Elon Musk: With a nuclear bomb, America could easily subjugate every nation on Earth

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Elon Musk: With a nuclear bomb, America could easily subjugate every nation on Earth

The head of the American company SpaceX, Elon Musk, said that, in his opinion, modern Western civilization has “extraordinary empathy compared to its strength.” To support his claim, Musk argues that by possessing a nuclear bomb, the United States could easily subjugate every nation on Earth.

Musk suggests that Hitler and Stalin, whom the American businessman apparently puts on a par, possessing nuclear weapons, would undoubtedly take over the whole world. He also recalls that the United States helped restore defeated Germany and Japan. According to Musk, this was the only precedent in the world stories, when a nation with such power helped its defeated enemies instead of destroying them.



At the same time, the American businessman, it seems, never studied history, otherwise he would have known that the United States was rebuilding Japan after completely destroying two cities with nuclear strikes. It is not the restoration of a defeated enemy, but the use of nuclear weapons against civilians that is the only precedent in world history. We can also add here other US war crimes: the use of depleted uranium shells in Yugoslavia, the carpet bombing of cities that resulted in a horrific level of “collateral casualties,” the use of napalm and defoliants in Vietnam, and the organization of numerous coups d’etat around the world.

And besides, it is perhaps worth noting that it is not the United States that currently has the strongest nuclear arsenal in the world...
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  1. +48
    29 March 2024 17: 52
    — Musk, it looks like he inserted the chip into himself, but in the wrong place...
    1. +12
      29 March 2024 17: 56
      Nichese belay first hit someone in the face, and then regret it, then hit someone else again, and regret it again...
      1. +14
        29 March 2024 18: 30
        But to regret... is it to subjugate and set up your bases? Under the heel?
        So I understand...
        love
        1. +5
          29 March 2024 18: 40
          Quote: Mouse
          But to regret... is it to subjugate and set up your bases? Under the heel?
          So I understand...

          And their troops in these countries are officially called occupation troops
          1. +4
            29 March 2024 19: 04
            Quote: figvam
            And their troops in these countries are officially called occupation troops

            Ignorance of history makes me laugh. hi
            1. +1
              29 March 2024 20: 23
              Quote: fif21
              Ignorance of history makes me laugh

              it would be funny if it weren't so sad
              1. +2
                29 March 2024 22: 13
                The USA and Russia have different histories of the world.
                The only thing it has in common is the names of the participants. And that's not all.
            2. 0
              29 March 2024 20: 42
              Don't hit him. It's just Anglo-Saxon upbringing.
            3. 0
              30 March 2024 13: 38
              Então só não vê quem não quer ver. O Ocidente e EUA tem bazes militares em todo o mundo. .. Para que? Querem colonizar p Planeta? Se fossem bons não necessitavam de bazes militares em outros países. É o Terrorismo de estado a querer controlar a força. Estas politicas serão destruídas quando os órgãos de informação forem sérios e imparciais. Queremos que uma politica ganhe no mundo mas sem a custa de armas ou propaganda.
        2. -9
          30 March 2024 00: 29
          So, are the Japanese or Germans living poorly now, or the South Koreans? Let’s compare with those whom the USSR “blessed” with its attention: North Korea, Vietnam (well, at least they turned on their brains and disowned the USSR/RF), maybe Eastern Europe lives better than Western Europe, they are like “winners”, Egypt, until Nasser sent us away, or Syria, Iran, Libya.
          Everyone is bathing in luxury, some, however, are starving and sitting in camps
          1. +4
            30 March 2024 01: 11
            1) So, in your opinion, Egypt is now a prosperous country?
            2) Please tell us how exactly the USSR blessed Iran with its attention? If you are talking about the 1953 coup, then it was organized by a slightly different state. The same one that made Haiti, Guatemala, Honduras, Colombia, the Dominican Republic and many others happy.
            3) Do you have any complaints about the standard of living in Libya before the US blessed it with humanitarian bombings in 2011?
          2. 0
            30 March 2024 08: 44
            The Japanese and Germans are poverty compared to what it would be like if they took over the planet.
    2. +10
      29 March 2024 18: 06
      Quote: Vladimir Vladimirovich Vorontsov
      — Musk, it looks like he inserted the chip into himself, but in the wrong place...

      Musk lives in his own virtual world, far from reality.
      1. +8
        29 March 2024 18: 12
        Quote: carpenter
        Musk lives in his own virtual world, far from reality.

        Well, the states recently restored the economy of Afghanistan....supplies of opium poppies and marijuana, etc. increased 10 times...
        that the United States helped restore defeated Germany and Japan
      2. +10
        29 March 2024 18: 18
        Quote: carpenter
        Quote: Vladimir Vladimirovich Vorontsov
        — Musk, it looks like he inserted the chip into himself, but in the wrong place...

        Musk lives in his own virtual world, far from reality.

        Musk seemed to be an adequate person (I’m not a fan of his cunning dude), but now he started talking like that.. This is something not very good for us in Russia!
        One thing is reassuring that Russia has modernized its Strategic Missile Forces by 90% and we are not afraid of any missile defense in order to strike a retaliatory blow.
        1. +2
          30 March 2024 13: 47
          Quote: Marvell
          This is something not very good for us in Russia!

          It's just that the US election campaign is very nervous. They say everything there exclusively for the internal public. “Let's make America great again”, “We have such empathy and we are so kind and caring” - election slogans and cliches of official propaganda.
          1. 0
            30 March 2024 14: 04
            Quote: bayard
            Quote: Marvell
            This is something not very good for us in Russia!

            It's just that the US election campaign is very nervous. They say everything there exclusively for the internal public. “Let's make America great again”, “We have such empathy and we are so kind and caring” - election slogans and cliches of official propaganda.

            Well, let them be nervous...America will never be like this again!!!
            The Russians are coming, it's called... laughing
            They themselves woke up the bear and their attempts to drive him back into his den are unsuccessful. The roar is already spreading to the whole world
      3. +2
        29 March 2024 18: 53
        Quote: carpenter
        Musk lives in his own virtual world, far from reality.

        Even in his strange world, the States did not restore anyone after Europe and the South Caucasus. Everything was a long time ago. And even that is not true.
    3. +5
      29 March 2024 18: 13
      His neural network began to malfunction due to overload... Apparently his network is not so deployed... so it’s bringing a blizzard to people... fool
    4. +1
      30 March 2024 03: 21
      Jajaja, sí, se insertó el chip defectuoso en el trasero.
  2. +11
    29 March 2024 17: 55
    Somehow Musk got lost in the annals of history. The power of the states is based on the deaths, deceit and suffering of peoples who had the misfortune of being on their historical path.
    1. +6
      29 March 2024 18: 06
      Somehow Musk got lost in the annals of history.

      Yes, he is the same, a typical American gangster. He will sell his own mother for profit.
      1. +4
        29 March 2024 18: 22
        Quote: Clear
        Somehow Musk got lost in the annals of history.

        Yes, he is the same, a typical American gangster. He will sell his own mother for profit.

        Everything is just so clear, right out of the mouth... Apparently they stepped on his tail and such an unexpected attack... Apparently the hegemons sensed something dangerous for themselves in the world... hi
    2. +3
      29 March 2024 18: 30
      So he says that they say thank you that we are so kind, we could kill everyone. Perhaps this is a hint that the US will be led by someone of Hitler’s level, and not Bidon
    3. 0
      29 March 2024 18: 45
      Quote: Roust
      Somehow Musk got lost in the annals of history.

      That's exactly what Musk got lost in anal. laughing And in the real annals (with two “n”) of history, “great” America began with the destruction of indigenous people and the introduction of slave labor. They built their well-being on someone else’s hump. By the way, the empathy that Musk mentioned is the ability to understand what emotions and feelings another person is experiencing. And how does this empathy of “Western civilization” relate to its real actions? Well, perhaps they are imbued with the “emotions and feelings” of the LGBT community, judging by what is going on with them now. To be honest, I didn’t expect such a coming out from Musk. Sit down, Elon, you get a bad grade in history. Yes
      1. +2
        29 March 2024 20: 36
        Peace is war, freedom is slavery, empathy is egocentrism and psychopathy, and in general this is something else, the world must live by the rules that the hegemon comes up with.
        Apparently Musk's tail was pinched.
    4. 0
      29 March 2024 19: 21
      “Somehow Musk got lost in the anals of history”
      It is in ANAL laughing
      Annals is different Yes
  3. +2
    29 March 2024 17: 56
    Did he microchip himself, strange statements?
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  5. +2
    29 March 2024 18: 01
    And besides, it is perhaps worth noting that it is not the United States that currently has the strongest nuclear arsenal in the world... - This country is not going to conquer other countries. This country has enough of its own resources. This country has shown everyone its power, more than once. The main enemy of this state is fascism, which it constantly fights.
  6. +2
    29 March 2024 18: 02
    Well, Musk is a patriot of the United States, he knows better there, it’s simple with his bell tower)))
    1. +4
      29 March 2024 18: 09
      Well, Musk is a patriot of the United States, he knows better there, it’s simple with his bell tower

      So that he comes from this bell tower... and straight with his snout!
      1. 0
        29 March 2024 18: 14
        Quote: Clear
        Well, Musk is a patriot of the United States, he knows better there, it’s simple with his bell tower

        So that he comes from this bell tower... and straight with his snout!

        Putin even said that the USA is a great power))))
        1. +3
          29 March 2024 18: 18
          Putin even said that the USA is a great power))))

          It was he... who got excited! winked
          1. +1
            29 March 2024 18: 23
            Quote: Clear
            It was he... who got excited!

            Putin: The USA is a superpower and this is an obvious fact
            https://ria.ru/20240306/putin-1931589040.html эх опять недавно погорячился )))
            1. +1
              29 March 2024 20: 25
              the word great has many meanings
        2. +4
          29 March 2024 18: 36
          Quote: opuonmed
          Putin even said that the United States is a great power

          "great", created great shit for the world.
      2. +4
        29 March 2024 18: 25
        Quote: Clear
        Well, Musk is a patriot of the United States, he knows better there, it’s simple with his bell tower

        So that he comes from this bell tower... and straight with his snout!

        And only his legs were sticking out..))) Musk apparently sensed the Northern wind of change and screamed.
        Profits went down bully
  7. +3
    29 March 2024 18: 03
    A virus went to the wrong site, picked up the chip and got hacked.
  8. +2
    29 March 2024 18: 04
    Elon Musk: With a nuclear bomb, America could easily subjugate every nation on Earth

    No, it won’t help. request
    There will be many who want to, even risking revenge.
    The total war in the USSR and other countries did not help the Nazis.
    Yes, in retaliation they destroyed many times the civilian population, but in the end they would have been deported sooner or later anyway.
    so here, well, they’ll reset the pin until the end. Then “emigrants” will come to them and give them a “sweet life” in their homeland.
    I don’t condone terrorism, it’s just that there will always be someone who wants to take revenge for genocide.
  9. +4
    29 March 2024 18: 05
    To support his claim, Musk argues that by possessing a nuclear bomb, the United States could easily subjugate every nation on Earth.

    Musk forgot that other countries also have atomic bombs aimed at the United States and there are no fewer of them.
    1. +6
      29 March 2024 18: 13
      Musk forgot that other countries also have atomic bombs
      He probably meant the time when only the United States had a monopoly on the atom.
      1. +1
        29 March 2024 18: 32
        The higher ☝you don’t understand what he’s talking about! And the translation is rather inaccurate! ...
      2. +3
        29 March 2024 20: 31
        Quote: Dutchman Michel
        He probably meant the time when only the United States had a monopoly on the atom.

        Yes, they didn’t have a great monopoly (the time gap was 4 years), and they calculated the possibility, they didn’t manage to win, otherwise they would have started a war without any problems
        1. 0
          30 March 2024 13: 10
          Taking into account the impossibility of reliable delivery of nuclear weapons to the United States, the monopoly lasted much longer than 4 years. Yes, even in the early 1960s they had an overwhelming nuclear advantage.
          1. 0
            30 March 2024 13: 32
            the problem was that the mattresses did not have guaranteed delivery and breakthrough of air defense, in all calculations, the first strike was not disinfecting and the war was moving into a long-term phase, this is what stopped the mattresses, that is, they did not have a complete monopoly, otherwise they would crush us
            1. -1
              30 March 2024 13: 44
              Air defense at that time was not powerful enough to stop the raids of hundreds and thousands of bombers, among which you might even find one carrying nuclear weapons. Given the overwhelming superiority of their aircraft and nuclear industries, in the long run they were guaranteed to win by destroying all enemy rear lines. They were stopped by their reluctance to have a big war and losses. Because they still have to take into account the opinion of the public.
              1. 0
                30 March 2024 15: 06
                The monopoly was more of a theoretical nature. Well, they probably could have dropped 2-3 bombs on the USSR. What next?
                1. 0
                  30 March 2024 16: 18
                  Two or three? Look at the rate at which their arsenal is growing. And this is in peacetime.
                  1. 0
                    30 March 2024 17: 10
                    After 49, the monopoly disappeared. And before - they would hardly have enriched uranium for a larger number of bombs. And yes, the possibility of dropping bombs on the USSR during the monopoly was considered.
                    1. 0
                      30 March 2024 17: 43
                      There were plans, like any self-respecting General Staff. But there was no preparation for their implementation (namely, a sharp increase in the number of bombs, bombers and uranium enrichment factories).

                      In 49, the USSR had as much as 1 bomb, the USA had 235. In 51, 25 versus 640. In 55, 200 versus 3057. The ratio of carriers able to reach them is about the same sad. Those. with a strong desire, the United States could destroy the USSR (or cause catastrophic damage and later finish it off due to additional bomb production during the war) with zero or little damage to itself.
              2. 0
                30 March 2024 15: 07
                I didn’t voice my opinion, but the conclusions of American generals, I think they knew the situation better than you
                1. -1
                  30 March 2024 16: 17
                  And they just didn’t know the situation well, because for obvious reasons there was very little information about the USSR at that time, it was almost impossible to send spies there. Therefore, under the impressions of WWII, they greatly overestimated the USSR and thought that the USSR had armadas that did not exist in reality. Google bomber gap and missile gap.
                  1. 0
                    30 March 2024 23: 13
                    I understand that you knew the situation much better
  10. +3
    29 March 2024 18: 05
    What happened in the 40s and 50s is very different from what we see now. References to distant history do not add anything to the understanding of the processes taking place in our time. The USA and the world around have changed a lot, changed beyond recognition.
    1. +3
      29 March 2024 18: 38
      Quote: Sergey Alexandrovich
      What happened in the 40s and 50s is very different from what we see now.

      It's like night and day.
  11. +1
    29 March 2024 18: 06
    The guy is starting to get stupid, apparently retirement is close. I thought he was smarter.
    1. 0
      29 March 2024 19: 21
      Quote: Sergey3
      The guy is starting to get stupid, apparently retirement is close.

      What a pension, he has so much money that his great-great-grandchildren will have it.
      1. +1
        29 March 2024 20: 15
        A pension is a state of mind and body, and not a postman near the house with alms from the state! wassat
        1. 0
          29 March 2024 20: 17
          Quote: Sergey3
          Retirement is a state of mind and body

          Without money, there is neither soul nor body, there is poverty.
  12. +2
    29 March 2024 18: 07
    They have God and a fallen angel on the same level!
    1. -1
      29 March 2024 20: 18
      Quote: pavelpavel
      They have God and a fallen angel on the same level!

      And their God is not ours for a long time, but another.
  13. -2
    29 March 2024 18: 07
    I have to say this: Elon, study Russian and Chinese, if you haven’t started yet, you will have to. time is running out!
    Otherwise, you won’t understand the meaning of the Russian phrase; similarly, every sage is quite simple, but it sounds more noble and sublime. I would say that between us, intellectuals and billionaires, there is no limit to communication -
    For every impudent, smart and cunning person there is a mandatory screw with a left-hand thread!
    1. +2
      29 March 2024 18: 39
      Quote: ZovSailor
      Elon, learn Russian and Chinese

      He knows Russian quite well.
  14. +3
    29 March 2024 18: 12
    No one has ever owned the world in the entire history of mankind!
  15. +2
    29 March 2024 18: 13
    Well, the United States planned to become the ruler of the world, having a monopoly on the atomic bomb. But then, in 1949, the USSR suddenly created its own, and it became inappropriate to dictate terms...
  16. +1
    29 March 2024 18: 14
    Musk claims that by possessing a nuclear bomb, the United States could easily subjugate every nation on Earth.

    Musk is a typical American with stereotypes. Japan was bombed in the Stone Age not by atomic bombs, but by hundreds of B29 bombers from the murderer Limey. In Korea they wanted to do the same thing, but they already broke their teeth (thanks to China and the USSR). Then there was Vietnam, and only after that The Americans were despondent. They failed to take over the world because of what was piled on them, and not because of their pacifism. Musk is of course a ignoramus in History, why does he even bother with it)
  17. 0
    29 March 2024 18: 22
    They could have subjugated, therefore, they did not subjugate because of their innate humanism laughing
  18. 0
    29 March 2024 18: 24
    They restored it, but not out of the kindness of their hearts and not out of humanitarian considerations. They were restored in order to raise obedient, manageable and largely dependent countries, using them, first of all, as a weapon against the USSR.
  19. 0
    29 March 2024 18: 25
    And I had respect for Musk. America restored Japan?! belay
    The mainland of Japan was practically not damaged during the Second World War, except for Hiroshima and Nagasaki. But it wasn’t the states that defeated Germany
    1. +3
      29 March 2024 18: 40
      Quote: I am mine
      America restored Japan?!

      More likely strangled Japan.
      1. 0
        30 March 2024 13: 11
        It was so strangled that it became the second economy in the world) And the Japanese lived much better after the war than before the war.
  20. +4
    29 March 2024 18: 29
    Mr Musk is a pentagon contractor. He is a contradictory figure. His visit to Auschwitz camp Jan 22, 2024 - was a self goal.

    The difference between Russia and the western world is very clear.
    Unlike western nations, Russia is ruled by a patriot, Vladimir Putin.
    He has nearly 24 years experience as leader for the Russian federation.
    He knows exactly 'how' the world is spinning.
    He knows the 'traitors' sitting in Washington DC, London, Brussels etc
    He knows the 'sports & games' of American zionist-deepstate.
    He knows the 'basic instincts' of Anglo-Americans - lie, cheat, steal & kill.
    He knows the 'affinity' of Anglo-Americans to drink civilian blood, around the world.
    He knows the location, date and time of every western cities that have to be nuked.

    These 'divine birds' are waiting to kiss every western cities that are trying to harm Russian's:
    3M-51 Alfa, 3M-22 Zircon, 9M730 Burevestnik, Kalibr, Novator 9M729, P-800 Oniks, bZhRK Barguzin, R-29RMU Sineva, R-29RMU2 Layner, R-36M2, R-39M, RSM-56 Bulava, RS -24 Yars, 9K720 Iskander, Kh-47M2 Kinzal, RS-26 Rubez, RS-28 Sarmat, Avangard, Topol M etc
  21. 0
    29 March 2024 18: 29
    Musk is too stupid, because he never realized that the winner of the USSR in World War II, and the United States only clung to it using lies and meanness towards the USSR.
    1. +2
      29 March 2024 18: 41
      Quote: Vasily12
      Musk is too stupid because he never realized that the winner of the USSR in World War II

      No, he knows this, they will quickly close his hole.
  22. +1
    29 March 2024 18: 40
    Musk has put his shadowy “genius” at the service of neo-colonialism, will soon launch mattress weapons into space, and is aiming Nazi missiles at Russian cities, so what else can we expect from him?
  23. +1
    29 March 2024 18: 43
    He may be a brilliant shopkeeper (although unlikely), but... Frank.
  24. +2
    29 March 2024 18: 45
    Musk believes that countries that are attacked by the United States, especially nuclear powers, will stand “at attention” and do nothing.
  25. +1
    29 March 2024 18: 45
    And besides, it is perhaps worth noting that it is not the United States that currently has the strongest nuclear arsenal in the world...

    A beautiful thesis! The arsenals are approximately equal, so here it is more necessary to evaluate the complex. The number of targets for us and the United States to destroy will correlate with industrial potential, and between us, I would say it is not in our favor. That is, conditionally, the United States needs to hit fewer targets for the “success” criterion than we do. Considering that the United States in its planning is betting on a “white move,” this disproportion in theory is even more aggravated. So let's not be too optimistic, author. There have already been articles about “glazing”, they were not optimistic about our current capabilities.

    If we look back, in 1945 the Americans already had a bomb, we got it in 1949, somewhere I came across a figure that by 1949 the Americans already had about a hundred bombs. At that point in time, in fact, the USSR was the only serious adversary of the West and did not have (in significant quantities) the means of achieving and extending American industrial power. And the US industry after WW2 was at the peak of production - I remind you that they helped restore Japan and Europe, this is the epic scale of orders and Papa Carlo’s workshop works like clockwork, riveting products “like sausages.” Armadas of stratobombers also haven’t really gone anywhere in 4 years - were Soviet air defense and aviation capable of preventing the impact of this on most of their industrial projects?
    It is worth noting the serious contribution of lend-lease to filling food niches and niches for products that the USSR produced with difficulty even in 1949 because, unlike the USA, it was restoring its industry.
    In the event of an attack by the United States with Lend-Lease, no one would have helped the USSR - in Asia there was a torn Korea and China, an unfriendly and also torn Japan, in Europe there were thoroughly damaged European states, England was not our friend. And with allies regarding the future ATS, everything was not rosy - events took place both in the GDR and in Hungary, albeit somewhat later, but the prerequisites were already there.
    So, did the United States have the technical ability to screw over the USSR before the 1950s? I had, as they say, “easy”. And the price of this issue would not be so prohibitive - the United States could reach us both from the air and from the sea, given the hellish troubles we had with the grinding of the GG + allies (about 100 million democratic potential and some kind of second front), with by grinding the Americans, we would have problems that are incomparable because the demographics of the US + WB were superior to the Soviet ones. The allies had an intact fleet, which is also important.
    Could they? They could. And until about 1955 they could do it more than confidently and relatively bloodlessly.
    Why didn't they do this? Due to the model's worse focus on direct occupation. Vietnam and later Afghanistan showed that in the absence of problems with destruction, the United States has problems with retention and stabilization. One cannot say that they are “morally ethical”, but not without it. They pulled off such a luxury as the mass deportation of dissenting elements, which was so easy for temporary detention centers, with much greater difficulty (the deportation of American Japanese in BB2) and the forceful retention of “gray” territories was always much weaker for them due to the lower tolerance of the Americans (of those times ) to violence and deprivation.
    I believe that the problem in those years for the United States would not have been the “removal” of the USSR, but the question of what and how to organize and who would support it in these territories later. This would potentially be a colossal vacuum zone.
    1. +1
      29 March 2024 19: 26
      Was the military potential of the USSR in some way inferior to the potential of the United States? Of course, it is inappropriate to argue about “who would have won” in 1945, but I don’t think that even a hundred nuclear bombs could have somehow tipped the scales of victory in the direction of the United States. I doubt
      1. 0
        29 March 2024 20: 11
        The USSR fleet was weak in BB2 and was even more weak after BB2. for a long time. The quantity of strategic aviation and its quality were absolutely incomparable with the West. A hundred nuclear bombs multiplied by strategic aviation means that Moscow and Leningrad have been removed, these are transport hubs and industrial facilities that have been removed. zones that strategists can reach. And yes, the oil-bearing areas in the North Cave, they could reach the oil-bearing areas of Romania as well. They could withstand our most combat-ready military concentrations in Europe - how long would anything else have fought without fuel and in the conditions of pieces removed from the organizational and industrial chains? It must be understood that the raids of the “strategists” cannot be compared in any way with the German raids, even in a conventional execution. And in nuclear...
        We had large forces in Europe, but a very modest ability to fight strategic aviation. There were no anti-aircraft missiles yet; turbojet fighters were still fairly crude machines.

        This is not an aesthetic debate about who is cooler - an elephant or a dinosaur, I am pointing out that the West had more strength to effectively influence, although the USSR had significant forces and this cannot be denied. Still, a hundred bombs of the “Fat Man” type are a serious trump card, and it’s difficult to say how many of them could be riveted if absolutely necessary in a year in the USA. Their industry was very good. great
        1. +1
          29 March 2024 21: 45
          We had large forces in Europe, but a very modest ability to fight strategic aviation. There were no anti-aircraft missiles yet; turbojet fighters were still fairly crude machines.

          Oh, are you serious that the USSR fighters, which we riveted in considerable numbers, could not shoot down the heavy US strategic bombers, which were supposed to fly naked from distant bases to the inner cities of the USSR?
          They never had the opportunity to gain a decisive advantage over us. Bombs take a long time to make, an appropriate industry is needed for enrichment, and the delivery means were decidedly late.
          While our tanks could move towards Europe, even a hundred bombs would do nothing against this.
          Therefore, all their plans remained on paper.
          1. 0
            30 March 2024 13: 18
            Heavy bombers independently fought off fighters in WWII due to the huge number of machine guns and high strength, the B-17 in particular in the combat box. And this despite the fact that German fighters were armed more powerfully than their Soviet counterparts. There was nothing at all to shoot down B-36s at the time of their appearance.

            The production of both bombs and enrichment would jump sharply in the event of war. And they would move towards Europe, yes... well, what’s the point of capturing Europe if the rear, population and industry have ceased to exist, and America is neither hot nor cold from this?
    2. Msi
      0
      29 March 2024 19: 36
      I believe that the problem in those years for the United States would not have been the “removal” of the USSR

      We wrote a lot... I barely finished reading it. Previously, they seemed to write even more or less, but now they’ve generally switched to some kind of nonsense...
      In short ...
      They could not defeat us, the USSR. So they didn’t dare to attack.
      Bombed...and Germany was heavily bombed? We need a land war. And there was no one equal to the Soviet army of the 1945 model.
      1. 0
        29 March 2024 20: 14
        Well, admit it, you just don’t want to think, you want everything to be like in the sacred tablets.
        Then I recommend reading them and not my comments. In general, if you are at least a little interested in the layouts for 1945-1950, I recommend reading not me, but finding the payroll of the air regiments and the Navy, with numbers. To see where there were bases and airfields in the west in some 1949 and where the “strategists” could reach from these bases. Plans like “Dropshot” existed for a reason - they figured out what they could do “just in case.”
  26. +1
    29 March 2024 18: 50
    According to Musk, this was the only precedent in world history when a nation with such power helped its defeated enemies instead of destroying them.

    The VKF looks at Musk's statement as if it were you-know-what. smile
    And in general, Germany and Japan after the war for the United States are not enemies, but occupied territories and fighting hamsters.
  27. +2
    29 March 2024 18: 51
    I’m not a fan of conspiracies, but from ’46 to ’51, potential partners tested nuclear devices, not ammunition. .. Maybe it was not American bombs that fell on Hiroshima and Nagasaki, but bombs wrested from the Germans in time? recourse
    PS If the mattresses had had a military significant amount of nuclear weapons, I think they would have worked on us in 47... They no longer had problems with carriers and bases.
    Musk seems to be playing with loyalty - he has gone far enough into the Ukrainian issue to understand it. wink
    IMHO hi
    1. +1
      29 March 2024 19: 24
      Quote: engineer74
      Maybe it was not American bombs that fell on Hiroshima and Nagasaki, but bombs wrested from the Germans in time?

      Quite likely, even more likely true.
  28. 0
    29 March 2024 19: 03
    Musk suggests that Hitler and Stalin, whom the American businessman apparently puts on a par, possessing nuclear weapons, would undoubtedly take over the whole world.

    Maybe someone will tell this, how to call it censorship, that Stalin had nuclear weapons.
  29. 0
    29 March 2024 19: 04
    I wonder what nationality Elon himself is? So boldly talks about the fate of nations on planet Earth. Maybe he's an alien?
    1. +1
      29 March 2024 19: 34
      Quote: Evgenijus
      I wonder what nationality Elon himself is?

      Born in Pretoria, his father's ancestors are from Switzerland. The States are not his homeland.
  30. +3
    29 March 2024 19: 12
    With a nuclear bomb, the US could easily subjugate every nation on Earth

    Friend Musk forgot to say that of the delivery vehicles the United States, at that time, had only the B-29 with a maximum flight range of 3.230 km, at a time when the western border of the USSR was 7.000 km, and more than 10.000 to Vladivostok. When the United States improved its performance characteristics, the USSR already had something to respond to Yes
    Only this explains the “humanism” of striped animals...
  31. -1
    29 March 2024 19: 15
    So...Japosha and Germash are essentially still occupied.
    *x-he Musk, like any mattress pad, doesn’t know anything about the history of the world...except for the civil war in North America.
    1. 0
      29 March 2024 19: 24
      The official history of the War of the North and South (1861-1864), taught in the USA, is also not quite what it really was... The same “African Americans” fought on both sides in commercial quantities. And about the purpose of the war, how they learned about their “liberation” around the middle of the XNUMXth century))
  32. 0
    29 March 2024 19: 31
    It’s surprising that the richer a person is, the stupider he is (these are observations from life). This one is simply pretending to be a fool, because he must know that in Vietnam there are still closed villages in which only cripples live generation after generation, crippled children are born - victims of American bombings with Monsant chemicals (now these bastards deal with seeds and fertilizers). So the authorities only allow our doctors into these villages because they don’t trust others.
  33. 0
    29 March 2024 20: 22
    Musk suggests that Hitler and Stalin, whom the American businessman apparently puts on a par, possessing nuclear weapons, would undoubtedly take over the whole world. He also recalls that the United States helped restore defeated Germany and Japan. According to Musk, this was the only precedent in world history when a nation with such power helped its defeated enemies instead of destroying them.
    Is he...or is he acting like a fool?!!
    mattresses didn’t help, they earned a lot of money from “restoration”, and they really wanted to subjugate the whole world, the problem was that the USSR stood in the way of these dreams
  34. 0
    29 March 2024 20: 32
    Quote: Elon Musk
    With a nuclear bomb, America could easily subjugate every nation on Earth.
    . In 1952, US President Harry Truman said: “We will wipe out any ports and cities that must be destroyed to achieve our goals.”
    Unthinkable, Totality, Chariotir, Dropshot,
  35. 0
    29 March 2024 21: 00
    Recently, our media have mentioned Mr. Musk too often. You could say they popularized it among the people.
    And he is an American. He speaks and thinks like a typical American.

    And about:
    The US helped rebuild defeated Germany

    I can’t say what the help was, but obviously something else - not all of Germany, but only half
    And the second half was restored by the very same ones who defeated it before.
  36. 0
    29 March 2024 23: 54
    Elon Musk: With a nuclear bomb, America could easily subjugate every nation on Earth
  37. 0
    30 March 2024 02: 30
    To support his claim, Musk argues that by possessing a nuclear bomb, the United States could easily subjugate every nation on Earth.
    Well, here he is, all mericatos in his glory)). More precisely in color.
  38. +1
    30 March 2024 05: 54
    When America had superiority over the Soviets in nuclear weapons, there were no delivery systems or sufficient power of charges. When it appeared, the USSR was no longer lagging behind. So, this is not a matter of any special American empathy.
    The “magnanimity” towards Germany and Japan is also easy to explain: the winners divided their vassals among themselves and began to pump them up. If there were no ideological differences between America and Russia, perhaps these territories would have been cleared in a very inhumane manner. Because the enemies are, in fact, Hitler’s henchmen. So, Europeans need to pray for Stalin and communism)
    1. 0
      30 March 2024 13: 29
      The United States had an overwhelming superiority in the number of bombs and carriers up until the 1960s inclusive. Moreover, until the mid-1950s there was nothing to deliver nuclear weapons to the United States.

      Why cleanse an entire country, receiving colossal reputational damage (becoming Reich 2.0 in the eyes of the rest of the world) and eternal hatred from the survivors? For some reason, France after Napoleonic War and after Franco-Prussian War, Germany after WWII was not cleansed.
      1. 0
        30 March 2024 15: 22
        The Tu-4 was a degraded copy of the B-29, the range was a thousand km shorter, but it was enough to reach some places. The first compact (and not as expensive as early nuclear developments) thermonuclear bomb was developed in the USSR, the first operational ICBM was created in the USSR, after WWII the Soviet army was the strongest on the planet. Yes, the United States could probably have caused more damage with nuclear weapons at some point, but this did not guarantee them victory.
        As for the cleanup, the genie was out of the bottle. If there had not been a dispute between superpowers/ideologies, including along the lines of “who is more humane, enlightened and progressive,” who knows how it would have turned out if territories without the population attached to them were considered the main resource. The Americans, I think, would be ready for this, given their historical experience. Capitalist Russia could be driven by rage from millions of losses - and that its people could resort to extreme cruelty is proven, alas, by the history of the Civil War.
        1. 0
          30 March 2024 16: 15
          Tu-4 appeared en masse just in the mid-1950s, ICBMs only in 1957 (yes, the USSR had it earlier, but the USA built a lot more of them before the Cuban Missile Crisis). Well, in a nuclear war, only the number of carriers and bombs is important, and the US aircraft industry and nuclear industry were much stronger. Therefore, in the long run, they would win by destroying all rear lines. But the losses were not worth it, and the population would not have supported TMB.

          This makes no sense; it is always more profitable to re-educate the population, because... it is a valuable resource, especially in resource-poor Europe and Japan. Well, or at least not destroy, remember what cruelty brought back to those same Nazis.

          Here is the ratio of nuclear forces https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_race#/media/File:US_and_USSR_nuclear_stockpiles.svg
          1. 0
            31 March 2024 17: 11
            What was practically feasible in the 50s? The extermination of 5-10 million Soviet citizens, the transformation of Europe into the lunar surface due to attacks on the advancing SA? There were either bombs not much more powerful than the Kid and the Fat Man, or non-transportable structures. Do not underestimate the power of a conventional army; the SA could then sweep across Europe like a skating rink - besides, in many countries communism was very popular; in Italy and Greece, for example, they had to resort to terrorist methods.
            As for “people as a resource,” this is reasoning within the existing paradigm. Who knows what kind of ideology would have risen to the top in the absence of the communist one - and mass extermination would not have frightened that Europe (just remember the Thirty Years' War). This is how the Nazis actually appeared. And what would have happened, according to the tit-for-tat principle, with the serviceable Czech arms suppliers to the Reich, the Hungarians who committed atrocities on our territory, the Romanians who fought there, the Bulgarians who helped Hitler and the historical enemies the Poles?
  39. -1
    30 March 2024 09: 39
    Well, in general, Musk is right. The West in general and the United States in particular have so far been limited by moral rather than technical capabilities. They could easily conquer half the world or at least preserve the colonies by slaughtering the natives
  40. +2
    30 March 2024 10: 52
    The “humanism” of the Americans is explained not by their love of peace, but by the fear of a retaliatory strike. Especially after the successful tests of a nuclear device carried out by the USSR in 1949. It is no secret that before that moment the United States had already compiled a list of cities of the Union to be destroyed first. These guys only understand power, and they have to reckon with it.
  41. 0
    30 March 2024 14: 46
    If the United States is such a humane power, let it remove its military bases and nuclear weapons to its own territory.
    And you need to know history better, and not just be an ignorant patriot.
    The United States staged the Turkish nuclear crisis of 1961, but they didn’t bury the planet... You keep climbing everywhere, climbing...
  42. 0
    30 March 2024 15: 11
    I never had any illusions about this character.
  43. 0
    30 March 2024 17: 56
    Quote: Kmon
    Those. with a strong desire, the United States could destroy the USSR

    They couldn't, even with a big one. That's why we didn't start. And for no other reason. For example, because they are God’s chosen hegemons, as you and Musk are trying to suggest :)