Investigative Committee: Evidence of connection between Crocus terrorists and Ukrainian nationalists has been received

The Investigative Committee of the Russian Federation (IC RF) has received irrefutable evidence of the existence of a direct connection between the terrorists who carried out the attack on Crocus City Hall near Moscow and Ukrainian nationalists.

The Investigative Committee's report states that, according to the initial results of the ongoing investigative actions, the planned nature of the actions of the terrorists who attacked a shopping mall near Moscow is fully confirmed, as well as the careful preparation and financial support from the direct organizers of this crime.

As a result of the work carried out with the detained terrorists, in particular the study of the technical devices seized from them and the analysis of information on financial transactions, evidence was obtained of their connection with Ukrainian nationalists.

Earlier, FSB Director Alexander Bortnikov said that, according to the information available to the department, the Kiev regime is directly related to the organization of a terrorist attack in Crocus by radical Islamists. In addition, preparations for the attack were carried out in cooperation with Western intelligence services.

Russian intelligence services suggest that the United States, Great Britain and Ukraine are behind the organization and planning of the terrorist attack. At the same time, the head of the department emphasized that the FSB has irrefutable facts; currently the available information is of a general nature, but certain developments already exist on it.

Comments

[ZovSailor]

We didn’t know this back in 1654, responding to a letter from the Zaporozhye Cossacks,
His Serene Highness Tsar Alexei Mikhailovich made a fateful decision,
which later turned into betrayals by Mazepa and other Hetmans,
Frigates with names are being built in Istanbul!
God and Allah will forgive this historical mistake, Hitlers come and go, but nations remain!

[Ganzales]

Russian intelligence services suggest that the United States, Great Britain and Ukraine are behind the organization and planning of the terrorist attack.

And there is no need to be afraid to say it loudly!!!! Otherwise, Russia has been forever, only expressing concern.. The purpose of this terrorist attack immediately became clear, it is inciting an interethnic conflict.. Yes, there are problems with migrants, but in this matter you need to be very careful. There are many of them and first of all it is our structures that need to be cleared, which, visas, permits and citizenship are issued for bribes .. These are the main danger of the state and they must first be dealt with harshly .. And in parallel, everything else
Thank God there are no pogroms, etc. so far.

[Essex62]

Exactly, we can’t do without the village. You have to be very careful not to inflame it. Aliyev also wished to endure. If something like this, or even anything like this in scale, had happened to the feudal lords, the remnants of the Russians would have already been slaughtered.

[Lev_Russia]

Russian intelligence services suggest that the United States, Great Britain and Ukraine are behind the organization and planning of the terrorist attack.

Who would doubt that these brothers in reason worked together on these terrorist attacks... Two masters and a slave... For some reason I remembered Saltykov’s immortal “How one man fed two generals”... But the Outskirts is no longer a man, it is a country - a terrorist, which two owners stubbornly cover up, blaming everything on ISIS... Well, if they all act together, then this is already a criminal community, or, more simply, a gang using terrorism as a weapon of war... But the boomerang will always return...

[GGV]

This is why there are publications in the American press that our intelligence services allegedly warned. As they say: the thief's cap burns.

[_simply]

Well, it was quite obvious... The Western nerds have an excuse for this case, saying that the Kremlin fabricated everything in order to blame the Ukrainian regime for further escalation. Well, like children, by God. They also made a mistake with a false start.

[Turtle]

Putin is an independent player; he does not require justification for further escalation, especially since he does not require these justifications for Western enemies.
But if we play by their own logic, isn’t the shelling of Belgorod a complete justification for the Russians? Doesn't his percentage in the elections give him carte blanche for any escalation, which generally does not require any justification? The only correct conclusion: the terrorist attack at Crocus is not beneficial for Putin; it did not give him a single extra bonus.
Hammer on the podium: “Completely justified!”
Let’s continue our reasoning and search for those who benefited from this terrorist attack, which was supposed to “intensify the escalation.”
1. If Dementia Biden cannot preserve 404 in at least some form before the November elections, he will go to jail through the efforts of Colonel Trump. With a cry, “Putin ruined the air conditioners in Crocus in order to exterminate the population of the Red Book upright walking pigs!” he will beg for money for the pianist Gnida at his congresses.
2. The heads of the European colonies of the United States, citing the “rampant Islamic radicalism” and “aggression of the Kremlin,” will try to stop peasant riots with dung fireworks, hoping in the depths of their hearts that the sooner we crush the dill, the sooner they will be freed from unbearable aid to the Ukrainians.
3. Separately in this row are the stooped psheks, who can’t wait to end the existence of the Sumerian Republic, and with it the flow of cheap grain, “Ukrainian whores” and, if they’re lucky, return Lviv.
Hammer on the podium: "Guilty!"

[Thrifty]

Okay, what will be the response from our side? Will we start shooting the GUR soldiers en masse? Will we launch a series of missile and bomb attacks on the Ukrainian leadership? Just don’t make the country laugh by complaining to the UN!!!

[Blacksmith 55]

This evidence must be provided to all international organizations. Let the public see how some states support the terrorist regime in Kyiv. Although I don’t think this will help, they will deny it. They say the Russians falsified the evidence.

[BAT-MENT]

I don’t care about the international community, I don’t care about their opinions. You just need to destroy everyone who was behind this crime! It's stupid to kill everyone and that's it.

[Essex62]

Getting to the leadership of MI6 and the CIA is very problematic. And there have been no specialists capable of doing this for a long time either in the Office or in the GRU.

[karabas-barabas]

Quote: Blacksmith 55

This evidence must be provided to all international organizations. Let the public see

Don't the Russians need to prove anything? Or if the Investigative Committee said so, does that mean it is so? After such a loud statement, if there really are facts that the Investigative Committee can provide, they hold a large press conference, invite all possible journalists and diplomats there and actually make a presentation of the facts and make claims to those countries or governments that, in the opinion of the Investigative Committee, prepared and financed the terrorist attack and demand answers to a number of questions. After all, if everything is as the Investigative Committee says and the facts are ironclad, then this will greatly spoil Ukraine’s relationship with the West and is guaranteed to lead to a freezing of the war.

[Blacksmith 55]

What am I talking about? We must knock on all doors if there is ironclad evidence.

[karabas-barabas]

Quote: Blacksmith 55

We must knock on all doors if there is ironclad evidence.

That's it, like you.

[Bogalex]

Bravo! I give a standing ovation!

[guest]

Quote: karabas-barabas

After all, if everything is as the IC says and the facts are ironclad, then this will greatly spoil Ukraine’s relationship with the West and is guaranteed to lead to a freeze in the war.

Why will this ruin Ukraine’s relationship with the West?

[karabas-barabas]

From the fact that public opinion will swing from sympathy and support for Ukraine, to the opposite, those political forces that for military support of Ukraine will lose public support, and those forces that were in favor of stopping aid and freezing the war will gain more.

[guest]

Quote: karabas-barabas

Since public opinion will swing from sympathy and support for Ukraine

This is serious? I want to remind you that in the West they believe that killing Russians is good and right.

[Essex62]

What is the basis for this conclusion? It is the West that is waging war on us. This is a form of war, an attempt to shake things up from within. The bourgeoisie don’t like it when they suddenly find themselves “at war” too. Questions arose to their capitalist power. In the West they know how to arrange “flower gardens” very well.
And the freezing of Russia is not at all necessary for the business geyropato; it has been dreaming about it for a long time, but has no influence on the supranational Europower.

[Mikhail m]

The FSB has irrefutable facts, currently available information has general character,

As I understand it, there is nothing to present yet, except for the general words that the presenters tell on TV.

[ANB]

. What will be the answer from our side?

Step 1 has already been done. Almost all respected countries recognized that there was an act of terrorism in Crocus and condemned it.
Now step 2 - Ukraine is a terrorist organization.
Step 3 - everyone who supports Ukraine supports terrorists. And this is toxic in the world. Although everyone will scream that there is no evidence, the opposition will cling to it. There will be problems pushing through the allocation of money.
Step 4 - you can do anything with terrorist organizations without the approval of the UN Security Council. But here you have to prepare first before doing it.

[karabas-barabas]

Quote: ANB

Even though everyone will scream that there is no evidence

All these steps are meaningless without evidence.

[ANB]

. All these steps are meaningless without evidence.

I regularly undergo training on PD FT and FROM. It's easy to get on the list. It's harder to get out of them.
Since it has already been announced, it means there is already evidence. And 100% of the US will declare them false. So here you just need to do everything confidently. We believe that the evidence is there and it is ironclad. We act on this basis.

[karabas-barabas]

Quote: ANB

Since it has already been announced, it means there is already evidence. And 100% of the US will declare them false. So here you just need to do everything confidently. We believe that the evidence is there and it is ironclad. We act on this basis.

They just announced that there is some evidence, now they need to provide it, names, appearances, etc. If the evidence is based on facts, then how can the Americans not admit it? Moreover, if facts and evidence are presented before the US elections, the ratings of Trump and supporters of freezing the war will be higher.

[ANB]

This is the number. They found a financial trail. I wonder how it will be declared false?

[Ivan Ivanov]

Step 3 - everyone who supports Ukraine supports terrorists.

The wording of the Investigative Committee is confusing. The terrorists are connected with some Ukrainian nationalists (and not with the Ukrainian state?) Again, leaving a gap for dancing back, Istanbul-2, Minsk-3? How our elite has become so fussed with its ambiguity. Eternal political p.o.r.n.o from the Gorbachevites

[Ganzales]

Quote: Thrifty

Okay, what will be the response from our side? Will we start shooting the GUR soldiers en masse? Will we launch a series of missile and bomb attacks on the Ukrainian leadership? Just don’t make the country laugh by complaining to the UN!!!

Everything will be Lean!!!! And the most important thing is that Ukraine will definitely no longer exist... The issue has already been resolved, I’m sure of this

[BAT-MENT]

Nobody thought that the terrorists would survive! Therefore, the trace was not particularly noticed. It is important for us as citizens to know what the Russian government is going to do now, the connections with this, and what specific measures will be taken. Many people have died and we have the right to ask how we will respond.

[VZEM100]

flirting with the Islamists will end badly. this is a manifestation of weakness to which they have only one reaction - to take out the dagger and finish off the enemy.

[alystan]

It is not enough for you that the president said that it is not the Islamists, but the West and Ukraine who are involved.

[VZEM100]

no not enough. because everyone understands that bullshit is being dragged in here for political purposes

[Ganzales]

Quote: alystan

It is not enough for you that the president said that it is not the Islamists, but the West and Ukraine who are involved.

Do you understand now who you are talking to?..The wave is beginning..I think this is not the last provocation to distract Russia from the Ukrainian issue!
We don’t pay attention and continue to kill the ukronatsik!!! This is what the West and the junta fear most...

[guest]

TsIPSO has its own line and will continue to pursue it.

[Ganzales]

Quote: VZEM100

flirting with the Islamists will end badly. this is a manifestation of weakness to which they have only one reaction - to take out the dagger and finish off the enemy.

Our security forces showed the whole world how we in Russia “flirt with terrorists”
But the main terrorists are overseas! And Russia has finally started saying this directly
So there is no need for whining and provocations here

[VZEM100]

What do you think of the spooks in the Kremlin?

[realing]

First of all, it's not enough. During his 4 terms, the President has already said a lot of things and his words did not always coincide with reality.
Secondly, even if Ukraine is involved in this, how does this remove the threat of ISIS? I think ISIS didn’t mind killing two birds with one stone: carrying out a terrorist attack, reminding them of themselves, and taking a little revenge, and collaborating with the Ukrainians. This will not change the fact that they are capable of doing this on their own.

[Most polite]

Putin: “We know that the crime was committed by radical Islamists. But we also see that the United States is trying to convince its satellites and other countries of the world that there is supposedly no Kyiv trace in the Moscow terrorist attack. We know by whose hands this atrocity was committed....”

It would be strange that after the words of the President, the Investigative Committee of the Russian Federation (IC RF) and the FSB would not have received irrefutable evidence... but somehow doubts gnaw at their efficiency. Although, under intense interrogation, anyone will be crushed to death and sign anything.
So far, both from the RF Investigative Committee and from the FSB there is only blah-blah-blah.
If there is nothing to say SPECIFICALLY and with facts in hand, then it is better for them to remain silent, they need to work better!

[Gardamir]

By the way, yes! Were the video cameras also turned off in Crocus?

[Boycott]

Was it really possible that the video cameras in Crocus were also turned off?

There were cameras and the recordings were saved. Thanks to them, it was established in which car the terrorists fled.

[ZovSailor]

Most polite
Today, 19: 36
Putin: “We know that the crime was committed by radical Islamists. But we also see that the United States is trying to convince its satellites and other countries of the world that there is supposedly no Kyiv trace in the Moscow terrorist attack. We know by whose hands this atrocity was committed....”

It would be strange that after the words of the President, the Investigative Committee of the Russian Federation (IC RF) and the FSB would not have received irrefutable evidence... but somehow doubts gnaw at their efficiency. Although, under intense interrogation, anyone will be crushed to death and sign anything.
So far, both from the RF Investigative Committee and from the FSB there is only blah-blah-blah.
If there is nothing to say SPECIFICALLY and with facts in hand, then it is better for them to remain silent, they need to work better!
What, personally, could you propose as a punishment for 10000001% receipt of proofs for the participation of Saxo-Naglia, Fashington and other satellites, including VNA 404?
Not forgetting that behind you are Russia, Moscow and the Arbat and millions of compatriots who are not eager to give up their lives according to your personal decision, the elite, the oligarchs, who remind you every day that they are also the masters of life in the country of the Russian Federation, without whose dough Russia will be ruined,
Since no one will issue loans, even Uncle Xi first thinks about his people and the future of his own, and not of close allies, partners, neighbors?
In this situation, your hasty decision to deal with everyone with one blow
enemies will only lead to the destruction of civilization!
I am for the inevitable punishment of the Saxo-arrogants and mattress makers, but knockout and without negative consequences for our people, this is the value of any leader capable
lead your people to the goal, delivering disarming blows to enemies along the way!

[seamen2]

*And what, personally, could you propose as a punishment for receiving 10000001% proofs for the participation of Saxo-Naglia, Fashing-ton and other satellites, including VNA 404?*
for starters, let Boo die. the same one. with the official Press release WHY and FOR WHAT. then it will become clear to all interested parties that it is better not to do this.
*is my idea clear?* (c)

[ZovSailor]

for starters, let Boo die. the same one. with the official Press release WHY and FOR WHAT. then it will become clear to all interested parties that it is better not to do this.
*is my idea clear?* (c)
But they didn’t notice - the hunt had already begun a long time ago and not only for him, but also for the little one, some of the NATO generals don’t need Polensky, the abominations and others, no longer died suddenly in car accidents.
I hope not even six months will pass, although I, like everyone else, also think that the hunt should have started
even after the failure of the Istanbul meetings, the fate of history would have gone wrong.
This did not stop them, and the bar can rise to provocation in 404 dirty vigorous with all the consequences and accusations of the Russian Federation using the example of Bucha!
The Supreme Commander gave a signal for Fu-16s, which will be shot down at all airfields, since the Russian Federation will consider them legitimate targets carrying nuclear weapons against us (it is not said out loud about nuclear weapons, but it’s clear).
In addition to the logs, who quarreled with the Bandernatsik and Tribolts, no one with a little thought intends to give up his life in defense of VNA 404 such provocations!
We follow the hands of the Saxo-nagls and grandfather Dementy!

[already a Muscovite]

I would like to know who is downvoting. Well, or at least flags. Tired of these unverified incognita.

[realing]

I take a minus for the simplest reasons: I see a distortion of a surname, a first name, stupid nicknames or a distortion of the names of countries - I put a minus. Nothing is clear except the complete lack of brains of the authors of such comments, as well as a complete lack of respect for the opponent.

[Mikhail m]

I agree. I completely agree.

[already a Muscovite]

I'm minus for the simplest reasons

Well, I gave you a minus. I don’t like macarons and gentlemen in trousers.

[realing]

For God's sake, it's your right.

[VZEM100]

With such a policy, they will lead the country to large-scale Islamization and massive conflicts. Apparently, due to their age, they are no longer afraid of this, and their children and grandchildren will flee to Europe and the United States if the same thing does not start there by then.

[YanniKounnar]

Fuir en Europe!?
Mais en Europe la situation est bien pire depuis longtemps...

[alystan]

Are you not at all embarrassed by the “widespread” return to the Orthodox faith?
Or to the Jewish faith? Or do you see only Islam as the cause of all problems?
Isn't there too much indulgence among religious denominations?
Maybe the state itself is a little to blame for “following” their lead?

[VZEM100]

Show me Orthodox extremists?
In general, I am in favor of banning everyone. We don’t need these Semitic cults, neither the Russians nor the Tatars nor the Tajiks. At one time, they were imposed on them as a result of centuries of oppression by foreign invaders, depriving their ancestors of their own identity, their culture, their names and gods.

[ANB]

. Show me Orthodox extremists?

Ukrainians. A lot of.

[VZEM100]

this is an incorrect example. For them, the basis of extremism is nationalism and not religion.

[VZEM100]

my grandfather’s mother was Turkish (my great-grandfather brought her to his village from the Russian-Turkish war), but I simply can’t stand them for their cunning, cruelty and vile habit of protecting their own so that they don’t do something like the gypsies. and also because they rush around with their Islam like a fool with a bag, although in fact it was imposed on almost all of them through blood. I can’t stand priests either. Of Christianity, Protestantism is the most attractive to me.

[Essex62]

Of course. Protestantism is not a religion but a political program. That's why she's attractive. There is no opium there, everything is specific.

[Skif3216]

Well, if you cut off the other ear or connect the phone again, it will turn out that Biden personally instructed them.

[Michael]

Quote: Skif3216

it turns out that Biden personally instructed them.

Judging by their complete inadequacy, it is not excluded.

[alystan]

The performers are clear. The “accomplices” were also dealt with; they had already been placed under arrest for selling a car and renting out a home. For further investigation.

Why are the owners of this entertainment establishment - with a non-functional fire system and locked emergency exits - still at large, not questioned or even questioned? The owners of the same "Wild Cherry", although they were not immediately detained, and they even received a prison term. Is it because the Minister of Emergency Situations personally reported to the president of the country, deceiving him that everything worked as expected? Is there no connection here between them - the host and the covering minister? Maybe here we could find a connection with the West?

What is shocking is that the child workers of the center took people out of there, left people in a helpless state until the doctors arrived, and the adult staff simply darted from the scene. Exactly like in "Wild Cherry".

[Nesvoy]

Quote: Gardamir

By the way, yes! Were the video cameras also turned off in Crocus?

And here you are asking a very inconvenient question. After all, in fact, there are no more videos other than videos of the spectators themselves.

[fabrice68]

Et meme s'il restait le moindre doute sur cette responsabilité de l'Ukraine, de toute façon c'est un Etat terroriste, puisque ses cibles sont exclusivement des civils, que ce soit à Belgorod ou à Donetsk. Tirer sur des civils pour les tuer,et non pas pour se défendre, est la caractéristique du terrorisme. Donc pas trop à hésiter, sur le sort à donner aux dirigeants ukros...

[old friend]

All this is just more words, behind which, most likely, there will be no concrete evidence. Against the background of this failure of the special services, I am interested in the question of Bortnikov’s personal responsibility. Especially not against the backdrop of public and early warnings from the United States. IMHO, this is criminal negligence. Even events with over 1000 visitors could be taken over by the security services. A normal person was obliged to resign (in Tsarist times, IMHO, a person would have shot himself)

PS I looked at how old Bortnikov is - he’s already over 70. Is it normal that the head of such a service is a person who should have been writing memoirs long ago in retirement? In this regard, recalls Stalin and his people's commissars. I have an extremely negative attitude towards Stalin, but what cannot be taken away cannot be taken away. The man understood that real results could be demanded from young and ambitious leaders.

[guest]

Quote: old friend

PS I looked at how old Bortnikov is - he’s already more than 70.

Not like the “young” US President.

[old friend]

The king is “played” by his retinue. Unfortunately, this is the lot of all dictatorial leaders or those who have been in power for a very long time. Their entire team ages with them. And they don’t trust young people (put 40-year-olds in key positions, and before you know it, you’ll become a former president). As a result, we have lost control over the situation in the country.

PS I don’t care how old Biden is. The United States is not in a state of hot war and it is not their intelligence that has failed (

[guest]

Quote: old friend

PS I don’t care how old Biden is. The United States is not in a state of hot war and it is not their intelligence that failed

I can give plenty of examples when their reconnaissance failed.

[JonnyT]

Kibri is already squealing, as if the FBS had shoved a red-hot poker up his ass... There will be more to come - The global squabble of the USA and the Britons and the inexplicable deaths of kaklo-telegram people and their curators from the SBU/GUR

[faterdom]

I think it’s fair to give a kind word to Irina Yarovaya for the law of her name.
Thanks to this, we are not treading water a millimeter here or a millimeter here, but are moving quite quickly in the investigation of a complex online terrorist case.

[Ivan Ivanov]

Not “FROM Ukraine,” dear gentlemen, but “From Ukraine.” Or do political h.o.h.l.s work in the UK?

[Dizel200]

So our president seems to have said that ISIS is the culprit? Or do they have different data?

[sodium20]

The reality is - the attackers were 'trained' by the US & UK and 'deployed' by Ukraine.