"Crocus City Hall": afterword

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"Crocus City Hall": afterword


Let's get through it together


«History divided into before and after” or “Russians woke up in another country” – such journalistic clichés come to mind first after the mass murder of their compatriots. The terrorist attack at Crocus City Hall is exactly like that. For decades we will remember the day of mourning on March 22.03.2024, XNUMX, just as we remember Beslan and Dubrovka.



But the victims in Krasnogorsk amazingly revealed the bright sides of our people. It would seem that Russia has been fighting Nazism in Ukraine for three years now, and the hearts of a considerable part of the population should harden. Scientifically speaking, the threshold of emotional sensitivity should increase. And what would happen to him was detachment from the events at Crocus. But every Russian missed the tragedy through his soul.


The public reaction is truly unprecedented. In a few days after the tragedy in Moscow, more than two tons of donor blood were collected from volunteers. This provided that there was an abundance of supplies at the blood transfusion stations, but Muscovites kept coming and going.

Readers can certainly point out not the most humane ways of working with terrorists. Everyone knows the brutal footage of the initial interrogations of detained non-humans. Say, where is the humanity here?

But if you think about it, there is an abundance of humanity in the actions of the security forces. For everyone, without exception, the shooting of dozens of innocent people came as a surprise. Perhaps only in the United States and Europe did they perceive the terrorist act as a pattern. I remember they warned about something similar back in early March.

Time and investigation will tell what NATO countries have to do with this terrorist attack and the degree of their involvement, but for now the fact remains that for the Russian security forces the attack on Crocus City came as a surprise.

At the time of the detention of the Tajiks in the Bryansk forests, there was no understanding of where and when something like this would happen again. And will it happen at all? Therefore, all potential killers of civilians needed a quick and simple explanation of what would happen to those who wanted to repeat the tragedy in Crocus.

First, they will not escape retribution.

Secondly, retribution will be very painful and humiliating.

Humanely?

It is very humane towards Russians - it is unknown how many ghouls stopped one step away from irreparable damage after watching the harsh video sequence. And, frankly speaking, for terrorists, after what was done at Crocus, the measures of physical coercion look too lenient.

Unlike some countries with “enlightened democracies”, the lives of the four serial killers will ultimately be spared. In Russia, the death penalty exists on paper, but in reality it has long been prohibited under the wording “moratorium”.

In the first days after Crocus, there were calls for the return of the death penalty, at least as an exception for the four Inhumans. Most likely this will not happen.


On the one hand, Dalerjon Mirzoev, Saidakrami Rachabalizoda, Shamsidin Fariduni and Muhammadsobir Fayzov have a long life ahead of them somewhere in the Russian Arctic. Where the four will slowly but surely go crazy and climb the walls out of despair.

On the other hand, no one can take away the hope, albeit illusory, of a happy ending to history from terrorists. Considering the level of intelligence of the killers tending to zero, they will not stop believing in wonderful liberation. And that's bad.

And a death sentence will kill this hope. By the way, the delay in the execution of a court’s execution decision can be endless. And this is good.

New Society of Russia


The involvement in the history of Crocus and the empathy of Russians is worthy of respect.

To put it in official cliché, the initiative came from below. At first, banks, one after another, began to compensate loans and mortgages to the families who suffered and died. Money cannot redeem grief, but what else can a banker do in such a situation?

Interestingly, the Central Bank came to its senses later and only on Sunday, March 24, “recommended that banks and microfinance organizations write off the debts of those killed in Crocus City Hall.” There is a feeling that this is the first time that government financial institutions have taken such a step. Acts of terror in Russia have happened before, but this is the first time that the state has focused on the problem in such a way.

And not only the Kremlin, but also the regional elites. Throughout the country, entertainment and sporting events are being canceled at their own discretion. The President declared a day of national mourning on March 24, but the cancellation of entertainment events in Russia will last at least a week. Suffice it to recall the City Day holiday in Moscow on September 6, 2004, just three days after the Beslan tragedy. In twenty years, Russia has changed beyond recognition.

There are other examples.

Several young girls (to say the least) on social networks openly mocked the victims of Crocus City Hall. Just three or four years ago they would have gotten away with it, and for a certain part of the youth they would have turned into idols. Now the parents took the idiots by the scruff of the neck, poked their noses at the smartphone camera and forced them to apologize. Any progress? There is, but so far it is slow and insufficient.

It is impossible not to touch upon the topic of the nationality of terrorists.

Look how loyal the attitude of Russians towards the natives of Tajikistan remained after Crocus. One of the goals of terrorism is to incite ethnic hatred or simply the massacre of unwanted people. To do this means to stand on the same level as the murderers and allow the terrorists to get their way.

It is enough to imagine the consequences if this happened, for example, in the United States. How many would yesterday's slave owners have already lynched?

The events at Crocus City Hall became, albeit sad, a marker of the revival of Russian society. As well as a symbol of further alienation from the phenomenon that we call “Ukrainian neo-Nazism.”

The mockery of the victims of the terrorist attack from Ukraine was predictable, but now it has moved to a new level. In Kiev, for example, in a restaurant you can order the Crocus City set; it is positioned as “a dish that costs 250 hryvnia and includes French fries, chicken wings, onion rings and fried mozzarella.” In addition, you can order the Daria Dugina steak. The capital's restaurant is named "Ofenziva" and, according to locals, is quite popular.

Probably, it would not be entirely correct to call for erasing it from the face of Ukraine, but I really want such an establishment to no longer receive visitors...

Crocus City Hall must remain in our hearts forever. Not only because hundreds of innocent people died and suffered, but also because it became one of the watersheds. Russia is no longer recognizable - three years ago we lived in a completely different country.

Together we will truly cope with all the challenges and let the Crocus City Hall tragedy be the last, and only victories remain ahead.
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  1. +6
    28 March 2024 04: 26
    Let the Crocus City Hall tragedy be the last, and let only victories remain ahead.
    A good covenant... But is it feasible? But let's hope...
    1. -12
      28 March 2024 06: 52
      The author does not understand the simplest things: tomorrow his son or daughter will be accidentally suspected of a terrorist attack, they will connect the wires where necessary and the father will become the head of a gang of terrorists, and if his ear is cut off, he will easily admit to working for the Ukrainian, Japanese and other intelligence services combined .
      1. +36
        28 March 2024 07: 27
        The problem of our state is the lack of a systematic, strategic approach to solving and preventing problems.

        Russia is a state that is largely manually controlled and reacts situationally.
        An event happens - the person begins to fall into a stupor. And a huge number of problems are revealed that could be solved.

        For example, gross violations of fire safety were revealed in Crocus. In one of the largest exhibition centers in the country! Will there be an inspection of all shopping and exhibition centers? Will similar problems be identified? And how will they be decided?
        1. +34
          28 March 2024 08: 12
          Quote: Ilya-spb
          Gross violations of fire safety were revealed in Crocus

          Lame Horse, Winter Cherry, Passage, Admiral - are these fires not enough?
          1. +5
            28 March 2024 12: 21
            We're ahead of the curve, I fully support it. good
        2. +21
          28 March 2024 12: 36
          Quote: Ilya-spb
          Will there be an inspection of all shopping and exhibition centers?

          Will
          Quote: Ilya-spb
          Will similar problems be identified?

          There will be
          Quote: Ilya-spb
          And how will they be decided?

          In no way

          Just like after the school shootings, fires in Winter Cherry, etc.
          clear sine wave - hysterical-fading-hysterical-fading-hysterical..
          And nothing changes.

          I also have an interesting question - what will happen to the Agalarov billionaires?
          Because, according to numerous reviews, the fire extinguishing, smoke removal and warning systems did not work, many emergency doors did not unlock, etc.
          In the same Winter Cherry, for this the owner + management + EMERCOM-nickname locals sat down for decent periods of time..

          And I also took a quick look at JSC Crocus itself in contour focus - so the company is very unprofitable according to its reports for the last 3 years. The owners are simply losing billions. And they don’t pay taxes because... no wonder, total losses.
          But for some reason they really want to restore Crocus, and they are counting on government support for this event..
          1. +6
            28 March 2024 16: 11
            What could happen to the relatives of President Aliyev?......
          2. +15
            28 March 2024 16: 33
            There is no limit to arrogance. According to the documents, Crocus has not been put into operation and is listed as unfinished. Just think about it - it has been operating illegally for more than 15 years, with all the consequences - taxes are not paid, etc. and so on. People died, including and through the fault of the owners of this nativity scene. And you have the audacity to ask for money to restore something that legally simply does not exist.
            1. +1
              29 March 2024 12: 50
              Lenta.ru, 25.03.2024/12/2009: The Prosecutor General's Office of Russia denied this message in its Telegram channel. “Based on the results of the inspection, it was established that this capital construction project was put into operation in accordance with the requirements of urban planning legislation on October XNUMX, XNUMX. Reports that the building was not put into operation and was not on the cadastral map of Rosreestr do not correspond to reality,” the department said. They also advised citizens not to disseminate false information.
          3. man
            0
            28 March 2024 17: 23
            https://openarmenia.am/forums/topic/41085-%D1%82%D0%B5%D1%80%D0%B0%D0%BA%D1%82-%D0%B2-%C2%AB%D0%BA%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%BA%D1%83%D1%81-%D1%81%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B8-%D1%85%D0%BE%D0%BB%D0%BB%D0%B5%C2%BB/?do=findComment&comment=2288264
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      3. +1
        28 March 2024 19: 03
        If someone’s son with a machine gun in his hands, even without a mask, appears on a video surveillance camera at the moment of killing unarmed civilians, then let him be connected and cut off everything that stands out - he deserves it.
        It’s a pity that in Russia, especially for people like you, there is no criminal liability, a criminal article “For justifying terrorism.” Yes, and compulsory treatment in a mental hospital seems to have been abolished...
        1. +8
          28 March 2024 19: 37
          Quote: Alt22
          It’s a pity that in Russia, especially for people like you, there is no criminal liability, a criminal article “For justifying terrorism.”


          Criminal Code of the Russian Federation Article 205.2. Public calls for terrorist activities, public justification for terrorism or propaganda of terrorism.
          ...
          imprisonment for a term of five to seven years
        2. +1
          April 1 2024 03: 32
          Well, speaking of cameras. Has anyone seen the faces of the killers on the video from Crocus cameras?
    2. +11
      28 March 2024 12: 21
      Yeah, and before that it was like “let the tragedy of Nord-Ost remain the last, let the tragedy of Beslan remain the last.”... And-and-and-and again an unstoppable race through the rake...
  2. Msi
    +41
    28 March 2024 04: 33
    At first, banks, one after another, began to compensate loans and mortgages to the families who suffered and died.

    All right
    But something else was a little upsetting. I go to VTB online, and there... Raising funds for the victims. Why didn’t they collect money for my fellow countrymen, the victims and the families of the dead Belgorod residents, the same VTB, I wonder...?
    1. +37
      28 March 2024 05: 17
      “The question is, of course, interesting!” © In such cases, our George Orwell with his work “Animal Farm” comes to mind: “All animals are equal, but some are more equal than others.” In general, there are more questions about the terrorist attack than answers, but will there be answers from our authorities and will they be Have measures been taken to prevent this from happening in the future... I strongly doubt that they are not going to introduce the death penalty for terrorism, “valuable foreign specialists” were imported by the trainload, and continue to be...
      1. +20
        28 March 2024 05: 56
        A strange statement about “every citizen of the country has passed this through his soul.” Come on! Society is divided. Many are generally happy, like a schoolgirl from Nizhny, many are generally violet.
        1. +18
          28 March 2024 09: 48
          Look how much loyal What remains is the attitude of Russians towards the natives of Tajikistan after Crocus.
          Author, are you out of your mind?
          1. +16
            28 March 2024 11: 07
            In his own. The author pushes the position of the authorities - “we need gasters”, they make a lot of money. And the natives have only expenses.
    2. 0
      28 March 2024 05: 43
      Why didn’t they collect money for my fellow countrymen, the victims and the families of the dead Belgorod residents?
      Why wasn’t there a march of agreement in Moscow, like the march of agreement in Paris after the terrorist attack on Charlie Hebdo magazine, where almost all world leaders came? Why was there no such march in Turkey after the terrorist attack? I’ll answer myself: everything is selective for them.
      1. +5
        28 March 2024 06: 08
        Why wasn’t there a march of concord in Moscow, like the march of concord in Paris after the terrorist attack on Charlie Hebdo magazine?
        If only because “if something didn’t work out.” Do you remember the man in the case?
      2. +1
        29 March 2024 13: 01
        Again, the Russians are not like that. Again, we Russians are being told about some phony world leaders whose price is the current three pennies on market day.
    3. +5
      28 March 2024 05: 59
      Well, most likely, your characters like Svetlakov did not suffer... Yes, we are equal, but there are more equal ones..
    4. +3
      28 March 2024 07: 51
      “Why didn’t they collect money for my fellow countrymen, the victims and the families of the dead Belgorod residents, the same VTB, I wonder...?” - two banks announced that they will write off loans to all victims in Belgorod
    5. +4
      28 March 2024 11: 22
      I sincerely feel sorry for the governors of your and other border regions, who have to take the rap and look people in the eyes when the Kremlin bureaucrats are playing dumb hi . It is necessary to send this entire crowd in the form of the government, the Federation Council and the State Duma to meetings in the border areas of the Belgorod region, Kursk region and Bryansk region.
      1. +3
        28 March 2024 15: 11
        Allow me, colleague, with your permission, to add: Sevastopol, Crimea, Lugansk, Donetsk, it is possible on odd numbers smile
        1. +2
          28 March 2024 17: 18
          I understood you. But the Rublev leadership has long since erased the “red pencils.” But
          “voted.” Two years ago they stood near Kiev. And again - blablabla. negative
    6. +5
      28 March 2024 13: 00
      My opinion is that now everyone who lives outside the Moscow Ring Road or outside the region has become, in some way, second-class people, or even “third-class people.”
      1. +3
        28 March 2024 14: 25
        The way it is. You don't have to go far. The same pensioners who in the “outback” do not receive additional payments from Sobyanin’s lordly shoulder and the like. They are simply still of the old “Soviet school” type. Not the generation of managers and couriers. soldier
  3. Msi
    +8
    28 March 2024 04: 35
    calls for the return of the death penalty, at least as an exception for the four Inhumans. Most likely this won't happen

    It won’t happen... I already wrote. The President is against the death penalty. There is no point in discussing this anymore. The moratorium will not be lifted...
    1. -7
      28 March 2024 05: 01
      Quote from Msi
      calls for the return of the death penalty, at least as an exception for the four Inhumans. Most likely this won't happen

      It won’t happen... I already wrote. The President is against the death penalty. There is no point in discussing this anymore. The moratorium will not be lifted...
      meaning ? in a cage forever, this is worse than death, she is ready to accept this, but the cage does not give. and it lasts. constantly. In my opinion, a worthy execution for such people.
      1. +5
        28 March 2024 09: 59
        Not forever. The maximum term of imprisonment under Article 205 is 20 years. Those. many of these animals will be released at 40-50 years of age.
        1. +3
          28 March 2024 19: 46
          In their case, paragraph b) of Part 3 of Art. 205 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation.
          This is lifelong.
      2. +4
        28 March 2024 10: 41
        . and it lasts. constantly. In my opinion, a worthy execution for such people.

        Agree!
        Here was a Chechen militant, received a life sentence, a strict regime, and died in prison. I don’t even remember his last name - but does anyone in Chechnya remember him? Unless relatives and not in public. And immediate execution by court order would have exalted him in immature minds to a territorial folk hero.
        In the case of these four fanatics - the same thing. Execution upon conviction will make them fighters for the rights and freedoms of the Tajik people. Only one thing is unclear. Why do Tajiks prefer to fight for these very rights on the territory of our country, with our government, and not in Tajikistan and with their Rahmon.
        1. 0
          28 March 2024 12: 26
          In this case, what you wrote is not clever, to put it mildly. For some reason, in the godless USA, executions do not make anyone a hero, just like in China. And you will feed and water these scoundrels with your taxes, and they are fed and watered in the same way that in some regions of our country children in kindergartens and schools are not fed for the rest of their lives.
        2. +6
          28 March 2024 15: 15
          I don't remember his last name
          -I remember his last name, Raduev. But I also remember the news story. When he was taken out of the hall, one correspondent asked the question: What will you do in prison? And I received the answer that he would write a book about the Chechen war, where he would write the whole truth about it. Two thoughts flashed through my head. I’m also a writer, followed by the second, after such a statement, you won’t live long. And sure enough, he died a year later and one and a half. But it remains unknown whether he wrote anything or not.
        3. +6
          28 March 2024 15: 21
          Execution by verdict
          They will not be shot. In order to be shot, the law on “unfreezing” the death penalty had to be adopted before the commission of this crime. And the law adopted after it does not have retroactive force. In the history of the USSR, there was only such a case, under Khrushchev, not I remember in relation to whom.
          1. +3
            28 March 2024 19: 52
            Oh, what are you saying?
            There would be a desire. So, who in 2000 could have thought that in 2024 V.V. Putin would be President, because according to the CONSTITUTION it is not allowed.
            1. +1
              28 March 2024 20: 47
              who in 2000 would have thought
              In 2000, probably no one, but after Medvedev’s presidency, many.
          2. +2
            28 March 2024 20: 48
            In the history of the USSR, there was only one such case, under Khrushchev, I don’t remember in relation to whom.
            In relation to currency traders, this was in the year 60-61
            1. +2
              28 March 2024 20: 51
              hi Sergey, that’s right, currency traders, I forgot.
            2. +1
              28 March 2024 23: 49
              Aviator- ----"In relation to currency traders."
              Yes, Khrushchev, when he was visiting the USA, was asked if there were millionaires in the USSR. He denied. He was reminded of these currency traders. When he returned to the USSR, this fact was confirmed to him ---- they, it turns out, were millionaires. He was very angry about this and wished for death.. They reminded that there is no such law (possibly in other words) Khrushchev became angry and said something like the following ---- that the CPSU is above all laws
      3. +7
        28 March 2024 12: 40
        You are a little wrong. They can get a life sentence (there were precedents). According to the "tower" - only pardon. And the execution period of the sentence is not specified. Maybe tomorrow, or maybe in 10 years. It’s really scary to think every day that it’s your last. hi
        1. 0
          28 March 2024 20: 42
          “They can get a life sentence (there were precedents).” - can not. Only if the case is reopened for review and a new trial. Now he can cancel the old sentence. But if the sentence remains - life, then no one will ever get out. Excluded.
          1. 0
            28 March 2024 20: 53
            Quote: Ivan F
            “They can get a life sentence (there were precedents).” - can not. Only if the case is reopened for review and a new trial.

            Your paragraphs are contradictory. They can't go out, except when they can.
            1. 0
              28 March 2024 23: 43
              Exactly. Therefore, lawyers are highly paid comrades, because everything there is built on contradictions, the main thing is to build them correctly. But the average person has nothing to catch there, hence the lack of understanding. Yes
              1. -1
                29 March 2024 01: 47
                Quote: Ivan F
                But the average person has nothing to catch there, hence the lack of understanding.

                Therefore, it is best to spank, if attempting to escape, soon after the sentence. So that later there is no misunderstanding among ordinary people
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    2. +3
      28 March 2024 14: 35
      Yes. It would be better if the Russians died... And this is for another 6 years. And to protect the average law-abiding citizen and his family, kitchen knives and an ax are available. Well, axes have not yet been introduced into edged weapons.
    3. 0
      29 March 2024 13: 46
      It all comes down to the Constitutional Court. Although he calmly remained silent when the son of the “chief Pykhtotin” beat the defendant in Grozny. And dad approved. And silence from the guarantor. And if a Russian touches a dag or a block of wood, the matter will be blown out of proportion.
  4. +2
    28 March 2024 04: 39
    The consolidation of the people during war is a natural process; it’s bad that it happens on both sides of the front.
    1. +9
      28 March 2024 09: 40
      In addition to the people, there are also officials, oligarchs...
  5. +32
    28 March 2024 04: 44
    One thing is not clear to me about what happened in Crocus: WHY was Agalarov not arrested and in jail? His greed led to the mall being built with terrible imperfections. The desire to save money led to the fact that many more people died in the fire than from terrorist bullets. He must be held accountable as severely as possible.
    1. Msi
      +3
      28 March 2024 04: 52
      One thing is not clear to me about what happened in Crocus: WHY

      But something else is unclear to me... WHY haven’t they turned off the lights in 404 yet. Why does the 404th involve, through the Internet, its population in whipping up panic in Russia. It is possible to reduce the influence or make it more difficult for the so-called Tsipso and its freelance agents to work.
      1. +9
        28 March 2024 05: 48
        WHY haven't they turned off the lights in 404 yet?
        Do they also continue to supply gas and petroleum products?
      2. +10
        28 March 2024 08: 17
        Quote from Msi
        Why does 404 traffic work over the Internet?

        Our children received 27 thousand proposals from the Maidan to carry out terrorist attacks and with threats if they did not comply! How is that ? The whole of Ukraine MUST sit without electricity, without the Internet and cellular communications!
        1. 0
          28 March 2024 12: 39
          95% of bots write from abroad
    2. +20
      28 March 2024 05: 16
      It surprises me too. They waited for a few chairs and the result was a huge fire. Where is the fire extinguishing system? And where is the armed security (with the involvement of the Ministry of Internal Affairs) - after all, the hall is designed for 9000 - this is not a kiosk to guard!
      1. +14
        28 March 2024 05: 45
        Where is the fire extinguishing system?
        The fire inspector came, received an envelope and left wink
        1. +4
          28 March 2024 06: 40
          An interesting fact is that everything was in collateral. I talked with one person, the owner of a printing house. He has a huge unit - a printing machine. This rubbish has not worked for a long time - scrap metal. But it helps out as collateral in the bank when you need to take out a loan... .
        2. +1
          28 March 2024 06: 43
          Not this time. Now the security has been removed, the fire extinguishing system has been turned off, all additional exits have been locked...
    3. +11
      28 March 2024 07: 54
      It is Agalarov who is more likely to arrest someone.
      1. +11
        28 March 2024 08: 19
        Quote: Million
        It is Agalarov who is more likely to arrest someone.

        They say he has access to very high offices. Second Cherkizon...
    4. +15
      28 March 2024 09: 34
      You are a strange person. You were told a long time ago that they don’t hand over their own people.
    5. +12
      28 March 2024 12: 28
      The answer to this was given long ago in one Soviet film - this is the leg of someone who needs a leg.
    6. +2
      28 March 2024 14: 46
      Nothing surprising. Nothing personal. Only business. And the entire leadership knows this.
    7. 0
      28 March 2024 20: 50
      “WHY” - probably because it’s yours. what
  6. +14
    28 March 2024 04: 49
    A bit optimistic.
    Unnecessary.
    All victories and failures are yet to come.
    Starting from the import substitution of the superjet and MS21 to the salary in rural clubs - the work is not done and is moving on.... 24...26...soon they will announce with a smile about.... 28(?).life goes on.
    But the meaning has increased
    1. +1
      28 March 2024 17: 05
      People understand and do it. Ah, the show continues. It will be another 6 years.
  7. +23
    28 March 2024 05: 20
    It was Beslan, they wrote, we woke up in another country, house explosions in Moscow and St. Petersburg, Nord-Ost, they write again, we woke up in another country, now Crocus and again we woke up in another country. Somehow I wanted to go to bed and get up in the same the same country, and not every year in a different one.
    1. +25
      28 March 2024 06: 03
      With such an immigration policy, we really will soon wake up in a completely different country.
      1. +11
        28 March 2024 06: 11
        With this immigration policy
        Yes, not only with her..
    2. +10
      28 March 2024 08: 05
      wrote, we woke up in another country

      In another country we woke up in 1991... And since then we have been wandering to God knows where

      They told me that this road would lead me to the ocean of death,
      And I turned back halfway.
      Since then, crooked, deaf, roundabout paths have been stretching before me...


      Literal translation:

      Since I, cowardly and aware of my own benefit, having been taught that if I walked straight this way, I would enter (fall) into the sea of ​​death, I turned back halfway, only forks and detours stretch before me.
    3. +11
      28 March 2024 09: 49
      .Somehow I wanted to go to bed and get up in the same country,

      Different countries but the same President laughing
    4. man
      +5
      28 March 2024 09: 52
      Somehow I wanted to go to bed and wake up in the same country, and not in different ones every year.
      It depends on who. If it were possible to go to bed and wake up in the USSR, I would not get out of bed...
  8. +11
    28 March 2024 06: 55
    “History is divided into before and after” or “Russians woke up in another country”


    I think it's true.
    I can imagine how the huge gears of State Power begin to spin up their movement. It is not yet clear in which direction.

    What worries me most is: what consequences will Russian citizens observe after this terrorist attack?
    “The security forces have their hands completely untied.”
    The President has the highest level of trust after the Elections.

    The big question is how will it be used? In whose favor?

    Considering that there are two antagonistic classes in the country, which class will be strengthened and which will be weakened?
    1. +15
      28 March 2024 09: 05
      *The President has the highest level of trust after the Election*.
      I believe in the honesty of the President
      And into the integrity of the guards,
      In the care of the bank about customers ...
      I believe in mermaids, in brownies.

      I believe in lowering prices
      What a country is developing
      What will not change me with a neighbor
      My beloved wife.

      Fortuneteller I believe that on the cards
      For the money will guess me
      That soon I will live richly
      And I will be doubly happy.

      I believe a teacher at school
      I don’t want to take a bribe at all,
      That he is children of his own free will
      On conscience will teach.

      I believe the insurance office
      In which the clerks say
      What if grief happens
      All losses will be compensated to me.

      Of course I believe the deputies
      And to all politicians, yeah,
      Premiere and his guys,
      Country stripping naked.

      I believe that all injections
      And those pills that give
      Only tempered willpower
      And only benefit.

      I truly believe these people
      That settled me here
      That only with them I will be happy.
      As where??? In ward No. 6. )))
      1. +1
        28 March 2024 12: 50
        Oh, yes, this is a whole poem, and before that I only knew the first quatrain. Thank you, I must save it. tongue
      2. man
        0
        28 March 2024 16: 41
        I am sure that over the past 12 years your faith has only strengthened! smile
    2. +4
      28 March 2024 09: 45
      So we will see what our government is worth, how it will react, what systemic measures it will take.
      1. +13
        28 March 2024 09: 52
        In the morning I smear a sandwich -
        Immediately thought: what about the people?
        And the caviar does not climb into the throat,
        And compote does not pour into your mouth!

        I will stand at the window at night.
        And stand all night without sleep
        All worried about Rasee,
        How is it, poor, is she?
      2. +1
        28 March 2024 14: 39
        So we will see what our government is worth, how it will react, what systemic measures it will take.
        But this is the most important thing! Who benefits? If within six months or a year our government adopts any laws restricting the rights of indigenous (not immigrant) Russians, it will become clear who benefited from this terrorist attack. So we'll see...
      3. man
        +1
        28 March 2024 16: 43
        Quote: Yuri Vasiliev
        So we will see what our government is worth, how it will react, what systemic measures it will take.

        Just don't look through your eyes
  9. +21
    28 March 2024 07: 14
    As long as there are structures parallel to the state in the form of ethnic organized crime groups called diaspora, the threat to the safety of citizens, and therefore the terrorist threat, will persist. And the activities of the FMS require close monitoring by the FSB.
    1. +13
      28 March 2024 08: 10
      "And the activity FMS belay needs close monitoring by the FSB." - The FMS has been liquidated for about 7 years.
      1. +10
        28 March 2024 08: 53
        Yes, it’s my fault, the Ministry of Internal Affairs is now in charge of distributing passports to “valuable specialists.”
        1. -2
          28 March 2024 09: 02
          “Yes, it’s my fault, the Ministry of Internal Affairs is now in charge of distributing passports to “valuable specialists”.” - but before that they waved their saber vigorously.
          "ethnic organized crime groups called diaspora, a threat to the safety of citizens, and therefore the terrorist threat will persist."
          Should you at least look at the statistics - last year more than 360 part on terrorism. And for some reason there are no Tajiks there.....
          1. +6
            28 March 2024 09: 45
            AND? Are you saying that the abstract structure - Diaspora - has nothing to do with it? I don’t hear about the DPRK Diaspora, the American Diaspora, the Italian Diaspora.
          2. +7
            28 March 2024 10: 24
            If you carefully read my messages, you would have noticed that no nationality is mentioned in them. We are talking about diasporas as a breeding ground for terrorism.
            1. -2
              28 March 2024 10: 41
              "We are talking about diasporas as a breeding ground for terrorism" - what DIASPORA was a breeding ground for 360 terrorists last year - if there are all kinds? Or at Russian of those 360 ​​terrorists from last year there are own Diaspora? What if no- then how can “the diaspora be a breeding ground”?!!
        2. man
          0
          28 March 2024 16: 49
          Quote: Slon_on
          Yes, it’s my fault, the Ministry of Internal Affairs is now in charge of distributing passports to “valuable specialists.”

          Maybe we can get the UN involved right away? And what, also a three-letter word...
          And the result will be... also a three-letter word, but different
  10. +9
    28 March 2024 07: 19
    In a class society, a moratorium on the death penalty does not exclude the possibility of reprisals by superiors against inferiors. There is no execution, but it exists. Don't worry.

    And if you allow “for everyone,” then what will happen?
    First, the laws need to work, and only then everything else.
  11. +19
    28 March 2024 07: 33
    Look how loyal the attitude of Russians towards the natives of Tajikistan remained after Crocus. One of the goals of terrorism is to incite ethnic hatred or simply the massacre of unwanted people. To do this means to stand on the same level as the murderers and allow the terrorists to get their way.

    I don't entirely agree with this statement.
    The massacre, of course, is not necessary, but it is imperative to send the migrants home.
  12. +17
    28 March 2024 08: 27
    Quote from Msi
    At first, banks, one after another, began to compensate loans and mortgages to the families who suffered and died.

    All right
    But something else was a little upsetting. I go to VTB online, and there... Raising funds for the victims. Why didn’t they collect money for my fellow countrymen, the victims and the families of the dead Belgorod residents, the same VTB, I wonder...?

    Yes, everyone switched to Crocus City.
    But here, every day, civilians die from Bandera’s shells. And this has already become commonplace. Even on social networks, under obituaries, they no longer leave comments. People just figuratively pass by.
    Personally, it’s not clear to me at all. We are going through a real war. But in one place people are trembling with fear, hiding from Ukrainian shelling. And in another place people are going to idle concerts. And here the complaints are not about people going to the concert. But about others who are higher. But you can’t sit on two chairs at the same time... saying that there is no war and at the same time saying that there is one.
  13. +17
    28 March 2024 08: 36
    in the first days I thought, well, finally the authorities will rush to solve the problem with migrants, they will raise the issue of the death penalty, etc. But days have passed and more and more often the authorities are beginning to make useless speeches about the consolidation of the people, the inadmissibility of interethnic confrontation, etc., etc. Again blah blah blah. And about the death penalty they begin to look askance at each other. Everything is clear, we ordinary Russians have again been made to understand that no one needs you. The President is talking around the bush, as always. The problem with migrants will not be changed, we will live in villages like at home..
    1. +9
      28 March 2024 10: 19
      Quote from: miry_mir
      The problem with migrants will not change, we will live in villages like at home.

      Yes it is. This was clear to me from the very beginning. As long as these “valuable specialists” do not pose any threat to the authorities, nothing, absolutely nothing will change in the migration system. The death penalty is complete nonsense, in the context of this issue. They didn't care about your horror stories. They were not going to bear any responsibility at all, due to their unicellularity. It’s ridiculous to talk about suicide bombers who have not disappeared anywhere as a phenomenon. The issue of lifting the moratorium on the death penalty is nothing more than a whistle through which to let off steam. But the issue of uncontrolled migration, quite obviously, no one will solve. Alas.
  14. +9
    28 March 2024 09: 00
    I’m sitting and looking at two parallel topics being discussed:
    The first discusses the rapid Islamization of Russia, how migrants put customs and laws on the table, how they rob and kill with impunity, getting off with suspended sentences, or even not bearing responsibility at all, you read about diasporas, and so on. You come to the second topic - a discussion of the terrorist attack in Crocus and complete confidence in the order from the CIA/MI6, and people do not see any connection with the first point at all.
    And as for learning from your mistakes: using the example of Crocus, in which more people burned and suffocated than died from the shooting video, that the correct conclusions from “Winter Cherry” and “Lame Horse” were made and fire safety began to be monitored more carefully (no )
    1. +8
      28 March 2024 09: 41
      that the correct conclusions from “Winter Cherry” and “Lame Horse” were drawn and fire safety began to be monitored more carefully (no)
      This along the way becomes a tradition, a staple.
  15. +7
    28 March 2024 09: 08
    Alas, terrorist attacks have occurred, are occurring, and will continue to occur in Russia. Now all attention - intentionally or accidentally - has been transferred to the Tajiks and Ukraine. However, I would like to talk about two things - about Telegram and about the fire.

    1. Telegram cannot be viewed by our services, since the channel is protected. There was a lawsuit with Durov, but he fought back; they couldn’t even block Telegram. I think this is a flaw of our authorities - communication channels accessible to criminals and not accessible to the authorities. I think this situation is intolerable in modern conditions - uncontrolled communication channels should either be monitored or banned. We will survive without Telegrams.

    2. There are several times more deaths from fire than deaths from gunshots. In this sense, the situation is no different from Winter Cherry at all. This is a failure of the authorities. I understand that the owner is most likely one of the untouchables, but this does not honor our authorities.

    I think these issues are extremely important - yesterday we were undermined by the Chechens, today by the Tajiks, I don’t know who will do this tomorrow, but Telegram and the fire danger remain, it is quite possible to eliminate them.
    1. -1
      28 March 2024 09: 55
      The Tajiks still remain with the seeds
  16. 0
    28 March 2024 09: 16
    ...a long life ahead somewhere in the Russian Arctic

    Yeah, like Raduev, Atgeriev, Alikhadzhiev, Islamov or, God forgive me, Navalny...
  17. 0
    28 March 2024 09: 18
    No optimism.
    People go for... pleasure. They themselves do not see the danger, they are not warned about the danger - the profits of the crocus capitalists are more important. There is no war - this is not a universal deception? A ticket to a concert ranges from 2 to 20 thousand rubles. Would you like to know how much the youth spent on SVO?
    4 attackers and 6000 - with isolated cases of active resistance - the general type of behavior is flight. At the beginning of the North Military District of the “five hundredths” there were many times more volunteers, and mostly there was flight. This is the triumph of Article 2 of the constitution, which established the priority of the particular over the general.
    1. +3
      28 March 2024 09: 54
      Yes, it is surprising that unarmed people did not attack armed terrorists. Cowards, what to take from them. /s
    2. +6
      28 March 2024 10: 02
      Quote: Alexander Ra
      4 attackers and 6000 - with isolated cases of active resistance - the general type of behavior is flight.

      wassat
      Those. Is it suggested to attack an animal with an AK with bare hands? Have you seen enough Hollywood action films or what? Even the guards didn't have weapons there. What are you even fantasizing about here?
      1. -1
        28 March 2024 10: 18
        Be careful when reading:
        4 attackers and 6000 - with isolated cases of active resistance - the general type of behavior is flight.
        - it is a fact. Where did you find the fantasy?
        1. +4
          28 March 2024 10: 35
          Quote: Alexander Ra
          Where did you find the fantasy?

          It’s a fantasy that unarmed, disorganized, unprepared, and even prepared, people can somehow defeat three machine gunners, even if there are 10 or 000 of them. fool
          And about that “hero” who allegedly knocked out one of the terrorists, but wished to remain anonymous, I somehow very, very doubt the reality of this character. The other three terrorists were probably chewing popcorn at that time.
          The naivety is simply amazing. And your whole message tends to blame the victims themselves. negative
          1. 0
            28 March 2024 10: 53
            No, we are in no way to blame for the fact that we were privatized, marginalized, optimized, that we have been floating with the flow for decades, that we are, as you put it, “disorganized, not prepared."
            1. +2
              28 March 2024 11: 08
              Quote: Alexander Ra
              No, we are in no way to blame for the fact that

              What we are definitely not to blame for is that someone Ramboized you. wassat
  18. +8
    28 March 2024 09: 23
    Whatever one may say, this is a failure of the state and it must react (to prevent consequences and strengthen security, but the customer is unlikely to be identified). the purpose of this event is to cast a shadow on the authorities + create an internal interfaith conflict. Who organized this? - not IG at all, - a fairly powerful special service. In any case, there were individual performers, the Tajiks are just canned food. Why were they sent to Bryansk - to cast a shadow on Ukraine, the question is why (either on purpose or on purpose)? At the moment there are more questions, I doubt that much will be made public, most likely everything will be pinned on 4 collective farmers whose iq is good if it’s enough to buy food in five.
  19. +10
    28 March 2024 09: 24
    Together we will truly cope with all the challenges and let the Crocus City Hall tragedy be the last, and only victories remain ahead.
    So lively, about the dead... The ending is missing: “So let’s drink so that our desires coincide with our capabilities.” (c)
  20. +12
    28 March 2024 09: 50
    It’s all good that most people have not lost empathy.
    But the next bleating of the guarantor simply causes shock! His statements are alarming: Russia for the Russians... Yes, there have been no such slogans for a long time, unless among the neo-fascists, of whom there are almost none left among us. They even talk about Russia in whispers for Russian citizens, but he is worried there. Doesn't he worry about the massive importation of radical Islamists? Demonstrative prayers in the subway, buses, and on the streets don’t bother him? Don’t you worry about the total crime from these friendly foreigners? Closed MMA clubs for THEM, don't they bother him?
    Isn't this an outright betrayal of the country and its people?
    1. -2
      28 March 2024 22: 06
      Doesn't he worry about the massive importation of radical Islamists? Demonstrative prayers in the subway, buses, and on the streets don’t bother him? Don’t you worry about the total crime from these friendly foreigners? Closed MMA clubs are for THEM, they don’t bother him

      Multiculturalism and the digital concentration camp are a “new religion” (ideology) for “dear Russians”, they don’t deserve anything else, sorry....
      1. 0
        29 March 2024 06: 52

        we don't deserve anything else, sorry...

        Well, yes, they only scored 87. We needed 146.
  21. +4
    28 March 2024 09: 54
    I just can’t wrap my head around it, even if these animals are given the maximum sentence, 20 years, they will be released at 40-50 years old! They shouldn't see the light anymore, they shouldn't...
    1. +1
      28 March 2024 10: 47
      Quote: Esaul
      I just can’t wrap my head around it, even if these animals are given the maximum sentence, 20 years, they will be released at 40-50 years old!

      What nonsense!!! Stop sketching already! According to Article 205, for ANY part, even for recruitment, they can give you life imprisonment. 20-25 years is an ALTERNATIVE type of punishment under this article.
      To persons who have committed crimes provided for in Articles 205, 205.1, 205.3, 205.4, 205.5, part four of Article 206, part four of Article 211, articles 357, 361 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation, as well as those who have committed crimes related to the implementation of terrorist activities, provided for in Article 277 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation after May 5, 2014, statutes of limitations do not apply and they can be sentenced to life imprisonment at any time after the commission of the crime.

      No one will give them 20 years. They will come to Ch. Dolphin for life. The question is how long they will live there.
      1. +4
        28 March 2024 12: 34
        Are you so sure of “the most humane court in the world”?
      2. +3
        28 March 2024 15: 30
        The question is how long they will live there.
        If they exceed the plan for sewing slippers, participate in amateur performances like Ulyukaev, they will survive... That really came out urgently, in connection with the above.
    2. man
      +1
      28 March 2024 17: 03
      Quote: Esaul
      I just can’t wrap my head around it, even if these animals are given the maximum sentence, 20 years, they will be released at 40-50 years old!

      Don't worry, in 20 years they might be deported
  22. +3
    28 March 2024 10: 14
    Regarding the treatment of terrorists.
    Four were arrested in the Bryansk region. Recently the news reported that 11 people had already been arrested. My opinion is that they were “stabbed”, and quickly, based on the information received, the rest were arrested.
    About donation - funny. I am an honorary donor, and I know what is there and how. At best, these 2 tons of blood donated will be recycled; it is dangerous to give it to patients.
    Does he think I'm wrong? Everyone can see this for themselves, even starting tomorrow. Go to the blood transfusion station (blood transfusion station) and declare that “I want to become a donor.” Let's see where and how far they will send you. And they will send you on a race to the doctors, with a stop at the SES. I don’t know how it is now, but in the 90s, living at the same address with a patient with tuberculosis and jaundice (Botkin’s disease, also known as hepatitis) could become grounds for disqualification.
    Next, donated blood? Well done, now we’ll put her in quarantine. The reason is the presence of a “gray window”, when you are already sick, but the disease is not determined by tests. My career as a donor ended with two withdrawals in a row, they said that the third time you don’t have to come. The final touch is a call from the SPK, “We have your blood stuck in quarantine, could you come and get tested.” I went and donated blood from a vein.
    Difficult? Yes! But do you want some kind of infection to be brought to you along with donor blood (or its preparations)?
    1. +5
      28 March 2024 10: 53
      Quote: Not the fighter
      About donation - funny. I am an honorary donor, and I know what is there and how. At best, these 2 tons of blood donated will be recycled; it is dangerous to give it to patients.
      Does he think I'm wrong? Everyone can see this for themselves, even starting tomorrow. Go to the blood transfusion station (blood transfusion station) and declare that “I want to become a donor.” Let's see where and how far they will send you. And they will send you on a race to the doctors, with a stop at the SES. I don't know how it is now

      Well, if you don’t know how it is now, then there’s no need to tell you.
      Now ALL donor blood is processed, there are practically no direct transfusions, maybe only in emergency cases.
      No certificates are required from anyone. I came from the street, filled out a form, took an express finger test, for group and rhesus, in some places they also do ALT and liver AST right away. You go through a therapist and get clearance. You go and hand over 450 ml, of which 50 are taken for testing, the rest is recycled.
  23. -3
    28 March 2024 10: 41
    Only by uniting can we overcome any adversity and trials, we must have a zero tolerance level for mocking the pain and suffering of those affected by any terrorist attack. Then we will remain people
  24. +9
    28 March 2024 11: 28
    The obvious desire of the authorities to shield the owners of Crocus, who clearly built this complex with huge and flagrant violations, which caused the death of many people, is also puzzling. There is no evidence that the fire alarm went off. They even claim that the building was not accepted for use. Who allowed it to be used for public events? Therefore, the individual entrepreneur has not initiated a criminal case for violation of fire safety rules, which resulted in the death of people, and for the provision of services of inadequate quality?
  25. +6
    28 March 2024 11: 53
    Time will pass and Crocus' pain will subside, but it will remain in history, and there will be new adversities. Ask 20-year-olds what they know about the events of 1991, about those killed, or about Beslan, Dubrovka, and you will find out that some know nothing at all. The events in Crocus are a continuation, and began in 1991.
  26. +6
    28 March 2024 12: 00
    IMHO, everyone understands everything.
    there's just nothing that can be done.
    because This does not concern the authorities.

    The number of people killed by bullets, I write, is 2 times less than those killed by corruption...
  27. +9
    28 March 2024 12: 10
    The sacramental phrase: “Guys! Let’s live together!” can and should be said by a real Society, and not by an atomized poor and impoverished modern population. Because, a real Society of Citizens, CAN AND IS ABLE to ask very seriously from any government regime, from any REAL self-government, from any ethnic diasporas and mafias for all the chaos and lawlessness that has been happening in our country for the last 30 years. But there is no Society today, although there are people who could potentially become a Society. And this inspires optimism. In the meantime, for the ordinary, ordinary population, there is only a “lethargic” sleep “under the blanket” of the regime’s propaganda and primitive survival, within the framework of their salary. In general, a huge “squirrel cage” called Russia spins in one place and on, earning multi-billion dollar fortunes for its creators, without moving anywhere along the road of History.

    PS The salvation of the Papuans is the work of the Papuans themselves.
  28. +7
    28 March 2024 12: 26
    Another pacification of the crowd with a bunch of words, where the only acceptable phrase for it, “death penalty,” is explicitly rejected as an impossible desire. Authors with such spells should speak to victims of terrorist attacks in order to understand the simple truth: mantras about expectation and hope for non-humans do not contribute to the extermination of recurring facts of terror, but only stimulate their repetition with increasingly terrifying consequences. Terrorists should fear society, not the other way around!!! To do this, our answer must terrify their potential followers.
  29. +7
    28 March 2024 13: 41
    Quote: Dutchman Michel
    Why was there no march of consent in Moscow?

    And therefore, my dear, that unlike France, in our country you can get a REAL prison sentence for participating in such a “march”. Mr. Girkin will not let you lie.
    1. +7
      28 March 2024 15: 35
      here you can earn money for participating in such a “march”
      They will gather the right people for the march, but what if the wrong people join it and suddenly they will begin to pump up their rights, like, down with this migration policy... If something doesn’t work out, that’s why they won’t gather. Yes, in addition.
    2. 0
      30 March 2024 19: 28
      Quote: KSVK
      Quote: Dutchman Michel
      Why was there no march of consent in Moscow?

      And therefore, my dear, that unlike France, in our country you can get a REAL prison sentence for participating in such a “march”. Mr. Girkin will not let you lie.

      According to the philosopher A. Zinoviev, the West considers all Russians to be “genetic communists.” Zinovievsky-Trotskyist nonsense. We chewed up and spat out your darkness, like a secular version of the Bible with its Old Testament. We chewed up and spat out your “cultural cooperation.” Those who need it in the West know that the Russian world is genetic Bolsheviks. For which they have been sentenced without exception... for 2000 years now. And, yes: scratch a Russian and you will find a Tatar. Charlie, in support of whose provocation they drove stupid French people onto the streets, insulted the shrines of Islam. These “marches” may still be poured out to the French if the Caliphate installation is activated in Europe. There are plenty of Middle Eastern bearded men and weapons there too.
  30. +3
    28 March 2024 16: 38
    About violation of fire safety rules. Let’s remember the well-known call of Russian liberals that “... there is no need to make business a nightmare...”. At the same time, we were always told a sob story that when opening any business, a fireman comes and gives out a whole list of fire safety requirements. And I remember that loud promises were even made to create a new business for several years. So what now? Now businessmen open restaurants and line the walls with flammable materials and do not make fire exits. Now in the huge Crocus City Hall shopping center, when there is an open fire and smoke, water does not pour from the ceiling, the fire alarm siren does not sound, and the fire exit doors do not open automatically and people simply suffocate on the stairs. And this despite the fact that Crocus City Hall was built using new technologies and is practically a new building. Will the owners of Crocus City be punished for lack of fire safety or will everyone be forgiven?
    1. +2
      28 March 2024 18: 12
      It turns out that a business cannot thrive where there are checks and where there is control, by the way, in stores they constantly ask “do you need a cash receipt?”, businesses are happy not to even issue a receipt
      1. +2
        29 March 2024 18: 31
        - “in stores they constantly ask, “Do you need a cash receipt?”, businesses are happy not to even issue a receipt.”
        This is purely to save cash register tape. All data about the sale goes to the server and is sent to the tax office...
    2. +4
      29 March 2024 00: 49
      It’s hard to believe that during the construction of Crocus for $70 million, they saved on a fire alarm system costing $300-400 thousand. It’s more likely to believe that someone turned it off intentionally. It’s also hard to believe that 4 Tajiks with 2 backpacks set fire to a huge building in 5 minutes. This is not a grill with coal. There are more than a lot of questions.
  31. Ray
    +2
    28 March 2024 18: 05
    Two things really confuse me.
    1. The terrorist attack was carried out by professionals. Quickly, clearly, calmly. Where did these Tajiks get such training and experience?
    And why didn't they think of an escape route? We drove in an old car that was lit up all the way to the Bryansk region. Are migrant workers, ready to so callously take lives for some ridiculous 500 thousand, really ready to act so harmoniously and professionally? Hey, these are migrant workers. Or even homeless people, if we are talking about such a sum.
    2. Video from their phone. They have already shown us their face and voice, they have shown us how they tear off their ear. But in the video, their faces are blurred out and their voices are changed. For what? I don't understand. But without any censorship, it is shown how one of them cuts the throat of a living wounded person. It wasn't covered up in any way.
    P.S. I am not a supporter of Masonic conspiracy theories and so on. But on the Internet I came across interesting articles linking the most notorious terrorist attacks and disasters (Lame Horse, Winter Cherry, Crocus) to Jewish holidays. My head is spinning, basically.
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  32. -1
    28 March 2024 20: 54
    Quote from Ray
    Two things really confuse me.

    This confuses you because you are not getting information from other sources. Three Tajiks from this group went to training camps in Turkey and the Turkish special services, after the FSB appeal, have already destroyed these training camps. And they didn’t think through the escape route because, according to their masters’ plans, they were supposed to die during the terrorist attack. These were one-off action films.
    1. 0
      28 March 2024 21: 58
      and the Turkish special services, after an appeal from the FSB, have already destroyed these training camps.


      We will “undoubtedly believe” this news
      1. +1
        28 March 2024 22: 06
        and who are YOU? Regulars of the Kyiv nightclub "Blue Moon"?
    2. Ray
      0
      28 March 2024 22: 54
      What are the training camps in Turkey? What are you about??? I work as a supply worker in Turkey on a Rosatom project, I speak Turkish, I communicate with Turks, I can read Turkish news. Why haven't I heard anything about this?
  33. +2
    29 March 2024 00: 15
    Quote from Ray
    I can read Turkish news. Why haven't I heard anything about this?

    Why haven't you heard about this? There are two options. 1Everyone hears what he wants. 2. You are reading the wrong newspapers. Pysy. There are even materials about this on VO. And if you haven’t been banned from Google, then this is written there too.

    https://topwar.ru/239034-voenkory-napavshih-na-krokus-siti-holl-boevikov-dva-mesjaca-gotovili-v-stambule.html
  34. Des
    +3
    29 March 2024 07: 36
    Article by the author. This is +. At VO.
    From, mind you, the author's article: "Look how loyal the attitude of Russians towards the natives of Tajikistan remained after Crocus. One of the goals of terrorism is to incite ethnic hatred or simply the massacre of unwanted people. To do this means to stand on the same level as the murderers and allow the terrorists to get their way.

    It is enough to imagine the consequences if this happened, for example, in the United States. How many would yesterday's slave owners have already lynched?

    The events at Crocus City Hall became, albeit sad, a marker of the revival of Russian society. As well as a symbol of further alienation from the phenomenon that we call “Ukrainian neo-Nazism.”
    "
    Russians did not have a loyal attitude towards people who spit on them.
    Our government is “loyal” for now.
    1. +1
      29 March 2024 10: 31
      Russians did not have a loyal attitude towards people who spit on them

      Well, I don’t know... in big cities “Russians” are accustomed to valuable specialists and make full use of their services (couriers, hairdressers, repairs, etc.) - reminds a little of the story of the fall of the Byzantine Empire...
      1. Des
        +1
        29 March 2024 11: 50
        Quote: Vladimir80
        Well, I don’t know... in big cities “Russians” are accustomed to valuable specialists and make full use of their services (couriers, hairdressers, repairs, etc.)

        of course. But this does not contradict the fact that under certain circumstances they (“specialists”) will follow the instructions of ideas closer to them, which are destructive for Russians.
  35. AB
    +2
    29 March 2024 14: 47
    “History is divided into before and after” or “Russians woke up in another country”

    Quite a long time ago there was news about how the inhabitants of one village defended themselves from bandits. At the same time, they warned the police in advance, long before the attack, that there would be an attack and they did nothing. I don't remember the details anymore. That’s when I personally woke up in another country. Somewhere nearby, perhaps, there was a case when a crowd of people of non-Russian nationality demanded that a servant of the law be handed over to them for execution!...

    Regarding the humanity of treatment and retribution: the animal in me screams demanding that the perpetrators be boiled in boiling oil. The rational part, the larger one, understands that due to some misunderstanding, these creatures, who are considered people, have rights that, like it or not, must be observed. After all, there is a law. Yes, the one that looks like a drawbar, but at least some kind. Law is one of the few abstractions that define us as people, separating us from the world of animals who have only the law of the jungle. If we forget about the law and apply it when we want or when it is profitable, then it will be like in Mukhtar where “today they forgot the dog, and tomorrow they forgot the man,” that is, today a criminal was deprived of human rights, and tomorrow a man who does something that will be in the hands of the authorities unwanted (For example, we recall the not-so-long-ago news about scandals in mental hospitals, where the unwanted were admitted and there they lay chained to their beds, stoned, for months).
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    31 March 2024 23: 34
    As if this “afterword” did not turn out to be a “preface” to something similar (if not more tragic) that happened at Crocus. Such animals with a minimum of convolutions in their brains, like detained terrorists, are now a dime a dozen in the Russian migrant environment. And this means that with due diligence of the relevant “directors”, “Crocus”, and “Dubrovka” and something else worse, which one would not even want to think about, are not excluded for an encore.
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    April 12 2024 19: 54
    Putin ordered the terrorist attack, it was carried out by Tajiks, and the Ukrainians are to blame