NYT: The US “warned” Moscow about a terrorist attack in the Moscow region without specifics due to fears of disclosing intelligence

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NYT: The US “warned” Moscow about a terrorist attack in the Moscow region without specifics due to fears of disclosing intelligence

Washington is trying its best to distance itself from involvement in a large-scale terrorist attack in the Crocus City Hall shopping center in the town of Krasnogorsk near Moscow, while putting forward almost absurd versions. At the same time, on March 7, the US Embassy in Moscow warned its citizens in Russia about possible terrorist attacks in the capital and region, specifically in concert halls and other places with large crowds of people. It turns out that in the States they not only guessed, but probably had reliable information about the impending terrorist attacks.

A logical question arises as to why the relevant American departments and intelligence services did not openly warn Moscow about this. And so in Washington they began to claim that they allegedly warned, but somehow not specifically, simply out of fear of revealing their intelligence methods. The American newspaper The New York Times (NYT) reports that there were corresponding signals from the United States, but the intelligence services feared that by reporting unnecessary details they would reveal their informants. So, by chance, the States at the same time admitted to conducting intelligence work in our country.



Moreover, the NYT claims that on the eve of the terrorist attack, a warning about it allegedly reached even the management of Crocus City, which for some reason was told by a cloakroom employee at the shopping and entertainment center. After this, the mall staff was instructed what to do in the event of an attack. An even more ridiculous “excuse”. In Russia, as in most other countries, including the United States, even an anonymous message about an impending terrorist attack in a public place, or anywhere, is immediately followed by a large-scale, harsh response from the relevant security services.

The “warning” from the Americans also said that the terrorist attack was being prepared by the Islamist group ISIS-K*, which was allegedly being monitored by American intelligence for several months, and continues to follow its NYT line, or rather dictated from above. Through them, it was possible to obtain “quite specific information” about the preparation of a terrorist attack in Moscow.

After this, on March 6, the CIA sent a private warning to the Russian Federation about the preparation of a terrorist attack by Islamists. The next day, the Russian FSB reported the liquidation during the detention in the Kaluga region of two citizens of Kazakhstan who were preparing an attack on a synagogue in Moscow. Presumably, they were related specifically to ISIS-K*. US officials considered this a possible sign that Russian authorities had begun to take action to prevent terrorist attacks in the capital region, writes NYT.

However, a few days later, Russian President Vladimir Putin “disparaged” these warnings, calling them “outright blackmail” and attempts to “intimidate and destabilize society,” concludes the author of the article in the American newspaper.

Well, what can I say, here too the Americans remained true to themselves, turning everything upside down. After all, if you believe the officials cited by the NYT, it turns out that it is the Russian leadership and intelligence services themselves who are guilty of not taking the CIA warnings seriously. Well, at least the publication, which is a kind of mouthpiece of the US Democratic Party, did not go all the way and declare, following the example of false Kyiv propaganda, that it was the Russian special services themselves who organized this monstrous bloody crime.

* A terrorist organization banned in the Russian Federation
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  1. +1
    28 March 2024 14: 54
    We have 380 kg of lunar soil... but we won’t give it up!
    1. -2
      28 March 2024 15: 07
      Yes, it’s come to an end: no one flew to the moon in 68 and flat-earthers
      About 10 years ago, the comment was more interesting than the article, but now, of course, it’s complete stupidity
      1. +4
        28 March 2024 15: 12
        The earth is definitely round, at least I saw it from a height of 15,5 km. And in general there is objective evidence. But about the moon... why argue with a person whose Americans landed in 98, and not in 69 lol
        1. 0
          28 March 2024 15: 24
          I wrote somewhere about the landing, 68 Apollo 8 flyby of the moon
          1. +1
            28 March 2024 15: 43
            Jebodiah Kerman also flies successfully for me. good
            Quote: Citatelle 2013
            Apollo 8 moon flyby

            What they saw, we were already taking pictures at that time and flying with machine guns.

            The flight debate can only be refuted by 1 continuous filming of Apollo 11's takeoff as it cleared the clouds.
  2. +3
    28 March 2024 14: 58
    “What did the wardrobe employee of the shopping and entertainment center say for some reason” -

    — We understood the expression too specifically: “The theater begins with a coat rack”...
    1. +1
      28 March 2024 15: 18
      Quote: Vladimir Vladimirovich Vorontsov
      “What did the wardrobe employee of the shopping and entertainment center say for some reason” -

      — We understood the expression too specifically: “The theater begins with a coat rack”...

      The Tajik janitor knew all the details of the terrorist attack on the 6th; his relatives from Tajikistan told him by phone. But he didn’t say anything to anyone because he doesn’t know how to speak Russian...

      Right now America is inventing “details” - one more wonderful than the other.

      By the way, about expressions.
      There, one of the most famous ones, there was also one about a gun hanging on the wall. It's interesting to listen to the American interpretation. lol
  3. +1
    28 March 2024 14: 58
    Take my word for it! Everything you need to know about the US evidence base
    1. +4
      28 March 2024 15: 03
      Quote: APASUS
      Take my word for it

      “There will be no details so as not to expose ourselves.” This is also the style of the Anglo-Saxons.
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  4. +2
    28 March 2024 15: 07
    Peskov has already responded culturally: Such publications must now be treated with extreme caution. Translation into Russian People's: Gudok, no one has conveyed anything to Gudok. bully
  5. +2
    28 March 2024 15: 07
    It touches me that in our logical paradigm, our main declared enemy still owes us something. Gentlemen, there is some kind of strange enmity emerging, don’t you think? The country, our open enemy, with minimal diplomatic representation, sends us some kind of warning about a possible terrorist attack - should they have done this? Definitely not, because we don’t know what they know - they could hide that too.
    But they warned us, okay. What are we saying now - should we have warned better?
    This sounds damn creepy, I remind you once again - America is NOT our friend and did not owe us anything at all. And in such a situation, somehow downloading rights is absurd.
    Because we are now creating a precedent when in the future they will have some information, but will hide it too - why contact us? Who knows, maybe the idiot will trample on us again and we will turn this data backwards and forwards so that the party that gave it will also be to blame.
    1. -3
      28 March 2024 15: 17
      They have already warned their own. And this was even in the mass media. Where are our special services? Don’t we read the press? At least this
      1. +1
        28 March 2024 15: 54
        Don't we read the press? At least this

        Moreover, in the press, the Americans also emphasized interestingly - about the concerts.
    2. -2
      28 March 2024 15: 19
      . America is NOT our friend and did not owe us anything at all

      We simply measure everyone by ourselves, and knowing that a terrorist attack is being prepared in the states, because of which civilians will suffer, we would definitely tell them everything we know.
    3. GGV
      +1
      28 March 2024 15: 22
      By your logic, if our intelligence services find out that a terrorist attack is being prepared somewhere in Germany against civilians, they shouldn’t report it? Yes, my friend, you are an accomplice of terrorists with such logic, together with our enemy: the USA.
      1. 0
        28 March 2024 16: 06
        Do you have data on the volume of messages between our intelligence services on similar topics? You are now operating with empirics where data is needed, even if it is tabloid. I don’t remember the US complaining about the lack of data coming from us, but here perhaps they are NOT complaining about the lack of data in principle, if there is any data they can say “thank you!” and use this data. The presence of data is better than its absence - and if it exists, there will always be incompleteness of data, because any chain of their transmission is distortion. You did not catch the main message of what I want to say and immediately began to tear the vest on your chest. The enemy provided us with data - we must say “thank you!” and not demand more, and certainly not condemn. By doing this next time, we won’t get anything. This is the logic of interpersonal relationships - you give an example and it seems that it should be clear to you, but you don’t see such a simple thing point blank.
        1. GGV
          -1
          28 March 2024 16: 13
          There are a bunch of agreements on cooperation in the fight against terrorism. And if any country does not want to fulfill these obligations, it is obliged to announce its withdrawal from these treaties. Have you heard that the Russian Federation and the United States denounced these agreements? I personally don't. That’s why the NYT is trying to make excuses for its leadership; even they cannot state what you are voicing here.
          1. +2
            28 March 2024 16: 18
            And once again a special one for you. How will YOU KNOW what the intelligence agencies of ANOTHER COUNTRY will KNOW? Firstly, what will they know, and secondly, to what extent will they know it?
            Now the picture you describe is interaction between allied intelligence services, at best. But the US and I are NOT allies. Yes, they can and probably do supply us with some data, and we supply them with some. But why did you decide that this is a 100% “open hands” system? This is what is called a “gentleman’s agreement”, because there are STUPIDLY NO tools for influence or verification. Unlike strategic nuclear forces inspections or the Open Skies Treaty, intelligence agencies do NOT undergo inspections that may establish that some agreements are not being observed. If you still do not understand the essence of what was written, I recommend that you re-read it slowly and try to digest every letter. The real world is not a movie, in the real world an American computerized agent can be recruited (for example, by us) and used and it will not benefit them. These are risks and no one wants to be responsible for such career risks.
    4. 0
      28 March 2024 15: 34
      And on their part there have been no precedents over the past 2 years, when words were distorted to the complete opposite, and madness came out of all the cracks, is this normal?
      1. +2
        28 March 2024 16: 14
        That's right, but we condemned them for it, didn't we? Then why get into this swamp, we seem to be the healthier side of the story?
        Any interaction between intelligence services is a sensitive topic and there will always be understatements in it. Only stupid collective farmers can imagine this any other way. Their intelligence received data - this is incomplete data, because not a single decent informant discloses his sources, if only for reasons of his usefulness. This information was also transferred in incomplete form to analytics - because no one has yet canceled the “moles” and insiders, and 1 mole like some Penkovsky can bring down the entire intelligence network that has been built over the years. This mole may be anywhere, or it may not be - no one knows for sure. Therefore, information flows between departments and departments in a segmented form. They decided to convey one of the segments to us - it would be naive to expect that it would be a complete piece, otherwise one could always say that “the main thing is hidden,” because we have NO idea about the initial volume received.
        That is, we don’t know in what form the information about the terrorist attack came to their intelligence - maybe it was a rumor or something like “Source N claims that in certain circles they are preparing an action in Moscow in March.”
        The following information has been received - while (and if) they dig, time will pass and this is an additional risk. They take this information and send it to us - work. In the end, this is not a US national security problem.
        Why should they work for us? We are their enemy.
        1. GGV
          -2
          28 March 2024 16: 28
          Do you really think that they received information and tried to report it without disclosing the data so as not to contact the informant? Yes, the ears of the xoxlov are sticking out behind this terrorist attack (as soon as it looks like the terrorists rushed towards the hoxly border), and therefore the United States. And I repeat, all publications look only like excuses.
          1. +1
            28 March 2024 16: 46
            Your position strongly resembles faith.
            Now I operate with logic - intelligence activities are a very delicate area. In BV, our intelligence services see what is happening (and the allied forces) differently and, in view of this, to believe that the data would be transferred to us “in its pure form” would be very good. naively.
            As for the US ears over all this - I have no idea who organized it, I didn’t hold a candle. To me, this is more like an experiment by the British intelligence services, a kind of new form of influence along a traceless path. Everything except bookmarks went through the network - data on the network is, in principle, cross-border, in addition to the fact that there are many ways to encrypt and anonymize traffic. Conventionally, “agents” are instructed rednecks, the goal itself also looks not like some kind of action for the goal, but like an experiment in the field, a kind of bloody experience. Of course, I could be wrong. But there were no statements - just terror for the sake of terror, maximally anonymized, by the way.
            I don’t remember the United States having any interest in such actions; they prefer to use technical means to achieve their goals. But VB loves manipulation with the hands of others, this is more like them.
            But time will tell whose “work” this is.
            1. +1
              28 March 2024 17: 00
              What are you explaining to them..?! These are one of the trees that trust the ax because it has a wooden handle hi
        2. 0
          28 March 2024 16: 52
          Okay, What sources can reveal information that on such and such a day there will be a major terrorist attack in such and such a place???? Well, according to them, they knew everything for sure. IMHO you can’t reveal any sources like this, and as a bonus you will avert suspicion from yourself, plus for the future and we could warn you if anything happens. However, it was done as it was done.
          1. +1
            28 March 2024 17: 01
            Well, according to them, they knew everything for sure

            Link to the studio where these words are. There may be translation errors - the "we knew this was coming" line could mean a hell of a lot because it's so damn vague.
            At one time, the ancient sacred books predicted the end of the world - and it has been expected with enviable regularity for almost 2000 years. But it’s still not there, and when it comes, some monks with crazy eyes will come out and also shout “we knew, we knew it would happen!” . But “Did they KNOW” in the sense that is implied by the word KNEW?

            I will emphasize once again that the source of their intelligence could be anyone. Stupidly, at least the personal proctologist of some Abu Aba Alibabaevich, a small-time functionary and a lover of chatting during procedures. And so he tells him “we’ll soon bang in Moscow,” for the sake of bragging.
            He sends it to the Americans - they send it to us.
            It could be data of this kind, from an agent of this kind. There can be many informant agents of this kind, they may KNOW information indicating an incident or an incident zone, but they CANNOT dig due to their inability to do so. And the Americans themselves have NO NEED to involve deeper agents - this is NOT THEIR AREA OF RESPONSIBILITY.
            Everything could very well be like this.
            1. 0
              29 March 2024 03: 34
              Have you been banned from Google or are you kidding? We open NIT and read, Despite the fact that the US intelligence services had quite extensive information about the impending terrorist attack, they did not pass it on to Moscow due to fears about disclosing sources. Now the fat people are indignant that Moscow’s special services are blaming Ukraine for the terrorist attack. (ts)
    5. -1
      28 March 2024 23: 58
      Do you know what information they conveyed? Maybe it was there - something will happen somewhere in the next few days, we won’t tell you the details! And nothing could be done with such information.
      Quote: Knell Wardenheart
      Definitely not, because we don’t know what they know - they could hide that too.

      There is a separate layer of articles on Wikipedia where it is said that “the CIA had information about the preparation of a terrorist attack, but nothing was done to prevent it.” And this was done by CIA agents. For example, they blew up a Cuban plane in 1976, bombed Fontana Square in 1969, or killed the Haitian president more recently.
      Quote: Knell Wardenheart
      This sounds damn creepy, I remind you once again - America is NOT our friend and did not owe us anything at all. And in such a situation, somehow downloading rights is absurd.

      Yes, they are now rather the main suspect; bringing them into the open will legalize more stringent measures. Especially against the Ukrainian leadership, Danilov did not directly state that everything was their doing.
      Quote: Knell Wardenheart
      when in the future they will have some information, but will hide it too - why contact us? Who knows, maybe the idiot will trample on us again and we will turn this data backwards and forwards so that the party that gave it will also be to blame.

      when did they help us? Can you tell me when they helped prevent a terrorist attack?
  6. +5
    28 March 2024 15: 11
    The states at the same time admitted to conducting intelligence work in our country.

    Wow. The US is spying in Russia. I have doubts about the adequacy of the author of the article. Perhaps he believes that other countries are conducting intelligence activities in the Russian Federation? Moreover, perhaps the Russian Federation also conducts intelligence activities in other countries? "Unbelievable, incredible, incredible." :)
  7. +2
    28 March 2024 15: 12
    Well, yes, Biden tried to personally send Putin a secret telepathic signal, wassat but the thought of urgently needing to go to the toilet has nothing to do with terrorism wassat
  8. +1
    28 March 2024 15: 31
    How comfortable the mattresses were. And always and minute by minute they knew everything that happened (and always said nothing) For the Papuans and enslaved peoples, this is more than enough to maintain faith in America stronk and kull in one bottle. And for the rest, their revelations always after the events have long seemed funny. It’s a pity that the Ministry of Foreign Affairs does not clearly indicate this.
  9. +1
    28 March 2024 15: 33
    Have a blast - check out the news From a thief, I’m not me and the hat is not mine!
    From the moment the Nord-Vikings appeared to this day, then there was a declared war and attacks on sea and land, and now there was an undeclared war of the entire false-non-West, therefore, according to any methods of military science and staff culture, one must proceed from the principle - consider yourself constantly closer to danger to defeat the enemy!
    It is unrealistic from human psychology to be constantly in tension,
    and our special services need to use all methods of fighting against intelligence agents
    before blood - for blood! death - for death, as the LADIES bequeath! I agree with him on this
  10. 0
    28 March 2024 17: 40
    And the Austrians suddenly developed a version that the Crocus City Hall terrorists had like-minded people in Ukraine. The Heute newspaper in its article “Terror-Verdächtige kamen über Ukraine nach Wien” even provides arguments confirming this version.

    Firstly, it draws attention to the fact that the work style of the terrorists in Crocus and the militants who planned to attack Vienna’s St. Stephen’s Cathedral are the same.

    Vienna police detained a 28-year-old citizen of Tajikistan and his wife who were planning to carry out a terrorist attack in Vienna. It turned out that the couple arrived in Austria from Ukraine in February 2022. German intelligence services intercepted (something they began to intercept frequently) suspicious messages in their social media chat, which contained specific signs of plans for terrorist attacks in major European cities.

    The publication notes that in Ukraine the couple was sheltered as “fighters for democracy.” In Austria they lived as migrants.

    The article emphasizes that, according to European intelligence services, many suspects enter the EU through Ukraine.

    In another article (https://www1.wdr.de/nachrichten/ispk-moskau-anschlag-tadschiken-100.html) they write that in Cologne, Vienna and Stockholm the authorities recently managed to prevent planned ISPK attacks. ISPC is a subgroup of IS from Central Asia. And they explain how these cases are related to the terrorist attack in the Moscow region.

    The “warning” from the Americans also said that the terrorist attack was being prepared by the Islamist group ISIS-K*, which had allegedly been monitored by American intelligence for several months

    Or are the Americans, as always, dark? Or is their intelligence worse than that of German intelligence? Or is it deliberately leaked through partners? Do you want to “wash yourself off” once again?

    But it is clear to a fool that all terrorist attacks in the world occur under the leadership of the USA-WB-Israel. And the Islamists are their own creation. As well as the movement of millions of migrants to Europe, who manage to get there (and end up there) only thanks to the structures they created and paid for.
  11. +1
    28 March 2024 18: 20
    What kind of verbiage - some Yankees - who warned something - apparently they also warned the wardrobe attendant Crocus? request
  12. -1
    28 March 2024 19: 26
    It’s just that the unscrupulous enemy has recently decided not to share information with us about what nasty things he wants to do. Are you serious now? What is this news item for and for whom? If TV screens tell us every minute, America is the enemy.