Bundestag: NATO countries will not automatically become members of the conflict if one of them sends troops to Ukraine

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Bundestag: NATO countries will not automatically become members of the conflict if one of them sends troops to Ukraine

The sending of troops by one of the NATO countries to the territory of Ukraine does not make the rest of the alliance countries participants in the conflict. This conclusion was reached in the German Bundestag, German media report.

The scientific department of the German parliament came to the conclusion that NATO countries do not automatically become parties to the conflict if one of them decides to send its troops to Ukraine. In this case, this country, and by this we mean France, will act at its own peril and risk; Article 5 of the NATO Charter will not apply here.



(...) the participation of a NATO country in collective self-defense (Article 51 of the UN Charter) on behalf of Ukraine will not be a reason for the implementation of the fifth article of the Alliance Treaty

- said MP Beatrix von Storch, adding that the intervention of French troops in the conflict in Ukraine is permissible according to the UN Charter, but Article 5 of the NATO Charter on collective defense only works in the event of an attack on the alliance countries. Here we are talking about France’s own initiative.

In other words, if the French want to fight against the Russian army, then the flag is in their hands, since that is their desire. But they will fight alone, the rest of the alliance countries will not interfere in the conflict.

Let us recall that the statement of French President Emmanuel Macron about the possible dispatch of NATO troops to Ukraine was met with criticism from all members of the alliance, except the Baltic states. To date, almost all the leaders of the bloc countries have spoken negatively about this idea, refusing to send troops to Ukraine. Even in the United States they twirled their finger at their temple, commenting on the French initiative.
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  1. +6
    29 March 2024 13: 48
    Even in the United States they twirled their finger at their temple, commenting on the French initiative.
    There is no worse fool with initiative.
    1. +10
      29 March 2024 13: 52
      Uncle lee hi, my opinion, here is something else: Macron is being used as a trial balloon, Russia needs a reaction and if anything happens, then there will be some “dared souls”.
      1. +5
        29 March 2024 14: 12
        Macron is being used as a trial balloon; Russia needs a reaction and, if anything, there will be “dared souls”.

        Macron was clearly told that you will enter Ukraine at your own peril and risk, get out of it yourself and no fifth article will work... In general, if Makarosha brings military units into Ukraine, they need to be hit not childishly and first of all... Otherwise, imitators will quickly appear...
        1. +2
          29 March 2024 15: 49
          Macron is an absolute puppet; he won’t move without his master’s command. I am sure all his actions and words are directed according to plan. They will tell him to come to Ukraine - he will come. It will be necessary - they will help him, they will not abandon him. For Russia is a fierce enemy to all of them, and so far they are united. One should not think that Macron is an independent leader of the state capable of making some independent decisions in the field of foreign policy, especially in relation to the Russian Federation, this is an illusion.
      2. 0
        29 March 2024 14: 21
        Alexander hi It’s very easy...They send the little guy in, and the rest of the bastard stands in the gateway...And then he blurts out: Why are you offending the little one!
        1. 0
          29 March 2024 18: 47
          They send in the little guy, and the rest of the bastard stands in the gateway... And then he blurts out: Why are you offending the little one!

          ....and while they are waiting to intervene, Spendrick flies past them with a squeal, followed by his teeth... And then the gopota will think - is it worth interfering? wink wassat hi
          Moral - it all depends on the response to provocation
      3. +3
        29 March 2024 14: 59
        Quote: Murmur 55
        Uncle lee hi, my opinion, here is something else: Macron is being used as a trial balloon, Russia needs a reaction and if anything happens, then there will be some “dared souls”.
        In Europe they are intensely haggling over which of them will turn out to be worse. So, Macron was nominated as a candidate...

        You are right, Alexander, regarding the “trial balloon”. If they try it, they will understand how bad an idea it is. The main thing is that the French become a truly priority target and that they should be flogged in an exemplary manner.
        1. +3
          29 March 2024 15: 35
          I don't understand.
          The issue of sending the French to Donbass is so easily discussed. Actually, Donbass, according to the Constitution of the Russian Federation, is the territory of Russia.
          The question arises, where to fight them? Why in the Donbass, where they themselves will come, and why not in Provence? In this case, can we hit Provence and the Cote d'Azur?
          Europe perceives the war as somewhere far away and is fighting with expeditionary forces. They don't even think that in this case Paris is a legitimate target. And the calibration of Marcel is already a reality.

          By the way, how is Article 5 valid in this case?
          1. 0
            29 March 2024 18: 46
            Quote: BABAY22
            I don't understand.
            The issue of sending the French to Donbass is so easily discussed. Actually, Donbass, according to the Constitution of the Russian Federation, is the territory of Russia.

            As soon as they even enter the territory of Ukraine, they will be our priority target, as they were told in plain text! And they will be attacked as soon as reconnaissance detects them at the most inopportune moment for them, for example, at a location.
            In this case, can we hit Provence and the Cote d'Azur?
            Only if missiles are launched from their territory, which in theory could be carriers of nuclear weapons!
            1. +3
              29 March 2024 19: 44
              And you go there too.
              But why, if the occupier has set foot on Russian territory, then it is necessary to fight only on Russian territory? Why doesn’t Russia, in this case, have the right to transfer military operations to the territory of the occupying state (France, for example)?*

              * All statements are purely speculative and theoretical.
              1. 0
                29 March 2024 20: 00
                Specifically, France has in its arsenal nuclear weapons and means of delivering them to the client! This puts them in such a position that the enemy cannot simply strike at their territory without, in essence, starting a war with the use of nuclear weapons against his cities! The human losses will be colossal, not to mention subsequent health problems, the gene pool of the nation. This is why the West salivates at the sight of our natural resources, but cannot do anything by military means! Russia can only be destroyed from within! And which of our, so to speak, “patriots” tries the most? Here you need to take a good look and remember who they are and what they became famous for. hi
                1. +2
                  29 March 2024 20: 05
                  So you think that France can send its troops to fight in Russia, but Russia cannot send them to France, because France has nuclear weapons.
                  Interesting idea... what
                  1. 0
                    29 March 2024 20: 15
                    Quote: BABAY22
                    So you think that France can send its troops to fight in Russia, but Russia cannot send them to France, because France has nuclear weapons.

                    If he doesn’t send them according to his flag, he’ll be crap from the quiet. If, well, as an option, he sends them, then, most likely, they will first be covered with just a massive salvo of missiles, if they don’t calm down and go in columns, they will be covered with nuclear weapons somewhere on border with Poland or generally along the bridgehead, wherever it is.
              2. 0
                29 March 2024 21: 06
                Because right away you see the CSTO, etc.
                The number of "Kazakhs" who want to get caught somewhere under Cuba at the next biathlons will sharply decrease.
                France in Ukraine is no different from Russia in Syria and other Chinese in Russia
          2. 0
            29 March 2024 21: 03
            You're talking about the wrong place.
            Formally, one country invites another country - via which it arrives from a third country...
            CSTO, oh...
        2. 0
          29 March 2024 21: 02
          Then oh according to ours in Syria, Armenia, Africa and where else...
      4. +1
        29 March 2024 15: 51
        Quote: Murmur 55
        my opinion, here it’s different. Macron is being used as a trial balloon, Russia needs a reaction and if anything happens, there will be some “dared souls”.

        This is exactly what it seems to be. in any case, it is logical and very similar to the US methods of war by proxy.
        Just inspired by:
        - Quiet, timid! – the Merchant said in a deep voice. - I'll tell you what. Going as a whole class is stupid, of course. If we all go, that means we’ll all get fifth grade...
        “The die must be cast,” Mommy squeaked.
        – Maybe we should invite the oracle? – the Japanese chuckled.
        “No, timidly,” said the Merchant. – There is no need to invite the Oracle. And there is no need to draw lots either. This is what I think... I think I should go alone and take all the blame on myself.
        – Who exactly is this? – asked the Japanese.
        - Namely, you!
        - I?
        - Yes... you will go!
        This was said in the tone of a categorical order.
        The Japanese turned pale.
        (c) Republic of SHKID
  2. +1
    29 March 2024 13: 48
    NATO countries will not automatically go to war in the event of a conflict between one of them and Russia
    1. +2
      29 March 2024 14: 49
      Quote from Perun61
      NATO countries will not automatically go to war in the event of a conflict between one of them and Russia

      First France, then Poland, Romania, the Baltic states and then off we go. Someone correctly calculated Emma Makaronina.
      1. +1
        29 March 2024 21: 15
        Well yes
        <short short short>
  3. +2
    29 March 2024 13: 49
    Well, what, “friendship” is “friendship”, and the coffins are apart.
  4. +1
    29 March 2024 13: 50
    Even in the USA they twirled their finger at their temple, commenting on the French initiative. They need to twirl their finger at the macron, maybe they will understand.
    1. +3
      29 March 2024 13: 57
      Alexander 3 hi, no, the USA is standing on the “side” for now, looking at which way they should go forward, first E.S. will make a move and then as it goes, if E.S. grabs it, Washington will say we are not involved, this is their initiative, and if it’s a bad option for us, then I assure you that they will rush faster than the wind.
    2. 0
      29 March 2024 21: 37
      Quote: Alexander 3
      Even in the United States they twirled their finger at their temple, commenting on the French initiative.

      I don’t believe it was the states who “arranged Emma not to dance.” And the stupid woman fell for it, and the states sat and were thrilled, she found a stupid woman.
  5. 0
    29 March 2024 13: 51
    Let's destroy NATO one country at a time? 30 pcs - 1 per year.
    Don't touch the Baltic states for now
  6. +2
    29 March 2024 13: 54
    ... They needed an entire scientific commission of the Bundestag to read the text of the NATO charter???
    Or did they never read it, and a commission was needed to get the text in their hands?
    The fact that NOT ONE clause of the charter ensures the automatic entry into war of the alliance countries has already been written, in my opinion, on all media platforms and a million times in all social networks. networks.
    I think the Commission needs to be strengthened. Then, perhaps, she will make a breakthrough discovery: even an ATTACK on a NATO country does not automatically mean that the alliance countries will go to war. :) :) :)
    1. 0
      29 March 2024 13: 58
      will make a breakthrough discovery: even an ATTACK on a NATO country does not automatically mean that the alliance countries will go to war. :) :) :)

      This discovery has long been made.
      NATO will not go to war if Poland is attacked.
      And some NATO countries will even breathe a sigh of relief.
  7. 0
    29 March 2024 13: 56
    The French may be hoping that our missiles across Europe will not reach them. They hope in vain. Our submarine will surface in the Atlantic Ocean, dodge the Zircons in the right direction, and dive again. The others will express their sympathy.
    1. 0
      29 March 2024 14: 19
      Poplar, what are you talking about, Macron’s Olympics can’t be beaten against him. He’ll appeal to the IOC and WADA!!! hi drinks
      1. +1
        29 March 2024 16: 42
        And we won’t dope, so we don’t care about the IOC and VADAi. Let him write to Sportloto, there is a lottery there: it will fly or it won’t fly.
  8. -1
    29 March 2024 14: 00
    This does not happen and will not happen! Either you exist or you don’t! This is not the case when the flies are separate and the cutlets are separate!
    Articles 5 and others for the RF Armed Forces in the Northern Military District and the Supreme are nothing, literally, at all!
    The warning has been received, the Fu-16, as well as all other third parties, will be legitimate targets when intervening in the conflict!
    Study new military doctrine and the possible use of nuclear weapons
    in an existential threat to the state, cocks of gay Europe!
  9. -1
    29 March 2024 14: 01
    And if this initiator receives, perhaps, a vigorous loaf, what will the members do, because one of them stuck his member where it shouldn’t have been put?
    1. 0
      29 March 2024 16: 45
      Yes, you probably don’t need a vigorous loaf right away. A couple of Zircons may be enough to make you understand.
  10. 0
    29 March 2024 14: 03
    The scientific department of the German parliament concluded that
    . Well, yes, politicians listen to some departments when they want/don’t want to do something.
  11. 0
    29 March 2024 14: 05
    After the main paddling pool and the zoological coward, the pack of gay Europe has grown bolder and is experiencing
    Faberge fortress of the Supreme and General Staff with the Moscow Region.
    First of all, bring it to the Masters; they won’t hide behind an Atlantic puddle, just like on the island of tea-bread!
    The goals have been set and the Poseidons are waiting for the countdown, how much longer do you have until hour X?
    You guys didn’t know the horrors of war and all the hardships suffered by our people!
    We are a multinational, multi-confessional people - the Winner, whose genes have been absorbed with mother's milk forever and ever by our generations - the Winners, pathetic mongrels!
  12. 0
    29 March 2024 14: 11
    What sauce should be used to bomb Paris, Marseille, etc.
    1. 0
      29 March 2024 14: 36
      It doesn’t matter... the ketchup will still turn out to be like a shish kebab lol
  13. -1
    29 March 2024 14: 16
    If these scoundrels get in, then you need to hit the 5th republic itself, and without regard or feeling any sentimentality. At nuclear power plants and cities with weapons of mass destruction. Plant it so that the paddling pools are left with only glassed-in land with a wretched piece of the Eiffel Tower sticking out...
  14. +1
    29 March 2024 14: 23
    And a retaliatory strike against France will already be considered an attack on NATO territory.
    1. +1
      29 March 2024 14: 31
      Quote: aleks.29ru
      And a retaliatory strike against France will already be considered an attack on NATO territory.


      Of course, the boundaries of the ring are strictly delineated, the bets are made.
      1. 0
        29 March 2024 16: 18
        Why did it happen? France becomes a direct participant in the conflict if it officially sends its troops to the outskirts. The rest of the countries do not become participants, as these scientists write, but France just does. And then, in principle, the French military industry is a legitimate target for Russia.
        But one thing is not clear: in the event of a nuclear strike on France, will the rest be harnessed? The mattresses decided to apparently provoke an exchange of nuclear strikes between France and Russia and see what would be left of Russia and whether it would be realistic to finish it off.
  15. 0
    29 March 2024 14: 24
    Well, how can they not? If France officially sends in troops, and Belgorod is shelled from the territory of Ukraine by a French howitzer (not necessarily by French troops), Russia may regard this as an attack by France on Russian territory and strike back at French territory. and then Article 5 will come into effect.
  16. 0
    29 March 2024 14: 30
    If some NATO countries want to get hurt by Russia, then the rest of NATO countries will only be happy about it.
  17. +2
    29 March 2024 14: 33
    To begin with, they would send some Estonia to see what’s going on. It's no use anyway wink
    1. 0
      29 March 2024 15: 52
      Quote: Dutchman Michel
      To begin with, they would send some Estonia to see what’s going on. It's no use anyway wink

      Here you are wrong, Estonia is of much use, it is located on the threshold of the city of St. Petersburg...
  18. +1
    29 March 2024 14: 56
    Ohoho, then missile and bomb attacks on NATO countries are simply not war, but the prevention of Western terrorism and only laughingLet the fools endure, we are not out of malice, but for their happiness, idiots laughingWe are against terror!
  19. 0
    29 March 2024 15: 29
    it is up to us to decide who will become a party to the conflict and who will not
  20. 0
    29 March 2024 15: 51
    The sending of troops by one of the NATO countries to the territory of Ukraine does not make the rest of the alliance countries participants in the conflict. This conclusion was reached in the German Bundestag, German media report.
    Oh, Europeans, how wonderful is your union!!!!!
  21. 0
    29 March 2024 16: 39
    Will the French enter without air support? Where will this aircraft be based?
  22. +1
    29 March 2024 16: 40
    in general, the EU and the USA play their game with the Russian Federation as they want, and for this they think that nothing will happen to them!
  23. 0
    29 March 2024 17: 07
    NATO countries will not automatically become members of the conflict if one of them sends troops to Ukraine

    That's a "funny" rule............. did you just make that up? (did anyone else agree to your foolishness?)
  24. 0
    29 March 2024 17: 12
    They will become targets, automatically.
  25. 0
    29 March 2024 18: 08
    Naturally you won’t - you’ll just get it - no way laughing
  26. 0
    29 March 2024 19: 52
    Bundestag: NATO countries will not automatically become members of the conflict if one of them sends troops to Ukraine...
    participation of a NATO country in collective self-defense (Article 51 of the UN Charter) on behalf of Ukraine will not be a reason for the implementation of the fifth article of the Alliance Treaty

    We need to state it like this:
    "The entry of troops by Russia into the territory of one or more NATO countries will not be considered participation in hostilities with NATO or an attack on NATO, and will not be grounds for the activation of any NATO articles. Russia will not be considered a party to the conflict."
  27. 0
    30 March 2024 00: 54
    France is the most Jewish country after the Zionist formation. It is normal for French lackeys to make the most aggressive, suicidal, irresponsible statements.