FT spoke about the locators of the Ukrainian ZVOOK system, which allow the Ukrainian Armed Forces to determine the type of flying missile or drone

A few days ago, the Commander-in-Chief of the US Air Force in Europe, James Hecker, during an interview, explained how the Ukrainian military manages to calculate the location and flight direction of Russian kamikaze UAVs "Geran-2".

According to him, on communication towers throughout Ukraine there are hundreds of phones with microphones that pick up the sound of the internal combustion engines installed on the drone, and a “specially trained” person records these signals and reports the location drone air defense forces.

However, as it turned out, Hecker did not reveal all the secrets. In their recent article, journalists from the Financial Times spoke about the locators of the Ukrainian ZVOOK system, which are capable of detecting not only a UAV, but also the type of flying missile by sound.

The material states that the sound receivers operate from generators and transmit information via the Starlink satellite Internet. Such devices are located on hills - roofs of houses, poles, cell towers, etc.

The essence of the ZVOOK system is that the above-mentioned locators pick up the sound signal, and the neural network processes the received information, transmitting data about the type of ammunition and the direction of its flight to the air defense forces of the Ukrainian Armed Forces.

According to the publication, dozens of such locators have already been installed throughout Ukraine.

Comments

[Arkady007]

You need to learn from your opponent. Otherwise, their drones fly 1000 miles and no one can answer the question from where.

[Bolt cutter]

Their drones fly 1000 miles

There is a high probability that “their” drones are launched by poor refugees from the edge of the forest a kilometer from the target. Microphones are useless here.

[Arkady007]

You can’t assemble a drone with a wingspan of 3 meters on the road.

[Bolt cutter]

you can't collect 3 meters on the road

In a garage, on an abandoned farm - easily.

[YOU]

It's a matter of asking where and how drones fly. Speaking of three meters, a 20-ton truck fell from the sky on the Crimean Bridge. That's it.

[Sergey-ADE2]

Easy, no PROBLEMS!!

[VPK-65]

Quote: Arkady007

You can’t assemble a drone with a wingspan of 3 meters on the road.

Why on the road if you can at the market.
The wings of enemy drones can grow in the Gardener market
https://bloknot.ru/obshhestvo/kry-l-ya-vrazheskih-bespilotnikov-mogut-rasti-na-ry-nke-sadovod-1260399.html
In the shadow of Sadovod: what the capital’s largest market hides
https://www.eg.ru/politics/4022592-v-teni-sadovoda-chto-skryvaet-samyy-bolshoy-rynok-stolicy/
The Investigative Committee will check the connection between Nisanov’s business and terrorism
https://russia-news.ru/ru/8-news/6302-proverkoj-svyazi-biznesa-nisanova-s-terrorizmom-zajmetsya-sledstvennyj-komitet

[Khokhol Polish farm laborer]

Drone launchers and gunners have already been caught in Belgorod.

[Lev_Russia]

The essence of the ZVOOK system is that the above-mentioned locators pick up the sound signal, and the neural network processes the received information

Maybe it’s not a sin for us to use this idea... We won’t be able to come up with something like that ourselves, we can use the “Chinese” method of acquisition... Just quietly paying the developers of the ZVOOK system for the technology... It’s even cheaper, but in the Outskirts now everything everything is sold and everything is bought... But it seems to me that we already have something similar (related to counter-battery warfare)... Although I may be wrong...

[Tagan]

This lunchtime idea is a hundred years old.

[NakedMan]

Of course I have. But this is expensive military equipment that will not be enough for the entire country. And here is a cheap analogue that is theoretically capable of covering the whole of Ukraine.
However, there will be little help from strikes near the border, more from drones flying over long distances. We need it too, but still not like Ukraine. Maybe that's why they don't itch.

[Ivan Ivanov]

I wonder why the idea of ​​placing sensors (cameras, locator microphones) at natural and artificial heights (such as weather balloons) has not yet become widespread in our country? More than 2 years of problem and no solution. By the way, from the heights it is easier to detect not only pig planes, but also the clearing from which they take off. The same methods can be used to fight fires and even pyromaniacs.

[alexoff]

You may also ask why hangars are not made for front-line aircraft. Because such additional emergency funds need to be found somewhere else, appointed someone responsible, given him strength, allocated funds, made sure they weren’t stolen, then figured out how to report if something didn’t work out right, and so on. And you can’t use these sensors at a parade. This is serious organizational work, and people start doing it only if the whole telegram is buzzing about it, and even the Kremlin says that it would be good for you to start moving there. And even with such noise they may not start

[Was mammoth]

"Interesting... ."
Sladkov recently posted a photo of an antidrone. The guys from the front are very pleased with the device and are asking for more. They cannot find the “author” who created such a wonderful thing. Oh, how!!!
PS May the Russian land not be depleted of talents, Samodelkins.

[Sever35]

"poor refugees" - they can find locals, money, money, money. With adjustments to the cellular network, it is possible to launch from a remote area of ​​the region.

[alexoff]

Well, such answers raise big questions about the work of the special services, that someone is assembling such units in garages

[Kotofeich]

There is a cell phone tower a kilometer from the target, and if they are equipped with at least microphones...

[grandfather_Kostya]

at least with microphones...

They once promised to equip all towers with automatic weather stations, but we don’t hear that they managed it...

[DenVB]

Quote: Bolt Cutter

There is a high probability that “their” drones are launched by poor refugees from the edge of the forest a kilometer from the target.

Nonsense. This quad can be launched a kilometer from the target. You can’t carry a large aircraft-type drone to the launch site in a backpack; it only has decent-sized wings. You can get away with this once or twice, but when they arrive in dozens, and no one has ever burned the launchers, it’s fantastic.

[2112vda]

It is foolish to underestimate the enemy. In Ukraine there was a developed aviation and aircraft engine industry and radio electronics. In some areas they were ahead of Russia. Take, for example, the same Caller ID, here they are seriously ahead of us. They had private companies engaged in piston engines, and they had no problems with the import of imported engines. Designing and manufacturing long-range UAVs is not difficult for them. I had to personally communicate with specialists from Ukraine who worked on light aircraft engines and light general aviation aircraft. Gentlemen, they are doing much better in this area than we are. They know the areas not covered by the radar field, they can easily bypass them, they have Starlink and assistance in space navigation. If they need a longer flight range of the UAV, they will provide it using the same 4-stroke engines produced in Austria, Germany and Belgium, they have no problems with this. The problems are in the heads of our leadership. Apparently, they have not yet fully realized what the absence of the same anti-aircraft “suicide mobiles” in the arsenal of our territorial defense, which does not exist, could lead to. Our management will know when chemicals begin to explode. factories. This is where it will really be “fun”; then “Crocus” will generally seem like a children’s matinee. If this state of affairs continues, we will have “poor refugees” from the territories of the Central and Southern Federal Districts.

[Nastia makarova]

We also have developments, it was used back in WWII, only it was a human ear and not a computer

[YOU]

Well, let's see what sound direction finders can do, from WWII times but in a modern way.

[Leshak]

That's why out of 10 launched, 15 were shot down. This is the “prodigy”.

[rocket757]

According to him, there are hundreds of telephones with microphones on communication towers throughout Ukraine,

. Maybe he’s not Deb Beal, he just doesn’t understand technology at all.
Although there may be translation problems...

[Ghost1]

Are there whole cell towers there for the fraternal people to call us?

[alystan]

FT spoke about the locators of the Ukrainian ZVOOK system, which allow the Ukrainian Armed Forces to determine the type of flying missile or drone

They pass it off as a new product. This method has been used at all times.

And it turns out that it acts as a locator

on communication towers throughout Ukraine there are hundreds of phones with microphones that pick up the sound of the internal combustion engines installed on the drone, and "specially trained" person records these signals and reports the location of the drone to air defense forces.

[Sever35]

Commander-in-Chief of the US Air Force in Europe James Hecker said during his interview

I probably wanted to say that NATO intelligence had nothing to do with it.

[Festus]

Quote: Lev_Russia

We can't come up with something like this ourselves...

Maybe you can't. But why do you think 144 million Russians cannot do this?

[hump]

Because the top is loyal

[Khokhol Polish farm laborer]

We have a Shaman, he sings a patriotic song, and everything will be fine

[hump]

And we are just going to create. In our army we don’t have enough to think

[phrases]

The Ukrainian STOOK system works much better. Non-brothers sell their relatives like glass containers.

[Maluck]

the neural network processes the received information, transmitting data about the type of ammunition and the direction of its flight to the air defense forces of the Ukrainian Armed Forces. According to the publication, dozens of such locators have already been installed throughout Ukraine.

There is no particular point in determining the direction; missiles and UAVs maneuver during the flight, especially since there are ONLY dozens of echolocators throughout the country. But the very fact of the flight is very valuable information.

[bone1]

One high-ranking half-wit blurted out some nonsense, it seemed they twirled their finger at their temple and forgot, but no, there were successors - there are also locators that pick up the sound signal and microphones that hear a rocket flying faster than the speed of sound

[DenVB]

Quote: Bone1

microphones that hear a rocket flying faster than the speed of sound

You can hear a rocket flying faster than the speed of sound.

[bone1]

Naturally, when it has already flown by

[DenVB]

Quote: Bone1

Naturally, when it has already flown by

Is this something funny?

[Moskal 55]

“As the publication reports, dozens of such locators have already been installed throughout Ukraine.”
Dozens??? Taking into account the length of the front line, sound attenuation, the very wide pattern of receiving antennas and the noisy range, we should be talking about at least thousands of such locators, and only to cover important objects.
[/quote]You need to learn from the enemy.[/quote] ???
And we must have at least tens of thousands of such locators in order to close the “border”. So the solution is acceptable, but “mediocre”. And Starlink is still required for the rapid transfer of information, the analogues of which we still have...

[Khokhol Polish farm laborer]

That's why DneproGRES no longer exists

[Teledroid]

We also have sound locators, but of course there are not so many of them...
But the idea of ​​using phones with microphones is actually great. Many even inexpensive phones have very sensitive microphones, and the range of perceived frequencies is greater than that of the average person. It may be better to analyze and filter surrounding sounds directly in the phone itself. It is expensive to transmit everything to the center with high resolution, although it is also possible via the Internet. In short, this way you can organize inexpensive wiretapping and determine what is flying and where. By the way, phones also have cameras... All you need is to pay programmers and organize the production of cheap plastic boxes to protect phones from the weather, and perhaps with a small horn to improve the sensitivity of the microphone.

[DenVB]

Quote: Teledroid

But the idea of ​​using phones with microphones is actually great. Many even inexpensive phones have very sensitive microphones

It is also easy to connect an external microphone with an amplifier and any sound wave concentrator.