The concept of the EAEU and problems in the migration sphere: is there a way out?

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The concept of the EAEU and problems in the migration sphere: is there a way out?


Public discussion


The tragedy that occurred in Crocus City near Moscow has sharpened the public debate regarding migration policy to the limit.



It is no secret that, on the one hand (“from below”), society demands a tightening of migration policy, on the other hand, the sectoral and departmental lobby (“from the side”) insists on its preservation and even greater liberalization, and on the third - political control (“from above”) usually extinguishes this discussion in the style of “don’t rock the situation.”

As a result, everything fundamentally remains as it is, which generally plays into the hands of the lobby, and not the sentiments “from below.”

To justify expanding the share of migrants in the economy, the lobby has been pushing theses for the second year that “the economy is overheated”, “there is not enough labor force”, “the lack of labor provokes inflated (!) wages”, the employer does not meet high demands, etc. etc. In general, if labor resources are not imported, there will be neither economic growth nor an industrial breakthrough.

In reality, it is quite difficult to counter the arguments of lobbyists, if only because the macroeconomic reporting on which these arguments are based is of an official nature. These indicators have openly raised doubts for a long time, but all other indicators are of a private nature, which in departmental discussions greatly reduces their practical value.

The result here is naturally that supporters of tightening migration policy, at best, seek the creation of another departmental “large program for cultural adaptation, taking into account comments and suggestions.” The discussion itself moves into the category of political philosophy - about the limits of Eurasianism, Russian identification, etc.

Sometimes even “from above” some grants are allocated for this, but only to cover it all up with a slogan like “the discussion was lively and constructive, but everyone came to the conclusion that “friendliness” is the main thing, and Russian is “Russian” in spirit."

Achilles' heel


The Achilles heel of opponents of increased migration is, oddly enough, precisely the area of ​​economic justification. Without an economic base, which still needs to be properly formalized and bureaucratically “packaged,” the top people perceive dissatisfaction with migration as a kind of noise, to which they will simply respond with a barrage of projects like the next “Pilaf Day,” “Multinational Maslenitsa,” etc. And this will be it has its own bureaucratic, administrative logic, since it has its own ways of describing reality.

At the same time, among the arguments and counterarguments, we do not see debates around one of the main factors of the migration problem - the Eurasian Economic Union (EAEU).

Meanwhile, it is the concept of the EAEU, as well as the very significant regulatory framework that has developed over the years of the existence of this association, that is one of the main elements of the so-called. "migration agenda". Of course, countries such as Uzbekistan and Tajikistan are not directly included in the EAEU, and the main migration flow comes from them. However, they are considered as potential participants of the EAEU, and accordingly, the bilateral regulatory framework for these countries is being “pulled up” to the basis of the association.

The roots of current migration problems lie largely in the concepts and ideas of the EAEU itself and those associated with the EAEU, which in themselves had a significant right to exist, subject to their systematic and consistent implementation in their original form.

It is from this conceptual basis that a discussion about the economic efficiency or ineffectiveness of migration can (and should) be built. The political system, coupled with the administrative-bureaucratic mechanism, works from large projects to small ones, and not vice versa.

For a long time, the EAEU has been more of a convenient ideological and economic way to justify current approaches to labor migration issues. Moreover, the further it goes, the more the generally sound idea of ​​​​reintegrating the post-Soviet space, unfortunately, resembles a simulacrum.

By calling the current EAEU a simulacrum, the author did not at all seek to offend those teams that have been carrying out this project for years, and did it without laurel wreaths, tangible personal returns and benefits. They delayed, struggling with the fact that a significant number of interested groups simply sought to use integration ideas for the sake of profit from import migration or for the purpose of banal re-export by circumventing duties and quotas.

Moreover, these groups are not so much ours, Russian, as a “hodgepodge” of interests from the CIS countries. But in the end, we have exactly a Platonic simulacrum - reality and the normative ideas that are embedded there have little connection with each other.

Integration


Eurasian integration has gone through two main stages of development. From mid-2000 to 2014, integration took place in a format known as the EurAsEC, and by and large, despite the various political instruments created in this format, was a version of an expanded Customs Union.

Elements of a political (Interparliamentary Assembly) and economic superstructure (Eurasian Bank) were created, but the main practical role was assigned to the Commissions of the Customs Union, which primarily regulated issues of transit and re-export. This was also a considerable set of issues related to quotas, duties, tariffs, taxation and permitting documentation, but it should be recognized that from the point of view of integration into the “common space” such activities were only a small part of what was necessary.

Since 2014, or more precisely, from 2016–2018, the EurAsEC has been transformed into the EAEU - from the “Community” to the “Union”. Over the course of several years, the team represented by S. Glazyev has come a long way, trying to transform the structure aimed at transit and re-export into the concept of a full-fledged common economic zone.

The main theses of such an association can be seen both in the regulatory framework and in the works and speeches of Academician S. Glazyev. The response to the next round of scientific and technological revolution should be a transition to a new industrial and economic structure. The transition to a new way of life is impossible without relying on your market. An independent market requires a certain number of consumers (from 300 million, there are other estimates).

One of the conditions for the functioning of a common market is the joint formation of value by participants, when the value is established primarily through each other. The next condition for a common market is the formation of a common profit center, etc.

While it is still possible to debate in some way with S. Glazyev’s author’s terminology, it is quite difficult to argue with the fundamental theses and general concept.

The single cost zone of the European Union, no matter what they say on TV, gives this association unique stability, which, by the way, allows the European bureaucracy to continue to pursue such a costly foreign policy. China is also successfully forming such a zone in Southeast Asia. The United States intends to join the EU cost zone to itself in any way, and to construct a cost competitor to China between India and the Middle East.

In such conditions, creating a value cluster with a functioning internal market in place of the amorphous CIS was undoubtedly an adequate task, especially since Iran could easily fit into this market.

During all this time, the formulation of the task in this way was not challenged at any level; moreover, it found support even on the ideological front. It was suitable for supporters of projects like “USSR 2.0” and “Empire 2.0”, and for fans of Eurasianism and concepts like “Greater Eurasia - Third Horde”. But the main thing is not even these ideological guidelines, but the real pressing requirement to comply with the conditions of global competition.

Actually, the issues and problems of labor migration mainly come from an extremely liberal regulatory framework, super-loyal if you look at world analogues. And from the point of view of the original concept, it was logical - the common market is a market including labor and capital. As already mentioned in the first paragraphs, Uzbekistan and Tajikistan, although they were not members of the EAEU, all bilateral legislation was brought under the concept of a “common labor market”, since they were also considered as potential participants in the common market.

The numbers are alarming


Now let's look at the results with which this sound and even strategically necessary concept is being implemented.

Below are graphs from Articles S. Glazyev dated 11.03.2024/XNUMX/XNUMX for the Tsargrad channel.


3,9% – share of the EAEU in world GDP (PPP); 2,5% – the share of the EAEU in world trade (for exports of goods); 1,3% – share of the EAEU in world trade (export of services).
Sources: World Bank, EEC calculations

We agree that it is quite difficult to compare these results with the indicators of the European Union, the value cluster China - Southeast Asia or the USA - Canada - Mexico. At the same time, the numbers themselves are alarming.

Firstly, because, judging by the reports of our financial and economic bloc, GDP at PPP in Russia seems to be a vigorous 5,51 trillion in dollar terms, which gives 5,3% of the global total in the Russian Federation alone. Here we see the entire EAEU as 3,5% for 2022.

Secondly, if we take the indicators from the graph as a basis, then Russian GDP in PPP terms amounted to $2022 trillion in 2,8, or 2,6% of the global total (GDP in PPP terms for the rest of the EAEU countries is $0,91 trillion). The difference is not just big, but very big.

It is possible that in 2023 we actually made a giant leap, and gained GDP in PPP twice as much as the previous year, although there are no analogues for such leaps in stories I can’t remember off the top of my head. But even if a miracle happened, then 6,11% for the union that was built in place of the USSR - CIS is at least an ambiguous result.

Moreover, it is ambiguous (to put it mildly), including for the countries of Central Asia, because if the unification does not provide clear advantages in international competition, then from the unification it is necessary to take only what is clearly beneficial in a specific period, and this approach will be in its own way logical. It’s even better when there is no need to formally join the association, and preferences can be obtained from bilateral agreements that are aimed at unification in a hypothetical future.

The paradox is that in terms of the volume of accumulated direct investment in Central Asia, Russia showed a fairly decent result - over $40 billion in investments. This is comparable to European and Chinese investments, however, in mutual trade, even with our own Eurasian Bank, we come with the third result of 20%, against the EU and China. Neither the EU nor China have made integration associations similar to the EAEU.

More detailed information about this data can be found in the following materials: “Is there potential for creating a Eurasian value zone or Greater Eurasia as an economic pole” и “USA – EU” vs “China – Russia”.

This is the result of the fact that the regulatory framework was tailored to one concept, but in reality everything went on as it had been going on since the 2000s - private targeted projects that took off somewhere and were closed somewhere, the legal framework for the general labor market worked and works purely for the migrant lobby and, by and large, is a plus, from the point of view of transfers for the countries of Central Asia, the common cost zone has remained a hypothetical project. Everything worked for transit and re-export, and continues to work, but transit and re-export are about additional income (by the way, not for everyone), and not about the general zone of value.

And again, the paradox is that this situation was not predetermined. After all, in Central Asia there are two basic issues: water and energy - these are not just problems, but a potential source of enormous income. And if we are to form a general cost cluster, then it is very strange that Russia has not developed and co-financed water and generation programs for so many years. At a minimum, this would make it possible to loop financial flows from us to our neighbors and back, taking into account the interests of both our elites and the elites of Central Asia. No one would even object to this, with the exception of groups that are simply directly associated with funds like Soros and Co. But even here their voice would not be strong.

Now in Russia there are voices saying that a visa regime should be introduced with the countries of Central Asia. And these voices are either populist or out of misunderstanding, since to introduce a visa regime it is necessary to reset the entire regulatory framework of the EAEU, and to revise the remnants of the regulatory framework for the CIS, which is still in effect. And to reset this base means to automatically create huge obstacles to parallel imports, which, not least of all, operate on these regulatory structures. What to do, these are the features of import substitution.

There are no simple solutions


All this shows that there are no simple solutions in this area.

To justify migration limits, it is necessary to formulate restrictions on the EAEU, which means that the entire economic model must be reworked and something offered in return. At the moment, it is not possible to abandon the ideas of integration and a connected bilateral base, and the migrant lobby also works on this argument. But it is also impossible not to admit that the current EAEU does not correspond to the underlying project ideas.

The EAEU can only be returned to its original design by a large-scale investment program in basic sectors – water and energy. After all, in fact, at least half of the current migration flow to Russia would have to work in this model at home, and not on our construction sites of the new century. If we admit that we do not have the resources to launch such programs, then the most logical and adequate step would be to return to the concept of the Customs Union, which reduces the limits of integration, but does not mean a rejection of integration as such.

Unfortunately, there is no real potential for recognition of this problem, and therefore full-fledged economic justification for a discussion on the same migration.
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  1. +4
    27 March 2024 05: 42
    Of course, countries such as Uzbekistan and Tajikistan are not directly included in the EAEU
    But they are part of the CIS, and Tajikistan is part of the CSTO. And the CIS, as unfinished, was started and abandoned, a more modern “building” began to be built, but apparently it will not be completed either.
    1. 0
      27 March 2024 07: 35
      Quote: parusnik
      They started to build the “building”, but apparently they won’t finish it either.

      It is necessary to rethink the concept of these buildings and demolish unnecessary ones, focusing on the construction of one beautiful one that meets modern needs.
      1. +13
        27 March 2024 07: 49
        The tragedy that occurred in Crocus City near Moscow has sharpened the public debate regarding migration policy to the limit.

        1. Where? Just in case, I watched Channel One. There is nothing like that. Everyone is happy with everything. Moreover, Ukrainian fundamentalists are to blame.
        2. All these EAEU leave the impression that Russia pays for everything, and the rest of the countries are simply beautiful.
        1. +6
          27 March 2024 14: 00
          Quote: Civil
          Where? There is nothing like that

          And it won’t be, that’s not why they imported millions and issued hundreds of thousands of passports for ten years.
  2. +6
    27 March 2024 05: 47
    at least half of the current migration flow to Russia would have to work in this model at home
    I wish I could work there!
  3. +15
    27 March 2024 07: 33
    The author writes everything correctly. But it does not raise or answer the main question - why import migrant workers with their families and recklessly hand out Russian passports.
    The labor market is one thing, moving to permanent residence with the whole village is another. In the field of labor migration, first of all, it is necessary to separate the flies from the cutlets.
  4. +3
    27 March 2024 07: 58
    Thanks to the Author for a serious article. Emotions are for the crowd, and economics are for understanding. The author showed that migration is part of the economic model that we built (but without much success), and it cannot be changed separately from the model. This is most likely true.

    But it’s worth talking about the model. As far as I understand, both the EAEU and the CIS exist in the form of amorphous entities that provide dubious economic benefits in general, but feed a certain part of the business. In addition, they create the illusion that Russia is the center of power in the region. Russia. Indeed, sometimes it plays a power role - for example, in Kazakhstan within the CSTO - but what we get in return is a big question. It looks like nothing.

    I think the model really needs to be changed, inactive structures should be made operational or abandoned. Of course, this is a task for the future, for another government, not this one.
    1. +5
      27 March 2024 08: 29
      Migration – interstate slave trade, business as usual
      1. 0
        27 March 2024 09: 40
        "Migration is the slave trade at the interstate level, business as usual"

        Then all hired workers are slaves.
        1. +1
          27 March 2024 12: 43
          Then all hired workers are slaves.
          Of course. Slaves are mute.
    2. +2
      27 March 2024 12: 46
      inactive structures should be made operational
      But the question is how? If the economies of the countries included in these unions are mainly focused on the supply of raw materials, there are no joint production projects within the framework of these unions
      1. 0
        27 March 2024 13: 40
        “But the question is how? If the economies of the countries included in these unions are mainly focused on the supply of raw materials, there are no joint production projects within the framework of these unions”

        If this does not work out, then you should abandon them and try to create new ones, or create conditions for reviving the current ones.

        IMHO, the very idea of ​​​​creating such unions was vicious, not based on economics, but on some ideals, perhaps phantom pains. Integration into global processes, increasing competitiveness in world markets - this is the goal, and not the creation of regional stunted structures in the strange hope that they will grow without fertilizers.
        1. +2
          27 March 2024 14: 03
          But what unites these unions, the production economy, has been destroyed to the ground...
          1. 0
            27 March 2024 15: 39
            "But what unites these unions, the production economy, has been destroyed to the ground.."

            It’s true, there is no basis, but there is something left in Belarus, and we need to start raising it. This would be a rise from our knees - a powerful economy - and not yapping at the USA with or without reason.

            Alas, the modern government believes that we have a powerful economy, and therefore we should not expect progress here, but power is not eternal, perhaps a new government will get down to business someday. I am afraid that delaying economic reforms will cost us dearly, but there is no other way out.
            1. +2
              27 March 2024 16: 28
              and we need to start raising it.
              When the CIS was created, there was almost a single army and navy, at least there was a joint headquarters, measures were taken to preserve a single economic space and currency... What stopped it? Again, the slippery floor, tight trousers, tight shoes?
              1. +1
                27 March 2024 16: 46
                “What prevented you? Again, the slippery floor, tight trousers, tight shoes?”

                I think the process of decay began and just slowed down. It seems to be continuing. The USSR was united by an idea; victory in the war made it possible to create an alliance. Then the idea disappeared, the union fell apart immediately, the USSR crumbled more slowly, but continues to crumble.

                What unites us in the CIS? Ideology? Fight for safety? Faith? Language? Culture? None of this, but a common history that could unite is rather a stumbling block. Inevitably the old alliance will leave. We don't need each other as allies, we are just neighbors. Even support for Belarus rests on a small number of individuals, if not on one individual. Its departure is inevitable.

                We have tried to correct our loneliness by military force, and this attempt is not yet over, but I am not optimistic about the results. That is, we will not gain allies, rather the opposite.

                We must become economically strong, then people will reach out to us, otherwise we can turn into the DPRK with all the ensuing consequences.
  5. +5
    27 March 2024 08: 23
    1. Migrants are always and everywhere limited in their rights to one degree or another.

    2. Exploitation of migrants is more economically profitable and less troublesome.

    3. Religion provides moral guidelines, and money determines consciousness.

    4. Economic and legal inequality gives rise to nationalism and crime.

    5. Class consciousness and proletarian solidarity of different peoples and religions undermines the foundations of any social system built on the exploitation of people by people, and therefore is anti-state in nature and is prosecuted by law.
    1. 0
      27 March 2024 09: 41
      You're right. Do you feel better? No to me.
  6. -3
    27 March 2024 09: 54
    For woke home-grown Nazis screaming “down with migrants”, “close the border”, it is useful to remember:
    1 all so beloved by them (what a coincidence that for the most part, Nazis are also leftists who love “social justice” = “freebies”) social welfare from the state is the state budget
    2, the budget is largely filled from business taxes (ok, withdrawing money from state corporations is essentially the same thing)
    3 taxes - part of the profit
    4 profit can be ensured by raising prices (the external market does not agree, the internal squeal “prohibit the increase” is guaranteed), or by reducing costs (including, and often primarily, labor costs)
    5 with minimal unemployment (which in itself is not bad), competition for workers forces wages to be increased (again, not bad in itself) to the payback limit... and then close down or look for cheaper workers
    5.1. for nerds: automation and other innovations partially help, but not quickly, industry-specific solutions are not available everywhere, etc.
    6 when borders are closed, migrants become more difficult/banned: the price rises or production closes. is this exactly what we want?
    miracles DO NOT HAPPEN!
    1. 0
      27 March 2024 10: 47
      Well, you have forgotten that we have almost stopped giving birth here and sooner or later we will simply disappear.
      1. +4
        27 March 2024 12: 32
        and sooner or later we will simply disappear.
        And this is natural if we have not been able to reach a more advanced level of civilization... And we are unlikely to get there...
        1. +1
          27 March 2024 13: 42
          “And this is natural if we have not been able to reach a more advanced level of civilization... And it is unlikely that we will get there..”

          I don’t agree, because I can’t overcome my natural optimism.

          This path that we stepped on led to a dead end, we need to change the road. I'm afraid it will cost a lot, but we will definitely return to the wide beaten path of civilization.
          1. +3
            27 March 2024 14: 07
            onto the wide beaten path of civilization.
            Oh how! And who made it? Hasn’t this beaten track been littered with all sorts of construction debris and continues to be littered with all sorts of rubbish? Was this the road the president was talking about, that it was bad? With potholes and potholes and asphalt constantly running out? Did you have to walk on it in galoshes?
            1. +1
              27 March 2024 15: 42
              “Oh, how! And who paved it? Wasn’t this well-trodden road littered with all sorts of construction debris and continues to be littered with all sorts of rubbish? Was this the road the president said about how bad it was? With potholes and potholes, there was always not enough asphalt? We had to walk along it in galoshes walk?"

              There is a road, but we turned off it. I think we'll be back sooner or later - sooner rather than later. There is still no other way.

              “They told me that this road would lead me to the ocean of death, and I turned back halfway. Since then, crooked, deaf, roundabout paths have been stretching before me...”
              1. +5
                27 March 2024 16: 33
                Does capitalism have several roads? Have we chosen the wrong road of capitalism? The road of imperialism will lead us to the Ocean of Death. From the beginning, weak capitalists are devoured by a flock of other capitalists. Which is actually happening now.
                1. 0
                  27 March 2024 17: 34
                  “Capitalism, it turns out, has several roads? Have we chosen the wrong road of capitalism? The road of imperialism will lead us to the Ocean of Death. From the beginning, weak capitalists are devoured by a flock of other capitalists. What is actually happening now.”

                  Several, but not all of them lead to the city on the hill. Capitalists eat up the weak - just as economically strong countries suck the juice out of the weak. Therefore, you need to become strong economically, and then at dinner you will be at the table, and not on the table :) The world is competitive, there are no enemies and friends - there are partners and competitors (often these are the same thing).

                  Instead of making efforts in the economy, we got involved in other games. But we have advantages, especially over some of our neighbors. Our historical experience alone is worth it. True, sometimes it seems to me that it did not benefit everyone.
    2. +1
      28 March 2024 09: 54
      6 when borders are closed, migrants become more difficult/banned: the price rises or production closes. is this exactly what we want?
      miracles DO NOT happen! "" and many industries employ migrants? Well, in general, the price of production of goods includes the wages of workers, that’s it. Two, reorient colleges back to vocational schools, and you will have workers in the required specialties, and not managers and servants. What's the question? Do you want to hire migrants cheaply? - easily! Only under an employment contract, for a certain period. Make a bail to the state in the amount of (1-5 million, in case of their irresponsible behavior and be ready to pay for them damage (any, moral, material) to any citizen of the Russian Federation. Fair? I think so!
    3. 0
      28 March 2024 09: 55
      I wrote the answer to you below.
  7. +6
    27 March 2024 10: 05
    . ...creating a value cluster with a functioning internal market in place of the amorphous CIS was undoubtedly an adequate task, especially since Iran could easily fit into this market.
    During all this time, the formulation of the task in this way was not challenged at any level; moreover, it found support even on the ideological front. It was suitable for supporters of projects like “USSR 2.0” and “Empire 2.0”, and for fans of Eurasianism and concepts like “Greater Eurasia - Third Horde”.

    Oh, how!
    USSR 2.0... Empire 2.0... Generally speaking, an empire presupposes, in addition to colonies, the presence of a metropolis. And where is our metropolis in Russia? How does the colonizing nation live? As a place with certain territorial boundaries, its own government, legislative bodies, educational, judicial and law enforcement systems, army and other attributes characteristic of the metropolis. In other words, where is the Republic of Rus' within Russia? One that has all the features that allow it to be considered the metropolis of an empire or at least a national state? Well, let’s say, like Chechnya or Tatarstan, as well as all the others in the amount of even 50 thousand people (like Chukotka).
    Ah, there are Russian regions...
    Nu-nu.. Uh-huh... It becomes clear why they colonize us Russians, and not us someone else. And any illiterate Tajik from a remote village understands this situation. Therefore, when he comes to Moscow, he confidently declares that now this is his land, he will multiply on it as if it were no man’s land, it will become his, and in a hundred years everyone will forget that it was once the land of the Russians.
    Such is the metropolis and therefore such a failed empire.
    1. +3
      27 March 2024 10: 46
      “And where is our metropolis in Russia?”

      In Moscow. This city is so different from the rest of Russia that the fine there is even higher. Almost all the money from all over the country flows there and is distributed there. Qualified people from all over the country flock there. From there, teams go “to the ground” and laws are passed there.

      "Oh, there are Russian regions..."
      This is not known for certain, since a person’s nationality is not indicated in the documents and belongs to the category of “special personal data.” Called himself Russian - that means Russian. But usually no one asks, since nationality does not matter.
      1. +7
        27 March 2024 10: 52
        . Nationality doesn't matter.

        I took your opinion into account, dear colleague. But for some reason it seems to me that if you tell a Tajik that his nationality does not matter, you will run into an inadequate reaction. Or, God forbid, you tell this to a Chechen.
        1. 0
          27 March 2024 12: 44
          “I took your opinion into account, dear colleague. But for some reason it seems to me that if you tell a Tajik that his nationality does not matter, you will run into an inadequate reaction. Or, God forbid, you tell this to a Chechen.”

          It depends on which Tajik or Chechen. By the way, some who call themselves Russians cannot say everything either. The same as talking about God to an atheist or about the absence of God to a believer.

          I myself was born, raised and raised in the USSR, and in my society nationality did not matter. I'm not sure that anything has actually changed.
    2. +5
      27 March 2024 14: 00
      Well, the main problem here is that “façade” is everything to us. In any program or project, the main thing is to create a facade and paint it. The draped mausoleum is truly a symbol of the era. The trouble is that even the facade has some kind of load-bearing supports, and after the facade is painted, our “elite parasites” begin to gnaw like termites on the supports of even the existing facade. Therefore, they eat up the migration flow. Which in its original form was only a supporting part of a completely different structure. And so it will be until the facade crumbles.
      1. +3
        27 March 2024 15: 51
        “Well, the main problem here is that façade is everything to us.”

        There is an explanation for this. In a vertically controlled structure, signals are transmitted vertically and strictly through all floors. The more floors, the more the signal is distorted. And decisions are made at the very top, which, as a result of such construction, often has distorted information. Plus, the very top has neither the time nor the competence to look into the essence of the process - but they will see the façade in any case. This is the result - window dressing. The second result is that they need to eat something, so they eat what they have, often not realizing that there really is nothing else and that they are eating the very basis of the structure.

        Appeals to the people with answers to questions, when 1 million 700 thousand questions are asked (!), illustrates the picture no worse than a mausoleum.

        We were not good at thinking and deciding on our own before, but now we have completely forgotten how to be responsible for ourselves. “The master will come, the master will judge us.”

        At the same time, there are historical examples of getting rid of this, but alas, we are going our own way.
    3. 0
      28 March 2024 07: 26
      USSR 2.0... Empire 2.0...
      - we have a lot of geopoliticians who confuse USB 2.0, PCI Express with states
  8. +1
    27 March 2024 16: 02
    It's all about the approach to the problem.
    Japan.
    There were no less migrants there. A law was passed that since specialists had to be invited from abroad, they should receive wages higher than the Japanese.
    Finland
    There is employer insurance for migrants, something like 200 rubles (right now I won’t say exactly how much)
    and that's all. After some thought, the business began to hire locals
    1. +1
      27 March 2024 16: 58
      The fact is that Japan is not a member of such associations as the EAEU or the EU. Accordingly, there is no need for tariff and tax unification, and there are no bilateral agreements with other countries in precisely this direction. Here we have a simple problem - the total payroll tax rate for ours and for a migrant is significantly different. But because “we avoid double taxation.” In the format of the original EAEU concept - everything is logical, if you look at the realities - it is complete nonsense and a bottomless hole. And everything in this area is like that.
  9. +1
    27 March 2024 16: 08
    Finally a sober look at this topic.
    Thank you!
  10. 0
    27 March 2024 19: 06
    In general, the order in the migration matter depends, of course, on our officials. And it is not difficult to restore order here in the conditions of computerization. Stopped by - date. The police stopped me and checked my documents: it had been three months already, and the department had not received any information about my work for clarification. They just sent it out. Didn't leave: court and community service for three months.
    1. 0
      28 March 2024 10: 00
      The punishment should be harsher... I worked for a year for free and went home.
  11. +2
    29 March 2024 01: 31
    It seems to me that at one time approximately the same reasoning was current in the Roman Empire during the times of its active barbarization. Well, they say, “we don’t have enough motivated soldiers,” “our economy is drying up without labor,” and so on and so forth.
    Of course, the logic is clear, as is the fact that the wave of cheap and low-skilled labor works against innovation in the economy and, in general, against development. The so-called “coolies” are good when you need to build something really quickly at the cost of attracting a shaft of people-with-shovels-and-trowels. In other cases, this is a harmful practice that creates tension, among other things.
    In the bad old 90s, somehow, magically, all the stores worked for the provinces, Moldova and Ukraine and also, sometimes, horror of horrors, for local residents. In Moscow time Amazing. Even the janitors happened, there were locals. Somehow we managed to cope without visiting Ashgabat. And now, well, it’s just like, in an overpopulated metropolis there’s just nowhere, and every year there are more and more of them, sometimes I have the feeling that I’m getting through a portal to Central Asia when I’m walking somewhere along familiar streets.
    Yes, I console myself with the thought that this phenomenon is temporary - there was already a precedent at the beginning of the 20th century - the widespread dominance of the Chinese. Of course, a different scale. But as soon as they arrived, they left. It’s hard to say what it will be like this time.
    I can't look at this policy as something reasonable, Mikhail. You know my point of view - I interpret such phenomena as manifestations of collective intellectual degradation both at the level of society and at the level of elites. We have previously experienced extremely persistent tendencies to cut down the branches on which we find ourselves - but over the past decades, some kind of terminal stage has begun, even by our standards.
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      29 March 2024 02: 31
      And there is nothing reasonable here. We did, we did, an integration project. While they were waving flags and blowing trumpets that they say, “The indestructible Union is reassembling,” our analyzers on the U-tube produced triumphant videos - they say we are magnetizing a new pole. And under this, as usual, they sawed, planed, and made up small things for specific tasks like a big plan. The number of small cases, but in specific and private interests, eventually naturally grew into quality. This is not USSR-2.0, but Big Kishlak.
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      29 March 2024 07: 12
      but over the past decades, some kind of terminal stage has begun, even by our standards

      One of the reasons for this phenomenon is the excessive concentration of money in our capital. Production is very often on the periphery, and the office is in Moscow. And taxes are excessively deposited in Moscow. And then the collapse begins: high salaries - attracting the best specialists, increased need for housing, increased need for roads, increased development of the service sector. And for this we still need to attract many simple hard-working sellers. At the same time, in the periphery there is often nowhere to work and low wages. This policy leads to the degradation of the country.
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    30 March 2024 22: 20
    The contradiction is far-fetched, since the problems described in the article lie in perpendicular planes.
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    There are no economic problems with attracting migrants. These are the issues that the EAEU is addressing. Tolerance here is 100% - employees of the same enterprise should not conflict on ethnic grounds.
    The problem of the local population, which migrants deprive of work and prospects, is a completely different plane and solutions in it must be subject to a different, non-economic logic. The logic of the government, which decides who it needs most, and the logic of the protest of the population of the country that elects this government. Tolerance may vary, but is by no means absolute. The border is established in the process of the struggle of the oligarchic state with its people. True democracy will never accept outsiders. Perhaps in the third generation...
    And finally, the problem of terrorism, which lies in the third plane. There should be a purely military logic: the destruction or deportation of hostile elements BEFORE they have done something. The war against the enemy never ends and the migrant should be deported at any hint of hostility, without waiting for illegal actions..
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    Attempts by external forces and their agents in our country to link issues from different planes must be resolutely suppressed, as a variant of aggression against our country.