Our new vector? The Taliban are heading to Kazan

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Our new vector? The Taliban are heading to Kazan


Our Realpolitics


A little about the upcoming event. In May 2024, the economic forum “Russia – Islamic World: KazanForum” will open in Kazan. The event is solid and rich history – suffice it to say that the first forum took place in 2009 and brought together a modest 250 participants. Fifteen years ago, representatives of the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia, the United Arab Emirates, Morocco, Malaysia, Indonesia, Pakistan, Qatar, Lebanon, Bahrain, Sudan, Great Britain, France, Luxembourg, Turkey, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan and Azerbaijan arrived in the capital of Tatarstan. In 2023, the number of guests significantly exceeded 16 thousand people who came from 80 countries around the world. This is about the issue of international isolation of Russia, which the West is striving for.



The Kazan Forum in 2024 would have gone unnoticed by a considerable part of Russians, if not for the words of the Special Representative of the Russian President for Afghanistan, Director of the Second Department of Asia of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs Zamir Kabulov about the possibility of participation of representatives of the Afghan Taliban in it. Once again for reference: the Taliban are recognized as a terrorist movement in Russia and are banned. That is, following the logic, the delegation upon arrival in Kazan should be immediately arrested and convicted under harsh articles of the Criminal Code? But there is no need to rush things - after all, “realpolitik” with a hint of cynicism has not been canceled. Not in Europe, not in the United States, not in Russia. You can soften the rhetoric a little and call the situation political expediency.


This is not the first time the Taliban (banned in the Russian Federation) have appeared in our country. In the summer of 2022, the delegation was noticed at the St. Petersburg Economic Forum - and nothing, no one fainted. By the way, over the past almost two years, no one has tried to exclude Afghan comrades from the lists of terrorists. In this regard, one should not be surprised at the invitation of formal terrorists from Afghanistan to the forum in Kazan in May of this year. If everything moves in the same rhythm, then we cannot exclude the possibility of the Taliban being soon removed from the list of those banned in Russia.

All opponents and moralists should look at the map of Central Asia. Afghanistan, probably the most rebellious and dangerous power on the planet (remember how many armies broke their teeth in this territory), is located very inconveniently for Russia. Now, if he were somewhere near Australia, then we could talk about inhuman terrorists and turn our noses up. Afghanistan borders Iran, Turkmenistan, Uzbekistan, Tajikistan, Pakistan and a little China. All except the Turkmen, Uzbeks and Tajiks can very conditionally independently contain the influence of the Taliban (banned in the Russian Federation). Russia, one way or another, has to establish ties with the neighbors of its own allies, even if they are not the most reliable. The authorities in Afghanistan can quickly escalate the situation in Central Asia to the limit. It is enough to compare the population of Tajikistan (10 million) and the number of Afghans four times larger. Everyone knows perfectly well how the Taliban (banned in the Russian Federation) can fight, and what resources the Americans left them, shamefully abandoning everything in 2021. In the event of an attack on Tajikistan, there will simply be a sea of ​​blood, and Russia will not be able to stand aside - no one has canceled the CSTO agreements. One should not ignore the creeping occupation of Tajikistan and other neighbors that Afghanistan may organize, spreading Islamic fundamentalism among local youth. And drug trafficking, which is impossible to close, but the Afghan government is quite capable of covering up a little. But these are not the only reasons why we are forced to host representatives of the terrorist movement banned in Russia at home.

The enemy of my enemy


Let us repeat once again, we have no right to reject the leadership of Afghanistan, whatever it may be in essence. It is enough to give the example of Ukraine, where power was seized by the current rulers by force in 2014. Of course, this happened a little more accurately than the Taliban (banned in the Russian Federation) in 2021, but this does not change the essence - both regimes actually usurped power. Nevertheless, both Russia and the rest of the world were quite comfortable in dialogue and dealing with Kiev. There is no reason to cut off all ties with the Taliban in light of the current situation, when all the Kremlin’s forces and attention are concentrated on solving the Ukrainian problem. We definitely don’t need an extra enemy in Central Asia now.


A holy place is never empty. This ancient thesis is perfectly suited to the situation in Afghanistan. Demonstrative neglect on the part of Russia will inevitably cause rejection of the Taliban (banned in the Russian Federation) - whatever one may say, the attention of a nuclear power is very important for them. Look with what an undisguised expression of happiness they walked across the fields of the St. Petersburg Forum in 2022. If you don’t invite me to Kazan, they will be offended and turn their attention to Washington. And these guys will find use for the talents of terrorists against us and our, for now, allies in Central Asia.

Yes, the Taliban (banned in the Russian Federation) are momentary friends, no matter how you look at this situation. It is difficult to build warm relations with a regime that still stones people for adultery and generally keeps its people in the Middle Ages. In politics, in general, it is difficult to find reliable comrades who will not turn away at the first niggle. After all, the United States does not tolerate the most vegetarian morals in Saudi Arabia - in 2022, 81 criminals were officially and publicly beheaded here. What about the tragic story of Jamal Khashoggi? Both Russia and the rest of the world are forced to accept the peculiar morals of an oil power. There is no oil in Afghanistan, they beat the Americans badly, and now the opinion of the ruling class can be neglected. Americans and Europeans are welcome - the mountainous country is far from them. But the Kremlin cannot be looked down upon - geopolitics is not the same. Now Russia is diligently establishing ties with Africa, and there are examples there that make the regime of the banned Taliban look quite comfortable.

Oddly enough, the Taliban (banned in the Russian Federation) can help our country in the fight against terrorists. As you know, the ISIS Khorasan organization, with which the regime in Afghanistan is at odds, took responsibility for the terrorist attack in Crocus City Hall. The enemy of my enemy is my friend, no less. Realpolitiks in all its glory, and always has been. And if the Taliban (banned in the Russian Federation) somewhere turn off the tap for anti-Russian activists, will this be to the detriment of us?

The question is: what will Russia pay for cooperation with the Afghan government? Of course, friendship with such characters does not come cheap, but it is cheaper than cleaning up another mess on the borders of the Central Asian republics. You will have to pay for the loyalty of the Taliban (banned in the Russian Federation) with humanitarian aid - Afghanistan is not able to feed itself on its own. And the reputational losses that some people stutter about are of no interest to anyone in the modern world. Gone are the days when Russia was guided by the opinion of its “big brothers” - now only with its own mind and its own strength. Otherwise, you won’t be able to build a comfortable world—someone will always bite you from around the corner.
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  1. +14
    April 7 2024 04: 25
    An article about the “good” Taliban. But for me it makes no difference whether the Taliban or ISIS. I don't know about varieties.

    I definitely don’t understand and don’t know who the Taliban are. But I know for sure that the Taliban is a radical religious-political paramilitary organization declared terrorists in Russia and throughout the world (in many countries). But nevertheless, they conduct business and accept them at the highest level. I also know that if individual citizens do business with terrorists, this will be criminally punishable. But apparently our laws apply only to our individual citizens and do not apply to everyone equally.
    1. -5
      April 7 2024 05: 03
      The current Taliban.2 is not at all the radical Taliban of 1995.
      And he is against ISIS. I think everyone is tired of fighting and wants a peaceful life.
      And, by the way, almost all neighboring countries are fruitfully cooperating with the current authorities of Afghanistan. Uzbekistan is reconstructing the railway, plans to extend it to Pakistan, supplying electric energy and much more.
      1. +2
        April 8 2024 13: 10
        The Taliban became the enemy of the West as soon as they became independent and refused to grow drugs, refused to fight with their neighbors until the last Taliban, refused to promote religious strife with the Shiites, etc. That’s why the Amers occupied Afghanistan, even lastly they wanted to raise ISIS there - but the Taliban cut out this growth under the root together with English curators. Therefore, when the West declares that the terrorist attack in Crocus was carried out by ISIS Veloyat Khorasan, this is an attempt to blame everything on non-existent terrorists, covering up its real terrorist activities!
      2. -2
        April 9 2024 18: 00
        It makes no difference whether you are against ISIS or for it. The question is whether our goals coincide with the Taliban movement at the moment and whether they can be adjusted so that they coincide. This is cynical, I agree. But! To live with wolves is to howl like a wolf.
        It’s a pity, of course, that geographically Afghanistan is significantly further from the states than from Russia, but not having it among our enemies, and having our enemies among our enemies, is already a plus! Again, a good layer between the imperial territories of Russia and China, however. And then there were a lot of freemen living there. Why not use the Chechen experience? In Chechnya, Muslims also have four wives and severely punish adultery. Why are the Taliban so much worse than the Chechens? Drug flow? So this is the only thing that has a high margin in Afghanistan. We just need to find a way to redirect this flow in the direction we need. Again, cynical, bastard. But the last five centuries have been “playing” against us in this way! May it be rewarded!
        I think the approach to resolving the issue is absolutely correct. I think it’s even a little soft, but... up there and nearby people understand the issue more.
        Otherwise, there are a bunch of “orientalists” sitting on the forum, anti-terrorism specialists, damn it...
    2. -8
      April 7 2024 05: 43
      But I know for sure that the Taliban is a radical religious-political paramilitary organization declared terrorists
      Can you break down exactly what Taliban terrorism consists of? Or do you accept American and Israeli propaganda without even thinking about it?
      1. +9
        April 7 2024 05: 51
        Quote: Dutchman Michel
        Can you break down exactly what Taliban terrorism consists of?

        Is this shelf enough for you?

        The organization's activities were recognized as terrorist and prohibited on the territory of the Russian Federation by a decision of the Supreme Court of February 14, 2003, based on a submission from the Prosecutor General's Office based on materials from the FSB.


        Quote: Dutchman Michel
        Or do you accept American and Israeli propaganda without even thinking about it?

        That is, you consider the decision of the Supreme Court of the Russian Federation and the materials of the FSB to be “American and Israeli propaganda”? Boldly.
        1. -13
          April 7 2024 06: 08
          That is, you consider the decision of the Supreme Court of the Russian Federation and the materials of the FSB to be “American and Israeli propaganda”?
          What do you think? Do you have an opinion? wink
          1. +7
            April 7 2024 06: 16
            Quote: Dutchman Michel
            What do you think? Do you have an opinion?

            I replied that I don’t particularly understand varieties. But I try to respect and adhere to the laws and decisions of the Russian court. How are you doing with this?
        2. +19
          April 7 2024 08: 31
          And what? The Russian Federation, for example, very happily supported sanctions against the DPRK and Iran. Trying to keep up with all sorts of civilized humanity. And now - this humanity is trying to destroy us, and the Iranians and Koreans are almost our only allies...
          1. +1
            April 8 2024 20: 29
            The Russian Federation, for example, joyfully supported sanctions against the DPRK and Iran ----paul3390

            hi And now, it seems, they realized that even if you hurt yourself, Russia will never be good for the West. Aliens and everything
      2. +3
        April 7 2024 05: 57
        The Continental USA Hotel was bombed in 2009? Did the Taliban take responsibility for some vegetable?
        1. -9
          April 7 2024 06: 16
          The Continental USA Hotel was bombed in 2009?
          The Americans bought it for their consulate
      3. +6
        April 7 2024 10: 22
        Well, here is a list of terrorist attacks https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taliban#Terrorist_actions
        1. -7
          April 7 2024 11: 03
          Well, here is a list of terrorist attacks committed
          If this is a list of our enemies, I can only welcome it!
          1. +8
            April 7 2024 20: 09
            One thing doesn't get to you.
            Islamic radicalism is not at war with the Americans, Israelis, Russians, Japanese or Australians.
            They fight and destroy the “infidels”!
            And to them we are all infidels.
            And Russians too
            And the Buryats too.
            And the Khanty and the Mansi, and the Mordovians and the Chuvash.
            We are all FALSE!
            For them.
            And they will attack us at any moment, indiscriminately.
            Have you already forgotten the suicide bombings?
            Against the infidels in the name of Allah!

            All radical Islam destroys any infidels with the name of Allah on their lips!
            This is what you need to know...
            And don’t be stupid about the topic: “the enemy of my enemy is my friend!”
            1. -1
              April 8 2024 04: 31
              Don't be stupid
              Yes, don't be stupid. I also have a question for you. Do you also think that our Western “friends” are fighting for human rights, universal values ​​and democracy. However, I already know the answer...
              1. 0
                April 8 2024 07: 16
                What does the west have to do with it?
                Or do you absolutely not understand that the world is not divided into black and white?
                For you, the Americans are enemies (as for me), but the enemies of the Americans are friends for you.
                And for me they are also enemies!
                They are enemies, they just don’t wage open war now. But they never cease to be enemies!
                Snakes that eat rats do not cease to be snakes, and rats do not cease to be rats.
                There are no friends among them.
                1. -1
                  April 8 2024 07: 56
                  What does the west have to do with it?
                  And despite the fact that all the threats to my country (as for your country, I don’t know) over the past 500 years have come from the West. And today, it is the West that is our enemy. And if I were the master of the Kremlin, I would direct all my energy to ensure that all sorts of Al Qaeda, Al Nusra and every other g...no, devote themselves to the destruction of the West and everything connected with it
                  by any means, including what is called terrorism. For me personally, any act directed against the West is not terrorism, but the fight against evil. And if the government were doing just that, then there would be no Crocus, but there would be Montmartre, Place des Flowers or Bond Street. And I would love to open a bottle of Soviet champagne on this occasion. Something like this!
                  1. -1
                    April 8 2024 21: 51
                    I ask again, who blew up houses and subways in Russian cities?
                    Who was the performer?
                    Who shot Nord-Ost and Krokus?

                    Do not multiply entities beyond measure.
                    Blaming the West is easy; it is an extremely irresponsible policy.
                    If there is power, and this is Islamic radicalism, which is really killing our residents, then we must have the courage to talk about the hostility of Islamic radicalism, and not about some unknown manipulators from the West.
                    In war, those who shoot at you first are killed. And their commanders. And their treasurers.
                    They're not looking for reptilians
                    1. +1
                      April 9 2024 05: 29
                      I ask again, who blew up houses and subways in Russian cities?
                      Who was the performer?
                      Who shot Nord-Ost and Krokus?
                      Who supported separatism at the end of the USSR? Who supported the separatists in Chechnya? Who promised not to expand NATO? Who waved the carrot of help in front of their noses, demanding compliance with incomprehensible “universal human values” in the impoverished Russia of the 90s? In what year was the Jackson-Vanik Act repealed? Why weren't we allowed to buy shares in the dying Opel in the early 2000s? I could continue, but I'm sorry for the time
                  2. +1
                    April 10 2024 11: 39
                    - It is generally accepted that all the radical organizations you mentioned were supported and financed by the West, in the hope of using them to confront the socialist bloc... Perhaps this was the case at the initial stage. Now it is impossible to get rid of this, and it is impossible to reconcile.
                2. +2
                  April 8 2024 21: 28
                  Quote: SovAr238A
                  the world is not divided into white and black?

                  In this case, “students” cannot be written down unambiguously as “black”.
                  They are now the only power in the country, and an active one, establishing order, and not talking heads “in exile.” This is better than chaos and a humanitarian disaster. And they are not coming to us for “humanitarian aid”, but for equal relations. People in Afghanistan still remember our approach - not milking resources through purchased local authorities, but helping in the development of the state. This is what they want. And they have something to offer in terms of guarantees. The question is: do we have anything to offer, are we completely screwed...
            2. Qas
              +1
              April 9 2024 01: 11
              Stop being hysterical. Yes, they may be scoundrels, but this once again shows that you need to work with them. Carefully and thoughtfully. To know what they want to do in the future.
              East is a delicate matter, Petrukha - how old is this phrase?
            3. 0
              April 9 2024 18: 15
              We are all FALSE!

              Well, from the point of view of “radical Judaism” we are all goyim who need to be deceived and kept in a stable
              Why are Jews not classified as terrorists? They sometimes behave and speak out cooler than the fascists of Hitler’s ambassador. The Taliban are against them children. Again, they defend their territory and faith. Worthy of respect.
      4. +4
        April 8 2024 17: 42
        Can you break down exactly what Taliban terrorism consists of?


        Certainly can.
        They raised the Afghani rate by 50% overnight simply by coming to the financiers for a conversation.
        Their markets are bursting with food, which has become 2 times cheaper.
        And they call it terrorism because they also dare to defend this state.
        They definitely would not have ordered the withdrawal of troops from Kyiv, they would not have surrendered Chernigov, Sumy, Izyum, Balakleya, Kupyansk, Kherson.
        Then wringing their hands in the press: “Oh, how they are tormented there! You would know"!!!
        They would not have moved from seizing regions to seizing hillocks, because they would never have allowed Ukraine to receive Western assistance.
        Terrorists, of course, who else?
        1. +4
          April 8 2024 17: 43
          And they call it terrorism because they also dare to defend this state.
          It's like that!
    3. +6
      April 7 2024 06: 10
      Russia needs to be pragmatic about the situation; if it is profitable to cooperate with the Taliban now, then it must do so. The enemy of my enemy is my friend! Russia should not have friends, only its interests should be at the forefront!
      1. +2
        April 7 2024 09: 12
        If it is currently profitable to cooperate with the Taliban, then we should do so.
      2. +3
        April 7 2024 09: 25
        Quote: vasyliy1
        Russia needs to be pragmatic about the situation; if it is profitable to cooperate with the Taliban now, then it must do so.

        After the events in Crocus City, this sounds blasphemous! Just like this Sabbath itself in Kazan!
    4. -4
      April 7 2024 06: 37
      Quote: Stas157
      An article about the “good” Taliban.

      An article about realpolitik. Have you tried reading it?
      1. +1
        April 7 2024 06: 42
        Quote: Dart2027
        An article about realpolitik. Haven't tried to read it?

        Was there anything about the Taliban?

        Read the title again. And repeat out loud to reinforce the material.
        1. -1
          April 7 2024 06: 45
          Quote: Stas157
          Read the title again.

          I read
          Our new vector? The Taliban are heading to Kazan

          Where does it say that someone is good?
          Quote: Dart2027
          Have you tried reading it?

          As far as I understand, they didn’t try to read beyond the title.
          1. 0
            April 7 2024 06: 52
            Quote: Dart2027
            Where does it say that someone is good?

            Do you really need the word “good”? Do you consider your friends to be good? But this very word was used a couple of times in relation to the Taliban in the article (although perhaps indirectly).
            1. -5
              April 7 2024 07: 02
              Quote: Stas157
              Do you really need the word “good”?

              That is, there was an attempt at primitive lies.
              Quote: Stas157
              Do you consider your friends to be good? But this very word was used a couple of times in relation to the Taliban in the article (although perhaps indirectly).

              So you don’t know the saying about the enemy of my enemy?
              And you still haven’t read all the explanations about real politics (which is discussed quite specifically and unambiguously).
    5. +11
      April 7 2024 07: 36
      It is difficult to build warm relations with a regime that still stones people for adultery and generally keeps its people in the Middle Ages.

      Well, why is it difficult? If you want to build something similar in your “apartment”, then you select the appropriate “friends”...
    6. 0
      April 7 2024 08: 26
      In the modern world, the enemy of my enemy most often takes a neutral position and cannot become a friend, seeing in some way the weakness of someone who recklessly considers him a friend. The enemy of my enemy is simply waiting for the moment to stab the weaker in the back, and then with flattery he will lull the vigilance of the stronger and stab him in the back too, in order to become truly strong! So it’s too early and not safe to make such “friends” of the Kremlin! But it won’t last long and to kissing on the lips with ISIS!!
    7. +1
      April 7 2024 09: 36
      Quote: Stas157
      But for me it makes no difference whether the Taliban or ISIS. I don't know about varieties.

      You are very much mistaken. The Taliban are not exporting Islam. This is the construction of an Islamic state in a separate country. And given their fight against drugs, and with the United States, they are a fairly good situational ally for us. Have you ever heard about the Taliban's terrorist attack? Me, no (maybe only against US forces and their allies in Afghanistan itself). In general, it is possible and necessary to deal with the Taliban.
    8. +6
      April 7 2024 12: 37
      Quote: Stas157
      I also know that if individual citizens do business with terrorists, this will be criminally punishable.

      Actually, for this purpose it is necessary to remove the status of a terrorist organization from the Taliban. Otherwise, the result is absurd - our officials communicate with legal terrorists and violate our own Criminal Code.
      1. 0
        April 9 2024 09: 46
        Quote: DenVB
        Actually, This is why it is necessary to remove the status of the Taliban terrorist organization.

        According to the principle: “this is a son of a bitch, but this is our son of a bitch.” So it doesn’t matter whether they are terrorists or not? For reasons of political expediency, can the decision of the Supreme Court of the Russian Federation be changed? But then, what will it be worth as the highest judicial body if they approach cases with such approaches?
        1. 0
          April 9 2024 12: 08
          Quote: Stas157
          According to the principle: “this is a son of a bitch, but this is our son of a bitch.” So it doesn’t matter whether they are terrorists or not?

          In what sense is it unimportant? If an organization is engaged in terrorism, it is recognized as terrorist. If it has stopped engaging in terrorism and does not show us any hostility at all, what is the point of continuing to consider it a terrorist?

          Quote: Stas157
          For reasons of political expediency, can the decision of the Supreme Court of the Russian Federation be changed?

          Конечно.

          Quote: Stas157
          But then, what will it be worth as the highest judicial body if they approach cases with such approaches?

          Deal with such hysterics yourself.
  2. -7
    April 7 2024 04: 36
    Where is the Taliban a terrorist organization? This is what the USA decided.
    1. +14
      April 7 2024 05: 10
      Well, at least in 2001 two Buddha statues were blown up. Well, this is naturally nonsense for you, you’re not a Buddhist, so it’s okay?
      1. 0
        April 7 2024 05: 26
        All the same, it is not the Taliban who will end up in the eighth hottest Buddhist hell, but the Hindus, so the Taliban are nothing for a Buddhist - they will also go to the hottest, but one of the first. wink
      2. -3
        April 7 2024 05: 35
        Asad
        +1
        Today, 05: 10
        Well, at least in 2001 two Buddha statues were blown up. Well, this is naturally nonsense for you, you’re not a Buddhist, so it’s okay?

        Everything is much more complicated. I don’t want to get into the derby of politics, I suggest delving into history. In the USSR, from the 20s to the 80s of the last century, over 5 thousand churches of historical significance were destroyed. Shall we consider our Fatherland a terrorist state? The answer is clear - no.
        Go ahead. Have we broken diplomatic relations with the Baltic countries, Poland and the Czech Republic, where our military graves are being destroyed?
        I’m neither for nor against, politics is a pretty nasty business, but it’s better to trade than to fight. Iran is quite radical, as is modern Türkiye. And a number of post-Soviet “republics” raise questions.
        Well, somewhere like that. I do not claim the truth of my opinions.
        1. +1
          April 7 2024 05: 41
          I answered the question “in what place are the Taliban terrorists,” and there are plenty of examples when the Taliban took responsibility. And of course it will be necessary to cooperate with them.
      3. +10
        April 7 2024 05: 39
        If they blew up Buddha statues in India, it would be a terrorist attack. But it was in their country - Afghanistan. And that can only be called barbarians. Who hasn't done this? Maybe not a completely similar example, but if in the Baltics, Czech Republic, etc. If they demolish Soviet monuments, then they are not called terrorists for this.
      4. -14
        April 7 2024 06: 11
        Well, at least in 2001 two Buddha statues were blown up
        This is just the wretched and barbaric behavior of the Taliban, resulting from a low level of culture, but not terrorism
    2. +1
      April 7 2024 10: 24
      https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Талибан#Террористические_акции
      1. -3
        April 7 2024 14: 36
        Their country was occupied and they fought against the occupiers in their country. There is no need to compare warm with soft.
        When Jews killed Iranian scientists in Iran, these were terrorist attacks. But you don’t consider Jews terrorists.
        1. +1
          April 7 2024 15: 31
          Is the extermination of civilians a fight against occupiers? Well, you have to.
          1. +3
            April 7 2024 16: 03
            Jews exterminate civilians, but they are not terrorists? Well, you have to. How do you protect yourself?
  3. +5
    April 7 2024 05: 27
    "...shamefully abandoning everything..." they did not abandon, but left with a distant sight... I am sure that according to agreements with the Taliban.
  4. +2
    April 7 2024 05: 38
    The Chinese have long established good relations with them and are now developing the world's largest copper deposit near Kabul. I can remind you that after the collapse of the USSR, the government of “young reformers” led by Alkash began to actively support impoverished Armenia, completely ignoring the colossal oil reserves in the Caspian waters of Azerbaijan. It wouldn’t have worked out that way with Afghanistan either.
  5. +1
    April 7 2024 05: 39
    Helping the Taliban or getting on their level are two different things. We have too many calls to go into the past.
  6. 0
    April 7 2024 06: 16
    The question is: what will Russia pay for cooperation with the Afghan government?

    In any case, not with frog skins... This is how it is with us: first we fight for “them”, then we fight with “them”, then we pay “them” for our own safety and “their” well-being...
  7. -2
    April 7 2024 07: 07
    It is normal when two countries, which have fallen back into the past in their development, try to improve relations.
  8. +8
    April 7 2024 08: 26
    I wonder if there are forums “Germany – Islamic World”, “China – Islamic World”, etc.? Are there statistics on the “Russia – Russian World” forum? Of course, the president correctly pointed out the unacceptability of the slogan “Russia for Russians,” and “Russia is the Islamic World” sounds attractive.
  9. +1
    April 7 2024 08: 56
    Stas157 (Stas), dear, wonderful, you wrote in your first comment: “I definitely don’t understand and don’t know who the Taliban are. But I know for sure that the Taliban is a radical religious-political paramilitary organization declared terrorists in Russia...”. The Supreme Court of the Russian Federation declared the Taliban a terrorist organization and banned its activities on the territory of the Russian Federation. The Supreme Court of the Russian Federation did not prohibit the entry of members of the organization into the Russian Federation.... The Supreme Court of the Russian Federation can cancel its decision at any day. Will you change your opinion about the Taliban on the same day or in a month? The Supreme Court, like any government body, can, with the passage of time and changes in the political situation, change its decisions.
  10. -10
    April 7 2024 09: 40
    The Taliban have restored order in Afghanistan and the Shuravi are respected and remembered soldier
    By the way, the Taliban, translated, are scientists and not only those who understand the Koran!
    I remember the USSR, it trained thousands of Afghans, but they didn’t have time. If only 10 years had passed and Afghanistan would have become the territory of the USSR. Remember the film “White Sun of the Desert” “Officers” This is how we “pacified” the Basmachi!! They broke into villages and villages, schools, hospitals, nuclear power station tunnels, etc.
    Now the blunt-nosed people from Asia are coming to us, uneducated, and they think that Moscow is a big village
    and make their own rules
    For most, the goal is to earn money and buy a wife or two for money..)))
    And become a respected god, etc. This is their mentality forever
    1. +8
      April 7 2024 11: 09
      “The Taliban have restored order in Afghanistan and the Shuravi are respected and remembered”
      15 thousand killed! There are cockroaches living in your head, Taliban cockroaches!
  11. +8
    April 7 2024 09: 41
    In the event of an attack on Tajikistan, there will be simply a sea of ​​blood, and Russia will not be able to stand aside

    ...will have to pay with humanitarian aid - Afghanistan is not able to feed itself

    Just the other day, the entire country, without exception, was seething with righteous anger towards the Tajiks, demanding almost the complete deportation of their diasporas to their homeland.
    And now, it turns out that they are incredibly dear to us, and let’s bring the Taliban to join them, they are so unhappy there, so dependent...
    I have no words
    1. -3
      April 7 2024 10: 52
      Quote from sdivt
      and let’s bring the Taliban to join them as well

      Why do they want to come to us?
  12. +1
    April 7 2024 10: 15
    If everything moves in the same rhythm, then we cannot exclude the possibility of the Taliban being soon removed from the list of those banned in Russia.

    In fact, the process is already underway.
    https://ria.ru/20240401/taliban-1937187072.html
  13. +3
    April 7 2024 10: 23
    Quote: Mishuk
    nuclear power plants

    it is a masterpiece!
    1. +1
      April 7 2024 15: 55
      Mihan got carried away, don’t pay attention.
  14. +6
    April 7 2024 10: 23
    Promiscuous sexual intercourse leads to sexually transmitted diseases. It's time to learn how to choose partners. One illegal armed group was also proclaimed almost the savior of the Fatherland, until they went to Moscow. The same thing will happen here: no matter how much you feed the wolf, he still looks into the forest
    1. +3
      April 7 2024 10: 53
      Quote: Tire fitter
      It's time to learn how to choose partners.

      Yes from the USA, England, France, etc. need to stay away.
  15. +1
    April 7 2024 10: 47
    An alliance with the Taliban is beneficial to Russia:

    Reasons:
    (1) US is using post-Soviet nations against Russia and started creating ISIS sleeper cells.
    (2) The US influence in Pakistan India & Balochistan are increasing.
    (3) The geopolitical & geographical importance of Afghanistan.
    (4) Pashtuns are one of the best fighters in the world, same like Gurkhas.
    (5) The military assets (arms, ammunition, equipments, vehicles, helicopters, machinery etc) abandoned by US in Afghanistan will provide great source of information.
    (6) Afghanistan is a brotherly nation of Iran. etc
  16. +4
    April 7 2024 11: 05
    When the USSR helped Afghanistan for free, the Taliban killed our soldiers. And now, you see, without Russia there is no way. Drive them with a "filthy broom until they admit their mistakes and repent. And then help them, but only with the indemnity that they will pay. Putin forgave the Asian republics for the genocide of the Russians, now the Taliban is going to forgive the death of our soldiers. And then we want we were respected. If you don’t respect yourself, why should others respect you?
    1. -3
      April 7 2024 13: 30
      Quote: steel maker
      When the USSR helped Afghanistan for free, the Taliban killed our soldiers. And now, you see, without Russia there is no way. Drive them out with a filthy broom until they admit their mistakes and repent.

      Please explain how the Taliban killed our soldiers if the Taliban movement appeared in 1994, and the USSR withdrew its troops in 1989 and ceased to exist in 1991
      1. 0
        April 7 2024 13: 44
        "if the Taliban movement appeared in 1994,.."
        Whatever you call them. Spirits, there are spirits. So let them acknowledge the crimes of their spirits. The essence is the same. And mediocrities will always find a reason to justify themselves. This is what is happening in Kazan.
        1. -4
          April 7 2024 14: 27
          Quote: steel maker
          Whatever you call them. Spirits, there are spirits. So let them acknowledge the crimes of their spirits. The essence is the same.

          That is, if some Vasya drunkenly breaks someone’s head, then you must apologize for him.
          Quote: steel maker
          And mediocrities will always find a reason to justify themselves.

          That is, the attempt at lying failed.
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  18. +4
    April 7 2024 14: 22
    A fence of 10 meters, towers with automatic turrets, seismic sensors, UAVs. Any body that comes within a kilometer catches bullets from its heels until it ceases to live.
    That's it, the issue is resolved.
    I really don’t understand why this nonsense needs to be spread - guys like to live in the Middle Ages with beards, uneducated women and hashish. We need to give them the opportunity to enjoy this and not all this.
    Threat, haha!
    1. +1
      April 7 2024 21: 44
      Quote: Knell Wardenheart
      A fence of 10 meters, towers with automatic turrets, seismic sensors, UAVs. Any body that comes within a kilometer catches bullets from its heels until it ceases to live.

      I didn’t understand one thing - where should all this happen? What does the Taliban have to do with it?
  19. BAI
    +2
    April 7 2024 14: 27
    1.
    In the event of an attack on Tajikistan, there will simply be a sea of ​​blood, and Russia will not be able to stand aside - no one has canceled the CSTO agreements.

    And after Crocus we should reconsider.
    2.
    The question is: what will Russia pay for cooperation with the Afghan government?

    Humanitarian aid and weapons for regions bordering unfriendly countries
  20. +2
    April 7 2024 15: 34
    Quote: Dart2027
    Yes from the USA, England, France, etc. need to stay away.

    Absolutely right. Evacuate daughters, sons, and lovers to their homeland, those liable for military service to the Northern Military District, and put a watch on the master’s wrist made by the Chistopol Watch Factory
  21. +4
    April 7 2024 16: 45
    The participation of the Taliban in the St. Petersburg Economic Forum in 2022 is a song! Not only was the moderator there Danya Milokhin (a man who only recently learned that Sakhalin is Russia!), but the “forum guests” were attacked by prostitutes (they flocked to buy honey, because the prices there are galactic)... I can imagine that then in These “delegates” told Kabul about the crazy Russians....
  22. +1
    April 7 2024 16: 48
    This Zaur, before heading the department of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs, was ambassador to Kabul. He said that the Taliban are normal guys and you can do business with them. A day later, a bomb exploded near the Russian Embassy, ​​killing four of our people and a whole bunch of locals who applied to study with us and came to check the lists.....
    1. +1
      April 7 2024 18: 36
      Zamir Kabulov is probably one of the last professionals in this area in the entire Foreign Ministry. And it is not a fact that he will retain his position. In general, there has been a clash at the Ministry of Foreign Affairs for a long time on the topic - “we are for Tajikistan and labor-Tajikistan” - one party. “Let’s develop relations with Kabul as it is, there will be no other” - the second party. So those who are against relations with the Taliban will ultimately, without realizing it, promote the topic of migration from Tajikistan. In general, it’s not just everything there.
    2. 0
      April 7 2024 18: 50
      A day later, a bomb exploded near the Russian Embassy,

      Is it really the Taliban?
      The Taliban eradicated drug production in Afghanistan twice: before the Americans and after.
      Tajiks are divided almost in half between Tajikistan and northern Afghanistan. The Taliban have no power in the north. So if there is a war for Greater Tajikistan, it will not be the fault of the Taliban.
    3. +1
      April 7 2024 21: 53
      Quote: Kasatik
      Zaur, before heading the department of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs, was ambassador to Kabul. He said that the Taliban are normal guys and you can do business with them. A day later, a bomb exploded near the Russian Embassy

      Moreover, the bomb was detonated by an ISIS suicide bomber.

      Quote: Kasatik
      four of our people and a ton of locals died

      Moreover, among this “crowd of locals” there were also Taliban police guarding our embassy. Who also died.

      But the Taliban are to blame for everything. Who else?

      Amazing people here in the comments...
  23. +1
    April 8 2024 04: 33
    Some kind of strange friendship, especially about paying. Have you been paying your friends for a long time?
  24. -1
    April 8 2024 09: 18
    With such authors and messages that happily accept consolidation with Islamist savages (JUST TO SPEAK NATE)... Why is anyone surprised by the events in Crocus? You yourself are not against spreading the Islamist infection, you yourself are in favor of consolidation with the “Islamic world”, and then you are dissatisfied with the next “act of consolidation”?
  25. +2
    April 8 2024 09: 32
    Afghans are traders by nature, and even more cunning than the Poles. I consider it necessary to establish relations under any government. If the Taliban agree to reduce poppy crops, I would create an agricultural countermeasures program and help with equipment, seeding material and fertilizers. This will pay off triple. Do not forget that this is a Muslim region and its influence on politics in the world is colossal; it is better to have the Taliban as friends than as enemies. No matter how it sounds, Afghanistan has something to offer for trade.
  26. +2
    April 8 2024 16: 44
    If a temporary alliance with the Taliban is beneficial, then there can be no reason not to enter into it. I really don’t see the point of the union.

    But cooperation in some areas, when it is beneficial, why not? Some emotional or ideological arguments do not count.
  27. +1
    April 8 2024 18: 32
    Quote: SovAr238A
    One thing doesn't get to you.
    Islamic radicalism is not at war with the Americans, Israelis, Russians, Japanese or Australians.
    They fight and destroy the “infidels”!
    And to them we are all infidels.
    And Russians too
    And the Buryats too.
    And the Khanty and the Mansi, and the Mordovians and the Chuvash.
    We are all FALSE!
    For them.
    And they will attack us at any moment, indiscriminately.
    Have you already forgotten the suicide bombings?
    Against the infidels in the name of Allah!

    All radical Islam destroys any infidels with the name of Allah on their lips!
    This is what you need to know...
    And don’t be stupid about the topic: “the enemy of my enemy is my friend!”

    Come on, please, tell us where Islamic radicalism, represented by the Taliban, has appeared OUTSIDE AFGHANISTAN?
  28. +1
    April 8 2024 21: 25
    My opinion is that all over the world, where there were civil wars and not only wars, the strongest came to power. Their religion and laws are the business of the Afghans themselves; let them figure out how best to live. There is only one fact - this is the ruling power in the country and whether someone wants it or not, they will have to build relationships in any case. So it’s better to build them on good neighborly relations than to fight. As for assistance, last year our president himself stated that Russia is ready to give away some of the grain to needy countries for free. So why not help? And it will be easier for them and for us to score on their part. It doesn’t matter whether they are good or bad, as long as they don’t create problems for us. And they treat us much better today than before.
  29. 0
    April 9 2024 19: 18
    The enemy of my enemy
    If this enemy is the enemy of both you and your enemy, maybe look for another solution?
  30. 0
    April 11 2024 22: 12
    It's funny to read that the Americans were in a hurry and abandoned their weapons in Afghanistan
  31. 0
    April 11 2024 22: 19
    It's funny to read that the Americans were in a hurry and abandoned their weapons in Afghanistan. Why do you think so? They deliberately, very carefully and far-sightedly left it there. Afghans are a complex people and it is important to know and understand that if something happens, no one in the area will be able to give them a real rebuff. They have been living in war for centuries, this seems to be the most experienced, war-hardened country. But we must understand that they are tired and want to somehow establish a peaceful life in the state. The country is rich; even under the USSR, geological exploration found large deposits of precious metals and TD. China is up to its neck in investments. There are not enough qualified personnel, they have specialists. There are also no factories or trade houses. Who knows...maybe it’s worth helping and then no one will care about them.