2013. I have been writing in comments since 2021.
                2. +3
                  April 19 2024 10: 33
                  Is Mihan not visible!? Yes, he is here every day under a new nickname.
  8. -7
    April 19 2024 08: 12
    It is doubtful that he fell himself, his tail is on fire. Apparently something hit him
    The Armed Forces of Ukraine again apparently transmitted something from the air defense, maybe another petriot has appeared somewhere
    1. -11
      April 19 2024 08: 28
      what kind of air defense is in the Stavropol region????
    2. 0
      April 19 2024 11: 53
      Quote from Alexwar
      It is doubtful that he fell himself, his tail is on fire. Apparently something hit him

      The engines are located in the tail. If the engine is destroyed, then there is something to burn there. The planes are far from new; due to intensive flights, wear and tear occurs at an accelerated pace.
  9. +1
    April 19 2024 08: 14
    The Russian Ministry of Defense clarified that the Tu-22M3 long-range supersonic missile carrier-bomber of the Russian Aerospace Forces crashed in the Stavropol Territory. The plane was returning to its home airfield after completing a combat mission.
    “The pilots ejected, 3 crew members were evacuated by the search and rescue team, and the search for one pilot is currently underway.” - added the Ministry of Defense.

    It is noted that there was no ammunition on board the plane and it crashed in a deserted area. There was no damage as a result of the incident. According to preliminary data, the crash occurred due to a technical malfunction.

    https://www.kp.ru/online/news/5772829/
  10. +1
    April 19 2024 08: 18
    Well, it's heavier than air. The main thing is that the pilots are alive, but the planes still need to be made new.
  11. +1
    April 19 2024 08: 20
    Quote from Alexwar
    tail is on fire

    There are engines in the tail, there is kerosene in them, the kerosene burns.
    I don’t know what its compressor is made of, but a titanium engine fire is much worse than any rocket.
  12. -10
    April 19 2024 08: 23
    along the way, "friendly fire" .... since the fall of Russian military aviation in this region has become more frequent, there may be something wrong with the "friend or foe" system... it's high time we sorted this out
    1. -8
      April 19 2024 08: 44
      along the way, "friendly fire" ... judging by how often the fall of Russian military aviation in this region has become, there may be something wrong with the "friend or foe" system ... it's high time to sort this out

      Maybe it’s a matter of a “layout” in Israeli microcircuits when we bought avionics from them. So it fails on command from the outside.
      I have suspected them of this since the disaster of December 25.12.2016, XNUMX.
      1. -2
        April 19 2024 09: 51
        Judging by the minuses for me and Crimean Partisan 1974, we are close to the truth.
        1. 0
          April 19 2024 10: 50
          Judging by the minuses for me and Crimean Partisan 1974, we are close to the truth.
          ...yes, that’s how it is...the truth stings the eyes of some...the truth is always bitter...we will follow the investigation of this incident...and if they say that the engines actually caught fire on their own... .that means definitely... there was friendly fire... just like with the A-50
    2. +1
      April 19 2024 09: 15
      Quote: Crimean partisan 1974
      along the way, "friendly fire" .... due to the frequent fall of Russian military aviation in this region,
      Hardly friendly, civilian airports in the Stavropol region are not closed, civil planes fly to Stavropol and the Ministry of Water.
      1. +1
        April 19 2024 10: 24
        Do you want to say that since planes fly to Domodedovo or Pulkovo, there is no air defense in these areas?
        They fly with the transponder turned on, and no one shoots them down. Unless they just turn it off and start juggling grenades under the substances.
  13. -7
    April 19 2024 08: 28
    The crew is alive and that's the most important thing. And we’ll make a piece of iron. Even better than the one that crashed.
    1. +9
      April 19 2024 08: 35
      Let's make a piece of iron

      How many of these pieces of iron have been made over the past 30 years? They will do...
  14. +3
    April 19 2024 08: 28
    Thank God the pilots are alive and healthy, I hope
  15. -1
    April 19 2024 08: 29
    Judging by the map they were hitting from somewhere in the Zaporozhye region
    In the same place where the A-50 was once shot down. They get something.
    We need to comb the drones, look for Ukrainian air defense, they dragged something there again.
    1. +1
      April 19 2024 08: 35
      The news of recent days is teeming with information about the need to transfer Patriot systems to Ukraine. Ukraine is on its knees. Maybe they installed something. Sweden promised them and Germany.
  16. -1
    April 19 2024 08: 30
    A plane crashed into a field in the Krasnogvardeisky District. According to operational data, there was no destruction or casualties, the pilots ejected (...) Two pilots from the plane that crashed in the Krasnogvardeisky district were found. They are alive, we are taking them to the hospital. All services went to the scene of the incident

    - wrote the Governor of Stavropol Vladimir Vladimirov.
    Well, at least not for residential areas. I hope the commission will clarify the true circumstances regarding the sabotage. I'm glad the crew is alive.
  17. 0
    April 19 2024 08: 34
    Quote: ilya63
    how many years does it take to build a strategist?

    Yes, they will never build it, we can’t make civil aircraft... Now we will spend the remains of ancient aircraft, and then they will tell us from above “it’s time to put up”
  18. -7
    April 19 2024 08: 34
    Quote: ilya63
    We’ll do it, but how many years does it take to build a strategist? The war will already be over... I really feel sorry for the bird, and he wasn’t old either.

    Quote: ilya63
    We’ll do it, but how many years does it take to build a strategist? The war will already be over... I really feel sorry for the bird, and he wasn’t old either.

    Why do you need a strategist? The launch is carried out in areas outside the enemy’s air defense coverage - why is this a gluttonous monster that carries a bunch of unnecessary hardware?
  19. +2
    April 19 2024 08: 35
    Quote from Alexwar
    Judging by the map they were hitting from somewhere in the Zaporozhye region
    In the same place where the A-50 was once shot down. They get something.
    We need to comb the drones, look for Ukrainian air defense, they dragged something there again.

    Most likely there was a fire in the engines, which led to loss of control and destruction of the tail section.
  20. -6
    April 19 2024 08: 42
    Quote: Dozorny severa
    Most likely there was a fire in the engines, which led to loss of control and destruction of the tail section.

    There can't be a fire in the engine; you can see what came into the plane from behind.
    At long distances, only patriot systems can hit them, and it’s strange that our air defenses don’t shoot down anything in the Mariupol area, or they aren’t there at all
    Again we need to comb the area, somewhere they have air defense, and it has the latest
  21. 0
    April 19 2024 08: 47
    Alas, there are few of them...
    Alas, they don't make things like this anymore...
    Alas, the technology is not new...
  22. -5
    April 19 2024 08: 50
    The pilots are alive, the most important thing, and this modification of the technical specifications was made for more than 40 years, from ’78 to ’93. This particular modification is the same age as f-16, and 670 of them fell under the definition of a crash. The technology is getting old and starting to fail.
    1. +1
      April 19 2024 18: 00
      What are you waiting for? Get off the couch, make a new super duper liner, Danila the master
  23. -2
    April 19 2024 09: 00
    Quote: Dozorny severa
    Why is this a gluttonous monster that carries a bunch of unnecessary hardware?

    The question is logical, most likely they cannot make ground-based launchers with similar range parameters...
    1. 0
      April 19 2024 15: 14
      I can, and moreover, they exist, the same Caliber and Iskander. Kinzhal, also known as Iskander, but as a MIG-31 launch platform. I looked at the requirements for launching the X-69 rocket, and there are restrictions on the release height, at least 200 meters. With a rocket weighing 770 kg, in theory it can be launched from a helicopter. Most likely, the bombers are being driven due to the lack of an inexpensive and mass-produced air platform.
      1. 0
        April 21 2024 00: 23
        Will you show yourself how a helicopter with a Dagger will accelerate to launch speed, exPerd? Or will you just leave it to aircraft capable of doing it?
        1. 0
          April 21 2024 13: 42
          I see that trying to fry meat on pieces of duralumin skin of airplanes takes up all your free time. laughing The PKR-35V was designed specifically for launch from a helicopter and did this quite successfully. Perhaps the designers will adapt the X-69 for launch from a helicopter. There was no talk anywhere about launching Daggers from a helicopter. By the way, I know a place where there is an assortment of duralumin pieces from a German aircraft. What if they, unlike Soviet duralumin, burn better?
          1. 0
            April 22 2024 17: 17
            If you're an idiot, then it's forever, it can't be treated, keep writing nonsense, let's laugh at least at exPerd - a gardener who discovered the Internet in his old age, it's a pity that not all
  24. 0
    April 19 2024 09: 42
    Planes always fell, and without any missiles in the tail or engine. The same one fell in my hometown, people died. There are no complaints about the pilots; they pulled to the last and ejected from a minimum altitude. The reasons for today’s crash will be reported, or perhaps not, and it doesn’t matter. For a country that produces airplanes, it’s not critical that the pilots are alive, but the airplane is just money. For Russia, the loss of airplanes of this class is significant; others will not be brought in. Our aviation is currently being driven away in the tail and mane, and mostly almost empty, the resource is melting, so, I don’t want to croak, accidents will continue.
    1. -3
      April 19 2024 11: 47
      We started with “Health” and ended with “Repose”! It won’t happen, Iran has already proven it! What to the Americans of Khan. And Iran, compared to Russia, is so-so warriors. Everyone has accidents, even if you follow traffic rules. drinks
    2. 0
      April 19 2024 12: 21
      I don’t want to croak, but I will!))
      1. 0
        April 19 2024 14: 54
        Here, croak, don’t croak, there have been, are, and will be accidents, this is technology. There are such terms as mean time between failures, metal fatigue, manufacturing defects and the notorious human factor. Another thing is that the causes of such failures must be minimized
    3. -1
      April 19 2024 17: 58
      4 boards in 40 days? under similar circumstances? with the fire and destruction of the engine block - everything is like a carbon copy.
      1. -1
        April 19 2024 18: 33
        Honestly, I looked up information about three aircraft. There is nothing else to burn on the plane, only the engines, so they are destroyed in a fire. Tanks also burn in the same way, but at least the reason is known. There will be an investigation, they will find the reason, and perhaps they will tell about it, but not now and not to everyone.
        1. +1
          April 19 2024 18: 49
          1 IL76 on takeoff near Ivanovo. 12.03.24/XNUMX/XNUMX.
          2. Drying near Sevastopol 29.03.24/XNUMX/XNUMX.
          3. Helicopter coast of Crimea 10.04.24/XNUMX/XNUMX.
          4. IL strategist.....
          1. -1
            April 20 2024 18: 29
            Thanks for the information. I think everything is understandable. They began to fly more and, accordingly, there were more accidents. Plus, the Air Force has begun to pay attention recently, before that there was only a reduction in both flight and technical personnel, and here are the consequences of this.
        2. 0
          April 21 2024 00: 17
          Let's paraphrase the catchphrase "Uncle Misha, are you?" (c)
          It’s easier to say that there is no fire on the plane. Even the casing burns, if anything, not counting fuel tanks, electrical cable routes, metal alloys containing magnesium. Learn the materiel, exPerd
          1. 0
            April 21 2024 12: 52
            Good afternoon, long time no see laughing I’m glad that your knowledge of the flammability of materials has become deeper and broader. Out of old friendship, I can share a piece of a disk from an airplane landing gear. It’s lightweight, you can take it on picnics, or light a barbecue.
  25. -2
    April 19 2024 11: 40
    The cars are old, and are even more worn out. Maybe that's why he fell.
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  26. -1
    April 19 2024 11: 55
    One of the crew members died, one is missing, and they cannot yet find it. The car fell in a tailspin; there was enough time to eject. Sadly…
  27. 0
    April 19 2024 12: 02
    One pilot was killed. Not confirmed yet. nope...
  28. +1
    April 19 2024 12: 04
    Strange problem. It looks like they caught a rocket with an infrared seeker, hence the failure of the engines and loss of control. In short, you need to look at how high the car was. In the video, MANPADS are clearly within range.
    This is clearly the work of sabotage groups. And not necessarily abandoned from Ukraine. We have been educating consumers for 30 years. If you offer him good money for such an action and with a guarantee that nothing will happen for it, he will not refuse.
    1. +2
      April 19 2024 12: 30
      We have been educating consumers for 30 years. If you offer him good money for such an action and with a guarantee that nothing will happen for it, he will not refuse.

      Well, we reassure such people by the fact that if they are caught, they will feed, treat and take them to the bathhouse. And if the wind changes, then maybe you will go free.
  29. 0
    April 19 2024 13: 09
    Two pilots were killed, including the ship's commander. Eternal memory to the heroes.
  30. +2
    April 19 2024 17: 54
    again the hat-throwers will throw hats at me, this is not the first time I’m writing this, but still:
    1. Il 76 takes off near Ivanovo - time!
    2. Sevastopol has two SUs!
    3. There, nearby, there is a helicopter - three!
    4. IL-strategist returning from a mission, on the descent - four!
    But I believe that this is the work of the power steering, for all these cases it is enough. so that the MANPADS operator is in the right place at the right time. The intelligence efforts of the United States and Banderastan's agents are sufficient to carry out such operations. Everyone has already been convinced by the example of how ships of the Russian Black Sea Fleet periodically shoot down Banderostan’s sea drones and other facts.
    HOW LONG will we wait for something? Isn't it time to hollow out the building of the Verkhovna Rada, the President's office, etc.?
    1. -1
      April 20 2024 11: 50
      And what will this change? Do they make MANPADS and unmanned boats there? All decision-makers are either in bunkers or outside the territory of Ukraine altogether.
  31. 0
    April 19 2024 19: 59
    Planes fell before SVO, and will continue to fall after. They are heavier than air. There is no need to be hysterical and come up with all sorts of theories about ukroair defense. Unfortunately, this cannot be changed. But the fact that there are many disasters due to the fault of flight personnel and aircraft failures is the merit of the “best commander of the Aerospace Forces” tankman Armageddon. Because of his “effective leadership,” the system of flight safety and aircraft maintenance has sharply deteriorated.
  32. +1
    April 20 2024 00: 17
    Quote: Vladimir80
    Yes, they will never build it, we can’t make civil aircraft... Now we will spend the remains of ancient aircraft, and then they will tell us from above “it’s time to put up”

    The conflict is designed to leave the Russian Federation with a bare bottom in terms of resource-intensive weapons.
  33. -1
    April 20 2024 15: 42
    No one yet knows the reason for the plane crash; a special commission will look into this.

    Not the first plane and the reason has long been known. They launch a long-range missile after our bomber. Our crew has orders to destroy long-range missiles first. Our air defense missile hits our plane instead of a Ukrainian missile. The “friend or foe” identification system has long been disabled, as it is common with Ukraine. We haven’t had time to develop a new one and replace it everywhere yet.
  34. 0
    April 20 2024 17: 53
    Yeah... Old man Tupolev's bombers are a blessing.
    In times of peace, how many people died...
  35. 0
    April 20 2024 21: 51
    Quote: 1976AG
    The Tu-22M3 is long-range, but not strategic.

    Formally, this is a strategist
    .he was specially “castrated”, but the essence has not changed