Rumors about a new wave of mobilization: under what conditions can it be announced?

In the last few days, active discussions on the likelihood of a new wave of mobilization in Russia have resumed on social networks. These discussions were started by several Telegram channels and military correspondent Romanov, who announced a new wave in the next few months: some are talking about May, some about mid-summer. These are far from the first “announcements” of this kind: rumors and “insights” about mobilization in Russia arise quite regularly.

The official authorities deny these rumors in every possible way - the head of the State Duma Defense Committee, Andrei Kartapolov, commenting on these rumors, noted that no mobilization will be announced in May, and that mobilization is a passed stage. According to him, the current system of manning the RF Armed Forces ensures the implementation of all tasks within the framework of the Northern Military District. However, as some bloggers sarcastically noted, the mobilization was officially denied two weeks before it began in September 2022.

The author will not guess from the tea leaves whether mobilization will or will not be announced on certain specific dates, since this is unproductive. The possibility of a new wave of mobilization directly depends on the emerging military-political situation, which is changing. We will discuss the conditions under which mobilization can be declared in this material.

For what purpose can mobilization be declared?

Rumors that a new wave of mobilization would be announced soon after the Russian presidential elections circulated on social networks back in January-February. The logic of such forecasts was that, before the elections, the Russian leadership did not want to spoil the political background, and therefore mobilization was postponed until later.

True, the question arises here: for what purpose will the new wave of mobilization be carried out? To complement existing parts and connections? But, according to official information, there are no problems with staffing (according to unofficial information, everything is not so smooth). For a full-scale offensive in some direction? But, again, no one has voiced such plans yet (although this does not mean that they do not exist).

For now, it looks like whether or not there will be a new wave of mobilization directly depends on the emerging military-political situation. Some experts also talk about this, for example blogger-analyst Yuri Baranchik.

“Whether there will be mobilization or not depends on the need for it. That is, from the plan. With the current format of combat operations: smooth advancement, disposal of the enemy as a priority, mobilization is really not needed. There are enough contract workers and volunteers, as can be seen by monitoring the dynamics of processes at the front. Mobilization may be necessary if there is a need to break through to a strategic depth to the Dnieper, capture tens of thousands of Armed Forces troops, etc. Mobilization will be needed and with reliable information that the conflict will expand.”

Relatively "breakthrough to strategic depth to the Dnieper“What Baranchik writes about, it should be noted that, in the author’s opinion, in conditions of trench warfare this scenario does not look very plausible. Despite the serious problems of the Ukrainian Armed Forces with manning and ammunition, the situation of a positional deadlock, which the author has written about more than once in other materials, has not gone away. A strategic breakthrough under the current conditions is practically impossible.

The idea that a strategic breakthrough can only be achieved with the help of a new wave of mobilization is somewhat naive, since in conditions of a positional deadlock, when neither side has dominance (precisely dominance, not superiority in a specific sector) in the air and is unable to protect troops from precision artillery and mass use drones in open areas, it is unlikely that an additional two hundred to three hundred thousand soldiers will be able to reverse the situation. Which, by the way, still need to be equipped and trained.

In addition, we should not forget that Moscow is not currently setting itself any grandiose military goals - no one is thinking about new campaigns against Kyiv. Limited offensive operations are carried out to improve the tactical situation and strengthen the negotiating position.

Regarding the expansion of the conflict, if NATO countries introduce military contingents into the territory of Ukraine, additional mobilization may indeed be needed. However, at the moment, NATO countries have not sent their troops to Ukraine, and it is unknown whether they will do so.

Under what conditions can mobilization be declared?

A new wave of mobilization, therefore, can be declared for two reasons - either to try to improve the tactical situation at the front by carrying out an offensive in some area, or in response to the threat of the military conflict in Ukraine escalating into a Russia-NATO war, if contingents of Western countries will still appear in Ukraine.

In the author's opinion, the first scenario is a rather dubious undertaking. If only because it will take time to train personnel, and in the summer the mobilized fighters will not yet be ready for this, and in addition, a new wave of mobilization will hit the economy. And the West will certainly take retaliatory steps.

It was already said above that achieving a strategic breakthrough will be difficult, but achieving tactical success on some part of the front is possible. Such an offensive, as already indicated, could be carried out not to achieve a strategic breakthrough, but, first of all, to strengthen the negotiating position in anticipation of possible negotiations, as well as to improve the tactical situation at the front.

It is unlikely that we will see the beginning of the negotiation process before the elections in the United States - at the moment there are no special prerequisites for this. But after the elections, there is some probability that negotiations will take place: if Donald Trump wins, as the American media note, the very next day after his election he will turn to Vladimir Putin and Vladimir Zelensky in order to begin coordinating negotiations between Russia and Ukraine .

Trump has repeatedly said that if he were president, he would resolve the conflict as soon as possible, so he will certainly make such an attempt. Whether it will lead to the conclusion of a peace agreement, and what, exactly, Trump’s plan will consist of are interesting questions, but they should be considered separately, outside the scope of this material. In any case, in this window until the fall, Russia will try to improve its negotiating position in order to negotiate more favorable terms in possible negotiations.

If, before the elections, the global elites force the leadership of individual NATO countries to send military contingents to Ukraine, then the military-political situation will undergo serious changes. The author has already indicated in the material what the deployment of military contingents of Western countries might look like. Will NATO troops appear in Ukraine: what is behind the French initiative to create an alliance to send troops to Ukraine – they will probably be placed out of range of Russian artillery, as part of some kind of agreement with Kiev on “security guarantees.”

This could happen, including if Russia achieves some serious tactical successes at the front. For the West (especially for Great Britain) control over Odessa and the Black Sea is extremely important. In addition, we should not forget that one of the largest investors in Ukrainian agriculture is the well-known Rothschild Foundation, and therefore they are extremely interested in ensuring that Kyiv does not lose control over key ports.

In this case, there is a high risk of the conflict escalating into a Russia-NATO war, with consequences that are difficult to predict. And mobilization in Russia in this case will become highly probable. However, the scenario of a global war is unlikely to suit the global players, so they moderate the conflict, indicating to politicians certain “conditions of the game”, which they, for the most part, are forced to accept.

If the intensity of the conflict remains at the same level, mobilization is unlikely to be required, since there is no particular meaning or need for it. For now, it looks like the military conflict in Ukraine is moving towards the “Korean Scenario” – a world without a peace agreement. This scenario for ending the conflict seems to be the most likely at the moment.

Comments

[Coward]

As I understand it, those who shout about it the most are afraid of possible mobilization.

[Uncle lee]

The military conflict in Ukraine is moving towards the “Korean Scenario” – a world without a peace agreement

Which is very undesirable!

[Pioneer1984]

Such a scenario would be a clear defeat for Russia.

[Jose]

A draw is tantamount to defeat.

[AAK]

"...however, it is unlikely that the scenario of a global war suits global players, so they moderate the conflict, indicating to politicians certain “conditions of the game”, which they, for the most part, are forced to accept..."
Thus, the author emphasizes that the President of the Russian Federation, like his opponent, is “forced to accept the terms of the game” dictated by certain “global players”... on TV, for us, for the electorate, it sounds one thing... but in fact everything is very and quite another thing...that’s why in more than two years we liberate less than half of the territory of the Donetsk region, and the Kherson and Zaporozhye regions will have to be renamed, since it is unlikely that these regional centers will be able to “return to their native harbor” in a more or less distant time "with such a pace of conducting SVO

[bayard]

Quote: AAK

with such a pace of conducting SVO

Plans are nothing, possibilities are EVERYTHING.
If the forces and reserves accumulated over the last year and a half are sufficient to carry out a large-scale operation, everything will take place this summer, because this year everything is favorable for this - the depletion of the enemy’s forces and means, problems with supplying the enemy with heavy weapons and, most importantly, ammunition, elections in the USA , which is why they do not participate in sponsorship of used fascists, and the accumulation of the necessary reserves, the deployment of sufficient forces of the RF Armed Forces. But many conditions and forces influence the final decision. So let's be patient and wait for summer.
Until now, the main goal was not square kilometers of liberated territory, but inflicting maximum possible damage on the enemy, depleting his forces and resources, while new formations are being formed in our rear, and industry is producing and accumulating everything necessary for the front. If the stars align well, this summer will be full of events... very favorable for us.

[Evgeniy39]

Have you stopped making friends with your head a long time ago?
Will Europe and the EU become exhausted ahead of us? The USA allocates $61 billion to Ukraine, + the EU almost the same amount, i.e. our 10-11 trillion, with our total defense spending 10,77 trillion. That is, the most modern weapons will be supplied, while not a single transport hub through which all this will flow has ever been struck.

[bayard]

Quote: Eugene39

Have you stopped making friends with your head a long time ago?

I try to maintain friendly and warm relations with my head.

Quote: Eugene39

The US allocates $61 billion to Ukraine, + the EU almost the same amount, i.e. our 10-11 trillion, with our total defense spending 10,77 trillion.

Well, first of all, let's not compare their dollars and euros with our full-fledged rubles. They don't fight with money. They fight with weapons and ammunition. So for equal amounts for defense and war, our armed forces will receive a multiple of everything they need. And their problem was not only and not so much in the allocation of funds (money), but in the ability to purchase weapons and ammunition for the Armed Forces of Ukraine.
In addition, the allocated used funds will reach it in the form of money in small quantities, and it also contains funds to support the economy and financial system of Ukraine. Those. not all of this money will go to weapons.
But this is really a lot. About the same as last year, when the Ukrainian Armed Forces tried to attack.
And this money will not add trained personnel, who are being exhausted at an ever-increasing pace. Mobilization will make it possible to throw meat into the army, but not trained, much less motivated, personnel.
But it looks like this summer the mess will be really... very serious.
The trick is that since the fall of 2022, Russia has been mobilizing the economy and building up ground forces at the rate of one full-blooded corps per month. . So a group of forces sufficient in number and equipment for an offensive has already been assembled, trained and undergone combat coordination. And I’ve even partially seen combat on short rotations. In addition, the number of the Russian Guard has been increased more than twice its pre-war size. And this is about 730 - 750 thousand bayonets. And most of this contingent is also for the Northern Military District. Everything has also improved with secure communications, combat control and UAVs of all types. And the fronts of the Ukrainian Armed Forces are cracking. In fact, this money can help somehow stabilize the position of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, but only if the Russian Armed Forces do not undertake large-scale offensive operations. And in general, the Ukrainian Armed Forces are now digging earth for fortifications even beyond the Dnieper and on the Dnieper line.
War, of course, is a changeable thing, but in it the capabilities of the parties, the will to win and stability within the warring society are much more important. And if Russia’s internal desire to fight and win is only growing, then there is a clear breakdown and general exhaustion. But you won’t last long on IVs and externally supplied saline solutions alone.

[Shtrek]

Coward

As I understand it, those who shout about it the most are afraid of possible mobilization.

It seems to me, on the contrary, that those who justify mobilization from cozy and safe studios and from soft sofas at home have an indulgence from ending up at LBS.

[Yaroslavl]

This is more correct, in the networks housewives drown for her, and they have no children or grandchildren, usually of military age, various pensioners who believe that someone else should fight, but not them... well, in general, a creepy bunch drowns for this is the case... well, there is a category - fools... no one has canceled them... but they are also unlikely to be subject to conscription...

[cpls22]

Quote: Yaroslavsky

in the networks housewives are drowning for her,

Or people from the other side, imitating housewives.
I would not be surprised if, after this whole story, TsIPSO documents surface, where priority areas of work are spelled out for Ukrainians in white and white - to aggravate interethnic hostility and fear of mobilization. After undermining trust in the command, these are 100% priority things. This is the alphabet. In order for mobilization to be feared, this topic must be constantly raised, but through the mouths of obviously inadequate speakers, intensifying opposition to them from constructively thinking opponents. In this situation, any official statements about mobilization activities will be met with cries of “we talked!” and “you lied!”, and such events will be perceived inadequately, as a harbinger of disaster. Which is exactly what the enemy wants.

[Yaroslavl]

You can throw as much as you like at the so-called TsIPSO, but I strongly recommend that you look for it in your head)

[cpls22]

Quote: Yaroslavsky

You can throw back as much as you like on the so-called TsIPSO,

What exactly do you disagree with in my comment? Or have you taken on the role of an inadequate person? Then this Yours projection and its causes yourself look in your head.

[Yaroslavl]

Well, you didn’t agree about the militant housewives, let’s start with this... you immediately washed them, assigning them to Tsipso) one way or another? Well, I responded by disagreeing with this statement) you wrote to me, and not vice versa

[cpls22]

Quote: Yaroslavsky

Well, you didn’t agree about the militant housewives, let’s start with this...they immediately washed them off, assigning them to Tsipso) one way or another?

Not this way. Read more carefully.

Or people from the other side imitating housewives.

These words of housewives are not canceled or “washed” in any way.

[Yaroslavl]

One way or another they will launder or cancel...we have different views on what is happening from the word completely

[Yaroslavl]

Thank you, don't bother)

[Yaroslavl]

Moreover, you have a lot of these minuses in your main message, but your minus wouldn’t make a difference to me

[cpls22]

Quote: Yaroslavsky

You have quite a lot of cons in your main message

I don't understand this abundance. This is probably an automatic reaction to a well-known abbreviation, which acts like mentioning a rope in a hanged man's house).
For everything else there are words, not cons.
I am increasingly coming to the conclusion that the comment mechanism on VO has degraded - it no longer serves for discussions, not for finding out the truth, but for the psychological relief of people who are terribly stressed by the current information background. The problem is that through comments many people re-load themselves, and everything goes in circles.

[Yaroslavl]

Most likely you are right, discussions have simplified into banal squabbles, well....what are the times, such are the discussions...

[man]

Quote: Yaroslavsky

This is more correct, in the networks housewives drown for her, and they have no children or grandchildren, usually of military age, various pensioners who believe that someone else should fight, but not them... well, in general, a creepy bunch drowns for this is the case... well, there is a category - fools... no one has canceled them... but they are also unlikely to be subject to conscription...

According to your logic, it turns out that evil pensioners and childless housewives need to be mobilized. Did I understand your point correctly?

[Yaroslavl]

In general, you don’t need anyone, my dear, there’s no way you can fit into my logic)

[man]

Quote: Yaroslavsky

In general, you don’t need anyone, my dear, there’s no way you can fit into my logic)

How are there no need for officials???

[Yaroslavl]

And earlier I wrote down who below, in detail) you can add the persons you specified there, you even need

[cytadell]

There is absolutely no need to announce it. Electronic accounting (register) of those liable for military service and reserves is already working. Electronic subpoenas are already being tested. Now the training of the required number of military specialists will be carried out as planned, with feeling, effectively and in order. It is only a matter of time to recruit 2-3 million people, train them, train them properly and send them to the necessary disposal of specific branches of the military. Without fuss, fever, panic and other nonsense.

[single-n]

On what basis will you draft these electronically registered people into the army? Without mobilization? And what kind of 2-3 million can we talk about? Here 300 thousand were barely digested. If tomorrow they call for 1 million, then all this will collapse. And for reference. Training for a simple infantryman. WITHOUT serious military specialty. This is from 2 to 6 months.

[cytadell]

On what basis were you called up for the previous mobilization? You know as well as me. As for the numbers, let’s not shake the air, as long as needed - they will recruit as much. And training, as I said, is a matter of time. Time is running...
Ps: I agree with you that not only numbers are important, but also military professionals. But in what proportion in the Moscow Region it is better to know.

[single-n]

Based on mobilization. If it doesn’t exist, who the hell will you call. And time goes by. Call for those 300 thousand in May 2022, not in September. Today our positions would be many times better.

[Aleksey Aleksandrovich]

. Training for a simple infantryman. WITHOUT serious military specialty. This is from 2 to 6 months.

All mobiles served urgently, so they have some skill. A month of training ground, normal instructors...

[boni592807]

Single-n. (Dmitriy). 15 April 2024 13:09. New. yours - “...On what basis will you draft these electronically registered people into the army? Without mobilization? And what kind of 2-3 million can we talk about.Here 300 thousand was barely digested. If tomorrow they call for 1 million, then all this will collapse. And for reference. Training for a simple infantryman. WITHOUT serious military specialty. This is from 2 to 6 months... "
It’s immediately obvious, dear ones. that these questions are a fog for you.
Normally, this work SHOULD be carried out constantly. Periodically, retraining is carried out according to categories and in the VUS, at the very least it was carried out in the USSR. For example before and during the Second World War there was a “Vseobuch” system in this area. Goal have more than just a "crowd" and having training and assigned to certain military units
At the “Big Red Whistle,” those assigned arrive at their places of dispatch to assigned units in the Armed Forces of Ukraine for specific positions. Further training. coordination and...
BUT this is only part of the question - issues of enterprise readiness (everything is taken into account IN ADVANCE by employees of enterprises for which the reservation is provided for the military-industrial complex) и other measures providing for example pre-organized and secured logistics. trained and availability of facilities (for example, bomb shelters) - Civil defense with a system of that. what is now called territorial defense from garrison military units and the Ministry of Internal Affairs to non-regular ones from among the employees of garrison enterprises. This is in GENERAL!!!
R.S. I would like to believe. that THIS is being done. Like the Sanitation of the Basmachi (Dushmans) in the rear

[Buchenland]

So this is classic urapatriotism, it is the same in all countries and societies.

[ivan2022]

Mobilization will provoke a war with NATO. Therefore, Russia itself will not initiate mobilization.
Russia already has huge reserves in the form of various armed security organizations. Kadyrov also said that if they were all attracted to the North Military District, then the size of the group could be multiplied.
Even without the Russian Guard, we have millions of officials of all kinds, and all of them are armed and trained to shoot even in peacetime. And almost any businessman has a personal carbine and shooting skills

[Uncle lee]

Quote: ivan2022

And almost every businessman has a personal carbine

But they are all pacifists and will not go to war!

[ivan2022]

And sending to war is not determined by the lack of pacifism.... Whoever organizes them will go to the front and drive any pacifist, if necessary. And regardless of his connections.
If these pacifists don’t care about your opinion, it doesn’t mean anything.

[dmi.pris1]

And then I look, they drove them. Some to Upper Lars, some to the “Kyrgyz-Kaysak steppe..

[ivan2022]

Why do you immediately come to the defense of officials and other “pacifists” who “will not go to war”? I'm just interested in understanding what motivates you....

[Zoer]

Quote: ivan2022

Why do you immediately come to the defense of officials and other “pacifists” who “will not go to war”? I'm just interested in understanding what motivates you....

I wonder if you are writing all this from the trenches? Or demobilized due to injury, or something else? Or are you one of those who will BE PERFORMED? And what do officials, businessmen and pacifists have to do with it? Let's assume that top-level officials have reservations. Do you propose to cancel their reservation and put them in the first rows? Just to do this, and rant like that, you first need to get off the couch YOURSELF. Nobody has yet canceled recruitment for theirs. So, welcome.

[man]

Let's say upper-level officials have reservations. You propose to cancel their reservation and put them in the first rows?
Great idea!!! The country will definitely not lose anything, but will even gain a lot!!!

[Zoer]

Quote: mann

Great idea!!! The country will definitely not lose anything, but will even gain a lot!!!

Yes Yes! Factories for workers, land for peasants!!! You also propose to hold fair elections!))) And dispossess the oligarchs!
During the last mobilization, these rats quickly passed a law on deferment for State Duma members. Do you think it will be different this time?

[man]

Yes Yes! Factories for workers, land for peasants!!! You also propose to hold fair elections!))) And dispossess the oligarchs!
Come on, I'm not such an extremist! Dispossess the oligarchs, these most honest and hardworking unmercenaries! How could you even think such a thing!

[Belisarius]

Quote: ivan2022

Russia already has huge reserves in the form of various armed security organizations. Kadyrov also said that if they were all attracted to the North Military District, then the size of the group could be multiplied.

And who will protect the power from the people? You say seditious, politically incorrect things. You would also suggest that the “security forces” begin to fulfill their immediate responsibilities and comply with the laws.
And then what to arm them with? There are still carbines and AKs. Where will we get tanks and infantry fighting vehicles from?

[ivan2022]

There are a lot of small arms in warehouses in Russia. There is no need to put everyone on tanks.

There is no need for as many security forces as there are now to protect power from the people. For example, under grandfather Lenin there were 14 thousand convoy troops throughout Russia. Under Stalin, during the period of repression, 30 thousand were the Internal Troops of the USSR. And today there are more than 300 thousand in the Russian Guard. Kadyrov is right, there is enough of them in abundance for everything and everyone

Experience shows that a small armed group can keep entire cities in fear and control, you don’t need many of them...

In fact, we have a semi-feudal class society. And in such a society, ordinary peasants have never been the main military force. The prince's squad is fighting. But for example, people like me are not trained at all and such people are of no use at the front. So why call?

[Doctor]

In fact, we have a semi-feudal class society. And in such a society, ordinary peasants have never been the main military force. The prince's squad is fighting. But for example, people like me are not trained at all and such people are of no use at the front. So why call?

It took a long time to prepare the squad. Swinging a sword is not digging with a shovel. Archers have generally been trained since childhood.
And now everything is simple, just knead the uniform for a couple of weeks, the rest is in place. People master Artu in months, up to and including gunner.
The main thing is GRADUATE. And we all seemed to have finished school.

[Vladimir80]

And now everything is simple, just knead the uniform for a couple of weeks, the rest is in place. People master Artu in months, up to and including gunner.

Surprisingly, citizens of Laos study VS in a month, and citizens of dill take at least a year (according to the statements of the same commentators)...

[Doctor]

Surprisingly, citizens of Laos study VS in a month, and citizens of dill take at least a year (according to the statements of the same commentators)...

Who are they teaching like that there, pilots? Maybe.
But most of the specialties on the front end are mastered in a couple of months. PMC Wagner will not let you lie.

[ivan2022]

I don't agree. In the USSR, the service life was 3 years, no big deal. And at sea for 4 years, if I’m not mistaken.
“Knock off your uniform and go to school” is the road to the grave.

The teacher told us this: “The main thing is not knowledge, but skills. Military skills are developed over years. Without skills, even if you are an academician, you won’t even move a car; it will stall.”

[Vladimir80]

“The main thing is not knowledge, but skills. Military skills are developed over years.

It’s also true, in the time of Peter the Great it only took a few months to learn how to march in step in formation, but you still have to learn how to pour gunpowder into a gun...

[Doctor]

It’s also true, in the time of Peter the Great it only took a few months to learn how to march in step in formation, but you still have to learn how to pour gunpowder into a gun...

Don’t compare the peasant of the Penza province of Peter the Great’s times and the current resident of the Internet. The current skill of a drone pilot will be mastered in a couple of weeks, but the peasant of that time will never.

[Essex62]

Drone pilot and gunner are good. Although in a month, and even a gunner, it’s doubtful. Is that why all the fields and copses there are pitted with craters, away from the VSUK positions? But who, tell me, will gnaw through the fortifications? Those who just yesterday saw a Kalash and understood where to hold it? In Russia, even the NVP has long been absent. What remained were young people, incompetents. And the forty-year-olds had already scooped up everyone they could. Or they themselves went for a long ruble, because where else do we have such wages for hard workers?
The authorities will not throw their support, the petty bourgeois class, into the meat grinder. The author is right, they are improving the position for an agreement. They are waiting for Trump.

[Doctor]

Drone pilot and gunner are good. Although in a month, and even a gunner, it’s doubtful. Is that why all the fields and copses there are pitted with craters, away from the VSUK positions? But who, tell me, will gnaw through the fortifications? Those who just yesterday saw a Kalash and understood where to hold it? In Russia, even the NVP has long been absent. What remained were young people, incompetents. And the forty-year-olds had already scooped up everyone they could. Or they themselves went for a long ruble, because where else do we have such wages for hard workers?
The authorities will not throw their support, the petty bourgeois class, into the meat grinder. The author is right, they are improving the position for an agreement. They are waiting for Trump.

Gryznya fortification is a lottery. Here the chances of forty-year-olds and young animals are approximately equal, maybe even those of young animals are higher, they are faster.
And how will the experience of the SA help against drones? There weren't any in those days.

PMCs understood everything a long time ago. Rambo is not needed, your health must allow you to complete tasks, combat experience is welcome, but not required, we will teach you the rest in 2 months. Kisses, Wagner.

Another thing is that the native MO, which shouted that 1 year is not enough, when it gets hot, often abandons it without any preparation at all.

[Essex62]

New realities of a new war? It's clear. You know better if you have realized in action and from your own experience SA training is not going well today.

[Doctor]

SA training is not going well today.

How will my ability to transport the wounded from the battalion first aid station on the AS-66 help me now? The download of which simply made me sick on time.
If no equipment except Niva survives closer than 10 km from the LBS. And then at night.

They drag everyone along with their hands and arms.... But the LuAZ-967, which would be the most cucumber for a girl, is sold from preservation to everyone. Apparently the Moscow Region doesn’t need it.

[Essex62]

For a moped, everything is the same - either a shishiga or a luazik. He'll catch up with a grenade. Although the machine is certainly perfect for LBS. I used to go fishing on this with my grandfather.
And on the topic - professionalism is the key to survival in war. Well, luck of course.

[single-n]

but not required, we’ll teach you the rest in 2 months. Kisses, Wagner.

I would like to see 2-month-old specialists - artillery technicians, signalmen, electronic warfare officers, cartographers, mechanics, pilots, air defense specialists, sappers, doctors - and even snipers :)))

[Doctor]

yes even snipers :)))

Well look.

1. Pavlichenko, Lyudmila Mikhailovna
309 official fascists.
Short-term sniper courses before the war. The rest is at the front.

2. Zaitsev, Vasily Grigorievich - chief of staff.
242 fascists.
No studying at all before the front.

Our most productive ones, if anything...

[single-n]

Well let's see.
1. Pavlichenko, Lyudmila Mikhailovna. In 1937 she entered the history department of Taras Shevchenko Kyiv State University. As a student she was engaged in gliding and shooting sports. Sportsman shooter with basic flight training. Typical conscript :))

2. Zaitsev, Vasily Grigorievich. Grandfather, Andrei Alekseevich Zaitsev, taught his grandchildren to hunt from early childhood. At the age of 12, Vasily received from him as a gift a Berdan rifle with a cartridge belt full of live ammunition..
Since 1937, he served in the Pacific Fleet, where he was assigned as a clerk in the artillery department. He rose to the rank of sergeant major of the 1st article by 1942. In modern terms, this is a full-time sergeant with 5 years of service.
Again, a typical conscript. :)
.

As a result, a young and strong, sportswoman shooter and a hereditary super-conscript hunter turned out to be a sniper.
It’s a different matter for a modern office placard, half of which held a machine gun only at the oath 15 years ago :) If it served at all, and didn’t get knocked down by all means. This is where the power and salvation of the fatherland lie.

I jumped with a parachute after a 10-minute briefing... And on horseback I started galloping through the fields after a 3-minute introduction. Would you like to repeat this with your family? Let's look at the injury rate.

[Doctor]

Well let's see.
1. Pavlichenko, Lyudmila Mikhailovna. In 1937 she entered the history department of Taras Shevchenko Kyiv State University. As a student, she was involved in gliding and shooting sports. Sportsman shooter with basic flight training. Typical conscript :))

2. Zaitsev, Vasily Grigorievich. Grandfather, Andrei Alekseevich Zaitsev, taught his grandchildren to hunt from early childhood. At the age of 12, Vasily received from him as a gift a Berdan rifle with a cartridge belt full of live ammunition..
Since 1937, he served in the Pacific Fleet, where he was assigned as a clerk in the artillery department. He rose to the rank of sergeant major of the 1st article by 1942. In modern terms, this is a full-time sergeant with 5 years of service.
Again, a typical conscript. :)
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As a result, a young and strong, sportswoman shooter and a hereditary super-conscript hunter turned out to be a sniper.
It’s a different matter for a modern office placard, half of which held a machine gun only at the oath 15 years ago :) If it served at all, and didn’t get knocked down by all means. This is where the power and salvation of the fatherland lie.

I jumped with a parachute after a 10-minute briefing... And on horseback I started galloping through the fields after a 3-minute introduction. Would you like to repeat this with your family? Let's look at the injury rate.

Here is a topvar article about the most successful snipers of the Second World War.
https://topwar.ru/24475-samye-rezultativnye-snaypery.html

Just look at the biographies.
Yes there are hunters. There is even a master of sports of the USSR - Pchelintsev.
But the vast majority are ordinary guys who saw a rifle for the first time during the war.
But I couldn’t find a graduate of the army sniper school, with at least 2 years of training.

[Essex62]

Sniper is not a specialty-vocation
And these are the most talented nuggets. One in a million.

[man]

They are waiting for Trump.
We were already waiting. And they waited. Did it help?

[Essex62]

And then the towers were not up to their ears in whoredom. They didn't really need any help. Everything went as usual. It arrived in Donbass, gas was regularly exchanged for buns.

[Vladimir80]

all the fields and copses are pitted with craters

I’ll give you a hint - communications and intelligence, and also the absence of military intelligence (not the one about money, but the other one)

[Essex62]

Who would argue? Can someone who has completed eighth grade make a fool and pull the “string”? I guess, yes. But what about the 43 gunners assembled on all fronts near Kursk, capable of slamming a BS or blank directly into the barrel of a “koshak”? Is professionalism no longer needed?

[GGV]

I don’t know about you, but from my district there are mobilization (privates and sergeants) in 2022. They were only up to 32-35 years old, and then mostly up to 30. But officers and older ones were called up (one was even over 55, although they were sent home after a medical examination). But those over 35 are only volunteers

[Essex62]

We've had a fair amount of both of them called up. True, some were returned. 35-40 is not a big difference. The most productive age, working hands.

[Doctor]

I don't agree. In the USSR, the service life was 3 years, no big deal. And at sea for 4 years, if I’m not mistaken.
“Knock off your uniform and go to school” is the road to the grave.

The teacher told us this: “The main thing is not knowledge, but skills. Military skills are developed over years. Without skills, even if you are an academician, you won’t even move a car; it will stall.”

From the bullshit. More precisely, from the desire of the generals to have more workers. At the same time, as soon as Afghanistan appeared, the price of this “training” immediately became clear; normal training was needed.

Super preparation didn’t help Group “A” on Zmeinoy either. Point U doesn’t care how many times you do pull-ups.

[ivan2022]

No.... but.. NOT FROM THE BULLSHIT. It’s just that the anti-Soviet and anti-Russian media built your brains that way. .

If commanders used soldiers to build dachas, this does not mean that a good soldier can be trained in a year. Instead of logic, you have only inspired emotions.

[2 Level Advisor]

Quote: ivan2022

No.... but.. NOT FROM THE BULLSHIT. It’s just that the anti-Soviet and anti-Russian media built your brains that way. .

Ivan, since you are talking about this with confidence, let me ask you: what does an ordinary shooter need to learn not just for a year, but for several years? and how, in this case, did the Wagnerites and the mobilized, after a month of preparation, manage and manage to maintain a database?

[Doctor]

No.... but.. NOT FROM THE BULLSHIT. It’s just that the anti-Soviet and anti-Russian media built your brains that way. .

If commanders used soldiers to build dachas, this does not mean that a good soldier can be trained in a year. Instead of logic, you have only inspired emotions.

Well, not from the bullshit, but from the inertia of the Second World War. The marshals are accustomed to their subordinates.
US Army Marine training is 13 weeks. But this is 13 weeks of intensive training, not painting fences.
And then - each war is different from the previous one. My 2-year term of service from the USSR would not have helped me much now, although I did not paint fences. Further 23-year service is already in officer's uniform, I think too.
Drones nullified all tactics and strategy of the USSR Armed Forces.

About the soldier for a year - a former warrant officer worked as a urologist in my hospital. I bought a diploma and in 3 years of adenoma I became trained to fight - be healthy. The patients were delighted with him, he treated them very carefully. Not surprising.

Colleagues, of course, noticed oddities, but not in knowledge of anatomy, here all doctors 10 years after graduation are approximately at the level of an eighth-grader, but in various tricks that a student cannot but know, such as Longus penis basis vita.

[man]

About the soldier for a year - a former warrant officer worked as a urologist in my hospital. I bought a diploma and in 3 years of adenoma I became trained to fight - be healthy.
Well, at least not a gynecologist. We have problems with demographics even without it

[Doctor]

About the soldier for a year - a former warrant officer worked as a urologist in my hospital. I bought a diploma and in 3 years of adenoma I became trained to fight - be healthy.
Well, at least not a gynecologist. We have problems with demographics even without it

I can give you the opposite example.

For some time, the Department of Urology at the VMedA was headed by a friend who, in addition to being a professor, Doctor of Science, etc. and so on. was remarkable for another fact.

During his entire work, he was never seen in the operating room.

I’m exaggerating of course, but the dude defended himself against prostatitis, memorized several treatment regimens and voila! Chief freelance urologist of the RF Armed Forces.

This is about the duration and quality of preparation.

[old64]

Ivan2022: service in the USSR since 1968 was 2 years in the army and three years in the navy. This was due to the higher overall literacy of conscripts.

[man]

In the USSR, the service life was 3 years, no big deal. And at sea for 4 years, if I’m not mistaken.
This is after the Great Patriotic War, in the 70-80s 2 and 3 respectively

[Margadon]

After the war, my father served in the artillery for four years, my uncle served in the navy for seven

[Vladimir80]

a small armed group can keep entire cities in fear and control,

not necessarily armed, enclaves of unarmed “valuable specialists” and “fight club fans from Emomali-stan” are keeping the Chelyabinsk region at bay!!!

[Zvonarev]

Do you know this from personal experience, or through the OBS?

[Wasiliy kostrow]

The neighboring Sverdlovsk region is also in panic. According to intelligence data, several thousand trained herds are being driven from Kazakhstan for the Basmachi entrenched in the Urals.

[Victor Leningradets]

But for example, people like me are not trained at all and such people are of no use at the front. So why call?

To learn and gain experience. Well, plugging the inevitable holes. And mobilized pensioners could load, carry, drive, cook, sanitize, guard warehouses, etc. Naturally, they are fit in health to perform such service.

[Essex62]

One in 10 thousand will be fit for health. Unless, of course, you mean the pence of cops and warriors.
Plugging the hole in the capitalist civil war is an excellent prospect.

[Victor Leningradets]

One in 10 thousand will be fit for health.

How many of these retirees have valid licenses? And/or a hunting license? Here's the real percentage.

Unless, of course, you mean penny cops and warriors

This will be the best reason to volunteer in your specialty.

Plugging the hole in the capitalist civil war is an excellent prospect.

The fate of pensioners in case of defeat will be truly terrible. So it’s better to go to the convoy and go home with victory!

[Essex62]

Those. "Get up, huge country..."?
Here we need to clearly understand that there is a victory in this war provoked by the bourgeois government itself? And what is the threat of “not winning” for pensioners? Will Bandera's men reach the Urals, cutting out every penny? Completeness. It's not even funny. The guts are thin. If they do this with the direct participation of NATO, the situation will be different. Just a loaf and go to heaven. So and so "pence" kirdyk.
This war should not exist at all. What is in the heads of the leaders of the Russian speculators and why did they arrange all this without strangling the weak Bandera bastard at 14, we will not soon find out. If we find out at all. And judging by the statements of forum members, on the military forum, mind you, they don’t really want to mobilize.

[Victor Leningradets]

Here we need to clearly understand that there is a victory in this war provoked by the bourgeois government itself? And what is the threat of “not winning” for pensioners? Will Bandera's men reach the Urals, cutting out every penny?

So in 1917, your predecessors reasoned: “The Germans probably won’t reach Tanbov!” and handed over everything to him, along the current western border of the Russian Federation.
For pensioners, “failure to win” - that is, defeat threatens them with the lack of a pension, or the absolute impossibility of living on it, paying for utilities and food. The result is housing for the treasury, pensioners in the barracks for disposable pasta, and medicine only on TV. True, given the state of health, this will not last long. If you take up a pitchfork, the punitive authorities will once again dispose of you as an internal enemy.
If you want to see how they will do this in alliance with NATO, there is a chance. Especially in relation to your children and grandchildren (if you have any).
I don’t intend to wait for this, and so at 70 I work where I need to, and if they call me up, I’ll serve wherever they send me.

[Essex62]

You very accurately outlined the actions of the anti-people, comprador government. This is exactly what they will do in a crisis situation, preserving their capital - to strangle their own population as an internal enemy.
Actually, today they are already engaged in replacing the population, on an “industrial” scale, with Wahabis from the SA.
If NATO comes here, I will remember what I was taught and die for my grandchildren, regardless of the pain. And to participate in the farce staged by the fighters, it is not clear for what purposes, even if in the third year they are not at war, and don’t understand what, excuse me.

[Victor Leningradets]

If NATO comes here, I will remember what I was taught and die for my grandchildren, regardless of the pain.

If NATO comes here (I don’t know where you are from), then the only thing you will have time to do is die and not remember what you were taught. Believe me, they were also taught what to do with unorganized spontaneous terrorists. Yes, and you will have to fight with the police from the Diaspora organized crime group, which ALREADY holds your grandchildren hostage.
It is possible to accurately predict enemy actions based on incomplete information - one of the components of the operational art. So I (finally) predict to you: if we (including you) do not break the neck of this reptile during the summer, then an escalation of the conflict with the participation of NATO is inevitable. I don’t know the plans of our leadership, but if they move away from the abyss of the agreement dooming us to defeat, then mobilization is inevitable. So you have to go.

[Essex62]

So what kind of leadership do you hope for in terms of organizing resistance, if you quite rightly note that the “diaspora” is already in our home and it is your leadership that is saturating the country with it?
There is no connection between the butting on the outskirts and life inside the country. Two parallel worlds. Simply having found themselves in serious trouble, trying to pull off an adventure, with some goals known only to them, the towers are forced to react to circumstances. They simply did not expect such meanness from their “partners”. For the bourgeoisie, nothing has changed, except for the inability to have Western goodies in direct access and at a low price. And most likely he will not react negatively to any agreement. They will only be happy, in the hope that everything will be as before. Mercedes, holidays in the Canary Islands, etc. This selfish, snickering mass doesn’t care about Donetsk children and those Russians on the outskirts who fell under the rule of the Seluks. They cut down the margin while the hard workers in the cold trenches fight for miscalculations or deliberate sabotage of the interests of the people, the bourgeois authorities of the Russian Federation. They will only stir when it is hot. They will react with a mass flight to the upper lars.

[dmi.pris1]

Are you talking about the Russian Guard? About the group? And keeping entire cities in fear? Still, I will defend these guys, those who are in Donbass with Zaporozhye and in the border areas..

[Zoer]

Quote: ivan2022

Experience shows that a small armed group can keep entire cities in fear and control, you don’t need many of them...

So the brotherly groups will control the cities while your Convoy troops guard the Kremlin.)))

Quote: ivan2022

But for example, people like me are not trained at all and such people are of no use at the front. So why call?

Well, in general, as I thought. Someone should fight, but not me. BRAVO!!!

[AdAstra]

Only the “faithful Pykhotins” of Kadyrov himself are not very noticeable on the LBS, who, whatever one may say, serve in the FSVNG, like him himself, are an integral general of this service, and of whom, as evil tongues say, there are already 40. Or should the Russian Guards fight exclusively from other regions?

[Alexey RA]

Quote: ivan2022

Under Stalin, during the period of repression, 30 thousand were the Internal Troops of the USSR. And today there are more than 300 thousand in the Russian Guard.

How lovely. Compare the operational units of the NKVD Internal Troops with the full strength of the RG, including the FSUE Okhrana.
It is necessary to compare comparable things. And then it turns out that:

By the summer of 1941, the internal troops included 173 people, of which:
- operational formations - 27 people
- railway protection troops - 63
- troops for the protection of especially important state enterprises - 29
- escort troops - 38
- in military schools and other institutions of internal troops - 15

But maybe Aunt Vika is slandering and blaspheming? Unfortunately no.
Here is “Extract from Minutes No. 60 of the meeting of the Politburo of the Central Committee of the All-Union Communist Party of Bolsheviks on the number of border and internal troops of the NKVD of the USSR. April 20, 1938”:

III. On the number of border and internal troops of the NKVD of the USSR.
1. Establish for 1938 the number of border and internal troops of the NKVD of the USSR:
a) border troops: 117 people.
b) internal troops:
1) operational purpose: 25 120 "
2) escorts: 28 "
3) for railway protection: 50 "
4) for the protection of industrial facilities and government buildings: 41 “
5) anti-aircraft artillery and anti-aircraft machine-gun air defense units: 3 "
c) military schools: 13 "
d) warehouses: 1 "
280 826 people
e) civilian personnel: 8 "

In total, minus the PV, the staff number of the PV in 1938 was 163 people.

[man]

But for example, people like me are not trained at all and such people are of no use at the front. So why call?
Oh that's it Don’t worry, “if you can’t, we’ll teach you, if you don’t want to, we’ll force you!”

[Belisarius]

Quote: ivan2022

For example, under grandfather Lenin there were 14 thousand convoy troops throughout Russia. Under Stalin during the period of repression - 30 thousand - these are the Internal Troops of the SSS

There were no riot police, no rubber batons, and in the holster there was a sandwich instead of a pistol. Why remember this now? Completely different government, different people, different social relationships.

Quote: ivan2022

In fact, we have a semi-feudal class society. And in such a society, ordinary peasants have never been the main military force. The prince's squad is fighting

Look, not so long ago we had a terrorist attack in Crocus. The bandits arrived at a huge concert backdrop, killed everyone, calmly set fire to the building, which burned down in forty minutes (but Agalarov, of course, was not guilty of anything), and calmly left. How many “security officials” were there? That's right, zero. They self-dissolved in the air despite the fact that there were several authorities nearby. Now try organizing some kind of rally. Firstly, they will simply send you away under any pretext, and secondly, even if you can, there will be 5 riot policemen in full gear between two protesters. Do you understand priorities?
And now you want to send these wonderful people to the front line. It is theoretically correct, but practically impossible to implement. Firstly, they need it?, at most, on a business trip to the rear for double salary and a veteran’s crust, and secondly, it creates unnecessary problems. The authorities do not need Prigozhin’s second campaign with a triumphal movement to the Oka River.
Now the authorities are conducting an illegal (from the point of view of the laws of the Russian Federation) special operation. Who are they signing up there? Those whom they do not feel sorry for are the residents of Donbass (there was total mobilization), criminals under any charges, and mercenaries for money. They would not have carried out the first mobilization (also illegal, by the way) if it had not been for the collapsed front. At the same time, note that even those who are mobilized are forced to sign contracts. They are forcing it.
So no “internal security officials” will be sent to the front line.

Quote: ivan2022

There are a lot of small arms in warehouses in Russia. There is no need to put everyone on tanks.

There is small arms, but there is no heavy equipment, much less modern equipment for the new units.
A small mobilization of 200 thousand is hypothetically possible if the losses exceed the number of people taking up the contract.

[man]

And who will protect the power from the people? You say seditious, politically incorrect things.
I completely and completely share your justified indignation!

[Denis812]

Mobilization will provoke a war with NATO.

Why? We’ve already had one and where is the war with NATO? Why should the second or third or tenth mobilization lead to war with NATO?

Russia already has huge reserves in the form of various armed security organizations. Kadyrov also said that if they were all attracted to the North Military District, then the size of the group could be multiplied.

This is a copy of what is being discussed in the Ukrainian channels in the telegram :) Like, there are more than a million people in the Armed Forces of Ukraine + the National Guard, but only 400K are fighting. Therefore, it is possible to send at least 600K to LBS.
I answer - NO, you can’t. A little bit is possible, but most of it is not possible.
Because the army is about logistics and service. One fighter on the front line means two or three, or even 4 people in the army who serve him. This is on average. In the Air Force, for example, it is many times more. Since one plane with one or two pilots requires a lot of technicians, airfield staff, flight managers and others. And they are all military. But if they are all sent to the front lines, the pilots will not be able to fight.

Cops, FSB and the like can be sent to participate in the SVO. But, I’ll tell you a secret, they are already there. They only work according to their profile.

[ivan2022]

Well, not to send to LBS, but to auxiliary functions.
To maintain order in the cities, such a huge number of different private security companies and guards and security forces, which we have had in Russia over 30 years, is still not needed.

The main thing is that it is better to send to the SVO people who have acquired skills in handling weapons over the yearsanyway. And there are millions of them in Russia in all sorts of “special structures” and among officials.

Another strange thing is that if you write this, immediately commentators, for whom there is no beast worse than an official, rise like a wall in defense: "No.. they won’t go!”..... No, how else will they go if the higher-ups force...

[dmi.pris1]

At the same time, I agree with you and don’t... Undoubtedly, it is necessary to use trained people. About officials, no. This is a matter of a person’s conscience. Will the higher-ups force it? So it’s easier to recruit vaneks from a plow than the “necessary people”.

[Zoer]

Quote: ivan2022

The main thing is that it is better to send to the SVO people who have acquired skills in handling weapons over the years, in any case. And there are millions of them in Russia in all sorts of “special structures” and among officials.

Oh yeah, of course! The skill of shooting from a PM at 25m will greatly help a 50-year-old official in digging trenches and shooting from an AK or howitzer.

[your1970]

To maintain order in the cities, such a huge number of different private security companies and guards and security forces, which we have had in Russia over 30 years, is still not needed. - we definitely definitely need to remove the security forces from the cities, yeah yeah...
And then suddenly they put terrorists...
How do you come up with such fiery ideas?

[man]

commentators, for whom there is no beast worse than an official, rise like a wall in defense:“No.. they won’t go!”..... No, how else will they go if the higher-ups force them...
Rather, the lower ones will create a new revolution...

[ivan2022]

For the same reason, mobilization will provoke a war with NATO as in 1914, mobilization in the Republic of Ingushetia instantly provoked the German Kaiser to declare war on Russia.

[man]

Quote: ivan2022

For the same reason, mobilization will provoke a war with NATO as in 1914, mobilization in the Republic of Ingushetia instantly provoked the German Kaiser to declare war on Russia.

You forgot to mention how the announced mobilization in ancient Rome provoked the attack of Carthage.
But I understand you. Oh, what arguments can you give just so as not to get up from the soft sofa?

[Denis812]

Don't confuse the current situation with 1914. :) In 1914, everything was perfectly clear to everyone.
Mobilization was simply a signal that war was inevitable.
And here Ukraine is at war with Russia. Russia has few people in the army. Therefore, Russia is mobilizing.
Now, if, for example, the Russian Federation calls up, say, three million people, then yes, it’s a no brainer that this is no longer about Ukraine. And if I were NATO, I would also begin mobilization.

[El Roz]

or vice versa? The more forces, the less chance of NATO intervention.

[paul3390]

they are all armed and trained to shoot in peacetime. And almost any businessman has a personal carbine and shooting skills

Alas, the ability to shoot alone is not enough in modern warfare... You need a bunch of other skills, the acquisition of which takes time and intensive training...

[man]

Even without the Russian Guard, we have millions of officials of all kinds, and all of them are armed and trained to shoot even in peacetime. And almost any businessman has a personal carbine and shooting skills
Judging by the disadvantages, it was mainly officials and small shopkeepers with carbines who settled in VO. The military is in a clear minority

[your1970]

Even without the Russian Guard, we have millions of officials of all kinds, and all of them are armed and trained to shoot even in peacetime. And almost every businessman has personal carbine and shooting skills -
And?
Maybe then they should immediately be imprisoned for rape? There is a device! "(C)
You are forgetting a rather serious thing, or rather 2 at once:
1) of the existing 3 million officials - 2/3 are women
2) the average age of the civil service, for example in Rosreestr, is 47 years. Which in turn means that as they age, they have mountains of real ailments caused by a sedentary lifestyle. Which will automatically increase the workload on military doctors...

[Ryazan87]

“There are millions of all kinds of officials, and they are all armed and trained to shoot in peacetime.”
Who is it that teaches officials to shoot in peacetime and equips them to everyone (not to mention the fact that the ability to use small arms in modern warfare is only one of the necessary skills)?
90% of employees of some Ministry of Finance have only seen military weapons in movies. Not to mention the fact that, indeed, about 70% of government civil servants are women.

[Denis812]

Maybe your colleague means that the destructive power of one district official in charge of government procurement is approximately equal to a small atomic bomb? :)

[man]

The average age of the civil service, for example in Rosreestr, is 47 years. Which in turn means that as they age, they have mountains of real ailments caused by a sedentary lifestyle.
So your health will improve in the fresh air and hemorrhoids will be treated

[your1970]

“So your health will improve in the fresh air and hemorrhoids will be treated” -
At one time, I was pushed into art reconnaissance with a broken nose and flat feet. Every morning, at the second kilometer, I passed out and fell, stupidly suffocating. Standard army methods - kicks / awl / collective - did not help.... Not at all...
As a result, the platoon ran in front, and I hobbled behind with the “chest of drawers”.
Hemorrhoids - they come in different forms, if that...

And yes, after reducing our Federal Tax Service departments to 5 on 36 districts of the region - howl WHY citizens began.
In the option you proposed, citizens will stand in front of a locked door with a sign “Come after SVO”

[gmada]

The ability to fire a personal weapon is not the most sought-after skill in modern warfare.

[Vladimir80]

Quote: Coward

I understand that those who are afraid of possible mobilization

Who can fall under it...

[Belisarius]

Very reasonable article. The author, in general, is an intelligent person (though with a strange point about Soviet nationality policy).
Mobilization was needed after the failure of the first stage of the operation: attacks on all of Ukraine recognizing its territorial integrity, and then the stop-Istanbul agreements and their failure.
Then, in order to change the situation, it was necessary to change the political input and mobilization (as Strelkov spoke about). However, time was lost, mobilization began only after the front collapsed, and the political introduction did not change.
Now the political introduction has come full circle and returned to the Istanbul Agreements; mobilization is not needed. There are enough people for the sluggish, bloody push-pull by recruiting contract soldiers for money; people go both for ideological reasons and for money, taking into account good conditions and deferment on loans.
And it’s already too late, it’s not enough to mobilize people, we need to arm and prepare them. And with heavy weapons, to put it mildly, there is a problem.
So, although the Russian authorities are capable of any unpredictable stupidity, mobilization is unlikely, only in the event of another failure of the front, which probably will not happen.
PS The conclusion about the likelihood of a truce without a peace treaty is also correct, but it still needs to be obtained, the West benefits from an endless, sluggish war, and it won’t let us go so easily.

[Vladimir80]

And with heavy weapons, to put it mildly, there is a problem.

I would say there are problems with useful and effective weapons; “iron boxes” and antediluvian guns can be taken from conservation if desired.

[Boris Sergeev]

The author casually states the failure to achieve the goals of the “SVO” - all kinds of “denazification” and “demilitarization”. The coveted “agreement,” which Putin could only tell Lukashenko about, since he had no other listeners even in the CSTO, involves accepting Crimea for “lease” with the prospect of a new referendum and deciding the fate of Donbass at “presidential negotiations.” That is, “a gang of Nazis and drug addicts settled in Kyiv” turns into deciders of the fate of the territories included in the Russian Federation. Moreover, if the conflict is frozen, Ukraine becomes a member of NATO, if not de jure, then de facto, and American missiles will be stationed near Kharkov. In addition, to pump up Russophobia, Bandera’s followers won’t even have to invent anything - they will talk about Bucha and Bucha. Was this the “brilliant plan” of those who, having failed once, are ready to fail again?

[Boris Sergeev]

E. Kholmogorov:

Defeat (and a truce with Ukraine cannot be turned from defeat into victory by any propaganda) will undermine the two ideological bonds on which the legitimacy of the Russian government rests.

1. We are the heirs of the Great Victory over Nazism.

2. We have a great army, and if anything, we will show everyone.

Now the entire system of the Russian Federation rests on the fact that any axioms are disputed except for these. And May 9 is the holiday of these axioms, these bonds, and both together.

Creeping away from Ukraine with a miserable treaty like the one discussed in Istanbul and with territorial acquisitions in the form of the borders of the LDNR, which in 2014 could be restored with the help of two regiments, would mean:

1. We declared war on our symbolic enemy - Nazism - and turned out to be unworthy of our grandfathers.

2. Our army cannot, it is a third world army, and not the best.

[Scalpel]

These clamps are not the main ones! It is based on the idea that Russia was, is and will be. That no matter how many times we fall, we will still get up, endure everything, find a way out of any situation. In our history, in addition to great victories, there was the Yoke, there was the Troubles, there were failures of the Crimean and Russian-Japanese wars. Even the Revolution and civil war ultimately led to the revival of Russia!

[Kronos]

2 Point 2022 dissipated back in XNUMX when real hostilities began with a strong enemy.

[El Roz]

Ukrainian defeats in 2023 and 2024 will continue. There were no “failures” after the only Kharkovsky (2022). With weapons for 600 thousand everything is ok now. It won’t be enough for another 600,000, but you can buy it from the DPRK, plus they have now turned on the factories at full capacity, especially since the resources are flowing to them.

[Zoer]

Quote: El Roz

There were no “failures” after the only Kharkovsky (2022).

What about the Kherson regroupings? Isn’t the Begorodchina on fire a failure?

[parusnik]

though with a strange fad about Soviet nationality policy

There is also a point. The author promotes the idea of ​​revolutionary conservatism, and he considers Salazar, Franco, Mussolini and other similar personalities to be prominent representatives of this idea

[man]

The West benefits from an endless, sluggish war; it won’t let us go so easily.
This is understandable, but what is the solution? Can you offer anything real?

[Belisarius]

Quote: mann

This is understandable, but what is the solution? Can you offer anything real?

This has already been proposed a million times since 2022. And they talked and screamed and shouted. A variety of people of various views, from communists to monarchists.
1) Withdraw recognition of the Zelensky government. Without this, from the point of view of international law, we are simply aggressors.
2) Introduce “SVO” into the legal framework within Russia (so far, from the point of view of the law, no “SVO” exists at all).
3) Start fighting in a normal way, that is, attacking the political leadership, communications, television, etc. And not fight according to the principle - here I fight, here I don’t fight, and here I wrap fish.
After completing these three points, it is already legal to carry out mobilizations and all other similar events (and this applies not only to the front, but also to the rear).
But all this turned out to be completely pointless. Amazing people in power in the Russian Federation, with the tenacity of a madman, believe that they can come to an agreement with their Western bosses, while at the same time they do not want to comply with any laws and do not bear any responsibility.

[Disant]

The West benefits from an endless, sluggish war; it won’t let us go so easily.
This is understandable, but what is the solution? Can you offer anything real?

1. make better electronic warfare to protect infantry and make more bombs like FAB and ODAB with UMPC that can glide even further.

2. start implicitly, without evidence, hammering satellites that are not of the first magnitude in importance - at least in the form of a warning - putting optics and microcircuits out of action. but then they’ll start shouting like this... but we’ll still have to start - they’ve already started to little by little try to hit our nuclear triad (UAV strikes on airfields with carriers).
3.
you can hit one key hall - it’s like sinking an aircraft carrier - they already practiced rapprochement several years ago. but this is extreme. because of such a goal, the third world war with a nuclear weapon will easily begin, this is a different scenario, not “sluggish”, it also fits your question parameters, as an option

[Lech from Android.]

A new mobilization means the separation of workers from the Russian economy... which, again, will have to be filled with Tajiks and Uzbeks, with known consequences for the rest of Russian citizens.
So this is balancing on a knife’s edge...the inauguration of the Russian President is ahead...until this moment, the country is unlikely to host any large-scale events related to mobilization.

[75 Sergey]

Well, there will be fewer outbids; we need to mobilize them selectively.

[Zoer]

Quote: Lech from Android.

A new mobilization means the separation of workers from the Russian economy... which, again, will have to be filled with Tajiks and Uzbeks, with known consequences for the rest of Russian citizens.

But this replacement of the population by Uzbek-Tajik people doesn’t really bother anyone up there.

[75 Sergey]

Mobilization is simply necessary! Without it, the Nazis cannot be brought down.

[Vladimir80]

Mobilization is simply necessary! Without it, the Nazis cannot be brought down.

Set an example!!!
P.S. With the current generals of Laos and the methods of war a hundred years ago, this is the shortest path to the collapse of the Laotian state and the formation in its place of the North Tochik Caliphate

[Boris Sergeev]

Now don’t we have a “caliphate-khaganate”, in which Russians perform decorative functions at the head of some institutions? Who controls the country's resources? Look at the national composition of the oligarchs.

[Vladimir80]

In our country everything is good and decent, but in unfortunate Laos, yes - half is controlled by the proteges of the IMF, the other half is controlled by supporters of the “Great Turan”, and above all this are the beautiful, but unnecessary, words of the Supreme Emir!

[El Roz]

this is the future of Ukraine. Yes. no light, no factories, and so on

[leks]

Before the first mobilization, they also said that there was no need for mobilization, that the army was coping and all the assigned tasks were being accomplished.
So, if there is a mobilization, no one will ask us.
If we think sensibly, then this mobilization is necessary, otherwise this crisis will last for a very long time.

[seefahrer]

They also said about raising the retirement age that they won’t raise it..
There has been no faith in these talkers for a long time.

[leks]

What are we talking about!
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[Darkdimon]

Is a strategic breakthrough practically impossible under the current conditions? What if they mobilize two million?

[Scalpel]

When will there be enough missiles, planes, helicopters, drones, artillery, tanks, armored vehicles, conventional and engineering vehicles, observation and fire control devices, small arms, shells, cartridges, special equipment, food, clothing, medicine, etc. for these two million? so for the entire duration of the conflict and with more to spare! And also commanders, educational institutions, training grounds.

[AdAstra]

Your wife and children will go to work at the plant “sharpening shells,” huh?

[Cartographer]

Robots should sharpen the shells, wisely.
During the war, automatic rotary lines were invented to produce millions of cartridges

[parusnik]

Robots should sharpen the shells, wisely.

And we will buy them in China? In order for robots to work hard and not people, we need to organize their own production, from bolts to everything else. And for this we need developers, trained specialists, builders, or will migrants be suitable as builders of these enterprises?

[Darkdimon]

Can you tell me where to get them from? Kadyrov's proposal couldn't come at a better time.

[Moneron]

whether there will be or will not be mobilization is the prerogative exclusively of the “Politburo” headed by the guarantor...and secret advisers next to the body. conclusions based on supposed future hypothetical events are meaningless verbiage....it has turned into a sore tooth, tormenting the population for the third year. here, in order to get rid of the protracted torture, you will be ready for mobilization....if it helps.

[Igor1915]

Everything that we do is often very opaque, which gives rise to speculation - let’s say I haven’t heard that those who were called up in ’22 are going home, if this is not the case, then people have been without rotation for 1.5 years at the front??? - If they return home, why don’t they write about it?

[cloner]

Because none of those mobilized returned home. Everyone serves. Several of my friends were mobilized for, like, a year. A year later they said that they would fight until the end of the Northern Military District. For a year and a half, some were on vacation once, some twice.

[Igor1915]

I think this is not entirely correct for them; for me, either all healthy people should be there (with the exception of those needed for life support) or there should be only contract soldiers.

[moscowp]

Why might mobilization be announced?:
1. Ukraine has announced additional mobilization; to maintain at least parity, it is necessary to build up its own group of troops
2. The previous wave of those mobilized has been in their zone for more than a year. They may require rest and rotation, just like regular military personnel at war.
3. A huge amount of administrative and organizational work has been done on electronic summonses, etc.
4. I have been living in our country for a long time. There is one sure sign. If the authorities strongly assure you of something from the TV screens, then it will definitely happen exactly the opposite. “Prices will not rise,” “the ruble is a reliable currency,” “there will be no mobilization,” etc. I remember well how in 2022 everyone said a lot that there would be no mobilization and at the same time preparations for it were underway.
So I believe that mobilization may happen this year, because... there are prerequisites for it

[Alien From]

Believing the 87 percent means disrespecting yourself!

[Scalpel]

Rotation is carried out. They are taken to the rear in the front line and allowed to rest. Again, someone must pass on combat experience to the volunteer reinforcements that arrive daily.

[cloner]

What do you mean by rear? 10-20 km from the front line is not the rear in the modern sense. Nowadays more people fly in such “rear areas” than in the trenches. So there is no rotation and there will not be. My friend started fighting in December 2022 and is still fighting without rotation. Although, of course, he is an artilleryman, not in the first line, so we can say that he is on vacation in the rear. They only work from the rear every day and the answer arrives.

[Idle_piston]

I think that first we need to carry out labor mobilization.

[AlexWar]

We need a breakthrough, otherwise we will only take one line of defense and fight the next. And in my opinion, taking more victims again and again will be more than going through three lines of defense at once and going to their rear.
Due to flooding, it may be delayed. Kurgan can start drinking, but they are making armored personnel carriers and infantry fighting vehicles
The Chinese began to block Russian payments. The news came out this morning.

[AlexWar]

It is necessary to attack, otherwise the war will be greatly delayed, people also need to be changed before they go crazy
It is necessary to attack for another reason: the war is a war in Palestine, missiles are also being consumed there. This is like our second front. The US will save Israel and not Ukraine.

[Vladimir80]

otherwise the war will be greatly delayed, people also need to be changed before they go crazy

Before heating the hut, you need to close the doors and caulk the cracks in the walls.... Otherwise you will just heat the street! (I’m talking about bridges and the top of Bandera’s followers, if anyone doesn’t understand)

[Scalpel]

And I think that the post-war peaceful era is ending. It will be like during the Thirty Years' War in Europe until a generation changes.

[Vladimir80]

We need a breakthrough

Of course it is necessary, who can argue. There was one military commander in Laos, a great theorist of breakthroughs, assembled a tank column and sent it to attack through the Khmer minefields...

[Victor Leningradets]

We need a breakthrough, otherwise we will only take one line of defense and fight the next. And in my opinion, taking more victims again and again will be more than going through three lines of defense at once and going to their rear.

So you are Zhukov arr. catch up with the winter of 1945. This is precisely the meaning of the Vistula-Oder operation.
But in our realities, nothing can be achieved simply by numbers. We need operational art that ensures deep breakthroughs. We need logistics that allow us to transfer army groups in a matter of HOURS. Air supremacy is needed to ensure airborne landings and cover ground operations behind enemy lines.
What is needed is the massive and at the same time competent use of modern weapons in order to block enemy groups and deprive him of the opportunity to transfer reserves. You need to be able to organize a panicked flight abroad behind enemy lines and an occupation regime in the occupied territories. And we cannot do without mass mobilization of the male population, including pensioners fit for service.

[Vladimir80]

What is needed is the massive and at the same time competent use of modern weapons in order to block enemy groups and deprive him of the opportunity to transfer reserves. And we cannot do without mass mobilization of the male population, including pensioners fit for service.

Sorry, but there is no logic. The lack of competent use and modern weapons cannot be compensated for by mobilization.

[Victor Leningradets]

The lack of competent use and modern weapons cannot be compensated by mobilization

Where do you see the lack of logic?
Without the presence of modern weapons and their competent use, to pile on in numbers is simply to quickly turn this meat grinder in the image of Verdun and Stokhod.
But the lack of sufficient human resources on the line of combat contact, in strike groups and in support services are circumstances that do not allow us to achieve a quick and decisive victory. And there really cannot be another one, since with the escalation of the conflict throughout Europe, our victory is problematic.

[Vladimir80]

to pile on in numbers is just to spin this meat grinder faster in the image of Verdun and Stokhod.

+1000!!!! and why then mobilization???

[Spaceman111]

Taking into account legislative innovations in this area, I would rather consider targeted, targeted mobilization, distributed over the time and space of the country. This approach allows you to react flexibly in current conditions and does not burden the country additionally. There are enough volunteers, but for training and rotation this option is possible. However, in order to avoid misunderstandings of the past process, I would consider the option of extended summer training camps to determine the quality of the squad and conduct preliminary basic training (KMB), which will allow the formation of a certain reserve.

[Vadim S]

Of course there are no plans, they would have said that there are, and most importantly, when many have already been taught, the upper Lars would again burst from the patriots. Although, of course, it’s stupid to see it at the border, I know people bought campers and prepared to sit out in the open spaces. I also know rich people, they have something to lose, they bought armor for themselves. So you can reassure with articles, but people are ready.

[NSV]

Suspicious article: a link to the former chief political officer who so often tells lies....

[Vladimir80]

Quote: Boris Sergeev

turned out to be unworthy of their grandfathers

Golden words, but the majority of the population is not worried about this...

[ivan2022]

I read the comments and I’m simply amazed at how decisively the commentators stand up for the defense of the huge mass of millions of Russian officials, private security officers, security forces of all stripes, who “cannot be sent to the Northern Military District!” Because “they are thieves and won’t go.”

The desire to put one’s own hump on the line and protect all the thieves and millions of those who have already developed skills in using weapons over the years is rushing with terrible force. Psychology, however! This is understandable, already 4 centuries of serfdom....

[Vladimir80]

Quote: Streck

those who justify mobilization from cozy and safe studios and from soft sofas at home have an indulgence from ending up on LBS.

These are either chatbots, or paid propagandists and lured experts...

[Alt 22]

If it is necessary to mobilize, then only those who have been receiving money from the state for a long time for protecting it with weapons in their hands. VVshenikov, the Russian Guard, and all other security forces. The men at the front need to be replaced. And if you take ordinary people, then ONLY IN THE PLACE of the Russian Guard, VVshnikov and all others who, receiving money from the state for the protection and defense of the country, are in the rear. If anyone is mobilized from ordinary civilians, then only to the rear, and not to the front.

[AdAstra]

BB is now the Russian Guard

[Alt 22]

You're right. But you get the point - people receive money from the state to protect them, but for some reason they send others to defend them who did not sign up for this! And, as a rule, they are sent NOT VOLUNTARILY - by mobilizing them, and putting them in prison if they refuse.

[Yaroslavl]

Absolutely right, just before the Northern Military District, tens of thousands of young military pensioners abruptly quit, now they received apartments with certificates, a full early pension, and sitting in their offices in civilian life they laugh at the guys who went to fight for them, having received nothing from the state....problem It’s a myth with people, there are millions of young military pensioners in the country... they must serve for all the goodies they received... otherwise, they will be deprived of housing received under a certificate and an early pension, like everyone else at 65

[your1970]

If it is necessary to mobilize, then only those who have been receiving money from the state for a long time for protecting it with weapons in their hands. VVshenikov, the Russian Guard, and all other security forces. The men at the front need to be replaced. And if you take ordinary people, then ONLY IN THE PLACE of the Russian Guard, VVshnikov and all others who, receiving money from the state for the protection and defense of the country, are in the rear. great idea, just brilliant...
Apparently you want a Crocus for us in every city?

[Yaroslavl]

Where were all these services when he was hired? who is to blame for bringing millions of migrants here? They brought them, these services protect only them... it doesn’t make it any easier for the people... so the idea is quite normal, let them take a rifle and go to the front

[your1970]

Where were all these services when he was hired? who is to blame for bringing millions of migrants here? They brought them, these services protect only them... it doesn’t make it any easier for the people... so the idea is quite normal, let them take a rifle and go to the front - over the past year, brought under the article terrorism about 360 business People will probably immediately feel better if they start business there is nobody will be?

[Yaroslavl]

The people will feel better when all the migrants, with their families, are evicted from here forever... and there will be no need to prevent anything. That's all, my dear... doesn't it seem that they themselves create problems in order to overcome them victoriously? some kind of obscurantism for the average person... and he falls for it, unfortunately

[your1970]

The people will feel better when all the migrants, with their families, are evicted from here forever... and there will be no need to prevent anything. That's all dear... Well, read it, my dear, against whom those 360 ​​cases of last year were initiated. For some reason there weren’t a single migrant there - they were all from us, local...

[Yaroslavl]

I confess I haven’t read these cases... but I still believe that even if these are locals, then they are just performers... by the way, not all Tajiks did not have citizenship, they are also locals, right?

[Alt 22]

About yours

Apparently you want a Crocus for us in every city?

- you are hinting that some of the security forces, whom the state would send to work off the money received from the country, would go in protest that they are being sent to war, trained hefty foreheads, and not ordinary workers Vanek and Petek - they would go and carry out terrorist attacks, right?
Oh, I understand - you are hinting that without simple troops from the Russian Guard, a wave of terrorist attacks will begin, right? Well, that’s what I said - in their place, mobilize ordinary civilian men so that they serve in the rear.
And terrorists are identified and killed by operatives and special forces, and not by ordinary people from the Russian Guard.

[your1970]

Well, that’s what I said - mobilize in their place ordinary civilian menso that they serve in the rear. - but simple Do civilian men know the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation - for starters? Or the Law on Weapons - since IT is also the National Guard? Or do they know the specifics of the combat regulations of special units for the protection of particularly important facilities, in particular nuclear power plants, which the Russian Guard also protects?
And who will replace these men in their jobs?

[Million]

It is strange that Krmel does not voice the military goals of the North Military District, not political ones such as demilitarization and denazification, but specifically military ones.

[Aleksandr_85]

How to voice something that is not there? The plan that was in place did not work out, now we are waiting for weather by the sea.

[Zoer]

Trump has repeatedly said that if he were president, he would resolve the conflict as soon as possible

Yes, he said a lot of things. And that Crimea is recognized as Russian. But when I became president, I immediately forgot about it.
I wouldn’t have any illusions about Trump or the US elections in general.

For now, it looks like the military conflict in Ukraine is moving towards the “Korean Scenario” – a world without a peace agreement. This scenario for ending the conflict seems to be the most likely at the moment.

Doubtful, very doubtful. Remembering how the Armed Forces of Ukraine hammered Donbass for all 8 years... Although, our leaders are probably quite happy with this option. What did they care about that Donetsk for 8 years? What do they care about the Belgorod region now?

[avia12005]

Fortune telling on tea leaves whether there will be or will not be mobilization.

It will be needed only when a political decision is made about the need for victory. He's gone.

Any agreements in a situation where there is no military defeat of Khokhloreich means pushing the solution to the problem into the future with the likelihood of the most negative scenarios developing.

It is difficult to say now about the feasibility of this approach.

But we can assume that relying on anyone, be it Trump or Zeus, is destructive.

Any agreement is only worth something when there is force behind it.

[Deon59]

The two presidents of Laos and Benin are sitting and having a conversation.
How did you manage to maintain power for more than 20 years?
The main thing is not to have oligarchs. How about you, everyone unanimously votes for you, even the Constitution for themselves
The slogan is if there is no war and everyone gets pissed in the toilet.
So it's war
New slogan everything for Victory
And when is Victory
I don't know myself

[AdAstra]

"Limited offensive operations are being carried out to improve the tactical situation and strengthen the negotiating position."
Yeah, that's where the dog rummaged. Negotiations are still...

[AdAstra]

“If Donald Trump wins, as the American media note, the very next day after his election he will turn to Vladimir Putin and Vladimir Zelensky in order to begin coordinating negotiations between Russia and Ukraine.”
Well, yes, well, Trump is our everything. When will we finally stop relying on anyone other than ourselves?

[Aleksandr_85]

The famous maybe should save everyone.

[parusnik]

Well, yes, well, Trump is our everything.

Trump’s first presidency didn’t teach us anything. They didn’t really kiss Trump’s gums. They didn’t become friends. That’s why they rely on Trump, which they can’t rely on themselves. Russia is now in such a fog that “you can’t even see your paws.” (c) “I’m in the river. Let the river itself carry me,” the Hedgehog decided, took a deep breath as best he could, and was carried downstream. “I’m completely wet, I’ll soon drown.” (c) And suddenly someone I didn’t touch his back paw so I could sit on his back to save him.

[Alexey Lantukh]

To mobilize or not to mobilize is a strategy. And what competent and responsible departments will talk about this? A military secret.

[Alex66]

It seems to me that everything that has been happening since 2019, when Russia forced its citizens to undergo experimental vaccination, is happening according to some plan. Russia and Ukraine did not fulfill the VOZ plan for vaccination, received SVO, if we add to this the news about food from insects, the destruction of animals and birds on farms due to infections, then it is clear who on Earth thought there were too many people. So maybe the golden billion is not a fiction, but a plan that is being carried out by all officials in the world.

[Vladimir80]

Since 2019, when Russia forced its citizens to undergo experimental vaccination, it has been happening according to some plan.

Well, yes, only from 2021.

did not fulfill the VOZ plan for vaccination, received a SVO

the plan for injections was exceeded, and the war is rather the next task from the “puppeteers”

It’s clear that there were too many people on Earth

this is no secret at all - most representatives of the Western elites are drowned for this

maybe the golden billion is not a fiction, but a plan

not quite so in my opinion - rather, what is needed is not a “golden billion”, but a digital concentration camp within the planet

[former soldier]

Harmful article. For what?
ps Not all volunteer requests are satisfied.

[Knell wardenheart]

Whether it will be or not - the first stages of our summer campaign, which in the West is considered very likely, will show, or contractual activity that will either develop (by summer and in the summer) or will be completely torpedoed until the fall.
The time for preliminary mobilization was missed because those mobilized will not get into this summer campaign purely due to the time frame (I mean large mobilization) of training and coordination.

So for the summer-autumn period if mobilization will be due to increased NATO activity OR as a compensatory measure. All this will be based on certain events that actually take place, i.e. it will be a reactive mobilization.

[Glagol1]

I agree with the author that the Korean scenario is likely. It might look like this: Trump is elected, puts forward a truce initiative, negotiations begin, and observation missions are deployed across the LBS. Then a certain document on a long-term ceasefire, 1/10 of the sanctions are lifted, from among those that are especially harmful to the sanctions makers themselves. Next is some kind of international conference, the preparation of which will not be easy and will take a long time.

[BorzRio]

Many authors on VO constantly refer to some GLOBAL players. But there are no specifics. Some forces in the world dictate to politicians and entire countries what is and is not possible. The fate of billions is decided over a Cuban cigar in some secret luxury castle. Maybe enough fairy tales? Who are they? Specifically. Otherwise, such articles are just another cartoon from Mosfilm.

[Sanktperburg1812]

We waited for the presidential elections. What else are we waiting for now for the US presidential elections? Wow, what an intrigue...

[Victor Leningradets]

Quote: Vladimir80

to pile on in numbers is just to spin this meat grinder faster in the image of Verdun and Stokhod.

+1000!!!! and why then mobilization???

Everything complex is simple if you break it down into its components.
If you use a weapon that clearly interrupts the enemy’s communications, then you must then organize a breakthrough in the selected directions. This requires shock units and overwhelming fire superiority. These units are present along the front. The gaps between the shock units should be filled with troops not of a shock type, but of a positional orientation. We don't have enough of these troops. To successfully advance deeper into the territory temporarily occupied by Ukrainian nationalists, it is necessary to drop troops and capture strategically important infrastructure facilities. We have these troops, but they are all pinned down on the line of combat contact. To carry out occupation activities and regulate the movement of huge masses of refugees, a multiple increase in the continent of the Russian Guard is necessary.
The main thing is that when carrying out mobilization activities, the units being formed must be armed and trained in accordance with the nature of their use in modern conditions.
A separate issue is ensuring logistics and organizing the rear. Here, the use of mobilized pensioners will ensure uninterrupted supply and mobility. In addition, this will free up a significant contingent to replenish troops on the line of combat contact.
Well, the key issue is weapons. All troops in one way or another in contact with the enemy must be sufficiently armed, trained and undergo combat coordination.

[border]

Moscow. 20 September. INTERFAX.RU - Concerns about the introduction of mobilization are unfounded; there will be no general mobilization, said Andrei Kartapolov, Chairman of the State Duma Committee on Defense.

“They are absolutely unjustified. There will be no general mobilization,” Kartapolov said in an interview with Parliamentary Gazeta on Tuesday, answering the question of how justified are the fears that the amendments to the Criminal Code on liability for desertion and looting adopted by the State Duma on Tuesday are aimed at preparing a general mobilization .On September 21, 2022, by decree of the President of the Russian Federation, partial mobilization was announced in the country.

"Law" does not equal "mobilization". It is not adopted specifically for a special military operation, it is adopted to be carried out for a long time. At least until the time comes when the need for it disappears,” Kartapolov explained.
on September 21 In 2022, by decree of the President of the Russian Federation, partial mobilization was announced in the country. So you have to think with your own head. This is the job of deputies. Calm, encourage, and if necessary, quickly and unanimously pass the law

[Glagol1]

Deputies, especially from United Russia, have long turned from representatives of the people into puppets of the authorities. You can't trust anyone. They make laws indiscriminately, as the authorities please. Don't care about people.

[Julian_B]

It’s a strange statement that mobilization will not change anything under conditions of “deadlock.” There is no use of nuclear weapons here. But there seem to be weapons and ammunition, which they are currently fighting with, and if we constantly disturb the enemy at many points, this will lead to irreparable losses if we have a majority. I'm not a military man, I don't know anything about weapons. As for the economy, they say the economy will stagnate. Walk around St. Petersburg or Moscow, every 30 meters there is an alcohol bar or a coffee shop, a bunch of bicycle couriers, for those who cannot take three steps, without them the economy will collapse or what? I think 200-500 thousand can only be collected from St. Petersburg and Moscow, and the economy (or rather production) will not lose anything from this if approached correctly.

[spektr9]

There is no use of nuclear weapons here. But there seem to be weapons and ammunition that they are currently fighting with, and if we constantly disturb the enemy at many points, this will lead to his irreparable losses if we have a majority

Only an attempt to overwhelm the enemy with meat, instead of using tactical nuclear weapons, will lead to a repeat of the summer of 23....

[Rostislav]

They are again starting to discuss the topic of negotiations with Bandera.
Any negotiations mean leaving part of Ukraine under the rule of neo-Nazis, which automatically means NATO bases and the preservation of a hotbed of hatred close to Russia. And sooner or later this boil will burst, filling everything with pus.
You can’t negotiate, the neo-Nazi abscess needs to be opened.

[Zaplatkin]

Damn, why doesn’t anyone write what could be the reason, I don’t know. Rotation of those mobilized in 2022 for example? Everyone seems to forget that people have been behind the tape for a year and a half. Some were on vacation only 2 times. Contract workers go to the Northern Military District zone for 3 months, sometimes more, of course, and then return to their family. Until recently, former convicts generally left home after half a year or a year. People are very tired when some Kartopolov declares that those mobilized will serve until the end of the Northern Military District of which there is no end in sight, this is generally a seam.

[hermit]

The author serves in the General Staff and knows all the military plans.

[miry_mir]

Yes, it seems there are people who want to go to the front. And even from those same law enforcement agencies, people quit and go there, even in the localities there is a shortage of personnel, because they pay more and there is no stupid writing. Although, of course, at first they think that it is easier there, but there is no turning back. And there are even some who immediately retire and go there. There are people who are willing, and if there is no real threat from NATO yet (and the main one, I think, knows more than us on the topic), we will not have mobilization yet.

[the same doctor]

Mobilization is needed in order not to spend Nabiulina’s billions on the production of weapons and ammunition. Now the front receives the same shells, if we calculate according to WWII standards, for an offensive on a front of 10 km. The rest - you have to fight with Kalash and bayonets.
.
Mobilization must begin with mobilizing the reserves of the Central Bank and the Government, and only then pulling people.
.
There is an idea for a cheap battlefield weapon that will allow our soldiers to destroy the enemy not in hand-to-hand combat and machine gun attacks, but from a distance of 0,5-1 km.

[Vladimir80]

we must start with the mobilization of Central Bank reserves

The Central Bank is not ours, they will answer that they are here for other purposes...

There is an idea for a cheap battlefield weapon that will allow our soldiers to destroy the enemy not in hand-to-hand combat and machine gun attacks, but from a distance of 0,5-1 km.

??

[the same doctor]

While the fighting is going on, money should be invested not in yuan, but in shells. Whoever is against it wants our children to die at the front. No Jesuitical distortions like “The Central Bank is not ours” and “the militarization of the economy cannot be allowed” are accepted here. If you have extra money, give me some shells!

[Aleksandr_85]

There is an idea for a cheap battlefield weapon that will allow our soldiers to destroy the enemy not in hand-to-hand combat and machine gun attacks, but from a distance of 0,5-1 km.

?????? belay

I'm reminded of the megaphone and Monty Python's "The Funniest Joke in the World."

[Foul skeptic]

There is an idea for a cheap battlefield weapon that will allow our soldiers to destroy the enemy not in hand-to-hand combat and machine gun attacks, but from a distance of 0,5-1 km.

And what is this? Or a secret?

[the same doctor]

the idea is simple. I think there are many such ideas among people. But I’m afraid that the West and the hijacking of these weapons will kill our grandchildren at the front... And our bosses will never give these weapons to the front. That’s why I’ve been silent for twenty years, probably.

[Foul skeptic]

But our bosses will never give these weapons to the front. That’s why I’ve been silent for twenty years, probably.

So how will they find out about these weapons if you are silent?

the idea is simple. I think there are many such ideas among people.

Well, that means it’s not that simple, since it’s still not used.
Maybe it's just not feasible?

[the same doctor]

Without money and resources it is definitely not feasible. We need to give money and try.
.
But I’m silent because I have nowhere to give it. I have already given away a lot of things, but such things cannot be published. Only in good hands.

[Mint Gingerbread]

I think mobilization is possible only under one condition, if NATO countries take direct part in the conflict, with the involvement of a large group of troops and the entire range of weapons.
Now the need is not observed due to the approach, slow pressure. It’s a matter of time before the front collapses, including on the political front. It may happen that everything will be decided in the offices, and Ukraine will be crushed from all sides, including pressure from the US and the EU, forcing it to agree to all demands. The chance of this is less than that of a forceful outcome, but it exists.

[Vladimir80]

It may happen that everything will be decided in the offices, and Ukraine will be crushed from all sides, including pressure from the US and the EU, forcing agreement with all the requirements.

those. Do you assume that the Kyiv authorities have agency??? (like they are independent)

[Mint Gingerbread]

including US and EU pressure

Isn't it clear here?

[bone1]

What is the point of arguing about nothing? - they will tell you - the author

[deathtiny]

Quote: Boris Sergeev

and the truce with Ukraine cannot be turned from defeat into victory by any propaganda

really? )
They will also explain that this is a brilliant victory for the Russian army and Russian mercy and humanity! )
that they “demilitarized”, because everything that was at the beginning of the North Military District was destroyed, “denazification”... well, they will add some clause to the agreement about the condemnation of Nazism, and that then they will not comply with it - that’s later...
Donetsk and Lugansk are ours, the territories of the new regions will be united into “Novorossiya” with the actual borders determined - and again - everything is in order with the Constitution too...

will hold a concert on Red Square and a million-strong rally of the “popular front” and “new pioneers”...

and that's it, victory! )

[BIABIA]

Quote: Single-n

Based on mobilization.

But no one canceled it for us. At least right now anyone will receive a summons and that’s it, go ahead.

[RusGr]

If we fight even more intensely and take large cities, then mobilization is needed. But where can I get so much equipment, weapons, and shells? And how many people do you need, 300-500-700 thousand?

[Rinat Khametov]

Why take cities? Have you forgotten what the Germans did? First, the encirclement, and after clearing the troops, the entrance to the city....
Where urban battles began, a multiple advantage in logistics was required

[fsvlad]

Not "mobilization", but "partial mobilization". Therefore, IMHO, there is no one to take into the second wave. Those who have been wanting to be there for a long time, those involved in the defense industry have a reservation, and those who are cunning (from artists to bankers) have a deferment. Well, people who do not have official employment and do not live at the place of registration still need to be caught :)

[Rinat Khametov]

Why catch them? Crowds of Tajiks are running around... I don’t want to catch them.
And under the machine guns of the barrage detachments, everyone will go on the attack just fine.

[Soul of Russia87]

Forget about the Tajiks, they now have an indefinite reservation from mobilization.

[running Man]

For now, it looks like the military conflict in Ukraine is moving towards the “Korean Scenario” – a world without a peace agreement. This scenario for ending the conflict seems to be the most likely at the moment.

Childish naivety...

[Rinat Khametov]

I play WoT tanks... And I like to tease players that they are sitting in the bushes, that they will soon go to the front, in the month of May, but in real life they will not let you sit under a bush.
Immediately the questions begin, where did you get such nonsense from... There were no exclamations that I personally would not go

[Rage66]

Is there life on Mars, is there no life on Mars - this is unknown to science...
Science is not yet in the know

[Soul of Russia87]

I don’t even want to hear about any mobilization until the president and commander in chief declare war on Ukraine, martial law, general mobilization, nationalization of the economy and the military-industrial complex, closing the border, etc., etc. On what basis? And on this one.

Federal Law of May 31, 1996 N 61-FZ “On Defense” (as amended and supplemented)

Section V. State of war. Martial law. Mobilization. Civil defense. Territorial defense. Volunteer formations (Art. 18-22.1)

Article 18. State of war

1. A state of war is declared by federal law in the event armed attack on the Russian Federation by another state or a group of states, as well as if it is necessary to implement international treaties of the Russian Federation.

2. From the moment the state of war is declared or the actual start of hostilities wartime is coming, which expires from the moment the cessation of hostilities is announced, but not earlier than their actual cessation.

I think there are no crazy people here who believe that the Ukrainian Armed Forces have not committed and are not committing an armed attack on the Russian Federation.

[Maxim]

military coop in his repertoire. Apparently Romanov’s fate didn’t teach Murza anything?

[storm]

In Russia there are 2 million 400 thousand officials and 2 million 600 thousand retired security forces; this reserve will easily allow mobilizing up to a million people without exposing industry and agriculture.
These people exist at the expense of the state, receive apartments, salaries, benefits, pensions, so let them serve the state.
At all times, the sovereign’s servicemen were the first to go to war, and only then, if necessary, they gathered the people’s militia, but in modern Russia it’s the other way around, 300 thousand hard working men were mobilized, while the bureaucrats and security forces sit at home...

[BAI]

All kinds of security agencies have forgotten

[BAI]

All kinds of security agencies have forgotten

[north41]

I advise supporters of mobilization and other misanthropic nonsense to go to some hospital and look at the seriously wounded soldiers. Well, and for especially difficult modern combat operations, it’s not about overwhelming the enemy with meat, but surpassing the enemy in technical and tactical terms in the first place. Someone wrote here about creating an army of drones and robots, you can laugh at these words from the world of science fiction. But when your son or husband, God forbid, does not return, and everyone else around doesn’t really care, you will remember them.

[BAI]

The official authorities deny these rumors in every possible way.

1. If the authorities deny something, it means it is inevitable.
2. The current numbers are not enough to carry out the offensive.
3. A trained reserve is needed in case of a direct clash with NATO.
Conclusion - 90% mobilization will be
But we don’t have the equipment to arm them

[kig]

In my opinion, everything is clear here: if an offensive is planned, then there will be mobilization.

[Dozorny severa]

“Some experts also talk about this, for example blogger-analyst Yuri Baranchik.”
Well, .. - blogger-analyst Baranchik, and before that Baranets was an augur - I don’t have any other analysts for you.
What kind of analysts and analytics.

[Julian_B]

Fewer bars, restaurants, caffeine, bicycle couriers for pizzas and sushi, managers. Our economy is set up to fight boredom and satisfy rich lazy people, and not to win the war. You can easily get 200-500 thousand without problems for the economy in Moscow and St. Petersburg alone. Workers in production and agriculture, of course, do not need to be touched for this.

[Alexfly]

What needs to be trained is not 200-300 thousand soldiers, but the entire population of the country, capable of taking arms, so that within a few days or weeks they can get into formation to protect the interests and viability of the Motherland, and not with the hating speeches of politicians... But is this necessary for the country’s elite? have a responsible person with a gun at your side...