The ex-chief of CIA operations in Russia complained about the “uncivilized treatment” of terrorists in the Russian Federation

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The ex-chief of CIA operations in Russia complained about the “uncivilized treatment” of terrorists in the Russian Federation

The former head of the CIA operations department in Russia, Steve Hall, with absolutely inappropriate indignation in this case, spoke about the allegedly “uncivilized treatment” in the Russian Federation of terrorists who killed 139 people.

Hall noted that there are significant differences between Russian and Western values. He did not rule out that if such treatment of terrorists had been in the United States or anywhere else in the West, there would certainly have been people who would have fully approved of it, saying that they deserved it and it was necessary to follow the “tit for tat” principle. .



At the same time, the American intelligence officer believes that Russia is supposedly not a completely civilized society. According to Hall, the principles of humane treatment of suspects are not observed at all in the Russian Federation, which allegedly indicates the absence of the rule of law.

It is worth noting that such statements were made by a representative of the American structure, which demonstrated an absolutely inhumane attitude towards prisoners of Abu Ghraib and Guantanamo Bay prisons, where those suspected of any anti-American activity, in most cases far from terrorism, are detained for a long time without trial or investigation, with continuously subjecting them to the most sophisticated tortures, including waterboarding. The attitude of the US authorities towards its own citizens is not much more humane - the country has never stopped using the death penalty and sentencing those convicted to long prison terms even for minor crimes.
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  1. +28
    26 March 2024 20: 29
    Pot calls the kettle black! Better remember about Guantanamo!
    1. +12
      26 March 2024 20: 34
      Quote: vasyliy1
      Pot calls the kettle black!

      They're children laughing
      1. +15
        26 March 2024 22: 03
        The ex-chief of CIA operations in Russia complained about the “uncivilized treatment” of terrorists in the Russian Federation

        It's not even worth commenting.
        1. 0
          27 March 2024 09: 13
          Terrorists need to cut off their eggs and hang them on the fence of the US and British embassies. So that they understand everything that awaits those who work for the Anglo-Saxons.
    2. +16
      26 March 2024 20: 36
      principles of humane treatment are not observed
      And among the Americans, humanism comes out of their ears! negative
      1. +5
        26 March 2024 21: 03
        Quote: marchcat
        principles of humane treatment are not observed
        And among the Americans, humanism comes out of their ears! negative

        They spread their humanism around the world. They don’t feel sorry for him, they are ready to share him with everyone https://vz.ru/infographics/2023/3/2/1201520.html?ysclid=lu8ogv80ba208165110
        1. +1
          26 March 2024 21: 15
          Let me add - there are those who sympathize with them, where do the degenerates come from? Here's the question. [media=https://dzen.ru/video/watch/660302784574211d9851cef7?share_to=link]
        2. +3
          26 March 2024 23: 10
          Quote: Jura
          They are peddlers of their gu(m)anism all over the world.

          There is still one letter m missing. laughing
          1. +2
            26 March 2024 23: 25
            Quote: guest
            Quote: Jura
            They are peddlers of their gu(m)anism all over the world.

            There is still one letter m missing. laughing

            Exactly!
    3. +12
      26 March 2024 20: 37
      And these “civilized” ones, who destroyed Serbia, Iraq, Syria, Libya, Afghanistan and created modern concentration camps with cages for prisoners who have been waiting for years for at least some kind of trial, are teaching us how to pick our noses...??? Well, insolent... am
    4. +5
      26 March 2024 21: 22
      vasyliy1
      Today, 20: 29
      Pot calls the kettle black! Better remember about Guantanamo!
      On behalf of and on behalf of the head of the transport department, I have to say: it is proposed, in order to exchange experience, to organize the sending of a group of the FSB, Investigative Committee, the Prosecutor's Office and the judiciary and the pre-trial detention center of the Russian Federation to familiarize themselves with the methods of educational work of suspects and prisoners in the Guantanamo Bay prison base (Cuba) and on the mainland US!
    5. +2
      26 March 2024 21: 26
      Quote: vasyliy1
      Pot calls the kettle black! Better remember about Guantanamo!

      They remember everything and know everything very well. These words of "sympathy" are ordinary crocodile tears... A method to divert attention from the real terrorist attack, its Asian perpetrators and ukrokuratorakhessbu. Oh, the Russian barbarians are sadists. They are torturing the unfortunate Tajik sheep... Oh, the dear terrorist killers trained by the Ukronazis... The public is crying with sympathy for the terrorists. And she doesn’t care about the death of people killed by Kohls and their living drones. ..
      1. +4
        26 March 2024 22: 48
        The appearance of the anthropoids when they arrived at the court was, to put it mildly, stale. I didn’t know until now that the ear has the ability to get rid of the head on its own; it probably wanted to go for a walk. Mock's attention was drawn to the fact that our media seemed to deliberately focus on their appearance. I agree that this became a warning to various clients of the SBU, who, on a tip, for small money, were offered to commit minor dirty tricks such as filling ballot papers with green paint or setting something on fire. At the same time, they assured that this would result in a maximum fine. Exhortations do not help. Even a female professor was inspired to commit small acts. Maybe when they look at the faces of the villains, they will get scared.
    6. +2
      26 March 2024 21: 33
      vasyliy1 (Vasily)
      Well, don’t you understand - the method of intensive interrogation and torture are completely different concepts! Guantanamo Bay has extremely intense interrogations!
    7. +6
      26 March 2024 22: 27
      American “justice” Milosevic, the President of Yugoslavia, was brought to death in the dungeons of The Hague, not just a terrorist, but a normal, kind, honest person, and then he was acquitted, they say he was not guilty
    8. GGV
      0
      27 March 2024 08: 11
      Not only that, they are also recruiting them in Guantanamo, the entire leadership of ISIS has passed through US prisons and there has not been a single terrorist attack in the US or Israel, and they cannot even say a word in their direction. So whose sons of bitches are they?
    9. 0
      27 March 2024 12: 57
      Quote: vasyliy1
      Pot calls the kettle black! Better remember about Guantanamo!

      It's high time to help the Cubans shut down this viper! Gestapo dungeons on the land of free Cuba - somehow it doesn’t fit...
  2. +14
    26 March 2024 20: 30
    Let him tell the Indians
  3. +9
    26 March 2024 20: 31
    Lying hypocrites am
    The text of your comment is too short and in the opinion of the site administration does not carry useful information.
  4. +11
    26 March 2024 20: 37
    Amazing people, these Americans... Abu Ghraib, what is this?! Sanatorium for Iraqis?!
  5. +8
    26 March 2024 20: 38
    The USA is such a civilized society that it shows a humane attitude towards terrorists, but an inhumane attitude towards civilians. What can I say - an Evil Empire with a perverted understanding of humanism.
    1. +4
      26 March 2024 20: 52
      You see, humanism only applies to... well, how can I put it... only to... people. Accordingly, if a humanist does not consider someone to be a human being, then he may well allow himself to spread rot, kill them, and at least tear them apart alive, without seeing this as any contradiction to his humanistic beliefs wink
  6. +4
    26 March 2024 20: 41
    Yes, I meant that dirty Yankee.
    Their methods of work, in my opinion, are known throughout the world. Although there is an unspoken agreement between the special services that they would not use physical influence on the agents they come across. It's us, the Yankees and the Britons. And all the intelligence services of these three countries treated the paddling pools and “God’s chosen ones” with contempt, because they did not hesitate to use everything against the agent they came across. And after the USSR, the Yankees seem to have followed the path of dirty methods. Lavrov told how the Yankees tried to recruit our diplomat at the pharmacy (!), where he bought medicine that we did not have for a relative and time was ticking by the clock to send him on a plane home. So these bastards marinated in our pharmacy for several hours, knowing that every hour was worth the weight of life.
  7. +3
    26 March 2024 20: 44
    And this despite the fact that the USA, Great Britain, France, Germany, etc. do not see or do not want to see the torture and other cruel treatment that people who sympathize with Russia and support Russia are subjected to in Ukraine. But they didn’t kill anyone. It’s clear “this is something else.” Double standards in action.
  8. +7
    26 March 2024 20: 45
    The key word here is "towards the suspects". Mister knows that the terrorist attack was carried out not by these Tajiks, but by the independents themselves?
  9. +1
    26 March 2024 20: 45
    Former CIA Russia Operations Chief Steve Hall
    ...one thing is not clear...why would the film “Dumb and Dumber” be reincarnated at VO?....well, this misunderstanding blurted out something...well, if only there was a serious world organization that would take such scumbags into circulation. ...and so...why bother with this?
    1. 0
      27 March 2024 04: 02
      Quote: Crimean partisan 1974
      .well, this misunderstanding blurted out something...

      Quote: Crimean partisan 1974
      Former CIA Russia Operations Chief Steve Hall

      Actually, he worries about his own charges. How to recruit now when they lose their ears and teeth during detention? What if these “Russian barbarians” also lifted the moratorium on the death penalty?? Incl. and for the curators of these “unfortunates”?
      Can you imagine a detained MI6 or CIA agent without ears?
      And how can you go to the gallows in such an indecent appearance?
  10. +1
    26 March 2024 20: 49
    Just an incredible level of hypocrisy.
  11. 0
    26 March 2024 20: 51
    And in Guantanamo, everyone is in orange overalls and with shackles on their feet: while the lights in the cells are on around the clock, the music is blaring and water is dripping into the crown of the head...

    True, the Russian security forces have adopted the American methods of wringing the hands of prisoners. But this is nonsense and this is completely different.
  12. +1
    26 March 2024 20: 53
    The time will come for the Americans to get theirs in full. From Afghans, Libyans, Iraqis, Syrians, Serbs, Latin Americans and even further down the list, add it yourself.
    And the Russians will humanely watch the triumph of justice from afar!
  13. +2
    26 March 2024 20: 56
    It’s not funny, moral teachings about humanity from the Americans - these devils who turned Serbia into ruins, and into purgatory Iraq, Libya (robbed to the bone), Syria, Afghanistan, turned into a continuous heroin plantation.
    Would be ashamed.
    But I’ll be honest - with both hands for the inhumane attitude towards terrorists, hanging on pig intestines and after that, the complete destruction of a dead carcass, without even the right to a grave. Mercy here is evil.
  14. +5
    26 March 2024 21: 04
    The former head of the CIA operations department in Russia, Steve Hall, with absolutely inappropriate indignation in this case, spoke about the allegedly “uncivilized treatment” in the Russian Federation of terrorists who killed 139 people.
    and this toad has the nerve to say such a thing?!!!
    1. +1
      26 March 2024 21: 06
      toad (normal text)
  15. fiv
    +1
    26 March 2024 21: 13
    Well, basically, that’s all we wanted to say about hypocrisy. Or is he just stupid?
  16. +1
    26 March 2024 21: 15
    so sensitive with foreign terrorists, for some reason he doesn’t remember the death penalty with nitrogen for them in his own country, however, they have exactly the same views in everything, they notice everything about others and don’t see it in themselves - scum
  17. +1
    26 March 2024 21: 15
    How do we understand “CIA Operations Department in Russia”?
  18. +2
    26 March 2024 21: 21
    look at your snout mattress! What are your guys cooking up!!!
  19. +3
    26 March 2024 21: 21
    According to Hall, the principles of humane treatment are not observed at all in the Russian Federation

    This was stated by a representative of the state, whose soldiers massively cut off the ears of the Vietnamese and poured napalm on them, this is said by the representative of the state in whose prisons prisoners are tortured and the legislation includes the death penalty even for criminals. Finally, this is stated by a representative of the state, under whose strict leadership terrorist organizations were created and are being created on the territory of foreign countries. I'm afraid that when we become as "civilized" as these representatives, they will like it even less.
  20. -2
    26 March 2024 21: 23
    I don’t care about the ex-Crushers and their opinions, but I also didn’t understand this bloody circus with ear cutting. These are not our methods. Why do we need to turn into Banderaites?

    I understand that sometimes you need to quickly get a bandit to talk if there is no doubt about his guilt, but for this there are other methods that are not so savage. And there’s absolutely no point in filming this, and even posting it to the whole world.
    1. +1
      26 March 2024 23: 09
      Quote: DenVB
      but for this there are other methods, not so savage.

      eg?!
      1. -4
        26 March 2024 23: 16
        Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
        eg?!

        Why do you need it?
        1. 0
          27 March 2024 07: 39
          that is, shaking the air
    2. 0
      26 March 2024 23: 24
      Quote: DenVB
      I don’t care about the ex-Crushers and their opinions, but I also didn’t understand this bloody circus with ear cutting. These are not our methods. Why do we need to turn into Banderaites?

      I understand that sometimes you need to quickly get a bandit to talk if there is no doubt about his guilt, but for this there are other methods that are not so savage. And there’s absolutely no point in filming this, and even posting it to the whole world.

      Unfortunately, people’s nerves are now so shaken that they don’t understand this.
      Whatever the competent services do with terrorists for investigation, they should in no way expose it to the public.
  21. +1
    26 March 2024 21: 32
    It is our business how to treat those who shot at unarmed people. And the video was posted on the Internet, not for bragging, but for intimidation as a warning to other idiots who would also want to shoot. Killing a person for nothing and losing an ear seems like a very incommensurable price.
    1. -3
      26 March 2024 23: 16
      Quote: BrandonHeat
      It is our business how to treat those who shot at unarmed people. And the video was posted on the Internet, not for bragging, but for intimidation as a warning to other idiots who would also want to shoot. Killing a person for nothing and losing an ear seems like a very incommensurable price.

      The problem is that such treatment does not comply with our established rules of criminal law.
      1. -2
        27 March 2024 02: 10
        I absolutely agree with you. Just understand, it has happened in history that if civilized, adequate and ordinary people live next to barbarians, then all attempts to instill humanity in the barbarians end in failure. A simple example is the Roman Empire, the Byzantine Empire - they also brought civilization to the savages. We tried to teach them to wipe their butts not with a stone, but with a piece of paper. Read books and learn to write, so that later you can make some discoveries. But barbarians do not need this, they consider this as weakness. But when they are punished by methods of violence, the barbarian begins to be afraid. And the savage understands only fear. They may hate us, but the main thing is that they are afraid. Fear is the best medicine, now not every oligophrenic will agree to such shooting. And as it showed, the martyrs among them are so-so, because they do not run away but end with their lives. So recruiting them is no longer so easy. No negativity, all the best.
        1. 0
          27 March 2024 09: 26
          I absolutely agree with you. Just understand, it has happened in history that if civilized, adequate and ordinary people live next to barbarians, then all attempts to instill humanity in the barbarians end in failure. A simple example is the Roman Empire, the Byzantine Empire - they also brought civilization to the savages. We tried to teach them to wipe their butts not with a stone, but with a piece of paper. Read books and learn to write, so that later you can make some discoveries. But barbarians do not need this, they consider this as weakness. But when they are punished by methods of violence, the barbarian begins to be afraid. And the savage understands only fear. They may hate us, but the main thing is that they are afraid. Fear is the best medicine, now not every oligophrenic will agree to such shooting. And as it showed, the martyrs among them are so-so, because they do not run away but end with their lives. So recruiting them is no longer so easy. No negativity, all the best.
          but that's not how it's done. Let them extract testimony as they wish, but WITHOUT publishing it online. But then publicly put a sign on your chest, a noose around your neck and let them dance the last dance.
      2. 0
        27 March 2024 17: 54
        Law enforcement agencies simply did not have time to scrape around with terrorists and have polite conversations; they needed quick evidence to understand whether they had missed anyone. The public demanded quick action, maybe someone’s acquaintances died there, their nerves simply gave out. People, on the contrary, would not understand if they were presented in a flourishing form.
        1. 0
          27 March 2024 19: 02
          Quote: Irsa
          Law enforcement agencies simply did not have time to scrape around with terrorists and have polite conversations; they needed quick evidence to understand whether they had missed anyone. The public demanded quick action, maybe someone’s acquaintances died there, their nerves simply gave out. People, on the contrary, would not understand if they were presented in a flourishing form.

          They don’t need to be presented in bloom. But put the camera away already!! I don’t understand why people don’t realize such obvious things themselves.
  22. +1
    26 March 2024 21: 37
    Mark Lane wrote well about the “humanism” of Americans in his book “Through the Words of Americans.” Abu Ghraib and Guantanamo are child's play.
  23. +1
    26 March 2024 21: 38
    The crooks somehow take other people's ears to heart. Let them worry about their own.
  24. +2
    26 March 2024 22: 01
    The vile nit would be silent about a civilized attitude! Freak!
  25. +1
    26 March 2024 22: 14
    "Aux usa et e Europe...' c'est sans doute pour cela que la cia a des prisons 'secrètes' ...ailleurs
  26. +3
    26 March 2024 22: 20
    Considering the frenzy with which the terrorists had previously killed defenseless innocent people, as far as I know, including women and children, and how these animals cut open the neck of a man lying on the ground with a knife and proudly posed, the reaction of the Russian security forces is completely understandable. If I had been there, I would have slammed the butt of my rifle into that bastard's face in the same way. What is typical: they showed off, killing defenseless people, but when the military chased after them and grabbed them harshly, they squealed like little pigs - no sympathy for the scum!

    As for the Yankees: those who sit in glass houses should not throw stones, and even more so those who finance, arm and train terrorism should keep their mouths shut. The Maidan regime, beloved by the Americans, is a vivid example of a state in which terrorism, lawlessness and torture are part of the operating method from the very beginning. Anyone who is truly interested knows this truth; The West will not be able to constantly hide it with the help of its lying media.
  27. +1
    26 March 2024 22: 21
    Probably Russia wants to set an example of its attitude towards the terrorist Breivik from Norway.

    On July 22, 2011, he carried out an explosion in Oslo and a mass shooting of vacationing youth on the island of Utøya. And all this in one day. The attacks killed 77 people and injured more than 150.

    Breivik, who was given a solitary cell equipped especially for him instead of a cesspool for life imprisonment. The chamber measures 24 sq. meters, it has 3 rooms - a gym, an office and a bedroom. There is also a courtyard where the "shooter" can breathe fresh air. He does not have access to the Internet, but has a computer with built-in offline Wikipedia. In 2012-20, Breivik constantly wrote letters to lawyers complaining about mistreatment. Allegedly, the coffee is served cold, and the food is heated in the microwave. He also complained about the constant presence of guards and the inability to communicate with other prisoners in the prison. I wrote a letter to the prison administration demanding that he be transferred to a general cell.

    We need the death penalty for such animals who have tasted human blood
    1. +1
      26 March 2024 22: 42
      Quote: Victor Ar
      Probably Russia wants to set an example of its attitude towards the terrorist Breivik from Norway.

      On July 22, 2011, he carried out an explosion in Oslo and a mass shooting of vacationing youth on the island of Utøya. And all this in one day. The attacks killed 77 people and injured more than 150.

      You remember Breivik well here. He spoke out against multiculturalism and the importation of migrants. And he attacked not some random vacationing youth, but a youth camp of the Norwegian Labor Party, which encourages immigration from Muslim countries.
  28. +2
    26 March 2024 22: 34
    At the same time, the American intelligence officer believes that Russia is supposedly not a completely civilized society.

    We are cultural. Civilized robber planters cannot understand... request
  29. 0
    26 March 2024 22: 38
    With whom? - Who do we treat uncivilized??? With terrorists? How should you handle them? Well, let him teach, their police immediately start shooting at a person who seems suspicious, and all their terrorists are in the Guantanauma prison in Cuba, and we have heard a lot about how they treat terrorists, so we should keep quiet!
    1. -3
      26 March 2024 23: 13
      Quote: SEVERIN
      With whom? - Who do we treat uncivilized??? With terrorists? How should you handle them?

      The problem is not with them. The problem is that if you do not follow the rules that you have set for yourself, then these double standards will work against you.
      1. 0
        27 March 2024 07: 46
        Obliterator
        -2
        Yesterday, 23: 13
        - and when we had double standards with terrorists, I don’t remember something, or you have some information - make it public! And I ask you not to poke me - we are not at the market.
        1. +1
          27 March 2024 09: 35
          when we had double standards with terrorists, I don’t remember something, or you have some information - make it public! And I ask you not to poke me - we are not at the market
          and it wasn’t about you, our vulnerable one. double standards are not with terrorism. Law enforcement officers should not be allowed to publicly violate the law. This only gives us a reason for such statements.
  30. -1
    26 March 2024 23: 03
    According to Hall, the principles of humane treatment of suspects are not observed at all in the Russian Federation, which allegedly indicates the absence of the rule of law.

    Well, if the Americans are complaining, it means we are doing everything right, comrades. It’s just that now it will be more difficult for the Tsrushka gentlemen to recruit performers, since a lot of people all over our country and abroad have seen how harshly our specialists will then take them by the ass and cut off their ears before the trial!
    They will also cut off the head and plant out the kidneys, so that they will glow red. Let them look at this carefully and think about whether it’s worth recruiting with the CIA and committing terrorist attacks here!
    Either way, they won’t have a life, and they’ll never get 500 thousand rubles!
  31. -2
    26 March 2024 23: 10
    Unfortunately, there is some truth in his words. Current Russian legislation interprets cutting off ears and connecting the reproductive organs to a tapik quite specifically - this is a crime.
    Yes, these animals definitely do not deserve humane treatment. I don’t feel sorry for their ears and especially their genitals, but why leak all this into the network?
  32. +1
    26 March 2024 23: 40
    And I remember well how American humanism was realized during the Vietnam War in the form of napalm, ball bombs, Orange Agent, and Song My. I was a schoolboy at that time.
  33. +1
    26 March 2024 23: 50
    Oh, and in the West, if such a terrorist declared himself a transgender, they would simply let him go.
    1. +1
      26 March 2024 23: 56
      No, they wouldn't let me go. Admiral would be appointed
  34. +1
    26 March 2024 23: 55
    Well, that's all right. Inhumane. They don't torture. Is it really possible to treat people like that?
    Prisoners from American prisons to Russian pre-trial detention centers wanted
  35. +1
    27 March 2024 01: 16
    Scum shields scum. There is no logic in her words. This is just the picture.
  36. +1
    27 March 2024 01: 33
    They made him an ex because he was tired of everyone with his hypocrisy. Now I decided to earn extra money. Tongue.
  37. 0
    27 March 2024 11: 16
    "The attitude of the US authorities towards its own citizens is not much more humane..."
    This is true, maybe even in the USA the attitude is less humane than ours. But they are Satanists, devils, and we are Orthodox, we are at different poles, we are Good...
    After all, before the decision of the court and investigation, if the country is truly civilized, you really need to be humane. Not because I feel sorry for the monsters and murderers, but because civilization is the LAW. And the law says that no one can be considered a criminal until the court (investigation) determines this. Otherwise, if tomorrow your or your child’s face is broken, and then it turns out that you are not guilty, what will you say? And where is such a punishment prescribed?! And how then are we different from them?
  38. -1
    27 March 2024 12: 11
    Photos of the same person were published on the tg channel “Turned by the war”. In one photo he is in the Crocus hall on the night of the tragedy among the spectators. In another photo he is escorting a detained terrorist in the Bryansk forest. I claim that this is supposedly the same person with a probability of about 100 percent. Based on this, some believe that the FSB could be involved in the tract.
  39. 0
    27 March 2024 12: 19
    But these photos are probably deepfake
  40. 0
    27 March 2024 12: 23
    Afraid ahead of schedule. Right. But what about it?
  41. 0
    27 March 2024 12: 46
    The former head of the CIA operations department in Russia, Steve Hall, with absolutely inappropriate indignation in this case, spoke about the allegedly “uncivilized treatment” of terrorists in the Russian Federation

    First of all, he will take care of the uncivilized treatment of suspects by the US and Ukrainian police who did not kill anyone.
  42. 0
    27 March 2024 13: 00
    Here are the radishes! These “humanitarians” called the operation of massive bombing of Yugoslavia “Merciful Angel”! Female dogs!..
  43. 0
    27 March 2024 15: 05
    Whose cow would moo!.. let them wash their bloody hands first, if possible, and explain to their charges in Ukraine how to treat prisoners.