A Russian Aerospace Forces combat aircraft crashed into the sea near Sevastopol

A Russian combat aircraft crashed into the Black Sea near Sevastopol, this information comes from various Russian and Ukrainian resources. According to preliminary information, we are talking about a fighter. The pilot ejected.

A Russian Aerospace Forces fighter jet fell into the sea, the pilot ejected, he was picked up by rescuers 200 meters from the shore, he is alive and his life is not in danger. The plane crash was confirmed by the governor of Sevastopol, Mikhail Razvozzhaev, who reported on his TG channel that there were no consequences from the plane crash. Preliminarily, we are talking about the Su-35S fighter.

A military plane crashed into the sea. I see that Ukrainian public pages publish a lot of different information. No civilian objects were damaged. The pilot ejected. He was picked up by rescuers from the Sevastopol Rescue Service at a distance of two hundred meters from the shore. His life is not in danger

- the governor wrote.

The reason for the fall is not known, the Ministry of Defense will look into this, but for now it is assumed that it could have been a technical malfunction, as well as “friendly fire”, this has not been canceled. Various Ukrainian publics are strongly behind the second version; they do not consider others at all. Moreover, the footage distributed on the Internet shows that the falling plane is on fire. The military department has not yet commented on the plane crash.

Comments

[Ivan Ivanov]

A lot of friendly fire lately. Someone else's system doesn't work?

[Olesya Lesya]

Our air defense was not working at that moment. Something else happened, maybe a malfunction. The pilot will tell you. )) Thank God he’s alive!

[Ilya-spb]

The most important thing is human life!

And the fire... Maybe the engine caught fire? This happens.

[Sofievka]

It has two engines, looking at the video, it’s still external damage, it’s a pity for both the pilot and the plane. In peacetime, the main thing is that the pilot is alive, in wartime, the main thing is the plane

[YanniKounnar]

Je pense que même en temps de guerre le pilote est plus important, car il est plus rapide de construire un avion que de former un bon pilote.
Sans même prendre en compte la...vie.Qui n'a pas de prix.

[ramzay21]

The criminally huge losses of our Aerospace Forces are associated with the lack of communication and information exchange system within the Aerospace Forces, as well as with other branches and types of troops, including air defense and the Navy, as well as the complete incompetence of those responsible for this.
With a properly built system of communication and data exchange, not only could there not be such losses, all capabilities would reach a completely different level both in terms of detecting and hitting targets and in terms of air defense and repelling attacks from land and sea. Not having this in our army in 2024 is a crime.
The saddest thing is that our country was once one of the leaders in the system of automated command and control, but the level of knowledge and competencies of each commander immediately became visible in it, and the stupidest sycophants began to sabotage it and ruined it, otherwise they would not have risen to the coveted stripes.

[Vicontas]

What can you do - no one polishes the boss’s ass with their tongue as brightly as dull mediocrities! Because this is the only way they become closer to money and power! To the detriment of everything else!

[FoBoss_VM]

The worst thing about this situation is that no one took any responsibility for the wild number of friendly planes shot down and pilots killed. I have, first of all, responsible persons in high uniforms and positions. Those who should be responsible for this. Well, judging by the third year of the war and the fact that the friendliness is not decreasing, no one is doing anything in this direction. It's sad... There will be a big war with NATO and it will come back to haunt us. It is urgent to solve the problem before it is too late

[ramzay21]

It is urgent to solve the problem before it is too late

Yes, there is no one there to decide whether they are either traitors or, in their understanding, communication is such a thing with an antenna and a tube that our grandfathers used when they took Berlin to report to the top

[Cartographer]

Quote: ramzay21

Yes, there is no one there to decide whether they are either traitors or, in their understanding, communication is such a thing with an antenna and a tube that our grandfathers used when they took Berlin to report to the top

First, you need to have your own microelectronics, otherwise you’re used to doing everything from imports, and when that was gone, there was no communication. Glory to the best defense minister of all time!

[Novonur]

For all this, we need to change the system itself, otherwise such friendly fires will cost us a lot in material and personnel resources; in wartime, there must be a thorough investigation of every emergency. I’m not hinting at anything, but it’s interesting that precisely such aviation emergencies have become more frequent in the Northeast Military District zone or in adjacent areas.

[BecmepH]

Quote from Yanni Kounnar

Je pense que même en temps de guerre le pilote est plus important, car il est plus rapide de construire un avion que de former un bon pilote.
Sans même prendre en compte la...vie.Qui n'a pas de prix.

Totally agree with you. Nothing compares to human life. Especially a specialist. In a specific case, any aircraft is cheaper than the life of the pilot who was trained and provided with. How much benefit will the pilot bring to the Motherland and how much harm to the enemy? By and large, an airplane, and other weapons, are consumables in war.

[Nastia makarova]

do not read??? and you write!!! the pilot is alive and the plane is garbage

[SovAr238A]

Bullshit? Almost $100 million.
The production time for an aircraft, if you go through the entire supply chain, exceeds a year.
Stop thinking in terms of WWII, when airplanes were made of plywood and duralumin. Look at the technological map and equipment of those years and modern ones.

Bullshit for him.

Now there is a tendency that a modern aircraft should have 2 pilots.
This means precisely the super-importance of the aircraft, and not just the pilot.

[Selidat]

A pilot is even a very valuable unit in wartime. An airplane without a trained pilot (and this is not a couple of months at all) will not bring much benefit

[mult-65]

Good for you Victor, you are in peacetime.

[Sofievka]

My time is the same as yours, I’m from Sevastopol, and about peacetime and non-peacetime, I just repeated the words spoken back in 1979 by my commander, MIG25PDS sniper pilot Major Semenov, during a break between flights in the smoking room at the airfield, at that moment there were a lot of aviation people in it, pilots, technicians, and we mechanics. So everyone agreed with his idea, that’s all. The plane must take off at the right time and complete the task. At any cost.

[El Chuvachino]

It was a different time. Now we do not have an abundance of both planes and pilots, so there is no point in separating them at all, they are one whole.

[Victor Gubankov]

Making an airplane is much faster than training a pilot, even just to fly, much less to fight.

[quolta]

the engine is extinguished there is a toggle switch to turn on and cuts off the fuel supply and turns on the fire extinguisher the kerosene is burning the engine is metal something like this

[Andrey_10]

It is not always possible to put out a fire with an on-board fire extinguishing system, especially since it is not known what is driving there

[Grancer81]

And burning kerosene is not always extinguished by the aircraft fire extinguishing system.

[JD1979]

Perhaps they hit me with a long-range shot from the S-400. It doesn't really look like a fall from a malfunction. The flame is too intense, uncharacteristic for a normal engine fire, and erupts not only from the engine, but also from the edge of the wing. Plus, if it were a normal fire, the fire extinguishing system would work and the fuel supply would be stopped. And then... either something on the pylon exploded or flew in.

[75 Sergey]

This is not the first time that our planes and helicopters fall down from an unknown influence, the A-50 is from the same series, I think the khkhlov have something that makes them not shine.

[quolta]

maybe the destruction of the turbine by the blades broke through the tanks and caused a fire

[GGV]

Why S-400? Even if we assume “friendly fire” (although this has not been proven), then over Sevastopol you can shoot it down from anything, even a “willow tree”. So where does the firewood come from? At the same time, missiles from the S-400 release a large number of destructive elements and it is extremely rare for pilots to survive after being hit.

[JD1979]

I proceeded from the post to which I wrote a response:

Quote: Olesya Lesya

Our air defense was not working at that moment.

Those. people did not hear the sound of the SAM solid propellant rocket engine. The same Verba would have been heard and there would have been a contrail. Accordingly, they worked with a longer-range complex and the missile was already moving by inertia at the time of destruction. What kind of complex is this... m.b. and S-400 with medium-range missiles, maybe Pantsir-S1 and Buk-M2, the latter are more likely.

[klev72]

The cart confirms this. Malfunction. The pilot was in touch and took the plane away from the buildings while he could control it. Alive, air defense has nothing to do with it.

[private person]

The pilot will tell you.

But in any case, for us this is a technical malfunction. The less you know the better you sleep.

[Ganzales]

The main thing is the pilot is alive!!! Military operations are underway and this is quite possible... They'll sort it out!
Our VKS work great and gain experience, risking a lot of hooliganism..

[Pete mitchell]

Quote: IvanIvanov

The system is someone else’s...

... for air defense/air defense systems this is Murphy's law - we bring down everyone, we count them on the ground.
Why is this a question for Znamenskaya Street

[Clear]

[quote]Why is this a question for the street Znamenskaya[/quote]
Znamenka street.

Hi

[Pete mitchell]

Quote: Clear

Why is this a question for Znamenskaya Street

Znamenka Street

Of course Znamenka... God had mercy, he was long ago

[Arkady007]

The system can and does work, but the connection between the air defense and the air force does not seem to be constant.

[Ovsigovets]

“Various Ukrainian public pages are strongly behind the second version; they don’t consider others at all.” (C))))))))

[Oscar Mike]

The air defense officer shoots down everything that takes off.

[Dock1272]

Well, yes. As in the joke: I don’t fly, no one will... The most disgusting thing is that they won’t draw conclusions, and if they do, they don’t care.

[Nexcom]

It's a pity.... For some reason it burns suspiciously strongly.... And falls like a flat corkscrew....

But most importantly, the pilot is alive and saved. This is good.

[Maxim]

engine surging, bird getting into the engine

[Nexcom]

all this is possible, but... it burns strongly.
When birds are caught in the engine, such a fire seems impossible....

maybe there was a fuel leak or something like that....

[Maxim]

if the blades are destroyed, then it will burn like that

[Arisaka]

Look at the photos of flight 4590, they burned like a torch - the engine flew apart.

[Thrifty]

From one angle it looks like a Su27, but the main thing is that the pilot is alive and I hope he did not receive any damage or injury!

[spirit]

Su27

This is it, and it seems that the fishermen picked it up and then only handed it over to the rescuers

[Nexcom]

Su27 does not seem to be the very first in terms of resource. No? Then a malfunction and fire, for example, of the same engine is quite likely.

[quolta]

The lifespan of the airframe can be 25 years and the engine (I don’t remember exactly), for example, 5000 hours of flight time, then change it anyway, even if the norm works (again, in peacetime conditions)

[kapitan92]

In the "cart" they write SU35. And he was shot down by his own people. The pilot ejected. Let's wait for a “clear” answer from General Konashenkov and the Defense Ministry. If this is so, then it’s time for Shoigu to collect thyme.

[Maxim]

there would be a contrail, it would be in the sky for a long time from an anti-aircraft missile

[kapitan92]

Quote: Maxim

there would be a contrail, it would be in the sky for a long time from an anti-aircraft missile

What is a contrail and at what altitude does it appear, I hope you know?
How long did the drying last after a possible missile strike with a burning engine?

[Arisaka]

engine?

The person simply meant the smoke trail from the missile defense system, which is clear from the context.

[Maxim]

The contrail from the missiles remains for a long time and it is impossible not to notice it. it looks something like this

[running Man]

Quote: Thrifty

From one angle it looks like a Su27, but the main thing is that the pilot is alive and I hope he did not receive any damage or injury!

Su-27 and Su-35 look the same from afar.

[ZVOnar]

Thank God the pilot is alive.
The rest is fog of war

[Ganzales]

Quote: ZVOnar

Thank God the pilot is alive.
The rest is fog of war

Well written..! They will understand the reasons and draw conclusions

[Medvedev_Dmitry]

What kind of "friendly" is this? We don’t let others fly and we won’t let our own... Although there in (Sevastopol) the sirens were howling, there was probably a missile attack.

[Rakovor]

We didn’t have any anxiety today, no need to fuss.

[rosomaha]

Why do people say that the Su 35 is single seat. Maybe it's su30

[ZovSailor]

There’s a suspiciously lot of stench of the pseudo-under-West with Rippers, Hawks, Poseidons, maybe a constantly crap-sucking UAV planted a microscopic UAV?
Knock down to death after all acts, terrorist attacks, as enemies of the whole world, everything human,
For war crimes and crimes against humanity, one of 4 such violations in the Russian Federation’s right to self-defense is enough for the UN!
Health to our aces!
Victory will be ours!

[BAI]

, as well as “friendly fire”, this has not been canceled.

They are. Since no one is punished for the past, it means no conclusions have been drawn, and this will continue

[75 Sergey]

It seems very likely that the HHLs have something that they rarely use, so as not to get burned, but accurately.

[NakedMan]

It is certainly unpleasant, but not catastrophic. We have a lot of such planes, but the pilot is still alive - very good.
But of course we need to understand the reasons.

[Sergey3]

Here's a closer video, but with a matte finish :)
https://t.me/groupzarya/49923

[Nexcom]

Yes, in TG VO there is a much closer video filmed. You can clearly see there - it falls in an inverted position and the entire bottom in the area of ​​​​the engines and one plane are burning very strongly. After a collision with water there is a small explosion.

[Sergey3]

Somehow I don’t believe in a technical malfunction, it was shot down by something long-range. If they have become adept at shooting down our daggers, what can we say about the plane...

[Nastia makarova]

you are spreading some kind of bullshit

[Sergey3]

Somehow I don’t believe in a technical malfunction, it was shot down by something long-range. If they have become adept at shooting down our daggers, what can we say about the plane...

[Nexcom]

The kakels cannot shoot down our Daggers. They just blabber about it and demonstrate something incomprehensible, claiming that these are the fragments of the Dagger.
There is no way for the kakels to knock them down.

[Sergey3]

Unfortunately, it looks like they can, the dagger has a weak point, when it slows down to change course for a dive, at this moment its speed drops by 2 times, the Jews said about this 2 years ago that then it can be shot down.

[Thrifty]

Sergey 3 - don’t fantasize, the Dagger, like the Zircon, fly to the target at MAXIMUM speed! Otherwise, why are hypersonic missiles needed? And the Jews, politely speaking, are the first dreamers on the planet - what they don’t understand, they invent as “the Jewish truth”!

[voyaka uh]

“Otherwise, why do we need hypersonic missiles?”///
---
1. To make it difficult to shoot down in the middle part of the trajectory.
2. To reduce the time of approach to the target (more difficult for missile defense).

And braking occurs in dense layers of the atmosphere (physics).
And homing correction in the terminal section does not work
on hypersound.
Therefore, both Dagger, Iskander, and Zircon are at the terminal section
flying at supersonic speed. And an objective missile defense system can shoot them down.

[Vicontas]

Can you give at least one example? Just don’t need Ukrainian noodles on your ears!

[km-21]

Double bummer.
The loss of an aircraft is costly to the treasury.
But the holiday on the other side of the fly is even nastier.

[ximkim]

Quote: 75Sergey

It seems very likely that the HHLs have something that they rarely use, so as not to get burned, but accurately.

Shoigu probably.

[Vladimirsky]

The reason for the crash is the same as that of the Il-76 near Ivanovo. I caught an arrow. SADLY.

[Vadim Zhivov]

Proof please if you don't mind.

[BABAY22]

Quote: Vladimirsky

I caught an arrow.

Yes, come on Tomahawk! What is there, go on, go on and on!

Or maybe you are from Ivanovo? And saw it with your own eyes? But the phone was dead, and that’s why they couldn’t take it? More precisely, from Bogorodskoye, it’s all yours there.

I believe.

[Vladimirsky]

Oh, I was wrong, of course. Don’t go to a fortune teller, these were birds both in Ivanovo and in Crimea. And most likely the midges got into the air intakes. Therefore, it was not just a surge in the engine, but a fire and a stone down. I won’t insert faces. There is no reason for antics. Only sadness. .

[Nastia makarova]

who shot then?.........

[Vladimirsky]

One saboteur with a MANPADS is enough. Yes, even on an inflatable boat 2 km from the shore, or in a cove along the coastline. launcher into the water - and you'll prove it. (this is me as an option). And I’m sure there’s no need to prove to anyone that there are seas of saboteurs on Russian territory.

[running Man]

It is possible that NATO countries have adapted the AIM-120D air-to-air missile to some small drone and are launching it under guidance from their AWACS aircraft. Technically this is possible. Or maybe they are even launched by F-35A from low altitudes from Turkey’s sworn “friend and partner”.

[Poplar]

they are launched by F-35A from low altitudes from Turkey’s sworn “friend and partner”.

This is unlikely. The Amers understand perfectly well that in this case all their beautiful, expensive reconnaissance UAVs will be shot down without any warning from now on.

[running Man]

Well, they don’t advertise such things. And besides, the more they are not hit in the teeth, the more they escalate. And having accustomed them to permissiveness, it will then be even harder to stop them without starting a nuclear war. In any case, Russia already needs to prepare for a big war, including a nuclear one. I have been saying for a long time that when the American empire with its inflated financial mega-bubble collapses, its true owners will not spare the territory of the United States with its population, just to physically destroy Russia. It sounds like madness at first glance, but Zionists are crazy scumbags.

[running Man]

I also forgot to mention that there is a version about the use from time to time of MANPADS or more serious missiles based on air-to-air missiles mounted on unmanned boats. Unfortunately, such boats, filled with explosives, even enter the bays of Crimea without hindrance and for some reason they are fired at most from machine guns, and not from heavy machine guns or automatic cannons, as would be logical. What if torpedoes come? In general, there are a lot of questions for the military leadership of Crimea...

[Poplar]

Well, they don’t advertise such things

And it doesn’t matter whether they advertise it or not. Our people, and first of all the pilot, know very well where it came from.
And yes, there is no need to create panic and create horror here. If America “collapses, then its true owners” will only become richer, and they do not need a nuclear war at all, they need Russia with all its riches.

[woodcutter]

There are Nasams complexes in Ukraine. They use aim120. Drones are not associated with the use of Amraams.

[alystan]

Author, maybe it’s still “friendly fire”?

[Vladimir80]

Author, maybe it’s still “friendly fire”?

Whatever the reason, this is evidence of serious problems in aviation

[km-21]

Thank God,
that this time it’s not the A-50.

[El13]

What a useful topic, you can immediately see the writers on the other side - everyone who points out the reason, the rest don’t know. These people don’t know either, but they specifically indicate - take a notepad and write it down.

[running Man]

I am not indicating anything, but guessing. There are still no official messages and there won’t be any. Someone came up with this forum. What should I write? Of course, I understand that youngsters want to show off. As for who is on which side, you clearly have no idea what kind of war this is. I didn’t give a damn about the borders drawn by Lenin and implemented by Gorbachev, Yeltsin, Kravchuk and other monsters. You have fun there, but if Russia is divided into small pieces, they will be forced to kill each other in the same way. And then a bunch of happy local horses and State Department cookies will appear. Fools are the same everywhere. As for the trolls, you have to get used to them. Most of them are broadcast not even from Zhidobandostan, which became a concentration camp and grave for millions of Russians, but from Canada, the USA, Great Britain and, of course, Israel. So they will not end even after the war. It is not clear whether this war will end or develop into a world war.

[Oleg Apushkin]

Equipment tends to break down. The Americans have military planes, and sometimes they crash without participating in combat.

[Dedok]

A Russian Aerospace Forces fighter jet fell into the sea, the pilot ejected, he was picked up by rescuers 200 meters awayt shore, he is alive and his life is not in danger.

it was raised by civilian fishermen

[Kapany3]

Quote: ramzay21

The criminally huge losses of our Aerospace Forces are associated with the lack of communication and information exchange system within the Aerospace Forces, as well as with other branches and types of troops, including air defense and the Navy, as well as the complete incompetence of those responsible for this.
With a properly built system of communication and data exchange, not only could there not be such losses, all capabilities would reach a completely different level both in terms of detecting and hitting targets and in terms of air defense and repelling attacks from land and sea. Not having this in our army in 2024 is a crime.
The saddest thing is that our country was once one of the leaders in the system of automated command and control, but the level of knowledge and competencies of each commander immediately became visible in it, and the stupidest sycophants began to sabotage it and ruined it, otherwise they would not have risen to the coveted stripes.

Well, yes, if you had stripes on, everything would be completely different. And the fact that the VKS are just beginning to come to their senses and put themselves in order, after almost three decades of “lack of kerosene” and all sorts of different reasons, is not taken into account at all? Because damn it has become fashionable to criticize stripes with or without reason, without being at all in the subject.

[reaper]

It’s good that the pilot is alive, that’s the main thing.
It’s bad that such an expensive plane was lost as a result of a malfunction(

[Nastia makarova]

Is su 27 expensive?......

[sailor roman]

Humans tend to make mistakes. That is why the pilot’s participation in the control of modern aircraft, especially during takeoff and landing thanks to technology, is automated. Despite this, the notorious “human factor” causes 50% of aircraft accidents. Despite the most thorough technical inspections before each flight, there is always the possibility of failure of any of the components of the most complex unit. Every year, in peacetime, in Russia and abroad, more than a hundred military and civilian aircraft catch fire and crash, usually in the first minutes after takeoff or before landing. In the 60-90 years, I had the opportunity more than once to lift pilots from the water and search for aircraft wreckage on the ground and always in the coastal strip of the sea.

[kig]

It’s like this now: if the Defense Ministry remains silent, it means they shot down their own people, but they don’t want to admit it. If they say there was a technical fault, it means they shot down their own people, but they are trying to confuse you and me. If the Ukrainians announce that it is them, everyone will forget everything and will unanimously prove that this is impossible. Let's wait.

[woodcutter]

Friendly air defense fire can only come from short-range air defenses such as arrow10, wasp, needle, willow, etc. Such losses are difficult to exclude. It is necessary to raise the lower threshold of the permitted height. Then it will become more difficult to hit ground and low-flying targets. Why doesn't anyone consider defeat by enemy means?

[Kostadinov]

Quote: IvanIvanov

A lot of friendly fire lately. Someone else's system doesn't work?

The system is turned off because it emits and the enemy can also use it.
In addition, the enemy can imitate an identification signal.
The best way is visual identification or coordination of air defense and aviation.

[woodcutter]

Does anyone know what friendly/foreign system is currently in use and is all equipment equipped with it?

[Marat Lyalin]

Graduated 42 years from Rvvaiu named after Alksnis
Like Engineer Null. But he loved flight safety as a subject. Colonel Karapetyan gave lectures... I was shocked by the number he cited, 50% of aircraft losses in WWII were non-combat losses! That is, every second plane!! This 50% can be broken down into pilot error and equipment failure. Judging by the combustion, it’s a failure.. But it could already be.. The aircraft technician left the eternal key drunk from lack of sleep, etc.... The engine’s service life has expired and a major overhaul needs to be done. Etc. Or just a breakdown.. That is, I don’t vote for the conspiracy theory, but the usual refusal!

[ZnachWest]

Up to 30% of all those shot down were friendly fire. One of the military officers wrote.

[ZnachWest]

The worst thing for the Moscow Region is if it was actually the Anlo-Saxons who shot down. They will bend over backwards to shut up or admit there is a problem.

[Sergey Khatylaev]

Well, at least he’s alive, otherwise the gay ones always survive for some reason, but ours don’t.

[Yves762]

Preliminarily, we are talking about the Su-35S fighter.

The operator talks about 2 ejected - what other Su-35S? Su-30 of some modification tea...