Crocus City Hall should not be restored

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Crocus City Hall should not be restored


Mass grave in Krasnogorsk


Russia had barely begun to recover from the shock of March 22 when new stories appeared around Crocus City Hall.



Emin Agalarov, representing Agalarov Development, announced the potential possibility of restoring the concert hall building. The approximate amount of costs was announced - about $150 million. Emin based the cost of building the complex at 70 million as of 2009. Inflation and difficulties in finding equipment, some of which is now sanctioned, can raise the final cost of restoration by several tens of millions of dollars.

One can only sympathize with the Agalarov family, given the collateral status of the burned building. According to Emin, Crocus City Hall is now pledged to Gazprombank. It is unknown what the future fate of this asset will be - the bank has the right to demand new real estate as collateral.

We must pay tribute, the Agalarovs donated 100 million rubles to the victims of the terrorist attack. According to experts, the final damage to the concert hall from the terrorist attack could amount to 12 billion rubles. In the best case, insurance will cover 1/40 of the amount of damage, as Kommersant reports.

In the worst case, no one will pay anything at all - the terrorist attack will be considered as a non-insured event. At the moment, a final decision on the fate of the destroyed building has not been made - Emin Agalarov refers to the decision of the president, the head of the Moscow region and the people of Russia. They say that whatever they decide together, so it will be.

Without pretending to be the voice of the people, we will try to express our opinion.

First of all, it is worth turning to the tragedy itself. Let us recall that in terms of the number of victims, the shooting and burning of people in Crocus City Hall surpassed the shockingly brutal events at Dubrovka in 2002.

It is the worst terrorist attack in Russia in decades, excluding the Beslan school siege in 2004, where 333 people were killed. The terrorist attack on Dubrovka resulted in large casualties, but the building received virtually no damage.

As a result, the authorities limited themselves to a memorial plaque and a complex near the theater, which includes a stele with the temple of Methodius and Cyril. Of course, a worthy perpetuation of the memory of those killed at the hands of terrorists. The memorial stands modestly and does not catch the eye of tourists and visitors. Go and understand when and for what purpose the temple of Methodius and Cyril was erected - for this you need to take the time to read the inscription in small handwriting on the facade.

The theater center on Dubrovka did not seem to feel the past tragedy. People still receive guests here and stage theatrical performances.

After all, why not demolish a fully operational theater and put a memorial in its place so that it can be seen from any part of Moscow?

There is no particular desire here to promote a Western approach, but look at how the memory of those killed in New York in the September 11, 2001 terrorist attack was immortalized. Here, even if you want to, you won’t forget.




Memorial in New York at the site of the Twin Towers

Indicative of story “Winter cherry”, which claimed 60 people, of which 37 were children. On the site of the destroyed shopping center, a park was laid out with a small memorial and a chapel - otherwise it is an ordinary city recreation area.

While Kemerovo residents do not need to once again be reminded of the tragedy of six years ago, but the years are flying by, and future generations will have to conduct separate excursions to the “Park of Angels.” And no one could even think about restoring the infamous shopping center.

But Emin Agalarov “for creation, for restoration.”

What are we ashamed of?


Should we limit ourselves to a modest memorial plaque on the façade of a new building? Or put a modest chapel at a distance?

You can set up a park somewhere further away, plant 143 pine/birch/maple trees and calm down. And in the new Crocus City Mall, buzzers will conduct tours on social networks: “Here the first person was shot,” “Here a wheelchair user covered his wife with his body,” and “Here a whole family died at once.” Performances by Russian “vocal and instrumental ensembles” at the site where 143 people died from bullets, smoke and fumes will look like dancing on bones. No less - no more.

Do you want this?

Finance is finance, but businessmen should not think exclusively about profit. It is not clear how the average Russian would raise his hand to applaud an artist in a place where women and children were bleeding to death.

If you really want to, then compensate the Agalarovs for all costs and put something mind-blowing in place of Crocus City Hall. The state budget will not be much poorer from this. Hire the best architects, hold a public consultation, but don't waste everything on analogues of parks and modest chapels. The memorial should become a cultural value, appear in textbooks and express all the grief of those who survived after 22.03.2024/XNUMX/XNUMX. Grief for not being saved, not being prevented.

And to potential terrorists who will probably have to pass by, the memorial should inspire primitive horror. So that they no longer think about mortal sins with a single cell of their body.

Yes, those who walk past the memorial will not be in the mood for entertainment and unnecessary shopping in local shopping centers. But times have changed. It’s time to eradicate the idleness that we still allow ourselves. The country has long been involved in a global conflict, and the terrorist attack at Crocus City Hall is part of this hellish plan.

As soon as we forget about this, we will lose ourselves, and with it our chances of Victory.


Theater on Dubrovka. Memorial.

The main memorial to those who died on March 22, 2024, will, of course, not be a memorial complex, but the inevitability of revenge.

Retribution for the curators of terrorists from Ukraine, from ISIS banned in Russia and other sham companies. Until the last of those involved in the terrorist act receives his life sentence, the slap in the face the country has received cannot be erased from memory.
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  1. +18
    April 1 2024 05: 11
    But Emin Agalarov “for creation, for restoration.”
    Dancing on the bones...Like hell, the money is invested!
    1. +39
      April 1 2024 05: 34
      Quote from Uncle Lee
      But Emin Agalarov “for creation, for restoration.”
      Dancing on the bones...Like hell, the money is invested!

      This is not all the questions about gross violations of fire safety requirements have been answered by the family. Many people note the increased elaboration of the topic...
      1. +27
        April 1 2024 07: 26
        The automatic fire extinguishing system in Crocus City Hall did not meet fire safety requirements, which doubled the number of victims of the terrorist attack. The security service of the concert hall worked at one on a five-point scale: the hall was equipped with a video surveillance system, but no one observed the actions of the terrorists, and did not promptly transmit information to law enforcement agencies about the actions of the terrorists, which led to the fact that firefighters began to extinguish the fire after By the time it was too late to put out the fire, the concert hall staff was unable to organize people.
        Conclusion: The Agalarovs saved money on the safety of people in order to make a profit.
        Muscovites do not care deeply about the welfare of the Agalarov family.
        The people must decide what will happen at the site of the tragedy.
        1. +3
          April 1 2024 08: 57
          The Safe City system should also work. That is, video cameras from Crocus itself, or at least from the square in front of it, had to be connected there.
          1. +7
            April 1 2024 09: 17
            The Safe City system should also work.
            It just doesn't make any sense. The authorities will have the opportunity to look anywhere, at the owner’s expense, but they certainly won’t react promptly. It seems to me that they simply do not have the strength and means. Your energy is wasted on unsubscribing, and your funds go “you know where.” How will they cope with terrorists when a family of drunkards has been terrorizing the house for many years, and the authorities have only given notice?! That's right - no way. Even if they introduce army patrols with a curfew, the streets will become calmer.
            1. +3
              April 1 2024 09: 39
              "How will they cope with terrorists when a family of drunks has been terrorizing the house for many years, and the authorities have only given notice?!"- with terrorists it is both more difficult and easier at the same time.
              Drunks don’t rise above the administrative level, they don’t have money for fines, closing them for 15 days doesn’t make a difference. Tightening the punishment - 1) can hit normal people, 2) will introduce them closely to the criminal world, which will further complicate the situation.
              "Even if they introduce army patrols with a curfew, the streets will become calmer." the army, taking into account the territory of the Russian Federation, will have to be increased by 5-10 times. Even in the USSR, army patrols went to single cities.
              1. +8
                April 1 2024 09: 56
                Quote: your1970
                “Even if they introduce army patrols with a curfew, the streets will become calmer.” the army, taking into account the territory of the Russian Federation, will have to be increased by 5-10 times. Even in the USSR, army patrols went out in isolated cities.

                What you have with the numbers and the facts is unspeakable nonsense. In the USSR, wherever there were units within the city, there were always patrols, more often or less often, but always, this is part of the garrison service! Accordingly, the figure of -5-10 times is frankly idiotic. What, SA was 11-22 million, or what?
                1. +5
                  April 1 2024 13: 08
                  “What you have with the numbers and the facts is unspeakable nonsense.” - Well, as usual, without reading your opponents, you immediately throw hysterics.

                  For you I remind - that the military units were in sufficient condition small number of settlements, and for example, no more than 8 patrols were assigned from the garrison to the city of Saratov (600 population).
                  Moreover, the task of these patrols was to control especially hot places for soldiers, such as a post office and a telephone conversation point.Exclusively soldier...
                  My opponent wants "Army patrols will be introduced with a curfew" - you understand that he wants them A LOT and EVERYWHERE and not just in Moscow?
                  From my personal experience, when in 1995-97 there was a threat of a possible attack on our military town (15 houses of 2-3 floors and a little private sector), we had patrols - 5 each with 2 machine gunners and 2 patrols with a machine gun.
                  And based on the results of the exercises, it was established that this is not enough when attempting an attack, even from 2 sides. Even without taking into account possible infiltration.
                  How many patrols are needed to at least decorate the curfew in Saratov? So let it be REAL curfew and not declaratively????
                  500 - 1000 people at a time???
                  And so That's why I'm talking about "The army, taking into account the territory of the Russian Federation, will have to be increased by 5-10 times." if you impose a curfew for real
                  1. +1
                    April 1 2024 17: 16
                    Quote: your1970
                    Well, as usual, without reading your opponents, you immediately throw hysterics.

                    What hysteria? A very correct reaction to the stupidest nonsense. Or are these not your words?

                    Quote: your1970
                    Even in the USSR, army patrols went out in isolated cities.


                    Quote: your1970
                    no more than 8 patrols for the city of Saratov (population 600).
                    Moreover, the task of these patrols was to control especially hot places for soldiers, such as a post office and a telephone conversation point. Exclusively soldiers...

                    Or are you going to talk nonsense that there were less than ten cities with a population of 600 or more people in the USSR? Or maybe you will rub in that in cities with a population of less than 000 there were no telephone offices or post offices?

                    Quote: your1970
                    Let me remind you that military units were in a fairly small number of settlements
                    Let me remind you that you don’t understand the simplest things or pretend that you don’t understand. Even in the unfortunate 50 there were one or two parts, not to mention the suburbs.


                    Quote: your1970
                    From my personal experience, when in 1995-97 there was a threat of a possible attack on our military town (15 houses of 2-3 floors and a little private sector), we had patrols - 5 each with 2 machine gunners and 2 patrols with a machine gun.
                    And based on the results of the exercises, it was established that this is not enough when trying to attack even from 2 sides.
                    Most likely, observing your lack of understanding of the simplest things, you have distorted the numbers and tasks. But even if they didn’t misrepresent, I will inform you that the patrol’s task does not include repelling an attack.


                    Quote: your1970
                    How many patrols are needed to at least decorate the curfew in Saratov? So this should be a REAL curfew and not a declarative one????
                    500 - 1000 people at a time???
                    Patrol - 3 people, in Saratov there are 2200 streets, 10 streets per patrol - 660 people, not counting the police. For a thousand Saratovs - 660 people. But you seem to imagine that 000*8 is the limit for a city with a dozen parts within its boundaries...
                    And the curfew becomes real when there is a real punishment for violating it.
                    You don’t understand the simplest numbers and things, or you pretend that you don’t understand.
                    1. +2
                      April 1 2024 19: 57
                      "Even in the unfortunate 50 there were one or two parts, not to mention the suburbs" for you personally - in the Saratov Trans-Volga region under the USSR there was a helicopter regiment in Ozinki, a training helicopter regiment in Pugachev and several units in Engels (including strategists). That's it... Between Ozinki and Engels there are 270 km and a bunch of settlements - WITHOUT military units.
                      Now I don’t know about Engels whether there are any units left there or not except for the strategists, in Ozinki our regiment was cut down in 1998. In fact, 1 regiment in Pugachev for the ENTIRE Volga region
                      "cities with ten units within..." there are now about 2 dozen such cities in the Russian Federation, no more.... And even then there probably won’t be
                      "by 10 streets on patrol - 660 people, "- and do you seriously think that 3 people in 10 streets can SERIOUSLY support the curfew? And they will be able to ensure the capture of all violators on 10 streets simultaneously three of us to make it -
                      “Does a curfew become real when there is a real punishment for violating it?”?
                      Well, come on, continue to believe in miracles - I won’t bother you.

                      Z.Y.
                      “But even if they didn’t misrepresent, I will inform you that the patrol’s task does not include repelling an attack.”
                      Since the prices for the heads of our helicopter pilots started from 50 bucks and this was serious, the task of the patrols was set to “detain unknown unarmed people, shoot at any unknown armed people without warning to kill.”
                      The order of the Ministry of Defense was in 4 parts with such a regime, with such features of service. In 1997 the order was canceled.
                      1. 0
                        April 2 2024 05: 06
                        Quote: your1970
                        That's it... Between Ozinki and Engels there are 270 km and a bunch of settlements - WITHOUT a military unit.

                        Of course, you had all the information about what was there in the surrounding area. Well, you understand who I think you are...

                        Quote: your1970
                        "cities with a dozen parts within..." there are now about 2 dozen such cities in the Russian Federation, no more... And even then there probably won’t be
                        What is your relationship with the simplest numbers... You started with this idiocy.
                        Quote: your1970
                        Even in the USSR, army patrols went out in isolated cities.

                        Well, you understand who I think you are.


                        Quote: your1970
                        “10 streets per patrol - 660 people,” - and do you seriously think that 3 people per 10 streets can SERIOUSLY support the curfew? And they will be able to ensure the capture of all violators on 10 streets at the same time with three people to do it -
                        The fact that you don’t know how to count is understandable. 660 is 000 (six hundred million) thousand Saratov. In Russia there are several, 600 times, fewer people. Well, without taking into account the police and the National Guard. And the fact that you don’t understand the essence of the curfew and the actions of the patrol is already understandable, after the stupidity about
                        Quote: your1970
                        We had 5 patrols with 2 machine gunners and 2 patrols with a machine gun.
                        And based on the results of the exercises, it was established that this is not enough when trying to attack even from 2 sides.



                        Quote: your1970
                        “Unknown unarmed people should be detained, any unknown armed people should be shot without warning.”
                        Well, this is pure nonsense, in plain sight.
                      2. +1
                        April 2 2024 06: 54
                        “Of course, you had all the information about what was there in the surrounding area. Well, you understand who I think you are...” - since I lived in the Saratov Trans-Volga region for 54 years, unlike you, I know where our military units and any. There was no top secret in this from birth - the local population knew, knows and will always know it.
                        If this is a great secret for you - belay lol
                        I gave the number of patrols in Saratov in 1988.
                        Do you think that 1 patrol for 10 city streets is good?
                        "660 is 000 (six hundred million) thousand Saratov." - It’s understandable that you don’t know how to count.
                        “Well, this is pure nonsense, in plain sight.” - unlike you, I was on these patrols. Since the regiment was a helicopter regiment, the year was 1996, and the Ministry of Defense understood the seriousness of the threat - this OUT depending on your adequacy/inadequacy - it was.

                        However, after your slogan about “10 streets to patrol and the reality of punishment for violations,” I consider it pointless to talk further.
                        Over the 7 years of service, the patrol checked my documents in Moscow, Ashgabat, Yekaterinburg, Kazan and Samara. This was always at the railway station. In no other city - except these - did I ever come across a patrol. Moreover, in these cities - in the city - I never came across a patrol.
                      3. 0
                        April 2 2024 06: 58
                        You are neither able to do the math nor tell a plausible lie.
                        Quote: your1970
                        the army, taking into account the territory of the Russian Federation, will have to be increased by 5-10 times. Even in the USSR, army patrols went out in isolated cities.

                        Dullness as it is.
                      4. 0
                        April 2 2024 07: 04
                        “Stupidity as it is.” - Your right to consider me whoever you want.

                        Thank God - that I can’t baptize children with you, don’t sit on the same hectare and don’t lie in the same cemetery.
                    2. 0
                      April 2 2024 19: 47
                      But then the patrols must be armed with service firearms. Must have the right to use these weapons. And bear criminal liability for the consequences of its unlawful use. In the USSR, patrols were not armed. Now here’s a question for you: a soldier serves for one year! He must master the VUS and also know the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation and the Code of Criminal Procedure of the Russian Federation by heart, and even the instructions on the use of automatic weapons in the city. In one year?
                      1. 0
                        April 3 2024 03: 18
                        Quote: Alex 22 22
                        Now here’s a question for you: a soldier serves for one year!
                        Do not write nonsense.
                        What about the patrol chief? In addition, the introduction of a curfew sharply reduces the legal threshold for the use of weapons.
              2. +4
                April 1 2024 15: 35
                Even in the USSR, army patrols went to isolated cities
                But the teaching staff went, today you won’t get enough.
                1. +1
                  April 1 2024 15: 44
                  "But the teaching staff went, today you won’t be bothered]" - well, not only “damned bureaucrats and corrupt officials” were laid off in 2000-10, this also affected the cops.....
                  Z.y
                  The impossibility of quoting has already taken its toll.
                  Z.y.z.y
                  Have you read about Yurkevich? Either TASS was joking or belay belay ...
        2. +5
          April 1 2024 17: 37
          Are you, dear, attacking business, you were told that they spent 100 million to get away with it and they will get it out, they are heroes of capitalist labor, since it is their political system that will protect them, and we are slaves and at our expense they are fattening, with USSR, I was a slave of the state and I didn’t mind, now we are slaves of private individuals and they pay us as they wish, but of course they will not offend themselves and I am against the exploitation of man by man, but alas, this is now called business, profit from your neighbor, speculate, rip off, cheat. And in life, it’s like in a chicken coop - peck your neighbor, shit on the one below. And if you are not at the trough, you will live from paycheck to paycheck and it’s not a fact that it won’t end soon, there are no guarantees and stability in the future...
      2. +5
        April 1 2024 07: 55
        And he won't answer. No matter how much we would like to. Unfortunately
      3. +7
        April 1 2024 09: 11
        This is not all the questions about gross violations of fire safety requirements have been answered by the family.
        There's a lot there. And the warning system was not activated and the guards, who did not die, fled. People were escorted out by underage workers. But all it took was a couple of security guards to monitor the situation using cameras and direct people through the public address system. After all, it should be zone. It was not necessary to broadcast to the entire center. And the smoke exhaust did not work and the doors did not open automatically. Yes, there are a lot of things that the average person who has just picked up a little of these “wisdoms” will notice.
    2. -3
      April 1 2024 07: 05
      In the 1970s, in our microdistrict, 3 3-story houses were built on a very old city cemetery that was closed before the war. Then, near them, in the same cemetery, a bunch of garages were built. Then in 90-2000-2010, more garages were built there.
      No matter how much the roads are bottled up there, everything goes away, apparently the loosened soil absorbs everything. Because of this, half of the garages have long been abandoned.
      "Dancing on the bones..." - so there’s nothing new in our country, it’s always been like that in our country.
      1. +10
        April 1 2024 08: 24
        All modern outskirts stand on bones. The dead were buried for centuries near villages, without any regulation of burial places.
  2. +10
    April 1 2024 05: 16
    Should we limit ourselves to a modest memorial plaque on the façade of a new building? Or put a modest chapel at a distance?


    The article is fair, people are obsessed with money.
    P.S. The "Nord-Ost" building on Dubrovka, where many hostages were captured and died, was not demolished and some New Year's holidays and similar events are still held there. Money doesn't smell.
  3. +8
    April 1 2024 05: 19
    “The theater center on Dubrovka did not seem to feel the past tragedy. People still receive guests here and stage theatrical performances.”


    — “Bohemians” have a clear bias towards Satanism...
  4. +20
    April 1 2024 05: 34
    It’s a double feeling, taking the same park of angels in Kemerovo; in principle, everything has been done to ensure that the tragedy is forgotten as quickly as possible. The memorial stone stands in the very corner and is covered by a bench; those who don’t know and just walk along won’t even notice it. They say the names of the dead are engraved inside the chapel, but I didn’t go in; in principle, nothing at all says that there was some kind of tragedy. They wanted to erect a monument depicting a tree, but they didn’t allow it, so why the park of angels? Because 37 children died? Aren't adults angels? Why not winter cherry? In short, the same questions. As a result, we got a place for walking, swings, and you can drink beer on the benches, the atmosphere of tragedy is not felt from the word at all... They did a more correct thing in Beslan, leaving the ruins of the gym as a real monument, they did not demolish it, but left the gym as is. I honestly don’t know what to do instead of Crocus City, I don’t want to turn the city into a cemetery, but I also don’t want people to forget about the tragedy, so it’s important to find that middle ground....
  5. +4
    April 1 2024 05: 40
    "Crocus" is not a critical infrastructure facility - it does not need to be restored. Donbass is waiting for money and builders to restore the wounds of the war. The resources of the Russian Federation are limited.

    Moscow could allocate a plot of land to the Agallarovs commensurate with the cost of Crocus.
    And this would close the financial issues of the family and Gazprombank. Now business is closely monitoring the position of the state. International terrorism is here to stay. If, as a result of terror, “projects” are massively curtailed, those who ordered the murders will multiply attacks.
    1. +2
      April 1 2024 10: 30
      "Moscow could allocate a plot of land to the Agallarovs commensurate with the cost of Crocus." Comparable to the cost of Crocus that the insurance company calculates. And preferably beyond the Arctic Circle. With this attitude towards people, let the polar bears be entertained.
    2. +4
      April 1 2024 15: 07
      I don’t understand why Moscow should “allocate a plot of land to the Agallarovs commensurate with the cost of Crocus.” Should we highlight those who built the hall from combustible materials and did not take care of fire safety and security measures? And those who had to monitor what materials were used in the construction of the hall should not be held accountable for their, at best, negligence?
    3. +3
      April 1 2024 15: 39
      Moscow could allocate a plot of land to the Agallarovs commensurate with the cost of Crocus.
      According to some reports, the Agalarovs suffered losses from Crocus. They benefit from a terrorist attack; insurance will cover the “costs.”
      1. +2
        April 1 2024 20: 36
        Wow. The theory is almost cooler than the one in which Putin is the main organizer of the terrorist attack.
  6. +31
    April 1 2024 05: 49
    Now the main thing is to deal with the problem of migration. We will erect monuments later. This is evil, uncontrolled migration and this “state” within the state must be destroyed
    1. +17
      April 1 2024 07: 02
      Now the main thing is to deal with the problem of migration.


      +100. Agree.

      I would like to see information from investigative authorities:
      - How did the detained terrorists get to Russia?
      - At what construction site were these “qualified personnel” supposed to work?
      - where did you get the documents for the opportunity to stay in Russia?
      - Which authority issued the documents?
      - What was the basis for issuing documents?
      - which official issued the documents for the opportunity to stay on the territory of Russia?
      - What punishment will the official who issued documents allowing terrorists to stay on Russian territory receive?
      - what organizational measures will be taken in the field of migration policy to prevent terrorists from entering Russian territory?
      - Etc.
    2. +1
      April 1 2024 20: 27
      "
      Now the main thing is to deal with the problem of migration.

      Necessary. Only this will change little.
      It is necessary to change in principle the attitude towards the former fraternal republics. They teach in their schools that the Russian oppressors and all the troubles come from us.
      Ah, these are the laws we have.
      "Today the focus is on the story of two women who arrived in our country from Tajikistan. The difference between them is that one of them is 94 year old Russian grandmother, who moved in her old age to Chelyabinsk, to whom, from the generosity of our state, she was appointed pension of 2500 rubles, and the other, Tajik, the second wife of the father of one of the terrorists who attacked Crocus City Hall, demanding pension payments from Russia."

      https://ok.ru/nezhaleyun/topic/157280606112660
      I can’t even imagine how to comment on this. Crime in both cases or as always?
  7. +19
    April 1 2024 06: 00
    As for me, Agalarov should sit next to the terrorists in the dock. And he's not the only one of his gang. And it is necessary to judge with all aggravating factors...
    1. +13
      April 1 2024 10: 19
      As for me, Agalarov should sit next to the terrorists in the dock.
      Yeah, hope so. With such proposals, you will be jailed faster, for discrediting anything, or even given a grenade to “play with.”
  8. +3
    April 1 2024 06: 02
    you have to be elite in order to build the Temple on the Blood at the site of the death of one, and who are these 150, at the site of whose death they will build a complex for fun, a Sabbath and a bazaar? Well, they’ll put a sign there and that’s it?
    Would you say that among the dead and among the mourners today, half are atheists, and the remaining half are also Muslims? So after all, the one who is going to rebuild a bazaar for fun at the site of the death of these 150, he is also a Muslim! This means that there will be a bazaar and a Sabbath of fun at the place where these non-elite people died, and somewhere there will be a sign about their death. The market came first and in their blood!
    In the future, when I'm in Krasnogorsk, I'll have to try to find this sign there. Although it will be hard, there is a coven, a market and fun all around, and my eyesight is no longer the same, I am not young...
    1. +1
      April 1 2024 20: 40
      Quote: north 2
      So after all, the one who is going to rebuild a bazaar for fun at the site of the death of these 150, he is also a Muslim!

      What kind of Muslim is that? It seems to me that there are 20 percent of people who sincerely believe in at least something in Russia, God willing (ha ha, I’m writing this as an atheist). Others simply perform rituals because it’s more common: their ancestors taught them. And this same Easter why not eat Easter cakes?
      I believe the picture is similar in other more or less developed countries.
  9. +15
    April 1 2024 06: 02
    All that remains is to sympathize with the Agalarov family
    What is there to sympathize with? I am sure that the investigation will not show the necessary integrity, but it would be worth establishing whether this building was built and operated with gross violations of fire safety on their orders. More people died from fire than from bullets, 2 times. What they are donating now is ransom money. They must be PROHIBITED from restoring the burnt part of the building, declaring it a mass burial site.
  10. +7
    April 1 2024 06: 03
    I still don’t understand why the author suggests not restoring the crocus.

    I am more concerned about the question: will the state somehow control migrants from Central Asia? Will Russia stop issuing citizenship to them?
    1. +13
      April 1 2024 07: 47
      On the first question. The country is at war. What kind of entertainment? Do the artists want to go on stage? Please, with concerts to the front.
      According to the second... Most likely nothing will change. One, at the top, as always, has nothing to do with it. Others, of a lower rank, make money from this. Curtain
      1. +10
        April 1 2024 09: 22
        On the first question. The country is at war. What kind of entertainment? Do the artists want to go on stage? Please, with concerts to the front.
        By the way, many people go. They give free concerts for the wounded. They don’t interfere on stage, they help our fighters. Many people go, but I remember Chicherina.
        1. +3
          April 1 2024 09: 37
          Honor and praise to them. The main thing is that it comes from their hearts
      2. +1
        April 1 2024 11: 48
        I, personally, consider the question of what to build on the Crocus Hall site to be secondary; first of all, it should be decided by the relatives of the victims. I risk incurring the disapproval of VO commentators. but the issue of tightening IKW migration will not help solve the problem. Experience has shown that the SBU also finds its agents among the indigenous population (Trepova, Vovk, sabotage on the railway). The fundamental question is to find the organizers and punish them. The authorities showed that they understand this issue: Putin frowned. Yesterday evening, a statement from the Ministry of Foreign Affairs appeared regarding find and punish. I quote him on the channel Information support of the President of Russia
      3. +2
        April 1 2024 20: 43
        Quote from: dmi.pris1
        The country is at war. What kind of entertainment? Do artists want to go on stage?

        I'm not at war, and I guess you aren't either. Regular entertainment - what is called "fresh content" of musical origin. Both the artists want it and the public wants it.
        Quote from: dmi.pris1
        According to the second... Most likely nothing will change. One, at the top, as always, has nothing to do with it. Others, of a lower rank, make money from this. Curtain

        I agree here. It is unlikely that there will be fundamental changes. There are simply no economic prerequisites for them.
    2. +3
      April 1 2024 10: 09
      I still don’t understand why the author suggests not restoring the crocus.
      Can you guess three times who will restore?
      That's right, several thousand “very valuable” terrorist specialists will also be brought in for this case.
  11. +14
    April 1 2024 06: 31
    We must pay tribute, the Agalarovs donated 100 million rubles to the victims of the terrorist attack.
    $1 today. Basically paid off...
  12. +4
    April 1 2024 06: 42
    I believe that it is necessary to erect a memorial in this place with part of the destroyed building, as a reminder to the younger generation and a warning to hunters before terrorist attacks. For example: in Belgrade, a television center destroyed by the NATO coalition was left as a memory. It is immoral to build something new for leisure on the site of such a tragedy.
    1. 0
      April 1 2024 07: 50
      Warning to hunters of terrorist attacks - liquidation. About immoral. Gathering for a concert in a warring country, this is really immoral. Sentence above
      1. +11
        April 1 2024 10: 05
        "Going to a concert in a warring country is truly immoral."- you stick a little you bend it. Otherwise it will turn out Your theories that the USSR in the much more terrible year of 1941 - with an average of 11 dead military personnel per day - was many times more immoral. Because he was filming comedies in the fall of 000 and concerts were held throughout the country, even in besieged Leningrad.
        But this is not so and morality has absolutely nothing to do with it.
        People, now or then, need to be distracted from the war, regardless of the type of power. Reduce nervousness and psychosis among the population. It was simpler then - they limited the information to Sovinformburo reports and that’s it, now this is impossible.
        1. +2
          April 1 2024 14: 57
          There is no equality between the situations of the Second World War and today. Incomparably different mechanisms. Business does not distract from war, its goal is personal profit, luring people with pleasures as bait. Shostakovich's 7th Symphony in Leningrad was not performed as a distraction, but for the spiritual enrichment of people. “Everything for victory” and “I want everything, here and now” are very different. And that morality has nothing to do with it is not true; different organisms have different morals (about business and the population). And that information is now unlimited is completely naive.
          1. +5
            April 1 2024 16: 18
            “And that information is not limited now is completely naive.” local marshals poked at me here I do not go to the Ukrovsky Tlg-channels. They say it is necessary to receive information from the enemy too...
            Now imagine that during the Second World War the population of the USSR is easy, free and at ease reads (!!!) and discusses (!!!) "Völkischer Beobachter" and watching Wochenschau???
            Submitted?
            Limited now information? Oh well.....

            "Shostakovich's 7th Symphony in Leningrad was not performed as a distraction, but for the spiritual enrichment of people. " - this is an indisputable fact, as is the fact that the only one(!!!) not evacuated theater - Musical comedy theater.
            Operetta....

            The authorities understood perfectly well that people needed to lift their spirits and give them to be distracted from the horror of war

            “Everything for victory” and “I want everything, here and now” are very different.” - of course, different. Therefore, during the year and a half of the Siege, about 21 cases of banditry (armed!!!!) were registered in Leningrad and the Leningrad region.
            That is, at least 50 with weapons in their hands “everyone wanted, here and now” - this taking into account the fact that they could be shot on the spot without questions.
            There have always been, are and will be people who go over their heads to their own personal happiness.
            And now...
            During the Nord Ost, some taxi drivers charged five times the fare from those who were able to escape from there at the first moment. They wrote about this then.
          2. +1
            April 1 2024 20: 47
            Quote: Alexander Ra
            And that information is now unlimited is completely naive.

            I just can’t understand those people who themselves advocate introducing restrictions on the development of their own minds. In the end, you don’t need any information, so don’t accept it. Why limit those who are interested? Also, what if you yourself want to read something from the other side?
  13. +12
    April 1 2024 07: 23
    Compensate? Isn’t it destiny to conduct an investigation for violations of fire safety rules?
    1. 0
      April 1 2024 15: 42
      The Jew Agalarov is too influential to be investigated.
  14. +17
    April 1 2024 07: 27
    The whole crocus is simply huge! What are you talking about here? Will the giant shopping center stand with a piece cut off? There are hundreds of shops, an aquarium and a lot of other things, a metro station was built for it! Do you really believe that they will just leave it all or dismantle it and the expensive land right on the Moscow Ring Road will stand empty? Yes, in a couple of years, some non-Slavic surname will buy it and he wanted to sneeze, what was there, he will cut off some thread of the LCD. Everyone is just so naive, what country do you live in, you don’t know how everything is done here
    1. +2
      April 1 2024 08: 44
      Everything is correct! It’s just that now the authorities are waiting for the passions to subside and the investigation to take place. Then they will start to destroy this land.
      1. +1
        April 1 2024 20: 49
        And the most interesting thing is that the majority of those who are now writing about their principled position directed against this will no longer be against it at all.
  15. +8
    April 1 2024 07: 31
    Today I read the news... Our former governor of the Chelyabinsk region, Yurevich, had assets worth 100 trillion rubles seized what ..this is with the governor... recourse ....And I’m afraid of what Agalarov actually owns, but I just can’t imagine feel ...How can their conscience allow them to cry!? ... They allocated as much as 100 million rubles...
    1. man
      +7
      April 1 2024 08: 53
      Today I read the news... Our former governor of the Chelyabinsk region, Yurevich, had assets worth 100 trillion rubles seized. What... is this the governor's...
      Actually, 100 trillion rubles is more than a trillion dollars! In my opinion, this is a clear exaggeration. The Rothschilds are worth around $3,5 trillion.
      It seems to me that Yurevich is still not drawn to Rothschild smile
      1. +2
        April 1 2024 10: 12
        "The Rothschilds are worth about $3,5 trillion.
        It seems to me that Yurevich is still not akin to Rothschild." Rothschild is a homeless person compared to Yurevich belay - there really are 100 trillion in the accounts, as TASS reported. But there’s a lot more besides the dough

        “In addition, as follows from the documents, copies of which are at TASS’s disposal, to secure the claim of the Civil Prosecutor of the Russian Federation, by decision of the Central District Court of Chelyabinsk, 100% of the shares of such companies as First Bread Factory, Makfa, SMAK, Novaya five-year plan", "Dolgovskoye" (shares owned by Natalya Petrasheva and Natalya Yurevich, as well as the private Cypriot company "Sula Granti LTD"), shares of "Chelyabinskoblgaz" owned by Yurevich's relative and son-in-law of Belousov, as well as shares of "Arcom" and PJSC "Kalanchak plant" bakery products" owned by the Dutch company "MGC International B.V. (MGC International BV)."
        1. +1
          April 1 2024 20: 51
          Quote: your1970
          There really are 100 trillion in the accounts, as TASS reported.

          Come on, some nonsense.
          Here are the data on the federal budget from the State Duma website:
          Revenues in 2024 will amount to 35 trillion rubles, in 2025 - 33,5 trillion rubles, in 2026 - 34,1 trillion rubles.
          1. 0
            April 2 2024 05: 41
            Я verbatim quoted TASS. If they were joking or they were hacked, then this is not for me. Kommersant also published it with reference to TASS.
  16. +5
    April 1 2024 07: 47
    They donated 100 million. If they had not been rednecks, and maintained security that corresponded to the realities, then not only would they not have had to sacrifice 100 lyams, but they would have continued to mow down the loot.
    1. man
      +1
      April 1 2024 09: 06
      and they would continue to mow down the money.
      I read that after the start of SVO, Crocus became unprofitable.
  17. +5
    April 1 2024 07: 48
    They will restore it and will perform and walk. You'll see. It’s just that all this is creepy, then you can immediately make a concert venue in the cemetery, for example on Novodevichy, but there are already a lot of people coming, but here they will completely trample on it. Involuntarily, you begin to think whether the “last times” are coming? There is nothing sacred left at all. Well, the author turned up the heat, tourists can’t see the memorial complex on Dubrovka. There is no need to click cameras; there is definitely no place for a tribute to the dead and the curious.
    1. +6
      April 1 2024 09: 11
      One inevitably begins to think whether the “last times” are coming? There's nothing sacred left at all

      + 1000!!!
    2. -1
      April 1 2024 10: 09
      It’s just that all this is creepy, then you can immediately make a concert venue in the cemetery

      Why go far? There is Red Square.
  18. +5
    April 1 2024 07: 52
    Another thing is interesting - who are the guys in the same blue sweaters who ran through the forest and detained the terrorists, why the shot car does not have bullet holes on the body and the glass is intact, 4 hours drive to the border (300 km) there was not a single traffic police post, why terrorists the special forces immediately detained, and not the traffic police (they were driving behind them in a trailer) why is there not a single video from the Crocus City CCTV cameras, why did the fire extinguishing system not work
    1. +2
      April 1 2024 08: 00
      The Reptilians and Brothers of Zion ordered this
  19. +14
    April 1 2024 07: 59
    With this author’s logic, St. Petersburg needs to be razed to the ground, in memory of those killed in the siege.
    1. +4
      April 1 2024 12: 55
      Quote: RussianPatriot
      With this author’s logic, St. Petersburg needs to be razed to the ground, in memory of those killed in the siege.
      That's for sure. In St. Petersburg, Talkov was killed in Yubileiny, but no one gives tours, or the dressing room where this happened is not boarded up. There's just a memorial plaque hanging at the entrance. And such concerts took place afterwards, Mother Don’t Cry - Alice, the King and the Jester and many others
    2. +1
      April 1 2024 20: 54
      By the way, I heard the legend that Churchill proposed not to rebuild Stalingrad. Let it, they say, be a monument city.
  20. +5
    April 1 2024 08: 22
    Eh, author... Do you remember the quote from Marx about capital and profit? It's about Moscow land and real estate there. The profits from every square decimeter in Moscow are enormous. Maybe they will stick a sign on it, maybe they won’t, but they will never stop receiving profits from this land.
  21. +2
    April 1 2024 08: 26
    I definitely support the author. But, unfortunately, there is very little hope for prudence. Loot rules.
  22. 0
    April 1 2024 08: 42
    One of the consequences of Luzhkov’s activities, who destroyed the Rossiya Hotel and at the same time a concert hall with 2,5 thousand seats.
  23. +10
    April 1 2024 08: 58
    “If you really want to, then compensate the Agalarovs for all costs and put something mind-blowing in place of Crocus City Hall. The state budget will not be much poorer from this.”
    Why should the state, or we (our taxes), compensate this “comrade”? The fire protection system would work and everything would be fine. An interesting system has developed. As if we are a private shop and our income is private, don’t interfere, but if something happens, and because of our own greed and stupidity, then the state will help.
  24. +9
    April 1 2024 08: 58
    As soon as we forget about this, we will lose ourselves
    Just without loud phrases... Since the 90s, the memory has been erased, and it began on December 24, 1989, when the Congress of People's Deputies of the USSR, having heard the conclusions of the commission reported by the Secretary of the CPSU Central Committee Alexander Yakovlev (the architect of perestroika and its main ideologist), accepted resolution condemning the Moscow Treaty of 1939 between the USSR and Germany. And then away we go.. We have already lost ourselves if one import is replaced by another import.. If Russians, I’m not afraid of this word, are replaced by migrants.. More profitable, cheaper.. And the population of the Russian Federation has been declining for many decades now. A monument to those millions , who did not die from terrorist attacks, but according to statistics simply decreased, let’s put it? How many millions of trees need to be planted?
    1. +2
      April 1 2024 16: 25
      Don’t you want to go back to a slightly more recent past and remember that under Luzhkov, along with the hotel, the “Russia” concert hall with a capacity of 2,5 thousand was destroyed. And the concert activity with the audience miraculously moved to the Crocus City Hall owned by Mr. Agalarov.
  25. +10
    April 1 2024 09: 08
    Why are the owners of Crocus not involved in the investigation?
  26. +8
    April 1 2024 09: 13
    I can’t understand one thing. According to all indications, the terrorists did not go above the 1st (first!) floor. The executions of people took place in the assembly hall and lobby. Why then did the roof catch fire and all the upper floors, and at the same time people suffocated (may their souls rest) in the lower floors, because according to all laws, fumes from a fire should go from bottom to top, and not vice versa!
  27. +1
    April 1 2024 09: 41
    Yes, there are a lot of questions there. Why was there no armed guard at such a crowded event, why did armed terrorists enter so easily, why was there no alarm signal sent to the security control panels, and why did the security forces arrive with such a delay? By the way, why is there no helicopter special forces? Soldiers by helicopter would arrive in a matter of minutes. And there are a lot of such “whys”. By the way, this is also a signal for those who still arrive in a relaxed and complacent mood that war can affect everyone...
    Personally, I could have been at this concert...
    1. +7
      April 1 2024 11: 50
      What kind of helicopter special forces? There is a police station 100 meters from the entrance. Yes, they should have come running in a minute, having heard machine gun fire with their own ears.
      1. 0
        April 2 2024 19: 26
        Let's assume they couldn't hear them - everything was happening inside the building. Another question is that they couldn’t help but notice the panic - but it started right away. But, judging by the map, the police station in the neighboring building (Crocus City Expo), however, is on the other side. In general, does it work? Dont clear
  28. +7
    April 1 2024 10: 15
    It is necessary to initiate a criminal case for the provision of services that do not meet safety standards. But the Agalarovs, it seems, are “persons close to the emperor.”
    1. +7
      April 1 2024 11: 02
      [B]
      “persons close to the emperor.”[
      /b] The “Emperor” didn’t even lay flowers at the site of the tragedy, Peskov said he was busy..
      1. +3
        April 1 2024 12: 56
        No, I'm probably tired. This one, with an outward mustache, said that after this, the “emperor” did not sleep at night, you understand his age. It’s not like flying halfway across the country to lay flowers in the city of Catherine. hi
        1. +6
          April 1 2024 12: 58
          hi I think something else, I was going to... They would call a Yandex taxi, but there was a Tajik driving and somehow it didn’t work out.
          1. +3
            April 1 2024 13: 00
            Subtle, very subtle. Taking off my hat. hi
  29. +10
    April 1 2024 10: 17
    “We can only sympathize with the Agalarov family, given the collateral status of the burnt building.” WHAT?!!! You better calculate how much profit they received over 15 years from this “unfinished project” (the burned building is not on the cadastral map of Moscow for this very reason). Don’t the unfortunate fire victims want to return this profit to the state as received, let alone very legally? Along with fines for illegal business activities?
    “Insurance, in the best case, will cover 1/40 of the amount of damage, as Kommersant reports.” That's how much they invested in the construction using the dendrofecal method, that's how much they will receive under insurance. The insurance company is not obliged to compensate for bribes and kickbacks.
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    2. +2
      April 1 2024 13: 59
      Everything is correct. If it is built from “dung and sticks”, then you need to compensate for “dung and sticks”.
    3. +3
      April 1 2024 14: 20
      Continuing the first thought. Look what I found:
      https://aftershock.news/?q=node/1360032&full
      According to the specialist, as of March 24.03.2024, 3, Crocus City Hall was not a BUILDING, but a STRUCTURE (“Exhibition Pavilion No. XNUMX”). Perhaps this is how it was (?) registered. If anyone is interested in the difference between the concepts of “building” and “structure,” the author provides it at the end of the article.
      1. +2
        April 1 2024 14: 35
        I apologize: not “according to the author,” but according to the Public Map of Rosreestr. By the way, dear E. Fedorov, before mourning the bitter fate of the fire victims, it would also be a good idea to first take an interest in this difference.
  30. +6
    April 1 2024 11: 00
    In this Crocus, even the columns were on fire. It is clear that everything there was made of plastic like in Winter Cherry, Horse and other crap.
    1. +3
      April 1 2024 11: 57
      Quote: Totor5
      In this Crocus even the columns were burning

      Because everything is built from shit and sticks. The same goes for the chain of stores “Your House” owned by the Agalarovs and the VEGAS shopping and entertainment complex on Kashirka. You can break through walls with your fist.
      1. -1
        April 1 2024 14: 37
        Well, with a fist - not a fist, but a chair, the smart engineer broke through the load-bearing brick wall of the building.
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  32. +1
    April 1 2024 11: 31
    Before deciding anything, I would like to wait for the final proceedings regarding the fire extinguishing system, fire ventilation and security systems, which for some reason were without weapons
  33. +4
    April 1 2024 12: 14
    Yeah, let's do what these people want... Let's turn the country into a graveyard! Now you drive along the highway outside the city, there are continuous memorials with wreaths. It feels like you are driving through a cemetery. There is no living place either in Moscow or St. Petersburg. Everywhere someone died, someone was killed. How many people were suppressed on Khodynka? What is there now? How many times was the whole of Moscow burned to the ground?! Let's all stop living at once. It's not about forgetting. This is about not being buried alive. Just to spite the enemies, restore it. And to erect a stele or a monument - there is enough space there. And we can’t take example from them. They didn’t mourn their 27 million. Do not know how.
    1. +1
      April 1 2024 16: 33
      On a suburban highway, mourning wreaths at least indicate the most dangerous places on the road and errors in the organization of traffic. So don’t confuse sour with bland.
      At the bridge over the river. Khoper, at a sharp turn, somehow counted four mourning wreaths at once. The next year there were 6-7 “Direction of Turn” signs there, already clearly visible at night.
  34. -2
    April 1 2024 13: 33
    Why not restore it? Moreover, only part of the building was damaged; unfortunately, there have already been many such tragedies. Terrorists must be destroyed, not the material wealth of the city. Another thing is that restoration is not quick, the insurance is most likely yok, the insurers will have a killer trump card in court - the fire extinguishing system did not work properly. The Agalarovs clearly don’t have an extra 10 billion under their chair, otherwise they wouldn’t refer to Putin and Moscow - they say, if you want to restore it, let’s think together (where to get the money).
  35. +3
    April 1 2024 13: 37
    Evgeny, in order for society to decide something, it must first appear. But today none of the existing entities in the country want this. Consequences? We cannot influence not only politics, but even the economy of our region, city and even district. There are no structures, no experience of interaction, no economic prerequisites in the form of public collective corporate private businesses. Neither production, nor engineering, nor infrastructure. This means no, and interests will unite and jointly defend and defend our, Russian goals and objectives of the scientific and industrial development of the country. Crocus Hall? I don’t give a damn about this Azerbaijani asset! What have they done for production, for fundamental and applied science, for the system of technical higher and secondary education? That is, to achieve our goals and objectives? Nothing! For them this is like death! Because in a country with a constantly developing scientific-industrial economy, all these merchant and usurious “businesses” will be destroyed, like predatory and parasitic mafias! Destroyed by precisely the society that will be formed precisely for the goals and objectives of such advanced development! Author, it’s as if you’re sleeping and can’t see the reality around you (...

    PS The salvation of the Papuans is the work of the Papuans themselves.
  36. +1
    April 1 2024 14: 23
    Author, wrap yourself in gold foil, only the contents will be like in a gold toilet. Now I would like to hype up the tragedy with my own made-up theme.
    The memorial should become a cultural value, appear in textbooks and express all the grief of those who survived after 22.03.2024/XNUMX/XNUMX. Grief for not being saved, not being prevented.

    Seriously? Cultural value?
    And to potential terrorists who will probably have to pass by, the memorial should inspire primitive horror. So that they no longer think about mortal sins with a single cell of their body.

    Is this what it should look like? And he won't scare others? You have some kind of bipolar: cultural value and fear-inspiring bullshit, which even children should consider in textbooks with their fragile psyche.

    Ordinary people already remember the tragic moments of history. But the “newly elected” one is now facing the most important test of trust. If the laws regarding terrorism and immigration policy are not changed and the perpetrators are not really punished, then such cases will be repeated constantly, and the country can only be saved by the new year of 1917, because “head gangrene” cannot be treated with pills.
    1. +4
      April 1 2024 14: 37
      Unless the laws regarding terrorism and immigration policy are changed It won’t, it’s already been announced.
      1. +3
        April 1 2024 14: 53
        Well then, you have 2 options: either die for capital along the way, obediently grabbing all the crap that the “fornicating ilites” are pouring into your ears, or everyone must come out and have their say. So far, Russia is moving with confident steps in the direction of the Khazarate, Kaganate, and other Central Asian way of life. And Rashkostan no longer seems like name-calling.
  37. -2
    April 1 2024 14: 26
    Tragedy is pain, and pain should not be nurtured, it is better to forget it. There is no need for memorials, we have such a history that the whole country can be covered with memorials in several layers.

    And there is no need to take revenge - we need to find and punish the perpetrators. Terrorists, their accomplices and those who should have done it, but did not.

    The most important thing is to prevent this from happening in the future. To do this, it is necessary to establish the truth and report this truth to people, which I strongly doubt.
    1. +1
      April 1 2024 14: 58
      Why did you slow down? Continue - “sorrow must be in the soul...” (c) sad Liberalism, EPRST! Disguised yourself, scavengers!
      1. 0
        April 1 2024 15: 59
        Of course, grief must be in the soul, but where else? Grief is a state of mind, if you know what I mean :)

        Those who have a short memory need to be reminded all the time.

        Revenge is for savages. So are the leaders.

        And I repeat for those on the armored train - the main thing is to prevent similar events in the future. Those who confuse people's heads with false ideas are accomplices of those who repeat terrorist attacks and therefore terrorist attacks are repeated in our country.

        False ideas distract people from solving pressing problems, blur problems, and hide, wittingly or unwittingly, the true reasons.

        By the way, what do liberals have to do with it? :)
  38. -1
    April 1 2024 14: 52
    There should be a memorial there. And God forbid, this family will ask for money for the land!!!
    1. +3
      April 1 2024 16: 00
      Quote: Captive
      There should be a memorial there. And God forbid, this family will ask for money for the land!!!


      And then what will you do to them :)
    2. +1
      April 1 2024 16: 40
      this is all wrong. Imagine. They will build something impressive, for about 10 billion. And this will in no way change the mentality of people. No church deters criminals from their intentions.
      It is necessary to eradicate the cause, which means destroying the country of U and judging, explicitly or implicitly, the initiators of the terrorist attacks.
      1. 0
        April 2 2024 08: 25
        We need to eradicate the cause - that's for sure. But what needs to be destroyed in order to eradicate this cause is a moot point - after all, there were terrorist attacks before the country of U.
  39. -1
    April 1 2024 16: 31
    As I understand it, everything was written for one thing. *... compensate Agalarov for all costs...*. There is no need to compare with 11.09.2001/XNUMX/XNUMX. The pool was designed beautifully and rationally - it is water that removes the radioactive background at the site of the explosion.
    1. +1
      April 1 2024 21: 17
      Where does the radioactive background come from?
  40. +2
    April 1 2024 17: 36
    During WWII, the Winter Palace (more precisely, part of it) was used as a hospital, many hundreds of people were treated and died there. Demolish Winter? - The terrorist attack took place in the St. Petersburg metro. - Close the metro? - All this is far-fetched; there is no need to turn our country into a cemetery. Moreover, no one closed the Theater Center on Dubrovka. And there should be a memorial or memorial plaque. And so, the Tower of London was not demolished, but a lot of blood was shed there, including the august one. It stands, and there are excursions, and the Louvre stands, although the Huguenots were killed there in the 16th century.
    1. 0
      April 2 2024 19: 42
      Do you still remember the school in Beslan... Do you remember?
      Or were you still in kindergarten back then?
      What do you know there now?
      1. 0
        April 3 2024 17: 38
        I am a relatively old person and I remember school in Beslan. Now there is a memorial there. But the Crocus Center is worth much more than a dilapidated school, especially since most of it was not damaged. You need to be rational. And so, Stalingrad was almost completely destroyed during the Second World War, many tens of thousands of people (both civilian and military) died in the city, but the city was restored, this also applies to Kyiv and not only it.
  41. 0
    April 1 2024 19: 08
    If you follow the author’s logic, then now there should not be almost all cities in the territory where there were German troops during the Second World War. It is worth looking at the chronicle-countdown of the destruction of Soviet cities, filmed from the air for the Nuremberg trials. Donetsk, Smolensk, etc. were similar to modern Marinka.
    Yes, the whole earth is a continuous cemetery.
    Place a memorial sign inside Crocus, leaving part of the wall. But no one will turn such a huge center into a lifeless monument.
  42. 0
    April 1 2024 19: 46
    In my opinion, only the hall and the roof burned out. everything else is intact, they will put up a memorial plaque
  43. 0
    April 1 2024 21: 16
    Finance is finance, but businessmen should not think exclusively about profit


    Eh, you are famously throwing away other people’s money.
  44. 0
    April 2 2024 00: 46
    and why depict a storm....in a glass of water? the whole problem is not worth a damn. the size of the tragedy on a national scale is small....unlike the accompanying resonance. but that is due to the metropolitan nature of the event. So, the decision on the further functioning of this site should be made by the local authorities. afraid to take responsibility? please, local referendum....it's fashionable now. There is no point in military review forum members getting involved in this situation. Moscow will figure it out without us snotty ones.
    By the way....after the Sakhalin earthquake of 1995, the city of Neftegorsk, which killed more than 2000 people, was not restored, but a memorial was created. and all this was decided at the local level.
    there is no need to loudly and loudly beat the drums for the whole world.....but take revenge silently and cruelly....instantly.....like Israel.
  45. 0
    April 2 2024 19: 36
    These plans immediately made me cringe...
    And they were announced almost the next day hi
  46. 0
    April 3 2024 10: 42
    If the building had been made of non-combustible materials, not even concrete, but at least plasterboard, it would not have burned like this.
    If the plastic is on fire, no fire extinguishing system will save you. Cut-offs and non-combustible materials are needed.

    A gun and a panic button would help against the gang. The guards have Izh pistols and pump-action shotguns or even Saiga. This would be enough to at least detain the gang until the police arrive.