The inglorious end of the western campaign of the tumens Subedei and Jebe

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The inglorious end of the western campaign of the tumens Subedei and Jebe
"The Mongol army on the march." Illustration from the magazine "New Soldier"


Earlier we talked about the Western campaign of the Tumen Subedei and Jebe, who first looked for the Khorezmshah Muhammad II, and then, bypassing the Caspian Sea from the south, defeated the Georgian army of King George IV, then the Lezgins, Alans, and Kipchaks. Finally, near the Kalka River they defeated the united Russian-Polovtsian troops. It was time to go back.



After Kalka


So, having won a convincing victory at Kalka, the Mongols did not attack the Russian principalities, but moved east - to the newly organized ulus of Jochi by Genghis Khan. But then they suddenly abruptly changed their route, moving north – to the lands of the Bulgars. The one mentioned in the book acted as a guide and advisor. previous article former Vali of the Bulgarian city of Hina Ablas.


Map of the campaign of Subedei and Jebe

But why did the Mongols decide to make such a detour on their way home? Did Subedei and Jebe (if he did not die at Kalki and was still alive) on their own initiative decide to also destroy Volga Bulgaria - a very strong and by no means defenseless state, on the coat of arms of which was the image of a leopard with a raised paw?


Bulgarian leopard on the garden cover of the “Big Outfit”. Fabric, pearls, gold and silk threads of the 17th century.

By the way, please note that the coat of arms of modern Kazan features the winged serpent Zilant, but the Kazan hockey club is called “White Leopard” (“Ak Bars”). And on the coat of arms of Tatarstan there is something in between: a leopard, but with wings.


Kazan coat of arms, approved by Catherine II


Coat of arms of Tatarstan

It is unlikely that the Mongol military leaders simply wanted to confirm their status as excellent commanders by defeating the army of another state. Some researchers have suggested that the Mongols were forced to turn north by the Saksins, who wandered between Itil and Zhaiyk (Volga and Ural), who set fire to the grass in the steppe. But the Mongols could not find out about this before they reached the lower reaches of the Volga.

There is a very reliable version according to which, after the victory at Kalka, the returning Mongol troops finally managed to establish contact with Genghis Khan’s headquarters and received a new order - this time to act against the Bulgars in alliance with the army of the conqueror’s eldest son, Jochi. Allegedly, this is precisely why they then suddenly sharply reduced the speed of their movement: they could have approached the Bulgar lands in the middle of summer, but they ended up there only at the end of 1223 or even at the beginning of 1224: perhaps they were expecting reinforcements sent to them by Jochi, or his strike along the rear of Volga Bulgaria? However, Jochi violated his father’s order, putting the Mongol expeditionary force in a very difficult situation - and was so afraid of his anger that in the same 1224 he refused to appear at the Kurultai - apparently, he did not expect anything good from the meeting.

Relations between Chinggis and Jochi were always somewhat cool, since the latter’s real father was probably a Merkit, whose wife or concubine was the conqueror’s beloved wife, Borte, during her captivity. The “Secret History of the Mongols” directly states that Jochi could have been born from Chilgir-Boko, the younger brother of the Merkit leader Chiledu, whose father Temujin Yesugei, with the help of two brothers, once recaptured his bride, Hoelun (she became his first wife and gave birth to 5 children , including the future “Shaker of the Universe”). Borte's kidnapping was revenge for that long-standing grudge. And Temujin fled during the Merkit raid, abandoning not only his wife, but also his mother and brothers to the mercy of fate. The first-born Borte was born shortly after her liberation (in 1218) and received a name, one of the translations of which is “Guest”. It is known that the second son of Temujin and Borte, Chagatai, openly reproached his older brother for his Merkit origin. And therefore, some researchers propose to call the descendants of Jochi not Chingizids, but Jochids. The Jochids, by the way, were divided into two “branches”: the elder, whose representatives were Batu and Berke, and the younger.


Aware of his guilt, Genghis recognized Jochi as his son, but his first-born reminded him of the shame he had experienced. And therefore, he allocated to him the devastated Khorezm, the sparsely populated steppe on the territory of present-day Kazakhstan, the lower Volga region and the still unconquered lands of the West as an ulus. Subsequently, three hordes arose in this territory: the White Horde on the Irtysh, which ceased to exist by the 14th century, the Blue Horde, which occupied the territories from Tyumen to Mangyshlak, and the Golden (or Great) Horde on the Volga. The conquered peoples lived on the lands of the Golden Horde: the Kama Bulgars, Bashkirs, Mordovians, Cheremis, Chuvashs; the northeastern Russian principalities were considered its uluses.

But let's return to Jochi and his reluctance to go to the aid of Subedei and Jebe. Some believe that he was at enmity with them and therefore wanted them to die. And others believe that the first-born of Genghis was a principled opponent of his father, who did not love him, and argue that Jochi did not want to fight, but to develop the lands that he inherited. The 13th century Persian historian Al-Juzjani wrote:

“When Tushi (Juchi) saw the air and water of the Kipchak land, he found that in the whole world there could not be land more pleasant than this, air better than this, water sweeter than this, meadows and pastures more extensive than these.”


Jochi on a miniature of the handwritten book “Baysungur albumu”, XIV-XV centuries.

Rashid ad-Din in the “Collection of Chronicles” also says that Jochi violated the order of Genghis by avoiding assistance to the corps of Subedei and Jebe, and then from a punitive expedition against the Bulgars.

Genghis Khan ordered him:

“Go to the lands where Subudai-bagatur and Jebe-noyon visited, occupy all the winter and summer quarters. Destroy the Bulgars and Polovtsians."

Jochi didn’t even answer his father. As a result, Genghis Khan began planning a campaign against Jochi; preparations for it were stopped after the death of his rebellious son.

Ad-Juzjani, quoted above, states that he was in opposition to his father Jochi even during the conquest of Khorezm:

“Tushi (Juchi) said to his entourage:

“Genghis Khan has gone mad that he is destroying so many people and destroying so many kingdoms. It seems to me that the most expedient thing is to kill my father while hunting, get closer to Sultan Muhammad, bring this state to a flourishing state and provide assistance to Muslims.”

His brother Chagatai found out about such a plan and informed his father about this treasonous plan and his brother’s intention. Having found out, Genghis Khan sent his proxies to poison and kill Tushi.”

But Rashid ad-Din claimed that Jochi, who was only about 40 years old, died of some kind of illness. According to the "Genealogy of the Turks", this happened 6 months before the death of Genghis Khan - in 1227. And Jamal al-Karshi claims that this happened 2 years earlier:

“Tushi died before his father - in 622 (1225).”

In 1946, Soviet archaeologists explored the mausoleum in the Alatau Mountains - it was here, according to legend, that Jochi was buried.


The alleged mausoleum of Juchi Khan is a 13th-century architectural monument located in the Ulytau district of the Karaganda region at 50 km northeast of Zhezkazgan

A male skeleton without a right hand and with a severed skull was discovered in the mausoleum. If this body really belongs to Jochi, we can conclude that Genghis Khan’s envoys decided to use blades rather than poison, and the rebellious son of the conqueror clearly resisted. However, there is a version that Jochi died after falling from a horse while hunting kulans (they look like donkeys, but have common features with horses). Sometimes these two versions are combined and they say that during this hunt the killers overtook the eldest son of Genghis Khan.

Defeat of the Mongol corps in Volga Bulgaria



I. Murtazin. Broken Spear

So, without waiting for help from Jochi, the tumens Subedei and Dzhebe nevertheless moved towards Volga Bulgaria. Their guide was the former wali (governor) of the city, Hina Ablas, who for some reason ended up in one of the cities captured by the Mongols on their way to the West, joined them and even, according to some sources, negotiated with the Russian princes near Kalka. Some historians believe that Ablas could play a “double game” and warn his compatriots in advance. However, there was no particular need for such a warning: everyone around had already heard about the Mongols, and they had long been at the southern borders of the Bulgarian state - although no one stopped them from returning to Genghis Khan. Volga Bulgaria was a strong trading power that controlled the routes along the Volga and Kama. The allies of the Bulgars were the Mordovian tribes of the so-called Purgas Rus', located on the Moksha River; Russian settlers also lived in this territory. The Mordovians called their country Erzyan Mastor, but it was not united: the northern wooded part was then controlled by Prince Purgas, who was oriented towards Bulgaria, and the southern part, where there were few forests, was under the rule of Prince Puresh, who maintained good relations with the nomads, and these rulers were at enmity with each other.

In "Complete Code of General stories"Ibn al-Athir reports that in 620 AH. (04.02.1223/23.01.1224/XNUMX–XNUMX/XNUMX/XNUMX), having learned about the approach of the Mongols, the Bulgars

“They set up ambushes in several places... attacked them from the rear, so that they remained in the middle, the sword struck them from all sides, many of them were killed and only a few of them survived. They say there were 4000 of them. They went to Saksin, returning to their king Genghis Khan, and the land of the Kipchaks was freed from them.”

Professor of Kazan University, Doctor of Historical Sciences A. Kh. Khalikov calls Ilgam Khan the commander of the Bulgar army, and the site of the battle with the Mongols is the Samara Luka region. However, some believe that it could have passed near the Zolotarevsky settlement, discovered by F. F. Chekalin in 1882 and explored in 1998-2000. historian and archaeologist G. N. Belorybkin.

The terrain on Samarskaya Luka really seems favorable for organizing an ambush: there are floodplain swamps, groves and ravines that would greatly limit the attacking side’s ability to maneuver. At the same time, in other places convenient for crossings, the Bulgars set up abatis: when trying to overcome one of them, the Mongols suffered serious losses in a firefight with well-hidden enemy archers. At the only possible crossing point, carts were placed that were poorly visible in the thick grass, and between them stood kavesi - warriors armed with large (one-third the height) bows: their iron arrows could pierce the armor of heavy Mongol cavalry. The archers were covered by Bulgar spearmen - professional warriors, like the warriors of Russian princes, and militias of vassal tribes. Heavily armed horsemen - chirmysh - were waiting in the wings, who were supposed to fight the Mongols in an open field.


Warriors of Volga Bulgaria in a drawing by Sam Embleton and Jerry Embleton


Bulgarian horsemen in the painting by I. Murtazin

The Mongols had no way out, and Uran-Kytai, another son of Subedei (the other, as we remember, was killed as part of the first embassy before the Battle of Kalka) received an order to cross the Volga.


Mongolian cavalry attack, medieval miniature

Bulgar archers attacked the Mongols on the other side - behind the forest, then the heavy cavalry struck. This attack was repulsed, but the Mongols literally ran into a “Wagenburg” of carts with foot soldiers protecting them. Uran-Kytai sent a messenger to his father asking for help, and about 7 thousand Mongols, led by Subedei himself, crossed to the enemy shore. Having received reinforcements, Uran-Kytai still managed to break through the first line of defense (or the Bulgars deliberately let him through) - and saw the second line in front of him, on a neighboring field. The Mongols again came under fire and were then overwhelmed by a Bulgar cavalry attack.


R. Zagidullin. Battle of the Bulgars with the Mongols

Unable to help, Subedei was forced to cross to “his” shore.” Almost all the Mongols on the Bulgarian coast were killed or captured - including the son of Subedei. According to legend, the ransom for them was paid in sheep - and therefore this battle was called the “Battle of the Sheep.”

By the way, later, under the Romanovs, instead of a leopard, a lamb with a banner suddenly appeared on the Bulgarian coat of arms, but many believe that this was not connected with the long-standing victory on the Volga, and the new image appeared by mistake - perhaps the “weak-eyed” redrawer did not make out small details and instead of a warlike leopard, he drew an ancient Christian symbol known to him.


Let's go back to 1223 (or 1224) and see that Subedei was then seriously wounded - he lost an eye and was wounded in the leg, the consequence of which was severe lameness, since then the Mongols began to call him "leopard with a severed paw" Many believe that it was then that Jebe died. Only 4 thousand soldiers broke through to Desht-i-Kipchak.

Return of the tumens Subedei and Jebe


How should Genghis Khan meet Subedei? Let's try to look at the situation through the eyes of this khan. So, two military leaders at the head of 20 thousand selected horsemen (not some steppe rabble, but the hitherto invincible warriors Onon and Kerulen) were sent by him to search for the head of a hostile state, but did not find him, and missed the new one. And Jalal ad-Din returned in 1224, already in 1225 he captured Fars, Eastern Iraq, Azerbaijan, defeated Georgia and burned Tbilisi, defeated the Mongols at Isfahan. It was possible to cope with it only after the death of Genghis Khan - in 1229 under the new great khan Ogedei. And Subedei and Jebe disappeared for three years: they fought with someone, won, in general, fruitless and meaningless victories, demonstrating to potential opponents the capabilities of the Mongol army. And then their army suffered a humiliating defeat, being thrown into battle in the most unfavorable conditions. The experienced and loyal Jebe died, either somewhere near Kalka, or in a battle with the Bulgars. However, Subedei escaped punishment, but relations between Genghis Khan and his eldest son Jochi, who refused to send troops to support the returning Temniks, deteriorated sharply. Apparently, it was he who was considered by the great conqueror to be the main culprit of the defeat. According to Ad-Juzjani, it all ended (as we have already noted) with the order of Genghis Khan “poison and kill Carcass».

But perhaps the defeat of the Mongols in Bulgaria was not so devastating. “Yuan-shi” reports that after the clash with the Bulgars, the Mongols managed to defeat the Kangls, whose tribes roamed from the Urals to the Aral Sea. Or was the Kangle detachment completely insignificant?

In the next article we will talk a little about the fate of Volga Bulgaria.
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  1. +11
    April 15 2024 05: 35
    Thank you Valery!
    Two tumens in an operational search, separated from the main forces, for three years - this causes both distrust and admiration. However, history says it happened, and from almost a dozen direct and indirect sources.
    Good morning everyone, with respect to Kote!
    1. -8
      April 15 2024 08: 02
      modern pictures and false pictures, such as real ones, but instead of worthless propaganda, it would be better to have some kind of scientific study of the primary sources themselves. But you can invent lies endlessly.
      1. -15
        April 15 2024 08: 22


        Let's listen to Pyzhikov and Klyosov on this matter.
      2. +6
        April 15 2024 11: 30
        modern pictures and false pictures,

        Essentially, before waving a “broom”, you need to distinguish between an artistic painting and a historical reconstruction, otherwise a little more and you and Pyzhikov will rush to expose Vasnetsov with his “The Gray Wolf Saves Vasilisa the Beautiful”! It’s a win-win option... by the way, knowing the history of writing the Three Bogatyrs, you obviously understand that this is not a reconstruction, but an artistic work. Despite the fact that it was written from life and real weapons and armor were used, including those from the Kremlin’s storerooms.
        Regarding the reconstruction. Several years ago, Eduard Vashchenko presented his own handiwork to his articles for the reader to judge. During the discussion, he explained why he used this or that weapon and attire. Very convincing and with reference to archaeological sources.
        It’s trivial, you need to understand this, to pull an owl onto a globe,
        1. -5
          April 15 2024 16: 04
          Quote: Kote pane Kohanka
          Essentially, before waving a “broom”, it is necessary to distinguish between an artistic painting and a historical reconstruction,


          Why the hell is a FALSE reconstruction needed?
          The main question in this Mongol theory is what kind of people were the Mongols? And the answer is this: they were not Mongoloid people, not Asian. Then which one? Well, if Genghis Khan was red-haired with blue eyes, and his wife was a beautiful blonde, Hiu Chen, then your gishtoria with all the freaks of gishtorik is lying.
          1. +2
            April 15 2024 16: 39
            The main question in this Mongol theory is what kind of people were the Mongols?

            This is a question for lovers of alternatives. Historians do not have this question. Because this term refers to the Mongol tribes of that time.

            Likewise, historians have no questions, for example, about the term Austria-Hungary. The inhabitants of ancient Novgorod also did not call their state a “republic,” but historians have the term “Novgorod Republic” and there are no questions about it either.
            All historians understand what these terms mean. But you can persistently prove that there never were Austro-Hungarians, there was never a Novgorod Republic, and at the same time there was no Turovo-Pinsk principality if such a term comes across to you and raises questions.
            This is all akin to nit-picking like “Old Russian people never called versts kilometers, which means historians are all lying.”

            Rashid al-Din. COLLECTION OF CHRONICLES. JAMI AT-TAVARIKH.
            SECTION TWO
            CONCERNING THOSE TURKIC TRIBES WHO ARE NOW CALLED MONGOLS, BUT IN ANCIENT TIMES, EACH OF THESE TRIBES INDIVIDUALLY HAD ITS SPECIAL NICKNAME AND NAME; EACH HAD ITS OWN CHIEF AND EMIR; FROM EACH CAME FROM FAMILY BRANCHES AND TRIBES, LIKE PEOPLES: JALAIRS, OIRATS, TATARS AND OTHERS.
            Their dwellings and camps were in certain places. Their appearance and language are similar to the appearance and language of the Mongols, because at that ancient time the Mongols were a people belonging to the Turkic tribes; at present, due to their happiness, power and greatness, all other tribes are called by this special name of theirs.

            In my opinion, Rashid al-Din explained everything more clearly
            1. -1
              April 15 2024 18: 21
              Quote: Redoubt
              This is all akin to nit-picking like “Old Russian people never called versts kilometers, which means historians are all lying.”


              you don't know metrology well
              The Kolomenskaya verst is a mile at the latitude of the town of Kolomno, so this verst was almost a kilometer there.

              The fact that the Mongols belonged to the Turkic tribes is very possible, but in this case we are not talking about language, but about genetics, were they white or yellow narrow-eyed people?
              The Cossacks also babbled at times in Tatar - Tolstoy’s Sevastopol Stories, but they did not cease to be Slavs because of this.
              So your “explanation” makes no sense.
              1. +2
                April 15 2024 22: 29
                Quote: Trinitrotoluene
                The Kolomenskaya verst is a mile at the latitude of the town of Kolomno, so this verst was almost a kilometer there.

                Where do these fantasies come from in your head!? Can I have the original source?
                So the miles are different, but the mile is not tied to latitude at all. And the Kolomna mile is connected not with Kolomno, not even with Kolomna initially, but with the royal estate - the village of Kolomenskoye. Or will you argue that the highest milestones should be on the royal road? So whip the slave! laughing

                Quote: Trinitrotoluene
                The fact that the Mongols belonged to the Turkic tribes is very possible, but in this case we are not talking about language, but about genetics, were they white or yellow narrow-eyed people?

                So white narrow-eyed or yellow narrow-eyed? Turks or Mongols? You will decide.

                But in reality - what does this change? Well, even if those Mongols were white Caucasians, how does this cancel the Mongol invasion? In which, under the leadership of the Mongols, many other peoples took part?
                1. -1
                  April 16 2024 00: 43
                  Quote: bot.su
                  Where do these fantasies come from in your head!? Can I have the original source?
                  So there are different miles, but the mile is not tied to latitude at all. And the Kolomna mile


                  what can I say? Darkness, American training?

                  -1 mile -1 minute at a given latitude
                  -Kolomno village, on the M10 highway

                  Quote: bot.su
                  What about white narrow-eyed or yellow narrow-eyed? Turks or Mongols? You will decide.


                  for that matter, you definitely don’t care here.
                  1. +3
                    April 16 2024 16: 47
                    Quote: Trinitrotoluene
                    what can I say? Darkness, American training?

                    -1 mile -1 minute at a given latitude
                    -Kolomno village, on the M10 highway

                    Normal Soviet and Russian training.
                    If a mile were equal to one minute at a given latitude, it would not make sense, since the closer to the pole, the smaller the arc minute in latitude. Therefore, a nautical mile is 1 arc minute along the meridian, a geographical mile is 1 arc minute along the equator. The remaining miles are tied to the steps of the Roman legionaries...

                    I don’t care what highway Kolomno is on. The Kolomenskaya verst is connected with the mileposts to the village of Kolomenskoye, which were much higher than the others laughing
                    Kolomna verst is not connected with the M10 highway, since the expression arose long before the founding of St. Petersburg.
                    Quote: Trinitrotoluene
                    for that matter, you definitely don’t care here.

                    I know exactly which group the Mongols belong to and what they look like. I’ve even been to Mongolia. And a little in Buryatia.
                    1. -1
                      April 16 2024 17: 48
                      Quote: bot.su
                      normal Soviet and Russian training.
                      If a mile were equal to one minute at a given latitude, it would not make sense, since the closer to the pole, the smaller the arc minute in latitude. Therefore, a nautical mile is 1 arc minute along the meridian, a geographical mile is 1 arc minute along the equator. The remaining miles are tied to the steps of the Roman legionaries...


                      What kind of mental tension, are your brains not boiling normally?

                      And the fact that there are different miles, of course they don’t teach that in American schools?
                      There is a German mile, a Roman mile, a nautical mile, a Norwegian mile, and so on, and all these miles are tied to THEIR LATITUDE. There are even different inches
                      -2.5cm
                      -4.4cm
                      Quote: bot.su
                      Therefore, a nautical mile is 1 arc minute along the meridian, a geographical mile is 1 arc minute along the equator.

                      Thank God I thought to look it up on Wikipedia.

                      Quote: bot.su
                      The remaining miles are tied to the steps of the Roman legionaries...

                      This is how they teach it in American schools.

                      Quote: bot.su

                      I don’t care what highway Kolomno is on. The Kolomenskaya verst is connected with the mileposts to the village of Kolomenskoye, which were much higher than the others


                      no.


                      Quote: bot.su
                      Kolomna Versta is not connected by the M10 highway, since the expression arose long before the founding of St. Petersburg.


                      Moreover, here St. Petersburg and the village of Kolomno are older than St. Petersburg in the Olympic Games.

                      Quote: bot.su
                      I’ve even been to Mongolia. And a little in Buryatia.


                      Have you ever been to Kalmykia?
                      1. +3
                        April 16 2024 20: 14
                        Yes, you are a noble troll! laughing
                        Miles may be different, but they are tied either to the equator (German, French), or to various ancient measures of length - feet, fathoms, elbows, tops and other roots. There is even a Russian mile - 1/7 of the way, beyond which people go to sip jelly - 7 versts.
                        In short, your fantasies are not the rod, but you are a noble little nursery! From “pestun” - a bear that has not gained enough intelligence feel

                        What does Kolomno and the Kolomna verst have to do with it? If a Russian mile is 7 versts, and a verst is 500 fathoms, and a fathom does not depend on the latitude of the area, but depends on mom and dad?

                        No, I haven’t reached Tuva and Kalmykia yet. And to Inner Mongolia too. But everything is ahead...
                      2. -2
                        April 16 2024 21: 01
                        stupidity is incurable, the conversation with you is over.
                      3. +4
                        April 16 2024 21: 05
                        Quote: Trinitrotoluene
                        stupidity is incurable, the conversation with you is over.

                        Delivered to you +.
  2. +4
    April 15 2024 06: 43
    It was a great cycle! hi
  3. +5
    April 15 2024 07: 21
    Kazan hockey club is called “White Leopard” (“Ak Bars”)
    Ak Bars was founded in 1956 under the name "Mashstroy", and since 1958 changed its name to "SK named after Uritsky". From 1990 to 1995 it was called "Itil", and from 1995 it became "AK Bars" and yes, when the club was called Itil emblem club was the winged serpent Zilant. Then Zilant in 1992 became the emblem of FC Rubin; before that, the emblem of FC Rubin was a circle with an image of a rocket built into it. The emblem reflected the club’s affiliation with the Kazan Aviation Association named after Gorbunov
  4. +3
    April 15 2024 09: 33
    If, indeed, they paid the ransom in rams, then they took with them captured flocks of sheep somewhere - and they ate them.
    1. 0
      April 15 2024 16: 46
      This means that they took captured flocks of sheep with them somewhere and ate them.

      or those who bought them drove them.
      Of course, the Mongols did not set out to conquer Rus' or the Bulgars. This was a reconnaissance raid.
  5. +1
    April 15 2024 10: 36
    https://imtw.ru/topic/50079-dzhelal-ad-din-mankburni/page__st__20__p__2085824#entry2085824
    regarding the Battle of Ram - well, very different opinions. For example, this - There is only a single story by the Arab historian Ibn al-Athir, who was two thousand km from the place of probable events and wrote it down according to some rumors of unclear origin ("as they say"© ). But in other medieval sources there is either nothing, or the opposite is stated. In any case, the results of the campaign and subsequent events and facts do not allow us to talk about some kind of defeat of the Mongols in Bulgaria, colorfully described in a modern fairy tale called “Jagfar Tarihi”. :)
    or- But here are sources that would confirm the opposite, i.e. I have not yet found the victory of Subudai and Jebe over the Bulgars. :033:
    And what, she should have been? If almost all sources are silent, then there probably was no significant battle with the Bulgars at all.
    I am sure that the Mongols did not plan the defeat of Bulgaria in 1224, since such a goal was not set, and there was no strength for it. I admit that some vanguard could advance to its borders for the purpose of reconnaissance and possible negotiations, but nothing more. It is possible that this intelligence rallied from the intractable Bulgars, which gave rise to rumors that reached Ibn al-Athir. It is more important here that the corps of Subedei and Jebe returned safely and united with Genghis Khan, bringing with them trophies of war and rich gifts. And "Yuan-shi" reports that along the way they defeated the Kangls who roamed from the Urals to the Aral Sea, and this happened after the probable collision with the Bulgars. And Subedei, somewhere else from the Urals or from the Aral Sea region, sent Genghis Khan a request to form a separate corps from the conquered peoples, to which he received consent. Therefore, the "defeat by the Bulgars" somehow, well, does not at all fit with these events.
  6. +1
    April 15 2024 11: 36
    This is, of course, only an assumption, the Mongols simply could not go through the semi-desert lands to Genghis Khan in the winter, they needed to turn around during the winter so that in the spring, when the semi-desert blossoms and becomes passable for more cavalry, they could rush back home, well, they unsuccessfully decided to get some food from the Bulgars at the moment.
  7. 0
    April 15 2024 11: 56
    I remember back in school in the 70s they asked a historian how it was that two or three tumens went on a campaign and returned the same number. Shrugging her shoulders, she answered uncertainly that the chroniclers themselves probably, as they would say now, used journalistic cliches, plus there was a constant replenishment of the conquered and those who joined, of which there were plenty in all times. I remember how I was struck by its “non-standard” analysis of the numerical characteristics of the Horde detachments in Chivilikhin’s essay “Memory”.
    1. +2
      April 15 2024 12: 15
      Chivilikhin is also a “historian”. His passages about the “impregnable fortress of Kozelsk” alone are worth it. Then Optina Pustyn was restored, many tourists and pilgrims began to travel to Kozelsk, they say that people who read Chivilikhin in Kozelsk publicly fell into a stupor.
      1. +2
        April 16 2024 08: 30
        It’s generally strange to mention Chivilikhin if there’s a serious conversation going on. He actually added that the Novgorodians were really upset when the Mongols turned away and did not go to Novgorod, they say, the Novgorodians were very eager to profit from the loot from the Mongols. He almost tried to classify the Jurgens as Slavs. Today such alternativeists are completely Zen.
    2. +2
      April 18 2024 20: 22
      how come two or three tumens went on a hike and returned the same number.
      It’s very simple: two tumens of the maximum number of personnel available at that moment went on a campaign. 2 tumens of incomplete strength returned. What's so complicated about that?
  8. -6
    April 16 2024 02: 45
    The Russians, Mongols, Bulgars, and subsequently the Tatars never had heavy cavalry.
    1. -2
      April 16 2024 17: 57
      Quote: Maxim G
      The Russians, Mongols, Bulgars, and subsequently the Tatars never had heavy cavalry.

      Big “specialists” are downvoting hi
    2. +2
      April 16 2024 19: 32
      Historical findings suggest otherwise. If by "heavy cavalry" you mean full plate armor from the 15th century, then you are right. The Russians and Mongols of the 13th century did not have full plate armor. Not even in Europe.
      1. 0
        April 16 2024 19: 57
        What does this have to do with the findings?
        The division into heavy and light cavalry implies specialization.
        But she wasn’t there.
        Heavy spear cavalry is a Western European phenomenon. If we talk about the Middle Ages.
        1. +1
          April 16 2024 20: 52
          Quote: Maxim G
          What does this have to do with the findings?
          The division into heavy and light cavalry implies specialization.
          But she wasn’t there.

          Here you need to clarify what time you mean, the Middle Ages are not even a hundred years. Heavy horsemen who used the spear strike in Rus' existed in pre-Mongol and Mongol times. The Mongols, although rarely, were taken to the spear. Yes, ours could shoot with bows and throw a lasso, especially those closer to the steppe. But the basis is the blow of heavy spearmen. It was true that the Mongols had a bad time with spearmen, but they had heavily armed horsemen, and they had their own tactics for close combat, that is, specialization in person.
          Later, of course, things got worse for us with heavy mounted spearmen, but here more economic factors played a role.
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            April 17 2024 02: 01
            There were universal warriors who wielded a spear, a bladed weapon, a chopping weapon, a striking weapon, and a bow.
            Among them were well armored, on good horses, and possessing a full range of weapons.
            And there were those who were not armed, on poorer horses, and with an incomplete complex.

            We will continue to use the spear until the 17th century, as well as armor. If we talk about traditional Russian cavalry, and not about Western-style regiments.
            1. +1
              April 18 2024 11: 11
              Well, try shooting a universal bow in Kuyak up to your knees. I would like to see this :))) In Europe, the crusaders also owned a spear, a sword, a mace and even a crossbow. There was a specialization and there was also armor for this specialization. Practice has shown that Russian wars mainly fought with the Mongols with a spear strike. And Kalka, and Vozha, and the siege of Vladimir and the Kulikovo field. Everywhere the basis is a spear strike.
              1. 0
                April 18 2024 11: 14
                Chain mail and plate armor in Rus' were adapted for archery, as were helmets.
                1. 0
                  April 18 2024 11: 18
                  Helmets of the 12-13th century, plus or minus, performed the same role. The Crusaders had a “Norman” style, while we and the Easterners had conical, dome-shaped, pointed ones. As far as I remember, even in Europe at that time there were no tophelms, much less bascinets. I'm not saying that the warriors did not know how to shoot a bow, but the history of battles shows that Russian wars mainly used the spear strike. And this is not surprising. Sedentary agricultural peoples could never compare with the skill and mass use of bows with nomadic peoples.
                  1. 0
                    April 18 2024 11: 25
                    Closed helmets in Western Europe, initially covering only the front part of the head, appeared in the second half of the 12th century; by the middle of the 13th century, blind helmets were widely used.
                    We won't have a full-face helmet.
                    The history of battles shows that every weapon has its place and time.
                    What does it have to do with the bow and the predominant use of the spear?
                    The Russian warrior wielded a bow, spear, sword, etc.
                    And he used each type of weapon depending on the situation.
              2. 0
                April 20 2024 16: 23
                Well look.
                1. 0
                  April 20 2024 22: 11
                  The video is not bad. Kuyak is like a robe and has very large shoulder pads. You can't shoot a bow in it. The video shows lamellar eastern armor, very similar to what the medieval Japanese and Chinese had. Not surprising though. Shoulder pads designed specifically for archery.
                  1. 0
                    April 21 2024 04: 11
                    The video shows what the soldiers of the Golden Horde fought in.
                    It is clear that the warrior is completely armored.
                    1. 0
                      April 21 2024 17: 21
                      In the video, an archer shoots at a dummy with a helmet. Does this mean that the only armor Russian soldiers had was a helmet? Then it is not surprising that the Mongols won. After all, it turns out from the video that the Mongols were all in lamellar armor, but the Russians didn’t even have chain mail :))))
                      Here's a fairly historically accurate video.
                      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G7tVT-fjxx8&ab_channel=%D0%9C%D1%83%D0%B7%D0%B5%D0%B9-%D0%B7%D0%B0%D0%BF%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%9A%D1%83%D0%BB%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%BE%D0%BF%D0%BE%D0%BB%D0%B5
                      1. 0
                        April 21 2024 19: 24
                        It turns out that you are making statements without basis.
  9. 0
    April 16 2024 08: 27
    Jochi (Juchi or something similar to our ears) seems to be the old Mongolian word for “Unexpected Guest”. Which sounded very insulting and suggestive.
    Regarding the "ram battle". Arab sources somewhere in Persia made a huge fuss about her. Most likely, this is not only an exaggeration, but an outright lie. In the Middle East, the horror of the Mongols was so strong that chroniclers inflated any minor success over the Mongols to universal proportions. They really wanted the Mongols to finally be beaten. Especially if it were done by Muslims. Hence this fairy tale. It seems like there was an attack on the Mongolian convoy. It was very stretched, and they crossed at the Samara bow, where the attack took place. Most likely, it was Mordovians. Southern Mordovians were very warlike at that time and could well have tried to profit from other people’s loot and then hide behind the swamps. The robbery was partially successful, but the Mongols fought back and moved on. That's all.
    1. VLR
      +1
      April 16 2024 15: 42
      It is quite possible that the scale of the battle between the Bulgars and the Mongols is exaggerated, but we must not forget about the difficulty with which the Mongols later conquered Volga Bulgaria. They defeated the Russian principalities in two passes and without any problems. They fought a difficult war with the Bulgars from 1229 to 1336. It is likely that the Bulgars actually defeated the Mongol expeditionary force. Questions can only arise about the true scale of this defeat.
  10. 0
    April 16 2024 17: 01
    Interestingly, this time the article is accompanied by a map on which the Mongols enter Crimea from the north, across the isthmus. And the previous article said that they crossed the Kerch Strait.
    1. VLR
      +1
      April 16 2024 17: 23
      This map is conditional, simply indicating the approximate route of the Mongol corps. I didn’t find another one, and I didn’t really look for it, because I understood that one would cost the other. After all, they are still arguing about which river should be recognized as Kalka. Tumen Subedey and Dzhebe, according to documents, entered Crimea through the Kerch Strait, but came out of it on dry land.
      1. 0
        April 16 2024 17: 47
        Quote: VlR
        Tumens Subedey and Jebe, according to documents, entered Crimea through the Kerch Strait

        According to what documents?
  11. +2
    April 17 2024 00: 44
    In general, I would call this campaign a demonstration performance of the Mongolian army. After which the Russian princes, who, unfortunately, shared the “Big Nest” (it would have been better if it was small, ideally one male heir) and the Volga Bulgars would have to think about it.
    It seems to me that a united Rus' in alliance with the Bulgars could stop the invasion, especially since the blow to the north for the Mongols was secondary, the main one through Khorezm came further to Baghdad and got stuck on the Egyptian Mamluks.
    However, this reconnaissance with two tumens is remarkable in itself.
    Over thousands of kilometers, into unknown lands with different landscapes and reliefs, crushing everyone on the way along the way, it was cool, I must admit. If these were our commanders, they would have composed songs and studied the campaign in school.
    Well, Jochi, a negative character for that story, like the Austrians during Suvorov’s Swiss campaign, for unknown reasons decided to sit on his butt straight, burn those tumens with a blue flame. But they, having received the order, tried to carry it out, although they understood that it was unlikely to crush a strong state. But the reconnaissance role was fulfilled, and Bulgaria was subsequently approached quite seriously.